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Why is /bant/ so much better than us?

>>133671091

every meta thread

>we need to ban this, and this, and this

It's weird how 4chan users trend toward authoritarian moderation, despite this website allowing an incredible amount of freedom, which is what makes it so great

It's 4chan. Cancer will happen.
8pol is opposite. People get banned for saying jews are ok. This is the same circle jerk mentality as reddit.

We have to deal with some cancer but there are a lot of threads that shouldn't exist per the board rules

>>133671194
If we kill /bant/ they win.

>>133671091
I think we should ban all threads that portray Hitler, Assad, and Trump in a positive light.

Also, ban all threads that portray Jewish people in a negative light.

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>>133671091
Give us the Anglosphere Flag

>>133671091
/pol/ is only as good as its participants. There's nothing we can do to change it, we can only recruit newfags that we think aren't complete asshats.

We need a report for off topic option added to the report dropdown and people need to start using it.

First ban meta threads. And stop letting poos hide behind false flags.

>>133671657
I like this idea

>Style /pol/ like /ns/ on 8ch with a sticky describing certain points of views and arguments for/against to eliminate threads on the same subject
>Crack down on Plebbit shit like Kekistan and other cringe memes
>No more /ptg/ and other autismo generals like /cpg/
>No more "/pol/ BTFO, how can x compete", and other threads we are told not to post in the sticky
>New, loyal moderators/janitors that browse /pol/ regularly and care about the quality of the board
>Shitposting threads redirected to /bant/ by said new mods/jannies

I had an idea on shutting down the shitposting and b tier/shill thread. The slide rate for any thread that only has one post by OP should increase the longer it stays up.

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>>133671091
We can't weed out shills, so I think the best thing we can do is try to individually maximize post quality. Shitpost less, put more thought into your posts, and be more articulate. Do your best posting as much as possible and force the shills to adapt. Do what you can to let the truth speak for itself.

>>133672031
We need to attract more diverse opinions. 2015 /pol/ was cool. You could have actual political debate after 15 minutes of shitposting and learn stuff. Now we are the worst board. We are worse than /b/

3 word replies are not bumpable; this number could be slightly higher.

the rationale is to prevent retards insulting others or just writing a very low efffort reply that bumps a shitty thread.

This low effort (you) is exponential. Motivates someone to shitpost making slightly harder for a shitty thread to die off.

This could also be useful in the sense that an anon writes a 10 word OP.Another retard comes off and write a 'kys moron' reply.Thread does not bump. Dies faster.

If theres discussion the reply will be longer than few words and the thread will bump.

The only thing that would possibly make things better is if the sticky explained why it's bad to post non saged replies to obvious bait and share blue shill threads

>>133671091

There should be a better process to pin a major halting thread and then delete the extras that pop up.

Every time we even have a minor happening there will be 15 fucking threads about it.

>>133674348
That's actually already been implemented
London bridge attack was like what you described in contrast to the airport bombing last year with threads all over the place

report bullshit threads dont even reply

>>133674469

They need to be consistent with it then. How many delicate trump junior threads have you seen this week? It's gotta be in the hundreds.

>>133672031

ptg and sg stay, these are board defining threads

if you don't agree with that, you shouldn't be here

>>133674571

*duplicate

People respond to every fucking "le trump is going to jail xD" post. They could even be marginally useful threads to refute the points the MSM is presenting but all they do is call the OP a shill.

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Permanent, public bans.
Check the banlist right now, nobody but ban-evaders get more than 3-day bans it seems, and even they only get a month.

>>133674603
I agree with keeping /sg/ but /ptg/ has become a non stop circle jerk and reddit cesspit since november. It is ground zero of the redditfugee influx to /pol/

>>133671091
I am hungry
My dev PC is dying
I am sitting waiting for the new build to arrive
Days now

>>133672547
el peruANO

>>133674790
This, its literally their beachfront assault.

IT MUST GO

Ban OP

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>>133671091
Get rid of the nazi mods and let the spice flow.

I mean, really. Obviously ban the obvious spam and off-topic, but shit like elsa-gate isn't spam.

Neither are /pol/ culture things like the space face and what not. Just because it's /x/ doesn't mean it's not /pol/.

Let the board cancer itself a bit, we're getting to reddit levels of shitty discourse because of the shit mods enabling the shit redditor rapefugees.

