daily reminder both libertarians and civic nationalists don't

>>133750548

As a conservative, I do.

Reminder that ethno-nationalist don't care about free markets and entrepreneurship and are cool with poor white people on welfare.

Conservatism is the best of both worlds if people would stop being faggots.

>>133750743
Hitler put people in camps if they were able to work but refused to.

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>>133750548
>implying this is an argument

I hope that bitch dies gagging on black dick.

>>133750548
black cock is the best. meaty, thick and powerful.

I love strange black cock up my ass every chance I get. I get it on craigslist, I get it on grindr. all i have to do is post my pink white rosebud asshole and big black cocks run down my door to fill my hole withe their slave semen.

Yes I am your typical libertarian.

>>133750548
Stop being a bigot you larping nazi faggot, you're ruining our movement! Young people don't care about color, as long as we share the same set of ideals we are allies. Stop listening to nazi fags!

>>133750743
>are cool with poor white people on welfare.
>implying helping with people in need is not something positive
unless they are abusing the system there is nothing wrong with helping whites in need

>>133751431
Israel is more aware of reality than 90% of so-called ''redpilled internet dwellers'' that browse 4chan

>>133751431
stop being a jew

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>>133750548
This is exactly why I stopped being a libertarian

Its a nice idea if everyone is moral but we clearly and not living in a time like that

Maybe in early American history it would have been possible...I mean we basically were...the taxes were so low and you could basically do anything you wanted

>>133750743
>ethno-nationalist don't care about free markets and entrepreneurship and are cool with poor white people on welfare.

Actually almost by definition ethno nationalists want their own kind looked after

What the hell makes you think theyd be fine with poor white people?

>>133750548
>me on the left

>>133751457
A welfare state is degenerate by design, any NatSocs who claims otherwise is simply a cryptomarxist

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>>133751295
Anon, tell me about your relationship with your father. Was there abuse? Was he there at all? Did you like it when Chad Thundercock gave you titty twisters in high school?

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>>133750548
hmmm

>>133756933
>black ancap
You mean a criminal with a political impulse? Spare me the antics.

>>133750548
So what would be a one or two word term for a nationalist libertarian society who expects its people to behave themselves and not be faggots?

>>133750548
as long as people mind their own business.

>>133750548
who people want to sleep with or reproduce with, is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. unless you want to be told who you can love or not? is that what you want?

The free market includes of itself checks and balances sufficient to restrain degeneracy and putrid society enough to keep things functional. I just don't care what people do as long as I can live my life the way I want to myself. Markets are feral enough to chew up idiots and spit them out. Sometimes markets are even also smart enough to chew up idiots and spit out productive citizens! We just have to stop stealing money to subsidize failure in this country.

most western men are addicted to whores

These whores don't have a single problem with LGBTQ+, sex education for kids or jihadists invading because they will always find a way to survive by opening their legs and in the end if someone pay their bills that's what matters

People don't often pay attention but at least 70% of people in pro-immigration rallies are women.

>>133756933
>manlet myspace view

every time lmfao.

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>>133757925

>don't mind degeneracy and putrid society as long as there is free market

We offer the only way to have sustainable anti-degenerate communities.

>>133750548
Degeneracy is imposed by jewish media monopolies, but monopolies are compatible only with right libertarianism, not with left libertarianism.

>>133758020
Degeneracy is where the money is. Keep minding your own business while your daughter is drowned in thug culture and breed mulattoes for the ZOG.

>>133750548
>civic nationalists

The term civic nationalist is incredibly broad, civic nationalists that think anti-degeneracy should be apart of that civic nationalism would disagree.

>>133750548
What makes a pretty white girl like this get on her knees for some random ugly baboon?

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Civi nationalism in a nutshell:
"As long as my tax is low women can bring jihadists and africans to my country as much as they want''

>>133750913
I'm fucking lazy but who's so lazy they get shipped off to a camp?

>>133750548

...now that bitch is born again frum and married to some Jewcuck.

>>133750548
two pornstars

fuck off op

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>>133758592
>why women have no love for civilization
you tell me

>>133750548
get outta here you commie

>>133758020
>Sometimes markets are even also smart enough to chew up idiots and spit out productive citizens!

Most of the time markets will chew in productive citizens and spit out niggers (Kardashits), (((oligarchs))) or flat out idiots with a nice face.

>>133750548
Why the fuck is this myth that civic nationalists support race mixing? Brazilian Integralism was very much against mixing races, they just didn't to genocide the fuck out of everyone living there.

>>133759019

Polish looking broads but British looking wall using grape for ivy.

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>>133753852

Same here senpai, during my teenage years I thought I was libertarian as well. A libertarian society may work in a completely racially and culturally homogenized nation, but as long as we live in a world where people of other races exist and have the ability to come to white nations, libertarian policies will always fail. This reason as well as my belief that the downfall of the white race and the beginning of pc culture is, besides from Soviet ideological subverts, predominately caused by Americas Laissez-faire capitalistic dogma and the cultural poison that is mass-consumerism.

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>>133750548
Don't worry lolbertarians get the rope too

>>133750548
I mean personally I dont really give a shit.

If you have a moral populace with strong traditions and values then the society will not be degenerate.

That isnt for the government to fix that is for the people to fix and maintain.

We dont have a leftist Marxist elite class that corrupted the people, we have cultural degeneracy and it has allowed the Marxists to gain power.

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>>133750548
Strawman, the argument.

>>133750548
>tries to argue in favor of socialism
>argument always comes down to "feelings"
every.
time.

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>>133750548
Absolutely correct.

>>133750548
>all the civic nationalist cucks this post triggered
just admit it, you guys want black cock down your throat

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>>133759661
The state has the duty and role to guide and organise society in order to achieve communal goals you retarded lolbergtarian faggot

> b b but muh freedumbs to shove stuff up my ass ooga booga!!!

>>133750743
Enjoy your nigger-hispanic grandchildren

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How does your ideal future society look like?
Is it an all-white suburbia society? An absolute government?

