What's wrong with modern architecture?

No soul

>>133829778
nothing, its how time advances old thing has to go so new things can be build.

Such is life.

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I wonder...

>>133829778
Funny thing is that the buildings in Italy aren't even owned by us but by Qatar

Lacks diversity

>>133829778
Glass is good for seeing through and steel is good at holding things up

>>133829778
All looks the same. No demonstration of the countries respective cultures and requires little talent to design. It's like led zep on vinyl as opposed to being blown up at a Selena Gomez concert.

>skyscrapers
Ugly crap constrained by the need to pack as many bodies as possible into a tall, narrow, footprint. Death traps when Achmed strikes, as well.

There is still some interesting things being built when given some horizontal space.

>>133829778
nice cherry-picking.
literally EVERY country in that pic, apart from Japan, is flat as fuck actually. just because there's two banks having their towers standing in some city doesn't mean shit.

>nigeria
lmfao

I don't get why people are so obsessed with preserving "culture". It's all nationalistic jingoism, traditional culture and architecture is what lead to countless wars as different nationalities felt superior to one another. It's no coincidence that right wingers are obsessed with architecture from the 18th and 19 centuries, the peak of colonialism and imperialism where other cultures where viewed as inferior and relentlessly exploited. Modern architecture has the power to put aside our differences and unite the human race as one, not to mention things like fire safety and structural integrity which are vastly improved with modern towers.

>>133829778
Why don't YOU try to engineer a modern skyscraper that doesn't look vaguely rectangular or a smooth curving shape.
Traditional architectural styles only works up to about 10 floors and then all that 'culture' starts creating too much wind resistance, costs too much or literally doesn't hold its own weight.

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>>133830432

>>133829800
This. Nazis designed cities for utility. After WWII several Nazi architects were paperclipped into Allied and Western countries to help their social and scientific programs. That's why London has disgusting fucking tower blocks like Judge Dredd.

They want you to hate your existence and submit your will to the authority of glass and steel.

>>133829954
It's not funny. Most of the real estate in the UK is owned by Dubai.

>>133830432
Lol, I hope every minaret in Londinistan crumbles Achmed.

>>133829778
Looks pretty Apollonian tbqh
Solar principle slayyyyyy
Feminine-telluric elements BTFO

>>133829778
You try making a building without windows.

>>133829954
>>133830681
A large chunk of London's skyscraper line is owned by Qatars investment fund, that's correct

They own a large share of other cities aswell, such as Singapore and Moscow. I don't see it as a necessarily bad thing, they dont have ill intent per se, they just want to diversify their investments for a long-term plan unlike retarded countries such as Saudi Arabia which invests in military

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>>133830432
every day we stray further from god

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>>133830515
And yes, it resembles a stack of take out containers, but at least it look different.

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>>133829778
You literally can't build something that big with anything other than glass and steel.

Read The Fountainhead ffs.

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>scared beta conservatives complaining about modern (efficient and effective) architecture, because it shatters their sense of belonging through culture and history, and without that, they'd be confused men without an identity, as they weren't strong enough construct one for themselves

>>133830432

I know you're baiting but I earnestly hope you die of cancer in a building that's also on fire.

>>133830979
I've been there, it's tasteful. A lot of thought went into the feng shui

>>133829778
Nothing, you have sherry picked your examples. Also form follows function; why do all water drops look the same? idiot.

>>133830515
>Costs too much

That sums up why we have awful towers, good taste is secondary to shekels. In the style of vertical Jewry

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>>133831026
>The Fountainhead

Modern architecure is progress, natural evolution if you will. If you don't like it, don't buy into it, free markets and all. Stormweenies and kekistani faggots need to get out of the past and start embracing the now.

>>133831122
The identity you "constructed" is being an edgy teenager on a czecheslovakian interior decoration forum

>>133831026
>Read The Fountainhead ffs
A book about a literal manchild who would commit terrorist acts because someone decided to class up some shit modernism with a few Greco-Roman touches.

I'll take the Parthenon any day over modernist designs for globalist bankers.

>>133829857
>Its new so its better
Great argument

>>133831309
Modern liberalism is progress, natural evolution if you will. If you don't like it, don't buy into it, free markets and all. Stormweenies and kekistani faggots need to get out of the past and start embracing the now.

>>133829800
FPBP
See one, see them all.

>>133829778
they look alright except for netherlands, what the fuck is that monstrosity

>>133831452
I'd rather be an edgy teenager, than some primitive savage whose entire person revolves around tribal instincts, if it means I at the very least can call myself an individual.

>>133829778
People with shit taste pick the architects.

>>133829778

It's cheaper, more cost effective and it can go high.

There's nothing worse than a brand new building in a mock-traditional fashion.

