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If the soviet union had survived into modern day, would they

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If the soviet union had survived into modern day, would they be more like the Chinese or the north koreans?
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>>133846803
Us poor soldiers
Wat
USs whole.shtick is giving their soldiers some freedom to act instead of being literal meatbags like chinks Russians and Germans
Board is bad quality today WTF is happening
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>>133846803
>Turkey
>God tier
>Lost almost very war to Russia.

>t. Mehmet
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>>133846803
fuck you faggot we're a peaceful country, you must be a nigger with all that violent blood
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>>133846803
>Denamark and Sweden literally have more wars between them than any other 2 countries
>won't even fight
????
>Turkey
>God tier
???????????????????????????????????????????
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>>133846803
I think Soviet Russia would be more similar to how Belarus is currently.
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>>133846803
>turkey

lmao, they were beaten by almost everybody, instambul ocuppied by the english, the english even finished the otomon empire, in 1917 just for the lulz
Were beaten by greeks, serbs, spaniards, portuguese.
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>>133847223
Turks won their independence with shit tier weapons fighting against France, UK, Greece and Italy all together at the same time. They may have a shit weapons but they are fierce fighters.
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>>133847622
Not so fast, all of those countries you have counted got their ass handed at the end and that was at their weakest point. Today turks are 8th biggest millitary in the world.
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>>133848162
>all of those countries you have counted got their ass handed at the end and that was at their weakest point

I seriously doubt that spniards or portuguese ever lost a battle against the turks. and i'm not even joking.
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>>133846803
>Denmark and Sweden
>worse tier than Norway and Finland
Just gonna say that those countries have been a part of ours for most of their history
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>>133846948
US soldiers lost a war against uneducated, almost unarmed vietnamese farmers, without a air force and a navy.

US soldiers were constantly highed and drugged.

US soldiers refused to comply to certain orders. US soldiers sometimes even killed their COs.
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>>133846803
>Korea
>most skilled Asians
>proceed throughout history as Japan's personal doormat to mainland Asia on multiple occasions
Ayyylmao
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>France
>High Tier
HAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK?
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>>133847005
>>133847223
>>133847622
come back when you literally fight against everyone in the world for more than 2000 years and still manage to exist

https://youtu.be/zHXAYq5VBj8
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>>133848823
Last time I checked they occupied your country for like 300 years
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>>133848823
I kek'd as well Brit bro. This listing is pure laughs.
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>>133847631
>turks fierce fighters
KYS roach
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China. USSR was liberalizing then forgot to suppress the democrats and the country broke. They would have opened trade under the last break economic reforms, but would have had to maintain suppression of dissenters to survive.
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>>133849248
I see one proud Russia's bitch, well done.
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>>133849248
Oh wow, so much victories. Armenia is the best.
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>>133848653
>No support for the war
>LBJ as President, the worst president of all time
>Ignores Generals and advisors
>Ordered to capture areas and then give them up many times throughout the war.

It's equivalent to USA fighting drunk.
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Spain defeated Turkey.
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>Ireland
>Decent tier

lol
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>>133850624
>>No support for the war
And why is that? Because the americans were getting their ass kicked, and the americans were pussies who could not handle a war. A sign of a dying civilization.
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>>133848823
List is memes but France getting memed in WW2 is not an excuse to see them as inferior.

"Germany" was France's bitch boy for a very long time.
History has proven that the only people able to effectively fuck up the French seem to be the French themselves.
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Ottomans are cockroaches https://youtu.be/XqS2g5WlMgM
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>>133846803
bitch we beat the shit out of roach when they were outnumbering us 3-1 most eastern europeans did this the fuck out of here also every war you fight today is for israel so that should be a - for US cowards were in what war?
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>>133846803
>Mexico
>easily beat Texas
When???????????????????????????
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>>133849040
Yes, yes. Roaches spread fast and are hard to kill. What's new?
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>>133851578
You aren't funny.
You should kill yourself.
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>>133849079
oh snap he went there
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>>133851681
Can't handle the bantz? :^)
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>>133850940
And the Viet at Diem Bien Phu.
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>>133851787
Not really.
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>>133851379
>one of the oldest ottoman provinces
>WE WUZ CRUZAIDERS AND SHIET

I wish Hiroshimoot would just IP range ban Romania.
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>>133851871
>"glugluglu imma post a picture of a girl! I sure showed him!"