My vision for the best possible future, is a government whose only function it is to uphold a series of basic laws, where it is virtually impossible to change these laws.
Freedom of choice, which include degeneracy, will be of the essence.
With the emergence of bio-engineering of humans, +100-300 years from now, humanity will be absurdly visually diverse, with a complete lack of culture, except for the culture of hierarchy which are embedded in a capitalistic society.

>>133759698
If a land owner in an ancap society decides he needs cheap workers from africa nobody can stop him amirite?

daily reminder that a beta loser cuck LARPing as a Nazi saves BBC porn and black fetish shit on his computer to post on an anonymous image board

Pathetic.

>>133758648
Jews

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>>133750548

>>133759845

I can understanding the idea of needing the power of the state to recover from where we are now, But I think that endeavor would fail.

Our people became corrupted and the government we have and institutions we have are representative of an immoral and corrupt populace.

The only solution long term is a collapse and a rebuilding.


We are far beyond the point of course correction.

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>>133750548
mfw i realize i don't care

>>133759954
Which is exactly why they recoiled from arbeit macht frei

>>133760051
Hitler cleaned up Berlin the cesspool of interwar Europe and on all accounts even worse than modern day San Francisco is less than a year


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Fc0Jtp20c

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>>133758878
I wonder what the room smells like.
Any guesses?

>>133758878
Do you see how ugly those blacks are? Everyone of them!. The white trash is pretty nasty too. But literally trying to find a black person that isn't repulsive is almost impossible.

This thread reeks of virginity and /r9k/

>>133750548
BASED BLACK MAN™

YES, TRULY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT FOR AMERICA.

MORE NIGGERS FUCKING LOW IQ WHITE TRASH WHORES.

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With the lose of a social-government whom will engage in wealth distribution, the global society will break over, into the rich whom will enjoy a lifestyle that would appear alien to most of the poor. The poor which will be the vast majority of humanity, will live in a weird form of poverty, they will have high-tech device but will lack other more essentiels - similarly to how Africans have smartphones but don't have a toilet.

In the future "kin" will have almost no value, apart from an aesthetic value. The groups we will belong and identify with will be through our position in the capitalistic hierarchy i.e. wealth.

>>133760281

While literally having to kill and suppress dissent and turning the entire world against him.

Hitler was able to reverse German degeneracy through horribly unethical and immoral means for a total of 10 years and then got millions of Germans killed and the nation reduced to rubble.

Toats worth it brah!

Hitler didn't save Germany, he led one last glorious backlash.

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>>133759661

Capitalism will always end up anti-moral and anti-traditionalist. People will always want to consume the lowest from of entertainment that appeals to our lowest form of selves (video games, junk food, nigger music, drugs). The Capitalist and Tycoons of the modern world fully realize this and push for degenerate culture because it will result in more profits. Also, it is my belief that the destruction of identity and turning all of humanity into a homogenized brown underclass of uneducated consumers is the eventual goal of world wide mass-consumerism. Unless we take a stand and through totalitarian policies, uproot the cultural decay that has taken over the west and purge mass-consumerism once and for all, the sickness will inevitably take hold again and destroy the west.

>>133750548

1) A lot of current degeneracy is subsidized by the state

2) In a libertarian society, degeneracy would be privately funded, and in rare cases by donations

3) Perhaps the most logical social organization in a libertarian society would be private covenant based communities. There would be communities that don't tolerate such degeneracy.

Now I hope you paid your taxes so that pregnant smoker single-mother Shaniqua can get child security for her 8 fatherless kids. It can get hard for her since she's also studying Gender Studies at her public university. Hopefully she'll have enough money left to dye her hair and get some tattoos, too.

>>133760746
>we should not win because we are going to lose
Typical lolberg concession trash

>>133750548
Daily reminder that Americans who would trade liberty for a totalitarian ethnostate are traitors and shame their forefathers.

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>>133750548
I'm going to make a systemic case for degeneracy from a capitalist perspective.
1. It's great for business.
Degeneracy is a hearty pursuit, it consumes a lot of resources, and market research shows that customers are focused, driven, and ready to make large purchasing decisions when degeneracy is at its maximum.
2. Social Capital Structure
Silicon Valley Maoists are at their heart social engineers. They're doubling down on some of Bernays' research. Advertising pays the bills, but steering the goyim towards a more perfect utopia is the real goal. The reason they promote the BBC meme is not as you think, it's to re-align the social capital of blacks. It hasn't translated to black women so you now see that dimension of race mixing promoted... For a capitalist this simply means that I can use advertising to create and destroy entire markets by directing the libido of the market. No libido, no sale.
3. Decreasing sales resistance.
Sales resistance is a kind of negative measure of self-reliance. A high sales resistance means you have no need to buy anything. That's bad. A low sales resistance means you have many needs. It's been found that the longer a person can delay pleasure, the higher their sales resistance is, permanently. So if we allow people to seek as much pleasure as they like, their sales resistance will be much lower. This is great! (shekelhands)
4. MUHFREEDOM
If the government is deciding what is and is not degenerate, is this not statism? Where are your churches? What role does your local community or (GOD FORBID) family say about this? It's none of the system's goddamned business, and I'll shoot you if you say it is. Manage your own affairs, fuckboy.

>>133760929
He literally ruined the Germany people for a fucking century you autistic faggot.


>we might lose

You will lose and extinguish millions of lives in the process and for what?

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>>133761099

>>133760746
Universal human rights don't exist. The freedumbs you value so much under the decadent repugnant liberal "democracy" are fake and a travesty. You have no inherent right to be a degenerate freak you always operate under the license of society. Preserving the moral character of society with any means necessary and reversing social decay is a moral necessity and the most noble goal.

>turning the entire world against him
That just means he was right unless you think the modern world we ended up with is the pinnacle of human achievement

>>133758648

Its not like you HAD to work if you could take care of yourself financially.
But if you coudl work but refuse to take jobs offered to you and choose to leech instead you would be put into a boot camp and basically reeducated into being a productive member of society meaning you would be forced to have a tight daily schedule in said camp.

>>133760746

lol, you think Hitler was attacked because he was going full fashy and purging degenerates and Jews from his society. The Allies only started getting butt-hurt because Hitler kept annexing countries in Europe. If Hitler had just kept to himself and stopped after the annexation of the Sudetenland, the Second World War would not have happened.

