Brilliant

>>133777951
that's a stupid picture

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>>133777951
>Many people who fiercely oppose monopolies get angry if their partner has an affair. Think about it
HOLY FUCK
STOP THE PRESSES
SO YOU BE SAYIN'
THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO DON'T LIKE THEIR WIFE
WHO TOOK SACRED VOWS
TO FUCK OTHER MEN?
AAAANNNNNDDDDDDDD
THESE PEOPLE ALSO OPPOSE MONOPOLIES?
GOOD GOD AT LAST I TRULY SEE

In other news 100% of people who fuck dogs drink water! DO YOU DRINK WATER YOU DOG FUCKER?

That doesn't make sense.

You didn't agree to give your wife to your boss. But you agreed to give the finished product of your labor to him.

>>133777951
Nice try cuckly.

>>133777951

Why do commies always frame employment as some sort of exploitative arrangement?

There is nothing special about employment. What I mean is that it is a trade like any other trade. You agree to give your boss a percentage of your earnings in exchange for access to his building and equipment. Employment is no more exploitative a trade than two guys trading wheat for apples.

Fuck communists, and fuck american communists.

how many false equivalencies can you see?

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>>133777951


Because my wife is personal property, not a publicly traded defense contractor.

>>133777951
Why are commies so shit at making memes?

>>133777951
For the guy who is known for saying "not an argument", that sure is a shit one.

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>>133777951
Capitalists literally do not have an argument against this. No wonder they're so obsessed with cuckoldry, they're all classcucks.

>>133783007
See
>>133781323

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>>133783179
Your wife is not your property, she is an independent person and an individual. Because of this, she is allowed to sleep with masculine men like me.
Since you are such an individualist classcuck you have no real objection to this :^)

>>133783007
>t. water drinking dog fucker

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>>133783353
You don't have an actual argument? Well I can't say I'm not surprised...

>>133777951

I made a contract with my wife that said "Don't fuck other people." If you can't get that kind of contract out of your marriage, you're a failure.

I made a contract with my employeer that said "Pay me X money for Y work." If you can get contract terms where you're a net zero rather than a net gain for the company, I would be impressed with you and disdainful of the company - kind of like if you made a marriage contract that entitles you to cheat but not her.

>>133783318
No, I payed for her with my own earnings from the East European slaver and he signed the title over to me. :^)

You get nothing out of the boss fucking your wife, but you get money out doing the work you were hired to do. You agreed to do that work for pay, you did not agree to let the boss fuck your wife. How is it that faggots actually get roped in to shit with arguments like this? Do you just have to not think at all?

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>>133783597
An edgy loser who hates women, what a surprise. You're not helping your cause by calling yourself an actual slaver, but then again Porky doesn't want you to be a thinker...

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>>133783451
>if your for x, you must also be for y
It's literally the same argument you just made
sort yourself out and then see yourself out, sweetheart.

>>133777951
Analogies are dumb. There are very few situations where you can use one thing in place of another and have your argument make sense.

>>133777951

Such a stupid "argument".

When 2 people are together they agree NOT to fool around with other people. That's kind of the point of being together; you two are combined.

Anyone who thinks it's a valid argument is a retard

But OP has yet to provide a logically correct argument on why being a cuck is bad.

>person is good at building things
>other person is good at selling things
>person 1 gets paid by person 2 to use person 2's supply and machines to build something
>person 1 is paid for his time and skill while person 2 is paid by using his skills as a salesman to move the finished product
>this triggers mush-brained retards

To a certain degree, it's true. Capitalists accept human nature so they're more likely to be into polyamory.

Commies are more idealistic.

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>>133783007
>>133783318
>>133783451
>>133783693
>autistic retard intent on letting his non existent gf/wife sleep around
It all makes sense

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>>133777951
Which is why entrepreneurship and small businesses are key.

>>133784495
>floppy Spurdo MILF tits

>A fetish I didn't need.

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>>133777951

>>133777951
That picture makes no sense. It's the other way around. It's like my boss owns his wife and can't fuck her enough so he recruits other people to fuck her in the end the wife gets fucked and I get fucked and we are all happy. I don't have to feed her cuddle with her or take care of her. I just get what I want in exhange for my time and I'm on my way.

