Russian-Orthodox

>>133768456
Orthodoxy is the same hypocritical shit as everyone else /Thread

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>>133768917
How so? Im a dumb burger but I don't see the patriarch kissing the feet of blacks or letting in gays. I was part of a protestant youth group and they had a mixed race couple come in and talk about fucking social justice

>>133768456
the fuck is that a muslim putting a light in a church? lol

>>133770490
No dumbass, women wear veils in orthodoxy I believe

>>133770490
high quality bait

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>>133768456
No
They say you have to work your way to Heaven when the Bible says you only have to believe.
John 3
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Then they take James 2 out if context without reading Romans 4 or Galatians 3.

>>133771592
and in catholic churches explicitly until 1984

>>133771592
yeah in church

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>>133768456
Live your life in service of mummy.

Yes you should stop beeing a faggot

>>133770220
always makes me lol

>>133771592
Some women wear scarfs to cover their hair in the Cathedral. Some of the them wear scarfs whenever they are out of the house. They are not veiled

>abortion rates in Russia sky high
>porn
>degeneracy
>Islam
>birth rates a shit

Yah pick a religion based on politics thats real genuine of you

>>133768456
If you aren't Russian you can't join the Russian Orthodox Church. Orthodox churches are nationalist, and ethnically centered. They have Western Orthodox churches that are spun out of episcopalianism I think but they aren't part of the Eastern Orthodox heirarchy.

>>133768456
please do them a favour and respect their traditions
and therefore do not convert to them.

the last thing the churches need are faggots from pol.

>>133768456
Any Orthodox is good go for it

>>133772195
>forgets the Orthodox Church of America which is part of the Orthodox Catholic Church hierarchy

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>>133768456
Yes, the Eastern Orthodox Church is the only true and legitimate church.

>>133772195
those that do the service in english are universal in the us

>>133771620
If you truly believed in Christ and his teachings you would do good works in His name.
Your belief is demonstrated through practice. You must "practice what you preach" or you cannot be said to be a true believer.

>>133772232

No Christian thinks like this. But crypto Jews speak this way.

>>133770490
2/10 b8

>>133768456
Unless you know Russian you won't get a whole lot out of it. I would recommend you look at an English speaking Orthodox parish, there are many around.

>>133771861

Didn't work for you.

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>>133768456
>You can divorce your wife three times :^)
>You can wear condoms! Have lust filled orgies as much as you want! :^)
Being a fundamental baptist is the final redpill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPgk0Hv-eTc

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>>133772105
>>birth rates a shit

Actually no, the birth rates for white Russians are above replacement since last year. And porn is restricted since yesterday and about to be banned.

Any denomination you attend will be different in each community. There is huge variability. What is important is finding a group of true believers.

>>133772734
Yeah, I have a friend who used to go to an english speaking one, im not trying to be an edgy faggot, I genuinely am trying to improve myself and I guess I don't see much in the other churches I've tried besides pandering

>>133768456
Orthodox churches are very aesthetic. There are a few in my town, they look very nice. Not like that is a reason to convert, just saying.

>>133771620

> Ignore Ephesians 2:10

> Frame argument about muh salvation

> Rinse

> Repeat

No, that's just dumbed down Islam.

>>133772195
That's not true. There are branches of the Russian Orthodox church even in Japan, and a Japanese priest is technically eligible to become a patriarch.

That said, media provides quite a one-sided image of Russia, and I'd advise against falling in love with anything Russian. For example, the Orthodox Church is pretty much a corporation. OP could as well convert to Kraft Foods or Airbus.

>>133771620
>>133772784
Begone kikes, your scam of (((Protestantism))) has no power here.

>>133768456
Yes got for Orthodoxy, surely that will somehow be better than all the other sand nigger religions.

>>133768456
Are you ethnically Russian? Choose the religion of your own people.

Orthodox church literally enslaved their own people for the tsar's shekels. They made the church a place of business, just like the Catholics.

Only respectable form of Christianity is asceticism of any denomination.

>>133768456
>Modern (((protestantism)))
Not all protestants do that.

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>>133772784
>same post
>copy pasta
I feel as if /pol/ consists of 10 people taking amongst themselves
>>133379519

>>133773343
All Protestants are kikes LARPing as Christians, it just depends on how openly Jewish they want to be.

>>133773408
If it wasn't already abundantly clear; most content on /pol/ is a small, dedicated detachment of stormfront morons pretending their retarded views are common place. It's pretty funny to see tho.

>>133773217
No, i'm a mongrel, Scottish, Irish, German, and Dutch, I will shoot myself before I step foot in a church with those ((((protestants)))) ever again

>>133773150
>(((Protestantism)))
Baptist are not Lutherans. Baptists are even more conservative and promote less degeneracy than catholicism.
You guys have a communist pope. It's only a matter of time until a pope declares degeneracy acceptable and you catholics will eat it up like the little cucks you are because of "muh infallibility". Meanwhile baptist are never going to accept degeneracy because no one has the authority to change scripture.