>>133761185
The truth is always repulsive to commies.

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>>133750548
>He hasn't read Hoppe

>>133761151
This is the most ridiculous argument.

>we should die because we will die otherwise

Fuck off

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>>133761408
Ancaps are trully repulsive. I honestly hate you freaks more than commies

>>133761371
OKay so you admit Hitler is a fucking retard, which he was.

His sentimates about protecting and preserving his people were right, his suspiciouns about powers trying to undermine society and the evils of Marxims were right.

But going NAT SOC like him politically was an unmitigated disaster.

Much better to build a groundswell within the society like we are now.

IT is still probably hopeless but maybe we can halt the decline for a few decades.

Be more like the Marxists, play the long game.

>>133761408
>literally making a case for fucking degeneracy
You guys are the biggest kike tools I've ever seen.

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>>133761028
I dare you watch this webm and claim that total liberty won't lead to a totalitarian marxist state
>>133761599
(((Rothbard)))
(((Mises)))
(((Friedman)))
(((Hayek)))

>>133761702

Hitler did everything right except beign too merciful on the Anglos.

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>>133761185
>>133761599
>>133761746
I noticed that none of these things are arguments or remotely related to my point...Is that because commies never have an argument?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_fallacy

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>>133761746
In the protocols of zion the kikes literally say they will control the narrative by making people only talk about economic utopias (communism x libertarianism) while society degenerates and destroys everything.

Lolbergs should read it instead of kike pozed academic trash.

>>133762453
Oops looks like you forgot to put your ancap flag back on, shilling in multiple threads at once are we, kike?

>>133761099
Pirate flag
>>133762453
Republican flag

What did me mean by this?

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>>133750913
>put people in camps if they were able to work but refused to
Under socialism they were charged and convicted of the crime of parasitism

>>133750548
Why do black people even bother getting tattoos

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>>133763020

>>133762562
Protocols of Zion is the most accurate book ever
When people say ''oh it's fake it's a conspiracy'' you know they are either afraid of reading it or they are spreading disinformation

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>>133750548
daily reminder that niggers are cute to white women

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>>133756933
>Manlet angle shot

wew

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>>133750548
tfw your husband is at home cooking food while you and your friend are out after work

>>133763249
I bet 30 minutes earlier they were in a progressive rally about patriarchy and how to stop white oppression

>>133763398
Why are there random naked men in this group

Context?

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>>133763107
I kek'd

>>133750548
The fuck are talking about. I just want societal pressure to be the solution not government.

>>133763462
world "nude tour" and those girls thought it was cute that a nigger was among them and took pictures with him

>>133763020
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>133763020
Image on the right should be a homeless man reaching up and shouting "GIB" to the wealthy capitalist

>>133759954
And that's why they took the children too? You're bullshiting.

>>133763609
how can the goyim survive without democracy and nude world tour?

>>133750548
You're right, I don't care.

You statist dicksucks make me sick. Need Big Brother to make all the decisions for you, while taking away half your paycheck to pay for niggers like this to procreate, you hypocritical swine.

Leave me alone on my ranch. It is covered in IEDs reserved for statists/communist SJW's.

>>133763613
>>133763619
you lazy NEET faggots have a problem with imprisoning the able who refuse to work or what

>>133763609
wtf is a world nude tour?

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>all libertarians are ancaps
The retards are. Minarchism is the true aim. Society cannot function properly without archon, but it cannot be so powerful as to spit in the faces of its people and continue onwards like in our current society.

Power belongs to the people, you scum wanting centralized government are no different than the commies. You should just move to /leftypol/, you'll find you'll have much more in common than you're comfortable with.

>>133758878
i always thought this was one was pretty funny

>>133764118
they bike through london nude dno wtf its called nude world bike tour or uk nude bike tour

>>133763952
>implying i'm not a socialist myself

>>133764306
Yeah it usually makes me angry too but that one in particular just looks fucking stupid, she looks like a fucking cretin and she doesn't look like she's enjoying herself at all, she has an expression that says "how the fuck did I end up here? please don't take pictures"

>>133764373
my bad newfriend

>>133764167
Lol, nice mem americunt brah.

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>>133759563
>Polish women in Britain
Not really a big fucking surprise is it? There are a million of "le based Mexicans of Europe" over here shitting up our country even more than it already is.

Minarchism is the way to go, the only problem is that it requires a VERY culturally strong society so that degeneracy doesn't spread.
And yes, my geographical location has a lot to do with my answer, as someone who saw second-hand the way the commies brought back my country's economy back to 1921 by the time they were done with running the country.

>>133750548
I legitamately don't see the problem /pol/ has with non whites. race is really just judging people based on how they look and not how they act.

>>133761702
>Be more like the Marxists, play the long game.
The only game Marxists play is how fast they can starve the entire human population to death.

>>133763609
>cute
we all know why they gathered around him.
a good man has good equipment!

>>133750548
Wrong. Social pressure enforces morality.

Degeneracy is counter intuitive to profits. Why would I as a business owner hire the immoral or those that cannot effectively work without unreasonable accommodation?

>>133763020
>crime of parasitism
Parasitism can only happen in socialist systems.

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>>133750743
>Reminder that ethno-nationalist don't care about free markets and entrepreneurship and are cool with poor white people on welfare.

>>133763952
>imprisoning the able who refuse to work
The able who refuse to work starve to death under capitalism.

>>133750548
I can't stop feeling like I'm looking at a group of different animals than the rest of us - when I see blacks together.

>>133766544
Your whole comment gives off a faggy aura.

>>133750548
He has a little dick though.

>>133766698
If as an able-bodied healthy individual you refuse to work, you will not be given gibs. But we are not going to let you beg & scrape on the streets, do petty theft, assault people, or any of the other disgusting degenerate things we are used to seeing in our towns and cities. You will be removed from society for your own protection and the safety of the people. I have no problem with this, you?

>>133758648
Probably about 13% of our population would be that lazy.

>>133767340
Not an argument.

