Based Churchill thread

>>133809536
Churchill wanted war. Hitler tried to avoid it

>>133809536
I blame his American mother.

>>133809536
He was an alcoholic, a gambler and an incompetent fuck as displayed in Gallipoli.

>>133810029
She's the reason he was so based. Undercover YANK
>>133810127
And a hero who redeemed himself. You really think the world would be better with nazis at the helm?

>>133810449
>You really think the world would be better with nazis at the helm?
You really think there would be any non-whites in the West if they were?

>>133810657
>You really think there would be any non-whites in the West if they were?
It wouldn't matter. It would be a 100% white west, but not one worth living in.

>>133810449
My country would be twice bigger so yes

>>133810814
Why is that?

>>133810829
You're not relevant
>>133810886
Because the nazis were evil, whether you want to hear or not. They murdered millions without cause, they started a war for no good reason, and they did not believe in human rights. A discussion like this one would be impossible

>>133811266
Neither are you in European affairs

>>133811266
You have to be baiting... Have a good day

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>thereby saving Europe from the falling into a new dark age
Did he really?

>>133809536
>Churchill saved Europe
>his country would be a Soviet state if not for US intervention in Europe

He was a Jewish-controlled warmonger.

Still one of the greatest men of the 20th century.

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>>133811775
Nice clown flag
>>133811803
Yes. Or he at least postponed its destruction for a few decades
>>133811979
Absolutely wrong. He fought for what he believed in. He was ready to give his life.

>>133809907
You are not serious. How is invading every country around you avoiding war? All the power players always want war. There are no sides it's all an illusion for the rich and powerful to get more rich and powerful. And to quote Churchill him self "wars are not fought on the front lines, they are fought behind closed doors, with the swipe of a pen and the cost of lives" war machine is the biggest money maker going! Always will be.

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>>133811266
>They murdered millions without cause
surely even you don't believe this

>>133812244
Britain tried for several years to appease HItler and avert war.
>>133812402
Of course I do. And I have evidence to support this position.

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>>133812614
>Of course I do. And I have evidence to support this position.
there is no direct evidence to support that assertion. there is no document that claims "and then we did such and such - without cause, even!". i'd love to see what you believe counts as evidence though, so please continue.

>>133812614
No shit in those several years he invaded every country surrounding him, never used his allies to his advantage. Because he wanted to keep them on the back burner appease the then invade them too. The guy was fucked. If he truly wNted to be a civic nationalist he should have stopped at the easer bloc and left it at that. Fuck he wrote about war in mein kampf. It's all he wanted after world war 1. He thought Germany was humiliated and wanted revenge. You guys are fucked. That's all he did for most his life is build a massive war machine.. he ran for the he party several times before getting a stronghold.

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>>133812614
What a coincidence. I have evidence too. If you deny it you are a nazi.

>>133809536
Revisionism.jpg

>>133811954
Also it was Churchill who got America involved. He fought with Roosevelt for years to not just fund but fight. They wouldn't until pearl harbour.

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>>133812942
>ere is no direct evidence to support that assertion. there is no document that claims "and then we did such and such - without cause, even!"
We know for a fact that the British tried to appease Hitler. He had every chance to prevent war.
>>133813058
>one man lies
>therefore they were all liars
lel
>>133813010
good post

>>133809536

enjoy the real holocaust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbp61fOVFaE

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>>133813357
>One
Make it two.

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>>133813474
Three.

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>>133813357
>We know for a fact that the British tried to appease Hitler. He had every chance to prevent war.
lol are you retarded or looking for a way out? playing stupid? answer for your claims like you said you would faggot.

>>133812402
Everybody murdered millions. Everybody, the Russians murdered there own people for years, so did the Germans so did the Polish, so did the Chinese and the Japs. Holy fuck it was total fuckin war. Not like the wars we see now a day that are isolated to certain countries and a few hundreds thousands die and millions are displaced. Over 70 million people died world wide, and that's a conservative estimate. It changed every country on the planet, and every person was effected. You fucking millennials have no clue how difficult life was. And Hitler fucking started it.

>>133809536
>>133810449
>>133810814
>>133811266
>>133812231
>>133812614
>>133813357

You are evidence the US needs to be rangebanned from starting threads in /pol/

>>133813474
I don't care if you have hundreds. It does nothing whatsoever to refute the mountains of evidence, including conclusive testimony from the nazis themselves.
>>133813552
Chamberlain tried to make deals with HItler. Hitler was a liar and a tyrant, who couldn't be persuaded not to violate every treaty he signed.

>>133812942
http://www.h-ref.de/personen/himmler-heinrich/himmler-posen.ra
Himmlers Speech, 4. October 1943, Posen
"We have the moral right, we even have the duty towards our people, to kill the people that tried to kill our people."
"[...]I mean the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the Jewish people."

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>>133813669
you're missing the most important part of his claim
>without cause
yes dummy, we all know millions upon millions of people died in WW2 - no one is contesting that.