Skitter on, insect. Skitter on.
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>>133846803
>Portugal and Spain
>not in bad tier

Wooow they defeated a continent with technology thousands of years more advanced than its inhabitants how amazing!!!!
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>>133850822
Brits out uppa ra
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>>133852183
Don't talk with a cock in your mouth pls
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The Italians being bad at war meme needs to stop. Especially if the Greeks get credit for Alexander yet the Italians don't get credit for Rome
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>>133852280
what are you talking about?
Spaniards and portuguese defeated, english, french, dutch, in many war's and in different battles and years.
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>>133852317
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>>133851924
we never were an ottoman province
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>>133852579
>>133852317
Honestly I was just anti-bog shitposting, Decent/high is where they belong since their entire history is:

>Being fucking good fighters against invaders
>Being fucking good fighters alongside those who invaded them
>Being fucking good writers and christcucks
>Being fucking great rebels
>Bullying us anglos until we finally decided to let them have a country
>Having an economy so great that it took a global recession to crash it

Nice little country.
Fuck them, but nice place.
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>>133852506
t. Jerseyfag
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>>133850236
I keep seeing this meme but never understand why. They sell weapons to both us and your little nigger brothers to the east who we still cuck.
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Tur*s ITT
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>>133852818
>Being fucking good fighters amongst each other
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>>133852789
Oh yeah, you were three or four!
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>>133853349
True, but they really came into their own against norsefags.
Battle of Tara never forgetti
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>>133852490
I'm not you last decade. :^)
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>>133853501
They could have kicked the English out during the Confederation era, but we spent 7 years fighting each other instead of preparing to resist the Parliamentary army. Typical of Irish history unfortunately.
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>>133846803

>poor soldiers

Always makes me kek. The modern American soldier has more real time combat training and readiness than any modern nation.
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>>133850923
>>133848653
I thought euros were suppose to be smart.
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>>133853421
we werent a province do you know what that means? a vassal yes and only because on several ocasions people just thought to fucking backstab us like hungaryans did to Vlad and westerners did to Mihai a province would be any of the middle east parts
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>>133847338
This
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>>133846803
Germans were very good at grand strategy. Generals of WW1 and WW2 understoof that it was a logistics war. Africa Corps was only there for the oil and to block certain reinforcement lines of the UK.

What they lack is allies, diplomacy, realistic expectations and internal loyalty.
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>>133846803
>Turkey God tier.

Oh it's a troll pic.
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>>133846803
God Tier:
>Roman Italy
>Egypt
>Greece
>British Empire
>Russian Empire
>Mongolia
>Spain
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>>133853802

He's Portuguese anon, they only learn about the time period in which they were still relevant.
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>>133846803
What kind of moron made this shit, if Napoleon and fucking ancient battles count then why the fuck is sweden ranked "won't even fight". They were a major player in europe for quite a while, pounding germans and poles into submission
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>>133854285

>Greece
Most butt hurt country.
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>>133846803
Mexico beat Texas? Uh, nope.
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>>133846803
Japan had good tactics sometimes (okinawa comes to mind) but always had terrible strategy, almost worse than germany at least germany is always between a rock and a hard place so their strategy failing is occasionally tough to blame on them entirely
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love the fact that we have our own tier
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>>133854422
The truth is that none past events should count but this pic was made just for lulz
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>>133853671
Wew
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>>133854422
Most people on /pol/ are retards.
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>>133848653

>lost vietnam meme

>soldiers were smokin dope meme


well the last one may actually have some truth to it but the first one is utter nonsense.
Anyway, on to the OP, why is china so low as well? The Chinese have been fighting everyone, each other included, for longer than the muslims have been fighting everyone (also each other included). The Chinese have significantly much more experience in the battlefield than any other flag on the list.


