Christianity General! Come And Find Inner Peace, Edition

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Often in these threads, anons post concerns about whether or not they're "Good Enough" to be a Christian, they see the opportunity to have a meaningful relationship with God almighty, they see the comfy church life and fellowship, and they think to themselves:


"I'm not worthy of that, I'm just a/an ____________. They wouldnt like or want me, I do/ did____________!"

Well dont worry my friends, none of us are perfect. We all have our demons yet god loves us anyway.

Consider this passage:

"As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector’s booth. “Follow me,” he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him. While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples. When the (((Pharisees))) saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and sinners?”
On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’[a] For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” -Matthew Chapter 9

We dont claim to be perfect, we're just normal people and I want to make this claim to everyone out there; if you're interested in learning about God, or the church at all, feel free to stop by. I've been through churches of many denominations yet they all have something in common.

There are ALWAYS welcoming people there who will be happy to show you around, talk with you, and usually offer you some literature about the church/denomination. You're welcome anytime.

This is something which is great about the Christian faith, we dont claim to be perfect. One of the prayers offered every week at my church begins "I believe, O Lord, and I confess that Thou art truly the Christ the son of the living God who camest into the world to save sinners, of whom I am first. Therefore I pray
thee, have mercy upon me and forgive my transgressions..."

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Here, have an amazing Byzantine chant, performed in English. Its beauty is something to behold:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SNIuHcg_zA&list=PLEfGEO6EGurB8bDrUZTWoeCdUkPuzBt6A

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For those lurking, here's a link to a free online bible PDF for you to read if you're interested. I personally recommend starting in the book of Matthew (first book of the new testament)

http://www.worldhistory.biz/download567/The_Orthodox_Study_Bible_-_St.pdf

Alternatively if you would like a hard copy, I've been quite pleased with this one thats cheap (~$9!) on Amazon. Its the NIV bible edition, so its written in modern english - unlike the KJV which is like reading shakespere. I feel that the KJV is best for in depth study, but the NIV is MUCH easier to comprehend if you're reading it for the first time:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310411009/
ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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/pol/ MADE ME A (born-again) CHRISTIAN!

What denominations do we have, representing tonight?

How do you worship something that you can't prove exists?

STOP. WHY THESE PIOUS CHRISTIANS LOOK LIKE TERRORISTS???

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>>133894237
I dont know why you retards continue to think this is >>>/x/. Are you btain damaged.

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>>133896331
You mean like white supremacy?

>>133896331
>what's faith?????????????????????????????????????????????
Guess we've been beat

>>133895138
>I personally recommend starting in the book of Matthew
That's fucking stupid. Why would you tell someone to start in the middle of a book? Why even have the front?

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>>133896606
Every race has their advantages. That is what a National Socialist believes.

I was waiting for explosion during this video. Wnene will he explode himself??

>>133896732
I don't understand faith.

Excellent, I've been looking for a LARP thread and EVERY FUCKING TIME I ASK THIS NO ONE GIVES ME A GODDAMN ANSWER.

It appears that a growing trend within Orthodox circles, both in America and abroad, is the desire to move away from "Ethnic Churches", folk beliefs/practices, and mythology and instead to embrace a theologically and ideologically Protestant demeanor. My question is, are there any Orthodox (Or Catholic) theologians who explicitly say the opposite, endorsing folk beliefs/practices, mythology, and ethnic churches?

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>>133896331
I let based Yuri field that one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ch-A1aqddg

But, I'll add to it - I believe because I've felt the presence of the holy spirit around me as I pray, and in Church. Since I've joined the church and began to pray, I'm calmer, happier, more thankful for the things (material and immaterial) that I have, than I've ever been. I've ended an almost decade long family rift with the grace of god, and began to study the saints, and read stories like pic related. Tell me, can you read the bible, even make an attempt at comprehending it, join a church family, scratch the surface of studying a 2,000+ year culture which produced some of the most beautiful art, architecture, scientific and industrial acheivements in the history of the world and say to yourself "No, this is all fake. All of it".

Aside from that - there is also this passage in the bible, which explains why you dont simply see god like you see physical things on this earth:

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>>133897286
2/2:

Luke 4

Jesus Is Tested in the Wilderness
4 Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, left the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, 2 where for forty days he was tempted[a] by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry.

3 The devil said to him, “If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread.”

4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone.’[b]”

5 The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6 And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7 If you worship me, it will all be yours.”

8 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’[c]”

9 The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down from here. 10 For it is written:

“‘He will command his angels concerning you
to guard you carefully;
11 they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’[d]”
12 Jesus answered, “It is said: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’

>>133897286
Feeling a presence is a natural thing. It's like when you're feeling like someone is watching you from behind. All of it is in your brain.