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>>133813669
>Hitler fucking started it.

You're an idiot leaf, I just feel like you should be told that.

You're a faggot for helping the dumbass in this bait thread.

>>133813844
he explicitly explained the cause for their violent course of action, you couldn't have proved my point any better.

>>133813357
I know I had typos, but I'm sorta drunk and on a phone? Are you being sarcastic?

>>133813669
>Hitler started it

Why do brainlets have to grossly oversimplify world events?

>>133813413
Long debunked. Less than .15% of our German pows died, whereas over half of Russian pows held by Germans died

>>133814028
We'll why do you care go to some other bait thread. Fuck off I want to talk about this shit!

>>133813844
Which is it, Schlomo. Were they evacuating the jews or exterminating them?

>>133810127
Came to say this, thanks bud.

>>133814117
I know it's more complicated than that. The treaty of Versailles crippled Germany. But he literally invaded every country around him. Forcefully. quickly and it worked.

>>133812231
>ready to give hundreds of thousands of other cunts' lives
fixed it for you you revisionist fucknuckle

>>133814172
>I want to talk about this
That's kinda my point, instead of helping OP in his faggotry, you could have just started your own, non-pozzed thread.

>>133814306
He retook German clay in Poland and France. What should have been a small, regional war was extended when the British sided with the Russians to attack Germany. Quite odd considering the British justification for war was the German invasion of Poland, an invasion the Soviets took part in as well.

He had absolutely nothing to do with the war in the Pacific Theatre.

>>133810449
The Nazi's won you imbecile, they moved main operations an exotic technologies to Antarctica, hitler fled to argentina like the puppet coward he was, and thru various programs Nazi's infiltrated American infrastructure, ie operation paperclip, taking lead roles in media, and private military industrial complex. All because they threatened to expose what was considered to be the greatest secret (to our so called leaders) the existance of extraterrestrials and extraterrestrial technology( see Washington dc flyover 1951).
Tldr; they did win.

>>133814420
Well I'm drunk on a phone and I have to work in the morning. Plus I don't hate hitler,he had some very good talking points, he just should have quit while he was ahead and listened to his Generals. The world would have been different. But he did some real stupid shit when he had the upper hand. Now Europe is a shithole. And the past affects the future. Plus I suck at staring threads.

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>>133814398
The economic ideas were good, but that is ultimately what caused the allies to declare war on them for and ruin europe.

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>>133814398
>it's only OK to risk your life to kill emus, not globalists

>>133814532
The British sided with the Russians after Hitler betrayed Stalin, his ally and invaded Russia. Only then did Stalin and Britain align. Also Stalin went on to stab Britain on the back and the next 30 years was a Cold War with the west.

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>>133814532
Also, the British and French ad broken the German diplomatic codes in 1937/38 and would have known about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, yet chose to not tell Poland that any action by Germany would be matched by one from Russia.

>>133814689
I don't understand the argument that Hitler is responsible for the current state of Europe. He stood up and fought against this mongrelization and degeneracy. You can hardly blame him for the success of Jewish propaganda after the war.

>quit while he was ahead
He tried to make peace with Britain several times. Russia was always going to invade Europe anyway, the battle with Russia couldn't have been avoided. The optimal outcome would have been for the British to team up with Hitler to fight off Russia.

Instead, (((Churchill))) sided with the Bolsheviks, which ruined Eastern Europe for God knows how long.

>>133814117
It was in his power to stop it. He failed to do so, again and again.

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>>133814842
That is almost the exact opposite of what happened.

>>133814842
This post I sent mostly answered here >>133815082

I would add that the British declaration of war against Germany was effectively an alliance with the Soviets from the very beginning

>>133809536
I would love to have sees Churchill bitch slap trump.

>>133814608
Let me guess the earth is flat too? Fuck off, the Germans were far more advanced in technology in the Begay of the war. And if Hitler wasn't runnning out of manpower, resources and money buy the end of the war, he would have discovered the A bomb before the US did. Instead he sent a huge amount of troops to fight in a Russia n the winter, unprepared. He's not the genius you guys think he is.

>>133815108
How did he have any control over the Pacific Theatre? That half of the war was going to happen regardless.

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>>133814608
To compound on this did you know sr Bush's father prescott Bush was a Nazi? Well now you know. You cannot subvert a natuon of gun owning patriots thru whips, you must dangle a carrot in front of them to be misled, you cannot throw a frog in boiling water and expect it not to jump out you must gradually increase the heat, you picking up what im putting down?

>>133815082
If Russia was always going to invade then why didn't they? He's responsible because if he would have stopped while he had the upper hand, retake Poland, rearm his army and prepare for a defensive action against Russia the world now would be different.

>>133814398
Wrong. He even coached his family not to surrender if ground troops should reach Britain. He told them each to be ready to take at least one German with them.

>>133815541
Churchill was always going to attack Hitler. Churchill was a politician who rode to fame by berating Chamberlain for not bring tough on Hitler. It's absurd that he would every consider siding with Hitler.

