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/pol/ communism general 2017-07-16 08:28:52 Post No. 133878779
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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
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>>133878779
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Why force the working class to use your system instead of letting them join coops and communes of their own free will in our capitalist economy?
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>comrades
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>>133878779
Ubey zeba, Communist blat. You wholeheartedly ruined Russia for some 70 years, and you still want to implement Communism?
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>>133880870
>>133880870
We want to change the whole system not to apply tiny local patches here and there. Also the bourgeoisie would try to sabotage those workers coop and communes once they grow to big I'm sure.
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Sup comrades!
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>>133884231
Soviet Union was a superpower and right now the capitalist Russia is a joke.
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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/
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Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
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>>133884357
Nigger most of the bourgeoisie in western countries have pseudo-marxist sympathies. The working class just doesn't want what you're selling.
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>tfw small business owner
Commies can larp all they want about their fantasy revolutions but years from now I'm still gonna be a business owner and they'll still be making my coffee hoping I'll give them a tip :^)
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>>133878779
Commies aint people.
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>>133884357
>We want to change the whole system not to apply tiny local patches here and there
At the cost of immense bloodshed and a loss of freedom?
>Also the bourgeoisie would try to sabotage those workers coop and communes once they grow to big
They would be subject to the same competition that every business is subject to, if they cannot compete then that is the fault of communism.
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>>133884567
The country doing well as a whole doesn't mean that shit wasn't terrible for the people in the country.
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>>133884671
pseudomarxism aka social democracy that it is now disintegrating. Working class has been educated in a bourgeois world and needs to become class conscious again.
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>>133884671
I'm left as fuck but this the undeniable truth. There's just no way to reverse this level of fuckup.
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>>133878779
HIJO DE LA GRAN PUTA DEJA DE HACER ESTOS PUTOS THREADS Y VETE A LA JODIDA MIERDA PUTO CABRÓN
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>>133884567
Sure, except the whole superpower thing was bound to collapse eventually. I didn't mean to be a dick in my first post - but as a Russian I used to think this way as well. "The USSR was a superpower compared to now". They were a superpower as a resultof assimilation, conquest, espionage, and genetics, not because of their economic system.
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>>133885068
In fact, imagine if Russia combined all the qualities I listed, instead of the October Revo. They would be unstoppable.
Everyone knows "American" isn't even a culture. The whole premise of America rests on European immigrants.
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>>133884888
Social democracy is not psuedo-marxism you colossal faggot. You don't have a monopoly on social programs. I'm talking about the progressive shitshow that came out of the frankfurt school. It is undeniable that the middle and upper class is filled with champagne socialists, and that they represent the overwhelming majority of support for marxist thought in the west.
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>>133884888
>Working class has been educated in a bourgeois world and needs to become class conscious again
You haven't exactly been earning their favor what with the constant assaults on the working class by Antifa and leftists.
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>>133886299
Antifa is filled with anarchists that believe they can intimidate the bourgeoisie by smashing things around but lacking a sufficient organization and numbers, we ML communists defend the creation of a vanguard party.
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>>133886540
Communism is anarchic, and Antifa functionally is your vanguard party. The reason they're disorganized as fuck is because they're too committed to the communist ideal of no social hierarchy, and the results only proves why the concept is so shit.
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>>133886540
>we ML communists defend the creation of a vanguard party
Dear God, you people still believe in a vanguard party after all the failed socialist states that have embraced that method?
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>>133886936
Yes but the difference is that the ancoms want to go straight to the anarchic society while we want the transitional socialist state.
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>>133884605
I was promised food, did I come to the right place anon? Oh, wait
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