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What revisionist history have you guys been taught in schools.

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I have asked this before but the responses are usually jaw dropping.
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>>133706623
straight up the biggest lie actually printed in american textbooks is how Lincoln was against slavery, he was elected as president and this made the south attack the united states so they could keep their slaves. Therefore the civil war, and in the civil war the good guys (the government and Lincoln) won despite the dirty tactics of the south.

literally that's how it's told.
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>>133706983
I don't think "state rights" came up once in my American History class.
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>>133706983
Ha I know its stupid Lincoln need to be convinced by other republicans to be against slavery. And hell the civil war wasn't even about racism it was about the economic gain of the south.
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>come to bitch about the Civil War
>non-Confederate flags have already done so

Well, fuck.
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>>133707505
Oh its fine you can join in to!
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>>133707587
too* FACK
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That a black man invented peanut butter.
Or anything else for that matter.
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>>133706623
dixie boy,here,Louisiana.We learned about state history and napoleon because of the la purchase.they said the hatitis rising up and killing the whites was good.We learned how seperate but equal was bad.Stalin good and Hitler bad.
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>>133706623
Not revisionist but during history class, we only learned about OUR part of ww2

I seriously grew up thinking ww2 was only about us and america VS the japanese, Never touched any of the Hitler stuff
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>>133706623
>McCarthy did something wrong
Motherfucker should have been hanging these commies.
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>>133706623
The idea that African slaves were captured and rounded-up by Europeans instead of being bought from Arabs, other tribes, or kingdoms.
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>>133707777
Did you even know of Hitler?
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>>133707835
On the reals.
I was taught McCarthy was a bad guy.
That guy is unironically my hero.
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>>133706623
That the potato famine was engineered by the Brits and that all Ireland's woes are the fault of Britain. Also that De Valera was a hero and not a complete cunt. That there were no Irish Catholic Unionists and no Irishmen volunteered to fight for Britain in WW2.

t. Irishman working in England
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>>133707777
check'd
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What's an eastern front?
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I am not sure about history revisionism, but there is one I remember the most. It was about the ozone layer and how we are all fucked because the ozone layer will disappear in 10-30 years.
That bullshit has completely gone from the public consciousness and has been replaced with (((global warming)))
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>>133706623
YO JOE!
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>>133706623
Blacks were the real Jews
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>>133708731
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>17% of the rainforest is destroyed each day

It was some absurdly high number like that.

We had to watch "Channel 1" every morning, a globalist-news-4-kids-featuring-tons-of-corporate-advertising. This was in the mid 90s.

aw shit I found some

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abEZwhQiUyM
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The Shoah.
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>>133708680
Haha, shit, I remember the Ozone layer. It's actually moved on from global warming to the next version: "climate change".

I think the evolution is - global cooling > ozone layer > global warming > climate change. There are probably more steps.
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>>133708680
that's because the ban on the propellants in the aerosols that were causing the damage was effective.

you can find plenty of documentation on the recovery of the ozone.

Don't think for a second that mankind-influenced climate change isn't real. You really think humankind doesn't have the ability to influence world wide climate? We've been redecorating the surface of the earth since the beginning.

The climate change just isn't going to fit the doomsday scenario the left are pushing for political gain. all that 'muh sea levels' crap is the turning of real facts into propaganda to fit some agenda
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I was taught that rome was a multicultural society and that diversity is what made it powerful.
This was in college, before the cultural appropriation idea became a thing. So they might have changed their tune. They probably just argue that Greeks were black now and that Romans appropriated black culture.
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The entirety of what was taught about the civil war was just Lost Cause of the South bullshit that most of the other faggots in my school ate up. Alaska is the South on steroids.

Praise Sherman
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>>133709037
The ozone layer was because of hairspray if I remember correctly. The passed a law because of it if I remember correctly.
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>>133706623
WEEEE WUZZZ ALEXANDER AN
SHIEEEEEEEEEEET
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>>133709171
>>133709085
CFCs motherfucka.

>>133709127
Did this in university too. The Barbarian Migrations were just a big multicultural party, the Western Empire didn't really "fall" you bigot.

This was at the University of Cambridge. Obviously we read dissenting voices like Peter Heather and Bryan Ward-Perkins too but that was the faculty's party line.
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>>133709085
Settle down now. Nobody's denying we have an impact on the planet. We're highlighting the media hype.
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>>133709162

FUN FACT: Sherman had an 0 and 6 record against the Confederate army. Undefeated against women and children though.
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>>133709162
>Praise Sherman
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>>133708531
THIS
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>>133707102
>mah states rights
Fuck off, the civil war was about slavery, all states sense the 1820 compromise were admitted as pairs, one free and one slave state to keep the balance in congress because they thought otherwise the union would split. (Which was proven right). This went on till the compromise of 1850 when California was admitted as a free state alone, but with a harser anti-run away slave bill and plans for Kansas as a slave state, but then a bunch a freestaters ran over to Kansas to sabotage it's entry as a slave state, that plus tensions from the run away slave enforcement and weaking of enforcement and the law directly related to the fact slave and free states no longer having equal power in congress broke down the compromise and lead directly to succession of the south.
Anyone who says fights about slavery didn't cause the civil war is brainwashed.
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>>133706623
Not much that I can remember unless you mean muh holocaust. I was in the advanced classes so we avoided spending ten million years each and every year studying jews.
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>>133706623
Bad shit about Lincoln, good shit about blacks (the peanut butter thing was bullshit). Israel is necessary, all the problems in the world are white people's fault. You can do anything if you put your mind to it. Niggers are our equals. The list goes on and on. Funny how after all their brainwashing I'm still here.
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>>133709372
>revolt because your jewish masters tell you to do so
>fight and die in the hundreds of thousands for the right of jews to own slaves
>150 years later whine that Sherman kicked your shit in
>still suck Israel's dick and advocate for war in the Middle East for Israel's sake

Maybe try sucking less jew dick
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>>133709437
Wht do people treat this like it's so complicated? It was about both states rights and slaves because it was about a states right to own slaves.
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>>133709437
slavery was no longer profitable and the number of slaves was greatly diminished for the aforementioned reason. you are embarrassing your country with your ignorance.
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>>133709493
Peanut butter just kind of happened. GW Carver did a lot of amazing work in the field of agriculture and particularly with peanuts. I don't know why they gloss over him with peanut butter when what he actually did revolutionized farming.
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>>133708913
That "evil kitsch American culture is taking over France!" segment is hilarious in modern Islamic context.

and lol Anderson Cooper was on this show. I always knew that shit was evil.
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Hitler was a painter and decorator, told to us by History teacher no joke.
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>>133709437
>Doesn't mention that during the civil war the union had slave states
Remember kids: It was the radical republicans who cared about slavery, Lincoln just cared about getting shit done. Don't be a wordy idiot like this tard.
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>>133706623
The full on WW2 and WW1 meme, and basically nothing else.

It can be summarized as: The holocaust was bad and it is our fault, WW1 was bad and it is not so much our fault. Also a bit about the unification of Germany after the Franco-Prussian war.