If Hitler had stopped after Poland, nothing would have changed. The globalists and their puppet governments would have still ganged up on him.

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>>133815108
Correct. Hitler tried time and time again to make peace with Britain/France, and he failed again and again, because they wanted war at all costs.

>>133812244
>>133815714
We'll that's what I said in my first post. They all want war who,are in power, it makes money, builds alliances, and trade, gains land and power. It's not the wealthy or the politicians who die, it's us, the people.

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>>133815297
No the earth like most planetoids are sphereical in nature, tho some have weird complement shapes or irregularities like phobus ;). But your lack of want for truth is no reason to try and ridicule me for exposing what really should be common knowledge by now.

>>133816024
>Hitler tried time and time again to make peace with Britain/France,
After treaty breaking and doube crossing them. What reason did they have to think it wasn't a strategic move?

>>133816106
I'm not ridiculing, just really don't think they are hiding in Antarctica. Germany thrived under the nazis, why? War.

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>>133816291
Because there exist quotes from before the war began where Churchill, et al, state unambiguously that they will not let Hitler have peace?

>>133816556
Probably because Hitler was saying the same thing. Also money, that's all every war is about, money and power. The rich just get richer.

>>133816556
You know all those rallies Hitler had, and indoctrinating the youth, and building huge milatary comlpex? They weren't singing Kombaya. He was telling them to take back what was once theirs!

>>133816556
Yes, and for good reason. But regardless of those, Churchill was not in office. Chamberlain was, and he offered peace

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>>133816727
>that's all every war is about, money and power. The rich just get richer.
Exactly.
And WW2 in Europe happened because Germany, Italy and Spain got themselves out of the world financial usury system, and the Rothschilds (and others) couldn't bear to see their golden goose fly away.

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>>133816345
Fair enough but could you explain the many visits by so many dignitaries to Antarctica in the past say 2 yrs, pope, president, hell even john kerry day b4 election, not to mention the nazi themselves speak of a "shang ri la" or impenetrable fortress, does your logic not connect these or is it just a yuuge "coincidence" ?
Side note ((they)) seem not to like me speaking on this check my captcha. Its cool glock condition zero sheeeeeeit.

>>133816905
What do you think happened when Churchill got into office. Do you think his aggression towards Germany suddenly changed?

>>133816967
Is thar real? I think all the trips to Antarctica are also about money. The glaciers and ice caps are melting. There are trade routes to be had as well as a completely untapped source of potential oil and minerals. And all the power players want a peice. Plus it's not a war torn shithole like most of the places we get oil from. not everything is a conspiracy theory

>>133817050
>What do you think happened when Churchill got into office. Do you think his aggression towards Germany suddenly changed?
Why do you think he got into office? People were sick of Chamberlain's acquiescence

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>>133816905
Germany wanted the lands it had owned prior to WW1 back, and that the ethnic germanic lands be united. Chamberlain was removed from office specifically because he was OK with that.

>>133817308
At least we agree that British aggression was one of the causes of the war.

>>133817523
>Germany wanted the lands it had owned prior to WW1 bac
And it risked war for them. Dangerous and evil.

>>133817626
>At least we agree that British aggression was one of the causes of the war.
No, I never stated that. Do you need glasses?

>>133816927
>>133816556
I've noticed that the anti-Churchill crowd ALWAYS post fake quotes from Churchill.

They know these are fake quotes, but insist on using them anyway.

I guess that's what's required of being a Nazi, you have to be willing to use false propaganda to sway people to your side.

Utterly pathetic.

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>>133817308
>People
You mean:
(((People)))
FTFY

>>133817644
>And it risked war for them. Dangerous and evil.
This from the nation that has invaded over 50 countries since 1945, for less justification than Germany had!

>>133817684
>Brits vote in a war hawk because they were sick of trying to negotiate peace

Churchill dindu nuffin

>>133817940
>This from the nation that has invaded over 50 countries since 1945
Does nothing to justify Hitler's evil. Last response until you show your flag.

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>>133817837
Why do you hide your flag, Schlomo?

>>133817837
>fake quotes
Sure thing buddy, whatever you say. :^)

In "The Gathering Storm" Churchill writes (in Chapter 20, The Soviet Enigma):

>From the moment when Molotov became Foreign Commissar, he pursued a policy of an arrangement with Germany at the expense of Poland. It was not very long before the French became aware of this. There is a remarkable dispatch by the French Ambassador in Berlin, dated May 7 [1939], published in the French Yellow Book, which states that on his secret information he was sure that a Fourth Partition of Poland was to be the basis of the German-Russian rapprochement.

Churchill goes on in that chapter with extensive quotations from Parliament's debate on May 19 [1939] directly addressing the need to form a binding mutual-defense pact with the Soviet Union before Germany did, in order to secure British and French interests in Eastern Europe, in regards to both Poland and Rumania. Both his own and Lloyd George's words are featured prominently.

