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House defeats bid to block Pentagon funding transgender surgeries

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>House defeats bid to block Pentagon funding transgender surgeries

>The House on Thursday defeated a proposal that would have prevented the Pentagon from funding gender reassignment surgeries for service members.

>The amendment failed in a 209-214 vote, with 24 Republicans voting against it.

>The provision from Rep. Vicky Hartzler was an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act to block the military from paying for gender reassignment surgery or hormone therapy for both service members and their families.

God, I hate conservatives.

>In 2016, then-Defense Secretary Ash Carter ended the ban on transgender people being able to serve openly in the military.

>Carter put in place a process to occur in stages, and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis was facing a July 1 deadline on whether to allow new recruits who were transgender.

>At the urging of the military service leaders, Mattis announced that he was delaying that decision for six months to study the issue further.

This is a SLAP in the face of transgender service members. There shouldn't be a delay. They should be able to serve openly NOW. This discrimination bullshit needs to end.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/13/politics/house-defeats-bid-block-pentagon-transgender-surgeries/index.html
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>>133785961
slide thread

obvious bait
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>>133785961
Trannies in the military? WTF?
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>>133785961
>Republicans whine about not having enough power for 8 years
>get ALL the power in 2016
>sabotage each other
>nothing gets done
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>>133785961
Get the fuck out of here, trannies are by definition a liability in combat and to military readiness in general.
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>>133785961
Remember when she burned down her parents house?
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>>133788504
his, sorry*
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you know, this wasn't a very good thread when it was posted a few days ago, and its still not a good thread now
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One thing I don't understand:

>Obama-era practice of requiring the Pentagon to pay for gender transition surgeries and hormone therapy

Obama enacted this on his own, without Congress, so can Trump not revoke this on his own, without Congress?

Congress doesn't need to defund it, Trump alone has the power. He just hasn't/won't use it.
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In 2015 three of the top ten corporate funders of lgbt issues were biopharmaceutical companies: Gilead Sciences, ViiV Healthcare, and Bristol-Myers Squibb Company
https://www.lgbtfunders.org/reporttypes/tracking-report/

(tela)ViiV is jointly owned by Pfizer. Paul Ryan received almost the most donations from Pfizer, second only to Hillary Clinton.
http://archive.is/H2ukl
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>>133786339
Funny how someone that is depressed is not allowed in the army yet a mentally ill wreck is allowed in?
How the fuck does that work?
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>>133790632
That's quite a redpill
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>>133786339

They're just like you are me, but were born in the wrong bodies. There's no reason they aren't capable of serving.
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>>133791996

They need medication, they have various behavioral issues that affect those around them.

It's no different than banning people with OCD.
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>>133785961
fuckk the pentagon boi im glad that shit is getting shut down soon
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>>133785961

My tax dollars should be used to save Veterans and care for them if ill. I don't want my $423 of taxes a check to go for dick cutting operations.
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>>133785961
Just because we fuck them, doesn't mean we give a fuck about them.
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The Pentagon is likely to spend between $2.4 to $8.4 million annually on the transexual treatment
>expects to pay between $40,000 to $50,000 during the course of a service member's life to treat gender dysphoria.
>*Not including the cost of "tremendous amounts of training on transgender" education and time
>Hormone therapy doesn’t require designated recovery time, but reassignment surgeries require up to 21 days medical leave plus up to 90 days medical disability
>Male-to-female genital surgery, which requires the longest recovery, leaves soldiers nondeployable for 135 days.
http://archive.is/V1jMC
http://archive.is/ak6fC
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>>133785961
whats his name?
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>>133785961
(((Republicans)))
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>>133785961
Picrelated is the reality of trannies.
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>>133786339
Your military is full of them
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Remember when medical conditions that would require tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars, months and months off of work and would automatically give you VA disability for life for a pre-existing condition was considered disqualifying?
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>>133793207
Taxation is theft funding the abuse of mentally ill people.
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>>133785961
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>>133794907
Hormone therapy and sex reassignment surgery covered by Medicare
http://archive.is/KiDm1

Affordable Care Act mandates of health professionals, insurance companies:
>doctors must perform gender transition procedures on children, even when those procedures may be physically and emotionally harmful to the child
>forces virtually all private insurance companies and many employers to cover gender transition procedures or face severe penalties and legal action
>affects “nearly all doctors in the U.S.”
https://www.hhs.gov/civil-rights/for-individuals/section-1557/1557faqs/index.html
http://archive.is/eKxo3
http://archive.is/OOtVl