>>133896898
It's belief in a concept without absolute proof thereof.
You BELIEVE that someone loves you, but you KNOW that you just fucked them

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My close Finnish and Russian heritage is calling me and I've decided to convert to Eastern Orthodoxy.

What should I know in advance? (Prayer, life style related jazz etc.) So I don't go in there completely blind, can never hurt to be prepared.

>>133898146
where is the fucking in this analogy?

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>>133896412
I'm not sure what you mean by this?

>>133896473
Anon, why would you come into a thread, and start ranting about how 1/3 of the world's population is evidently "brain damaged"? If you have questions about Christianity or want to discuss things, we're here for you, we want to help you find the lord, and the love of god. I'll pray for you.

>>133896734
Because that is when Jesus enters the scene, and from then on in the bible is of most relevance to Christians living in the last ~2,000 years.

I dont recommend skipping the Old Testament (Everything before the book of Matthew), but the New Testament would, in my opinion, be of greater benefit to a person with an interest in the faith, to read first.

>>133897147
I dont know anything about this trend of which you speak, nor do I claim to be an expert on theology. I hope that you find what you're looking for, here, my friend.

>>133897953
Its real, anon. Tell me, have you ever tried to find the presence of god? Perhaps we could help you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK3XjJQwnuQ&t=333s

>>133898370
Good for you, my brother :) To be honest - as one of the OCA (Orthodox Church of America) writers put it, "You can read a book about how to swim all that you want, but sooner or later, you're gonna have to get in the water"

I can tell you my story - I always had a slight interest in Orthodox Christianity (the artwork and the music), for as long as I can remember. This is what lead me into Orthodoxy threads here on /pol/ last fall, and honestly I've never really been one whose big on studying things before I do them - so as such, I did read a little bit here and there, but I just said "Screw it, lets do it", google'd Orthodox Churches in my city, and just randomly showed up at one, one morning.

It was great. They had greeters there who welcomed me in and talked to me. They gave me free literature which they had, and even a tour of the church before the service started.

>>133898370
>>133898869


2/2

After the service, they have a lunch hour where I got to talk to many folks in the church. They answered my questions and told me their stories, and even recommended a variety of reading material and websites to study. Two in particular which I hope will help you, is the "Beginning To Pray" book, and the Aincent Faith radio show, which you can listen to for free online.

TL;DR - Truly I recommend just showing up to your local Orthodox church. The people there will be happy to guide you, and help you. I'll pray that your journey will go well, and to help you find what you're seeking. I give you my best.

God bless this thread.

>>133899118
Thank you, stranger. I'll check out the book and the show first thing I do when I wake up.

God bless you.

Catholic here, does anyone have any good resources for apologetics?
I recently re-joined the faith, and I want to bring back those I've taken way from God.

How do you guys make it through the OT? I've read the entire NT and somewhere over half of the OT, but I lost my place and stopped for a long time. I know that it is still important and relevant for Christians, but it just feels so much less impactful than the NT does. It embarasses me as an adult who has been Christian all his life that I haven't finished reading the Bible, but reading about how the Israelites abandoned God and got smited for the 6 gorillionth time gets old.

>>133896734
I could've sworn the Old Testament is moot because Jesus came to earth and now we don't need it?

>>133899442
I read Christian Apologetics by Norman Geisler when I was younger and thought it was really good. It takes a very systematic approach to dismantling competing worldviews and proving the Christian worldview. I also remember liking Scaling the Secular City by J. P. Moreland, though I confess I can't really remember much of the content.

The writings of C. S. Lewis are very helpful too, and written much more plainly than rigorous philosophical apologetics. Mere Christianity is a classic.

>>133899922
Not quite. The Old Covenant and Levitical law were made obsolete by Christ, but the moral commandments of the Old Testament and the history it contains are still important. For one, the Old Testament gives us all the old prophecies concerning the Messiah, proving that Jesus is indeed who he claimed to be. The Old Testament also gives us examples of both God's wrath and mercy, and greater insight into his character. There is also much wisdom to be gleaned across the whole of the OT, like in Psalms or Proverbs.

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>>133896898

CHRIST IS RISEN!

>>133901358
Sweet, does that mean you'll answer >>133897147 ?

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The Church is the only thing that will stop the Synagogue of Satan.

>>133901968
God bless you.

Where do I find a girl like Christ-chan?

I tried Christian fellowship with my peers, and they spend the entire time on their phones, not discussing scripture, and blogging about their social lives. I never went back.

>>133901968
>Began to adopt heretical pagan practices
No they didn't, they were always polytheists. Ezra and his fellow Yahwists, under the Persian Emperor Artaxerxes' patronage, was the one who began to proselytize. Likewise, giving LaVey any attention at all is far more respect than he deserves, saying that Judaism is LaVeyan Satanism is fucking stupid especially in light of the fact that the cripchanner doesn't even get the basics of the Polytheism-Yahwism change right.