>>133766544
Ancaps always redefine degeneracy in order ot make out that it is somehow incompatible with the free market. It's not. The free market is what drove women into the workplace. The free market is what drives middle class white couples to be childless in order to have more free time and money. Tindr is an absolute free market for dating, perfect competition if you will, and look at the results. The "invisible hand" is another way of saying the cumilative effects of the base animal desires of humans.

>>133767576
My argument is that you probably like cuckold porn.

>>133761875

WTF

>>133750548
Both are one step behind the Marxists as the biggest traitors to the Western world. Under their lead, every problem in the West would persist and probably be exacerbated due to a lack of a strong central govt. They have more in common with our enemies than us.

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>>133767878
true

>>133767787
Nice ad hom. Porn is degenerate. Do you honestly think I would hate à fascist society that enforced morality? Just leave my private property and money alone.

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>>133762790
No sir. I just know how to wear a mask.
https://www.verywell.com/what-are-jungs-4-major-archetypes-2795439
You on the other hand are a brainlet trapped by a goyim slave religion and can't tell your ego from your asshole. Wonderful perspective you have there commie.

>>133751431
nice try shlomo

>>133767671
The jews intefering caused all of this. It is not a result of capitalism. It is the symptom of cultural Marxism. Capitalism is fine if you remove jews

>>133767546
That would remove all possibilities for redemption. It takes between 45 and 61 days to starve to death or 1 week to die from dehydration, during that period the individual can at any time change his mind. Under communism he isn't allowed to change his mind and is forced to work in camps.

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>>133761099

>>133768171
Why are you talking about the economy? do you want an all White society or not?

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>>133767671
Brainlets can't understand that ANCAP is descriptive, not prescriptive. Anarcho-Capitalism is what happens when you don't do anything at all. It's humanity's default setting. Any other political philosophy is a perversion of this setting. The sole purpose of the republic, because you're a brainlet and would never pick this up from idk, reading the republic, is to define how much we ought to deviate from ANCAP.
I wear ancap flag to signify that all you niggers are wrong, because you don't even know how to have the conversation. Look how much progress you've made from the 30's equivalent of fake news....sad desu senpai...this is why i wont be sad to copter you commies....im hoping we can find a better way.

>>133768304
>I don't have a counter point to this criticism of free markets
>I'll just say it was the jews to shut the nazis up

>>133750548
straight up storm fag shit
must feel good being a white nigger?

>>133768459
Yes. I also want every other race to practice the same things in their own nations. Hitler allowed personal enterprise in Germany. Hardly anything short of the railroads were nationalized.

Not all libertarians support immorality. I am religious and believe in racial science

>>133751295
milo shill your shitty book somewhere else.

>>133768664
Hitler allowed free markets yet there was none of the degeneracy you just described. Why is that?

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>>133768455
You know. Deep down. You're fodder for the state.
I have come to terms with it enough to hope to turn a profit.
How comfortable are you right now, goyim?
How much winning do you really do?

>>133750913
Hitler confirmed:
anti
>NEET
???

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Related pic is quite literally the only solution left.

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>See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i8Zoo83qtc
>The top comments are people who got there from a porn music video mashup
>See said porn video
>It's actually impressive
>mfw

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>>133763020
Ftfy.

>>133768628
>Anarcho-Capitalism is what happens when you don't do anything at all. It's humanity's default setting.

That would be called anarchism. Ancap relies on an established definition of property rights, which are an ill defined and vague construct. The fact you start appealing to a professed education in political philosophy without knowledge of this historical disagreement only shows your own ignorance.

>>133757992
Have fun with nigger kids

>>133768725
>I also want every other race to practice the same things in their own nations.

Only some Asians seem to be up for that everyone else just wants to cuck the White man steal his shit and fuck his women

Also , yeah. Muh freedom yadda yadda i agree with all of that.

>>133763530
what about having the manlet sit on the shoulders of the tall dude

>>133763237
wtf. she people need to be shot

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>>133763020
Did you know that the only people capable of falling for Communism have iq's between 85 and 95. Yes, other strata intelligence will fall for it, but to varying degrees. The most common tovarish is the mediocre tovarish, iq between 95 and 115, they believe themselves to be smarter for understanding the complex wonders of marxian thought. Above that is the management class, these are people who scientology would consider 'operating thetans' as in they get the game, but continue to play because sunk cost fallacy has them, iq 115 to 135, these are the fore front of marxian thought. Above 135 is the occult/psycopathic elite, who literally have to eat shit to justify themselves....Goyim slave religions are dark, senpai.

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>>133769289
False. Pure anarchism neglects the social mechanisms in play. It is an utterly invalid description to describe the default setting. You're a brainlet so you don't really question dogma, or really think a problem out and shit...real real sad...real sad...go get a government job bro.

>>133750548
Also anacap's mosr degenerate. Becuse they are pedos and gays.

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>>133761599
Are Ancap fags actually just backwards ass desert people larpers from 2000 years ago?
Selling children? Not obliged to feed and take care of them? I own the rights to one, but yet I don't also there's a kiddie market now?

WEW
E
W

>>133770138
Dude , you're like smart and stuff. Trust me , i can tell.

>>133751295
Milo?

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>>133770309
Don't let the learned helplessness kill you before you reach your prime...abandon this degenerate religion and find god. I will pray for your soul.

>>133768388
So who the fuck is going to say "take me to a slave camp" instead of accepting work that would support oneself? Frankly, I couldn't care less, but the point is we're not going to leave them to chimp out on the streets, shit and piss everywhere, and commit petty crimes against average decent citizens. They need to be removed.

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haha wew

>>133770607
Pfft , how about this? "God Is Dead".

I came up with that , cause i'm like really smart.

>>133767546
When that was allowed it wasn't real Communism.

>>133770376
https://youtu.be/5e5IUmkAZ2g
>Milo YianoPUTOlips

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>>133770841
Your god is dead. Because you're a failed human. You're already in hell Tovarish, protip: its a waiting room for the meat grinder. You'll have your revolution as soon as moloch gets his world war 3.

>>133760407

40oz's, black and milds, cocoa butter

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>>133760332
that is one hell of a subtle merchant

>>133771254
Pfft , you'll see when we implement real Communism. That's shit's gonna be so cash you don't even know.

free freedom:
https://www.igolder.com/pgp/encryption/

>>133753852
once there is any form of welfare libertarian ideas go out the window.