>>133777951
hey molymeme, what do you think of a single party political system?
or a single state religion?
that's what I thought

>>133785496
There's a special reason white countries are christian and the rest are pagan - superior ideas win.

>I made my wife
>you're a cuck if you give some of what you've produced to your boss but you're uncucked if you give literally everything to the state

shit b8

>>133777951
How retarded is Molyneux?

>>133783318
Sidenote - that picture was doctored to be used as Party propaganda btw, for what it's worth he had a lot of acne scars in his younger years.

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>>133787398
Surely you can post the original? I bet you also get triggered by holocaust pictures.
>>133786212
He is TOO retarded to be taken seriously at all.

>>133787919
So real question. Let's say the workers own the means of production. Who markets their goods? Does the government just buy it all and distribute it? How is that any different than working for a boss who sells the fruits of your labor and then pays you?
In the end the only way you not getting cucked by your own definition is to only produce goods for yourself and sell them yourself, which is essentially what many small family owned businesses do.

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>>133789123
>Who markets their goods?
It would work similarly to how it does now, just without a central figure owning the means themselves. Selling goods does not require a "boss" so to speak.
>does the government just buy it all
No, everyone already works for the government. The idea is that since everything is part of the state, everyone is part of the state. So "the state" basically doesn't exist in a sense.
>only produce goods for yourself and sell them yourself
What is this "for yourself" garbage? You produce goods and services to fill a need, that wouldn't change simply because the factories and fields aren't exclusively owned and abused by the elite.
>small family businesses
Obviously a communist would prefer a wholesome family business to a corporation, so yes.

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FRIENDLY REMINDER:

The guy who illustrated the pig-man meme originally (Vladimir Mayakovsky) was murdered by the soviet authorities in the 1930's.

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>>133790105
Not real communists, and classcucks have no argument against that.

>>133789458
All your doing is replacing your boss with the government. How is that any less cucked?

>>133777951

>when commies compare working a job to a sub-genre of sado masochism

Well I guess it kind of makes sense? But it's better than a system where you work AND starve.

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>>133790730
You aren't replacing your boss with your government, you are replacing your boss and your current government in favor of communism.
To keep it simple for you, you must realize that the current government is owned and operated by the bosses. A proletariat revolution, when successful, will replace the bosses with the workers, and the government with the people.

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>>133787919
I belive by the acne ridden picture he is referring to this one?
I don't know which one is the original one.

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>>133790730
Commies literally fap to the idea of being ploughed by the state. Somehow it's oppressive to work for a boss but being a slave to the state is liberating.

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>>133791104
These seem to be slightly doctored, and of course Stalin had no acne scars in his adulthood. Furthermore, he was a bit of a player in his youth so I doubt any acne he had was severe.

>>133791377
At a glance it looks like horrible acne scars but it looks more like a terrible beard, probably why he stuck to the iconic paintbrush stache desu.
Also can I get a source on him being a chad in his youth?

>>133791086
>bosses with the workers, and the government with the people
Bosses are workers and government is already made up of people. What do you think your boss just sits around collecting money all day? He has to make investments, business decisions, take risks, make sure everyone gets paid, replace any broken equipment, compensate any workers who get injured using his equipment, ect.
And the government is already made up of people. Imperfect people. That's why you get corruption. That's not going to change because you waved your magic communist wand over it.

>>133790346
Oh yes it was, that's why it also happened in china, a completely different society
What you really mean by that is
>that Stalin character, he wasn't such a good guy, he didn't really know how to implement Marxist doctrine
>but im pure of heart if I had been dictator for 20 years we would have gotten the utopia that was promised
even if you were a saint the next man in the revolutionary line like Stalin is going to stab you in your bed in the middle of the night and that would be the end of that.

>>133779091
Thank you for this. I haven't laughed like that in a long time.

>>133783007
>>133783451
As opposed to Cuckunism where the secret police can have a go at my wife because they protect me from the wicked bourgeois?

>>133791216
No, they see themselves as temporarily embarrassed apparatchiks who decided who gets what.

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>>133777951
>your partner hoarding other partners
>you wanting loyalty from one partner is comparable to monopolies
Molymeme and ancapism is retard but so are you communists.

