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>>133808970
>National Bolshevik
>Fascism

>>133809510
>not understanding there's no contradiction

>>133809530
Mussolini != Stalin
Use a Fascist axe flag if you want to support it. Don't have a flag with the hammer and sickle.

>>133808970
> Centre-right third way party, multiracialist, meritocracy + economic (neo)liberalism
> Fascist
Nope.

>>133809530
>not realizing the very obvious differences in economic policy and how each system views their people's past (glorying it: Fascism VS Destroying and replacing it :Communism)

Kill yourself

>>133809530
>>133808970
>he doesn't know what fascism is

https://katana17.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/a-squire_s-trial.pdf

Warning this is extremely autistic.
Gives a basic rundown though

>>133809839
actually read the links posted globalist cuck, and learn fascism is different from country to country, because ooh thats right diffferent countries are different
>>133809905
>>133809716
it's a pre-eurasianist flag, it has nothing to do with stalin or mussolini, or rather, it takes the best aspects of each one
actually learn what "national bolshevism" (yes the name is stupid) means cucks

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>>133809839
>Centre-right third way party
That's pretty much a spot on description for fascism

>multiracialist
See pic

>meritocracy
No contradiction with fascism

>economic (neo)liberalism
Literally the only thing that goes against fascism that you mentioned

>>133809839
Center third position is 100% fascist.
Natbol is mid-left

>>133810114
>because we have dirt under our nails we should never wash our hands
That Mussolini quote can be taken in a liberal "Africans are equal to Europeans" context in you are not careful.

>>133808970
Are we gunna meme Farid Khan into the Presidency?

>>133810114
this, and we're talking about Singapore here, yet stormfags want us to make them follow their germanic ways, not what's fit for the people of sg

>>133810036
> fascism is different from country to country
Fascism is fascism.

You need to be a militarist, imperialist, hardcore nationalist anti-democratic one party personality cult doctatorship with a bunch of new man & social order bullshit to even be fascist.

>>133810166
Center third position is 100% fascist.
No. Fascists need to be far right. I guess third position works though, heh. My bad.

All those who want to comment, please read both links to see what I'm talking about, instead of just taking a peek at the wiki page and going full retard

brb

>>133810460
>far right
Well you do have a UN flag which explains how you're so dumb
Fascism doesn't take on an inherent political nor economic system, it uses them instead interchangeably.
Read
>>133809986

>>133810460
>militarist, imperialist, hardcore nationalist anti-democratic one party personality cult doctatorship
That's singapore, de facto even if not de jure.

Except for the "imperialist" part which is pretty hard to be as a city-state surrounded by larger nations.

>>133810536
> Leader uses some lines from Mein Kampf at times.
> Signs of one-party state pressure
That does not a fascist nation make. There are non-fascist one party states etc.

Of course fascists always delude themselves with being some kind of distillation of principles "that makes a nation successful", but they never were.
Various other things that fascists don't generally like such as multicultural economic liberalism actually can apparently help.

>>133808970
Lmao. Singapore is your example? Find a real country that socialism has worked in now.

>>133810460
Wow fuck my attention span is going I am too tired to be up shitposting

>You need to be a militarist, imperialist, hardcore nationalist anti-democratic one party personality cult doctatorship with a bunch of new man & social order bullshit to even be fascist

No that's idiotic you don't need to be imperialistic, "hardcore" nationalist, militarist (though military is important in any society), anti-democratic (fascists are however very critical of especially democratic systems and how fast they can devolve), one-party-centric, personality-cultish, dictatorial, and whatever the fuck you mean by the last two-ish to be fascist.

>>133810654
> Fascism doesn't take on an inherent political [...] system
"Fascism" is explicitly a term for an approximate political system (there always is a little room for deviations with poltitical systems, but at some point you clearly slide onto another description).

Of course it has inherently the properties of the political system it describes.

>>133808970
Singapore isn't fascist. It's a judeo-capitalist hell hole.

>>133811207
Yes, you essentially *need* to be.

Else you're not describing actual fascism but maybe some other kind of right-wing that isn't however fascist.

>>133811279
No, it doesn't have a specific political system in mind.
The whole idea is to use what is perceived as needed and systems must be interchanged to compensate for inevitable degradation.
Like authoritative systems turning to tyranny, republics turning to oligarchy, and democracy turning to mob rule.

>>133811455
>right wing
I stand by what I said, you don't need to have that set of rules to be a fucking fascist.

>>133810953
nope, read first link
>leader has a personality cult around him
>even after he dies, people only talk about him as LKY instead of saying his full name, and say he is to them like a father to a child, so he can't just let them be free to do what they want cause father knows best
>rule a country for 30 years then leave it to your kids
>opposition is purely decorative, even if they get 40% of the votes they still get only 2, 3 seats out of almost 90
>"troublemakers" locked in prison for 30 years so they wouldn't fuck the country up
>anti-commie and anti-socialist
>everyone serves in the armed forces and society is heavily militarized
>strongly nationalistic
>you can disagree and have dissenting opinions, if they're constructive

How clearer do I need to get?