Also anime.

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>>133671091
Any mods who give out erroneous bans should immediately lose mod status.
Does this look like a legitimate ban to you?

>>133674152
one line responses only bump when a URL is posted or theres a '?' interrogation mark at the end.


There should be a statistical analysis of what kind of posts formats motivates discussions, gets (yous). ie.Posts written in one line that are 15 words or less and are without an interrogation mark or an URL dont get (yous) therefore they dont bump threads when they are posted early on in response to an OP that is one line. ie2 OP in said low effort format, post in said format, less than 'x' replies.Not Bump.

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>>133674344
Oh that reminds me. Ban posters who post "saged" or "reported" to a thread or any mixture of that.

Seriously, it's fucking retarded.

>>133674878
Then you don't want a wall.
Anyways Redditors aren't very keen on free speech. And 4chan as a whole was never to be a hugbox

>>133671091

Topics that need to be banned:
>BLACKED/BBC/(how can white bois even compete?)
>dashposting (socialism doesn't wo-)
>Bessposting (silly, sweetie, honey, etc)
>pic unrelated (asks question about UBI; posts pic of woman's ass in thong underwear)

Mod accountability. I haven't trusted them since we found out that there's an antifa mod that was shutting down the Right Wing Safety Squad threads.

>>133671091
Stop allowing any other links to be posted unless they link to an Archive.
There are way too many journalist outlets just throwing their click bait into threads hoping to generate views, and it just generates discussion full of anons baiting each other to the point where no one is actually discussing anything.

And mods need to chill the fuck out about some topics. I've seen threads with real discussions get deleted for no fucking reason.

>>133675094
Depends on what image (if any) you posted.

If you didn't post CP then it is.
If you posted scantily clad real children/early teens/below-18, then the mod shouldn't have banned you but I agree with the ban.

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>>133675094
Yes.

>>133675094
>If you didn't post CP then it is.
If you didn't post CP then it isn't.*

>>133675776
This aswell. Norwaybot does a good job but he can't keep up with all the non-archived links.

People need to stop saying "we." Oldfags don't want to be lumped together with plebbitors and kekistani cringe factories. There is no "us."

>>133671568
it won't make you not a leaf.

>>133675677
>pic unrelated (asks question about UBI; posts pic of woman's ass in thong underwear)
Kill yourself.

Also naked knee socks >>>>>> woman's ass in thong underwear

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>>133676117
I take pride in being a Leaf. It may be an insult but it helped awaken my dormant nationalism.

>>133671568
A
FUCKING
LEAF

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ban every thread with "it's happening" in the header

ban frogposting

>>133672031
Why do people get so uppity over generals? They keep to themselves and don't spam the board. I hardly even noticed /ptg/.

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>>133676270
Canadian!

>>133672031
>Style /pol/ like /ns/ on 8ch with a sticky describing certain points of views and arguments for/against to eliminate threads on the same subject
THIS X1000
It would easy as fuck to implement and it would help sooooooo much.

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>>133675815
I've never posted any CP, usually I don't even post pictures of girls, I just get banned for having opinions these faggot new mods don't like.

>>133671091
We use to call out stormfags since their arguments would have no intelligent outcome other then " i hate them cause their race" bullshit. Now threads seem rampant with idiocy. The kek fags and the_donald faggots really need to fuck off. More so the_donald idiots cause they are idiot memers who cannot think for themselves. The bait threads need to be banned but that would mean a dedicated janitor for just /pol/. Im pretty sure /pol/ peaked after this last election and now we're in for the drop into a shit hole.

>>133675970
i dont like the bot it only archives certain links and faggots keep replying to it like retards

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We need another /pol/ harbor type event to purge the board of redditors and normies. Since the mods won't do it i have an idea. A stupid idea.

We engage in a good old fashioned board war with /b/. The resulting chaos will send casuals back to where they came from and possibly improve both board. Thoughts?

>>133676462
pol peaked in 2010-2011 with the last 6 months of
newand the first 6 months of 4ch-n new

>>133671568
where is the Indian wheel?

A lot of you are starting to sound like fucking Reddit with your censorship ideas. Cut it the fuck out. Yes, we have cancer. 4chan has had stage 4 cancer for over a decade. If you can't handle it fuck off to infinity chan.