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>>133791595
on his wikipedia article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

>>133791760
>he actually thinks this
classcucks, everyone.
>boss just sits around
Compared to laborers, yes. "Muh investments and risks" are nothing compared to the physical risks a laborer makes.
>corruption and imperfection
The point is to reduce it by replacing a major source of corruption- capitalist greed.
>>133792262
>stalin wasn't a good guy
He wasn't a good communist.
>if I was dictator
Never said I wanted to be in charge, you're projecting.
>>133792442
>secret police have a go at my wife
Not. Real. Communism.

>>133777951
Why do you need a boss if he's not entitled to what you create? Just make it yourself.

>>133794058
Bosses own everything and will kill you if you make stuff with either working for them or their competitors.

>>133779185
I believe he is referring to wagecucks who work for pay well below their worth. Capitalism is the best system right now for allocation, however your boss will pay you the lowest amount they can

>Compared to laborers, yes. "Muh investments and risks" are nothing compared to the physical risks a laborer makes.
They absolutely are. A bad business decision can lead to lawsuits, shut downs, even jail time. Just because you don't understand the risks involved doesn't mean there are none.
Capitalist greed is not the source of corruption, it's just regular greed, which is a human quality that isn't going to disappear in your fantasy land
>>133793294
>Never said I wanted to be in charge, you're projecting.
You seem to believe you can do a better job or you wouldn't make the false claim that it's not real communism. It is real communism, it just didn't yield the results you want because those results will NEVER happen. There will NEVER be a perfect utopian society so long as man is imperfect.

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>>133794446
>You seem to believe you can do a better job or you wouldn't make the false claim that it's not real communism.
I get it. If I go to McDonalds, and say that my burger tastes bad... obviously I must have intentions of being a chef.

>>133793294
You could have made the case that the laborer is putting himself at physical risk 200 years ago, but with technology advancements, the vast majority of workers are safely pushing buttons on a keyboard in a ventilated cubicle. No one is sending 10 year olds to grab coal from the mines or take the strands of cloth off the floor under the clothes machines.

Also, who would you consider the best Communist leader?

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>>133794231
>Bosses own everything and will kill you if you make stuff with either working for them or their competitors
>communist retard actually believe this
this isn't ancapistan
>>133794619
false equivalency is not an argument. If you think that the USSR or china wasn't real communism then you obviously claim to know the marxist school of thought better than Lenin, Stalin, or Chairman mao.

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>>133777951
>
are these commie shitposters larping or are they genuinely this stupid?

just look at op's trash meme. i feel like my IQ dropped just from reading it

>>133795894
I thought they were just RPing to but no this nigga ITT is actually just a fucking tard.

The second panel is dumb as hell. Yes, if your boss stakes you with money and tools he is entitled to a cut dipshit

>>133777951
Your boss is entitled to what you create because undoubtedly those are the terms of employment. In exchange for letting you use his tools and being paged a wage your boss gets the product of your labor.

There are places with tools and capital you can use, but theyre not places of employment and the owners charge a fee rather than pay a wage.

So the opposite arrangement exists if you really think it's just too unreasonable for your employer to receive value for smoking you .

>>133796131
He is absolutely destroying you, and he is not even trying.

God, why do right wingers always look like dipshits and complete retards when they discuss with commies? It makes us look really bad

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>>133796698
sure thing bruv

>>133795120
>this isn't ancapitism
Yes it is, if I enter a factory and manufacture goods with the boss's permission he'll shoot me or hire someone else to do it.
>marxist school of thought better than lenin, stalin or mao
Stalin and Mao did not follow Marx's teachings and Lenin died before he could realize them. Learn your history.

>>133797567
>with permission
without of course

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>>133777951
Congratulations, you have autism.

>>133797567
Lenin was likely poisoned by Stalin for the same reason that I stated earlier in the thread: he was the next man in the revolutionary line and Lenin's cute little morals were getting in his way.
>Yes it is, if I enter a factory and manufacture goods without the boss's permission he'll shoot me or hire someone else to do it.
>go onto private property
>use resources you didn't pay for and a machine you didn't pay for to make a product without permission from the owner of the machine and resources
>lol this thing is mine now even though I made it with stolen resources and equipment that isn't mine
you deserve to be shot because you are a thief at that point. If I go into your house and use your bread and your mayo and your lunch meat and your cheese that you paid for to make a sandwich then that doesn't mean I'm not stealing from you. That isn't my sandwich. This is not hard to understand.