>>133756644
You understand most marxists actually agree that the welfare state is wrong too yes? It only exists to prop up the areas where capitalism has failed due to greed or other reasons, and if capitalism where to reign without intervention there would be more people without work.

The only way to fix the problem of welfare is to abolish the system that creates the need for welfare and that is by abolishing capitalism, put companies into public ownership (not government state ownership there is a difference) and get the people who can work into work

>>133770138
>False. Pure anarchism neglects the social mechanisms in play. It is an utterly invalid description to describe the default setting.

There is no such thing as the "default setting". Humans are fundamentally malleable creatures. That's why even ignoring race, different people exhibit different behaviours depending on which cultural and of course historical settings they occur in. Perhaps you are referring to prehistoric man, in which case anarcho-capitalism would be a far from appropriate description of any kind of socio-political "setting" for the times. For one, your sense of "property" did not exist - that which "belonged" to prehistoric man was exclusively that which he could defend from other tribes with physical force, and even that which belonged to him in fact belonged to his tribal -collective- (I emphasise this word) linked by blood ties, not "voluntarism". And I'm sure you can work out for yourself how preposterous any conception of the "NAP" would be to animalistic man, in fact it simply does not befit your insisted notion of "natural law".

>brainlet
>real real sad...real sad...go get a government job bro.

It's always amusing to see ancaps uniformally arguing like children whilst being the self-proclaimed masters of "logic and reason".

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>>133761151
Because you faggots sided with Jew communists and attacked him over liberating his people from Poland.

You then sold Poland to the Soviets.

Educate yourself you dumb faggot

>>133766866
Hahahah i fucking love this gif. Peter is bae

>>133761286
THIS

>>133750548
me on the right (literally)

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>>133771583
Yeah, they're probably gonna take a go at it over at Facebook and the same essential logical fallacy will crash the whole thing. It's almost like the difference between commies and not is being able to pull off the Feynman method without getting personally asshurt if you had a dumbshit idea.

>>133756644
Natsoc is inherently supportive of the welfare state.

Read a book burger

>Not realizing that AnCap would lead to the supervenience of moral laws that come only by peer pressure since they can't be enforced by law
>Implying they're not the hardest to break
Nazi LARPers once again can't into sustainability

>>133750548
Does libertarianism and civic nationalism make the leftist shriek? No. There you go.

What makes them shriek? Military dictatorship. There you go. The solution to all human problems.

>>133750743
This is true, but only if your particular branch of conservatism distances itself from both the muh Gad-tier paleocons and from shitty cuckservative warmongerers who yell muh proposition nation at every race or immigration related issue, because any real solution would be too controversial.

>>133772383
ancap leads to surveillance and social engineering

ancap without the cap leads to exactly what it implies

anarchy

>>133750548
She looks like a Jewess.

>>133772196
I'll just assume you're being racist against me cause i don't know what you're talking about.

You bigots always do that.

In an Ancap society you could have your "degeneracy-free" territory perfectly fine.

>>133764167
>This is the reason I push farther than what I actually want

I'm fine with minarchism.

>>133772383
An individualistic world of competition and pursuit of material gain is antithetical to collective enforced morality

>>133772970
good luck with that

randintgen initiate

>>133771750
Libertarian means I can be right and call you a dickfart at the same time. I have no idea why more people don't take such wonderful liberty...maybe you're a pussy? That's an ad hominem, i know im doing it, but it's let's say, a part of the argument.
The default setting on the micro level, the constant from which all macro perspectives are derived is that which the mother values to give the child maximum advantage. (i called you a pussy because you still want the mother state to give you maximum advantage, so you speak as a disgusting subhuman) In order to arrive at the default setting of humans (im making a species split here that you cant yet comprehend so hold on to your forehead ridges) you have to rationalise that a tribe collectively will trade in terms of that which is most valuable in the mother's eyes to the children ... if a foreign tribe can find common enough terms to trade, or at least not violate the nap, they remain human... finding common terms for trade and rejecting the notion of human sacrifice as necessary for competition with other groups is anarcho capitalism.
It's the default setting of humans. If you violate the nap, you're out of the species. That's all there is to it.

>>133772970
You already can. Trespassing is against the law.

>>133750548
Daily reminder that girls grandfather/great grandfather likely fought for her country and perhaps even lost his life defending his nation so that she could do that.

>>133773031

1776 America was the smallest government earth ever saw.

Look where it is now -- REMEMBER THOMPSON'S LAW.

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>>133758290
>nature-environment worshipping
>incompatible with family based living

>>133750548
>Libertarians don't mind degeneracy

False. I don't have to permit anything on my property nor do I have to live among degenerates who do. The apes will weed themselves out

That's kind of the point. When you call yourself a libertarian and you want to police social behavior, you're a lolbertarian, aka a kekistain.

>>133764167
Power belongs to whoever has it you fucking faggot.

>>133758425
where will thug culture come from if black women's single motherhood isn't subsidised by the government?

>>133773244

not really

In an Ancap society there could be private law, which is not possible nowadays.What we have now are rules that can't superseed the law code of the country.

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>>133772747
There's nothing wrong with racism. Nothing. I have the sovereign right to call you a nigger. HATE SPEECH IS FREE SPEECH, NIGGER.

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>>133773397

you can police social behavior in your property

>>133750548
Wasn't America built on civic nationalist, you know all the different white cultures coming over and mixing. Doesn't mean you should let the shit skins in though.

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>>133773031
Truth, i mock commies in the name of minarchy. It's literally the only reason i bother with these stinky fucks.

>>133773622
Kek, saved

>>133758763

Who is she?

>>133773427
>nazbol scum
>power belongs to my wife's son's father
yup, it's commies.

>>133750548
that's why the future is totalitarianism.

we must control every aspect of the life of our Aryan people.

>>133773564
I'm reporting you to the commissar for that , nigger.

>>133759698
No true Scotsman, the argument.

>>133765886
I guess you are from Transylvania. I have liked minarchism until I saw the cocalari and the way they behave, there should be no libertarianism and no NAP towards these vile subhumans regardless their race. Weed them out and then we can have our NAP.