And let's not even get started with the idea of Turks and Semites being related in any way shape or form.

>>133894237
who the man on the pic?

THIS IS NOW A PAGAN THREAD.

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literally worshiping a delusion jew whose followers claim was a zombie

>>133894787
>http://www.worldhistory.biz/download567/The_Orthodox_Study_Bible_-_St.pdf

Hey Ortho Bro - I was looking through the Eastern Orthodox Bible pdf. Can you explain to me what chapters are included in it and how it was compiled? (Ex - where is 2 Corinthians Chapter 5?)

I'm not trying to be contentious, just would like to know.

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>>133894237
>pic
The real redpill is that there's no one to punish bad people except other people. Nothing will save you, nothing will exert revenge for you. God is only a fantasy to comfort weak willed people who can't face that there's no higher meaning to our lives without breaking down into self destructive nihilism.
The only meaning is what you define for yourself. Face the truth, stop believing your own lies.

>>133904846
m-more?
I might be cured from my gayness then

>>133905264
>Christianity give us something to live for
>they create great empires

>wild pharisee marxism appear
>everyone is an atheist now
>everyone have nothing to fight for
>everyone depressed

even in this world God help us and we dont even know it

>>133905743
>be weak willed piece of shit
>only meaning in life is muh god
>become depressed when you stop believing the lie
Do you see the problem? Believing in god tries to cure symptoms, not the real illness. Start relying on yourself, start believing in yourself and your own morals. Only then can you be really free and happy while living a great life and creating great things.

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>>133894237
pic
>>133895551
blows my mind that /pol/ did that I'm so so happy

>>133897147
yes this ecumenical movement is a romantic but false path espoused by the current Patriarch in Constantinople , but since there must be unanimity , it's rejected by everyone else

The right move is an Orthodox church for every country , the protestant theologeans think in terms of reforms for Orthodoxy , but they don't get it very well , even world class scholars , their error is caving in to social pressure , gay priests etc

>>133906458
the problem is that you dont see God as the truth, you believe this is a lie, Christianity gives you hope cos God is a reality, every lie disapear in time, but you see Him 2000+ years and counting

without God you arent free, you are slave of your owns desires
>muh money
>muh lust
all pointless

>>133906760
I am happy without god, I have hope without god. I don't need money or lust.
I am happy because I have a wife who loves me, because we will have children, because I will move to the US and love my new country, because I will do what I love and have enough money to buy what I and my family needs and wants.
I don't need god, and you don't either. There are no truths or lies, only whatever we say to make ourselves feel better. You are a slave, desperately clinging to the thought that some being somewhere protects you because you are so special to him. And people will control you by telling you how to behave so he will keep protecting you. Like a nigger depending on government welfare, no self reliance.

>>133907256
here are Christians why you thing your muh feels/ muh ideas are precious to us. You are a narcissist you've already failed a little and without a moral compass you will do like >>133906760 says and be a slave in a prison you don't know exists

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>>133900236
Just found this on Amazon, thanks based anon

>>133901968
SAVED.jpg

>>133902651
Then maybe consider a different church - mine has many extremely attractive, wholesome women. Of course, they'll require an extremely wholesome man - as will their families - but, they ARE out there...

>>133903235
To be honest - I dont think that I know... Perhaps googling the quote will provide and answer... I had thought it was in the text of the image, my mistake.

>>133905144
To be honest - I'm just a layman myself, and I'm not particularly well versed on the different versions of the bible. I wish that I could help - but I know that we have some extremely knowledgeable and well read anons in this thread who can hopefully help...

>>133905264
Anon, while there are some passive Christians out there, the vast majority of us arent - see pic related.

Although, the bible says that "Revenge Is Mine (God's) to take", and it really is true. Folks get what they deserve in this life...

For example, let me tell you a story. When I was just getting started on my trade, I bought a machine from a local man I knew, and got totally hosed on the deal. It wasnt in the condition he said that it was, he hadnt dont the work to improve it that he claimed, it didnt even have the specs that he claimed that it did. He regularly screwed people on other such deals as I soon realized, and you think - he got away with it - bad guys always win - etc?

Well - not so much.

He was just driving through town one day and got REAMED by an armored truck. Not one of those little van sized one, but a full on, F-650 sized truck, weighing many tons and plowing full speed through a red light - and directly nailing this persons pickup and no one elses.

The guy almost died, he was in the hospital for ages, it cost him and his family most of their money, his truck was a complete loss and last I knew, his business was closed for the forseeable future.

TL;DR - God took his revenge - and it was brutal.

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I unironically believe the Bible permits and encourages (spoiler) race based (spoiler) chattel slavery.
im not nasty or violent but reading the arguments of each side, the abolitinists relied on humanitarian ideas, and reality has showed they were not quite right.

