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PAGANISM GENERAL

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This is a thread for the discussion of Paganism, the future of Aryan Race, Culture, Traditionalism, Jewish Question and Christianity.

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Something I've always wanted to know is, from a Christian perspective anyway, where did all the pagans go when they died before Yahweh revealed himself to them? Did he purposely not reveal himself, have these people die then send them to hell? That sounds pretty fucked.
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>>133667670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tgZW-TPLU4
sup bros
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>>133669178
>>133669178
The afterlife as you know it doesn't exist, you only stay in the afterlife for a set number of year then you are reincarnated as one of you descendants.
>>133669186
Welcome, we need more slavic pagans in the discord
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nice threada
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>>133667670
Why is that one guy spitting on her?
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>>133667670
yo guys let's talk about the Kali Yuga
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>>133669419
I mean it in the sense that, as everyone is told at some stage, you have to be a christian to be "saved." But if Christ only existed roughly 2000 years ago and paganism is centuries older, where do Christians think pagans go? It's such a strange thought.
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>>133667670
>implying ancestor worship and guarding the sacred fire isn't the one true Patrician religion
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In a dream I had, Odin or someone similar was angry that I had needlessly sacrificed humans and "wasted their flesh" (something current me would never dream of doing normally) so he put a horrible winter into all the land and people around were visibly mortified by this.

He (God) then showed me a deep "ocean" of darkness and explained I would be spending quite a while there.

....WTF does this mean? I wasn't even remotely interested in understanding Norse mythology until this dream occurred a couple weeks ago.
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>>133669634
>yo guys let's talk about the Kali Yuga
Definitely,

Rulers will become unreasonable: they will levy taxes unfairly.
Rulers will no longer see it as their duty to promote spirituality, or to protect their subjects: they will become a danger to the world.
People will start migrating, seeking countries where wheat and barley form the staple food source.
People will have thoughts of murder with no justification and will see nothing wrong in that.
Lust will be viewed as socially acceptable and sexual intercourse will be seen as the central requirement of life.
Sin will increase exponentially, while virtue will fade and cease to flourish.
People will take vows and break them soon after.
People will become addicted to intoxicating drinks and drugs.

We are currently living in the Kali Yuga, the best way to live through it as people of virtue is to find like minded people, avoid this (((modern society))) and contribute to it's collapse. The Kali Yuga was destined to happen, so let's work to finish it faster.
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>>133669634
The Kali Yuga, or the Iron Age is the last age of the world and the worst age.

Those with faith and virtue will find it extremely hard to live in this age.

But after this Yuga, this age, the world will become renewed and a new Golden age will sprout from the ashes.
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>>133669736
>eryone is told at some stage, you have to be a christian to be "saved." But if Christ only existed roughly 2000 years ago and paganism is centuries older, where do Christians think pagans go? It's such a strang

Most Christian believe that Pagan go to hell.
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>>133669923
it's ending in 2025
>>133669973
>But after this Yuga, this age, the world will become renewed and a new Golden age will sprout from the ashes.
no we will enter in another Iron Age
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>>133669906
>He (God) then showed me a deep "ocean" of darkness and explained I would be spending quite a while there.
Uhh, this is very strange. Do you live life with virtue? This doesn't seem like the realm Hel to me.
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>>133669736
Why do you think Christ descended into he'll after his crucifixion? It was to save the souls of those who died before his arrival.
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O wondrous little green glade
Covered in dewdrops from mother moon
On Odins Oak drinking my minute-maid
Such is the pagan way, you poon
Hailing the gods seven times seven
While diddling the lads behind the 7/11

-Thora Windleaf
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>>133670134
700bc was probably the maximum extent of Aryan conquest. Where did you get that chart from?
>>133670380
So (((God))) who is omnipotent let them burn for thousands of years. This is just some shit Christians made up so that they could convert people easier, they need to have that hell boogeyman to stop people from leaving their faith.
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LOL
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>>133667670
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My heathen greeting for I am old now

Wildfowl whispered on marshland like maidens around burning fires,
The Norse winds breathing in my soul ‘Odin doth call’
Blood is the sweat of this iron sword; proud are war smiths
I watch the coal biter musing in blood damp earth,
Before a fire and smoke of tallow he dreams of war

Fill these horns to brim, for I shall drink to Odin’s law
And eat I this meal of bread oyster and mussel shell
I see heavens stained blood red clouds as we cross the rainbow crystal bridge, we shall enter Valhalla victorious once more,

Lo shall they bleed at shores blooded by iron the Saxons fall,
Raged fires shall consume their roof as thunder of north comes forth
You call us damned that which pierces dark shadows,
We blow our horn in assembly before Odin warriors of the north

Settings suns shone red as quiet falls, serene I see Valhalla
the goat and mead hall, roasting beef and herring
I no longer fear drowning suns for the Valkyries sweet song I do hear
Freyja shall breathe my new reign at dawn

The old wars are over but our fight shall ne’er end,

Lo I see my father

-Astral Najer
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>>133670852
This Yuga Cycle timeline takes the beginning of the Golden Age to 12676 BC, more than 14,500 years before present, when the Great Bear was in the “Shravana” nakshatra (the Great Bear will advance by 3 nakshtras in every Yuga because of the 300 year transitional period). This agrees very well with the Indian tradition, since the Mahabharata mentions that in the ancient tradition the Shravana nakshatra was given the first place in the Nakshatra cycle. The timeline also indicates that the ascending Kali Yuga, which is the current epoch in which we are living, will end in 2025 CE. The full manifestation of the next Yuga – the ascending Dwapara – will take place in 2325 CE, after a transitional period of 300 years. The ascending Dwapara Yuga will then be followed by two more Yugas: the ascending Treta Yuga and the ascending Satya Yuga, which will complete the 12,000 year ascending cycle.

from here
https://grahamhancock.com/dmisrab6/
around middle
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shes a fucking heathen
shes a fucking sex demon
she fucks everyone
she fucks for fun

she fucks when shes sad
she fucks when shes mad
and im okay with that
as long as she stops smoking crack

she hits my phone
i grow a quick bone
but then i think again and i jerk off instead
because all those std's are buried deep in her bed

-John 'Redbeard' Weaver
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>>133671269
>pic
No

Genesis 9

2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
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>God doesn't exis-

Isaiah 45:5
I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
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>>133671944
>3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you
Except for pigs and shrimps, guys.
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MUH SKIN
I WORSHIP MUH SKIN
I HAVE NOTHING BUT SKIN
IM A SPIRITUAL WASTELAND
NOTHING BUT A BAG OF SKIN FOR DEMONS TO PLAY WITH
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On Thorsday morning did I wake
With a mysterious anal ache
"Slip slop", what's that sound?
It's a dildo that weighs a pound
A star blessed dildo on my friend Megan
Cuz follow we wisely the ways of the pagan

-Lynette
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>>133672320
How's it going, dominican nigger?
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>>133672320
>MUH SKIN
We don't want not Aryans to be pagans, stay Christian.
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>>133672449
How it's going fag for flag.
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I PRAY TO TREES CUZ IM A FAGGOT RETARD WITH SHIT FOR BRAINS
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>>133672729
you don't know shit nigger. do you honestly believe anybody is worshiping trees?
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>>133672320
Ignorant, spiteful, closed-minded and afraid-
The text on which you built your life, the same that you betrayed.
Holy, self-righteous, yet wholly hypocritical.
Sanctimonious bullies- bigoted and parasitical.

A veteran in the land, which to protect, he went to fight,
but for him it seems equality is not a given right.
Ridiculed, scorned- filthy sinner, heathen-
But who created him this way if not the lord that you believe in?

Your eyes are darkened. They're tinted with hate.
Your ears? Too filled to listen to debate.
But in this surge of civil rights that before has been denied,
you will be the prejudiced fool that history leaves behind.

-Audrey
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>>133672729
You're embarrassing yourself, please leave.