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digits and OP gets diarrhea tomorrow

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>>133676839
Anglosphere != Commonwealth

>>133671091
>How would you fix /pol/
Post gps coordinates of all posters under the communist flag and allow the rest of us to hunt down these parasites

>>133671091
they need all the anarcho flags, also lose the kekistan flag

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>>133677126
first decent suggestion in the whole damn thread

>>133674603
ptg is reddit cancer, it only started in 2015 so I hardly consider it "board defining"

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>>133677317
Anglosphere flag

>>133671250
Honestly those blacked threads should go.

>>133676358
>They keep to themselves

Exactly the problem. Isolation causes circlejerking. Just look at all the tripfags in Brit/pol/

>>133677126
Add Obamaleaf and I'm game.

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>>133677434

>>133671091
ban Turks, the board will be 5000000% better

>>133675330
Another suggestion.

Ghost threads.

What is it.

Theres threads that are live in the calogue, for everyone to see.
Theres Threads that died off from the catalogue, but are live only to the people that have it opened on their browsers, who can continue to shitpost on it and are the only users that can see it.

Threads go ghost mode when they reach the archive and stay ghostable for some time until they go 404.

The idea is that a shitty thread is created, then said shitty thread will receive shitty replies.
Now we get a list of key words that make a OP elegible to be ghostable.
These threads are the kind that people love to shitpost on and add no value to the board.
Threads go ghost by two criterias.
1Amount of one line replies.
2A mod makes its ghostable.
Which, to refresh your memory, means that no reply can bump the thread and everyone can see it until they reach page 10. Now after page 10 they continue to be 'postable' by the people that have it opened on their browsers, until another criteria is reached and theads goes 404 like /bant/.

There a kind of OP that is an URL of a news article that rustles anon's jimmies. This could be used as an additional criteria along with one line replies.
If an OP is an URL (of any kind, or within a range or know fake news URLs) + one line of known shitpost key words or just one line of text, threads goes ghost.

This could be combined with key words and one line replies to make it activate the feature.

Now I have a slightly feeling all of my 3 posts ideas are very non-implementable.
kek

>>133677475
Wouldn't know, I never open those threads.

>>133671091

ONLY ARCHIVE LINKS CAN BE POSTED ON /POL/

>>133677126
This sounds fun

>>133672031
>ban threads I don't like
>(((new))) (((loyal))) mods

take a guess how I know you're from leftpol or some commie subleddit

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>>133671091

I'm sick of threads asking which "rap star" is best.

Who gives a fuck about dumbass thugs and their music? What the hell does this have to do with politics?

>I'm also sick of the Leafs whining about guns

>>133677475
Or hell, look at /vg/. /vg/ is what happens in the terminal stages of isolation. Several of the threads literally have a culture so different from 4chan's, it's sickening.

>>133677608
This is a really good suggestion.

>>133677605
4chan is already blocked in their shitty """"country"""" but they still come on somehow.

>>133677626
Granted, Brits love creating British only threads on almost every board but Brit/pol/ used to be somewhat good until it became 100% tripfag cancer

>>133677755
Let me guess, you are the Aussie fag that loves spamming BLACKED every night around 11:00, right? kys pls

>>133672547
Yeah 2015 was good stuff. Then the election happened (which was fun admittedly) and now the board's just shitty.

Ban shitposting faggots like the "trump piss tape released" thread. Totally fake, irrelevant bullshit.

>>133671091
The /brit/ threads must be purged, these garbage roaches are infesting the entire board and it's time someone did something about it. The slavs, krauts, even the damn spics have taken it to themselves and went off to make their own respective boards. But the ever anglo parasite encroaches on any of the greatness of others. Not only are the thread shit and cancerous like I mentioned before they're infesting the rest of 4chan. They even have their britfeels in /r9k/ . . . how pathetic does one have to be, that they need their safe space wherever they infest? All who participate in those threads need to be purged and any American executed for colluding with the enemy.

is it time for /e-celeb/?

>>133677608
Replies not generating (yous) among themselves along with being one liners could also make a thread ghostable.