Things missing:
HRE
Napoleon
anything at all about the medieval times
anything about rome at all
what did actually happen in WW1 aside from people felling bad about sitting in trenches
what did actually happen in WW2 besides the holocaust
what is communism
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>>133706623
Read The Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government by Jefferson Davis
Everything you were taught is a lie. Lincoln the homosexual was a tyrant and pen pal of Karl Marx.
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>>133709839
You'd really only learn about Communism if you took a government class. We never learned about capitalism, socialism, or nazism either.
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>>133706623
*In parenthesis*

>the Jews were not responsible for the slave trade, as many people are starting to believe

It was randomly inserted into a page that never even mentioned the jews.
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>>133709940
It should have deserved a mention, especially when talking about WW2.
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>>133707835
>>133708282
McCarthyism is still a valid fallacy though even if he ended up being right about all those people being communists.

You can't just accuse people of collusion without evidence.
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>>133709572
>It was about states right, if the state right in question was to own slaves
Yes.
>>133709595
Wether or not it was profitable is not realvent here. The settling of territory gained from the Mexican American war into states threatened slave states power to stop any abolishlisn laws. The compermise of 1850 delayed the war for 10 years, of course it broke up with the kanas-Nebraska act of 1954 (which ended the compromise of 1820: always adding one slavestate and free state at the same time) which led directly to the formation of the Republican Party, whose capture of the national government in 1860 led directly to the secession crisis of 1860–1861.
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>>133709437

Wars don't usually start over one simple thing, and the Civil Wars was definitely no exception. While there were abolitionists in the North who were more than up to fight to free slaves, Lincoln's motivation was to stop the South from leaving the Federation, and really didn't care about slavery all that much. Southern states were getting pissed off about their diminishing political power for many years prior to this, which led to bad things for them - like being financially exploited to build manufacturing in the North.
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I don't know if it's necessarily "revisionist" but the heavy emphasis on slavery:

based on my public school education from grades 1-5, so until around age 11, the only history you're learning is about slavery and Underground Railroads. It's like more important to the curriculum than the Founding Fathers, which they barely teach you about.
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>>133710037

He had tons of evidence on these people.
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>>133706623
That FDR fixed the Great Depression through his New Deal.

And on a less important note, that knights in the middle ages wore armor so heavy they needed to be winched into their saddles.
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>>133706623
>civil war was over slavery and the racist white ebil south started it
>nazis persecuted the kikes for absolutely no reason and jews and have never been backstabbing nation wreckers
>communism is alright and hasnt killed 5x what the nazis did at all, literally no mention of communist crimes while shoving slavery and the nazis down our throats and how we should be ashamed of being white

Everything I mentioned was in our history textbooks.
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>>133706623
2nd balkan war - the damned serbs and greeks backstabbed us - in fact it was an international cock-up which leaked all the way to us.
ottoman rule - the janissary system was a bit exaggerated and it is portrayed as the turks taking the first born of every family as a blood tax and mothers weeping for their children and so on - in fact it was an elite thing and only 2nd children were taken in and the law had to be changed to allow muslims to be taken into the janissary corps, as the position was so lucrative and elite that the turks wanted their own children in it.
4th crusade was stopped by kaloyan - yes its true, though it wasnt the 4th crusade in its entirety - it was quite fractured at this point
cyril and methodius were OBVIOUSLY bulgarian and it was only because of bulgaria that we got the cyrilic alphabet - well no, it was developed in bulgaria, but the work of cyril and methodius began in great moravia, who asked the eastern roman emperor first for an alphabet of its own, then things got fucked there and they chose the german catholicism, so cyril and methodius continued their work in bulgaria, as it was the most close language at the time and only there they could salvage their work, and simultaneously our king boris asked for an alphabet of our own
simeon was just about to take constantinople and he got assassinated by the greeks! - yeah, no. the siege engines he had were such a laughing stock, they intentionally didnt use them not to demoralize the army. the siege was a bluff at best, and a total disaster at worst.
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>>133710037
>can't just accuse people of collusion without evidence.
Allow my fellow leaf enlighten you about "McCarthyism". It's long as shit, and best listened to on a commute or something, unless you have nothing better to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wljpYZ8wejA
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>>133709437

>civil war was about slavery
wow glad to see we can admit that countless whites died solely to stop slavery =]
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that catholic schools were pure evil even though they taught natives how to live in a civilized society. i guess a couple nutjob teachers beating kids (which was not exclusive to native schools) means every white canadian is guilty of indefinite racism
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>>133709437
>>133710329

also more than the slaves' people ever did for them btw
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We were taught the Holocaust never happened
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Had one dumbass nigger teacher in the 4th grade teach us that Africa was a country, and pointed to some fucking poster with the continent of Africa and some blacks wearing Egyptian headdresses.
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>>133709836
>What is the Peoria speech
>lincions anti slavery speech of 1854
How does it feel to be blow the fuck out so hard?
To pretend Lincoln wasn't anti slavery is pure revisionism
If at times he didn't act in that direction as fast as some would have liked it's because he was working within a republican system of government that required compermise and he had bigger problems to fry
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>the Trail of Tears was bad
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>>133710334
>pure evil even though they taught natives how to live in a civilized society
Frankly, I too wish residential schools never existed. That way natives would have been completely unable to integrate, and would probably still all be on their reserves speaking gibberish and being mystified by metalworking and the wheel, instead of committing crimes in our cities and lobbying for infinite gibs.
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Something something Nanjin blah blah comfort women yadda yadda Unit 731 etc Pearl Harbor and so on. My senpei called history sensei a lying baka zainichi commie and got yelled at by the coach for an hour.
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>>133710762
youre a korean, arent you?
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>>133707835
Same, McCarthyism was taught in my class with a slant. Basically that McCarthy had no proof whatsoever to support his claims about communism making intrusions into American society. I did some research regarding campuses that were noticeably opposed to McCarthyism, and ironically, they now have openly-communist students, and apologetic communist professors (Evergreen is a great example, their alternative motto which was originally meant as an insult is "Atheism. Communism. Free Love.") Evergreen also has student groups related to socialist groups within the USA.

A lot of other campuses that protested against anti-communist laws are also overly-liberal in the present (i.e. Harvard).
The professor's rhetoric was also annoying, he would always refer to most "witch-hunts" as crusades, along with using the same old arguments regarding present things, that McCarthy was basically using communism as a scapegoat (he never elaborated).
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>>133707505
Wot in tarnation
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>>133710894
Fuck you say pig?
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>>133710946
youre a korean
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>>133710094
Succession caused the civil war, succession was about slavery. To say old abe started the civil war to keep the union together while leaving out why the union spilt is putting the ol Ox before the cart, and stupid word games.
incoln often expressed moral opposition to slavery in public and private. Initially, he expected to bring about the eventual extinction of slavery by stopping its further expansion into any U.S. territory, and by proposing compensated emancipation (an offer Congress applied to Washington, D.C.) in his early presidency. Lincoln stood by the Republican Party's platform of 1860, which stated that slavery should not be allowed to expand into any more territories. He believed that the extension of slavery in new western lands would block "free labor on free soil", and he also wanted a peaceful, enduring end to slavery. As early as the 1850s, Lincoln was politically attacked as an abolitionist, but he did not consider himself one. Howard Jones says that " in the prewar period, as well as into the first months of the American Civil War itself....Lincoln believed it prudent to administer a slow death to slavery through gradual emancipation and voluntary colonization rather than to follow the abolitionist and demanding an immediate end to slavery without compensation to owners.
Pic unrelated
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>>133710962
Fuck you. I don't even know your flag.
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>>133706623
>New York was built by slaves

No blacks lived in the region until the British took over the city from the Dutch. All the blacks that keep whining about how they built New York is a big fat lie since there weren't even blacks around at the time.