>>133672808
Ignore him
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MUH SKIN
MUH SKIN IS MORE IMPORTANT THAT MY SOUL
I WILL BURN MY SOUL TO GLORIFY MY SKIN
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MY SKIN IS ALL I HAVE
MY SKIN AND MY TREES
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>>133667670
> Be ashamed for getting into Occultism

> realizing that there are actual pagans out there

Feeling better now, thanks for that.
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>>133670134
>12687 B.C.
HA
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>>133672729
Rooted deep in Mother Earth
The Oak guards the circle
A Great One in a grove of natives
Standing tall and proud and wise

He has seen much season after season
He has captured the rain
Danced in the breeze
Recovered from the flames
Of a runaway bonfire

Regenerated limbs and leaves
His spine is bent but solid
His strength is unsurpassed
He is the watcher in the night

He has borne witness to our rites
Drank of our wine
Partaken of our smoke
Trusted us with his mysteries

He has been refuge for a nest of newborns
A multitude of spiders and webs
A staghorn fern as wide as his span
An orphan squirrel with tiger eyes

Grandfather Oak, we honor thee
And all your cousins in distant forests
Old growth holds ancient wisdo
Rootes deep in Mother Earth

-Azure
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>>133672098
>doesn't realize that law came around hundreds to a thousand years later
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>>133667670
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>>133673130
what's so funny?
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>>133673079
Don't let the LARPers scare you, this always happens. Sadly there's two of them (A nigger in the US and a Paki in Poland) who always shit up these threads so there's never any respite, they have both American and Euro timezones covered.

What are you interested in, Germanon?
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>>133667670
Wonder if either general could ever go without it being a shit flinging fest
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>>133669178
It depends on which denomination. In Catholicism, the noble pagans go to Limbo which is the outermost layer of hell. They are free from the wrath of God but also denied paradise. It is a place of neither punishment or reward. In other denominations it varies.
Christ said that at judgement God will reward all according to their deeds, so I personally believe that pagans who were never exposed to christianity went to heaven as long as they did their best to live moral lives but the bad pagans (like the later roman emperors who were homos and pedos etc.) went to hell.
So, there's an answer for you. Would you mind answering a question for me? Is there a valhalla for non-pagans?
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>>133673312
Religious debate on 4chan? NOT a shitflinging fest? Just filter them and move on.
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>tfw Iberia was once good celtic lebensraum
>now its just home to aryan/old european/moor mongrels who speak a vulgar latin dialect
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>>133673208
now watch them post the ((((((((((debunked)))))))))) one
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>>133673243
>he thinks the earth is that old
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>>133671360
What a time to live, out of all the ages we have to live in the Kali Yuga.
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>>133673523
you mean how the Bible is heavely edited
>>133673583
see>>133670134
6676 BC, we enter the Kali Yuga. connect the dots dummy, the Bible is not the complete story
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>>133673444
>Is there a valhalla for non-pagans?
Half of all Folk (Indo-Europeans, or just Germanics, it's iffy) go to Valhalla if they die in combat. Non-Indo-Europeans fall through the bifrost and burn to ash as they fall. The other half go to Folkvangr which is either a boat to colonize the rest of the universe with after Ragnarok or Freyja's navy to fight with during Ragnarok (It's iffy). Doesn't matter your politics or religion, if you die in combat you get in to one of the two.

There other afterlives (Or rather, places in the afterlife) that you CAN go to even if you die in combat, but Valhalla/Folkvangr are the ones you specifically asked about.
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Seek Truth, Not Salvation

Against religion and god
The heathen who influences your children
Poisoning them with ideas like
“being you is not a sin”
And
“seek the truth, not salvation”

Against the war and politics
The extremist who leads your poisoned children
To a future where
“homosexuals aren’t any different from you”
And
“boundaries between countries are blurred”

Against authority and government
The anarchist who lets your children run free
In a world in which no one has complete control
And
We are free

I am the heathen
And the extremist
And the anarchist

I am alive
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>>133673603
Evola seemed to think that we chosed to live in these times as a test of ourselves. we chose to reincarnate in the Kali Yuga to learn valuable lessons.
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How do pagans gets married?
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Abrahamic shit must perish
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>>133673809
It's my theory that Valhalla is just one part of the afterlife which goes by many names such as Annwn, Folkvangr, Elysium etc
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>>133673757
>heavely desires
Ha

maybe the new ones
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>>133673809
So there is no afterlife for non-indo-europeans who did not die in combat? That's interesting. What other places are there in the pagan afterlife?
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>>133674084
nah
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>>133674184
meant edited
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>>133673936
Interesting never heard of that before. Think of how many are falling this test.
>>133674033
You can do it in many ways, as a celebration, with a priest, or by yourself with a ritual to the gods.
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>>133674367
What if I was married as a Christian and I'm a pagan now? Should I conduct a new ceremony or does it matter?
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>>133674747
No, you don't have to do a new ceremony. It's symbolic.
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>>133673813
Why not talk about the virtues of paganism instead of trying to shit on christians? And where do you get get that christianity is acceptant of homosexuality? I can post about 50 versus from the bible that are against it, how many verses from any pagan text that are against it? Research the Synod of Ancyra, where there were so many pagans to christian converts fucking animals they had to pass several laws against it.
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Daily reminder that Eurofagans practiced "sacred prostitution."

Once a year your wife would go down to the temple of the love goddess and strange men from far and wide would pay the priest to fuck her. This is how they raised money for temple upkeep and sacrificial animals.

This is what you want to bring back. A religion that requires you let other men fuck your wife.

Your religion is literal cuckholdry. You are a cuck.

And that doesn't even get into the faggotry and pedophilia of your religion.

You are degenerate pedo faggot cucks. You don't belong here. Fuck off.
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>>133675072
Shouldn't an English teacher know how to provide a source?
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>>133674209
>So there is no afterlife for non-indo-europeans who did not die in combat?
No, there are. Or there aren't. It doesn't really matter because they just don't get into Valhalla/Folkvangr. Asatru is a religion for the Indo-European folk.

>What other places are there in the pagan afterlife?
Speaking about Asatru only, there's Hel which is at the bottom of the World Tree. It has layers. The topmost is fine and dandy and are pretty much just living in England; a little overcast and occasionally rainy but no eternal suffering or anything. As you go farther down it gets colder until you reach the very bottom where traitors, adulterers, oathbreakers, and murderers (This is a specific point relating to Germanic Warrior society, murder is a SPECIFIC offense, not just killing someone) and the like go. They get to stand around in knee high freezing water inhaling the poisonous breath of Nidhoggr, the dragon that gnaws on the World Trees roots. The dragon occasionally manages to make a hole into this layer of Hel and proceeds to chew on the people trapped within it.

Thor also has a hall, which is pretty much a big house in a large field near a forest. It only had so many homes rooms, so some think the souls there have been making the house progressively bigger as time goes by.

Njord (the god of the sea) has an afterlife presumably for sailors and the drowned but it's not well attested.

I've already spoken about Folkvangr.

Germanic society had another afterlife where, essentially, your corpse along with a number of possessions were interred into a large mound (A Barrow, in Anglo-Saxon Britain). Your soul then remained there until people basically forgot about you and stopped bringing your spirit mead and company at which point you either reincarnated or went on to another afterlife. Your soul would be able to interact with those who came by, namely by speaking to them in dreams if they slept over your barrow (2spooky).
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>Jesus thread dies
>Pagan thread at 68 posts
Very good indeed.
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>>133675072
ahh those jewi...christian stories really are spicy right ching chong? I bet your tiny 5 cm weewee got hard thinking about aryan beaties
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>>133674747
If you want to piss off God you can formally make your covenant null, go full apostate and then have a Pagan ceremony proper.
It would actually affect your relationship. Don't know how but it would.
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>>133674084
Europe is not going to be pagan again stupid shit. And if it is pagan, it's going to be the anything goes gay wiccan neopaganism which is 99% of what paganism is today.
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>>133667670
>>133671269
>>133672856

I posted this a few days ago. Do me a favour Lads.
https://strawpoll.com/4b4f7yxs
Tis a Pagan poll.
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>>133675583
>Europe is not going to be pagan again stupid shit
You're right, it's going to be islamic. Looking at how you cucks are dead set on us having to follow some sandnigger cult, I'd rather have it be the one that's still able to deal with most of the modern degeneracy we're complaining about on this board, thank you.
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>>133667670
RIGHT! So interesting question I'm hopping someone can help me answer here.