To conclude the chapter, Churchill notes that, following Molotov's speech on May 19th in rebuttal to Chamberlain's speech in the House of Commons earlier that day:

>.... All four countries [Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania] now refused [an offer of mutual defense and support from the Soviet Union against German aggression], and perhaps in their terror would for a long time have refused, such a condition [the Soviet demand for a guarantee from all its Eastern European neighbours]. Finland and Estonia even asserted that they would consider such a guarantee extended to them without their consent as an act of aggression. On that same day, May 31, Estonia and Latvia signed non-aggression pacts with Germany. ....

Lets not forget FDR's campaign to incite war in Europe.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_weber.html

>>133818112
>>Brits vote in a war hawk

lmao

Fucking hell, this is the historical knowledge /pol/ has. Absolutely laughable.

>>133809536
>intolerable tyrant and murderous madman
Fake history.
>>133809536
>saving Europe from the falling into a new dark age
Tell that to the Polacks and the rest of eastern Europe. Britain really threw them under the bus.

>>133812244
Britain had no reason to fight a war over Poland. The Brits should have minded their own business.

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>>133818160
>literally has a faggot for a flag
Hey there, good looking...

>>133813761
>>133813761
>I don't care if you have hundreds. It does nothing whatsoever to refute the mountains of evidence, including conclusive testimony from the nazis themselves.
>I'm going to ignore any evidence which doesn't fit the constructed narrative I believe in.

This stuff matters because it casts a shadow of doubt on all the claims. 1 lie is someone trying to cash in...2 is a bookclub and 3 is an industry. But what do you think when there's dozens? Or hundreds? What if there's MORE bullshit evidence than "real"? At what point do you change your mind?
The truth isn't a weighable quantity. You can't win an argument against truth with a ton of "evidence" to tip the scales (and, for your info...single, uncorroborated testimony is regarded as a rather weak form of proof, as is evidence extracted under torture).
There may well be thousands of horror stories coming out of the camps. Given human nature towards storytelling and dramatization I'd be surprised if there weren't. But but how many of them independently back each other on the fine details?
Because those, and only those, are to be believed outright without suspicion. The stories where the teller got the details right even thought they couldn't possibly have guessed them.
This is how investigation is carried out. Not by vested interests hiding contrary storylines, and not by half-educated faggots larping on a polynesian luau songbook forum.

I personally blame Chamberlain for British involvement. He was very pro-France, and ultimately decided to side with them and defend the independence of Poland.

Hilter admired the British, and saw their EMpire to base his own German from. He saw the British race as an ancestor of the supreme Aryan race, and pushed for an alliance, or even a non-aggression treaty with them.

>>133818160
>Sure thing buddy, whatever you say. :^)

Yes, it is what I say.

In this post:
>>133816927

You post a picture with the following:

>“You must understand that this war is not against Hitler or National Socialism, but against the strength of the German people, which is to be smashed once and for all, regardless of whether it is in the hands of Hitler or a Jesuit priest.”

This is not found in any of Winston Churchill's writings. It is a pure fabrication, yet you insist on posting it.

In this post:

>>133816556

All of the quotes attributed to Churchill are FALSE.

They constantly circulate the internet, without a source.

Why can't you make a defence for your beloved Nazi's without resorting to lies and propaganda? How can you accuse Churchill os being a stooge whilst simultaneously spreading false propaganda yourself?

Disgraceful, stormweenie.

>>133809536
war mongering criminal desu

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>>133818139
>Last response until you show your flag.
Nah I'm good thanks. If my flag is more important to you than my arguments, then you know you have no ground to stand on. Not to mention the number of posters who are using VPNs or simply studying in other nations makes the flags less than useful.

>Does nothing to justify Hitler's evil.
Okey dokey, Mr. Atrocity supporter.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/25/opinion/americas-shameful-human-rights-record.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala_syphilis_experiment
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guatemala-experiment-idUSTRE6903RZ20101001
https://www.globalpolicy.org/invasion-and-war/atrocities-and-criminal-homicides-.html
http://www.rense.com/general69/tpten.htm
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35944-the-untold-history-of-us-war-crimes
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-23427726
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/war.crimes/US/U.S.Philippines.htm
http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/05/04/the-horrific-american-war-crimes-against-wwii-japan/
http://listverse.com/2013/03/17/10-war-crimes-of-the-us-civil-war/
http://www.alternet.org/story/140137/american_amnesia%3A_we_forget_our_atrocities_almost_as_soon_as_we_commit_them
https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-03-12/5-major-atrocities-us-military-history
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/02/06/a-rare-indictment-of-us-atrocities/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_radiation_experiments
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willowbrook_State_School
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plutonium_Files

>>133818230
>implying I'm wrong

Brits got tired of not launching an offensive against Germany. Chamberlain bungled the minor operation in Norway and got booted from office for it. Brits reacted by putting Churchill in power, Churchill being the main advocate for a full scale war with Germany since 1936.