Even without gonads, HRT is a life-long subscription
>Life-long repeat customers
>1.4 million trannies in the US (and rapidly growing)
http://archive.is/4OoLU
https://archive.is/pdhu3

You Won't Believe How Much It Costs to Be Transgender in America
>Hormone Therapy: $1,500/Year
>Gender Reassignment Surgery: $30,000-Plus
>Breast Augmentation: $5,000-$10,000
>Facial Feminization Surgery: $25,000-$60,000
http://archive.is/3lvaL

Susan's Transgender Forum
>As for the basic cost of HRT, my Estrace (estradiol) pills cost 0.54 $ each, for a total of 32.40 $ per month. My cyproterone (anti-androgen) costs 1.64 $ per pill, for a total of 98.23 $ per month, all that before insurance. So if I didn't have insurance, my HRT would cost me a total of 130.63 $ per month.
http://archive.is/5xxwG

Ask A Poor RedditTranny
>$30/Month ($360/year)
http://archive.is/rzUyS

>HRT a lifelong subscription
>1.4 million transexuals estimated in the US
>a conservative $360 per year x a conservative estimate of 1 million transexuals = potential profit of $360,000,000 per year
And that's just in the US, and not including the costs of surgeries, blood tests, anaesthesia, anti-biotics, non-generic routes, medical leave, etc.
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>>133785961

Fuck off OP, I'm so sick of .00001%of the people in the military and other SJW using the military as a proving ground for justifying every mental disorder and directing what the rest of of have to put up with, you only joined to get free surgery. The only question that should be asked with any new policy is "Will this decision help to win a war and reduce deaths on our side?" of course the answer is FUCK NO!
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>>133785961

You are an faggot
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>>133795172
thats fucking disgusting
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>>133795172
On the one hand, I should probably save this for posting in all other tranny threads.
On the other hand, I don't want to have this shit on my computer.

Decisions, decisions...
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>>133796578
save it onto somebody else's
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>>133796578
Saw it yesterday. Saved it in the SJW folder. It's a keeper, you'll be glad to have it when these morons comes claiming that there's "no normality" and other bullshits about social constructions.
Consider it as zooporn or shit eaters porn. You watch, you gag, you post, for it's efficient to debunk crappy SJW narratives.
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>>133786559
I fucking hate it. But there's no other options.
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>>133794511
Good read. I hope that Jazz girl faggot kills itself and more people notice how fucked up this is
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>>133785961
>Mattis announced that he was delaying that decision for six months
Mad dog being based as usual. Nothing to see here
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>>133785961
BASED conservatives!
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>>133794511
But what about traps that keep their dicks?
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>>133794511
ew it's still up
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>>133785961
LOL this slut has been on /SOC/ looking for cock, she posted her kik too lol
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>>133804858
She's a coal burner though.
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>>133785961
OC
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>>133805029
Can't tell if that's a mask or shitty photoshop.
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>>133785961
Linking directly to CNN, not archive.is to deny them ad money
Hello CNN
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>>133791996

> born in the wrong body

What could this possibly even mean? The statement is prima facie absurd. There is another body that belongs to them? They own it? Like slavery? What the fuck are you even talking about? They have an imaginary body that would be "better" for them? How is this different from anorexia or cutting or a million other forms of self abuse?

Or maybe they are just completely fucked in the head and want to destroy themselves but are too cowardly to commit suicide and too dishonest to seek actual help?
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>>133792764

This. A million fucking times this. NPR is bad enough, but chicks with dicks paid by tax dollars who will be too unstable to be useful in a combat zone? Fuck that forever until it dies.
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>>133800257
Not true, they havent taken away our weapons yet.
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>>133805296
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>>133785961
OP's pic probably has a better personality than most women these days,
I would let him suck my cock
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>>133804724
But really, how is shit like this even legal and why the fuck are taxes paying for it?
If you want this done, fucking go for it. Just don't expect me to contribute.
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>>133785961

Most likely they all got fucked up kids or relatives they've been prepping a career in government.
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>>133806877

Would fucking hammer that asshole until my cock bled.
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>>133785961
Transgenderism is a confirmed mental disorder so you wouldn't be able to sign up anyway faggot.
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>>133785961
Are you saying republicans blocked trannies from getting their surgeries paid for?

Or are you saying republicans blocked each other and now trannies will be allowed to get their surgeries paid for?