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>>133773796
/r/dadjoke for the redditor...
https://youtu.be/vBfFDTPPlaM
Pic related for my real niggas.

>>133750548
They should. We had it before and now that there are so many niggers and women making bad choices for all of us, we will not.

>>133773603
No it was explicitly exclusive to white persons of good character. As late as the 1952 Immigration Act there are high profile congressmen that specifically advocate the retaining of white Anglo Saxon homogeneity. Even the 1965 Act was passed with the understanding that it wouldn't alter the demographic makeup of their immigration which was almost entirely European.

>>133773785
Nature called , says you're a faggot.

Don Draper also called , left a message saying that the Universe is indifferent.

When you eliminate welfare you eliminate coalburners and degenerates. Fascists just cause degeneracy to go underground.

>>133773787
Fuck yeah , make me your bitch daddy.

I do have a problem with this. I just disapprove of the state using violence to mandate this. If they are weak enough to fall for this degenerate bullshit, then they are not worth protecting.

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>>133767340
>>133767787
>>133768459
>>133769490
Switches to me, switches to commie, the strawman i intend to attack.
>>133770309 (typical dyke sarcasm)
>>133770841 (shock daddy dyke sarcasm)
>>133770974 (salty splashdamage dyke sarcasm)
>>133771583 (cant make a point, may as well make a joke dyke sarcasm)
>>133772747 (Movie quote dyke sarcasm)
>>133773427 (reinforcing kike narrative dyke attack (ooh, how fisty, i mean fiesty))
>>133773796 (daddy i wanna play too dyke sarcasm)
>>133774428 (x called wants y back dyke sarcasm)
>>133774662 (dyke finally receptive to deep ancap dicking)
Bitch are you masturbating on shareblue's dime? Post tits or boipucci, you degenerate slut.

>>133761323
We need a modern day version of this to deal with the NEET/millenial problem. Seriously. Not only would it make society better overall, but it would also greatly help those NEETs who can't manage to pull themselves out of their slothful ways.

>>133773242
>I have no idea why more people don't take such wonderful liberty...maybe you're a pussy?

You're not "taking liberty" though. You're complaining about a percieved lack of it on a timorese water puppet forum. Why not "take" some liberty if you're so brave? Surely it is clear that ancaps trying to start their utopia would immediately have to set up borders and military protection in order to compete with the strong nations we have on earth, those winners of the evolution of the collectives if you will, the omnipresent manifestation of the superiority of nation statism over atomization and tribalism. Much like communists, ancaps think only in terms of materialism, supposing that the state is some kind of "unnatural" tool designed exclusively physical (material) gain at the expense of the individual. As fascists we reject this simple prescription of reality and thus view the state as an inevitable eventuality, a community historically perpetuating itself, a multitude unified by a single idea, which is the will to existence and to power: consciousness of itself, personality.

>>133775099
You fuckers are mentally ill , Occam's razor you cum guzzling faggot. I'm bored and decided to start trolling.

>>133775414
>timorese water puppet forum
Ur bretty gud
The arguements ur posting tho, ouch...ur doing the brainlet thing and it's hurting me to correct you, but I love you anon so I'm going to try.
My earnest request for and if denied, eventual martial enforcement of pure anarcho-capitalism (ancap manifests irl as minarchy) is an argument, not a solution, but an argument. It is the basis from which we will find out what is important in government, and remove the rest. We're cutting everything down to the pure Western philosophical (a concept beyond the realm of materialism...this is how i know you're sub-130 brainlet, you didnt study this part) ideal, and then saying, what would you like to build?

If you're against that, you're trash, don't get in my way and i will not remove you.

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>>133775832
That's fine and all, but whats with all the sexual frustration in the subtext? WHY are you trolling? Psychoanalyze yourself for me bby.

>>133761875
> tfw I see others gets redpilled by nobodytm
God bless

I don't really know what my political ideology is, but I feel that it's best for me to just keep to myself and mind my own business. I'm extremely reclusive, so almost all of the stuff people get up to that /pol/ calls "degeneracy" doesn't affect me one way or the other.

>>133776563
I'm pretty much a serial killer.

>>133750548
You mean I don't mind fun.

>>133763237
i thought height and facial aesthetics were important

>>133778227
Don't have too much fun.

>>133763237
Now if I had my air pistol, took aim and fire at it...

Londoner here.

>>133778437
Dick size comes first when it comes to females.

>>133778083
Obviously or you wouldn't be sperging out here. WE are very strange people. WHY can't you lurk moar and learn to actually enjoy the game of /pol/?

>>133763398
There's a 90% chance that dude is gay, you retards.

>>133778657
I don't have fun.

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>>133750548
There's an enormous difference between having your daughter dating the nig in your photo or dating Thomas Sowell, wasn't that mentioned in Mein Kampf?

>>133759642
>Don't worry lolbertarians get the rope too
Good luck trying, I'll have a ar15 Aimed right under your autistic standhelm

>>133750548
What does hating degeneracy have to do with my political ideology? I hate degeneracy.

>>133779111
There is no difference you nigger loving faggot.

>>133779751
lurk the dark web some moar

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>>133779751
Commies unironically think you can regulate degeneracy at the political level.

YOU LOST WW2 STOP WHINING

>>133750743
>Reminder that ethno-nationalist don't care about free markets and entrepreneurship and are cool with poor white people on welfare.

Why do you not want to help the poorer members of your family?

By the way, ethno-nationlists might not mind them being on welfare ,but I can guarantee the guidelines and stipulations will be a hell of a lot stricter than now.

Aka , if you can work you still will and only the truly incapable will get a free ride.

>>133780194
You're clearly a nigger https://youtu.be/bYAYKcPdNkA

>>133750743
Show me the conservative politicians introducing bills that outlaw race mixing? I'll wait.

>>133759919
Where is he going to put them?

>>133750548
Why is he wearing his underwear at a beach? Fucking nogs never dress properly. Wear a bathing suit, do not wear underwear at a beach.

Stop acting like a fucking nigger anon.

>>133764349
I honestly think I used to work with this guy in London...