I do think the problem with the OP though is that it puts too much weight in the armies of the past and not enough about modern day army. For instance, Greek is ranked very high but Shittaly is bottom tier, despite the Romans kicking the shit out of everyone (and even fighting the Chinese at one point) during the same time period that the Greek bulletpoints made Greek as high up on the list as it is.


Basically, OP is just a fuckin highschool kid who doesn't know any history and never served in any military in any capacity. Yet again I find myself arguing with teenagers over the internet about stupid things
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>>133846803
Cowards?We fought the Ottoman Empire with armies 10x smaller and still managed to win important battles.
Romania sent the most volunteers in Operation Barbarosa.

Bad morale?You never heard our anthem or any of our war songs,Romanians don't capitulate,they are either 100% destroyed or (((they))) pull some strings(ww2 when the king sent Antonescu to prison)

Good cannon fodder?Bullshit,90% of our wars were defence and never lost big numbers of men.
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>>133846803
we are not dependend on germany
we produce our own weapons, have good infrastructure and in terms of alpine warfare we are basicially at the top
we even train many nato nations
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>>133853802
>>133854396
>durrr you don't suck our dicks so you're not smart
Subhuman mutts need not apply.
http://fortune.com/2015/03/10/american-millennials-are-among-the-worlds-least-skilled/
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>>133846803
We all probably be dead from a nuclear war.
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>>133854486
Well at least they killed a Nigger American recently.
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>>133854422
>>133854666
>>133854733
Checking all these and reminding that the OP is a roach

Day of the Raid when?
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>>133853942
Shh, acquisition, shh. Your autistic screeching will wake up the turkroach conquerors.

Oh wait, they don't want anything to do with your shit hole no longer.
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>>133855133
They did cuz they are so butt hurt. I mean anyone and everyone is giving it to them so when they see one brown american, they attack and only then they attack.
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>>133855211
are you fucking stupid or just dont have a grasp of the meaning of words vassal is one thing and provice is a different thing
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>>133855211
Show some respect to Romania, a specially Codreanu and their history war's against turks,protecting Europe.
Portuguese people tend to be glorious, intelligent and with values. You must be an excpetion.
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>>133850923
We really weren't though look at the k/d ratio its enormously in our favor

Technically its bullshit for us to even bring this up because Vietnam was never legally declared a war it was a police action where official war powers were never fully defined (this affected the war) and soldiers (like today under obama) were very hamstrung by engagement rules...rules the enemy didnt use
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>>133855211
also your country was conquered by litteral niggers so what are you so proud of?
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>>133856005
Romania why must you be this butthurt?
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>>133855102
>finngolian
>try to shit talk mutts about muttitude
Oh thats funny
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>>133854980
Also uh hi you guys technically spawned the Fuhrer that Germany is getting so much credit for
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>>133855751
Go steal some copper wire, gypsy. The sultan needs to buy a new sex slave, and he'll behead you if you don't fund the ACQUISITION.
>>133855968
I'll thank Poland and my country for diverting troops and resources from the Ottomans to places like the Malay archipelago first, thank you.

>>133856005
We're actually a country and have been for over half a millennium, you're a stepping stone for everyone.
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A fucking Leafy roach made this meme to "we Wuz Empire n sheit"

America's hat in the same tier as France, Greece, USA
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>>133846803
>Argentina: most skilled black nation
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>>133849040
I'm sorry, what? your very language and culture come from fucking steppe nomads east of the caspian sea (Turkic) and the last king in anatolia willingly gave the Romans his lands as inheritance, you were then ruled over by them and enjoyed prosperity for over a thousand years until turkic radiers raped and pillaged you, and eventually spread into europe.