Can an Anglo with Southern European heritage practice Heathenry? Or should I stick to more southern variants (E.g. Greco-Roman).
I've heard many different opinions on this matter and am curious about what the consensus here is.
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>>133675301
Finally, there's reincarnation. Your soul (Or some portion of it) will be reborn as one of your descendents. Exactly HOW this works is murky but it's basically someone related to you. The pre-Christian Germanics were INCREDIBLY abhorred about what we would now call miscegenation, but for them it was anyone outside of their tribe. While all people are innately against miscegenation the Germanic tribes took it to a whole new level (There's records of women simply killing themselves en masse when they find out that their husbands are all dead and they have a choice between starvation and going to live with another tribe). Additionally, the pre-Christian Germanics were also noted for intentionally having large numbers of children.

This has lead some to speculate that they believed the reincarnation didn't work with descendants who weren't part of your Folk or that your soul couldn't reincarnate if you didn't have descendants for it to reincarnate into. This leads to the interesting notion of

>have lots of kids and don't fuck foreigners or your soul will get extinguished

But then that conclusion (Much like Folkvangr being a navy or colonization expedition) is one modern people have come to after examining attestations and evidence, we don't have anything explicitly saying either. For example, all we know about Folkvangr is that Freyja gets to pick half the dead, women who didn't die in combat get to go there, and that it's a big boat.
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>>133675282
I'm not an English teacher. I'm Japanese. I live in a pagan country and I can tell you that you wouldn't be happy if your country was pagan. If you whiney malcontent contrarian faggots were born here you'd be like the weirdos who say we should expel Buddhism and stop using kanji because they're not Japanese. By the way you're typing in a Semitic writing system right now. Hahaha neofagans.
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>>133675962
Buddhism is an epic cure for nihilism.
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>>133675840
All are welcome, well met friend
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>>133675301
Seems like a pretty tumultuous afterlife. But interesting.
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>>133675840
Obviously, this is a Aryan pagan thread, depends on where the majority of your ancestry comes from. Join the discord, there are tons of channels and I can point you in the right direction.
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Ok there OP I am willing to give Paganism a fair hearing. Redpill me

But be warned, I will need some really solid evidence to be sold on your religion. I am a skeptic by nature you see
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>>133675962
>Latin
>Semitic
What? Latin came from Greek. Greek isn't a Semitic writing system.

>>133675840
You could worship both. The Roman Germanics did.
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>>133675840
okay so let's just get one thing straight
what we are talking here is esotericism. all the civilizations of the past had an amount of knowledge passed down from higher sources. this knowledge manifested in diverse forms because of cultural differences. what you should do is to pick up and discern were the dots tie together and understand the bigger picture behind these beliefs
just doing ceremonies for the sake of acting is not any better than the semitic shit we have now
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>>133675962
>I'm Japanese
Post a pic of your slanty eyes with a timestamp then, rice dick.
>I live in a pagan country and I can tell you that you wouldn't be happy if your country was pagan
Looking at how I have a church housing a few dozens of niggers a few blocks away, yes, I would be.
>By the way you're typing in a Semitic writing system right now.
Are you retarded?
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>>133676112
But it's not Japanese. It comes from India. Just like the European pagan God's. Lol maybe you guys should convert to Buddhism instead.
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>>133675957
So where do you guys get this information? Is this all out of the Eddas?
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>>133669906

In Norse mythology Ginnunganap, the "Yawning Void" is the emptiness out of which all creation arose. People who eat Amanita mushrooms frequently report falling into a terrifying timeless spaceless eternal nothingness. It sounds like you had an encounter with Odin: I think the "wasted flesh" may describe your actions (or lack thereof) throughout this and other lifetimes. I would recommend working on reconnecting with your Ancestors and the Gods of your Folk and deciding how you are going to live heroically and make this world a better place and yourself a better person.
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>>133676150

>Pagan
>Kabbalah tattoo

???
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>>133676273
Greek came from Minoan. Minoan came from Phoanecian. Guess what Phoanecians were. Europa the namesake of Europe was a Phoanecian princess.
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>>133676224
read The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall
there is no individual redpill here. you just have to read many books on history.philosophy, mythology/religion/esotericism
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>>133676281
That does seem to be the educated answer.
The majority of Pagans I've actually spoken to, or people who identify as, display a love for all types of belief.

Polytheism seems to be less about Dogma, and more about loyalty to a culture and certain set. Less dogma, less supremacy, and more loyalty.
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>>133676282
Aren't the niggers pagan? Maybe you should move to Africa if you like paganism so much?
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>>133676435
Jews and pagans are allies, just ask Julian the Apostate
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>>133676224
Can you join the discord group audio call, sorry I'm doing 7 things at once.
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>>133667670
>Jewish Question
What`s there to talk about?
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>>133676632
>normies are shit
more news at 11.
>polytheism
actually what many would call gods is merely a multifaceted manifestation of the All (God) . they are like aspects of existence if you like. it's a complicated question
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>>133676834
Yeah it's pretty entry level stuff desu
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>>133676712
>Aren't the niggers pagan?
At this point they're either muslim or Christian.
>Maybe you should move to Africa if you like paganism so much?
The reason I oppose Christianity so vehemently is because its love for shitskins. Doing such a thing would be counterproductive.
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>>133675737
Right, it's going to be muslim, which just happens to happens to coincide with the decline of christianity. Europe is declining because it is faithless and hedonic, not because of christianity dumbass.
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>>133676878
> Manifestation of the all.

So you believe there is one power?
Rather than many?

Why?
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>>133676834
Gas them
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>>133676552
The Phoenicians were blue eyed Viking settlers, just like the Sumerians
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>>133677000
Oh no, one sandnigger cult is replacing another, I should care because-
?
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>>133677105
>>133677105
A cult worshiping a jew is replaced by a cult worshiping a Semite, what a tragedy!!!
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>>133677100
> Believing Varg
> Phoenicians were European.

I'm guessing the Egyptians were also European?
ANd the Romans were Nordic, I'm guessing?
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>>133676976
But jungle niggers are your pagan brothers. Your beliefs are closer to theirs than to Christianity. Don't you want to join your fellow pagans and dance around the fire and bite the heads off chickens and fuck children? Neopagans are white niggers.
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>>133677100
Never trust a man who places himself at the top of the genetic hierarchy.
He is almost always out for gain.
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>>133676351
Asatru gets most of its information from the two Edda (Poetic and Prose) and a variety of Sagas. This is combined with a handful of attestations by Greco-Roman writers and plenty of archaeology.

If you're just interested in the basics then yes, you should read some of the Poetic Edda and then the Prose Edda (In that order) after. The first book of the Poetic Edda is the Voluspa. In it, Odin speaks to a seer. He tests her powers of foresight by asking her several questions he knows the answers to already in a process that provides a hefty amount of cosmology. Then, he gets the information he wants from her: About Ragnarok.

The second poem in the Poetic Edda is the Havamal. It is wisdom from Odin (Literally "Sayings of the High One"). It talks about guest-host relations (Which reveal far more information than you'd think), some advice on women, then segues into talking about the runes along with several magic charms Odin brags about knowing.

I like the translation Sacred Texts uses. It's translated by Henry Adams Bellows. Poetry was big in the ancient days and had magical connotations. A person's voice held power. Alliterative stress based poetry fits Germanic languages (Such as English) better than other poetic schemes and Bellows keeps the alliterative properties of the Edda. It should be noted that all vowels alliterate with each other.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/

>81. Give praise to the day at evening, | to a woman on her pyre,
>To a weapon which is tried, | to a maid at wed lock,
>To ice when it is crossed, | to ale that is drunk.
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>>133677016
there was something in the beggining , an movable concept, energy you name it. that thing made the world basically. it plit in male and female parts and created the world as we know it. from it other aspects derived further. now waters get murky past this point as toi what happened next
the idea is that this thing is called the All, or God, it created everything and hence the laws of nature. the all is present in all of us but also on higher dimensions, in the form of more defined beings. hinduism is not polytheistic for example
semitic religions had in inkling of truth as they are based on egyptian/babylonian tradition, but they obfuscated things as they are mainly replicas
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>>133677397
>But jungle niggers are your pagan brothers.
They're not my brothers because they're niggers, anon. That's where all connection stops - they don't become my brothers because they breathe air or drink water either. I get to reject them with my faith, a Christian doesn't get to do that. In fact, thanks to Christianity we'll have so many of those niggers around that we're going to suffocate in shit.
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>>133677538
You seem to just be listing myths.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I've always had a more eclectic view of what is behind existence. God I hate talking this philosophical bullshit.