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>>133773113
> the Orthodox Church is pretty much a corporation

this is exactly the Vatican , not Orthodoxy and I suggest you fall not too much in love with anything Catholic because they will feed you lies and call it a Church necessity.

Orthodox church literally enslaved their own people for the tsar's shekels.
>more nonsense , the Orthodox Churches take from donations amassed through centuries .

>>133772784
Silly Kraut want other to fail.

>>133773649
Become western rite orthodox or go SSPX. Those are the only two choices for a real Christian in the west.

>>133773773
Yeah, the pope is the biggest shill for the liberal agenda and i'll never follow him so I think I'll go with your suggestions

>>133768456

For anyone seriously converting to Orthodoxy please read the following books:

Spiritual Counsels I: With Pain and Love for Contemporary Man
Spiritual Counsels II: Spiritual Awakening
Spiritual Counsels III: Spiritual Struggle
Spiritual Counsels V: Passions and Virtues (Elder Paisios)

It's a good head start to when you go to Liturgy. God Bless you all.

>>133774213
no don't follow them they're all latinizing, go for the Antioch Orthodox that has no Antiocheans left an is in English if you have one near.

>>133772406
Which was started by the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia (ROCOR)

>>133772195
False. Also, Episcopalian is the name given to Anglicanism outside of England; which was a spinoff of Catholicism due to Henry VIII

>>133774563
>hating on the western rite
"Let no man tell you that to be Orthodox you must be Eastern or Byzantine." ~ St. John of San Francisco (probably paraphrased.)

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Forch is ill with the idealization of Russia, Orthodoxy is a pagan cult of luxury and gold, Adoration of matter, instead of fighting everything material, it does not contribute to spirituality, it is rather an ancient ritual of indulgence, when one can purchase one's sins

>>133775049
You must be Eastern 100% that's the difference between 'Orthodox' and Orthodox. That's a very Catholic viewpoint of the letter versus the spirit.

Very few Protestants/Catholic even scholars get it. Proddies a little more , but I was watching an Orthodoxy scholar from Oxford and he had it wrong in 5 minutes (for reasons).

>>133775341
Muslim albanian, please shut the fuck up already

>>133772900
Russia has been aware of and has been fighting their declining white demographic problem for a lot longer than the west has.

Where just recently the West has been starting to realize the crisis we're getting ourselves into and you have the whole
>make white babies
thing

This element has been one of Russian government's #1 concern for a while. Their growing policies on
>gays
>birth control
>health
>Islam
>Porn
>Foreign adoption

and so on almost all come back the growing Russian government's concern that in a few decades they won't have enough white people to keep watch on a defunctional nuclear arsenal. And under direct geographical threat of muslim invasion, that's a big fucking deal.

There's nothing special about the Russian-Orthodox church though

>>133775807
So you're being Orthodox by directly contravening a saint? That's interesting.

>>133776075
Saint john of san fransisco doesnt sound like one of my saints, buddy

>>133776205
ROCOR, therefore Eastern Orthodox.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Shanghai_and_San_Francisco

>>133773254
That is a very poor understanding of history. Orthodoxy places a heavy emphasis on asceticism. The fasting rule they encourage is called the "black fast" by Catholics and is noted for being difficult.

>>133770220
>take greeek georgian or serbian
russia was a mistake

>>133776315
Ok it's St. John of Shanghai, well according to what I understand from your quote he meant (you) to be Byzantine , not the rite . You must absolutely be Eastern in the Church as the others with a couple exceptions are sham 'Orthodox' . Now quit tweaking words . You are on the wrong side and it is unfortunate , but you must purge a lot to become of the same purity.

>>133776564
It has difficult fasting , twice a week not even oil or wine . Struggle to keep it .

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>>133775807
>> albanian
Hello Friend

>>133773098
how it's going magamed?

>>133774929

Anglicanism isn't any more of a 'catholic spinoff' than any other Protestant denomination.

>>133777259
Interesting theory.
https://vimeo.com/224781349
These priests are all either Antiochian or ROCOR, you're telling me they're wrong despite being ordained and in communion with the Eastern Church?

>>133773494
this

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>>133773656
>Meanwhile baptist are never going to accept degeneracy because no one has the authority to change scripture.

That's why the King James version is the true translation of the Bible...oh wait...

Muricans Baptists are goddamn retards yelling in their woodshed in Arizona...

https://youtu.be/ttxumEkHnKE

>>133773656
Baptists are probably the third most retarded heresy behind Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses.
>Deny the Saints
>Deny the True Presence
>Deny the Church Fathers
>Christian
Begone Kike.

>>133768456
The reason Russian Orthodoxy doesn't promote denegeracy (yet) is because people following it are living in 1900s. Once they catch up to the modern world it would be as "degenrate" and accepting as other religions. Russians are themselves living in poverty and would modernise the second they had the chance to.

>>133777742
thats why I despise catholics , they're brainwashed , you can't talk with one without having a hectic discussion the misses the point

> if theyre in communion with the Eastern church , then they're practically Eastern , but wait a second why should they listen to latin, go do it in english so they understand the liturgy they hear
>>133778666
begone satan

>>133768456
Yes you should do it the orthodox church is the last moral church in europe

>>133778773
The irony being I'm not Catholic and I'm attempting to have an actual discussion.