WW2 could have remained a short-lived regional conflict but for Churchill's hatred for Germany.

>>133818652
This. Everything that went on during that time was documented by all sides. Ww2 was one of the most documented periods in history. It's all there in black and white.

>>133819035
>it's all there in black and white

I can think of 6 gorrilion things that aren't there in black and white.

>>133818504
Does nothing to alter the fact that we've mountains of evidence we have, including testimony.

>>133818336
They knew Hitler's plan was to hold europe itself under his sway

>>133819342
>muh totally not coerced testimony

>>133818652
Churchill was a great believer in "if you can't beat them, join them", as these quotes from an article he wrote shows:

>...This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing...
>...the same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.

from: "Zionism Versus Bolshevism: A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People." article in the Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 8, 1920 by Winston Churchill

... and you have STILL done NOTHING to actually prove that previous quotes from him were "fake", JIDF.

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>>133819035
>It's all there in black and white.
Oy vey!

>>133819470
>The Führer once again expressed his determination to clean up the Jews in Europe pitilessly. There must be no squeamish sentimentalism about it. The Jews have deserved the catastrophe that has now overtaken them. Their destruction will go hand in hand with the destruction of our enemies. We must hasten this process with cold ruthlessness.
Goebbels himself, during the war

>>133819830
Thank God we have this unequivocal evidence from the minister of propaganda. Now we don't have to worry about finding those glaring plot holes in the (((official narrative))).

>>133820079
>Thank God we have this unequivocal evidence from the minister of propaganda
What is your point? That does nothing to damage the credibility of this statement. In fact, it rather adds something to it.

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>>133819830
Except the Nazi intention was to remove the jews from Europe, not simply exterminate them.
There was even the "Madagascar Plan", where they were to be exiled en masse to Madagascar if an agreement could be reached with France, except of course the war intervened and delayed that option. Otherwise why would the nazis encourage jews to emigrate to British Palestine?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

>>133820224
The fact that a speech by the propaganda minister is the "go to" evidence for a "genocide of 6 gorrilion people" makes your position ridiculous.

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>>133820224
Yeah all that first-hand eyewitness testimony by jewish holocaust survivors adds something, alright.

>>133820426
No, it doesn't. Why should he have lied?

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>>133820544
>Propaganda Minister
>Why should he have lied?
Let me guess, CNN only tells the truth to you?

>>133820544
His statement is vague at best. We know that many (((survivors))) last years in camps and that most of the deaths were towards the end of the war. The evidence doesn't support the notion of death camps. Hell, you just have to look at this fraud, who spent 3 years in a "death camp" to see how convoluted and outright dishonest the official narrative is. >>133820761

The most amusing thing is that your beloved Churchill documented the war exceptionally well, yet in all his writings he never once mentions death camps.

>>133812244
>>133818336
One thing you notice about NatSocs is that they will defend Hitlers invasion to death, no matter how much it fucked over the white race.

>>133820761
Why would he lie about exterminating the jews?

>>133820432
>Yeah all that first-hand eyewitness testimony by jewish holocaust survivors adds something, alright.
Yeah, but germans were totally being oppressed by poles right? NatSocs are anti-whites no different than jews.

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If you find the Red Cross report on the camps written BEFORE the Nurenberg trials (the 1946 one) it makes no mention of gas chambers, but repeatedly mentions massive outbreaks of thyphus caused by scarcity of food and medicine caused by the allied bombing.

The 1948 one, written after the Nuremburg trials with the full "assistance" and support of the allies, harps on endlessly about nazi atrocities...

>>133821102
One thing you notice about people who buy in to the globalist/jewish propaganda machine is that they ignore that the white race is actually fucked by the choices that brought it to the current point, and deny that the wiews and philosophies of the nazis, etc, would have prevented that.

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>>133813690
I agree

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>>133821278
>germans were totally being oppressed by poles
Germans living in Poland were getting fucked over, no matter how much you like to pretend otherwise.

>anti-white
Race is more than just skin colour. Otherwise jews would be white too.

>>133821102
>no matter how much it fucked over the white race

I don't understand this argument. It seems like some Trudeau logic: "If you attack the kikes, then the kikes win."

>>133821308
No, NatSocs are anti-whites who invaded Poland for
>muh Danzig
They fucked the white race utterly for their own territorial ambitions.

>>133821469
>Germans living in Poland were getting fucked over, no matter how much you like to pretend otherwise.
NatSocs are the Germanic equivalent of Jews, you're no different than a Neocon living vicariously through Israel.

>>133813669
>Hitler fucking started it

You were correct other than this. He didn't start it and that's an objective fact that cannot be argued against

>>133821111
Why would a man running a government department whose entire existence is manipulating public opinion not make bombastic or exaggerated claims to sway that opinion?

What's the status on that wall, by the way? Has any of it actually been built yet?