I see no reason why the energies of this world would come from one source, rather than competing. or cooperating.
I've always viewed 'Oneness' as a utopian theological meme.
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>>133677397
Typical neofagan: obese, covered in tattoos, dreadlocks, does drugs, hyper liberal, homosexual, listens to nigger rock "metal" music with a rhythmic structure straight from Africa.

Wow paganism is so strong!
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>>133673809
>Get to Valhalla
>Full of muzzies who died in combat screaming "ALLAHU AKBAR"
Some white religion.
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>>133677572
But they hate Christians just like you do. They worship multiple gods like you do. They believe in MAGIC like you do. They're poor hunter gatherers just like your ancestors were. They're violent warriors just like your ancestors were. Why would you be more at home living in a Christian society than living among your own kind in a society untainted by Christianity? Fuck off to Africa.
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>>133677872
Are you saying Christians can top this?
https://youtu.be/DPyOhP1GTRQ
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>>133678205
Did you miss the part about

>Non-Indo-Europeans fall through the bifrost and burn to ash as they fall

?

And no, the Muzzies can't get to Folkvangr either, they have to cross the bifrost to get to Folkvangr too.
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>>133677397
>your european folk religion is similar to an african folk religion because they are both folk religions
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>>133678325
Nice jungle beat. >>133678325
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>>133678334
I've got English and Italian ancestry.
Would I be able to earn my way into your Valhalla?
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>>133676611
>Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall

fair enough, thanks for the lead
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>>133678277
>But they hate Christians just like you do.
I doubt they hate Christians because Christians relocate white resources into their nigger pockets or open the gates for them, anon.
>hey worship multiple gods like you do. They believe in MAGIC like you do. They're poor hunter gatherers just like your ancestors were. They're violent warriors just like your ancestors were.
Matters to me as little as them breathing air or drinking water, anon. We already went over this.
>Why would you be more at home living in a Christian society than living among your own kind in a society untainted by Christianity?
My own kind is European. I'm taking care of the Christian part.
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>>133677811
even in pagam myths the gods are born from a male and female promordial gods. for example in greek mythology all gods are the offspring of Uranus ( I think) (sky, male concept) and Gaia ( I think) (earth, female concept)
and Uranus and Gaia appeared from the chaos , the All ;)
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>>133678530
Short answer: Yes, if you die in battle.
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>>133677105
this
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>>133678375
They are similar. The main difference is aesthetic. They have more in common with each other than with Christianity. Enjoy your regression toward niggerdom.
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>>133678626
You've not refuted my point?
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>>133678334
>Albanians
>Iranians
>British teen converts fighting for Islam
All Indo-European, all muzzies. You're fucking stupid.
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>>133678737
Angry hapa is angry.
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>>133667670
repent or face the fires of hell for eternity.
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>>133678775
I pointed out that even in paganism all gods originate from one source. I had the assumption that you are pagan
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>>133678375
They're more than similar to other pagan myths, they're derivative of. Often derivative of semitic. For example adonis.

The Greek Ἄδωνις (Greek pronunciation: [ádɔːnis]), Adōnis was a borrowing from the Canaanite word ʼadōn, meaning "lord",which is related to Adonai (Hebrew: אֲדֹנָי), one of the titles used to refer to the God of the Hebrew Bible and still used in Judaism to the present day. Syrian Adonis is Gauas[6] or Aos, akin to Egyptian Osiris, the Semitic Tammuz and Baal Hadad, the Etruscan Atunis and the Phrygian Attis, all of whom are deities of rebirth and vegetation (see life-death-rebirth deity).
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>>133678651
Maybe someday we will have a society in which men do not need to be tempted into Glory.

But we do not live in that world.
Felt good to have a Nord tell me as someone who is part Med that I'm not going to eternal damnation.

I suppose we'll see what happens.
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>>133678737
You're not familiar with African folk religion then.
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>>133678988
the SS incorporated esoteric elements and was antipathetic to christianity. check mate
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>>133667670

/pol/ is a board of Kek and Christ, fuck off with your teenage angst you must be 18 or older to post here kiddo
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>>133678797
And I'm sure they'd realize the error of their ways when they get to Valhalla and get to hang out with Thor and Odin and not Allah.

Enjoy the niggers and Jews in heaven though, I'm sure you'll get along just fine rapping praise to Yahweh for the rest of eternity.

>>133678988
Ah, thank you, I've been meaning to find a copy of this. It's a nice biting retort against TempLARPers who think we can magically return to some utopian point in the past. Short answer: We can't. This is something Asatru posits: Rebuilding is just as much about making something new as it is looking to the past for inspiration. We can never return to the past, but we can make the future good.
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>>133679004
My general view on spirituality is very much eclectic. Gods are representative of things behind the earthly mask.

I'm still getting through things though! I've tried to head to /x/ but they're all elitist assholes if you try and learn anything magically inclined, even in regards to psychology and the placebo-effect as a type of magic, in the most retarded sense xD
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>>133679218
how do you even reconcile those two concepts toghether ( kek and Christ) is beyond me
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>>133679247
Nobody talks like this on pol. Go back to your academy
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>>133679247
I was talking about this earlier in regards to Hitler's view on the Slavs, and how our view on Europeanism has changed.

Back then, the difference between a Slav and a German would've been larger, due to living in a less globalised world. Nowadays we see the similarities, and such.

Red and Orange look very different when placed just next to each other, but when you see them alongside the rest of the color spectrum, you see how similar they are.
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>>133679380
Discord is used by shills to collect IPs NEVER go on discord from 4chan they will know where you are
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>>133678544
>I doubt they hate Christians because Christians relocate white resources into their nigger pockets or open the gates for them, anon.
Christians are routinely killed there you idiot.

>Matters to me as little as them breathing air or drinking water, anon. We already went over this.
It's more like eating shit. You both eat shit. I'm telling you that's a bad idea. Niggers do that. And you're eating shit just to spite Jesus. Okay. Carry on.

>My own kind is European.
No they aren't. You're a nigger. Thinking like a nigger makes you a nigger. Europeans are Christian.

>I'm taking care of the Christian part.
No you aren't. Paganism got destroyed for a reason. You'll always be edgy fringe weirdos. This triumphalism is just pathetic. Seriously take a look at how you've decided to live your life.
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>>133679302
/x/ is shit. still sometimes you can find great things there. from time to time you might stumble on good things here on /pol/ too, maybe now with a pagan general more so if the semites stop trashing it. anyway it's just a matter of ....lurking more
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>>133678988
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Yeah obviously, fuck off.
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>>133672320
Latinx spotted
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>>133679126
>Dude you don't understand I've undertaken extensive studies of African folk religion I swear I'm not a cuck

Ok
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>>133679608
What is the point in attaining infinite knowledge, and improving the lives of those around you by understanding the psychological fundamental principles that outline human belief, if every time you ask about it, you're called a sheep xD