>>133811448
then why does the government own 80% of the housing industry and forbids people to have cats?

>>133808970
Im a fascist but honestly i dont think The Singapore Model could be applied to a broader context. the whole reason it works is because its essentially a city state and its easy to exert large amounts of control on an area that small. I think we would be better looking at Spain or Chile under Pinochet

>>133811524
>No, it doesn't have a specific political system in mind.
Fascism is *explicitly* a description of a set of ideas that form a political system,

You are insanely re-defining terms.

>The whole idea is to use what is perceived as needed and systems must be interchanged to compensate for inevitable degradation.
That describes EVERY damn political system, not just fascism. Yea, the bolshevik communists also thought they'd do "what is needed" to compensate for societal degradation.

And so do random democrats today who want to have, IDK, laws and police against simple theft and robbery and stock manipulations and all that.

Fascism is a more specific thing.

Lee wasn't a fascist, he's kind of like if Hoppe became a benevolent dictator with less ancap shit.

>>133811727
>forbids people to have cats?
Haha what ? whats the reasoning behind this ?

>>133811904
I'm not redefining anything you've sorely misinterpreted fascism for your entire life.

>blah blah blah fascism is specific
No it fucking doesn't.
All your qualifications were wrong.

>>133812121
cat's are sneaky cunts who jump inside other people's homes apparently (they almost all live in buildings)

you get fined for chewing gum, jaywalking and having long hair too

he said this wasn't about any of those things, but about establishing order in society, he has some nice interviews explaining this bs

and some people say it's to piss off muslims (cats are banned, but not dogs)

>>133812044
he even copied the symbol from the British Union of Fascists

>>133811904
fascism is not like communism or liberalism, which have a little bible they can apply everywhere irrespective of circunstances, it's not an universalist rationalist creed
even e-celebs got this right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozamG2ntIgA

>>133811873
>Singapore
>fascist
>Spain
>fascist
>Pinochet
>fascist

Jesus nigger-loving Christ where are you retards coming from?

>>133812438
>Calling anyone else a retard when you dont know the definition of fascism

>>133811641
> leader has a personality cult around him
So has the English Queen and the current US president, who cares.
> rule a country for 30 years then leave it to your kids
Wat. Goh Chok Tong -> Lee Hsien Loong isn't passing on power to kids, is it?
> opposition is purely decorative, even if they get 40% of the votes they still get only 2, 3 seats out of almost 90
You can have a random oligarchic or aristocratic or whatever government where this also is the case
> anti-commie and anti-socialist
Who isn't anti-commie but the far left? And every strongly neo-capitalist meritocracy nation is also anti-socialist to a good degree. Obviously if socialists had some power, you'd not be terribly strongly neo-capitalist
>everyone serves in the armed forces and society is heavily militarized
So does Switzerland and many other nations that are trying to raise SOME kind of deterrence to their much bigger nations. It's what scared people might do. Has happened since before the medieval ages
> you can disagree and have dissenting opinions, if they're constructive
Is that anything special to fascism? If anything, Fascism is one of the forms of government where being constructive might not be enough to protect you.

>>133812328
>you get fined for chewing gum, jaywalking and having long hair too
I knew about those not the cat thing however >>133812328
>and some people say it's to piss off muslims (cats are banned, but not dogs)
that makes sense Singapore is very good on keeping muslims on a tight leash

>>133812560
Not well read on Spain but Chile definitely wasn't fascist.
Pinochet was cool don't get me wrong but he was unfortunately a sell-out.

>>133812121
They also banned chewing bubblegum in public

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>>133810114
>mussolini was a civ nat
>italy cost germany the war
pick two

>>133811873
Yeah, I agree. It's like San Francisco and Oakland's naval yard clumped together with San Francisco's liberal policies trying to regulate everything, which works because it's a city.

>>133812999
Though at least they're not dumb to introduce a $15 minimum wage lol.

>>133812796
Africa and Balkan fronts were ridiculous wastes.
RIP

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>>133812681
>not well read on spain
Then you really have no ground to stand on do you ? Spain was fascist until 1975 when Franco died i believe. Pinochet is debatable i'll give you that and Singapore is unquestionably fascist

>>133812560
I do. None of those places have even been fascist.

>>133813177
Franco was not fascist. He was a conservative and a traitor to his nation.