Learn to write coherently.
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GOP YES
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>>133791996
>they're just like you & me
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>>133807260
>brainbug.jpg
utterly horrifying
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>>133807698
The second one. 24 Republicans defected to shoot down a bill which would have ended govt funded tranny surgeries.
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>>133795702
>extra people fighting on our side won't help us win a war
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>>133807757
They might look cute in pictures, until you hear them speak and it's either a deep manly voice or annoying high pitched guy pretending to sound female voice.
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>>133807698
are you stupid?
>house defeats bid to block funding
also nice reddit spacing
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>>133808202
>>133808386
why are they so fucking worthless

fucking boomer republicucks
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>>133808216
>divisive elements
>mentally ill elements
>elements constantly demanding special treatment
>constantly unstable elements
>elements requiring special medical care

You don't know shit about unit cohesion or effectiveness.
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>>133792339
basically this, but I am for the Op's post. if they don't want to pay transgendered people's bills they should stop letting transgendered people in. letting them in and serve the country and then not providing them the benefits is spitting on america.

If they want to save money there is plenty wrong with the VA spending they could actually cut down easily.
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>>133808548
and what would you know? You don't even have a real military lol
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>>133791996
WRONG
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>>133785961
cuckservatism needs to fucking die
they do more damage than liberals
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ZERO govt. money should be going towards transgenders, period.

It would be better used just to burn it.
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>>133785961
Trannies belong in asylums, not infantry units.
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>>133808775
There are things that have to be right for the public good.
Unless you think that pedophilia victims also should be capitalized on by castration fear like jones and the alt right does.
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>>133791996
They weren't born into the wrong body, it's a mental illness. We don't allow Schizos into the military, we shouldn't let trannies in either.
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>>133809195
is there really a difference?
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>>133785961
First passable I've ever seen.
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>>133809195
That tranny belongs in a museum
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>>133808740
Seems that neither do you, as it seems that you have rather mentally ill freakshow full of enabling faggots.
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>>133809789
Those are American patriots, show some respect.
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>>133809372
Yes

No rifles and grenades in an asylum
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>>133785961
>sex change surgeries for active military personel
are you sure you want mentally ill people running around with automatic weapons become really suicidal?
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>>133785961
which city is this tranny in?
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>>133809978
asking the real questions
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>>133809884
Fuck them and you, they are a disgrace to the uniform, a national embarrassment. The fact that that picture will last forever makes me want to gas all four of them
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24 traitors need to be swinging from trees
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>>133810120
Well there's no turning back now. Even if you change the laws in 50 years this will never be forgotten. Might as well learn to live and let live.
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>>133790632
yikes. thats fucking wild.
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>>133785961
They should find treatment for mental illness op, not by making it worse.
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>>133810017
but no real answers yet :/
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>>133795172
absolutely degenerate
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>>133790632
>http://archive.is/H2ukl
uh guys did I miss something
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>>133786559
There's a reason they're called KEKSERVATIVES. They all need to be replaced by altrighters asap so that Trump's agenda can be carried out in 2018.
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>>133810611
Just google the text of that post prefixed with "craigslist "

Report back if you find it, thanks
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>>133786559
D vs R = FAKE
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>>133810758
you're in the wrong timeline
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>>133810909
how do I get out this one is sad jeb made us all friend him on facebook
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>>133811064
why leave?
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>>133810831
Nothing
I want a trans qt but will never find one
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>>133810831
>>133810611
>>133810017
Midwest i think but is a coal burner
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>>133795172

I literally came here looking for this.
Thanks anon, I am going to show this to a friend of mine who does not believe me about the procedure.
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>>133811654
That's an awfully big region, care to narrow it down?
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Here's the list of who voted what.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2017/h369
Thankfully I have a good CA congressman who voted yes.
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>>133811654
>coal burner
How do you know?
Plus I guess it doesn't matter, it's a fucking boy anyway it can't have kids. And my dick is big so I'm not worried about her comparing me to a nigger
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>>133809442
thanks for that
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>>133785961
GOP acts like Hillary won.

Traitorous cunts
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>>133795608
I'd invest but this bullshit will crash just like cryptocurrencies when the fad turns annoying for normies and you can no longer get sympathy points for playing dressup.
I plan on jumping in the game when cryptogender therapy arrives 2019.
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>>133794511
suicide seems like a genuinely good decision for this individual
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>>133786339
My mom works for he VA and formerly at military clinic here in Alaska. Says it has gotten bad. Lots of trannies like they are joining just to get free dick chopping
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Imagine how angry you'd be if you wanted yo serve your country but, because of a bunch of bible-beating conservative paper pushers who hide behind desks who think you're mentally ill, you couldn't.