This appears in French guide books for New York
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as many holocaust days as they could fit into the year. usually 4+ every year for one reason or another. even as a kid it was annoying.
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>>133711021
well thats the proof youre not really japanese
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>>133707777
>id is iumwomht
>number is 7777
Luck incarnate
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>>133710334
We were taught about "cultural relativism," which is simply the idea that every culture is unique in their own way according to its people, and is thus not inferior or superior to other cultures. The professor applied this to the natives, and said that natives were whitewashed and forced into assimilating into American culture (he put an emphasis on "America having no culture")
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>>133710992
Secession...
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>>133711108
You some shit hole in eastern Europe?
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>>133711139
well he was sort of right. american culture is european culture. or at least it was back in the day. now there is a divide
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>>133706623
Lincoln being liked by northerners
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>>133711218
at least we are working on a friendship with our separated by commies state, kim. things are looking good for the future. how about you?
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>>133710992

Lincoln: " My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union."

Secession is not a declaration of war. If someone leaves your party early, you don't have the right to knock them unconscious and bring them back inside and tie them up.
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>>133711226
Yeah, Europeans became giant faggots who banned guns, forced to have immigrants come into their country, and pay a shitload of taxes.

You guys became faggots, while America went on to kick ass and take names.
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>>133711110
1 fucking number off being >>133711111
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>>133711288
i thought you niggers were on suicide watch or something
because boyko's a shit pm or something don't remember
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>>133709306
How recently was this? I was starting to hope that academics were coming around to the views of the guys you mentioned.
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>>133709567
If it takes place in Israel, war in the Middle East is good. Bomb sand people, just not the ones we bomb now.
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>>133711350
dont watch the news desu. but i am happy for working together with macedonia. ive sort of approved of boyko - i mean hes better than the communists, and the democrats dont have enough votes, and the nationalists are a joke
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>>133711288
Fuck you I'm not Korean. You are a gypsy. Go steal and live in a painted wagon and fear vampires you stub nosed bowlegged peasant shit.
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One of my favorite jokes in the Simpson's is when a government official is interviewing Apu about being able to become a legal migrant and he asks about the reason for the civil war, Apu launches in to this detailed explanation and the official cuts him off with "Just say slavery". Kinda sad the more intricate version of events is now pretty much wiped out by modern schooling.
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>>133711226
American culture was more existent back then than now. Yes it was derived from European influences, but the Americana culture developed later on. Now days, states have their own cultures that are vastly different from one another such as Texas, New York, California, etc. Nevertheless, the US had and does cotinue to have culture.
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>>133711315
yeah, the EU fucked up a lot of things. though paying a lot of taxes can work. i mean as it is its too much, but taxes shouldnt be too low either
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>>133709437
The north had slaves you fucking idiot
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>>133711489
im talking about 1600-1800
it was colonial european culture
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>>133711139
>North American Indians were a literal stone-age culture
>colonial Europeans reached the bronze age over 4000 years prior to contact
>neither is inferior or superior
At least tell me you didn't have to pay for this kind of (((education))).
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When I was in 8th grade we had a history teacher, Mr. Burns, who taught us black men were faster at tack and field because they had an extra bone in their foot. He even made diagram on the chalkboard.
I'm 54 now. Poor Mr Burns would be fired today for that shit!
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I remember having to watch Supersize Me and writing an essay on obesity

Also remember getting a low grade because I argued, with sources, that over consumption on ANY processed food would give the same results, and the experiment was flawed
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>>133706623
That hitler was the bad guy and that i should feel bad for being a german.
I wish i could just shoot every female teacher i had in the past and get away with it.
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>>133706623
Christopher Columbus discovered America
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>>133711565
I know, I was addressing both the past and the present, European influences in America would still be considered as having culture. The professor meant that the U.S. never had any culture in the context of the conversation (as in it never has nor will it ever exist).
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>>133711435
dont be edgy, i like koreans too
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>>133711292
political maneuvering In the moment speechs don't negate a lifetime of documented words anti-slave
>Secession is not a declaration of war.
Stupid word games. Succession was about slavery, civil war came from succession.
People are right when they say "it wasn't faught to free slaves" but to say it wasn't started over slavery is wrong. And to not understand the difference between those two is to be simple. I know there has been 140 years of propaganda about this so some people feel really strongly, but it's all written post 1865, no one in 1860 would disagree
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>>133711426
>better than commies
literally every eastern country ever
It does feel like shit that our commies are making our relations better
They even stopped with the we wuzzing propaganda
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The Holocaust

I believe it happened, but there is some blatant shit that isn't taught in schools at all, and there is blatant shit that is taught as fact.

For instance the 11 million holocaust victims figure is an admitted lie and is still taught to this day.

http://archive.is/gGnmb

Was never taught about shit below either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArNyyHXe3b8

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/controversies/Reward.html

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Himmler/Schlegelberger/DocItself0342.html

The whole "Nazis were super fucking racist and only liked blue eyed blonde haired people" bullshit also was shoved down my throat.
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>>133706623
I'm not allowed to say desu
It's so truthful that denying it in specific terms is illegal. Long live the protection of the truth.
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>>133711722
well in the sense of it being distinct enough in the past not to be considered european - i think thats wrong. it was european, then from the independence from the british, it shifted a bit from british american to european american, as the US didnt want to be linked with the country it got its independence from, then the relations warmed back, but at this point it was distinct and there was an american and a european culture.
obviously your prof is wrong, as there cant be "no culture". culture is the way you do things and your way of life. only uninhabited land has no culture.
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>>133711698
>I wish i could just shoot every female teacher i had in the past and get away with it.

this 100x over
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>>133711613
I didn't, it was a community college, as I'm trying the more economical path (Financial aid can provide you with a minimum of two non-paid years of schooling), and I'm transferring to a university next semester to study BA.The professor came from a New England state (to Texas) and said he works for both an engineering company, and as a professor.
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>>133711543
You are retarded if you don't realize abolitionists gaining enough federal power to threaten slavery lead to succession wither or not all slave states left the union. You are the ones simplfling
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>>133711865
hahahahah so your government now is the commie one? funny, id expect the commies to be muh yugoslavia
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>>133706623
Meh bro keeps going on about this. Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong
https://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Teacher-Told-Everything/dp/0743296281
SPOILER 100% of what we are told is wrong or a lie. Including what is not listed in the book.
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>>133711512
Sure they should, so should the number of government programs and who gets help from them. Every able-bodied person should work or die. That's why your country is a loser country and mine is a winner. Nothing from Bulgaria is notable. You guys need to learn how to win like Americans, then maybe you might not be a shithole with ugly ass women.
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>>133711944
more eu shills than commies
They're probably gonna change our name to something more retarded so they can become good little eu goys
At least they're fixing relations with neighboring countries
But they're also colluding with alboscum
so mixed feelings
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>>133712043
easy there, mate, you might get so angry you could fall off of your mobility scooter, and then youd be promoting more government in the form of more support for the firefighters who will have to get you out of your living room with a crane to put you in a diabetes specilized hospital for the broken pelvis you had.
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We were told that most nazis had Jewish soap and Jewish lampshades in their houses.