Skyscrapers are things of utility, there's not a lot you can do with them. That said I think modern architecture peaked in the 20s with Art Deco and went steadily downhill until we hit the Brutalist shitstorm of the 70s

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>>133830979
I like this a lot, looks like cyberpunk evil corporation main base

Meanwhile they want to build shit like this in Warsaw

>>133831747
It's the same bankers and globalists who buy rotten pieces of trash "contemporary art", like Damien Hirst et al, for millions of dollars to signal their warped taste to other elites.

Think about what these glass boxes house: scores of money grubbing bankers, executives, lawyers, and similar parasites. Compare this with the spiritual purpose of a cathedral like Chartres or some ancient ruin and you will really think.

>>133831875
>Brutalist shitstorm of the 70s
As someone who despises all kinds of fashion and superficial advertisement, Brutalism is my favorite architecture, for its emphasis of utility.

You probably know this, but many don't, that Brutalism doesn't necessarily mean concrete. You can build brutalist wood or steel buildings.

I also wish more products were sold in plain brown boxes, just labeled with the an accurate description of the contents.

>>133832039
But that's the same type of shitscraper only a bit more budget-y. Also this "glass is cyberpunk" meme needs to stop.

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>>133831026
>>133831122
>>133831309
>>133831875
are ancaps the new leafs?

>>133832186
Brutalism is not bad to an extent. But it is proven that when built on massive scale it did create something akin to ghetto mentality. It absolutely does mean concrete, stripped one at that.

And I don't know what kind of utility are you talking about, those are large surfaces that serve very little purpose other than to make you feel small, but in a more aesthetic way than socialist realism.

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>>133832186
This just confirms my belief that Germans have become soulless materialists

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>>133832186

Brutalism outside of architecture is good, I agree. But if we're talking about the buildings where people live and work then harsh, utilitarian bricks are soul destroying.

We're tearing down all of the old 70s stuff in the UK because there is a demonstrable link between people living in 70s built high rises and high crime.

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>>133829778
The fact it exists.
Modern architects will be thrown into the ovens alive.

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Modern architecture and the disgusting subhumans known as modern architects are the biggest cancer of traditional cities.
They know that their glass shits are not liked by anyone, especially if it's compared to traditionalist buildings, so they'll do everything to fuck up historical buildings through demolition...

>>133831562
Is it really?

What's the free market value of the Colosseum as opposed to generic skycrapers? Oh right, they don't even come close.

So the ''free market'' is essentially creating worthless copycats that won't last in history nor have any value in the future.

The ''now'' is the death of culture? Then it's the death of progress.

So yeah, modern liberalism is regress, it's not a case that it shows the same regressive traits in other fields.

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Or through fucking up the facade in the name of renovation...

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Or simply through dumbing down the building (demolishing the """nonfunctional""" elements)

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>>133832799
w-what the fuck is that

>>133829778
It's very streamlined with minimal creativity beyond a few arbitrary curves and angles.

It's also very cost effective since everybody using the same materials has allowed those industries to make great advances in their efficiencies and outputs.

TLDR: It's cheap and easy.

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>>133832926
At least you still have part of that building standing. In my hometown cucks demolished a perfectly fine 19th century neogothic townhall, which was one of the first of its kind, to replace it with this brutalist piece of shit

>>133832186
Can you design me a brutalist log cabin?

>>133830432
Because there are no more wars with the triumph of capitalism.

Oh, wait, the fucking ancaps waged war on themselves and paid muslims a trillion years of quarters to take down the biggest symbol of capitalism...

>>133832343
>It absolutely does mean concrete, stripped one at that.
99% of the time, yes. However the first house to ever be called Brutalist was this brick house, with very little concrete.
The expanded meaning of the word is just
exposed building materials, with no attempt at embellishment.

I concede that in modern usage, Brutalism is often synonymous with concrete

>>133833512
I would say most log cabins are Brutalist by nature, but the majority seems to disagree

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Do you have a before pic? I'm in the mood to feel feels today.

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forgot pic,
first house to ever be called Brutalist

>>133831706

>defends philistine brutalist architecture on the Internet
>calls others primitive savages

>>133829778

Jews.

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>>133830515
>Traditional architectural styles only works up to about 10 floors and then all that 'culture' starts creating too much wind resistance, costs too much or literally doesn't hold its own weight.

Ahem.

>>133833812

>built at the height of the Great Depression

No, you can't afford nice buildings anymore, goy!

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>communists are degen-

>>133834148
was never build
it would have been empty
soil wouldn't have allowed it

>>133830432
You 100% right. Not to mention most of the local "culture" is just tryhard bullshit. Unification makes things more practical.

Unless it can be made cool and turned into a product, like Japanese anime or samurai, otherwise no one cares about your stupid culture.

>>133833713
floor level windows ruin it a bit

>>133834148

That thing would have looked all gray, dirty and depressing today. Like everything else built by the commies back then looks today.

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>>133834449
Like this?

>>133830979
I like it.
It seems to pay homage to the country's past while being modern...

Unless they built that in paris or somewhere

>>133834391

How's that Belgrade Waterfront project Abu Dhabi wants to built getting along?