You willingly assimilated despite all of anatolia and even the civilised middle east speaking greek for over 2 thousand years since the reign of alexander the great and half of anatolia Literally being ethnically greek before even then.
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>>133847021
>Forgetting your history as mighty Bohemia, one of only several Holy Roman Empire states given king status.
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>>133846803
>Turkey
god damn it the inflated ego on roaches is always so infuriating
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>>133849040
you still manage to exist because you were allowed to. it's something we humans call mercy.
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>>133859598
This was your mercy. Thankfully cannons can shatter any Anglo plan.
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>>133846803
>ITALIAN TIER
>last
>capital Rome
>Roman Empire
>When every other empire in history has tried to emulate the 2000 years Roman Empire (muh sun never sets, muh 1000 years reich) but failed
>2017 and you still considered the greatest empire in history
>The top of the list has a cockroach and a country that has never won a war in history

TOP KEK
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if Scotland could be on the list we would be god tier.
>fought off romans
>fought off vikings
>fought off English until cuck nobles sold us out
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>Roaches
>God Tier

>Sweden
>Won't even fight
>What is stormaktstiden?
>What is the 30 years' war?

Not to mention we were one of the few European countries who didn't fight Nazi Germany and in fact helped them with iron ore.
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>>133861943
Your great king was a refugee in our land remember.
Carolus Rex was probably Turked
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>>133859979
your country smells like shit, your food tastes like shit, and your people are brown like shit
oh also your empire like a paper house
maybe because it was run by stinky, hairy dirty roaches?
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>>133862265
Lie lie lie lie and also lie.
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>>133846803
>Finland
>Not supreme god tier

Absolute faggotry. Finland single handedly destroyed the soviet army. Finland single handedly pillaged and looted all of western europe. Finno ugric tribes single handedly beat the korean super power ten thousand years ago. Finland single handedly won every single battle the swedes fought. Swedes never fought anything it was all finns. Finland also single handedly fought back the ottoman empire when we were under the russians they sent all finns to the balkans and we liberated them all no russian fired a single fucking shot.
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>>133849040
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Americans really think that their soldiers are tough ? What a fucking joke.
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anyone that puts the Netherlands in Bad Tier is retarded

we went toe to toe with the Brits, Germans, French and Spanish for centuries
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>>133863221
Eh I think with us (as with everything in america) we have the toughest of toughest and absolute lowest of low right alongside each other

We have guys whos stories have done absolutely insane things in war, like living a call of duty game...but theyre just one guy and I'm sure a lot were fucking "golly gee willikers" goobers with borderline retard IQ
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>>133849040
nigga you didn't exist 2000 years ago you absolute idiot
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>>133864347
>Jew tries to deconstruct Turkish identity.

Nice try postmodernists.
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>every war Canada has ever been in has either been a win, or a stalemate at worst

Feels good man.
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>>133864456
nigga what identity? you guys are a mixture of greek muslim or chink arabs, and you guys stole culture from a variety of REAL civilizations, you guys have no identity and neither do the kikes
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>>133846803
>pic
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>>133864769

>you guys are a mixture of greek muslim or chink arabs, and you guys stole culture from a variety of REAL civilizations, you guys have no identity and neither do the kikes


Just because we allowed the local population to live doesn't mean they weren't conquered by us.
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>>133864716
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>>133854831
How is losing vietnam a meme?
If you don't accomplish your objectives and are forced to withdraw that's a loss.
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>>133864996
>proving his point that you nigger stole everything, including your capital
Wew
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>>133846803
Would be like Chinese except way better and actually human
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>>133865131
You can't stole what you "conquered"
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>>133863260
by toe to toe you mean occupied.
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>>133864996
>Just because we allowed the local population to live
No, what you did was interbreed with them, which lead to Greek Muslims in Anatolia (The "White" Turks), the hairy cavemen arab looking roaches that look like wookiees, and the chinky ones with Khan as their last name. Your language is disgusting and sound Orcish and your country literally invented nothing, contributed nothing to society and is one of the worlds most hated shitholes. Neck yourself
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>>133865309