We learned about the slavery too of course. But nothing about how it was Britain which ended the international slave trade.
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>>133711763
All I see is he's posted evidence, you've said trust me.

Its not wordplay. The war was started when the 1820 accord was broken. It was to make sure they didn't become a minority in their own country, and guess what, the democrats backstabbed them and basically broke a treaty specifically to override a states ability to decide its own laws.
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>>133712194
why does it matter it is well known the cavil war was to free slaves and they still hate us all. fuck em.
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>>133709037
You forgot acid rain.
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>>133712158
You're thinking of our welfare recipients. In America, most fat people are the poor people. I am in shape and have never touched a single government benefit in my life. Now let's remember whose country's invention we're chatting on here and the language. It sure as hell isn't your retarded language that no one speaks outside your dumb country.
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>>133709037
The confused "sciences" of the left. Climate micro-segmentation to go with sexuality micro-segmentation. There will be more vivisections coming, including the political slicing of the right.
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>>133712410
at least its our language
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>>133706623
I was taught that its thanks to socialism and class struggle that we can enjoy our high standard of living. After the fall of the Soviet Union they say we are wealthy because Sweden traded with Germany during WW2 and our wealth is shameful and not deserved. In reality it's thanks to increased production from technological developments.

They say humanism and liberalism grew in opposition to Christianity when in fact the first liberals and humanists were priests teaching from the Bible. The printing press made the Bible public property so that the govermnents could no longer lie about what Jesus said.
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>>133711943
They seceded because they were butthurt they were getting taxed n shiet. Also the war literally started when lincoln baited federal troops on muh federal property in a seceded state. Everything else is secondary. Except for south carolina, they were also butthurt about slaves
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>>133707835
The only thing he did wrong was focusing on Hollywood instead of academia.
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the schools were right about hitler being bad for the world

he lost the war and now look where we are
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>>133708680
Most of you are not old enuff to remember, but there were gorillian sized herds of buffaloes and elephants that roamed the earth. That's when everyone burned wood or coal to do anything to cook or create heat.
And they are now worried about cow gas in California?
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>>133712206
I posted evidence in many posts, search for my post ID if you are too dumb to follow the conversation.
>The war was started when the 1820 accord was broken
Again, stupid word games, the 1820 compromise was a compromise between slavery and free states. So once again to pretend it was about anything besides slavery is being willfully obtuse. You can call it whatever you want, "minority in thier own country"' whatever you want, but it was still all about a disagreement about slavery, everything else, incudling mah culture is a abstraction from the laws they didn't like and the laws they didn't like were about slavery
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I was taught that 6000000 Jews died
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>>133706623
Does Revisionist history really mean, historical natratives I disagree with? That is what this thread suggests.
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>>133706983
Any scholar of US history knows that by any modern standards, all major parties in 1860~ would still be considered wildly racist. However what you've said there is a bit misleading. Facts about the civil war:
>Lincoln, as as his cabinets and other Republican candidates at the time, like Seward, Bates, and Chase, we're all against Slavery as an institution. All believed slavery should not be allowed to continue into the West and all believed it should be eradicated from the South. Different members believed in different rates (eradicated immediately, vs eradicated over ~10 years, etc etc)

>Not all northern figures, especially generals joined the war for that reason. Some simply hated the aristocratic culture of the South. The north had a culture that allowed successful business to gain cultural esteem. The South still subscribed to older European notions of status through heritage.

>The vast majority of Southern generals, namely Lee, Longstreet and Jackson all admitted that the war was foolish and wished it didn't happen. Though they could not fight against their own states. They admitted that Slavery was not morally, socially, or economically infeasible, but that an immediate dismantling of the institution would lead to economic ruin in the south.

>The vast majority of federal and Confederate figures admitted in letters that Slavery was the first, most prominent, and probably sole cause of the rift that lead to war.
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>>133712669
Don't worry anon, when cuck level is maximum, the conservative whites will leave and build a new home somewhere.

The old countries will collapse, their electric grids dead, and then the nuclear powerplants will start to go.

We just have to make sure we genocide any subhuman survivers next time we come out of the shelters, another shade lighter.
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>>133706623

>Dutch people ran the slave trade, but slavery was abolished by the Dutch in the 14th century
>it was actually the Jews using blacks as a bioweapon to prevent the spread of Europeans

>most of world war 2 history, no mention of Stalin faking the holocaust, loads of traumatizing pictures and horror stories told to me as a child by my school.

>christianity is bad, islam is good. Crusaders were horrible incursions into islamic land.

This bullshit was already ongoing in the 90's.
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>>133712724
It's undeniable that humanity produces far more CO2 and other greenhouse gases now thanks to industrialization. The point of contention is whether that has any significant effect on climate change, whether that effect has an upper bound, and whether anything can even be done about it without cucking the 1st world. The science does not appear to be particularly consistent on these fronts, despite the so-called "consensus".
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>>133708766
>>133708731

This is actually true though, and I think we should help the blacks repatriate

https://youtu.be/-gf6UAIVeJQ
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>>133710212

who dis garrison fella. cool cool
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>>133712477
Yeah, and it's our flag up there on the moon, faggot. Your language is so irrelevant on the global stage it's hilarious. Hell, Bulgaria really has nothing worth noting in recent history.
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>>133712898
Finally someone else that reads books.
>racist
Well yeah
I mean I am racist as hell but I'm still against slavery. Glad you pointed that out, a lot of people get confused and think that just because they were racist means they were also pro slavery
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>>133712788
You didn't post any evidence, all you did is say Lincoln was anti slavery, that Slavers were calling him an abolistionist etc. Not a single quotefrom HIM, or pointing of a excerpt from a historical account.

But it wasn't a disagreement. It also wasn't just a "compromise" it was a legally binding treaty. And guess who broke it? And guess what happens when you break a legally binding contract?
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That McCarthy was wrong.
Kremlin records later showed they really were soviet spies in Hollywood, in the State Department, and in the CIA.
Most all of them being kikes by the way.
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>>133710074
If only...
The Ostend Manifesto, a.k.a. Ostend Circular, was a document written in 1854 that described the rationale for the United States to purchase Cuba from Spain while implying that the U.S. should declare war if Spain refused. Cuba's annexation had long been a goal of U.S. slaveholding expansionists, and was supported by a faction in Cuba itself.
Spend some 10 more Infamy points for a Place In the Sun Spanish territory - Philippines perhaps
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostend_Manifesto
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>>133712957

It's actually extremely consistent, just not with NASA's fake models which they use to extort more tax money

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EHFfOOF-6Fs

>450 parts per billion
>bad

>CO2 used to be 20000 parts per billion when the California sequoias grew so large
>it was actually colder then it is now

HMMMMMMM, it's like a gas that is both plant food and 0.005% of the atmosphere isn't really dangerous. Every CO2 molecule needs to be around 2500 degrees celcius for global warming to work.
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>>133712923
Yep. And that's why I voted for Trump and Republicans. I've been told for so long how I'm the evil guy just for existing. It's time to show them what true evil is. It's time for the camps.
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>>133709162
Reminder that Sherman did nothing wrong. The south brought war and then started crying 'it's not fair we dindu do nuffin'" the moment a General decided to show them what war actually meant.