>>133834332
Are you trying to be a parody of a soulless ancap pseudo kike, or are you really this materialist?

>>133834332
Can't wait for the Twin Brony Towers of Ancapism.

>>133829778
It's soulless.

>>133832316
They'll need to ruin a few gets first.

>>133834332
An-capism was a mistake from the beginning
I hope Hans-Hermann Hoppe realizes what he has spawned

>>133834813

Hoppe has turned away from libertarian autism. Even he realises how childish and retarded it is.

>>133834332
Yikes, is that nihilism?

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>>133834604
Is that a particularly important metro station?

The ones in Montreal all look perpetually dirty and have the shittiest 'art' I've ever seen

This one's Monk station, I picked it for the terrible stick-figure statues, other stations I looked at quickly didn't have art visible on their wikipedia pictures

>>133834949
Capitalism and liberalism are both forms of nihilism, so, yeah, you're witnessing hyper-nihilism.

>>133834897
For real?

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>>133835100
Here's Place-Des-Arts

Feel the total lack of beauty

>>133835100
not really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy7j__ldj-U

personally i find it more garish than pretty. but it is interesting kitsch.

>>133835100
this looks good, pretty placement of elements and materials.

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>>133832210
It's the shape of it, not materials they used

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>>133835100
I think it is, but they're literally all like that. The reasoning was that they wanted to build a cathedral for the people, I'm guessing so that their travels to and from work were like a religious experience.

People associate brutalism with Stalinism, but brutalism is wholly a product of capitalism and, in particular, the Marshall Plan.

Here's another metro station, and I'll post a building below.

>>133834148
>communists have bullshit fantasy sketches which will never come to fruition because they can't even feed their own people.

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>>133835100
Also interesting choice of art for that Montreal station.

Here's a building. it's a bit flat for my tastes, but shows the traditional influence.

>>133834640
It's partially a scam (in terms of what's actually being built) and partially a horrible devastation of both the city's visage and the coastline (which wasn't used for anything other than a corrugated train wagons, but still). In terms of architecture Belgrade is becoming more and more like a slum in India or Pakistan - every square foot of public space is being used, quite savegely for shoddy construction that will become a slum in a few decades. Danube/Sava waterfront is a thing of natural beauty and it makes its squandered potential ever more obvious. Basically there will be few fat glass shithouses there, an empty shopping mall, and at this point I'm hoping Abu Dhabi (not sure how much of their real money is invested in this scam) will force the gubmint here to build a fuckhuge mosque. That would actually make the whole thing funny. Like, a golden one with giant green lasers.

>>133835658
Because the West was doing such a great job of feeding itself in the same time period. 8 million dead in America alone.

https://youtu.be/bHw4MMEnmpc

Roger Scruton on why beauty matters. It's pretty good.

>>133829778
Thank god my town has been untouched by those disgusting skyscrapers most of our houses here are still from the 19th century and no skyscraper in sight or "housing" blocks but its overrun with lefties though

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>>133835197
>You're like a little baby, watch this
We managed to create the shittiest and most nonfunctional metro in history

>>133835848

Have some Robert Hughes for good measure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv6LAYWQZj4

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>>133835764
Sarajevo is exactly the same, before Yugoslavia Sarajevo was actually quite a beautiful city, mostly thanks to the Austro-Hungarians but also the Ottomans before that

Once Yugoslavia started building they built commieblocks literally everywhere, and now post-Yugoslavia construction companies can build whatever the fuck they want, there are practically no limitations

Avaz Tower is an abomination of Sarajevo, I believe there are similar highrises in Beograd

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At least the commies under Stalin knew how to build a fucking metro

>>133835197
Wow, that's truly awful. When I was in Montreal as a kid I walked most of the underground walkway (can't remember its name now), so I'm pretty familiar with how everything looked.

I've just always been fascinated by the different philosophies used in American vs. Soviet technology and art. Just compare how the guns or military planes were supposed to function. In Russia it was expected that a user could swap out parts or get his plane off the ground in the worst conditions, while in America it was up to the perfect functioning of the technology in perfect conditions - otherwise you had to get expert help. The Soviet perspective was actually more individualist while the American was bureaucratic and anti-individual.

The same applies to the metro stations, the cathedral atmosphere allows for individual experience while the brutal practicality of capitalist metro stations tend towards a universal non-experience.

>>133830979
I've seen it in person and it's fantastic. Imposing as fuck but graceful at the same time

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>>133829778
boring

>>133829857
new things arent always good. when you understand the reasoning behind why modern buildings are bulit you understand why it all looks so shit. its all about money. half the new builds in my area are going to have to get knocked down because theyre built so quickly and cheaply with no intention to last. now tell me thats better than old architecture that can last for hundreds of years

>>133829778

It's ugly.

>>133835976
Is this accidental or ironically impoverished art?

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Thoughts?

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>>133836026

It's happening all over former Yugoslavia. Most locals actually like these buildings because they see the same kind of the buildings in the American movies they watch. Not realising they are ruining their city centers. Not realising the huge potential their cities have for tourism. Many such cases. Sad.