>We hate yu

Literally leftist talk
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>>133865246
>taking the capital of an empire on its last leg, barely able to defend itself but still putting up a fight
Yeah, I guess me beating an old man with no arms to death means I kicked his ass
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>>133865129
Because we had no clear objective, we werent marching on their capitals but we would waste efforts bombing them and soldiers were given very strict rules of engagement, all of this was due in part to the fact that Vietnam was never formally declared as a war, it was always considered a "police action" to resolve the Gulf of Tonkin incident...a 10+ year police action that never had a formally declared war goal kek
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>>133864716
Oh yes, those renowned Canadian war exploits and heroics that everybody knows and talks about
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>>133865453
Empires aren't people.
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>>133865453
Ayo man, I conquered dat old niggas gold watch nahmean cause im just a ruff ryda like dat
>t. Turkey
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>>133865422
First you call me a jew, and then a leftist. What are you gonna call me next, an armenian? Calling names isn't an argument
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>>133865531
It's an analogy you stupid uncultured swine. How is it that your country has the second lowest IQ in all of Europe?
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>>133865586
I won't call you anything your post doesn't indicate.
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>>133865803
Kinda sorta still not an argument
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>>133865455
Your objective was more or less to prop up the southern government and to deter the spread of communism in that area.
You failed on both accounts, south vietnam was annexed and nearby countries also fell to communism.
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>>133849040
>ottoman empire
>exists
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Shut the fuck up, OP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_of_the_Savoia_Cavalleria_at_Izbushensky
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>>133865755
Empires don't get old.
They get corrupted and lose their armies to inexperienced military leadership. Their economy dies because of corruption. How then is an old man who had no choice in his predicament analogous to a long series of mistakes?
It's their/our fault.
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>>133866097
What is the 4th Crusade? That crusade crippled Byzantium because of infighting between Catholics and Orthodox. The Ottomans came fought the leftovers, you guys are REAL good fighters
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LOL how do you feel that a god tier empire got rekt from some greek farmers at 1821
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>>133866293
They let the crusaders into the city. A beginners mistake.
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>>133866375
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>>133865755
Yet Turkey was the 7th largest economy in Europe not too long ago.

Poland and Turkey will be pretty significant in next few decades.

Turkey had the biggest military industry in the region that will show it's influence in next few years.

This is coming from a geopolitic fan.
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>>133866576
>Turkey had the biggest military industry in the region that will show it's influence in next few years.
Erdocuck literally throws insults and threats left and right, he won't ever do shit
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>>133866097
>empires don't get old
>They get corrupted and lose their armies to inexperienced military leadership. Their economy dies because of corruption.
But they do, those mistakes are founded on structural weaknesses that accumulated throughout the centuries.
A young empire can often reform while an old one is too rooted in its traditions, aristocracy, etc.
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>>133846803
>OP probably loves capitalism
>rates the country that practically invented it as 'bad tier' for being weak
>seems to forget we beat the Spanish empire at it's height AND managed to fight off a simultaneous attack by Germany, UK and France.

Try again.
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lmao keep fighting for who had the greatest empire when muslims are raping your women
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>>133865474
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vimy_Ridge

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/liberation-of-holland/
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>Israel
>high tier
Remember when they had to call in the USA because they were getting buttfucked by arabs while praising Satan?
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>>133866654
Ok you can look the other way but you'll see few headlines here and there over the year about Turkey's expansion and when you look book you'll remember this conversation.
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How is Finland only decent tier and fucking Canada high tier ? Are you fucking retarded.
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>>133866923
yeah ok, as if Turkey is going to expand without the EU or NATO stopping them
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>>133849040
>more than 300million years
Ftfy
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>>133848344