>>133813202
Falangist Spain, Singapore under LYK and Pinochet is debatable

>>133813279
>franco wasnt fascist
>>>Plebbit

>>133813279
>>133813177
No ground to stand on?
I mean that'd be true if I was arguing with you about Franco sure but anyway fuck
Franco should have joined in WW2 no matter what even without the supplies from Germany.
Could you imagine the kind of turn-around we could have seen with the Spanish making a landing in say North Ireland or Wales?
Or did they not have the naval power to clear the way for such an undertaking?

>>133812328

>you get fined for chewing gum, jaywalking and having long hair too
Selling gum is illegal, but it's fine if you chew gum. Lots of people jaywalk, just don't do it in front of the police. Never heard of people with long hair being fined, I think there was a campaign before 2000 to advise against people getting hippie haircuts, but that was it.

>and some people say it's to piss off muslims (cats are banned, but not dogs)
Also never heard cats being banned, where did you learn this from?

>>133813589
from one of the articles I read about the place. But another person said it was inaccurate

The stuff about haircuts is all over the media in other countries, they thought it was crazy shit

and the jaywalking and gum thing is probably what you told, but some people did tell me it wasnt strictly enforced

>>133813589
Why is your flag Islam-based if most people are Buddhists there, followed by Christians?

>>133813039
LKY explains he doesn't do bs like this because he saw it didn't work in the UK

(he explicitly talks about free healthcare being a dumb idea)

>>133813589
There was that issue recently about cats in hdb flats. They are allowed in private housing though.

>>133813792
>The Singapore Arms and Flag and National Anthem Rules define the flag's composition and the symbolism of its elements: red symbolises "universal brotherhood and equality of man", and white, "pervading and everlasting purity and virtue". The waxing crescent moon "represents a young nation on the ascendant". The five stars "stand for the nation's ideals of democracy, peace, progress, justice and equality".[14][15] During the second half of the 20th century, the star and crescent symbol came to be recognized as a symbol of Islam, and Singapore's flag came to be seen in this context by the nation's Muslim activists.[16] Singapore and Nepal are the only non-Muslim nations to have a crescent moon in their national flags.
>>133813950
dont most of u live in hdb housing?

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>>133809510
>national bolshevism
>not a form of fascism
We're a big umbrella

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>>133808970

Singapore was great in the 80s and 90s, then it was really hardcore fascist. Nowadays we are becoming more authoritarian neo liberal, we even have a faggot parade. Sucks to be living in the decline.

>>133813999
Most, yes.

Why would /pol/ be btfo when /pol/ loves fascism

>>133813999
I hate thinking about this country and then seeing their ugly mudslime symbols, even if it didn't mean that when it started. They should change at least just the crescent moon since they obviously will surpass 'ascended' status seeing as an economy can only get so good on limited land without ever-increasing technology.

>>133814125
>we even have a faggot parade
taiwan-tier

Then again great men are followed by shitty weak bureaucratic leaders

>>133814335
leftypol and sneks, and bait titles help get the thread going

I tried to start a serious thread three times, but the bait one worked

>>133814385
Homosexuality is still illegal but this law is not enforced. The faggot parade is to get rid of this law gay law. Taiwan legalized gay marriage.

We are still much better then them.

>>133814125
Your faggot parade has shit attendence desu
When it gets out of hand, just co-opt sharia, you already have the crescent moon on your flag

>>133814595
Your flag is the only flag I hate more because it's an ugly mudslime-tinged US flag.

>>133814125
australia is going down the same road mate

when thew second fall of Rome happens, atleast we will still have the 4Chan

>>133815490
Except the non-cloudflare servers are not in Australia.

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>>133815672
oh

atleast i will still have my Master Chef AUS

>>133812796
Japan cost Germany the war because Japan got America into it full-scale.

>>133811727
I owned a cat for 7 years in Singapore, dumbass. They just don't allow you to adopt strays.

>>133816274
Were you native born? Why'd you move here?

>>133816274
You either didn't live in HDB or you're a flat-out criminal
http://www.hdb.gov.sg/cs/infoweb/community/neighbourliness/being-a-good-neighbour/keeping-pets

>>133816381
No I am white American. I lived there as an expat.
>>133816536
No, I lived in a house. Why would you want a cat in an HDB?

>>133816831
So why'd you move back, then?

>>133816962
I graduated from high school and went to college

>>133817147
College for 7 years? MBA? PhD? Was it worth it?

>>133817241
Nah we had the cat in Singapore for 7 years since I was 11. He died the year I graduated from high school and now I'm 3 years into a BS in the states. Point is you can own cats in Singapore. Just not in HDBs apparently, but for the same reason most landlords won't let you have pets. If you're in an HDB the govt is effectively your landlord.

>>133817577
Oh, you went to high school in another country. Did you have to get a GED or anything to compensate over here?

>>133816083
Not like Germany would have won in the end
America was playing proxy war long before pearl harbour

>>133817702
There is a bona fide American high school there that I went too. It's pretty big too, 2-300 kids a year.