>>133750548
If there was a truly free market then niggers would mostly starve to death

>>133750548
These type of people only exist for a quick fuck, they have no other talents, personality traits, or anything interesting to offer.

Most of them will kill themselves before they have a career established.

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>>133750548
Freedom of association goes both ways you can simply not associate with coal burners and form your own insular ethno-nationalist community
within the bounds of an ancap society as long as you are willing to follow the NAP.

or are you afraid that you can't compete on a social market with big meaty thick black cocks?

>>133781186
Most of them can't survive without government assistance.

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>>133750548
>>133761599
This is direct reason i'm not Libertarian anymore.
I was like staunched libertarian/ancap since like 2008 but started to sway further to nationalism and further to fascism in 2013-15.
After i've seen how much shit and decadent our western society has become, i now care more about fixing it rather then making market more better and free.
I realised libertarians don't ever help fix society but rather exploit it further for profits.
They don't care about simple people who want to just get by, they only care about holy profit and "freedom".
The final redpill for me was that unregulated capitalism is biggest export of degenerate because it is very profitable for capitalism.

Libertarian is a dead meme, even more that communism is... It would have been absolutely great and effective like in 18th-19th century, but today it is just gonna be same liberalism just without federalism.

I unironically would rather side with communists because they actually care about their society and people(well when the famine and shortages isn't near...)

>>133781775
>and further to fascism in 2013-15.
Then you were never a libertarian to begin with.

>>133781775
Strongchin did nothing wrong.

>>133781846
Cont. Being a libertarian means being committed to protecting civil liberties at the cost of much else. It doesn't necessarily mean letting white societies be flooded with non-whites, that's a meme. There is nothing inherently non-libertarian about sensible immigration policies. However, being a fascist IS incompatible with being a libertarian because fascists see everything other than their own little vision of the world as a threat. "sexual promiscuity is bad... we can't allow free speech..." etc.

>>133750548
Neither one of these take into account human nature. They think, "If I leave them alone, surely they'll be decent enough to leave me alone as well!"

>>133751431
Fuck off David Serfaty, you whiny, deformed kike with a speech impediment.

>>133781775
>quote
/thread

>>133782317
you forgot
>And if they don't I'll shoot them

NAP>Human nature

>>133750548
Daily reminder that whites are at fault for everything thats happening to them. If we werent naive idiots nothing like this could happen. Idiots see this image and blame some imaginary Jew in the media companies instead of the stupid white whore thats doing all this and her limp wrist father.

>>133759382
>Most of the time markets will chew in productive citizens and spit out niggers (Kardashits), (((oligarchs))) or flat out idiots with a nice face.
>Mfw markets make you sexier

>>133750548
wrong
I do mind degeneracy

what I believe is the sanction to it should be a social sanction, not a penal one
ie people should shun and discriminate degenerates

the reason I believe so is that society is an idea, ie it doesn't exist, while individuals do exist
which means you can't hope to change individuals through "changing society as a whole"

you can't change ideas
ideas are absolute
even greek pederasts understood such a basic concept millenia ago

"changing society as a whole" is a socialist fucktardry, which cannot work, and indeed never works
you change individuals through interacting with them
and that's all there is to opposing degeneracy

>>133781775
Why can't retards understand the difference between means and ends?

>>133750743
When do you think automation is going to fuck everyone over? 20 years? Wrong. Sooner.

>>133781775
This loser is too weak to feed his family so he wants to fight for gibsmedat.
>The most common tovarish is the mediocre tovarish, iq between 95 and 115, they believe themselves to be smarter for understanding the complex wonders of marxian thought.

>>133783171
Philosophy and not coercion. Ostracize those that can't get along with us.

>>133750548
White women fetishizing the BBC is inherently racist and makes me laugh from time to time. Deep down they know the black man to be a purely physical object of absolutely no worth besides his BBC. Something to be used and discarded but when they need to they settle down with a white man. Even black women want white men. Everyone wants white men at the end of the day.

You can debate whether or not white men are cucks for taking up "damaged goods" so to speak, but it proves us all correct: White men are superior to black men on average. I think this BBC fetish is quite hilariously racist.

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>>133783171

Seriously though, what the fuck are you talking about? Your scenario is exactly what got us here in the first place.

Degenerates propagate, spread their cancer through media and education systems. All funded by (((you know who))). Simply sidelining them makes them bitter and motivated to strike out at those who ostracize them in the first place.

>>133785313
Enjoy your used goods, cuck. We'll enjoy them at their prime.

>>133768999
woah cheers anon

>Black people get ahead
>Masturbate to anime and cry on the internet

You should visit /fit/ sometime

>>133756644
Capitalism and free markets aren't bad things, but they always end up with an underclass that is struggling to survive. Even in a world full of ubermencsh, there's gonna be someone who has to clean toilets (no that's not a job meant for teenagers as their first job). I'm not against helping them out if they are good, hardworking fellow countrymen

>>133758020
You guys are so delusional. The free market isn't a panacea. There are problems with it as well. Nothing is perfect

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>>133750548
why are there so many mad whitebois on this site? lmao

>>133785375
no
what got us there is people fearing a backlash if they discriminate, giving free reign to the sjw buggers

and with reason
you can't even refuse to bake a fag cake, in murrica
not to even talk about laws in jewrope

the solution is to let, and encourage, people to speak their minds
nature is nature
most people dont believe in that degeneracy beyond hiveminding and virtue signaling
Trump's election shows that well enough

serve degenerates a taste of their own medicine
ostracize them, and encourage ostracizing them, without caring for what they have to answer
and errything will be done

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>>133750743
kys Tyrone

>>133786673
Nice fake hair lmao

>>133761875
Where is that clip from? Recognize it from a redpilled YT video.

>>133784845

>>133763530
what about actually paying to see the fucking game.

>>133758391
Wrong

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>>133761323
Why do that when you can bring millions of foreigners and give them wellfare and free healthcare paid by taxes of the working middle class, right?

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School of cultural marxism much?

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>>133757992

>You can't tell me who to love!

What you do will affect me. It might not be today, it might not be tomorrow, but it will effect. If not me, it will effect my descendants.

So yes I can and yes I will.