It may have happened. I can't remember that either.
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>>133867040
Nato will allow Turkey in Syria to stop Iranian-Russian expansion.
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>>133852506
t. Catello from NYC
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>>133846803
Well than.... According to some list a
I read online, iran is not a threat...
Feelz good
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>>133846803
>be this newfag to not include Serbia into god tier or better yet anywhere in The chart
>god turkey
Legit cancer, kys, rope yourself, acid in eye yourself, all at once
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>>133867040
Turkey already annexed quite a bit of Syria.
Next target is rebel stronghold Idlib. As long as Syria cannot guarantee that PYD will be eradicated we have the right to "secure" our borders.
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>>133846803
Communism is alive and well. The collapse of the Soviet Union was on a reform called "Perestroika". Alter Spinelli was a communist founder of the EU. See Anatoliy Golitsyn in 'New Lies For Old"
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>>133849079

Normans and French were two different peoples.
Specially when the French "state" could barely control most of his provinces.
The Angevins were as much "French" as they were "English/British".
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>>133867460
they are Trotskyists
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>>133866917
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising
Arn't u just upset that a few kikes with dosen pistol held their ground against nazi germany longer than the entire state of france??
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>>133857666

Eternally over rated post.

Checked,
by a satanic kek, greatest ally.
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>>133865990
Yeah but with no active plan to defeat the north just scattered sorties with bullshit ROE and no decisive (unconditional surrender) plan then it was doomed to fail

They werent wrecking us head to head nearly as much as we did them, go look at the death totals, we just literally played ourselves

But whatever, South Vietnam lost their war, we didnt have a war we just withdraw our police action in support of them as they were no longer a viable country :^)
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>>133867507
The Normans were completely mixed when they invaded England, hence why they were speaking French and not their own dialect.

>>133848823
If you are "God" tier we sure as hell deserve to be at the very least high tier.
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Which tier would be Afghanistan?
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>>133846803

This >>133854648

Still there are some fixes to do:
>cowards
The correct word would be "paraculo" (literally: "someone who covers his own ass").
>unskilled
No. Unorganized, yes. But definitely not unskilled (please don't compare us to Geordie Shore shit).
>useless soldiers
Useless GENERALS. Italian soldiers were considered quite good in the last wars but with bad military strategy.
>italians
Should be +/-
>cannon fodder
Contradicts first point (yours and mine).
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>>133867808
>high tier
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>>133855968

He seems to be 15...
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>>133857666
>>133867725
This was literally the meme with PortuPepe on the UKWojak
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>>133867752
Same shit could be said for the Soviet afghan war, doesn't change the fact that they were defeats that hurt the country for no visible benefit.
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>>133867808
>HIGH TIER?
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>>133867256
You have nukes and they don't.
So they can't really be a threat.
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>>133867808
>HIGH TIER?!
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Spain defeated Turkey and with it saved Europe from its Islamization you dumbass
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>>133867911

The French can be a nuisance.
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>>133868052
>HIGH TIER!?!?!?!
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>>133867971
Pretty much my point.
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>>133867959
I know I'm memeing bro, the Vietnam wsr broke the boomers and the democrat party simultaneously and that has snowballed into the exact reasons everything is fucked now, it had at least as much negative impact as WW2 had positive on us
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>>133867965
to be fair France should be the only other country in got tier with us just because muh EMPIRE.
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>>133867808

Yes. But... they were out of the control of the somewhat "Frankish" Kings of Paris. The state of France comes from Paris and Ille de France, not Normandy or Angers.

Those were local lords trying (it seems to me) to carve a country of their own. Only later did they become assimilated into France.

Am I right?
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>>133867911
Christ this was cringeworthy
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Canadian soldiers are god tier, just recently a Canadian child killed an American soldier in the battlefield... When this kid returned to Canada he was hailed a hero and rewarded with 10 million dollars for the act of defeating the cowardly American.
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>>133846803
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>>133850923
Wow, you're an idiot
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>>133868856
I never understood this: "USA have violated human rights" therefore Canada has to pay reparations.
WTF???
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>>133846803
UK #1 Yeeeaaahhh :D
England! England! England! Wooo!