Fucking X man, I hear you.
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>>133679620
just an old meme hitler's quotes about Paganism are verifed bc it comes from Mein Kampf, and if he didn't mean it then he is a liar. Which is despicable
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>>133667670
>You will never get to meet Huldra and fall in love and marry her
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>>133679247
As if I'm a Christian. Your faith is weak and doesn't fit into the modern world. Your nationalism is an illusion that your religion doesn't back up.
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>>133679051
Good thing I worship the only true white goddess, Columbia.
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>>133672729
shitposting here isn't gonna make your island better Jorge
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>>133673208
Not even remotely true but go ahead be a moron.
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>>133679247
Heaven is non-local dipshit. It's not going to have a ruleset according to newtonian physics. You are not going to have an avatar with the same ruleset as this reality frame. It's eternal. Biological trappings such as lifespan an race are part of the ruleset of this reality frame only.
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>>133679972
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>>133679559
>Christians are routinely killed there you idiot.
And since I'm not routinely killing Christians, you saying that they hate Christians "just like me" is even double wrong.
>It's more like eating shit. You both eat shit.
That too is wrong, I've never eaten shit.
>And you're eating shit just to spite Jesus.
Read Mark 7:18-23 and then explain why your rabbi would even care.
>You're a nigger. Thinking like a nigger makes you a nigger.
That's not how it works, sorry. Nigger is a derogatory term for black people, and i'm not black.
>Europeans are Christian.
That too is wrong, since everyone can be a Christian.
>No you aren't.
Anon, it's either communism or islam really soon and both aren't that fond of Christians. Both aren't my preferred way of dealing with this, but as you say, paganism is dead and I have to be pragmatic.
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>>133679760
Coming from the Jap concerning himself with European faiths?
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>>133679900
Spamming the same memes over and over again
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>yes goy, the germanics lived in shitty mud huts
>forget the fact they discovered America, Greenland and Iceland and had the best ships pre renaissance
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>>133680015
Even niggers can build barns achmed
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>>133679559
You don't understand. Whites should always do the opposite of what niggers do, that's how we'll win
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>>133679972
>LE MUD HUTS
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>>133680122
NOTALLGODS
>>133680135
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>>133680164
>Even niggers can build barns achmed
cool, post one
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>>133680218
see this>>133679831
and this
>>133679415

and this
>>133679253

You're goingto have to thank the Catholics for preserving those buildings

>>133680212
ANYBODY can build this
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>>133680259
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>>133675962
Please, private John Smith
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>>133679972
What's wrong with the second picture? Would rather live there.
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>>133679218
>Christ
>renegade Jew
>/pol/ is a board of Jew worshippers
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>>133680383
that's mostly bullshit but I don't have time to debunk them. normies are shit, you don't need to do any ceremonies, it's all mental, focus, meditation. normies just ruin shit like always. plus nobody said priests back than weren't crooks just like now
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>>133680420
But did the buildings last? No see this is my point right there.
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>>133677397
Pro-tip: There are more african christians than white christians (Actual practicing christians).

Who are one of the the strongest proponents for taking in migrants and refugees? Churches and christians everywhere.
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>>133680555
Impressive get but youll have to back that up with cations

like these
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>>133680212
cozy af
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>>133680383
>yes lets just all build massive stone buildings in Germania and then freeze to death due to the lack of insulation
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In your opinion, whomst was the most masculine god?
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>>133676717
>>133676150
Are you mentally ill? What a fucking shit argument.
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>meanwhile
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>>133680688
well m8 i hope you enjoy having your christcuck threads ruined.
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>>133679218
Hi kekistanian salutations to you my 'pede!
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>>133669419
>number of year then you are reincarnated as one of you descendants.

how does that work?
what if you have no descendants?

there are more people alive now than ever, where did those extra souls come from?
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you're fucking retarded. you didn't even bother to read what I said.
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>>133680704
I know
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>>133681196
>there are more people alive now than ever, where did those extra souls come from?
They didn't, that's why you have so many normies. They're programmed that mimic social behavior, so when you have the very few real people act like shit you get what we have now.
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>>133679253
>>133679415
I never got this whole "hurr durr Pagans killed people for religion" angle. The Romans, initially, used "human sacrifice" in the same way we would use "the death penalty". If you read the Laws of Numa, you'll see that every approved usage of human sacrifice is just a way of telling some god "Hey, this guy fucked up, we're killing him as punishment". It's no different than the Medieval practice of hanging someone "in the name of God". Ritual execution is not human sacrifice.

Hell, part of the Greco-Roman concept of civilization vs barbarism is that at one point in their history human sacrifice STOPPED being a formality around the death penalty and was indeed used as one might sacrifice cattle; and then all righteous Romans/Greeks got together and put an end to that shit. When Hannibal was about to invade Rome a handful of Romans got together and sacrificed four slaves. The rest of Rome threw a fucking fit about this as every good Roman knew the gods abhorred human sacrifice.

>>133681451
>>133681196
Or they're just the souls of non-Whites reincarnating into more non-Whites.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/medieval/laws_of_thekings.asp

>>133680854
Freyr is the god of male fertility. On the other hand, Tyr is the epitome of a father.
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>>133680854
Clearly Lord Sri Krishna.
>Kills many demons in battle ever since he was a child
>Fucks a bunch of hot chicks in the woods all at the same time
>Protects the honor of his friends' wife by generating infinite clothing honor as another man tries to rape her, thereby cucking all of them out of his pure love
>Is the entirety of the universe in one
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>>133680090
>they hate Christians
You have common cause.

>I've never eaten shit.
You swallowed paganism.

>explain why your rabbi would even care.
The shit is coming out of your mouth now.

>That's not how it works, sorry.
It's exactly how it works. Christianity made white people civilized. Before that you were savages, even the Romans. Civilization is what we're talking about. The white race is a civilized race, much like my own. Christianity is the basis of your civilization. If you aren't Christian then you aren't white. You're just a nigger with pale skin.

>That too is wrong, since everyone can be a Christian.
Has it ever occurred to you that whiteness is more than biology, that it's spiritual? Isn't that what your whole neofagan ethnoreligion shtick is about? Well, you have the wrong spirit.

>Anon, it's either communism or islam really soon and both aren't that fond of Christians. Both aren't my preferred way of dealing with this, but as you say, paganism is dead and I have to be pragmatic.
Christianity will always persist even in a Muslim or Marxist society. Muslims are mandated to kill fagans and gaytheists. Communism is dead, almost as dead as paganism. Europe is going to experience a social collapse soon and the survivors will return to Christianity.
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>>133680383
> Preserving

It's a miracle some of them are even standing
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>>133680110
I'm a westaboo but I acknowledge how far your civilization has fallen.
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>>133680875
Piss off you bigoted Christian. Jews are natural pagan allies in the fight against Christianity

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/julian-the-apostate-x00b0
>Julian's attitude toward the Jews was generally defined by the needs of his polemic against the Christians. Just before Julian embarked on his Persian campaign he promised to abolish the anti-Jewish laws and to rebuild the Temple where he would join the Jews in worship ... He arranged for money and building materials to be provided, appointing Alypius of Antioch, but after several attempts to build on the site he was discouraged by a fire which broke out in the ruins there. The Church Fathers embellished the story in various ways adding that the Jews received Julian's proposal enthusiastically, coming in thousands to the Temple Mount with stones in their hands, but when the first stones were laid the Jews were threatened by earthquakes and hurricanes, and finally driven off by a heavenly fire and specter of Christ ... Two important facts may be gathered from these sources: (1) Julian wished to rebuild the Temple to strengthen paganism against Christianity (he saw Judaism and paganism as having sacrificial rites in common); (2) he wished to refute Jesus' prophecy concerning the Temple
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>>133681817
fuck off and stop false flagging the pagan thread. Also why don't you come join in on the ?christ/chan thread.
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>>133680662
Christians aren't in power. Jews are. Honestly importing masses of Muslims seems like a good way to destroy secularist liberal societies so one way or another things will improve in the long run.
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>>133681619
>You have common cause.
I'm not even going to bother with the rest until you retract your false statement that they hate Christians "just like I do".
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>>133681196
>how does that work?
Well, an estimated 100 billion people have lived and their how many souls there are is unknown. If you have no descendants you might be stuck in the after life you have landed yourself in. This is the best answer I can give you because I not exactly sure about this. Join the discord and if I find out I'll definitely post about it.
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>>133682265
I'm fine with that.
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>>133669178
They were reincarnated in their children, living the same way their ancestors did.
Or, they knew "Yahweh" which isn't actually the name of God.
>muh Jewish religion
If a Jew adopts Germanic paganism because he thinks Thor is riding in the Thunder that doesn't make Thor a Jewish deity.
Your interpretation of religion is Marxist, religion is much deeper than belief.
The Pagans knew God, the divine, but when they mixed they mixed their individual conceptions of him, thus the many gods in a Pantheon, but they never disavowed the single All-Father creator God, that was never corrupted, so long as such men made sacrifices and lifted their hands as their ancestors did in the name of the true ritual and of the true god, they were saved.
>that sounds pretty fucked
That's a very Christian morality you are toting there.
The Pagans didn't believe life was fair, it was cold, short, miserable, and painful. Kinship was their answer. If you die and suffer forever as a pagan, your pagan brother may mourn you, but they would not have disavowed your fate.
Stop LARPing, you are literally LARPing because you aren't even practicing paganism as your ancestors did.
Paganism didn't vanish overnight, neither will Christianity.
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I don't understand the muh ancient ruins argument, there was simply no socio-economical reason for nordic societies to build giant stone structures. Stone structures are slower to build than wooden, they are more expensive, require more people, poor insulation for cold climate.
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>>133681482
her father must be happy.
f disgrace
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>>133680905
Those numbers: Strong doubt