Better yet, Imagine how angry you'd be if you were ALREADY serving in the military, but because of a bunch of bible-beating conservative paper pushers who hide behind desks who think you're mentally ill, you couldn't serve openly and proudly as trans.
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>>133800257
There is a third alternative..
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>>133785961
Nothing wrong with not funding SRS. That surgery is fucked up beyond belief and the suicide rate after completion is unacceptably high. No reason to cut access to hormones. Although if a service man is diagnosed we should probably be discharging him for having mental illness and therefore only have to pay until he is kicked out.

There is no reason to have solders that are not fit, mentally as well as physically.
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>>133811855
Thanks for posting this.
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>>133809385
thats because its actually a woman, it was a troll post.

someone took photos of a real woman and said she was a tranny
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>>133795172
>hurr trans vaginas are just open wounds
>here's the meme picture that proves it

https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-purpose-of-vaginal-dilation-for-trans-women
>Because trans women don’t have the same internal muscular structure that cis women do, the neo-vagina can begin to collapse in on itself and shrink/”heal” closed over time.

http://www.thetransgendercenter.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=75&Itemid=145
>How often do I dilate?
>Week 13 forward - Dilation or intercourse a minimum of once or twice a week for the rest of your life.

And here I thought us trannies were supposed to be the delusional ones.
I know you guys like to pretend you're "redpilled" and know better than the medical community, but do some research of your own once in a while instead of just spouting old memes.
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>>133813439
I can't go to war without my pussy stretcher
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>>133813439
>>Because trans women don’t have the same internal muscular structure that cis women do, the neo-vagina can begin to collapse in on itself and shrink/”heal” closed over time.
so it IS an open wound
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>>133813299
> That surgery is fucked up beyond belief and the suicide rate after completion is unacceptably high.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4261554/
>119 (46.9%) of the patients filled out and returned the questionnaires, at a mean of 5.05 years after surgery (standard deviation 1.61 years, range 1–7 years). 90.2% said their expectations for life as a woman were fulfilled postoperatively. 85.4% saw themselves as women. 61.2% were satisfied, and 26.2% very satisfied, with their outward appearance as a woman; 37.6% were satisfied, and 34.4% very satisfied, with the functional outcome. 65.7% said they were satisfied with their life as it is now.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/804432
>SAN DIEGO, California — Most people who undergo sex-change surgery can have sexual intercourse, but the procedure often comes with complications, a new study shows.
"Most patients are satisfied," study author Maria Helena Palma Sircili, MD, a urologist at the University of San Paulo in Brazil, told Medscape Medical News.
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>>133814193
how many killed themselves
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>>133813705
>so it IS an open wound
Read it again
>Because trans women don’t have the same internal muscular structure that cis women do
In other words, trans women lack the same reproductive organs (aka a uterus) that keep vaginas from closing on themselves. If it was a wound, the neovaginal tissue would replace itself with scar tissue .
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>>133814435
>lack the same reproductive organs
Because they've been unnaturally butchered and experimented with.
It's not supposed to be there, and it's closing itself up. You are trying to thwart your body.
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>>133814250
>how many killed themselves
I'll let the guy claiming that there's an unacceptably high suicide answer that.
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>>133814678
eugenics
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>>133814539
Yes, and?
If someone is born with terminal brain cancer, is there anything wrong with "thwarting their body" by attempting to get rid of it?
No one is saying current surgical procedures for sex reassignment are perfect, but they do work.
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>>133814874
>terminal brain cancer
>vs not wanting to have a dick
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>>133814678
>Won't answer the question
Damnit anon, I would gladly raise the numbers of "Transgender/Mentally ill people stabbed to death"
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>>133785961
is that cassie brooks?
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>Americans were actually debating wether they should pay trannies for their pipi surgeries.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>133814932
Gender dysphoria goes a bit beyond merely "wanting" to be the opposite sex. Not really comparable to terminal cancer, true, but what about people born with autism, or down's syndrome, or even something like a sixth finger? Is it wrong to cure them just because it involves modifying their body in some measure? Where does acceptable medicine end and mutilation begin?
As a sidenote, my internet's been fucking up for the past 40 min or so so that's why my ID keeps changing.
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>>133814874
>Yes, and?
So the point is no matter how much you mutilate your body, no matter how many months and years of hormone therapy you put yourself through - it CANNOT overwrite your body's biological design.