Sherman is an American hero.

https://pando.com/2014/11/20/the-war-nerd-why-sherman-was-right-to-burn-atlanta/
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>>133709826
Hitler actually was a vegetarian painter (art painting that is)
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>>133710037
Yup the heads of the armed forces and the vice prez were commies, just like Trump is putins puppet
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>>133713341
“If [the Confederates] want eternal war, well and good; we accept the issue, and will dispossess them and put our friends in their place. I know thousands and millions of good people who at simple notice would come to North Alabama and accept the elegant houses and plantations there. If the people of Huntsville think different, let them persist in war three years longer, and then they will not be consulted. Three years ago by a little reflection and patience they could have had a hundred years of peace and prosperity, but they preferred war; very well. Last year they could have saved their slaves, but now it is too late. All the powers of earth cannot restore to them their slaves, any more than their dead grandfathers. Next year their lands will be taken, for in war we can take them, and rightfully, too, and in another year they may beg in vain for their lives. A people who will persevere in war beyond a certain limit ought to know the consequences. Many, many peoples with less pertinacity have been wiped out of national existence.”

Letter to R.M. Sawyer by Sherman (January 1864)
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>>133706623
That jihad can only refer to an internal spiritual battle.
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>>133711713
He did. If you discover something and don't document it, you won't get the credit for it. And since no Injun sent documentation to Eurpoe of ((their findings)), they have no real claim to discovery title. Injuns weren't so smart. Could not mass produce guns and cannons and so lost any ownership of said findings. Plus being susceptible to unknown white devil diseases wiped almost all of the out.
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>>133710135
How did we pull out f the Great Depression?
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>>133713715
Well, some forms of it are internal.
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>>133713341
>burns white people so niggers can be free to rape white women
>american """"heroes""""
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>>133706623
Almost every. single. fucking. subject. revolved around Global Warming.

Geography? Of course
Chemistry? Apparently relevant to CO2 emissions
Physics? Producing energy involves releasing CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels
Biology? Carbon cycle and how organisms are affected
Even one of my fucking English exams were based on global warming
The UK education system is a joke.
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>>133708766
>BLACKS YOUR PAST
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>>133711872
Wtf when I was in school it was 6 million, when did it fucking double?! Those cheeky cunts. How man Jews do they think lived in Germany??
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>>133709085
we unironically need to start using crickets as a viable source of protein at this point.
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>>133713171
Thanks Anon. The civil war period is an incredible period of American history and definitely worth reading about.

Though to be clear, Lincoln and co were very NOT racist by the standards of their time. They considered black men to be men, just not the intellectual equal to white men. This was very liberal by their standards. (Not the educated Confederate men like Robert Lee held these viewed as well)
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>>133713802
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>>133713790
The market would have corrected itself much faster if FDR and his communist shills weren't constantly fucking with it. The depression was inevitable, given the easy money policies of the preceeding decades. America had plenty of recessions in the past, but they all corrected within a few years without any government interference. Implementing nonsensical socialist policies, and the single largest expansion of federal government power in American history, is what turned a regular recession and temporary market correction into the Great Depression.

Or did you actually think stealing everyone's gold, inflating the money supply by 1/3, and legislating limits to grain production in order to artificially raise prices (at a time when people had trouble putting food on the fucking table) were all solutions that "saved America"?
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>>133709826
dont forget that he had a micropenis, was a latent homosexual, had one testicle, had brown eyes, was a coward, used to personally hang jews up with piano wire at dinner parties, personally burned jews at the stake etc. etc. etc. and dont read mein kampf because its "really boring"
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>>133710212
When did they stop teaching about the evils of communism?? Christ I distinctly remember learning about the purges, the famines, the dictatorships...
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>>133714354
And also was part Jewish himself, that's a popular one.
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>>133710410
kek. i wish you were being serious
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>>133712802
The crazy thing is my parents tell me that the official number they were taught in school was 1 mil. It's like they double it every 10 years
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>>133710699
nah. youre not a patriot if you dont give gibs to the indigenous. you have to do it and you have to value your indigenous population, no matter how bad you think they are.
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>>133711315
>kick ass and take names
names like Xe and Xer
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>>133714162
Hmm I was taught he cut government agencies and put people back to work with the new deal. Yeah he had some bullshit policies like creating the collective bargaining system which went out of control but he did build those useful highways, ended prohibition, created the SEC and appointed Hugo Black to SCOTUS, the inspiration of Scalia. Idk the only things I'm sure he did well on are Black, booze, and roads
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>>133711631
kek. that extra bone helps their knee grow
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>>133714162
Although those other policies like the gold and grain thing sound pretty fucked up
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>>133712043
>every able bodied person should work or die
right. so thats why you have welfare, right? africa is what you describe, as is china. whats going on with them, anon? you dont understand that not providing welfare actually turns your country into a shithole because its crawling with cunts who are starving and desperate and will stop at nothing, crime skyrockets and lawlessness runs rampant.
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>>133714354
Was on a long haul flight, plane had trouble and make an emergency landing in Germany. We all had to line up and deal with customer service to sort out our flights. While in line I notice this ballsy fucker. Pretty sure that's illegal in Germany
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>>133714838
US presidents are one of the most lied about groups you'll ever encounter. US history, which ends for many in highschool, is full of bullshit.

Like how people are comparing about Russia interfering with US elections? Yeah. They absolutely did. Why? Because everyone does it all the time. Wilson gets talked about positively in terms of the economy and WW1, But he was also responsible for eliminating any minorities from federal positions (pentagon went 100% white during his administration) and he is responsible for aggressively using the military to depose almost a dozen democratically elected governments in central and South America and helped instate totalitarian regimes that were, at the time, pro American (they have all since become avidly anti American. Many have also completely fallen into destitution and never recovered).

Sure Russia fucks with us but we fuck with everyone. Everyone fucks with everyone. We just don't like telling teenagers about it cuz "muh patriotism"
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>>133714893
Kek
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>>133707777
Checkd sir
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>>133715119
cheeky injuns m8. hes got some nuts bringing that into germany
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>>133709679
Makes it cool for the kiddies. Now if they taught that he would be put up there with Hitler and company so the wiener peanut allergy kids wouldn't feel bad.
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>>133715255
Yeah you think he would've stashed it in a bag at least
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Whites were the first to enslave the blacks.

The natives of the Americas were peaceful hippies before europeans came.

Nelson Mandela was a hero.

French Canadians were oppressed by the English and they were not disruptive fucks who only cared about themselves.
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>>133715549
(((they))) are afraid of its power levels. always shitting on hitler for burning books at the same time mind you
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I worked as a history teacher and would drop minor red pills for the 7-8th graders

>State rights also played a huge part of the Civil War but it boiled down to "It was a state right to own slaves" Also the confederacy lost because of failed push to reach the West coast and the north's technological and resource advantage

>Natives were just as violent if not more than the settlers and the idea of natives being one blanket people and culture is Liberal Racism

> The Spanish committed the largest Ethnic and cultural genocide in the world and had the balls to build their capital of the ruins of the Aztec empire and the only reason Mexicans exist is because of that. also stared at the most annoying Mexican when I told them that.

>Andrew Jackson was bad ass

> The Industrial Revolution and legal immigrants from Europe and Asia had a greater effect on the building of this country than the Slave trade did.
>JFK was a bad ass
> The Cold War was stupid but needed because there's more stupid people that would destroy their homes and country so they didn't have to go to work on monday and if something wasn't done Marx would be even more of a cancer than it ended up being.