>>133907256
well if you have childer they can be saved, you werent all useless, there are truth and lies, if you dont want to see them it's your own problem, if you believe everything is a coincidence it's your soul anyway

and im a slave to God, but we all are slaves to something, better walk along with God that knows everything

>>133907468
My moral compass doesn't need god you self righteous prick. I can rely on myself. God never existed and we only dreamed him up because we were too scared to be alone on this planet, to have no pre-determined meaning in our life.

>>133907759
we dont have a predetermined meaning, you can choose to do what you want, that's why you can choosing not to follow God
that's why it's lawful to make you burn in hell, it's your choice

>>133907759
you study harder before you pontificate about things you have no idea about, so you spent 2 minutes to rationalize religion and think you found it ? not only narcissist but also prideful

>study texts with a knowledge based outlook and you will start to realize your initial ignorance on the subject

go now with God's help

>>133907584

Nevermind. The PDF only had half the pages.

>>133907584
For every bad person who has bad luck in the end, there's another dying happily and none the wiser. For every good person who gets rewarded, there's another getting shafted by bad luck. Don't rely on luck for doing the job, go do it yourself.
>>133907631
You make no sense at all, try to speak in coherent sentences.

>>133907606
What in the bible fuels your theory? Genuinly curious, not being hostile... Welcome to the thread!

>>133908061
All good, my friend! Here's the real thing, if you're curious:

https://www.amazon.com/Orthodox-Study-Bible-Hardcover-Christianity/dp/0718003594/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500255736&sr=8-1&keywords=orthodox+study+bible

>>133908182
im just saying it's your own choice, if you dont want to accept Christ nobody can force you

>>133908050
>>133908050

Try to explain how depressive people "found god" because suddenly they started telling themselves everything will be fine, god protects them, he listens to them. They are lying to themselves, as did countless people in our history, because their situation sucked balls with no fault of their own and that was the only thing they thought they could do.
Be free, believe in saving yourself, not being saved. You're better than that.

>>133908507
i dont get it, even if it was a lie, why dont you want them to be happy? they live a better life, far away from sin, following God, aren't you just jealous?

>>133908201
Here are the documents which explain the position;
http://utc.iath.virginia.edu/christn/chesjpat.html
https://www.kingscollege.net/gbrodie/The%20religious%20justification%20of%20slavery%20before%201830.pdf
http://www.ushistory.org/us/27f.asp

also TBQH slavery, monarchy always existed since until the Robesperrian (i refused to call it "french") Revolution. Slavery is just another form of human interaction.
>inb4 ha you wouldnt like to be a slave!
Slaves could and did rise to prominence. some ottoman emperors were slaves.

>>133908507
this is called a rationalization, you see a phenomenon, you asume you know about it epidermally and then you make a decision return here and >>133908050 heed an advice given to you , your opinion is useless to me because I know better, you needlessly insist to be heard , who cares

>>133894237
where did you find the St. Paisios quote ? excellent

>>133908354
>if you don't do what I tell you to someone will punish you for it after you die, now give me money
The absolute state of christianity
>>133908721
Now we're getting somewhere, because it is weak to not be in charge of yourself and your morality, your actions. I feel sad for those people because they have huge underlying problems that warrant lying to themselves to not become depressed. I feel sad for them because they put bandaids over their broken legs. I want them to rise above and actually fix their shit so they can be happy, completely independent of anything else, especially how other people interpret thousand year old scripts of people who wanted to scam retards for their money.

>>133909033
holy shit
>muh money

>i will give my money to doctors or witches etc
>but to God neeever
the state of atheism, all poor

>>133905445
We do not hate Homosexuals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoSfApeq1OA

>>133908851
I offer people to be independent, you offer them to blindly believe in whatever other people want them to do. You talk big but you are a weak slave to the opinions of other people. If some priest tells you tomorrow it's wrong to just flush your shit, you have to recycle by eating it, you will feel bad whenever you don't do it, or worse, actually start doing it. Because your morality hinges on outside forces you can't control, not on yourself. I feel sorry for you, maybe you will reconsider.

>>133909190
Where's gods bank account, how can I send him money?
No, you give money to people roleplaying as gods mouthpiece, like a good sheep you think you do good by giving them money so they can buy themselves gold crowns.

>>133901968
are ALL rabbis inherently nefarious?
or only the kabbalistic ones?

>>133909033
but if they are completely okay and want to follow God couse they can see it's the truth? they have a fufilling life + God, why do you think it's bad?

and dont fucking say >muh money
you give because you have, you poor bastard

>>133909457
>Where's gods bank account, how can I send him money?

>he doesn't know 'bout Tithing

>>133909457
you give money to people who you see they are doing a good work, lot of churches help people in need, about drinking, alcohol, give clothes to the neede, maybe they keep a little for themselves but it's all they do, so what?

