When is tasing a fleeing suspect okay?

when theyre niggers

>>133773922
easier to catch them then chasing them down

>>133773922

To try to stop him from jumping off a bridge.

Captcha: select bridges

if police have the opportunity yet do not subdue a criminal in ANY case they should be fired and charged with criminal negligence in the line of duty. real life human fucking lives are at risk.

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>>133773922
>When is tasing a fleeing suspect okay?

When you're too fat to chase them

When they didn't ask if they were being detained before running, federal law.

lol @ '"american'" threads.

shitty as your "country", friends of IsRaHELL

Im about to post a police report and ask what you think, pls standby.

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>>133774101
>Googa Gola

god damn that gets me every time

>>133773922
depends on the color of their skin.

>>133773922
>When is tasing a fleeing suspect okay?
police shouldn't be allowed to carry tasers at all only real firearms with real bullets. Criminals need to fear being shot to behave, taser gives them a false sense of not having to take responsibility for their actions.

The opioid shit didnt become a problem until cops started using Narcan, same as thugs got worse when cops started carrying tasers

Always. Tasing isn't lethal in most cases, and anyone fleeing from the cops likely did something wrong, so they deserve to be tased.

>>133773922
>fleeing suspect
>running away from cops
in all cases

Never. These are weapons of torture and should be b&.

>>133773922
When it's black/hispanic/islamic, and pregnant

>>133773922
They should be shot with actual rounds. Innocent do not flee.

>>133775098
>thugs got worse when cops started carrying tasers

Why are you surprised that when you give thugs tasers, it makes things worse?

>>133773922
The second a subject starts fleeing they should be shot with bullets.

Cause its fuckin hilarious, that's why

>>133773922

All the time, because THEY'RE FLEEING and it's a less harmful way of subduing them than shooting them with a live round in the leg.

>>133773922
When you've run out of bullets.

>>133773922
Every single time.

>>133776667
If I'm reading that right, all of this unfolded while the householder remained perfectly silent?

>>133773922
Every single time.

>>133773922
"Fleeing"
"Suspect"
Basically always. If they are healthy enough to try to flee from a cop and ruthless enough to try then they also should be tough enough to take a little tazing.
>>TLDR: Always unless hes black, in which case you just shoot him like any other officer.

>>133776568
>>133776606
>>133776629
>>133776667
>>133776970
I was wearing an orange t-shirt, purple gym shorts with no underwear, i was straight up just not having any of it and was trying to get away,
It's not reported as an assault on an officer case for a reason, because it was purely resistive, non-combative, happened in a pretty quiet and peaceful area near a virtually dead road at night, yet there was street lights on.
>>133777330
>>133777324
>>133777177
>>133776970
>>133775717
>>133775628
>>133773989
You are telling me that it's safer to tase a 21/yo with severe health issues than to call for back up?

>>133777330
>>133777324
>>133777177
>>133776970
>>133775717
>>133775628
>>133773989
So just because it is easier, it's okay to electrocute somebody?

tell me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure i got a police brutality suit going.

>>133776568
>>133776606
>>133776629
>>133776667
inb4> you missed some spots


just realized

Can i at least get a "stop fighting it"

cmon, show me i can trust 4chan when sharing my personal life and secrets.

Why was his body cam not turned on?

>>133773922
https://youtu.be/6yaie4bzsFI
There you go, now you know, free to go.
/Thread

>>133779399
gee, this is a pretty recent video.

>>133777675
Literally resisting arrest by force. Also running over the top of a police car lol

still not convinced, try again.

>>133779827
I don't want to talk about me trying to mantle the car...
still non-combative, no weapons.

>>133777770
Yes. It's a device that allows officers to prevent further chasing and development in a situation. A suspect could run around a corner and shoot a cop who runs around the corner, or the suspect could escape and later kill or injure someone in another crime. A taser in most cases ends it right away, meaning that risk ends. Cops should tase if they have the right opportunity to do so when backup is near. If there's no backup they should reserve taser use in serious cases because a suspect may have a gun, the taser may miss or the suspect may be able to resist the taser.

>>133780347
I forgot to mention that this report is not 100% honest, after i tried to run over the car, i tripped on the trunk and ate the dirt, thats when i gve up and just stayed they're with my hands behind my back,

Your telling me that if you were a police officer, seeing me lying there for 20-30 seconds waiting for you to handcuff me or at least use your wight to keep me from going anywhere,
isn't indicative enough that i was non-combative, only resistive?

>>133773922
Literally always. Tazers aren't lethal. If they didn't want to get hurt. They shouldn't have ran.

