/debate/ - Has Trump Been a Successful President so far?

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I think for the most part he has successful. He is working on pushing the things he said, within the next year i would expect the wall to be started, healthcare needs to be finished, tax code should be redone, he's been good about immigration would like to see more enforcement

>>133829872
I'm sure he hasn't really made any impact since it's only been a few months.. and most of Obama's laws are still rule of the land...

Right now he can't get shit passed.. we're screwed

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>>133829872
No, because Trump sets unreachable goals so he can reach as far as possible.

>>133829872
He's shitting on the image of the GOP. They're being seen as the party that accepts his moronic monarch and upholds his idiotic decrees.

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>>133829872
Yes.

>>133829872
he stopped hillary from becoming president.

so yeah, pretty successful. Gorsuch and the rest are just gravy

>>133829872

The European media makes him out to be a racist and greedy asshole. Be we know better than to trust the (((media))). Trump is the best thing to happen to America in a long time.

MAGA
MEGA

>>133833492
That would be seen as actual commie propaganda back in the day. That picture implies that democracy and capitalism is basically dead and now the little beaner has to build a new tree.
>Hmm, whats the opposite of a democracy and capitalism?

Brings a despicable taste to my mouth to be quite honest.

Trump needs to overhaul the CIA and set it to work seizing all Jewish and Israeli secret nukes and weapons of mass destruction

also dismantle the Jewish media

and shut down the Jewish Federal Reserve

and kick AIPAC to the curb

and destroy the Jewish State otherwise known as ISIS

and undo some of the Jewish subversion of the west of the last 100 years

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>>133833359
all that stuff is good, but what i would really like to see, and really what i expected more of was for him to fight the elites of the country and end the corruption and collusion between banks, huge multinational corporations, government and the federal reserve.
seems like he has just been a distraction from the real issues so far, and he seems to be doing nothing whatsoever about the kind of corruption with the ruling elite. Whether he would like to do this but is prevented by the powers that be is another story though.

>>133833418
yes its only been 6 months but in that time i still wouldve expected more progress in dismantling the ruling establishment, instead he seems to have embraced it. I cant help but feel that his feuding with the media is only for show to keep people thinking hes an outsider. Sometimes i think maybe its all just a farce, and the media attacked trump because they knew that would make people like him more. i hope not though.

>>133834037
actually you bring up another idea that i think is important, which is the cultural shift that trumps election has caused. Now politics is more receptive to the kind of nationalism that trump employs. When you think about it, trump has done more not as an actual president, but as a figurehead or symbol for the 'movement' so to speak. He has brought up issues that everyone else was ignoring, ie immigration, ethnicity, isolationism. In other words he has shifted the overton window, which is more important than what he has done as a president (so far).

>>133834121
hmm, that image seems pretty optimistic. while the things on that list are good, they arent as good as i really had hoped.
for example a lot of stuff on illegal immigrants, and thats good, but what will he do about the demographic shift that is currently occurring?
also
>national debt reduced by $100b
holly shit, how did he do this? regardless this isnt addressing the problem of the federal reserve and where the debt actually comes from.

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>>133834876
and prevent Jewish Crash or at least have the public know it's Jewish

>>133834859
They are the masters of subtlety.

>>133829872
>information sources
>wikikedia

>>133834282
the propagandized hate for hillary means nothing if trump is barely any better. although i dont think trump is even close to the level hillary was on, i think that now after the dust has settled im realizing maybe trump isnt as good as we thought at the time.

>>133834453
what if the media is playing '4d chess'? what if they dump all this shit on trump because they know that people will believe the opposite?
just a theory.

>>133834859
>democracy and capitalism is basically dead
yeah but this is true, if its not dead its on severe austerity measure. Democracy is no longer what it was supposed to be, instead the people are seen as cattle to be controlled, most of the time the one with the most votes is just the one who the powers that be have been best at convincing is the good goy for them. Also capitalism has passed its use-by date, the machinations of late capitalism including the cultural destruction of society and rampant individualism that divides the people are a real indicator that we need a change (national socialism)

>>133834876
>>133834933 (checked)
he needs to do this, i really think he can if he wants to. but so far this kind of stuff just isnt happening.

>>133835131
t. high school teacher

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"You're going to be tired and sick of winning"

>>133835802
I don't get your "trump isnt as good as we thought' comment.

Every day I am grateful that Hillary is not president, every day when I turn on the news I laugh with joy. How do you want things to be better?

>>133836389
i expected more along the lines of this >>133834876
at this point i dont see trump as hugely better than any other run of the mill republican, sure hes doing a few extra things in terms of illegal immigration, anti-globalism, and trade isolationism but it isnt THAT impressive compared to what i had expected. There havent been any real happenings, so to speak, its just been politics as usual plus a few grains of nationalism

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>>133836068
Sad!

>>133836734
>israel

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>>133829872
we aren't even 200 days in and we're already evaluating?

Only problem is Trump stands outside the status quo while all the GOP in the house/senate are still the RINOs and globalists that were encroached over the years.

>>133838344
you have to admit though, that trump COULD be doing more. he doesnt necessarily need the power of government to be waking americans up to the corrupt systems that are in place. ie the federal reserve
also just because its only been 200 days or so isnt an excuse for the lack of serious change. its not like once another 200 days are past everything will be completely different. hell, at this rate itll just be the same old america.

>>133829872
the only thing Trump has managed to accomplish so far is get some fucking retarded Afghanistan robotic team into the US

>>133833359
Health care IS finished, thanks to the shit for brains in congress. Too bad it's being led by by an inbred Kentuckian.

>>133836662
The best president is one who does not do anything. Trump has been pretty good so far.

Love him as president.

If anyone thought the establishment would let Trump build a wall and ban Muslims without a fight you were delusional. Trump's agenda will be a difficult one to achieve

He is doing good, and i think he will be a good president, but he desperately needs to stop the leaks.

>>133834917
>holly shit
Yup, he is actually doing it.
>https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/search?startMonth=01&startDay=21&startYear=2017&endMonth=07&endDay=06&endYear=2017

>01/20/2017
>$19 947 304 555 212,49

>07/13/2017
>$19 844 765 411 285,25

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>>133829872
MAGA! He has done great things so far:
- Filling the next best swamp with Goldman Sachs, Burger Kings and Exxon cons
- doing family first
- not separating business from presidency
- selling out to Arab money
- trying to sell american start-ups to asian investors
- hallucinating about israel-palestinian peace
- hallucinating about defeating ISIS in 30 days
- stripping 20mio+ americans off welfare to give tax presents to the rich
- make education unaffordable for poor people
- let a turkish gollum's security beat up americans on their own soil
- attacking every news outlet but Fox
- bipolar twitter ranting at 3am
- Trying to undermine rule of law in the US
- locking her u-

>>133833359
they started breaking ground on the wall already

>>133836068
>believing any polls after this election
t. demotwat

>>133845440
im gunna laugh at u retards when the debt ceiling is raised and the debt spikes by 1 trillion