>>133671091
One line bait posts need to carry bans.
I know bans dont do anything. Ban them again, and again. It's the only tool we have

>>133671091
Ban hate speech
Ban trump supporters
Ban anti- LGBTTQQIAAP threads
Ban discussion of Jews completely unless to discuss the Holocaust
Ban Holocaust denial

>>133674781
You might notice also a string of completely innocuous posts being handed 3-days bans site-wide for issues that should be 1- very obviously board-wise 2- not a ban anyway (e.g. being banned for saying you don't like an anime? Really?).
You will also notice a string of bans for posts that use the word 'nigger', even when it is completely relevant to the question and isn't used in an inherently insulting or racist way, even in a post that gives a detailed reply to a post: "you will not post the following outside of /b/: ... racism ..."

>>133671250
>4chan users trend toward authoritarian moderation

I see what you are getting at, however one of the basic rules of /pol/ is

>Off-topic and /b/-tier threads will be deleted (and possibly earn you a ban, if you persist). Unless they are quality, well thought out, well written posts
>Unless they are quality, well thought out
This part needs to be the enforced part.
No shitty threads where op only says "what does /pol/ think about this" AND NOTHING ELSE. I feel OP should be required to post their thoughts. at least a few sentences.

>>133671091
tweet screen shots should be instaban material
put a character limit in the OP since too many times its bullshit
ban happeniniggers forever
no selectable flags, I want leafs back because they're easier to filter that way

>>133678681
We should test making them a not bumpable thread when they are the OP.

Saves the effort of having a mod manually evaluate them.

>>133671091
Remove the choosing of flags. That's about all I would do: Removing something that was added for no good reason.

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>>133678898
>"you will not post the following outside of /b/: ... racism ..."
Global rule 3, you take that chance if you wanna go to /co/ and call those niggers niggers. Though you're right, it should be edited to include /pol/ since /b/ hasn't been relevant in years.
also
>banned for saying you don't like anime
ha

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>>133679322
Sometimes mods are gods. We need more of this.

>>133679322
>american redditard education
what did I even expect.

>>133678941
+1

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>>133679478
I wonder what flag could be hiding behind this post.

>>133679476
Like I said before, public bans would go far, they have in the past.

>>133677464
Fucking this. It's one fucking guy and he manages to shit up the board at catastophic levels

>>133666378
>>133666950

THIS FUCKING SHIT NEEDS TO STOP!

no more porn or nudes for OP pics, it would fix a lot of the bait threads

>>133676804
IT'LL NEVER WORK, IT'S HOPELESS, DON'T DO IT

>>133677464
toughen up princess, you'll never compete with that attitude

what we need is to everyone to become nazis

Put a sticky on a redpill thread

>>133678260
hahahahah
no

>>133678908
I imagine it's hard to enforce rules when the board is this fast.

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https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/Ah%20need%20mah%20AR-15/

>Bad bait pasta
>Archive shows 140 threads started with it

Put the r9k bot in place for threads (not posts). /pol/ is being flooded by post-and-dump spammers/bots. That's the origin of the "1 post by this ID" bullshit

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>>133678777
worthy of the trips

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>>133671091
I would ban anime posting from this board. any form of anime is a bannable offense for 5 days

How to fix /pol/: Actually enforce the no racism outside of /b/ global rule.

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>>133681049
>[catalog]
>zoom out a little
>scroll for short titles
>hit bottom
>scroll all the way to top and refresh
>repeat

You can see my posts in a lot of shitty shot OP's I respond with
>be me
>identify potential b8 thread
>don my alter ego(my name related)
>begin investigation
>mouse over OPs ID.
>one post by this user
>MFW

>>133681049
then how come fuck trump threads are deleted instantly

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>>133681373
You've been crying about wayyciss /pol/ for half a decade, it's not going to change turbocommie

>>133681841
It's probably automated at this point because you niggers keep coming here from SA, NeoGAF, reddit and discord and spamming identical threads

>>133682058
Pretty sure he's just shitposting. Although it does bring up a good point, that retarded rule can be used to ban people despite racism being a central part of /pol/ bantz. It should be revised to include /pol/

>>133681185
Weebshit is a part of the general 4chan culture whether you like it or not.

mods are the problem
they kill good threads like elsagate and things that are actually important that shoudn't be slided
they let those bait threads up
it's the mods.

Bring back the geographic flags

I need to pick out the rare ones.

>>133682356
Correct. And (((who))) controls the mods?