>>133797567

Buy your own means of production, credit's never been cheaper.


If you wanted to complain about bullshit regulations being used to shut down small business, I'll agree with you (though I still see businesses succeeding despite them). But I've never heard a commie complain about that, they love big government.

>>133791086
But that's a horrible idea. Answer me this honestly.

The people, the masses....are the ones that eat up jewish shit. They are dumb, they are regularly outwitted by these "capitalist dogs". So when the government is comprised of these stupid people, which we know to be stupid....what do you think is going to happen?

We're all going to be loving eachother? No, human nature is going to kick in and these savage morons are going to destroy society and innovation.

You like capitalism mate, you just don't like crony-corporatism.

>>133799001
>You like capitalism mate, you just don't like crony-corporatism.
crony-capitalism is the natural result of capitalism. Cronyism is when the capitalist class acquires enough power and influence that the border between them and state gets blurred. It happens when the capitalist accumulate wealth with the passing of generations. Literally what Marx predicted.

Saying you like capitalism but you do not like Cronyism is the same as saying you like socialism but you don't like communism.

>>133787398
He had smallpox and psoriasis, not acne.

>>133792262
That's a strawman taken from a Jordan Peterson video.

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>>133798463
>leaving your family is "alpha"
Neck yourself commie fag

>>133799926
Never forget the 66 million, bolshevik.

>>133798463
>should stop
But the right wing rhetoric isn't about that. It's about sincerity. It encourages people to accept that women like the stronger men, so they themselves should become stronger and show their strength, by defending their homeland from foreigners.

>>133777951
Really makes you think.

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>>133777951
I think I finally understand why that "porky" meme is so stupid. It's because it's deliberately inoffensive. They use it the same way we use A Wyatt Mann Jew caricatures but those work because those actually have a specific target and are meant to offend based on the things what make that target unlike us. The pig meme doesn't target any specific group but the very broad and nebulous banner of "the rich" but represents them with a kid-friendly picture of a pig so as not to offend anyone by attributing the qualities they hate to a more well-defined group. It has no teeth. It fails to serve as a symbol for source of all problems because it doesn't really represent anyone.

>>133800569
I am yet to see an MGTOW thread that wasn't a complete trainwreck with fascist flags getting called roasties.

>>133800697
>with fascist flags getting called roasties.
I don't think anyone has ever called me a roastie

>>133799704
>saying you like socialism but you don't like communism
That's probably the worst analogy you could use. You are arguing that it is inevitable that capitalism becomes corrupt and the end result is crony capitalism, but at no time in history socialism ended up in communism.

In fact socialism is the perfect tool now in the hands of the capitalists, who just want a quick appeasement. Capitalism is the utopia, while oligarchic semi-tribal society is the natural low-energy point any human society gravitates towards.

The party leadership, just like the senators of Rome and the warriors of germanic tribes all end up as some form of
>crats
and if they are lucky enough to find domestic happiness they will try to give the best options for their children.

And boom, you have an oligarchy. People like to call it corruption, because instead of trying to understand human nature and utilize it to have the best option, they come up with arbitrary ideas and then try to impose them on human beings.

Soon all this communism-capitalism debate will be obsolete anyway. With modern AIs and automatization human labor and thus
>the Masses
gradually become obsolete.

>>133801418
Then you haven't posted in an MGTOW thread, either. And I highly suggest you do so. It's fantastic, you're going to get told off so hard.

>>133777951

>equating economics and social bonding
>not being able to understand anything without looking at it through an economic lens

Typical Marxist

>>133777951
My boss isn't entitled to my work. That's why he pays me 7.25/ hr to use the products of my work.

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>>133801671
So wait that wasn't an error? they call fascist flags roasties? Is it because most of us demand taking responsibility for ourselves?
>tfw the only thing I can agree on with a commie is that MGTOW is cancer

>>133783007
Jobs aren't given, they are traded. It's a contract.