Theres more but I think that covered it.
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>>133716420
Saying "states Rights" as a cause for the civil war is a bit disingenuous, as "right to own slaves" was really the only states right that was being contested.
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I've posted this before but it's somewhat related to my initial redpilling.

>History class
>Skim through most important events
>only half a page for some events in the textbook, short lessons mainly
>get to Muh holocaust
>SEVERAL PAGES LONG
>Teacher gets teary eyed and speaks in a low dramatic voice
>explains the deaths in details (lampshades included)
>repeatedly says its the worst crime ever committed etc.
>Even as a kid, think to myself why is this subject so covered when we barely had 10 pages for our own history/politics
>discover the interbutts eventually and it all makes sense

Yeah, still remember that old teacher and the way she spoke about THIS AND THIS EVENT ALONE. She'd joke about everything else and just rush through lessons but we talked about the Holocaust for more than a week. Not even a Jewish country for fucks sakes I've never met a jew.
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>>133707976

This is a big one

Fuck cunta kinte
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this thread:

>murican education

:DDDD
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>>133709127

I also learned this

We also were explicitly told egypt was black
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>>133706623
The Belgian "revolution"
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>>133712194

We learned jews were used to mass produce soap, pillows and leather aswell

Our Jewish teacher also explicitly told us not to read mein kamf because its boring and hitler could barely write
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>>133714110

I was taught 11 million aswell
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>>133714354

I was taught all this

Also he had syphilis and altzeimers
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A lot of this just brings me back to my personal opinion to combat modern brainwash: keep watching old TV shows. Run the numbers in an inflation calculator when you hear prices mentioned, pay attention to the social issues on shows from 50, 60, 70 years ago now. Look at them in the context of what you're hearing today. Realize a whole lot of people are totally full of shit.
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>>133718482
what kind of a teacher is that, fuck him

read it, and then you decide
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Elementary school history teacher a few years after the fall of Commienism:

>Spartacus' rebellion took up like one half of our Roman history classes even though it had zero impact on the grand scheme of things
>unironically referred to medieval times as the Dark Ages™
>made it sound like the Spanish inquisition was a thing throughout medieval times in all of Europe
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>>133706623
We are evil colonialists. When teacher gets pointed out that Finland had no colonies and that Finland as a country was first a Swedish colony which is what history teacher should be aware of. When pointed out that what she teaches is bullshit the narrative changes to:

Finland must pay reparations for blacks because we sold tar which was used in ships an might have been used in slave ships
maybe..

I don't understand why eve countries that literally dindu nuffin must be made accountable for collective crimes of some? Then again my history teacher was a Swedish woman married to a Jew.
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>>133720979
>we sold tar which was used in ships an might have been used in slave ships maybe

kek. takes a Swede to come up with these mental gymnastics
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>>133707835
>>133708282
>>133710127
>>133710918
>>133713190
*tips tinfoil*
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>>133706623
That anti-communism was bad and un-American. The whole cold war era was taught with a slant that everything the US govt did was wrong and all the wrongs the communists did weren't even mentioned slightly. The soviets were portrayed more as a misunderstood and different culture instead of being giant faggots. The Chinese were hardly even mentioned at all, literally don't even remember the Korean war being taught at all. Sino-Soviet split was about the only mention about the Chinese and the tiny man square protest.
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>>133706623
All ww2 documentaries say that the US helped the UK until more recently. A documentary called ww2 from space states that the UK surrendered to the US.

It lists the terms of surrender which are factual.

Lel
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>>133708354
Engineering a fungus that destroys potato crops was probably beyond British science at the time.
Exporting non potato food from a starving Ireland was completely fucked and it's no surprise that there would be resentment.

Also don't come back.
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>>133714354
>was a coward
>dont read mein kampf because its "really boring"
Those are objectively true. Hitler couldn´t stand seeing the execution of the Juniverschwörer (Operation Valkyrie), and Mein Kampf might not be absolutely boring but is exceptionally bad written.
He had some flaws, you gotta admit that.
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>>133706623
That unregulated Capitalism is somehow a good thing. It's definitely not.
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>>133714380
Graduated 2005 here, not one word K-12 in the negative about commies. No mention of soviet war atrocities, holodomor, great leap forward, etc. Nothing good really said either, just utterly glossed over.
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dunno if this counts, but in year 10 we were showed a film about slavery. Cunty Quinte Dindu or something, and they showed whipipo going around catching africans in nets in trees and selling them in to slavery

I believed that til I was 18 then learned other dindu's actually sold them to the americans.

but you wouldn't believe the left wing indictrination in british schools, hence why they're all so left

again, not really revisionist but I wanted to share anyway.
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>>133723220
That woman's face was on the front page of Irish news papers. Brought a smile to my face.

>Burn coal pay the toll
On the front page.
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>>133723220
Oh this one too, same deal, different circumstances, but I was explicitly told the slave trade was perpetuated by white raiding parties with nets and shackles that would scour the coasts for innocent tribesmen to abduct.

What an image.
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>>133723046
>corporate tyranny
What's this? Someone pulls a gun to my head and tells me to shop at Asda?
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>>133723639
It's leopold of Belgium chopping your hands off if you don't work fast enough. Or American banks crashing your economy.
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>>133723954
At least they got civilization.
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>>133724203
What's the point if the poor people live in 3rd world shitholes? That makes it even more depression and oppressive. There's a reason why suicides are higher in first world countries. Having "civilization" isn't enough.
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I remember having it explained that the population of the South and West of the US was growing while the Northeast and Midwest declined because people from the latter areas were moving south to a warmer climate. While there may be some attributable shifts due to that it completely ignored immigration and the declining white birth rate.
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>>133720254
Jews have been controlling the media for longer than that. I recommend histories written before 1945.
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>>133708680
>>133709037
the hole in the ozone layer is still there retards. it's not growing at the same rate as in the 90's before the substances causing it were banned, but it's still there, although it is slowly closing. maybe you could spend 5 minutes researching things before posting.
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>>133709437
how embarrassing
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>>133709437
This retard is the product of revisionist history in school
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>>133714110
6 million jews, 11 million people total

that's what kids are taught
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>>133709162
Gen. Sullivan > Sh*rman
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>>133721767
0.01$ has been added to your account
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>>133706983
Lincoln was against slavery you fucking moron. He just was prepared to tolerate it if it would save the Union.
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>>133706623
I think the biggest one is just omission of truths. For example when we learn about the crusades we aren't really told about how the europeans were attacked for centuries before they retaliated. Then we hear about how bigoted the catholics were to muslims and jews. But there was a very pragmatic reason as to why they were. Jews invited in and actively helped the muslims over throw the european powers. The catholics were scared of apostasy and losing control.
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>>133716893
Wrong, there was also a huge number of tariffs placed on the south by the north
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>>133709306
>Obviously we read dissenting voices
See, this is where you part ways with American higher ed.
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>>133728172
The crusades are both tragic and hilarious. It's basically a bunch of Frenchmen and Germans given immunity by the pope and going full "GREEK FUCKING SHITS" through the Byzantine empire on their way to Jerusalem.
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Not so much historically inaccurate, but we had a huge emphasis placed on women's suffrage in the UK in 1928. When I later looked into it myself, years later, I learnt that men only got universal suffrage in 1918 (and in the same act, some women over 30 were afforded it too).