But cool anyway, better idols than the crusaders.
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>>133681482
> There are no pics of people with crosses acting slutty
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>>133683133
Its like they think that there are more pagans who do that sort of shit.
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>>133667670
Why were the pagans so unhappy with their pagan lives?
Why does no one ever read any pagan literature?
Anything written past 1500A.D. is not Pagan, it is not even close, that's also a generous date.
Varg is not a pagan, he's an atheist and non-religious, he said so himself that paganism is a culture and not a religion.
Pagans did not believe in archetypes or afterlives, the few "afterlives" that existed were reserved for the few and far between.
Why does no one here practice real paganism? Why does no one here understand what paganism was?
It was not about the ancestors, they loved their ancestors as inspiration, not as gods.
They did not think they were their ancestors beyond the level of bloodline, no meta spirit reincarnation.
You are too solemn, too Catholic in your paganism.
Where is the revelry? The Drinking? The warring? The trials? The Rituals (not the four times a year but the every other day stuff)?
What happened to all the pagans?
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As Pagans, what do you think about or how does Christianity relate to you?

Both short, succinct and longer in depth answers welcome.

Personally, Im just curious.
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>>133681567
this guy explains it
>>133408089
>>133410197
Wrong the latin and greek words for Human sacrifice are different and uniquely mean only that, AS SHOWN WITH TGREEK ABOVE.It is a different word that "penalty" or "justice" or "punishment" or retirbution" it precisely means SACRIFICE

>NOT READING THE ACTUAL SCREENCAP
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>>133683609
When did Varg say it was a culture and not a religion? Maybe I just missed that one, but in his About Paganism video he talked about his belief in a form of reincarnation, which suggests that he does believe it is a religion.
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Do you agree with varg?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQpkDVm9Cas
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>>133688690
>MUH KARAN
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>>133667670
>sees pic
>WE WUZ HELLENIC N' SHIET
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>>133688690
yes
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>>133691173
You were though.
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Pagan is synonymous with faggot.
They have no morals and will accept any new pleasure that comes down the pike. The gods of the gentiles are devils.
There is only One God, and He was revealed to us by His Only Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Europe was built under the worship of the True God. As Europe abandons God, it slumps ever lower into the sh*tpile from which it originated. Go ahead and praise white people while you abandon your maker. Without God you are nothing.
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>>133691261
Not OP.
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>>133691301
>Pagan is synonymous with faggot.
Wrong faggots got BOGGED
>They have no morals and will accept any new pleasure that comes down the pike. The gods of the gentiles are devils.
Wrong it's about family and spirituality
see >>133675301 for punishments against traitors and oath-breakers something Christianity has nothing for.
>There is only One God, and He was revealed to us by His Only Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Wrong
>Europe was built under the worship of the True God. As Europe abandons God, it slumps ever lower into the sh*tpile from which it originated.
Wrong Europe was built under the late Roman republic/Early Empire and the Ancient Greeks. In fact Europe only got strong again once it abandoned the Church dogma and stepped into the enlightened and Renaissance which was all about rediscovering the ancient Greeks and Romans particularly their scientific methods.
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>>133691301
You don't understand. All the good things that ever happened were done by secret pagans, or people who didn't know they were pagan. All the bad things that ever happened were done by Christians. The "Christians" who did good things were actually secret pagans, or didn't know they were pagan
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>>133691796
>unironically posting Varg
Just end your life, painfully if possible.
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>>133691977
Praise my racemixed Costa rican brother. We must embrace our African brothers and bring them here for the meek shall inherit the Earth. We cannot allow our greed and petty nationalism and racism to get in the way of giving all Christians a well life and rich people don't go to heaven. Remember all are equal under the lord.

Pic related out christian brethren across the world
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>>133691731
This man knows. See, during the Renaissance they were all pagan, or secretly pagan, that's why the Church hated art, science, and music. Basically the real Christians wanted to go back to the Dark Ages because they hated their pagan ancestors, but luckily for us all the secret pagans pulled through
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>>133692372
Your a really bad false flagger, you've got to do it more like my post above yours ro really get the point though.

>Christians are this butthurt about pagans they'll go into a pagan thread and shitpost and falseflag
kek what a pathetic ideology, you guys honestly see paganism as a threat. So much for Christianity being super strong
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>>133667670
Yo guys, what kind of paganism should I follow as a Hungarian?
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>>133692855
Fuck it man, let's all be Odinists. Odin is badass and powerful and slaughters all Muslims
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>>133692855
No one, you should remain loyal to the Austro Hungarian empire.
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>>133687658
>When did Varg say it was a culture and not a religion?
His blog.
>reincarnation makes it a religion
no it doesn't.
Reincarnation isn't necessarily a religious concept. Varg even states that it is a scientific concept.
Do you even know what the definition of religion is? Assuming you do (you are a modern and I know you already) then you are still wrong because if Varg is correct (presuming you agree with him) then such is no more a religion than an affirmation of Newtonian mechanics is.
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>>133693106
Odyn is cool and all, but I also like Tyr and Ilmatar a lot.
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>>133692372
Super chart you have there.
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>>133692685
I wasn't even trying to false flag, at some point you pagan fags fell for my memes so I just rolled with it

>you see us as a threat
Yeah no. Your buddies are far worse at falseflagging, I'm just shitposting in retaliation because genuine discussion has gone to shit on this board
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>>133692348
>jewing this hard
We Goyim will not fight eachother, Rabbi.
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>>133692855
Perhaps one of the old Slavic/Finnic-Ugo ones. Maybe even a bit of Tengri depending on how much you actually got HUNNED and KHANNED. I don't know much about Eastern Europe's religions, but I'm sure there's some local sort of Pagan gods that were around the area.

You guys got some nice looking traditional clothing and customs.
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>>133693469
>I wasn't even trying to false flag
Hmmm see
>>133676150
>>133676717
>>133681817

>Yeah no. Your buddies are far worse at falseflagging, I'm just shitposting in retaliation because genuine discussion has gone to shit on this board
I was only pretending to falseflag. I was shitposting honestly And I was shitposting because there's too many shitposts.
>This is your logic

Yeah no your worried your religion is dying out and you freak out at the thought that someone on 4chan made a thread you had to fight the good fight

Dumb Americuck. Your kids are under 50% white enjoy your BASED Hispanic Christians I guess
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>>133692855
Slavic
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>>133693906
Look at my early posts tardo

>Christianity is dying meme
Yeah I don't even care if it was, but it's growing in places like China. Paganism on the other hand is already dead, any kind of reconstruction is just pure LARP
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>>133694552
>Yeah I don't even care if it was, but it's growing in places like China
Based non whites YES
Hispanic Christians and Asian Christians can come to America. BASED NON WHITE Christians. I LOVE AFRICA NOW

Once again enjoy your Christian Mexicans. I'm sure Carlos won't mind America when he can control the election
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>>133691796
i guess thats one way of looking at it
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>>133694552
>it's growing in places like China
just fuck off.
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>>133694811
I don't support immigration any more than you do

Christians and Muslims should both argue against it as well, but they're being manipulated. It's easy to say the problem is on a religious level but I think it's something else altogether
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>>133695681
>Christians and Muslims
They are both fine with importing different races it doesn't matter they are both very globalist.
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>tfw American
>tfw Germanic ancestors
>tfw feels like larping when I get into paganism
>tfw can't be a christian because the bible feels way to damn jewish everytime I read it

What do bros?
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>>133695681
Wrong the Church near me recently brought in some African priests and hangs a big refugees welcome banner up. Doesn't help the local church also raped a bunch of kids in the 90's here
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>>133695854
Just get into paganism. If 800ad Vikings were in the middle of ancient Texas they would still be Pagan. People only joke about the American muh heritages either because your 1/16th German or you use it as a reason to go get drunk once a year on paddys day
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>>133695854
>feels like larping