If you cut yourself, your body will try to repair it.
If you lose a finger or a limb, your body will try and repair as much mitigate as much of the damage as it can.
And if you cut off your dick and use the remaining tissue to fashion a 'neo vagina', your body is going to reject it and try and heal what it correctly interprets as an open wound.
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>>133815276
> Where does acceptable medicine end and mutilation begin?
definitely before sex changes

you are mentally ill
that's why it's called gender dysphoria and not genital dysphoria
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>>133814874
>being born with cancer
where does this actually happen, ukraine?
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>>133814990
>high suicide rate
>stabbed to death
nice to see you're busy learning English, Juanito
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>>133785961
I would actually bang this one.
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>>133815507
You mean he would bang you
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>>133815294
>So the point is no matter how much you mutilate your body, no matter how many months and years of hormone therapy you put yourself through - it CANNOT overwrite your body's biological design.

Go ahead and chop your penis off, then see how long it takes for your "biological design" to magically grow it back then.
Biology isn't set in stone, that's the whole point of medical practice to begin with.
>>133815359
>you are mentally ill that's why it's called gender dysphoria and not genital dysphoria
>gen·der dys·pho·ri·a
ˈjendər disˈfôrēə/Submit
nounMEDICINE
the condition of feeling one's emotional and psychological identity as male or female to be opposite to one's biological sex.
Point to where the definition says "mentally ill"
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>>133791996

Born in the wrong = incapable.

Don't fuck up my phalanx with your degeneracy
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>>133815725
oh wow, you mean i can't use basic standards of primitive fucking instincts and obvious reasons to analyse the definition and ascertain that such an individual is mentally ill?

oh well, i guess i'll just have to point out the fact that it was acknowledged as a mental illness prior to being changed by political pressure groups for no reason other than political pressure

i guess by changing society to break down and become increasingly dysfunctional
you have somehow ceased to be mentally ill

or something
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>>133815276
>Where does acceptable medicine end and mutilation begin?
Surgeries which are necessary and/or improve the patient's quality of life are acceptable medicine. Surgeries which do not, are not.

Post-op transgenders have one of the highest suicide rates in modern history. According to a long term study from Sweden (Dhejne et al, 2011) post-ops are roughly 20 times more likely to commit suicide, 5 times more likely to make successive suicide attempts if the first attempt is not, and 3 times more likely to requires inpatient psychiatric care or be committed than pre-ops, who are already at substantially higher risks for all of the above than the general population.
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>>133815725
Try and get pregnant you deranged faggot.
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>>133815725
>>133815958
I mean seriously, if you don't understand that being severely depressed with your sex is a mental illness, what the fuck is a mental illness? and what the fuck is it?
is it not an illness? obviously fucking not
is it a physical disorder? is that seriously what you think it is? that your body should contort to fit your fetish?
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>>133815725
>Go ahead and chop your penis off, then see how long it takes for your "biological design" to magically grow it back then.
Didn't say it grows it back, said the body will try to mitigate it as best it can. In the case of the loss of a limb, for example, that means flesh and muscle tissue growing over the bone (this will happen naturally if the loss of the limb doesn't kill you, however medical aid can significantly improve the process).

The reason dilation is necessary, for life, after SRS is because the body interprets the mutilation as an open wound in need of healing, and that biological trigger can never be turned off and the body will keep trying to mitigate the damage and close the wound months, years, decades later.
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>>133815725
We aren't skinks. We don't grow back our body parts.
If you had your arm lopped off it wouldn't grow back, but that doesn't make the scarring and new skin that would eventually cover the stump less natural.

Cutting off a dick and claiming it doesn't grow back is proof of the medical viability is patently false. It's more medically viable to split our Tongues but that isn't natural. If medical sience really DID make it viable it'd be complete with uterus and not needing to constantly rip the wound open again.
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>>133804724
>>133807260
I've seen all sorts of gore and shit and not feeling disgust, but seeing these makes me so fucking disgust how can someone do such a thing
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>>133815958
>oh well, i guess i'll just have to point out the fact that it was acknowledged as a mental illness prior to being changed by political pressure groups for no reason other than political pressure
>for no reason other than political pressure
(citation needed)
You do realize the "mental illness" thing is just a label that was removed due to being outdated. HRT and surgeries were used as the primary treatment for transgenderism decades before its removal from the DSM..
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>>133785961
>Horribly insecure about my height
>Join the military
>Get tax-payer funded surgery to get legs lengthened
LAND OF THE FREE
HOME OF THE BRAVE
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>>133785961
So now any tranny can join the military and get uncle Sam to pay for them to transition. Then after the surgery they can drop out and live a life of debauchery all without ever paying a cent. Or you need only be a tranny related to a service member and you can be dialating in no time all for free.
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>>133816036
>>133816036
>Surgeries which (...) improve the patient's quality of life are acceptable medicine