Women's suffrage in the UK wasn't a gigantic battle fought over a century. It was the culmination of a slow roll-out of suffrage that was only a little behind that of normal men and yet that is ignored.
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>>133706623
Nixon was impeached and got everyone killed in Vietnam
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>>133711469
I always seem to forget the Simpsons used to be redpilled.
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>>133713768
>As if the defeated Carthaginians didn't sail up the Amazon and live in the mountains of Peru where their descedents still live in a tribe of unusually blond-haired and blue-eyed Indians.
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>>133728057
>Lincoln was against slavery
>He was prepared to tolerate it
pick one
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>>133729461
And that he's not still alive
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>>133706623
I once asked my teacher how could they kill 6 million jews without automation like a slaughter house, got called a monster and paraded around the school as a filthy holocaust denier. I ignored pretty much everything they told me after that and entertained myself with books I brought from home or by carving dicks in my desk
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>>133723046
All anarchy is liberty, the top half should be destroyed.
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>>133706623
I've told this story before but I had a prof at my college (History of Rock and Roll prof) say that white men enslaved black men because they had bigger dicks.
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Abraham Lincoln was a Homosexual.
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>>133716893
Not necessarily ... regardless of how you (anyone) tries to slide slavery into the equation, the South (rightfully) believed that the Federal Government telling States how to conduct their business was wrong.

>The subject of Slavery, in any and every view of it, was, to the Seceding States, but a drop in the ocean compared with those other considerations involved in the issue of secession. - Alexander Stephens

>IN SECESSION WAS INVOLVED THIS GREAT RIGHT, WHICH LIES AT THE FOUNDATION OF THE FEDERATIVE SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT — IT WAS OF INFINITELY MORE IMPORTANCE TO THE SOUTHERN STATES THAN SLAVERY, SO-CALLED, WITH ITS TWO THOUSAND MILLIONS OF CAPITAL INVESTED IN THAT INSTITUTION. - ALEXANDER STEPHENS

Fully 1/2 of the US Congress willfully left to defend the principles that the government was originally founded upon.

One million Southern farm boys did not leave their obligations and go to war, just to save a rich man's slaves. They went to defend the constitution!
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>>133736169
So what? His sexuality had nothing to do with his accomplishments.
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>>133720979
Wait, what? Is the slaveship tar thing really taught in schools now? I thought it was only that one retarded blogger who practically everyone laughed at then.

I'm older, so my history lessons carefully tiptoed around anything that might portray Soviet Union in a negative light.
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>>133716420
Well, after three years of throwing thousands of men to their death (Pickett's Charge & Franklin, etc) attrition began to takes its toll.

The north never had a manpower supply problem. While NY was rioting against going to war, (still the largest riot in US history), any boat from Ireland, Germany, etc. that arrived in a northern port, they were immediately given a rifle & put on a train headed South.

Plus, late in 1864, when news began to spread that Sherman (married his sister) was putting whole towns worth of women (Roswell, New Manchester, etc.) on trains headed north to OH, IL & IN, CSA desertion rates skyrocketed.
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>>133706623
Black History month: 99% bollocks!
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>>133709839
> Napoleon
They don't teach Napoleon because 'muh precious liberal values have never been spread by fire and sword!'
> Middle ages
If you ever wanted to have the biggest anti-govt redpill in your entire life, study medieval England. Imagine a complex system of laws enforced by almost no government, local control of the means of government and anti-federalism you just have to look at england. In fact the middle ages with all its lords and laws was one of the freest periods of human history and spurred on nearly all of our great culture because of the decentralized nature of the government before the protestant revolutions triggered a trans-national catholic government and its national kingships to crack down on human freedom.
> Rome
They can't let you know about your culture, you know?
> WW1
because then they'd have to explain to you about how terrible communism was in Russia.
> WW2
See above except also about Germany
> commies
See, if you knew how communism happens you'd know that this is what they are pushing for right now. Then you'd fight back. Better dead than red!
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>>133737120
I believe it did. On the whole & outset you may be correct, but the fact he was deeply attracted to men is never taught. If you look closer at the man, he was obviously a Liberal, and thousands of examples over the last few years can prove liberal homocidal rage. The fact he truly a Homosexual, he married a crazy woman no man wanted for political gain, gives insight into who he was as a person, and that study is always overlooked.

Abe Lincoln was a Faggot.
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Just the standard "white wealth was built on black slavery" nonsense

The reality is that slavery hindered economic production in the South, it kept the South poor and aristocratic actually. There's a great quote from Alexis de Tocqueville, who visited the US in the 1830s, he said that when he went down South he immediately noticed that the main streets, unlike in the North, were no longer bustling. There was no economic growth, the people were lazy and depended on an unpaid underclass to provide their wealth.

De Tocqueville also notably stated that the Northern states he visited were far more racist than the slave states he visited:
>In that part of the Union where the Negroes are no longer slaves, have they come closer to the whites? Everyone who has lived in the United States will have noticed just the opposite. Race prejudice seems stronger in those states that have abolished slavery than in those where it still exists, and nowhere is it more intolerant than in those states where slavery was never known
>In the South, where slavery still exists, less trouble is taken to keep the Negro apart: they sometimes share the labors and the pleasures of the white men; people are prepared to mix with them to some extent; legislation is more harsh against them, but customs are more tolerant and gentle.
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>>133707102

The only "states' right' that the CSA cared about was whether states had the right to declare black people to be slaves for life.

States don't have the right to ignore federal law whenever they want. Settled in 1865, but you can go another round any time you want your cities burned down.
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>>133737312
Our (upper) high school (lukio) was more international than average high school. We had a mandatory history course on 3.rd world which wasn't part of the national curriculum. It was this course we had the learn Marxist/post-modernist revisionist bullshit.

Now wonder our high-school produced radical leftists like a factory line. On the downside where you brainwash people with Marxism you also create radical right-wingers who refuse the propaganda they're been fed.
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>>133738680
The Declaration of Independence was not that they were to be one State, but "thirteen free, Sovereign and Independent States." This was in strict accordance with the instructions of their constituents. The people of the several Colonies would not consent for a Declaration to be made in any other way. The Declaration of Independence was forming a Confederation of Independent States. - Alexander Stephens, 1868
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>>133738809
"With these qualifications we may admit the same right as vested in the people of every State in the Union, with reference to the General Government, which was exercised by the people of the United Colonies with reference to the supreme head of the British Empire, of which they formed a part; and under these limitations have the people of each State in the Union a right to secede from the Confederated Union itself. Here stands the right! But the indissoluble union between the several States of this Confederated Nation is, after all, not in the right, but in the heart! If the day should ever come (may Heaven avert it), when the affections of the people of these States shall be alienated from each other; when the fraternal spirit shall give way to cold indifference, or collision of interest shall fester into hatred, the bands of political asseveration will not long hold together parties no longer attached by the magnetism of conciliated interests and kindly sympathies; and far better will it be for the people of' the dis-United States, to part in friendship from each other, than to be held together by constraint; then will be the time for reverting to the precedents which occurred at the formation and adoption of the Constitution, to form again a more perfect Union by dissolving that which could no longer bind, and to leave the separated parts to be re-united by the law of political gravitation to the centre!" - John Quincy Adams
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>>133725471
I collect CSA history books. My focus is on books printed prior to WW2.
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>>133710329
And free the jews.
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hard to say.

the civil war has always been far too simplified.