>>133836418
When you fail to match the Tetris block and you lose the game

>>133836248
Not to mention the skill of the workers involved. The masters will pay them more, but they will also be much more satisfied in their own work.

Buildings like that couldn't even be built today because so few have the skills required. Everything now is just shambled together by a guy in a crane drinking his covfefe.

>>133835107
Do you even know what nihilism means? Poltards seem to be overusing another word, similar to gaslighting.

I'm perfectly happy with my consumerist life, Id rather be a consumer drone rather than a mindless nazi drone

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>>133836099
That was to impress foreign visitors. Stalinist architecture was just as bland as modern. You shouldn't waste time and energy creating beautiful things. That's like stealing from the state!

>>133836026
Yeah, but Belgrade with its lay of the land had the potential to be something resembling current day London, a combination of new and old, and commies had the right idea (in theory) with development of New Belgrade. I don't think you could build skyscrapers around Sarajevo's old center and make it look good, especially on the surrounding hills. In Belgrade, there was a chance to do something with modern architecture but no vision whatsoever. The city itself is particularly ruined when it comes to parks and squares, there are very few public spaces and an incredible amount of filth and neglect all around.

>>133834148
It's the Tower of Babel wit a statue on top. You can't make this shit up.

>>133836495
Exactly, it's a bad omen.

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>>133836487
Don't remind me of that abomination

And yes you are right people think they are more westernised with these buildings not realising the new west is crap

Also, the absolute most of investments coming in are from arab countries, which is worth mentioning because you see the same shit in their own countries

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>>133829778
Canary Wharf is sexy as fuck. All those other buildings need to go.

>>133836533
No, I have no idea what it means. It's just that you lack any individuality or ethical consideration in your push towards an abyss of trinkets. So I made a rough guess...

>>133836418
I really hate pointlessly tall buildings. They tend to stick out like a sore thumb and ruin the landscape

>>133833342
well duh, Philips made Eindhoven

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>>133836540
looks comfy af

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>>133829778

It is the same problem with modern art.
They simply are not beautiful. And beauty serves a special purpose of uplifting the soul above the mundane and profane. Beauty is the language of God, and by scrubbing all traces of it in our built environment, we are muting the divine and transcendent world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc

>>133836540
Foreign visitors in an isolationalist and nationalist city? Sure, genius.

I posted the real reason above. And it's funny that you use capitalist logic to put down communism.

>>133829778
Look like communist blocks.
All look the same.

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>>133836357
Must be ironically impoverished, because they've made one station look -somewhat- neat.
It's still shit. Dust settles on the concrete bars and walls and it can be only cleaned with professional alpinists.

>>133836937
It doesn't actually stick out much when you're there, its in Bangkok and there are dozens of taller buildings nearby.

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>>133836540
Those are post-stalinist commieblocks.
Stalinism was the last based form of architecture.

>>133829778

Globalism. lack of love for identity. Practicality > Beauty.

Globalism and the hardcore right, establishment right and communism both are very cold and dead. Globalism gives a lovely illusion, communism makes everything grey.

>>133829778
Its effective

>made of strong materials
>glass windows so people can see how high they are
>space is properly utilized by not having ceilings 50ft above the floor

What the fuck do you want them to do? Make buildings that look like flags or national icons?

>>133833812
That is Krupp steel, still looking good too.

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>>133836540
Also, these apartment blocks weren't Stalinist. They were built in the 60s. The Brezhnev era was adapting to runaway industrialisation, recovery, and most importantly the stiff competition with America and the Marshall Plan.

Stalinist apartment blocks looked like the photo attached.

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>>133835100
>Is that a particularly important metro station?
No. Stalin thought that
>palaces of the people
means you've got to fancy up places where poor people hang out. So he ordered that all the subways be pimped up.

>>133833812
>literally just the same as the scyscrapers in the OP but with a crown at the top
so unique!

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>>133836540
>That was to impress foreign visitors.
Yeah, that's why it was also impossible for foreigners to visit Commieblock. So that they'd be even more easily impressed.

This is sarcasm, my intellectually-challenged friend.

>>133831026
>All the shit
>Still just ONE monitor

Lots of vaginas popping up:

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>>133831026
>$750 for a fucking stool

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>>133838932

>>133829800

This. FPBP. Modern 'architecture' is soulless as fuck.

>>133838003
that looks nicer than where I live...

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>>133831026

>>133829778
Finance temples, people with money don't value the local traditions.

>>133829954
That is probably part of the problem. Finance has become extremely global, architects therefore takes no risk and go for the lowest common denominator.


Traditional isn't fashionable anymore.

>>133838959
>doesnt realize the fucking BLANKET is twice that.

>>133831026
Holy shit, I guess money can't buy taste.

>>133832799
Communists?