I like this thread. I'd say more like China but with less people.
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>>133868856
Canada is the eternal Dick swallower, ads licker of the southern neighbour, you are delusional my boy.
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>>133869899
He's memeing about the terrorists who got paid by Canada I think
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>>133869899
*ass licker
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>>133869248
the whole thing is stupid on so many different levels..

>>133869899
you are not a true leaf
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>>133870445
>you are not a true leaf
Yeah I immigrated to this cuck hole you catch on quick.
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>>133846803
>Italy

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAQHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAQHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAQHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAQHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAQHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAQHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAQHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

10/10
Italians are worse than gypsy scum
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>>133846803
Thanks OP for putting Germany on "God-Tier"
I feel honored that you think so highly of us.
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>>133864456
>orc turks
> 2000 year history !

pick one
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>>133871820
3400 actually
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>>133865755
does this prove albanians are rape babies or that Islam causes retardation
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>>133846803
>Brazil
>never really fought anyone

My brain matter stands activated.
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>roaches
>god tier
Right........
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>>133871946
2000-3400-34.000 , it's just a number right ?
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>>133873427
No it's ancient history.
It's hard to comprehend for you who doesn't know his grandfather
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>>133849040
Thats greece you gigantic turk nigger
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>>133873643
>that many single mothers all the way back to the 80s
Sweden explained
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>>133846803
No Hungary on map. WHY????????
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>>133846803
Why is Argentina decent tier? One of their warships sank in port for Christ's sake
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>>133874351
Maybe just for having the balls to stand up to you, know it wouldnt end well in a million years
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>>133846803
Doesn't matter, all commies must die
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>>133873643
what's that graph got to do with anything about your history you stupid roach, of course I know my grandfather, both of them

>you just prove you're a bunch or crazy larping faggots with no clue of anything much apart from kebab and shitposting

KYS
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>>133867507
Angevins were literally a french dynasty from the south west (basically gauls with close to no germanic admixture unlixe the northerners), normans were french too by the time of Guillaume invasion mostly because there wasn't much scandinavians and the fact that France was literally the biggest population in Europe. Majority of his army was composed of bretons, picards, flemish and there was even some italians in the lot.

By the way reminder that the duchy of Normandy was never conquered, Rollo was actually defeated by the carolingians and they proposed him a land in exchange of his vassalization and to defend the western coast (at that time the gravity center of the frankish empire were around the Rhine and not in Paris.
>>
>>133854486
why are they butthurt ?
>>
>>133846803
What?? We are one of the strongest countries in Europe and would defeat both Poland, Denmark, Norway and Finland at the same time
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>>133848653
So did the French and Australians.
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>>133850822
>he is still mad he couldn't hold on to our bogs
Sorry laddy ;)
>>
>>133850923
>>133850923
What are you talking about? We won nearly every battle we fought in vietnam? Thats not even taking into consideration the fact that those "unarmedl vietnamese literally were given hundreds of millions of weapons, billions of rounds of ammo, tens of thousands of artilery pieces and millions of shells, along with intel and military intel from the chinese/russians, and alon with homefield advantage they STILL lost nearly every battle they fought
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>>133876347
>What?? We are one of the strongest countries in Europe and would defeat both Poland, Denmark, Norway and Finland at the same time

Shut the fuck up, a dozen chronic alcoholics could take over sweden armed with nothing but broken bottles at this point
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>>133846803
Shouldn't Italy get an a much high placement thanks to pic related?
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>>133849040
so china
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>>133846803
Chinese. Juche is based heavily on racial superiority which is hard when your nation has significant Ukranian, Armenian, Georgian, and Turkish minorities. Also your chart is really fucking retarded.
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>>133846803
>Turkey
Turks are trash. They had to get western soldiers to fill up the ranks of their soldiers and fight their battles for them since Turks were only useful as cannon fodder.
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>>133847021
>America
>39% white
I guess fucking every state in the union isnt in the actual united states then
>>
>>133847021
>Someone posts a chart that is blatantly untrue
>The link in the goddamn pic even specifically disagrees with what the chart says
>People post it as fact
Goddamn /pol/ is stupid.
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>>133877385
Follow the link, it doesn't even agree with the data on that chart.
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>>133877409
Its a shill. Shills have been on here for months with the
>56%
shit
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>>133846803
5/10 troll
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>>133846803
If Gorbachevs reforms didnt meet such opposition then the SU would be like modern china whit a state-capitalistic economy
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>>133874319
tactical_mixtape.webm
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>>133877646
The chart claims 39% that isn't even correct by the shill logic. However the real issue is that I saw that posted as the OP in a thread like a week ago, a thread that got 300+ replies. Literally nobody bothered to check the source, they just assumed OP was a shill or took OP as validating their fears of America not being white or validating their hatred of Americans.