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>>133778584
Bu the Bible is so important, brah...you know, the bIble who was put together by the Cathotic church...

Ps:Evangelicals and Pentecostals are worst

https://youtu.be/zIioOvwaT3A

>>133768456
There's so much wrong in your post. A large part of it being cuckstianity of course. The fact is, you can't "convert", you can only align with. But cuckstains want to maximize their numbers so they compromise, lie and bait people not into believing anything they say (that's easy to achieve through cult indoctrination tactics later on) but into STATING that they believe. That's literally not how faith works in any way or shape. This is also why every christcuck is a cuck (beside of course the ideology they follow).

>>133768456
fuck off, we're full.

>>133778903

The guy at 1:00 in that video is sucking in more air than Andross from the starfox games. wow

>>133770220

Kissin' putin's feet ain't based.

>>133778898
in that case keep it simple and don't confuse everyone , you proposed the sspx which are renegade catholics , whats that got to do with orthodoxy ? let the faithful enter the catechumene, being an aspiring Orthodox, get educated, try which church is best and then decide instead of directing that guy to some fringe outfits, if you can

>>133768456
dont listen to him >>133779036 ,try the faith
any Orthodox will do

>>133776564
>Orthodoxy places a heavy emphasis on asceticism
Blacks like: 50 cents and Floyd Mayweather, more ascetic than our patriarch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LirUf2oJ4vw

>>133773044
It says to do goid worjs dummy not that you have to to be saved. Literally read the 2 verses before.

>>133772559
Yes you should still do good works. Doing good works will get you rewarded(Rev 22:12) but won't make you more likely to be saved.

>>133779490
bet you that your monks blow 50 cent and florence the fuck out , the faith comes from there , not from the church leader and you know it

>>133779484
SSPX is a default answer I give, a lot of places in the US don't have Orthodox churches but will have SSPX parishes, force of habit more than anything else.

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>>133777991
you have a nice gril collection.

>>133779516

> It's not about Soteria, it's about Logos

> It's not about Logos, it's about Soteria

> Frame

> Rinse

> Repeat

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>>133779928
With her right hand on top of it...sickening.

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>>133778773
I think I'll stay faggot

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No Catholics or Muds allowed

>roman catholic papacy = the little horn of Daniel's sea beast

>Daniel 7: "After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: >it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had >ten horns. I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns >plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things...Thus he said, The fourth >beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, >and break it in pieces. And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be >diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the >most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

>the beast
represents the roman empire
>10 horns
The roman empire in Europe was divided into 10 kingdoms after it collapses
>the little horn that pops up and removes 3 horns and exalts itself above all
The pope came from romanism and claimed to be god on earth, and often exiled/punished kings
>changing times and laws
romanism changed the sabboth from saturday to sunday, pagan holidays, added laws forbidding mirage, (which the nt condemns)

https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/184-little-horn-of-daniels-sea-beast-the

>>133780021
the hell are you talking about

>>133773722
>Orthodox church literally enslaved their own people for the tsar's shekels.
>more nonsense , the Orthodox Churches take from donations amassed through centuries .
The (Russian) Orthodox church just does whatever is necessary for the survival of the state during crises, like everything else in Russia.

>>133780039

Who is the dummy?

The guy who says I got my handstamped for all time, so now I don't have to cooperate with God any more? Adultery? Swindling Others? Murder?

You can't accept that you made up "once saved, always saved." It's a tough pill to swallow.

For the 1600 years prior to that, cooperation with good was no insignificant thing.

>>133775959
Do you really think fucking KAZACHSTAN will invade us? KEK

>>133780716
Did he say you should sin? No, he didn't and he kicks people out of his church for doing that.

>>133779727

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF00JJ13l7Y

what does AAAAANAAAAAAATHEMA mean?
also please keep posting, this is an interesting threda.

>>133780875

No, a saved person is not called to sin but to have faith. Good works are a fruit of that faith.

When Pastor Anderson prayed for the death of the President, he showed neither faith nor good works. But he could do it all the same, because he had his handstamped.

>>133768456
Most anti-zionist christians. Read Dostoevsky, Gogol, Soltzy etc. Then you'll know it's right.

Jews hate Orthodox Christianity because throughout history it's be very counter-semetic. And this is also why you see so much RUSSIA RUSSSIA RUSSIA on (((CNN))). They can't stand how putin made their origarchs powerless and kicked out the rest, or killed them.

Jews are eternally butthurt about Russia.

>>133781343
Yeah he shouldn't have done that but everyone still sins after believing. Doesn't mean you should sin but if you say you have never lied since beliveing you're probably lying and any lie will get you to the lake of fire (Rev 21:8/27 22:15)

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>>133781297
Classic half-retarded nigger...Niggers really fuck up everything they touch

https://youtu.be/2W51STsKkUo

Ask God for guidance, not /pol. This is a board of Christian LARPers and degenerates. No human holds the answers you seek anyway.

Abrahamic faiths muh chosen ones the true redpill ain't going to be kosher!