>>133829778
this is eerie. I just had a dream last night and recalled it when I saw your picture + thread name. It was literally about looking at buildings with this new architecture style and somehow correlated to how shitty it is and what is the reasoning behind it

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>>133833708
A small no-name town in the far north, where most people think nobody even lives, had some nice buildings, the mid 20th century happened and suddenly everything had to be "modern"

>>133829778
Glass curtain walling is cheap.

>>133829778

>tfw wanna live in a commie block in russia down the street from an orthodox church that i go to with my qt modest russian waifu.

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>>133829778
tfw yoou come to /pol/ and these threads only to remind yourself how degenerate society is in general, and you punish yourself endlessly for fapping once a week.

>>133836418
I painfully have to admit it looks cool, but how long will the novelty last?

>>133836540
...but that's comfy though...

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>>133842499
What else?

>>133842900
Holy shit that's epic, where is that? Google image search only shows me russian translations

>>133842900
I wonder if there was ever a real tree there

>>133843062
Looks like Rinkeby or Tensta lmao, is that what you call comfy?

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Gonna dump my architecture folder.

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ebin

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these are quite ok.

>>133834332
you're right, there should be no more genders. unification will be better.

lets get rid of different races then too. unification is superior.

different cultures are troublesome. let's unify it.

now that you mention it, 4chan board cultures are too tryhard bullshit. let's merge everything into one gigantic social network.

never mind the impracticality of unification by dictate from third parties, screwing with naturally developed systems with lines thousands of years old. it's just more practical.

and if you disagree, well hen you're just being impractical. you should die, because that would be more practical for everybody. why can't anybody see the joy and perfection of practicality? we should make them.

only then will they understand how selfish, narcissistic, short-sighted and ridiculous they're being!

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Bridge to despair.

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>>133829778
>tfw it's coming to my town

The same jew who did the new WTC will do these beautiful glass shards

>>133843271
Ironic comfy, S.T.A.L.K.E.R comfy.

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Socialism 'n shiet

>>133843217
Somewhere in Kazan

>>133843490
never understood the appeal of libeskind.

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Museum of Transportation. Let's hope they won't fuck this one up.

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not enough flying buttresses

>>133843490
Wow, how traditional nordic and finnish!

>>133837083
>uplifting the soul above the mundane and profane
That's precisely the point of the destruction of it beauty and decoration.

The world religion and philosophy is material and only material. Reverence to the eternal or spiritual runs in direct conflict to global and material society, to consumerism.

>>133829857
Read more

>>133829778
(((They))) invented it, so no region can have their traditional architecture.
In a way to distance people from their native culture and identity.
Nowadays no matter where you go it's the same shit, the same glass buildings, the same food chains, the same fucking shit, no sense of identity.

>>133843645
Holy shit, every single thing is just this absurd vanity project. All this idea of careful planning and you know intelligent design is obviously a complete myth,
It's simply all about projecting your corrupted will on a sovereign land, planting your selfish seed into the ancient grounds.
http://libeskind.com/work/

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>>133843295
This kills a conservative mam

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>>133843645
All of his stuff is literally random shapes slapped together
>wow so random and cool

He's rubbing his hands together as we speak.

>>133829778
Does anyone have the architect that said global communism will wipe out nationalism through their work?

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>>133843645
>>133843920
>>133843963
Was there ever any doubt?

>>133831026
As an an-cap myself, The Fountainhead is... hard to recommend. I don't regret reading it, but I think I would regret it if I'd ever taken it too seriously. It strikes me as the book where Ayn Rand demonstrated the least insight into human nature.

It's not a bad book, but rather than telling people to study it for insight, I want to slap a "remember this is a work of fiction" disclaimer on it.

>>133844268
I like how the buildings go from shitty-floor lever to decent upper levels, and this guy chose to go decent floor level to shitty upper levels
Really makes his building stand out... as an absolute eye-sore

>>133844402
It can't possibly be cheaper to demolish the building and then build a new one in it's place rather than just freshing the old one up? This must be a deliberate move to remove historical buildings

>>133843718
well they are ugly, hard to look at, and pale

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Last one

>>133844402
I was in Budapest a while back and it seemed like the commies did a lot of damage andd built a lot of commieblocks in the suburbs. There were a lot of beautiful building still, but it seemed like a bit of a mishmash.

Are the (post)modernists worse?

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One of the new stations of our new metro line. Work in progress

>>133844552
aren't most of hungarian anon photos ww2 damage?

>>133844552
Keeping the spirit of a people alive is the communists worst enemy so, yes, in this case it would be more "expensive" with preservation.

>>133843413
Maybe the globalists got sick of having their taste in architecture BTFO and wanted to martyr some of the brainless boxes they keep their drones in.

Got rid of a lot of incriminating evidence, too.

>>133830432
so fake
end yourself

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Donald Trump sees nothing wrong with modern architecture.

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>>133845399

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>>133833812
The twin towers, even if modern, were imo an important part of the manhattan skyline.
Back in the 90s, you could show a postcard, and anyone could tell "yep, this is New York".