I ain't a confederate but the entire army could die and no one would care, but if one dog dies everyone cries
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oh also chicano studies, the last class I took in undergrad (rather recently) was like exactly what jordan peterson warns about
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>>133713190
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>>133738809

The Declaration of Independence was just a declaration. The Constitution, and most relevantly The Bill of Rights, is what actually formed the basis of our government.
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>>133714138
Abraham Lincoln was a Liberal.
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>>133712332
Everyone Forgets Acid Rain ...
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>>133738761
Heh, let me guess: Steiner? It's hard to believe that shit would fly in a lot of high schools since most students already have had close encounters with "diversity" during lower grades.
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>>133740331
Not Steiner. Lyceum.
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>>133706623
That Réné Lévesque was "stabbed in the back" by Trudeau and the other provincial premiers during the final hours of the constitutional talks of 1982. "Night of the Long Knives", my ass. The bald, cancerous dwarf simply slept in.
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>>133706623
>Russia's influence in WWII completely airbrushed out.

According to our history books circa the 1990s America just kind of did frontflips into Europe and BTFO out of Hitler on their own.
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The holocaust
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>>133709306
Can confirm, was at an ancient history camp this week, "The goths dindu nothin" is complete academic doctrine
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That MLK is the only civil rights icon bc he was non violent. Whitey always gotta keep the negro passive
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>>133710074
Thank you, you might actually be the last literate person on 4chan
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>>133742759
Either passive or dead. Your choice nigger.
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Oh, remembered another one: during our Civil War, the Reds were the absolute good guys and the Whites were the worst evil imaginable.
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>>133708932
Horyfuck!! A jew actually working with a shovel.

By God, Ive seen it all..
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>>133744194
Used to be taught the other way around. The real fact being there were arseholes on both sides. It was a civil war. They aren't usually pretty.

Also people abused the situation. One white guardsman tried to accuse our family of being communists inorder to take our lands. Unknown to him our family was well connected within the white army leadership.. Great grandpa burned down his house as a reminder that you shouldn't fuck with us.
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>>133709372
What is Shiloh?
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>>133709372
It worked like he planned. It's not like he invented terror campaigning but he sure brought it back with a vengeance.

War isn't gentlemen like duel. Sherman realized this just like Pershing and Patton did later.
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I was taught how much Patton hated Nazi's in school.

Later, I learned he fucking hated Jew's. The Patton papers
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US education is a fucking joke.
>going over ww2(any class I took)
>happens in one day, teacher goes over only Pearl Harbor, Nukes and Holocaust
Also I had a teacher in middle school who made us read that anne frank shit. She said it took place in WW1 and kicked me out of class for saying it took place in WW2.
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>>133706623
Probably the biggest lie is you're taught that the United States up until 1914 NEEDED a central bank and it was our lack of a central bank that led to economic instability.

In truth the biggest period of growth in our HISTORY came from the years of 1870-1914 before the Federal Reserve came into the picture through Woodrow Wilson.

It's taught that all of this "market instability" was caused by free enterprise and the lack of a central bank to even things out, when in reality these were natural cyclical market fluctuations that are going to happen regardless of whether or not we had a central bank.

Not to mention that after we finally got a central bank in 1914 we had the largest economic crash in our history with the Great Depression, compounded by Hoover and FDR's excessive spending where the Federal Reserve didn't even accomplish what it was meant to achieve which was to prevent this sort of thing and what was the cause of all of this massive deflation and economic turmoil?

Capitalism. BAKA.

Now that I realize how much of a scam the Federal Reserve system is it's CRAZY how much of what I was taught in school is simply put in place to justify this federal reserve system.
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>>133726400
I totally believe (((them))). It's not like Duponts patent was expiring or anything.
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>>133723046
Unregulated with an honest media and with people who aren't taxed to hell might work.
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>>133734420
>ancom is liberty
Top laf
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>>133710037
You dumb motherfucker he HAD EVIDENCE FOR EVERY ACCUSATION HE EVER MADE.

Read Blacklisted by History.
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>>133708913
I remember that shit
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>>133706623
The natives were worth a damn.
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>>133708913
Holy shit, I never realized how much that shit was just pure propaganda as a kid. There is absolutely no way my kids will be going to public school.
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>>133708913
We had this for a few years, but liberals, conservatives, and teachers banded together to get rid of it. Liberals didn't like it because of the corporate ads, conservatives didn't like it because of the Marxism indoctrinating kids from Jew York City, teachers didn't like it because it cut into their lesson time.
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Natives dindu nuffin and weren't violent savages who deserved to be genocided because they wouldn't behave. Also the dictatorship was literally Hitler. We were never taught anything about the ERP or montoneros of course.
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>>133714838
>cut government agencies
Pure fiction, I'm afraid. He oversaw a colossal expansion of government agencies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_agencies

>put people back to work
The New Deal was based on Keynesian principles, so the government's great plan was to devalue the dollar, go into debt, and spend all that money they didn't have on government make-work programs. We all laugh at the Soviet scheme of paying people to dig ditches and paying others to fill them in, but when FDR did the same thing, it was the move that saved America.

Also, roads would have been built regardless, perhaps with money that actually existed. The SEC was a joke and didn't even address the root cause of the depression, and Hugo Black was a mixed bag at best. He purported to support the Constitution, but at the same time was a strong supporter of the New Deal, using the same Olympic-level mental gymnastics that modern courts do to argue that your gargantuan federal government is somehow explicitly authorized by the Constitution and the Founders. He was good about free speech, I'll give him that.
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>>133710037
Exactly. Ironically it's the Democrats acting the most McCarthyite right now.
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That the native South Africans (Hottentots) lived an Edenesque existence of idleness and innocence before being ideologically and literally raped by the white man.
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>>133706623
Here in Canada, we're taught that the British did all the atrocities and the French never did anything wrong.
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>>133709437
The freedom to own slaves and the economy behind slaves. Not simply "muh wayciss wants to have slaves". Elaborating on your own reason refutes your one-dimensional viewpoint.
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>>133739605
Oh so you get to pick and choose which literate is relevant or not, got it.
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>>133749494
Also, he was issuing executive orders like it was going out of style.
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The ones doing coup in 1974 against right-wing dictatorship were good guys and did nothing wrong afterwards (PREC, hot summer '75, nationalizations, bankrupcy, European flight).
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>>133750360
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I learned about the holocost in every grade from 7th and up. In every history class even in the english class we had books like frankenstein thrown out and was replaces by eddie wisels night. Thankfully not everybody cared at that point.
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I had a turbo liberal English teacher my sophomore year who thought Johnson was the greatest president ever for signing the Civil Rights bill. I told her I thought he was one of the worst for escalating Vietnam. Apparently she could care less about people dying for a dumb war in Vietnam.
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Nothing is taught why Japan bombed pearl harbour.

obviously nothing to do with the huge trade embargo on Japan that was destroying the country.

However Japan was on a kill streak through Asia at the time and Britain was like "muh China!"
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The big switch is a lie.
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>>133708282
<3 Joe
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