It illustrates that you can claim fucking anything on /pol/ and nobody will oppose your facts, they will just oppose the quality of your source at most even if your source and claims completely disagree with each other.
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>>133876889
Also fun fact, Napoleon was italian
>inb4 WE WUZ FRENCH N' SHIET
No, check it out.

>>133846803
We destroyed the austrians in WW1, our men were good in WW2 despite the shitty organization.
>>
>America lost the Vietnam War meme
>Vietnam is now americanzed as we speak
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>>133866917
I remember when they got chased out of Lebanon by Hezbollah!
Israel sure can fight some kids with rocks though
>>
>>133878211
>Corsica
>Italy proper

I'm glad to see credit can go to Italy, but it's not really accurate
>>
>>133849040
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>>133878749
Corsica had like one year of french rule when Napoleon was born if I'm not wrong.
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>>133878211
Oh, forgot to mention that Italy was *supposed* to side with Germany in WW1 but chickened out for the obvious winners. An easy victory, they thought they would get.

In WW2 their Navy would've been pretty good if their Air Force was competent. It took Germans to sort them out tactically. The British absolutely shamed them in Africa.
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>>133879145
I don't remember desu, I'm gonna look it up. For what it counts, I hope you're right
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>>133846803

I remember this old ass photo. Literally made by a roach.
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>>133879155
You got it wrong, WW1 had a defensive pact with the Austro Hungarian Empire and Germany, and since the first attacked, Italy did not have to help them. Infact it remained neutral the first few years, it joined the war because they promised various colonies in Africa since we had none.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_of_the_Savoia_Cavalleria_at_Izbushensky

This is a victory for italians in WW2. But you don't see them because "muh weak italians" meme, right?
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>>133879621
>This is a victory for italians in WW2. But you don't see them because "muh weak italians" meme, right?

In fairness, in Second World War by Fuller is where I have gotten most of my technical information. He rips them a new asshole over how easily and simply the British operational planning had overwhelmed large corps of Italians. He is British, so there's that.

Oh my, what's this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_Alliance_(1882)

https://www.britannica.com/event/Triple-Alliance-Europe-1882-1915

A secret alliance? That expired at 1915? The Italians misled the Central powers and waited for a technical termination to betray them?

What the fuck Italy?! Explain yourself Mario
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" Italy sought support against France shortly after it lost North African ambitions to the French. Each member promised mutual support in the event of an attack by any other great power."

My God-Italy even started the alliance, then backed out of it. Italian-Tier is even worse than we thought.
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>>133846803
Italy gets his own Tier. Topkek LMAO
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>>133866743
If we don't have socialist government how betray us to the enemy and lets us fight we can't lose, ask the americans at operation market garden. and we do it before our diner gets cold.
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>>133846803

They'd be more like the Russians actually
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>>133862440
So you fags are really sucking slobbely throbbely logs of shit and the forcefucked andy sixx-meme is true?
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>>133867507
>Normans and French were two different peoples.
>The Angevins were as much "French" as they were "English/British".

Well they're all very much french now, and have been for centuries. This kind of reasoning is retarded and needs to die, it's just like saying the Normans were some apes from Africa at some point, so what's the point?
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>>133881839
please learn to speak english before you post on the internet
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