You mean like sex reassignment?
>According to a long term study from Sweden (Dhejne et al, 2011) post-ops are roughly 20 times more likely to commit suicide, 5 times more likely to make successive suicide attempts if the first attempt is not, and 3 times more likely to requires inpatient psychiatric care or be committed than pre-ops

Here's the study in question: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
>The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8–4.3) than for CONTROLS OF THE SAME BIRTH SEX, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8–62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9–8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0–3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective BIRTH SEX CONTROLS.
>Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the GENERAL POPULATION.

So post-op trannies are more suicidal than the general population. Gee, it's almost as if constantly harrassing someone and calling them mentally ill and an abomination will make them more suicidal than the average person.
Still, none of that backs up your claim that post-op transsexuals have higher suicide rates than pre-op trans people. In fact, if you actually bothered to read the study you cited, it strongly implies the opposite.
>Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
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>>133816714
>>Horribly insecure about my height
>>Join the military
>Get my legs blown off
>Get tax-payer funded prostetics
>Beg to make them longer
>Stiltwalk
Such is a life of a manlet.
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>>133816468
>due to being outdated
it just magically stopped being true!
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>>133817219
Nobody's stopping you from doing it if you want to. Go nuts.

Just don't expect to get any sympathy (from us OR from the pro-trans crowd) when it goes poorly.
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>>133816084
So we're back at "it's a mental illness because it freaks me out eww gross tranny freaks gas the fags race war now". Remind me why I should bother taking you seriously again.

>>133816318
>The reason dilation is necessary, for life, after SRS is because the body interprets the mutilation as an open wound in need of healing, and that biological trigger can never be turned off and the body will keep trying to mitigate the damage and close the wound months, years, decades later.

Read my previous post again >>133813439
The neovagina doesn't close because the body "interprets an open wound" there, it closes simply because the male reproductive system lacks the necessary muscles to keep it open. As I've said, the procedure is far from perfect yet, but the positive effects outweigh the minor inconvenience of having to dilate by far, and there are studies to back it up. Do you also oppose people who rely on glasses in order to improve their vision because their eyes will "naturally" provide a blurry image?

>>133816323
> If medical sience really DID make it viable it'd be complete with uterus and not needing to constantly rip the wound open again.
So what will your argument be once stem cell technology advances to a point when that's actually common practice?
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Where tue FUCK is the executive order from Trump blocking this shit?

How the fuck did Republicans let this happen? It's fucking disgusting. I don't want to pay for this one bit.
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>>133817756
>So we're back at "it's a mental illness because it freaks me out eww gross tranny freaks gas the fags race war now". Remind me why I should bother taking you seriously again.
It's a mental illness for obvious fucking reasons
>>133816084
(you obviously didn't read it)
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>>133817892
>is it not an illness? obviously fucking not
by this i mean obviously not [not an illness]
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>>133785961
I got denied braces during my 5 years in the Marines imagine the fucking shit you have to go thru to get your gender changed.
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>>133785961
jesus christ republicans are fucking useless

>>133786559
this
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>>133785961
>The amendment failed in a 209-214 vote, with 24 Republicans voting against it.
>24 Republicans voting against it.
>24 Republicans
>Republicans
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>libtard thinks the majority of funds will be used for service members wanting to transition and not just be pocketed by politicians and top brass

Babby's first steps in politics. Get real. This will just be an excuse to get money into their pockets. I say blocking this is a good thing as there will be less degeneracy AND corruption. Two birds wih one stone.
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>>133806009

[x] wrekt
[_] not wrekt
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>reads through thread
>sees people are on board on tranny shit
>nearly vomits
what the fuck happened to people
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>>133817541
>newtonian physics just magically stopped being true!
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>>133785961
Who cares? If you're dumb enough to sign up for the military, your balls have already been taken anyway.
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>>133819947
Newtonian physics DIDN'T magically stop being true, it's still a perfectly accurate approximation useful in the majority of circumstances, certainly almost all circumstances on Earth that don't involve electron microscopes.
Similarly, trannies are STILL mentally ill.
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