Old new york is changing, and very fast... a shame really. It is turning into a faceless city that could be anywhere.

I don't know if I even want to visit nyc anymore

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This is what they did in my hometown..

>>133834332
>Unless it can be made cool and turned into a product, like Japanese anime or samurai
Thank you for the irl kek

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>>133844552
Building on the right got liberated by the soviet artillery pretty badly, but building on the right could've been saved.
Most of the post-WWII demolitions were politically motivated
>>133844639
According to an urban legend, the commies built the commieblocks in the suburbs in a way that they force a circle around the city, which could be used as a defensive line if the city got besieged again in WWIII.
Postmodern architecture pretty much ended with the re-election of Fidesz in 2010. Architects are pressured by city councils to build buildings in a simpler way (crazy shaped buildings are basically a no-no).
The government mostly supports historical reconstructions

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>>133845632
New York has changed for a long time and the Twin Towers were part of that cancerous change

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>>133843295
Holy shit

>>133829971
/thread

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>>133844811
The mayor of Budapest was a commie sympathizing jew after WWII. I think 28% of the buildings got demolished under his command, even though only 4% of the city's buildings got completely destroyed, and 7% was beyond repair.
And these are just the demolished buildings. Most buildings got a simpler facade, not to mention the communist jihad against the city's domes and cupolas.
The reds basically scalped most of the city.

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Skyscrapers are boring and provoke raffic jams. Even if they look ok from afar, at close range they are shit.

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>>133843295
I remember reading about that, enough money to support millions of mudslimes, not enough to preserve their culture

>>133844007
That's the good thing about 40 years of communism in Eastern Germany for instance. Nobody cared for old residential buildings (not in the city center) or had money to restore them. So 1990 everything looked like the top picture and today whole city blocks shine in bright newly restored facades like the bottom picture.

>>133846262
This is another reason why I hate commies. They literally destroy refined culture.

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>>133846570
True, but those socialist WBS70 block sins are clustered with old buildings often, even in the historic city parts (Cottbus or Leipzig for example)

>>133834813
Hoppe tried to reform ancapism by adding white nationalsm to the mix. Hoppe wrote positive things about monarchy, saying it was better than democracy; and he was a member of a club that preserved the UK royal family's gardens. I'm sure he would be triggered by these pics.

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>>133846870
You are right (I'm from Leipzig btw and know very well what you mean)
Still I think it's a lot better than what went on in western german city centers. Every one of them is a complete mess of post-WWII concrete soulless consumerism architecture. Worst examples may be Cologne and Nuremberg (pic related)

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>>133846711
Could've been worse.
There were plans to:
>demolish the Buda castle and build a modern apartment building for the workers instead
>Demolish Heroes' Square, since it's too nationalistic
>Demolish the "strangling" historical inner city and build a boulevard with a Stalinist skyscraper instead
>Build apartments for workers on top of the National Cemetery, since remembering people from the previous era is too nationalistic (2 parcels still got fucked up though. One is now a soviet military cemetery and one is occupied by the monument to internationalist brigades)
>Instead of repairing, demolish THE ENTIRE CITY (!!!), and build a new city with US-style high-rise residental buildings

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>>133846870
Watch this, Hans.

>>133830619
Except that Nazis based their architecture on the ancient Romans, your utility meme is bullshit.

>>133847657
jesus fucking christ

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>>133847800
It's true though, Nazis were incredibly materialistic , Hitler himself said he prefers function over form

The Nazis plan for Berlin looks really dystopic

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https://youtu.be/GapUEKYLE1o

>>133847657
Nice.

>>133843823
>consumerism.
Absolutely.

The worship of the material world is also linked to the rise of communism, egalitarianism, and any leftist political movement. They share a common belief that, because there is no God, no afterlife and no ultimate justice, the state is viewed as the provider and answer to all wordy ills and wants. Just believe in it hard enough and government GOD will solve all problems. Except for death of course. But after we die, why should we care about what happens to this world, they say.

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>>133847888
People call them "Hanseatic commieblocks".
I think it pretty silly, but plans to restore pre-war city centre died after sanctions, despite there was pretty solid contacts with German companies.
I guess it better than nothing.

>>133829778
Traditional architecture doesn't fucking work at modern skyscraper scales. The entire building has to be sleek and flexible like a blade of grass in the wind or it breaks. Any ornamentation you add is a risk of getting ripped off by wind, or flex/shear forces within the building itself, and becoming a deadly weapon to whatever it falls on. This includes stone, brick, tile, wood, and basically anything that isn't steel, glass, or concrete.

>>133847800
they made ornaments referencing rome, but build modern architecture
soviets did the same with socialist realism

>>133834148
They destroyed my pic and didn't even build your pic
>fuck communism

>>133848391
commieblocks, if clean, would be much better

i mean this shit looks like unintended postmodernism

>>133847523
To be fair, there was hardly any building left standing in those cites after WWII.
If all buildings were restored like the few that were relatively unbombed those cities could reach entirely new levels of comfy. Unfortunately, there was a distinct lack of money right after the war so we're left with those crappy blocks of concrete.