>>133780347
>A suspect could run around a corner and shoot a cop
what did he have to suspect that i was armed in any way?

>>133773922
Always

>>133773922
>Serial Rapist is fleeing from the Police
>'Wait stop! Don't tase him! He's unarmed!'
>Serial Rapist gets away and attacks claims another victim.

>>133781090
You're telling me that tasers are not defined as use of deadly or lethal force?
see>>133779399

>>133773922

When da nigga tires to run.

I guess what i'm asking is, chase and detain me rather than chase and follow me in car and wait for backup to assist him?

>>133773922
When the suspect has already violated the NAP and is only fleeing to escape accountability.

>>133781966
*why did he choose to tase me rather than chase and follow me in car and wait for backup to assist him?

>>133782131
Why not just send a recreational McNuke™ at him?

>>133781602
No, they're defined as awesome. Did you not hear that part of the video?

Let me break it down like a fraction:
If you're not complying with the police, they may use reasonable force.
This force, though TYPICALLY not lethal, could end up injuring or killing someone.
Don't make the police have to use reasonable force.
Don't be a dick with the police.

>>133781602
No, they aren't lethal and deadly force. The people in that video are not dead, don't be stupid. Getting hurt is not lethal.

>>133782680
Is the use of a taser by a police officer upon anybody, anywhere, considered deadly or lethal force?
>>133782680
obvious troll, electricity can kill.

Every time.

>>133783059
It can kill, but the chances are low and it almost never happens. That doesn't make it a lethal force. Is punching someone lethal force because getting hit the wrong way can kill you? Is tackling someone lethal force because they can hit their head on the ground and die?

Jesus christ, by your logic we may as well just force police to only ask nicely since everything else has a possibility of killing someone. Can't risk a criminal trying to escape dying afterall, maybe if the cops just politely ask them to stop and wag their fingers at them crime will go away. Fuck off, Hillary.

I wish you would've fried.

>>133773922
When you cant shoot them

>antifi whining about getting tazed bro

great thread OP post photos of injuries and maybe selfie with cop next time for more laffs

>>133775717
>>133775758

Bong more cuck'd than a germ

You should be shot automatically for fleeing. Nobody who runs from cops is worth keeping.

>>133773922
Always.

>>133780205
Still fleeing.
You deserved to be tased dipshit.

>>133773922

If you don't want electric fish hooks stuck in you back, don't run from the police

>>133784583
>>133784597
see>>133780971

>Run from the cops
>Somehow upset that you didn't get a bullet in the ass

>>133780971
You couldn't wait for more than 30s?

>>133782579
Well obviously, any unrepentant person who's violated the NAP deserves nothing less than eternal hellfire. But sadly, we're just not as advanced as God almighty yet.

>>133784886
I could have, but i don't want to bore you on my reason for being annoyed and impatient.
>inb4:cuz ur a dumb nigger

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>>133773922
Hi op

>>133785964
yea thats me
what do you think so far?

>>133785134
>i don't want to bore you on my reason for being annoyed and impatient

Gotcha, you were holding and were too retarded to just dump your stash down a storm drain while uncuffed.

>>133785964
I'm not trying to hide im just unsure about the legalities on sharing case info so i tried to key info.

>>133785134
You are a retard if you think non-compliance with a police officer after a warning is a good idea. You deserved a lot more charges.

>B-but the report wasn't 100% honest! I only resisted arrest after I got bored!

Literally a nigger

>>133786032
M8 you're fucking pathetic with your 2deep4u Fagbook posts

>>133773922
Why wouldn't it be ok? What do you think the point of a tazer is?

>>133786181
*hide key info
>>133786077
no
>>133786199
I was compliant enough to show that i was not armed or combative.

>>133775098
Have you ever been tased? I have. I promise you would not disrespect the fear and pain it causes if you had experienced it.

t. US Army less-than-lethal training course graduate.

>133773922
always it wont kill them and they are getting away bring them down and to justice

>>133786358
>compliant enough to show that i was not armed or combative

>compliant enough
>ran the fuck away

For all the cop knew you were going off to murder someone. You were lucky you didn't get shot for expedience.

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>>133773922
If the suspect is black and about to jump off a bridge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbCLvcrLqPc
he jumps at 1:20

>>133783736
so just to be clear,
it is not legally labeled, written, and stamped down as a lethal or deadly instrument?
anywhere?

>>133786358
>I was compliant enough
Nigger you don't get to just decide how compliant you need to be with the cops. I'm guessing you had shitty parents with that lack of respect for authority.