>>133820954
Wrong, he mentioned it during the war

>>133821606
>He didn't start it and that's an objective fact that cannot be argued against
Yes he fucking did. It was his call to invade Poland, no amount of NatSoc apologia changes this fact.

>>133821613
I'm not asking for general statements. If such an evil act was so reprehensible to the nazis, why would it make for good propaganda?

>>133821489
>attacking the Polish, white people, was completely justified because innocent germans were being turned in lampshades in Danzig

>>133821619
Source? I can't find anywhere the Eisenhower, despite Gaulle, or Churchill ever mentioned it. Even after the war.

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>>133821518
>>133821566

Germans are not the same as Poles, and neither are the same as Anglo-Saxons or French.

Germany ALREADY had control of Danzig, and there were good reasons at the time for Germany to insist on land access to Danzig.

>>133821619
It's not even in his multi-volume War memoirs.

>>133821730
Do be quiet, and stop larping as a white supremacist or whatever.

>>133821832
>slavs
>white

Is that really the crux of your argument? Hitler "fucked over the white race" by attacking Poland?

>>133821851
that Eisenhower, de Gaulle*

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>>133821799
Example one:
>we want them gone for good!
<Crowd cheers

Example too:
>We're gonna politely ask them to leave.
<crowd throws rotten fruit

Have you never done public speaking before? Do you not know how crowds act?

>>133821851
>The matter is of urgency, as of course, it is not possible to arrest the processes of decay in many cases. In view of this urgency, I have come to the conclusion that eight members of this House and two members of the House of Lords should form a Parliamentary Delegation and should travel out at once to the Supreme Headquarters, where General Eisenhower will make all necessary arrangements for their inspection of the scenes, whether in American or British sectors

This is in reference to the camps in which eisenhower had just set foot

>>133821922
And what right had they to Czechoslovakia?

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>>133821799
I never said they did not persecute the jews, I simply stated that you are wrong about the intent being to slaughter them.

>>133821922
>>133821961
Exhibit A: NatSocs are anti-white trash akin to Jews.

>>133822028
The camps in the American and British sectors weren't death camps though.

Do you have anything that isn't so vague?

>>133822128
Get back to scrubbing toilets, Polanski.

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>>133821102
>MUH HUUWHITE RACE
Kek, Amerimutts who think pan-Europeanism is viable are cancer and have no true identity.

>>133822284
I'm not against ethnic nationalism, but it's funny watching NatSocs scrim when you reveal their true nature as anti-white psuedoJews

>>133822251
Just google. He heard first hand from escaped inmates about auschwitz

>>133809536
>threw away the British empire over his hatred for the Germans

Very based.

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>>133821851
>>133822028

>>133809536
Churchill was the biggest kike lover the world has ever seen.

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>>133822487
So, the people most likely to lie for their own personal benefit and sympathy? Got it.

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>>133822477

"The jew cries out in pain as he stabs you."
... and larpers claim you're anti-white if you refuse to buy into jewish propaganda.

Tell us more about how Hitler fucked over whites, and how Churchill, Stalin, and FDR dindu nuffin.

Make sure you also tell us how the US definitely was NOT a jewish puppet then or now.

>>133822695
You've figured it out it was all a lie. And all if the various witnesses churchill heard from magically lied the same way

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>>133822922
Which ones, because Churchill never wrote that he met any.

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>>133811266
Concentration camps were a British invention, Canada used them in WW1 to lock up Ukrainians, and Brits locked up Boers during the Boer war. Eugenics/sterilisation was fully legalised and government enforced in 1933 in Canada

>>133822922
>And all if the various witnesses churchill heard from
Care to name some that Churchill wrote about.

I'll wait

>>133822487
So, none of the Allied leaders spoke about the very genocide that Hitler is most villanized for? Did it just slip their minds?

Churchill wrote six books on World War 2 and never mentions anything resembling the Holocaust. Why?

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>>133823144
I'm sure it was real in his mind. :^)

>>133823049
>>133823144
>'There is no doubt this is the most horrible crime ever committed in the whole history of the world, and it has been done by scientific machinery by nominally civilised men in the name of a great State and one of the leading races of Europe. It is quite clear that all concerned in this crime who may fall into our hands, including the people who only obeyed orders by carrying out the butcheries, should be put to death after their association with the murders has been proved.'
Churchill on auschwitz during the war

Also, why do you two seem to have the very same responses, nearly verbatim? Are you both getting this trashy revisionism from the same website?

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>>133823360
Where is that quote from, and most importantly:
WHEN WAS IT WRITTEN?

>>133809536
Fuck you, this kike shill is the reason Europe and the world are in such a fucking mess.
SAGED

>>133823504
Churchill's letters during the war, added in appendum to volume 6 of his history of the same

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>>133823573
The six-volume "History of the Second World War" he wrote after WW2?

That's rubbish - not ONCE is the holocaust mentioned in it. Even assuming you have a copy on hand, and it has been reprinted with such an addendum (both of which I doubt) it makes no sense that this is the only mention of the holocaust in such an extensive work.