And that's a bad thing how?
You are actually acting out the traditions of your ancestors and you are doing it live. If you feel shame for it, you are weak vermin.
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>>133695751
>>133696239
They're universalist, not globalist. If you look at the history of Christiandom you would expect the Christians coming to the West to be told to stay put - to bear their cross, even if it meant death, that a matyrs' death is preferable than a sinners death in some degenerate shithole like the US. What's telling is that they are told this by African clergy, even clergy in the Middle East, but for some reason you don't hear this in the West
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>>133696239
>abos are bad at the white man's religion
who could've guessed?
>>133695751
>both very globalist
Firstly, Arabs dominating the world isn't "globalist". It's Islamist.
Secondly, Christianity seeking unity between mankind isn't globalist, it's upholding a common pursuit of peace as an ideal.
The whole narrative of Christianity being pro-Globalist falls apart. In fact there's an entire book of the Bible dedicated to ripping on Globalism as it is seen as the literal dominion of Evil.
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>>133667670
friendly reminder that this is your average pagan larper
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>>133697056
Saved
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>>133683609
>le atheism meme

Read the FAQ.
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>>133696414
>Just get into paganism. If 800ad Vikings were in the middle of ancient Texas they would still be Pagan
Yeah you're right. I guess it's like the Norwegian settlers in Iceland. They didn't stop being pagans because of a new land.
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>>133697011
>world isn't "globalist". It's Islamist.
Call it whatever you want its still globalist no separate countries only Islam.

>The whole narrative of Christianity being pro-Globalist falls apart. In fact there's an entire book of the Bible dedicated to ripping on Globalism as it is seen as the literal dominion of Evil.
No idea what bible you are reading but there are multiple scriptures talking about how there are no races and we are as one and will be one with god. Sorry m8.
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>>133697056
>kekistan
That shit is literally christian larping.
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>>133697056
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>>133696414
>they would still be Pagan
But if they were in their ancient homeland they would be converting to become Christian. Or supporting Christian kings like Charlemagne as Holger Dansk did.

>German
Germans don't exist. There is no difference between an ethnic German and an ethnic Frenchman genetically speaking. Yet Germans identify with Scandinavians and the Dutch, why?
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>>133697158
>No idea what bible you are reading but there are multiple scriptures talking about how there are no races and we are as one and will be one with god.

Which do you mean? Galatians I assume?
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>>133697312
>Germans don't exist
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>>133697158
>No idea what bible you are reading but there are multiple scriptures talking about how there are no races and we are as one and will be one with god. Sorry m8.
It's apparent you've never read the Bible.
Never once does the Bible state race doesn't exist. Jew and Gentile is not a racial category, it's a spiritual one. Scythian, Greek, Roman, Slave, Freeman, and Jew are not racial categories they are again spiritual and ethnic ones.
Stop memeing. There's a reason paganism relies solely upon feeling, there is no serious intellectual defense of paganism, it is easier to cut down than Christianity in the arena of ideas.
Maybe if you read the Bible and read pagan literature, firstly you wouldn't be a pagan, secondly you would be better equipped to critique Christianity and propagate/defend paganism.
>still globalist no separate countries only islam
But there are separate countries you fucking retard.
They just share the same religion.
Might as well say paganism is globalism because there are no separate countries, only paganism. but you wouldn't say that because it's incoherent.
My god, you are fucking stupid.
Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Arabia, Turkey, Palestine, Yemen, Libya, all exist despite being united by Islam, even the countries which are in doctrine the exact same (no Sunni/Shia difference,) still maintain independent sovereignty.
Why don't you define "globalist" for me?
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>>133697011
>who could've guessed?
Abo's aren't christian

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/opinion/australias-immoral-preference-for-christian-refugees.html
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/angela-shanahan/australia-should-take-in-more-middle-eastern-christian-refugees/news-story/498e0ae0a7f8afe97ac52da8d9760ad0

yes good goy take more Christian refugees
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>>133697475
That reading comprehension.
We were discussing Germans as a sub race within Europe. But there is no German people in any racial sense. They are indistinguishable genetically from other historically Celtic/Gallic nations. Yet Germans seek Germanic paganism. Germanic =/ German
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>>133697056
Kill it with fire like the other heathens.
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>>133697916
Archived it
>https://nytimes com/2017/05/03/opinion/australias-immoral-preference-for-christian-refugees.html
https://archive.is/psgda
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>>133697796
>there is no serious intellectual defense of paganism

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/julian_apostate_galileans_1_text.htm
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>>133697916
take in more pagan refugees. African Voodoo is paganism.
>inb4 only European pagans
if you can say that then a Christian could say only European Christians.
>inb4 kikes larping as Christians are the spokespersons of Christianity
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>>133697941
>>133697941
>They are indistinguishable genetically from other historically Celtic/Gallic nations
You're honestly retarded.
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>>133698007
>critiquing Christianity is a defense of paganism
yeah, your movement is dead. You can't base a movement off of a negative basis (attacking Christianity). It has to have some serious positive aspect (Paganism is legitimate because...[this answer can't revolving around not being Christian]).
You're not a pagan.
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>>133698094
>I have never seen any genetic study
>I unironically believe the Nazi propaganda that all Germans are 6'5" Aryan demi-gods
please kill yourself retard. Even the Nazis distanced themselves from Nordicism because the vast majority of the Germans were racially Alpine.
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>>133698233
>You can't base a movement off of a negative basis (attacking Christianity)
When you're done memeing in this thread, give that a read. It goes into defense of paganism my dude.
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>>133698394
>It goes into defense of paganism my dude.
>"I feel my ancestors, man"
That's not a defense of paganism
>"le ebin viking aesthetic"
not a defense of paganism
I am in search of truth, apparently no one here has any or they are unable to reveal it.
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>>133698340
>alpine
>using terms geneticists haven't used since 1910
>only racial studies he's ever seen are pictures in /pol/ memes from studies from the turn of the century
lmao
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>>133698484
I posted that 3 minutes ago and you already made a retarded reply. You probably didn't even read 2 sentences of if you fucking mongoloid.
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>>133698531
>>alpine
>>using terms geneticists haven't used since 1910
>>only racial studies he's ever seen are pictures in /pol/ memes from studies from the turn of the century
>lmao

>>https://www.ancestry.com/dna/ethnicity/europe-west
Knock yourself out, dumbass.
>>133698582
I read through the thread already. I didn't jump and scroll to the bottom.
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>>133697796
>>133697312
John 4:31 – In the meantime His talmidim (“students, disciples”) urged Him, saying, “Rabbi, eat.”
John 3:1-2 – This man came to Yeshua (“Jesus”) by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”
John 6:25 – And when they found Him on the other side of the lake, they said to Him, “Rabbi, when did You come here?”
John 4:9 – Then the woman of Samaria said to Him, “How is it that You, being a Jew, ask a drink from me, a Samaritan woman?”…
>Matthew 10:23
“When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.”
>Luke 9:27
“Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.”
When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Leviticus 19:33-34)
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>>133697312
>>133697796
He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt. (Deuteronomy 10:18-19)

When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. (Leviticus 19:9-10)

Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 23:9)

By the time of the New Testament, Israel had become extremely exclusive, largely forgetting her mission to the nations. When the Messiah arrived, however, foreigners were present ( Matt 2:1-12 ). During his ministry, he constantly interacted with them, indicating that God’s love embraced the world ( Luke 17:18 ; John 4 ). A Roman soldier pronounced a eulogy at his death ( Luke 23:47 ). Death broke the hostile powers that caused human divisions ( Eph 2:14-18 ). In Christ there was no longer any important racial, linguistic, or ethnic difference ( Gal 3:26-29 ). Pentecost ( Acts 2 ) reversed the judgment of the tower of Babel ( Gen 11:1-9 ).