>>133909033
>>133909287

nah your staying in your place because you are missing the spiritual component, your whole assessment is on a marxist almost understanding its material and misguided

Im sorry but i don't obey priesthood like you think, you oversimplified everything in your mind to fit your limited preconceptions , if everyone thought like you they would turn into a thirsty self serving beast , that bases his independence at all costs with no morality we go back to the first reply

>>133909457
it's not not about money , see what i tell you ? you have no idea and talk out of your asshole , go read the bible already with an inquiring mind , the NT only , now get the hell out of here , you annoy

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CHRISTIANS ARE THE REAL JEWS

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>>133894237

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>>133909502
Who are you giving that money? To people, not to god. They play you like a fiddle to have a nice life, and you fall for it. They tell you the sweet lies you want to hear, and you fall for it. You work for them, because they make you feel "god", snakeoil if I ever saw some. You can be happy without god, you can be moral without god, and you can have hope without god, because I know I have it.
You will feel better because you will be sure of yourself, you will build up your own morality and be sure of it, because it's yours, tailored to your own life. And only you control it, no one else.

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>>133909647
>keep a little for themselves

>>133909839
but they are helping people! you give money to coca cola or i dont know what shit you give money to and they kill you with that shit, you give money all the time, why dont help people that help other people? for fuck sakes >muh money every time and they say they dont want money

>>133909839
>a nice life
not anymore thanks to you-know-joo

>work for them
people stop going to a minister who isnt effective.

>>133909033
That second part you just said....I think I might be having the same issue atm

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>>133894237
Fuck you christcuck niggers.

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>>133894237
Damn, that faggot in OP's image is a coward. Glad I'm not an effeminate christcuck.

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God is great. Praise Jesus. Kill Satanists.

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>>133909974
>being this jealous of money
you want it don't ya

would you sell your soul to God if he offers you 1 million?

>>133909715
>go read the bible already with an inquiring mind
Nah I'm good.
>now get the hell out of here
Make me faggot, maybe pray to god so I disappear?

>>133910146
it wouldnt be bad if he granted me the wish you cuck faggot greedy fucking kraut

>>133910079
The first step is to realize only you are in charge of what you do, and whatever happens to you by chance, you can't control in any way. You won't get anything by praying or believing in god. You can only decide how you react and what you do. Come to terms with it, don't believe the sweet lies that you can make some god like you so he does nice things to you.

>>133905264
Correct. That monk will die weak and his enemies will win because he was too much of a coward to do anything.

>>133910291
You sure snapped quickly, maybe some repressed issues you try to drown in blind faith?

>>133910137
>>133910390
what if i offer you 1 million dollarydoos, would you sell your soul to God? even if you don't believe?

>>133905743
Name one Christian empire. All the supposedly "christian" empires were literally Jewish. Spanish empire? Run. Y Jews. British empire? Jews. Dutch empire? Again, Jews. There has never been a christian empire, only dumbass christcucks dying to enrich their Jewish masters (same to this day). There have been plenty of pagan empires though.

>>133894237
What is the true form of Christianity?

>>133910841
arent you saying jews and Christians are the same? pagan empires died years ago, killed by Christians also

These threads are so comfy.

>>133910752
Depending on what selling your soul means to you, it might be an easy million in the bank. There's no soul.

>>133910967
wow you are a bitch
would you suck someones dick if i offer you 1 million?

>>133910949
>arent you saying jews and Christians are the same?
No. I was saying that Christians put Jews in charge of their society every single time and that all those empires were run by Jews. This is historical fact.

God bless you brothers!

>>133911035
>lunatic offers you a million if you "sell your soul" to god, whatever that means
>take the million
>do nothing, nothing happens
>hahaha what a bitch you are
Do you understand how stupid you sound? Your definition of faith and soul means nothing to me, so I will take the million.

what ethnicity was Christ?
Wasn't he Galilean? A Jewish tribe?

>>133911120
if you they allow people to convert accepting Christ as their saviour, aren't we using the jews?
why do you worry about earthly things?

>>133911168
you would do anything for money you kraunt, i dont care what you say

>>133910949
>pagan empires died years ago, killed by Christians also
And yes, we all already know that Christian traitors have been destroying European culture for the benefit of Jews for hundreds of years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGbfJb3qbSg

>>133911265
Whatever you say bruh, maybe you will rise above being defined by other people one day and actually start living for yourself. Meanwhile I'm kinda sorry for you.

>>133910665
well lets see you are narcissist , ignorant, prideful and a psychopath , the thing that makes germany start 2 world wars and try to destry the europeans a third time, words are lost on you

>>133911429
im sorry for you, doing whatever for easy money holy shit

>>133894237
Pic related is exactly what's wrong with religion. Always waiting for the afterlife and not fixing things in the now.