Just another picture of a single mother with a mud baby, nothing new here.

>>133757925
Hoppe libertarianism
Right libertarianism
National capitalism

>>133769134
Left: talking about capitalism with communists
Right: talking about capitalism with capitalists

ftfy x2

>>133750548
daily reminder that anarcho capitalists on /pol/ have the flag just because it looks "cool"

>>133771581
Damn, took me a while to see it. Your jew radar is on point.

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>>133750548
Traitors and fake allies are first to go
>Make pic related happen, find something wrong, pro-tip, you can't

>>133758648

Not everyone on welfare is there because they have to be. There was one guy with a face tattoo who posted it on FB and someone asked 'why would you do that, how will you find a job?"

>welfare bro
he was even white

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eh half black half dumb better than full on chimps running shit am I right

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>>133750548
Save, share and educate normies on this cancer

>>133785708
Whites are one of the most altruistic races, there is no need for a welfare state in a white ethno-state. A welfare state implies that the citizens cannot be trusted to care for each other and must be forced to do so by the state. Welfare is inherently degenerate because it depersonalizes charity into a massive behemoth known as the state. The state may decide to distribute this compulsory charity in whatever way it deems fit, however, those who receive it only see the state as the source of their welfare and not their fellow citizen. This results in them taking these handouts for granted as there is no personal touch and sacrifice that they themselves see. Mere beaucracy and legal regulations cannot replace the social conditions that can be imposed in private charity.

A person is more apt to steal from the state as it distributes it's victimization amongst all the taxpayers, but are they apt to steal from their neighbores who pitched into help them in their time of need? Are they apt to waste this money if they have it given them by some government bureaucrat or if their local churchgroup raised it for them?

State welfare is based on a punitive system, where if you don't follow x-y-z you don't get anymore handouts. Private charity is based on a reward system where you want to improve yourself to make sure the people who gave up their own wealth can feel good about their decision to help you.

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Daily reminder that socialism is a meme that leads to poverty and death

>>133786039

I agree with you, but the community needs a healthy dose of physically removal of degenerates from time to time.

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>>133789775
if you're not a criminal, what you own, you spent part of your life earning it
it thus is equivalent to said part of your life

you should then be allowed to defend it by any mean necessary
now wait for them to chimp out, like in Hamburg
and pic related

here is an occasion when the physical removal is justified, useful and should be encouraged

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>>133750743
National Socialism had a free market for consumer goods but the German Labour Front (a NSDAP organization) lobbied heavily for their workers and the state would intervene to arbitrate any disputes that couldn't be solved internally. They nationalized all banking and virtually all insurance. They had a currency pegged to a basket of goods so the German worker would never lose his purchasing power ever again.

The NSDAP taxed the 'worker' (farmer -> lawyer) far less than the most lolbert county, in the most lolbert state, in the most lolbert country. They required industry to match production to consumption and forbade social dumping (partly forced due to mass international Jewish boycotts) and this and the guaranteed sustenance government work turned out to be the solution to unemployment. The NSDAP solved unemployment for the first and only time in history.

A shoemaker in 1936 Germany got more vacation time (and free vacations at state owned KDF oceanliners/vacation camps than I get in 2017 as a boilermaker in one of the richest countries in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program#The_25-point_Program_of_the_NSDAP

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>>133790521
>mass international Jewish boycotts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19

>>133769289
>property rights are ill defined
Nigger do you even Descartes, or Hoppe?

>>133789686
Furthermore, a welfare state will always end up giving welfare to those who don't deserve it. This decision then would impact the views of all the citizens over it's capabilities. When a citizen squanders money they've received from a charity, it is the fault of the charity, not the entire state. There is no call for regulations, or laws, but simply a greater diligence by other citizens.

This generalization will lead to false extrapolations, as people will assume the worst excesses of government welfare are representative of the whole system. This will lead them to questioning all of those who receive it. There will be a demand for more regulations, stipulations and punitive measures for abuse, but it will simply become more and more bureaucratic and less and less personal.

When a person willfully grants charity to another, they both have the desire of improvement. There is that social bond that reinforces the desire for improvement in the person who receives that charity. When the state acts as an intermediary it kills the social connection that is created when one person gives charity to another. It depersonalizes it all into simply a bunch of paperwork.

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>>133786039
There is nothing natural about capitalism or even individualism for that matter. Lolbert only exists in America because it was tailor made for America. The whole plan from the beginning was to subvert the right with this fake version of Jewish conservatism masquerading as traditionalism.

Now thanks to short sighted lolberts your future is Jewish communism. Bernie Sanders is but a tiny taste of your future. "Demographics is destiny" as the Rabbis constantly say.

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>>133786039
>>133790984
Before the welfare state the church provided community services. They required everyone work to sustain this welfare and education system. Taxes were minimal because everyone contributed.

National Socialism was early Roman secular Christianity on a national level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_LHwKxcOIM
Is It Pagan? By Joseph Goebbels

>>133769289
>property rights, which are an ill defined and vague construct
nope
self and material ownership are natural rights
if you don't inherently understand those, that means you're not Human
then see:
>>133790283

>>133759019
Those blacks look like good upstanding members of society desu

>>133790984
>There is nothing natural about capitalism or even individualism for that matter
for Humans, there actually is nothing more natural than that
you're yet another illustration that socialism is for insects, not Humans

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>>133791290
Do you really own anything when 30% of your youth are racial strangers? When in a few decades they will pilfer everything you have? When the Jewish central banks can rob you of your entire retirement?

Sure the NSDAP didn't have true private property (the state had the right to expropriate any land they wanted for compensation only the state chose) but they had a currency pegged to a basket of goods so the German worker would never lose his purchasing power ever again. They smited the kikes and their cancerous influence.

>>133790984
>The whole plan from the beginning was to subvert the right with this fake version of Jewish conservatism masquerading as traditionalism.

National Socialism is not traditionalism, no matter how many times you repeat this lie. A welfare state can never be traditionalist.

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>>133791496
The greatest threat to the European races is not a strong government but rather the very opposite. You believe you will be wealthier under lolbert. I know for a fact you would be wealthier under National Socialism. That's not even the half of it.