>>133802113
They do. Whoever talks down on MGTOW gets told off. Also, I didn't say they are cancer. :^) I just enjoy reading the threads.
>/pol/ in charge of make sure the beauty of the white aryan woman doesn't perish from the earth

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>government owned enterprise isn't a monopoly

>>133802375
>/pol/ in charge of anything but producing propaganda for me to use

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>>133777951
Communism is a materialistic pipedream fed to you by tyrants that will stab you in the back. Your revolution ends in your demise or slavery.

True freedom awaits however. You just have to read nigga READ

>>133802113
>2017
>Using Mumble

>>133802870
Pic unrealted, obv.

>>133790346
>No true scottsman

Impressive debate skills there.

I'm sure you will be successful since you never recognize failure!

>>133800697
>MGTOW
>right wing

>>133779091
Top kek.

>>133803296
No it's very related. Try reading Mein Kampf.
Here have this
http://www.nationalists.org/pdf/hitler/mein-kampf-stalag.pdf
800 pages, every one is worth reading.

>>133802870
>True freedom awaits
unless you're not German.

>>133803699
>jews jews jews jews jews
wew lad, such insight

>>133803723
>National Socialism is German-centric
Another lost soul. Read the book I posted.
Also the idea is to esteem your own tribe and its innards over others' and your outward dealings. Any man can be a national socialist.

>>133803810
You doubly need to read the book friend.

>>133783451
keep drinking water, dogfucker.

>>133793294
>Not. Real. Communism.
Ohhhh, a LARPer!
You almost got me there, matey!

>>133803473
It's a LARPing antifacuck, sage.

>>133777951
It's ironic that the correct response to molymeme's post is "not an argument".
The OP pic is retarded, your boss is entitled to what you produce because you literally agreed to use his tools to create the goods which he can then sell in return for money, while you didn't agree to have him fuck your wife.

>leftypol
>unironically defending the Psuedo-Monarchy DPRK as a worker's paradise
>Tankies everywhere jerking off to genocidal fantasies
>fatfuck leftcoms that don't do jackshit
>Soc(succ)dem posters who believe capitalism is fine it just needs reform
>Total retards that latch onto leftist superficial ideas and don't read the pdf reading threads and think "the conquest of bread" is a Martha Stewart cook book

Your board is full of infighting with identity politics posters that want transgender proletariat revolution to gas the cis scum and you'll never lead a revolution because neo-liberals will always seep into your movements like parasites and FUCK you every single time you try to initiate class consciousness. The furry board has a higher priority than you guys because at least their autism brings me more joy than watching you troglodytes masturbate to Antifa breaking shit that the lumpen-proles will inevitably have to clean up because your fucking retarded if you think the borgie are the ones that do that; and while he's fuming from being paid NO overtime for cleaning it all up he's going to vote for the politican that vows for more police and more government crackdown because you have no idea how the common man operates and your petit-borgie operations will continue pushing the overton window further to the right all because you refuse to look at tactics utilized by the ultra-right wing nationalist parties like the Golden Dawn getting parliament seats because they clean grandpa's lawn in exchange for his vote instead of setting his car on fire.

Rosa Luxemburg died for nothing.

>>133804664

Yeah, but if you don't agree to have him fuck your wife, hell just hire some fucking mexican who will let him fuck his wife.

The analogy stands

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>>133777951

> implies all sex is literally commerce
> someone must visit lots of prostitutes

Think about that, faggot.

>>133777951
>Stefan Molyneux
Does anyone takes this guy seriously?

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>>133806840
Unless the man is in the wife fucking business then what you just said is 100% retarded. Your boss hired you because you have a set of skills he finds valuable to his business, not so he can fuck your wife. Rake yourself.

>>133779091
Read this in a mafioso voice

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>>133783318
haha you cucked yourself

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>>133777951
>that picture

The sooner commies understand and accept tax labour the better. Same concept could be applied to barter: if you cut my grass I will give you a loaf of bread. Does that entitle me to your wife or you to my lawn? The answer is neither since that image was made by a b8ing braindead slacking commie.

>>133777951
And If you think that the public is entitled to your wife that makes you uuummmmmm???

>>133806840
No, barely anyone will let him fuck his wife, and he will go out of business, because no employees = no labor = no profit.