>>133894237
Christianity will save the west! I love Jews!

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>>133911512
Projecting hard, and flagposting without actually using your own flag? That's just weak.

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>>133894237
This isn't a Christian place brother

>>133911576
>do literally nothing
>get money
Oh no god has my soul now, just like my dad still has my nose I guess.

>>133911602
people dont want things to get fixed, they even push things to get worst, at least we try to save their soul

>>133911724
go fuck yourself already you're a lost case

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I've not yet killed myself out of fear of burning in hell but with each passing day I see this world sink lower and lower into degeneracy.

It's getting harder and harder not to feed myself some lead.

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>>133911894
>don't worry goy, everything will be fine as soon as you are dead, just don't become uppity, god wouldn't want that

>>133912045
why dont you fix it then if you can?

>>133911725
For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them. - Matthew 18

>>133912031
Fight for yourself, you have a shot at life, don't waste it. What problems are you having? The only hell there will be if you kill yourself is for everyone you love around you, they would be devastated. If not for yourself, keep going for them.

>>133911265
>if you they allow people to convert accepting Christ as their saviour, aren't we using the jews?
No, they weren't. They were stupid goyim working to empower and enrich Jews.

>why do you worry about earthly things?
Kill yourself nigger.

>>133912103
That's what I'm doing. Unlike you I don't just sit around circlejerking about muh verses in muh bible, god will save us

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>>133912318
you are just here shitposting with me, im just talking about God
but you are right, we need to get out there and start doing something for real, not that anarchy shit of >down with the system, but helping people and saving their eternal life

>>133912216
Financial, educational, personal problems. I feel like I've been fighting for myself for quite some time but I'm just getting tired. I relfect on God often and just wonder if maybe even He wants me dead. Perhaps He is totally indifferent to my life and perhaps all I have known about Him has been a misunderstanding.

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>>133912485
More like building our civilization and putting lead in enemies you cuck
>muh afterlife, just focus on what happens after your death.

>>133912318
did you fucking read the text , do you know what it says in it before rushing to your preconceived ideas about Christianity ? No you didn't read , then how the hell do you know what it is about ?
>Uh bu I assume and also I know everything ha ha ,
Well get lost

>>133912031
>fearing burning in hell

Degenerate hedonist trash. Christcuckoldry is such a degenerate religion. A true man of spirit doesn't worry on his fate and future hardship. Only weak christniggers do that. That's why their religion is literally a therapeutic self-help program.

>>133912686
if you have enemies think why do you have them, muslims are a religious threath do you think that's a coincidence? they are overcoming you, do you think preaching the truth of Christ is going to be easy in germany? ha

>>133912632
Whatever problems you have, you can fix them. You control your life, stop being a victim, whatever heavy shit happened to you, fight against it just out of spite if there's no other reason left. Fuck god if he wants you to die, prove him wrong, don't be a cuck and let him walk all over your life.
What problems exactly are you having?

>>133912103
Unfortunately, a great percentage of Euro-descended people have been ruined by centuries of christcuckoldry and it's dysgenic practices. So fixing problems is very difficult when so many worship a Jew and believe that fixing problems is "earthly things."

>>133912926
They are a racial threat. Most immigrants are not devout Muslims or anything. They're just niggers who christfags pretend are human.

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>>133912031

Other people's degeneracy is no reason to kill yourself. It's a reason to live. The world is better with you here. Stay here with us. We need all of our good men and good women or we will disappear.

>>133913221
the problem you people dont see is that it's not a problem you can fix in earthly means, you walked away from God, you are trying to fight God's punishment with lead, the only way to fix this problem is to come back to God, Europe, USA are not Godly places, it's not a coincidence

>>133912957
oh there you go the internet psychologist

>don't listen to this fucker guys he;s envious of priests and also he's deaf as fuck , if you think he will help you he cant help himself

>>133913379
It's pointless to argue with him, he's thoroughly indoctrinated with that shit. Would probably snap like a twig if he stopped believing in otherworldly beings protecting him as long as he has faith. Weak.

>>133913418
>>133912031
Listen to this guy, the mere fact that you see what happens and are self ware means you are worth more than most people.

>>133913552
>the problem you people dont see is that it's not a problem you cant fix in earthly means
fak

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>>133913552
>it's not a problem you can fix in earthly means
Yes it is. It is very easily fixed with "earthly means."

And christcuckolds are the primary force destroying America and Europe you stupid nigger. You know who runs the NGOs that ferry shitskins to Europe from Africa? Christians! These are mostly Christian charities! How is "returning to Christ" going to solve a problem that is caused by Christianity you stupid low IQ Jew?

>>133911894
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate religion. However, the "I will pray for you" over actually fixing things is really annoying. Someone who is sick doesn't need a prayer, they need a cure.