>>133786463
Gee, if only there were some way OP could have acted that would have prevented being tased. That would have been super.

I don't go around running at bouncers with my fist cocked back and no internal intention of actually hitting them before complaining that my nose got busted open.

When they're colored
Stupid question

>>133786032
beaner who broke the law and got punished.
Why would you post this here and not reddit?

We're all just going to shit on you.

>>133773922
STOP; before you reply: DON'T
this is a meme spam thread, low quality content that is spammed on the board for easy (You)s. The content of this thread also belongs on another board (/bant/)
The best option is to not reply but if you absolutely can't keep your retarded opinion to yourself remember to type "sage" into the options field of your post.
otherwise just report and ignore and continue browsing.

>>133786590
Nigger i was laying down
on my belly
spread eagle for about 15 sec
then i thought it proper too cross my hands behind my back for another 15 sec
>"HES GOT A GUN, TASE THAT WILLEY NIGGER"

>>133786869
>15+15s
>Kid who failed the Stanford Marshmallow Test

>>133786869
For the last time you dumb nigger tasers aren't exclusively for armed suspects, they're for noncompliant suspects. By running you gave the cops a good enough assumption that you might try running again. By tasering you they kept you compliant without having to risk injury to themselves or you by having to physically restrain you if you suddenly got combatant.

>>133773922

Officer here. I just yell TASER TASER TASER and they usually stop.

That said if they are within range Ill pop 'em department policy says I can taze a fleeing suspect since its a Misd A.

>>133786869
How a normal person responds to a cop telling them to get down:
>Yes officer I will comply. I am unarmed and will lay down now.
>lays down patiently

What you did:
>SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEET WHITEY THINKS HE CAN GET ME TO SIT STILL? IT'S BEEN 30 FUCKIN SECONDS I DONT LAY DOWN FOR NO ONE

>>133786628

Bro, am cop.

Been tazed, maced, gassed, and bean bagged (accident) before.

That poster is a little bitch

>>133787189
see
>>133786581
also, i don't suppose you can source that?

When they begin to flee. Don't ever run from law enforcement, you will never outrun the long arm of justice. Criminal scum.

>>133777675
>>133777770
Stop breaking the law and you won't get tazed dipshit

>>133787637
>waaaah how dare the cops risk giving me a heart attack what if I had a weak heart
>running with a weak heart
Don't want to get tazed
don't run
This isn't rocket science, even a stupid spic like you should get this eventually

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>>133773922
When they're black. (duh)

When they're being detained and then try to flee/resist arrest .

>>133787606
I don't feel like proving it but it's not that simple.
>>133787614
Im not mad about getting tased, im mad about 3 years probation, up to a $500, and up to 20 community service
>>133787944
so.... you can't back it up?

>>133788167
*20 hours

>>133788167
Back up what, speak clearly paco

>>133773922
every time

>>133786581
No, it isn't. It's one of their non-lethal options along with pepper spray and batons. And no, I can't source that something is not classified as something. How would you propose I give a source to something that is not?

>>133776041
dude cops r thugs :DDDDDDDDDD

>>133773922
When you run out of ammo

>>133788247
that a taser isn't considered deadly or lethal force

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>>133788275
But what if they dindu nuffin?

asshats thinking that because you turn your back to run its bad.... fuck that... 2 seconds ago you were getting tough and now you wanna run.... why should an officer let them run just to fuck with someone else.... play stupid games win stupid prizes... they cant win, they dont tze somebody you bitch they beat their ass into the ground too hard... they taze them you cry about that.... fuckin hell why is everyone such a pussy

>>133781090
They are designated as less than lethal force

>>133788443
No, I can't back up a negative. Can you back up that a taser is considered deadly or lethal force?

>>133788302
show me the source that says that it is classified as a non lethal weapon in southern california.

>>133788618
Can you source that?

>fleeing suspect
You should tase any suspect being belligerent in any way.

>>133773922
Any time

>>133773922
whenever you get the chance

>>133773922
every single time. fuck all you liberals and your dont hurt criminals mindset while you hide behind gated communities.

>>133788873
https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/publications/doj-law-enforce-policy-procedures-manual.pdf
>300.2.3 NON-DEADLY FORCE APPLICATIONS
>Non-deadly force applications may include but are not limited to control devices and TASER
described in Policy Manual §§ 308 and 309 respectively
Juego terminado
mate

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>>133788949
Sure thing hippie let me spend 10 minutes going through my training records to satisfy your idiocy

>>133777770
Seems less likely to injure a person than being tackled to the ground.