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>>133809536
It was worth it.
I can finally jerk off to gender binary veterans while their granddaughters get pimped by pakis in to sex slavery and blacked. FUCKING BASED CHURCHILL.

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>>133823874
I just found it online. Apparently it was in a private letter to his Foreign Minister, written in 1944 and added to the second printing of his books.

It's fishy to say the least. But hey, if I knew about "the most horrible crime ever committed in the whole history of the world" the only place I would mention it is in a single private letter. Checks out. Nothing to see here.

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>>133824151
Come on man, the 1948 Red Cross report on the Concentration camps CLEARLY mentions gas chambers, shrunken heads, and human skin lampshades... despite the 1946 one not mentioning any of these and being viciously suppressed since then. All those things CLEARLY happened, despite all evidence having conveniently vanished soon after.

>>133824151
I don't find it odd at all. It would not reflect well on his reputation to confess that he had known all along.

>>133824353
The entire thing is just laughable, to be honest. It's socially acceptable to say that the CIA killed JFK, but if you ask simple questions of the Holocaust you're a nutter. It's quite odd that the truth requires such strong social stigmas against questioning it and even criminal prosecutions.

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>>133824482
>Comically misses the point

Kalifornian?

>>133824482
If he knew all along then why wouldn't he have said anything when he found out? Both sides had massive propaganda arms, surely such information would be useful.

>>133824543
And Eisenhower lied too?

>>133824151
Notice how documents of this correspondence looks so much cleaner, totally different from any other records in the time period. These are some of the ONLY ones that look like this, him talking with a British Zionist who went on to become the first president of Israel.

How that man knew more about what was going on behind enemy lines than the British themselves is a mystery.

>>133824568
I don't know exactly. But any supposed explanation should be more probable than your implication that this consensus among historians, generals, and poloticiabs is mere deception

>>133813552
are you actually that retarded?
google appeasement and the Munich agreement.

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>>133824576
Read what he wrote again with a critical eye. He knew which side his bread was buttered on. Yes, he lied, he said what would benefit him and get him into politics after the war. He did become president, if you recall.

>>133824688
There are jewish eyewitnesses that there were no gaschambers. Consensus means nothing.

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>>133809536
History is written by the victor. The truth is always more complicated.

>WE NEED TO PROTECT EUROPE FROM GOMMUNIST JEWS
>Allies himself with communist jews and invades white countries to kill as many white people as possible
Americans will defend Hitler on this, just like their liberals defend their niggers.

>>133824795
And the soldiers who gave testimony long before ike entered politics?

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>writes an article claiming he knows the Jewish role in communism taking over Russia, killing millions of ethnic Russians, and trying to do the same thing in Hungary, Germany, etc.
>still sides with them

Puppet of the banks.

>>133818146
>yo-you're Jewish
Please come up with a better argument like proving him wrong.

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>>133809536
>Churchill saved something meme
£1 billion in 1947 had the same buying power as £31 billion in 2017.
$1 billion in 1947 had the same buying power as $13 billion in 2017.

USA has 20 trillion debt, that's what we call a successful country in the west, a leader. imagine my shock when USA creates wars and imports refugees. You know what goes around, comes around. The Jews come around German debt to American debt.

>>133818919
Chamberlain advised the king to make Churchill his replacement

>>133824688
Consensus isn't hard to achieve when you criminalize dissent. Historians have never been able to objectively study the issue. The Generals only saw conditions after the supply chains had collapsed, and politicians say whatever people want to hear.

The whole thing fits nicely into the "Hitler was a cartoonish villian" narrative, thus it doesn't receive due scrutiny.

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>>133824915
>the soldiers who gave testimony
Are you referring to the mystery units that in many cases "discovered" concentration camps and proceeded to immediately slaughter the guards?
Funny how in most cases they appear on no allied TO&E, and in a few instances, the soldiers appear to have somewhat semitic features. But I'm certain that that's just a coincidence...

>>133825085
Yes, Chamberlain acted totally of his own volition to have his replacement be the man who spent the last 5 years mocking him.

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>>133824859
>Americans will defend Hitler on this, just like their liberals defend their niggers.

I thought you were talking about Churchill because you just outlined exactly what he did.

The USSR invaded Poland around the same time as Germany, there's only one country France & the UK declared war on for it though. Hint: they didn't declare war on Russia or the USSR.

England and France made a contract to start a war if Germany attacked Poland, but not if the USSR did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Polish_military_alliance

Then shortly after they baited Hitler to attack them by torturing and killing ethnic Germans that were still in their territory. Their kike-controlled governments used this as an excuse to destroy Germany.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSLy5qn7q7c

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VQL2D3uBvSI
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Djk8oqLrrAY

http://jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm

Reminder that France and England were the ones who officially declared war and started the whole thing (and sided with Stalin and his Jew handlers Kaganovich and Ehrenburg) not Germany. They did it because they were a threat to their hegemony over Europe, and a threat to the international finance system.