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Stop touching children

>>133894237
what is the preferred method of exterminating nonbelievers?

>>133912031
I've felt the same way too, for many years. Yet I keep going. For me it takes a lot of prayer right now.

>>133912632
Same feeling. This is a fallen world and we have Jesus as the exit from it. That's what keeps me going. It's tough though. I've been close a couple of times.

>>133912724
The point is if that is a real priest in OP's pic, he should be going crazy rather than thinking God will take care of everything. God gave you a brain capable of reason for a reason.

>>133913864
well maybe yall deserve it anyway, go back to God and we are going to push closed borders

>>133913871
how do you cure terminal cancer?

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>>133913934
You're confusing Christianity with Islam.

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>>133913934
Love and fellowship, being nice to them, being a good example and leading them to conversion

>>133914052
There's no exit, you only have this one life. There's nothing beyond, either you fix shit here or you have nothing.

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>>133914273
And then when do you diddle their kids?

>>133914304
I choose not to believe that.

>>133914218
>so i can save you
>from what?
>from the things this world is going to do to you
i mean you do this thing to yourself, if you dont trust God he cant protect you

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>>133912632

If you are willing to die to escape these problems you should also be willing to make other drastic decisions, other drastic changes in how you live. You don't need to die to escape whatever judeobureaucratic hellhole problems you have going on right now.

@NSA/FBI I'm talking abt Iiving in the woods or volunteering or something, pls no bully

>>133914371
You will be disappointed.

>>133914273
i see. so we pretend to be their friends until they trust us, then we decapitate them all?

>>133914259
nope

>>133914099
>how do you cure terminal cancer?
>How do you cure something that by definition is uncurable?

I don't know, man, how do you move an immovable object? In reality, you try new techniques and drugs to cure "terminal" cancer. Hopefully something works eventually. Prayer, however, doesn't do anything.

>>133914052
>being this cowardly.

Just do yourself a favor and eat a bullet, faggot. Nobody will miss you.

>>133914521
If I'm right no I won't, if you're right it won't matter. Either way, I win. Easy choice.

>>133912957
I've lost my job and am running out of money. They've raised my rent but I cannot afford to move into a new place as they want last month rent/security deposit. I do not want to saddle myself with debt.

I've always had a deep saddness to my bones, even as a child. I tried killing myself as a kid but was unsuccessful. It wasn't an attention whore thing, my parents never found out about it.

Now as I am older I see what a sad place this world is. I have no friends because most the friends I've had in the past were self-serving.

I just don't have any hope for the future of the world.

>>133898869
>>133898370
This is what I did, went to a second service this morning. Still kind of sat in the back and just watched,but a nice family took me to lunch afterwards. Two of the family members even browse /pol/. 10/10 would go again

Also, I saw more white children and babies in that church than anywhere else I've seen in a while. Each couple had at LEAST 2 kids, and many had 3 or 4.

>>133914099
In the future we will simply kill you. Christkikes get the first bullet.

>>133914625
>Nobody will miss you
Not true. But how would you know?

>>133914400
yes he can. he's all powerful. are you saying god isn't omnipotent? you will go to hell for your blasphemy!!!!!

>>133914610
>well sorry lady we dont know how to cure you see you never again
how many people have been saved from prayers? you think this cancer boom is a coincidence too? fucking shit man

>>133914711
"We" lol go to bed fatass neckbeard

>>133914872
he can but he will respect your free will, you dont want him to act, he wont act

>>133914052
im going to pray for both of you right now, God bless you people and help you find the truth

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>>133914069
oh that's not a real priest that's an actual saint. A proper saint with the gifts of the Holy spirit like the gift of sight and more ,whats a stupid atheist 'rational' retard going to tell me after just one man like that defies the laws of the universe.

I'm going listen to the holyman, not a kraut on /pol/ or whoever else. And that's it for everyone.

>>133914647
Job market really sucks, especially if you are in the wrong sector, I feel you. Don't give up, you will find a new job if you keep searching. Who did you work as? Maybe you can take a minimum wage job for the time being until you find a real job?

Maybe you have depression? Try to talk to someone you trust.

>>133914647
suicideproject.org
Sometimes I go here to read. It's not Christian, or religious. Mostly blog posts just like this. It helps me sometimes. It may help you too.

>>133914766
>Not true.
Nobody that matters
>But how would you know?
Cowards are never missed, except by other cowards.

>>133914942
It is easy to kill massive amounts of Christians. See the Russian revolution. We will copy these same methods the Jews used, but we will finish the job and end you for good.