Jesus, this is just not an issue for most people, who can go through their entire lives without getting tazed. Fuck you OP. Condition your brain to not think like a taco nigger. And get rid of your goddamn victim mentality. You made your own mother call the police on you. Fucks wrong with you, boy?

>>133789284
Thanks for the material,
look what i found
page 55:
309.4.1 FACTORS TO DETERMINE REASONABLENESS OF FORCE
The application of the TASER is likely to cause intense, but momentary, pain. As such, agents
should carefully consider and balance the totality of circumstances available prior to using the
TASER including, but not limited to, the following factors:

>a.
>b
>d
>h
>i
>j

>>133790274
All in favor if my case.

Don't leave just yet cucks

>>133773922
always

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>>133773922
Any time they are fleeing the police seems ok for me

>>133790274
>>133790363
a. you tried to run
b. not sure how that's "in your favor" when it's completely up to the cop to determine
d. cop can safely assume you might have a weapon hidden on your person
h. see b.
i. see a. and d.
j. see a. and i.

>>133773922
All force and violence is okey for the police to use if you dont comply.

>>133776268
What if you are the suspect? What if the cops are treading on you? Boot never tasted so good

>>133790680
Additional note for all of them: none of those are for you to decide if they're "in your favor", that's for the cops and the courts to decide, which they already did
Take the L

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

literally OP

>>133778043
you are retardedly, spectacularly wrong. please bring it to suit and bankrupt yourself

To keep them from returning later to try to be successful at the illegal act they didn't just accomplish. Same with a bullet. Fuck em.

>>133790680
>a, h, i and j
"get on the ground", "sure" *lays down on the ground spread eagle, then after awhile crosses arms behind back*
*cop just stands there*
this is also relative to,
>d.
seeing as if i had a gun (blades are irrelevant in this matter) i would've most likely used it right away, dumb nigger or not.


You forgot >f.

>>133791518
Well you're clearly just not getting it so I guess just good luck with your suit

>>133791518
if a cop tells you to get on the group you must lay on the ground until the next command. why is this a difficult concept to grasp?

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>>133791735
he no spic english señor.

>>133773922

Fuck you degenerate spic I wish you'd been shot and killed.

>>133790902
L?
>>133791735
Electricity is lethal

factor >f.
is for sure my friend

>>133791953
i cri

>>133792102
not complying with a command elevates the situation

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When you ride the lightning

Taser argument aside, and now that i have you all here....
what do you think of the sentence they're trying to lay down on me?
too easy?
too hard?
just right?

>>133792102
>Electricity is lethal
Not really. Tasers are designed so you'll survive. Enough to hopefully incapacitate your combative ass but not enough to Trayvon you.

>>133792577
You're still breathing, so I'd say not enough.

>>133774224
Nice flag, fag

>>133773922

>immediately try to flee as soon as you see police
>ignore police when they tell you to stop
>resist arrest when the police catch you
>try to flee again while being arrested
>resist arrest again while being arrested

The fuck is wrong with you? Mental Illness? Drugs? Or are you really just that dumb?

>>133792457
so... He thought i was running to try and reach my secret arsenal i had buried somewhere out in the desert?

>>133773971
fpbp

>>133792711
that would be a more logical train of thought than yours my friend

>>133792500
numbness was all i felt, didn't really hurt too much.

>>133792711
>assuming somebody is unarmed because they didn't use a weapon before
Do you see the flaw in your logic?

>>133792899
assuming someone is unarmed and and non-combative/not-homicidal because he obeyed the first "get on the ground", even if it was just for a little while.

>>133792711
seriously though, you state this like it is an unreasonable assumption on the part of the officer. you left (a violation of his orders) before he had a chance to appropriately check you for weapons and determine that you were not a threat.

why do you feel you have some weight in negotiating the terms of a police encounter? most people follow the words of the officer because they understand they are backed with force.

>>133793161
see
>>133793147

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>>133773922
My grandfather was a police officer in the 40s and my dad said it was well known if you ran they wouldn't chase you any longer than it took to hit you with a .38, we need to go back

>>133793147
>even if it was just for a little while.

"Its ok officer, I only tried to run for a little while"
like i said in my post, there isn't any leeway here. why do you think you can negotiate the terms of a police encounter? you follow their orders exactly.

>>133793147
I'm honestly impressed at the cognitive leaps you make when thinking about this situation.
The situation evolves continuously, and just because you complied before but aren't anymore doesn't mean you don't have a weapon on you. As far as an officer is concerned, you're a threat unless you've been frisked. The taser helps that process without putting the officer and you in too much danger.