>>133682356

I would encourage more interaction between mods and users because there's gotta be a balance of policing discussion so that it isn't autism

>>133682564
you know.
you JUST know.
you JUST know why they're killing off those threads while leaving obvious bait to divert attention there.
>>133682608
maybe if they actually spoke up.
I don't think I have ever seen a mod reply to a thread in /pol/,like,ever.

Is this the reddoot.

>>133671091
4pol is a psyop testing area, they datamine people, run demoralization canpains and character assasination campains.

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>>133681436
you're doing god's work pepe

>>133671568
im not going to have my fern associated with a fucking leaf

kys

>>133682841
Pretty much this, they kick it up in the media then run here to see the effect

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>>133671091

>>133681436
lmao

>>133682695
I believe they do that only in a bread-and-circus way. I also believe they've been aggressively advertising 4chan on cancerous sites like reddit. I believe mods like >>133679476 are either rogue (most likely: new, and actually from 4chan, an extremely rare thing in case you weren't aware), or an attempt to discredit people who will point out the consistent cancerous mod actions sitewide: to never disturb the pure shilling, downright offtopic, blatantly against-the-rules threads while killing actual good on-topic legal threads. Surely in an attempt to help draw in more redditards et al. since "4chan is for shitposting, reddit is for serious discussion".

>>133682695
If they spoke up you guys would just dog pile them so what's the point?

>>133683219
this.totally this.
Mods are causing more problems than fixing
>>133683231
have THEM anwer,not one mod,they should appear in those meta threads like a Q&a

Contain anything and everything trump related into the Trump general.

ban memeflags

Im sure im not the only one who's noticed that ever since the memeflags came out and people no longer had to worry about being judged by their location the amount of faggot and commie posters has gone up significantly, also by pure """""coincidence""""" the amount of swedish and israel flags has gone down drastically

I wonder if there is a connection

>>133681841
I make bait threads all the time and they have never been deleted, not sure what you're talking about. Must be really shitty bait.

>>133671091
>How would you fix /pol/?
DAY OF THE RAKE!!

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>>133671568
>Democratic Socialist Flag please

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>>133676462
Aye, they can fuck right off or stay and discuss properly

>>133671366
>there are a lot of threads that shouldn't exist per the board rules

Those are some of the best threads

U.S. posters are the majority of /pol/ so an option I'd like for flags would be Geographic Country and a Geographic State option for burgers. Other countries with vastly different cultures and people between regions could have this option too, like the UK.

>>133684466
It used to be the case 10 years ago. Nowadays, they're the most abhorrent threads possible and imaginable.

>>133671091
get rid of the mods we have and replace them with machine-learning trained AI programs that a fucking 12 year old could program to do a better job of maintaining the boards than current mods

>inb4 ban

>>133684055
you're grasping at straws comrade

>>133671091
General threads need to be eliminated

It breeds namefagging and autism. /sp/ was literally destroyed in 2011 by mods creating generals. The content became totally unfunny and stale.

Only autistic vultures post in general threads

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>>133671091
only one thing comes to mind

>>133684055
Just filter 'em, you miss nothing valuable.

Ban anyone who has used a kekistani flag since they were introduced, problem solved.

>>133684626
Just google "extra flags for 4chan" by flaghunters and download that. Should be the first result in google.

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>>133682175
Deletions and bans arent automated. The fuckers here are manually doing their jobs.
Sounds like the fucktards are ensuring this place talks about Trump cocksucking only and will do anything to ensure the opposite does not happen.

>>133684804
But... you just posted.

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>>133676387
Yeah. Shit like this with the mods needs to stop.
/pol/ has always had it's pedoposters, it's only when they post CP is when they cross the (legal) line.

Not even a pedo btw, I like thicc thighs with naked knee socks. Free speech niggers.

If you don't like naked knee socks, you're not a man.

I feel like there were a lot of great suggestions in this thread. It's a shame nothing will be done.

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>>133671091
>fix

sage

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>>133686361
You please Inspector Pepe.

>>133686361
are you the autist who was spamming this all over /bant/ the other day?

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>>133671646
too many newfags dilutes the culture and crowds out legitimate posts

>>133671091
move hosting to somewhere where we aren't being put on multiple watchlists for posting on the site would probably help (pic related)

We all know what must be done. This is necessary.

The day of the rake must be now.

The Canadian menace has persisted for far to long, and the quelling must start.