>>133914976
bullshit. god has a plan for everyone. it's god's master plan. if he discarded it the second some ignorant, and unknowing half clay half holy spirit goblin (that's us) made a bad decision, then he wouldn't have a plan would he?

besides, he wouldn't make hell if he's a good god. so that proves there's no hell and that everyone goes to heaven no matter what. if that wasn't so, it would make god an evil demon. and that's blasphemy.

if you had a retarded 3 year old who wanted to play in the street, and you let him, that would make you a very bad parent. instead, if you're a good person, you'd save your kid from the traffic that was about to kill him. a bad person would say "i'll let him get killed because i want him to make his own decisions, although he doesn't know any better."

>>133914893
>well sorry lady we dont know how to cure you see you never again
That's not the attitude you should ever have with science and medicine. It's "What should we try next?..." until the patient dies.

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>>133914218
Thats not really how it works, anon, God takes no pleasure in the punishment of the wicked. He would rather everyone be saved and enter into his kingdom, but alas, we live in a fallen world where some make better choices than others with their precious free will. Regardless, I pray that you and your friends here will one day turn to the lord, who loves you and cares for you, no matter what.

I lived as a fedora for about a decade, I know what its like. I know you're probably not interested now, but remember - the door is always open for you.

>>133914647
Well thats a rough hand, my brother. I'll pray for you, as you ride out all of these earthly problems...

>>133914710
YEAHHH! I'm so happy for you, and proud of you, my friend! /pol/ makes yet another into a Christian. Its amazing, I'm so glad that it went well. Sounds a lot like my church... Let me add my welcome to you :)

>>133915130
he was a nigger from uganda

>>133915833
it's a game with set rules, you either choose God or you burn in hell, maybe you dont like it but it's the way it is, do you think God is evil for doing this? go tell him

if you have a 3 year old you teach him the things he sould or shouldnt do, you let him grow up and be responsable of the things he choose to do

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>>133916061
>YEAHHH! I'm so happy for you, and proud of you, my friend! /pol/ makes yet another into a Christian. Its amazing, I'm so glad that it went well. Sounds a lot like my church... Let me add my welcome to you :)

ikr ? /pol/ is the hand of God ha ha
>>133914710
welcome to the family brother , good night folks

>>133915728
Then do it. Put your money where your chin-beard is, otherwise fuck off to bed. Who is "we"? The Elders of Faggon? You're just a dork RPing on an anime board. Talk about pathetic.

>>133915138
>defies the laws of the universe
He didn't. You're being ridiculous. This is exactly why Christianity fell out of favor and everybody lost their way. Because you'd rather believe in fantasy than fix the things on Earth. You're too stupid to continue a proper religion.

Imagine if Jesus thought he could just wait for God to fix the Pharisees and not do anything.

>>133916061
>God takes no pleasure in the punishment of the wicked
>An omnipotent entity takes actions that displeasing to him
>The entity that literally defines good and evil chooses to do displeasing action (defined as evil)

It's almost like Christianity is logically retarded and kindergarten-tier metaphysics.

>>133916363
well trust me , he did , that's why people believe

>>133916061
>Thats not really how it works, anon
yes it is

>God takes no pleasure in the punishment of the wicked.
then why did he kill all the first born of egypt? why did he kill everyone during the flood? why did he create hell so he can send everyone there to burn forever? god loves the torture and death of the sinners! KILL!!!

>He would rather everyone be saved and enter into his kingdom
he's all powerful, so that means what he wants will come true. if he wants people to go to hell and burn for eternity, that's what will happen. if he wants people to go to heaven, then that's what they'll do.

>17 I urge you, brothers and sisters, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people. 19 Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I rejoice because of you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil.

>20 The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet.

>The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you.

>>133916196
of course your false god is evil! you are worshiping a demon god! a false god that takes pleasure in the eternal misery and torture of his creation. you are worshiping a false, evil god.

the true god is good and send everyone to heaven regardless. devils play games with people's lives, god does not.

>>133916327
>Who is "we"?
Nationalists.

>>133917001
you are a fucking retard

God bless the faithful, and God bless the sinners so that they turn to our Lord in Heaven.

>>133917001
God cannot allow everyone into heaven otherwise he is not entirely good and there is no justice

Hell is not eternal suffering, it is the second death. Separation from God forever

>>133917048
>nationalists

Fat neckbeard confirmed.

Still RPing on an anime board. Way to fight the good fight, bitchtits.

>>133917117
demon worshiper

>>133917551
Yes he can and he is. He's all-knowing, and he intentionally make everyone imperfect. When he creates a person he knows already everything that person will do, or else it would mean god is not all-knowing. Therefore, he intentionally makes the sinners the way they are. So sending them to hell would be evil. That's why everyone goes to heaven.

If you intentionally make something broken, it would be stupid to blame the thing for being broken. God is not stupid.

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>>133917635

He says he's a nationalist but he doesn't even understand the spirit of his own country and its people.

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>>133918888

>8888
P R O V I D E N C E