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>>133848439
>Traditional architecture doesn't fucking work at modern skyscraper scales.
Yes it does, you fucking modernist shill.

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>>133848014
Don't post such bullshit modern "recreations" of Nazi plans that have nothing in common with the real thing. There is even the Fernsehturm inserted, a buildung wich was build by the communists in the 70s.

The real Nazi plan was pic related

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>>133831026

>>133848951
The plan was still centered around cities being machines and not human places where people live and sleep.

Monarchism is the best

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>>133848802
not the greatest example though

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>>133848439
>>133848802

>>133848697
Well, now it super popular to nostalgize about 'Old Konigsberg', despite no one expect one and a half german tourists remember it.
And because German companies, who can do it properly, refuse to work with us, local goverment desided that this will be good idea.

function instead of form rather then function AND form

something as big as a skyscraper should look good to boost morale, and help people feel proud of where they are living or in awe of the city they're visiting. a great looking building elevates mood and makes people feel good looking at it.

this is another reason to make dull looking buildings, if you hate people and want to crush them psychologically with looming blocks of glass that blot out the sun.

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>>133848802
>>133849321
Too bad the Singer Building was destroyed. It was quite a nice example.

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>>133849588
Singer was beautiful. You know what's there now? If you don't I can tell you and you'd already know what it looks like - a metal and glass box.

>>133836540
>Stalinist architecture was just as bland as modern

subhuman burger detected

>>133833342
Brutalist doesn't mean concrete or ugly. That isn't brutalist.
It is fucking hideous, though.

>>133838608

commieblock is a post-stalin thing, my retarded friend

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>>133843142
What a bunch of fuckers;


KILL ALL COMMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>133829778
Liberals love diversity, do any of you see diversity represented in the OP's pic? I don't. Those could all be in the same city somewhere and if they weren't labeled you would never know.
I've noticed the same thing with mall areas. It's all exactly the same everywhere. Same stores, same restaurants, same buildings, same roads, same set up same soulless crap everywhere you go and everywhere you look.

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>>133848951
>not using a gird plan

>>133848951
Looks a bit like some parts of Paris but in bigger and more arrogant

>>133850694
what is inside of this building?

>>133848014
Doesn't look dystopic to me

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>>133850988
>paris

>>133851066
Today? There was a store on the bottom floor. A Walgreens, I think. It was there in the 90s and early 2000s. Today it's empty and you can't enter it. Originally the NY Times (hence Time's Square) and, as you can see, Allied Chemical.
Times sold it shortly after building it.

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Even the Japanese are making attempts to restore Meiji architecture.

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>>133848014
How is that dystopic? This is dystopic.

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>>133851415
It's a giant factory as opposed to a city that cherish it's culture and history. There is proper German/Austrian architecture and none of it can be seen in that plan

Pic related Dresden christmas market

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>>133835100
I present to you, Washington DC

>>133829971
this.

>>133829800
Nah it had soul back when it was the first of its kind. But every country copied off of NYC in an attempt to be relevant.

>>133851066
mcdonald's

>>133851867
I mean you can have that and also have aesthetics. It's just a sketch.The entire fucking city can't be markets & monuments & parks though.

>>133851869
Glorious

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>>133852138
No ofcourse but for me it just looks like an attempt to be the next Rome as opposed to the capital of GERMANY, it's way too grandesque and bizarre

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>>133835100
>>133851951
The ugliest subway stations in the world award goes to Boston. There's simply no parallel. I'm not even sure how it still runs.

>>133852375
Beautiful

>>133852359
>it's way too grandesque and bizarre
That's fascism for you. Edgy LARPers thinking they are the new Romans.

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>>133848951
>>133851241
>>133851415

This >>133848014 is incredibly shitty architecture because it only looks good on a map.
The scale of that nazi-crap is in no realtion to the human being, who is supposed to live there.

Good architecture and urban planning scales everything to the human.
A street should be no wider than the distance at which you can regocnize a face, for example.

>pic related - how a town square should look like

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>>133852359
I like personally, but. Y'know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuagas1riHM

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Buildings have strict guidelines now

back in the day a building taking 8 years was normal so nobody gave a shit

nowadays Shlomo Kikestein wants his offices fabricated within 18 months, So it's just what comes with the speed. Easy to construct and doesn't look disgusting.

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What about pic related.
At least it's different. It's not finished though.

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>>133852782
Completly agreed, I wish to add that to my critique of the Nazi plan aswell, I couldn't quite put it in words the way you did though

Making beautiful towns/cities shouldn't be that hard when you have that in mind. Village/town squares are the comfiest things in life

>>133831488
>>its cheaper, faster to build, more resistant, has a batter isolation, has more space inside, harder to burn etc
>gret argument urr durr
please buy yourself a common sense.