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>>133825258

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>>133817837
>>133818230
>>133818652
>>133824747
>>133824961
>>133825085
>how to tell if a britcuck is a newfag
youll snap out of the GCSE history-tier churchill grovelling soon enough

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>>133825295

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>>133825302
Come on man, Churchill was awesome, he handed Eurpoe to the global financiers on a silver platter!

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>>133811266
"Because Churchill was evil, whether you want to hear or not, he murdered millions without cause, he started a war for no good reason, and he believed in the spook that is human rights and ignored them in his actions, like the hypocrite he was. A discussion like this would be only possible on an anonymous image board."

>sage this, bait thread

>>133825302
>invades Czechoslovakia
>signs a pact with the soviet union
>invades Poland
> invades Denmark
> invades Norway
>invades the Netherlands
>invades Belgium
>invades Yugoslavia
>helps allies invade Greece
>breaks pact with the soviet union and invades
truly it was the allies who were the war mongers.

>>133826266
>blaming Germany for invading places after Britain started WW2

>>133826420
He invaded the czechs, austrians, and poles before britain declared war

>>133826178
Yes, the discussion is taking place- prime example of the difference between churchill and your beloved bestial hitler

>>133826266
"don't invade Belgium or will go to war"
>invades Belgium
"don't invade Poland or will go to war"
>invades Poland
(although i agree with Mosley it was a dumb thing to go to war over)

>>133809536
Sage goes in the options field

Gott Strafe England

>>133826735
fuck replied to myself
meant for
>>133826420

there will come a time, in the next 10-20 years when every white will regard churchill a villain and Hitler a hero. Normies are vanishing at an alarming rate, with the final nail in the coffin being the dropping of the boomers.

>>133809536
he is based. naziboos cant accept facts and reality unfortunately.

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>>133826266
> hides the Ribbentrop-Molotov agreement from Poland
> encourages Poland to be hostile to Germany, after the death of Pilsudski who Hitler deeply respected and admired
> allies with the Soviets
> Positions troops on the German borders
> initiates economic warfare against Germany
> Sells out Czechoslovakia for no reason
> gets mad that the Austrian people want to join Germany

>>133826619
"discussed to-day how to maneuver the Japanese into the position of firing the first shot."
- Henry L. Stimson, Secretary of War, writing in his diary after a cabinet meeting with FDR on November 25,1941

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>>133826619
You are the best troll of this week i guess. Your rhetoric is almost identical to the ones of modern politicians, when they are shilling about WW2. Congratulations

>sage this

>>133826561
>he invaded austrians
>look at that evil hitler
>they actually invaded each other at the same exact time by having both armies walk across the border simultaneously without fighting
>but that hitler
>>133826735
The only way it can be a war that was worth fighting was if Poland(the reason for war) was actually preserved somehow afterward.

>>133826848
>fuck replied to myself
You are now gay.

>>133809536
>Destroyed the British empire

>>133809907
First post best post

Google David Irwing, fucking mouthbreathers.

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>>133826266
>>invades Czechoslovakia

Emil Hacha, the Czech Head of State, literally invited Hitler to restore order so it wasn't invaded no matter how much the Czechs say it was

>signs a pact with the soviet union
The UK and France also did, even sided with them in the war. France broke the terms of the treaty of Locarno, and made a pact with the USSR to "contain and encircle" Germany

>invades Poland
Germans were being killed in Poland, and Hitler only wanted the free city of Danzig which was effectively controlled by Poland even though it had a German majority population, like a lot of other territories after WW1

>Denmark
The main reason why Germany invaded Western countries is because Britain and France declared war. Almost all of the Sweden's iron went to the port of Narvik in Norway which was essential to Germany, the Allies had plans to attack Norway and Hitler knew this so he did the first move. Same with Denmark, they were trying to prevent Britain from doing it first

>invades Yugoslavia
Commies made a putsch and basically installed a pro-Soviet Government.

>helps allies invade Greece
Mussolini fucked up by just attacking Greece and he lost. As a result, Greece was forced to enter the war and allowed Britain to use Greece as a military base. The end result was the invasion of Greece from preventing Britain to start a "southern front"

>>breaks pact with the soviet union and invades
Stalin invaded Estonia, etc., trying to take Finland and then invaded Rumania stopping 100 miles close of the oil field providing Germany with oil. This tipped Hitler off at the end of 1940, now knowing that with a single order, Stalin could stop all relevant resources from flowing into Germany, meaning the death of National Socialism. So he made plans to invade the USSR, it was preemptive. It still died but the invasion prevented the commies from taking Europe and that they even got half of it is thanks to the US lend lease program

>>133827197
that's what Churchill wanted with operation unthinkable although I'd actually agree that it was a bad idea since it would just end with millions more dead

>>133809536

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>>133811266
cumguzzler retard

>>133809536
>supporting a drunkard
ah /pol/, you never change.