>>133817941
Swell. Is it actually financed by our public education system, though? Maybe it's accredited by it, but it's not funded, right? I would detest it if it was funded by America because that goes against national interest.

>>133818127
Accredited but not funded by the US. It's expensive as fuck but regulations require employers of expats to pay for school for any dependents. Military/diplomatic kids are paid for and what-not including David Adelman's son who was a class below me.

>>133818734
Oh, sweet. Wish I went to school there. They look better funded than US schools, at least in commiefornia.

>>133813202
>Spain has never been Fascist.

It was Fascist until the 70's retard.

>>133818734
name of the school?

>>133819204
https://www.sas.edu.sg/

It looks better than our schools.

>>133818734
What exactly did your family do for business there?

>>133818891
It was pretty depressing since 1/2 of the students were hyper-achieving Changs and Pajeets whose parents pressured them to death. It got me really fucking well prepared for college though.

>>133819400
Well their main photo looks like it de-prioritizes white children, as a white kid can be seen in the back with shitskins in front of the photo on their website in the tuition page.

>>133819368
That's the school. It's a big tech company, can't say much more.

>>133809839
>Centre-right third way party

That's exactly what fascism is, friend.

>>133819605
That's a pretty accurate representation. There aren't many white kids who go there. It's mainly Chinese and Koreans who want to get their kids into Harvard more easily.

>>133809510
Fascism is just socialism and nationalism combined, national bolshevism just focuses more heavily on organizing the economy under the volk.

Put simply.
>Jews control the banks and companies
>We should have an economy that works for the good of our people
>If we seize complete control of the means of production we can ensure that our economy works for the good of our people and keep the Jews from ever taking over our industry again

>>133819927
Fascism isn't National Socialism. National socialism incorporates fascism without the heavy central planning. You can be fascist and multicultural, as well as with a representative government. Fascism is just the ideology of the economy.

>>133810114
>le Mussolini was pro multiculti meme
I'll say this for the 100th time. The quote is in the context of jews in Italy and Germany's "master race" theory. Hell, the Mussolini government banned an iteration of a fascist song (faccetta nera) because it could be interpreted that soldiers fucked a nigresse and was was strongly frowned upon.
I hate americans who spout memes and have no clue about what they are talking about

>>133820109
>Fascism isn't National Socialism
I never claimed it was, but all forms of fascism involve socialist policies to varying degrees, its an integral part of the third way idea.

>>133820323
>>133819927
>Fascism is just socialism and nationalism combined
>is just socialism and nationalism
>nationalism

>>133820405
Yes, it is nationalism + socialism it doesn't mean all fascism falls under the specific national socialist political ideology.

>>133820516
>it doesn't mean all fascism falls under the specific national socialist political ideology.

>>133820405
>Fascism is just socialism and nationalism combined
>Fascism is
>socialism and nationalism combined

>>133820737
Are you mentally challenged? Yes fascism=socialism+nationalism. National Socialism is a specific ideology you mongoloid.

>>133820516
>>133820737
Also, Singapore is proof that you can have non-nationalist fascism. Foreign corporations and ex-pats all exist there.

>>133821216
Are you?
See >>133821238

>>133821238
Fine then tell me your definition of fascism.

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>>133810036
> "national bolshevism" (yes the name is stupid) means cucks

>>133821373
It's a system of economic reform regarding government regulation of the economy in a reactionary way. It can also mean heavy central planning of the economy, but this form of fascism will fail.

>>133821526
>It can also mean heavy central planning of the economy
So its just socialism.

ZERO POINT SEVEN EIGHT FERTILITY

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>IMPLYING HUMANS CAN OR WILL BREED IN CAPTIVITY
>IMPLYING YOU'RE NOT LOBOTOMIZING THE SPECIES FOR A QUICK BUCK
>IMPLYING THIS IS SUSTAINABLE

SINKIES ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>133821646
But the state doesn't have to be in control of social aspects.

>>133821734
I'm not a fascist though, I'm also a libertarian because I'm principled.

>>133821733
>le birth rate maymay
It's full.

>>133821949
A third of the country are foreigners anyway. They import any talent/labor they need.

>>133809530
nigger fascists respected private property ownership unlike your bloshevik jews

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>>133813950
Nothing seems to have been done about them. A law which isn't enforced is a useless law. A lot of the malays I know adore their cats.
>>133822320
>private property
There's no private property here. Everything is state owned. Any house you buy is only yours for 99 years.

>>133821733
Europe would be lower if not for immigrants having a gorillion kids

>>133822117
But not all get to stay and votr and shit. No le human rigthts meme.

A bunch dont even live inside it and drive from Malaysia every day

>>133823741
Singapore has some socialistic policies in a mixed way obviously. Other types of private property are allowed, besides real estate.