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>>133853279
I like the theater.
(Rendering).

>>133853279
What is it?

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>>133853279
>Apple HQ
>ring
If you're going to build a large ring, you might as well build it in a place where it's necessary for functionality. Like pic related. Might be able to put some of that $100B in savings to use as well.

>>133853279
It's nothing special other than being huge and a funny shape.

>>133853279
It is different. Getting a dildo when ordering a new shirt online is also different

>>133853279
looks cool but i bet they won't use at all the space inside the ring and it will end up being completely impractical design
that's apple after all

>>133853279
It looks like modernistic Marxism HQ

>>133853503
Apple campus being built.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwxQnI98CKw
>>133853674
I forgot the story, however it was something about Steve jobs wanting people to meet and chat and get new ideas. The Pixar campus he was involved with had the same idea behind it, iirc. People having more chances to meet each other and get ideas.

Is there any coincidence that style of architecture was pushed entirely by Jews and Soviets?

Even modern art was the result of Jewish art dealers trying to make a good buck

>>133844222
I never get it, why should I expect Holocaust survivors to create beautiful art? Why should Libeskinde design beautiful buildings, why should Adorno write traditionalist philosophy, why should Stockhausen compose beautiful marches?
I mean, if you get in a camp, or if you had people you loved dying in there, I'd say that that resentmt becomes justified. We don't have to support it, but we can at least se where it is coming from.

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>>133853838
I think the road entrance looks cool... or it will when there's all the trees and grass.

>>133843295
>>133846556
Detail about this? What happened?

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>>133853338

Absofuckinglutely.

It does not even have to be in a small town. Large cities can achieve that too.
>Pic related: 250.000 inhabitants and still comfy as fuck

>>133853279
Look like a defensive fort for when shit goes down

>>133854185
France demolished yet another church (over 1000 are planned to be sold/demolished). You can read a lot about it online if you're really interested about it

>>133853838
It's interesting

>>133854185
Some 19th century church building, built in neo-gothic style, got torn down some years ago in france.

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>>133854378
: )
Check out the renderings if you want to see how it should look when finished. There are many around.

>>133850827
Grid plans are shit. They don't have any life

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>>133854378
>>133854724
Also many inside ones.

>>133836210
While somewhat true this doesn't read into the entire story as to why American stuff was built the way it was. American doctrine operated under the assumption that any conflict with the Soviets was going to become a nuclear contest almost immediately. Having some shitbox that you can repair endlessly by salvaging motors from your lawn mower is pointless. The war would already be concluded after a month or more of conflict. The idea was to package as much capability into the air frame for it's singular month of total war before it was either nuked or blown out of the sky. If it wasn't conflict with the Soviets then you would have a perfect supply chain and having an expensive machine pays off since any repairs can be done in safety.

For that matter, most American planes from the Cold War are still operational unlike their Soviet counterparts. B-52 are still flying as are A-10 and some of the older F series. F-14 was only sidelined in the mid 2000s. Most Soviet shitboxes were scrapped because they were made terribly to begin with.

>>133853838
>
>>133854174
>>133854724
>>133854882

Stop shilling ur modernist soulless shit faggot

>>133854724
I wonder how much water they're going to have to import for that.

>>133854724
bleh.
Pathetically plain simplified, just like American education

>>133829959
This

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I like some Modernist architecture -- mainly Usonian, with regards to residential -- and there are some interesting Modernist skyscrapers, but by and large, it's soulless. Glass and steel: the "machine."

It's clean and everything, but it's also sterile.

>>133853279
gay

>>133855115
Was wandering so too. They said the plants were native, and there were water rentention mechanism or something, but things that fountain/pond looks massive for example.

>>133847523
This is the one that hurts me the most, for some reason. There's so much space there to be turned into a beautiful public space.
You could very easily put in some flower beds, a fountain, a row of trees, and have a space where people would meet, congregate, eat their lunch and talk.
But no, beauty isn't in the modern budget.

>>133855296
It'll be ok if everybody just conserves water in their homes.

>>133854509
Link to story/name of church? Google just reveals a bunch of articles about more getting torn down in the future, nothing about ones that have already been torn down.

>>133829778
someone's been watching Paul Joseph Watson videos Nice try fag

>>133855455
Not sure what you mean but nice digits.

>>133855209
Usonian architecture works because of the smaller scale and the variety of material. It's still appealing to the eye.

>>133855584
>Paul Joseph Watson is the first one to voice his opinion against modern architecture
Uhm no sweetie

>>133855612
It's a joke about California pushing homeowners to conserve water while they subsidize almond farming

>>133837083
>an-cap poster complaining about the degeneration of art

You do realize that it's capitalism that is largely responsible for destroying it right?

>>133855209
The car saves the photo

>>133856047
Oh, right, thanks! I forgot how messed up cali is, for a sec...

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>>133851066
The ground floor is in use. The Upper floors are empty because those billboards are more profitable than renting them out.

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