>>133793302
I surrendered by laying on the ground,
>spread eagle then arms crossed
for a little while
call me a dumb nigger, but if i where a cop, i wouldn't suspect that i was carrying any weapons
and we haven't even argued the fact that i was clearly pretty much wearing less than a bed
a bed sheet.
unless there's such thing as tactical slumber party gear.

>>133793775
>call me a dumb nigger
dumb nigger

>>133793775
>for a little while
this is the point where you are disenfranchised. if you resist an officer's orders, they arrest you. by design, the officers do not apply their judgement unevenly to different people in when to use force. they err on the side of force. the amount of clothing is irrelevant

i made a mistake
this>>133793147
was actually meant for >>133792985

Nobody except 1 of you has answered
>>133792577
3 years probation(parole? am first time criminal be patient) around 15 hours community service, up to $400 fine.

>>133794035
>if you resist an officer's orders, they arrest you.
*they can choose to arrest me

Why wouldn't he just take advantage of me being on the ground and detain me?
other than the "around blacks, never relax" argument?

>>133794666
Satanic trips demands response.

>>133794666
parole and probation are different things. Don't do anything stupid going forwards, try to behave like a normal human being, and you'll be fine. All things considered you got a slap on the wrist.

"he's belly down on the ground...
arms crossed behind his back...
should i cuff him?....
nah he'll prolly twist my neck off"

>>133794976
>Why wouldn't he just take advantage of me being on the ground and detain me?
>other than the "around blacks, never relax" argument?
you didn't give him a chance to detain you, you started to move away.
>>133792577
if you keep this retarded charade up instead of accepting full responsibility that what you did was wrong and the officer acted within the law, they will let you off piss easy

>>133795753
if you drop this charade***

>>133795219
they sound the same, and are both legal terms, idk honestly.

Can you enlighten me on what exactly it is what would happen if i don't comply?

>>133773922
>when is tasing ok?
When it's a minority

>>133786463
You do know cops have to be tased before they can use a taser, right?

>>133795753
i WAS on the ground long enough for him to make the decision to cuff me.

>>133796080
that is not your determination to make, nor is there any legal code that defines a length of time a suspect can be on the ground without police interaction before they can flee

>>133795219
thank you for the input,
ANYBODY ELSE?>>133794666
ANYBODY ELSE?>>133794666
ANYBODY ELSE?>>133794666
ANYBODY ELSE?>>133794666
ANYBODY ELSE?>>133794666

>>133795839
Going forward you'll have enough material and time to do the research yourself. The terms of your parole should be explicitly described to you. Read the papers you get, don't just skim over them as you did when blackbaring your private information earlier in the thread. A simple google search also helps. Take this with a grain of salt, as I am neither a lawyer nor a criminal.
>>133796080
you clearly weren't since you changed your mind halfway through.

>>133773922
>When is tasing a fleeing suspect okay?
Always. Cops should do it just for the keks.

>>133796199
Maybe if his body cam was on...
y tho?...
shouldn't they always be on?

If his body cam was on, and the video showed him just standing there doing nothing as i waited for him to detain me, what would that signify to you?

>>133796362
"This Willey nigger just tried to run away by running over my car, and now he's belly down on the ground spread eagle/arms crossed behind his back, *15 seconds-a whole minute passes"

>>133797279
why are you fixated on the amount of time you spent on the ground? he is legally allowed to keep you there for much longer than a minute

>>133797828
until...

>>133797888
im fucking done, please go waste your money fighting the case. it is no wonder you got the cops called over a computer mouse

Always.

Innocent people don't run. People who flee are automatically guilty of something and their apprehension is of more important than the small risk of death from the electric shock.

>>133798096
*lenny face*

>>133773922
if they stole something

AKA if theyre black

ANYBODY ELSE?>>133794666 (You)
ANYBODY ELSE?>>133794666 (You)
ANYBODY ELSE?>>133794666 (You)
ANYBODY ELSE?>>133794666 (You)
ANYBODY ELSE?>>133794666 (You)

>he forgot to turn on his body cam

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>>133798096
Holy shit, I just read the report.
>argument with mum about a computer
>cops called
>Paco too physically inept to jump a fence
>Walks over car for some reason
>gets on the floor under threat of a taser
>Taser gets put away, Paco gets up and starts walking away.
>Paco gets tased.
No tendies were served that night.

>>133799547
He would have reached me before i had made it half-way over, *taser get's put away*, *moment long enough for him to effectively detain me passes.*
also fence had 3 rows of barbed wire on top.

>>133799547
>we eat bone-in grilled leg's