And you shall not persecute an alien, and you shall not oppress him, because you were aliens in the land of Egypt. And you shall not oppress an alien — since you know the alien’s soul, because you were aliens in the land of Egypt. You shall not persecute him. The alien who resides with you shall be to you like a citizen of yours, and you shall love him as yourself, because you were aliens in the land of Egypt. You shall not bend judgment of an alien … You shall remember that you were a slave in Egypt, and YHWH, your God, redeemed you from there. On account of this I command you to do this thing.
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>>133697312
At the same time, there was the realization that while members of the church had their citizenship in heaven, they were resident aliens on earth ( 1 Peter 1:17 ; 2:11 ). Before the coming of the kingdom, they had to live a nomadic existence as strangers and pilgrims, much like the patriarchs of the Old Testament ( Heb 11:9-16 ). They must live in hope and faith, praying for the invasion of the kingdom and waiting patiently for the gift of a new Canaan, a new Eden, where they can reside with their God (Rev. 21-22). Meanwhile the church must act by helping literal strangers and foreigners, remembering her own identity and God’s love for the powerless ( Matthew 25:35Matthew 25:38Matthew 25:43Matthew 25:44 ). Hospitality (philoxenos, lit. love for the stranger) is to be a characteristic of the follower of Christ ( 1 Peter 4:9 ; cf. Rom 12:13 ; Heb 13:2 ).
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>>133698058
>inb4 only European pagans
yeah exactly. Whites only no refugees. Something the churches here in Australia are strongly against. or at the very least are pro christian refugees.
>inb4 kikes larping as Christians are the spokespersons of Christianity
Everyone but my specific brand of Christianity which lets fellow Christians die in a civil war is not Christianity. Whenever you want to believe ir not Christianity is the Pope and the pope is a south American neo communist who kisses refugees feet.


The Palm Sunday rally and march in Canberra in support of asylum seekers and refugees made me reflect on the place of Christians in Australian society. It was a colourful occasion resplendent with many banners advertising the presence of groups, unions and political parties.

http://www.baka.com.au/comment/australias-christians-form-a-broader-political-church-that-most-realise-20170419-gvnoac.html
>Among those that caught my eye especially were the Christian banners representing Baptists, the Uniting Church, Quakers and others, as well as several Catholic and Anglican parishes. It made me wonder how many Christians were among the crowd.

http://www.acrt.com.au/
http://www.acrt.com.au/about-us/members/
>Australian churches refugee task force

http://www.accimissions.org.au/blog0041
Syrian Refugee Crisis: How to Help as a Church in Australia
Christians have the opportunity to receive people in the way Jesus would. Churches can provide practical assistance to refugees by welcoming and involving those whom God brings into our midst. This can be achieved by finding and using existing networks in your local community, or starting to build them. In fact, many churches have former refugees or refugee workers in their congregations, who will be able to provide suggestions and help lead local responses.

http://www.lca.org.au/churches-offer-sanctuary-to-refugees/

#Not real communism
#not real Christianity
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>>133697312
Another use of ’ahav may clarify its meaning in Lev 19. Various biblical texts, especially in Deuteronomy, command the Israelites to “love” (’ahav) God. The most famous of these is Deut 6:5, the second verse of the Shema prayer: “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.” Context suggests that this verse is commanding (primarily) not a mental or emotional attitude but obedience to God, acting in a way that reflects love for the divine. It is likely that the same is true for Lev 19:18 and Lev 19:34—they insist that the Israelite and foreigner be treated properly.


Also there are countless christian popes and many sects that do not believe what you say. Even if you were to not take any of that the entire idea of missionary work is wrong and it is essential to Christianity to do that work as the death cult says that after every women and child on the planet knows about Christianity then Jesus will return.
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>>133698810
>In Christ there was no longer any important racial, linguistic, or ethnic difference
Exactly, in Christ. Nowhere in the Bible does it deny the existence of race, it says it does not bar you from grace. There's literally nothing wrong with Christ being accessible to all men regardless of factors beyond their immediate self.

>look after foreigners
Odin says the same in Havamal.
Why the hell do you have a problem with hospitality? That's a very non-European trait. Altruism is the mark of the white man.
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>>133699257
>Bible does it deny the existence of race
It denies that it matters and we should all be ONE. What I also don't really understand is that Jesus was a literal jew and that alone should make you question the entire thing.

>Odin says the same in Havamal.
Different meaning to that of Christianity I posted other scriptures as well no where does it say that you should allow them to be treated like a citizen among other things.
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>>133699052
>Whites only no refugees. Something the churches here in Australia are strongly against. or at the very least are pro christian refugees.
My point exactly. Your mistaking Jewish subversion for the face of Christianity.
>my specific brand of Christianity
Christianity was not conceived as a religion but a relationship.
>Whether you want to believe it or not I am defining this concept for you and I wont change my mind
then your're fucking retarded
>made me reflect on Christians in Australian society
Yes, and the Wiccans who run the whodo voodoo shop on the corner having a "refugees welcome" sign makes me question the ENTIRETY of paganism
>inb4 not my pagans
If you can arbitrarily define Christianity I can arbitrarily define paganism.
>implying Christianity is Communistic
n-no thanks, Rabbi.
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>tfw paganism's leader is a racialist white man
>tfw Christianity's leader is a cuckold who licks nigger feet

lmao
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>>133699228
>Also there are countless christian popes and many sects that do not believe what you say
you think I care what they think? They are literally not the center of Christianity. They are the center of the Church, not Christianity's fault if it's stewards by virtue of being cuckolds act like cuckolds.
>death cult
>in a thread dedicated to a god that actively seeks for you to die
Odin's favor isn't life, it's victory and death. He needs an army, he gets second pick, you can put two and two together.
>the idea of missionary work is wrong
Why?
>>133699412
>It denies that it matters and we should all be ONE
No it doesn't. Where does it say it doesn't matter? Where does it say we should all be one racially speaking?
It is saying race does not matter for SALVATION. we should be one IN CHRIST.
It is saying men should strive for peace on the common ground of Christianity, there is nothing wrong with that, not even the ancient pagans disputed that.
>different meaning
not really, it's the exact same, hospitality is a good thing.
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>>133699558
>My point exactly. Your mistaking Jewish subversion for the face of Christianity.
And where does the church say white refugees are fine but arab ones are not? Where does Jesus say fuck niggers don't let them in even if they follow my words and their starving to death
>Christianity was not conceived as a religion but a relationship.
And that has evolved into the cucklick church.
>then your're fucking retarded
Nice arguement
>Yes, and the Wiccans who run the whodo voodoo shop on the corner having a "refugees welcome" sign makes me question the ENTIRETY of paganism
Voodoo niggers and wiccans number a few thousand in Australia. These churches number in the millions of followers who tell them to vote pro refugee. Big fucking difference kiddo
>If you can arbitrarily define Christianity I can arbitrarily define paganism.
Paganism is based on land and tribe rather then arbitrarily allowing God into yourself. Christianity has nothing to do with race or land
>n-no thanks, Rabbi.
I-It isn't real Christianity because I say so. These billions of Christians from all over the globe from sub Sarah Africa to south America are all wrong. My specific brand is correct. Every other type of Mormon or Protestant are all wrong
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>>133699697
>white man
>part irish
You know he supports Christianity, his Christian brothers and his Christian ancestors.
He's not a fucking cancerous autist looking for snowflake status via paganism.
>Christianity's leader
the pope isn't the leader of Christianity
The Church =/ Christianity.
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>>133678325
it's don't murder you retard
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>>133700034
>And where does the church say white refugees are fine but arab ones are not?
It actually doesn't say anything about them. Take them or reject them. National/racial policy is entirely left out since Christianity isn't a political system.
>fuck niggers
He says you don't work you don't eat. This doesn't mean you aren't generous or that you can't give, it means you aren't exercising unrestrained virtue.
>evolved into
But, it didn't. It stayed the same. You don't have to be Catholic to have a relationship with Christ.
>nice argument
He says as he hurls non-sequitur indisputables
>there are less pagans
The point wasn't the number of people, it was that you shouldn't commit the generalization fallacy nor the categorical fallacy. The Church =/ Christianity.
>paganism is based on land and tribe
according to who? You? The ancient pagans certainly didn't say so, or at least they didn't see fit to write it down.
>Christianity has nothing to do with race or land
it is entirely unique among "religion" in this way. This is what makes it compatible with any political system, with any people, any nation, any tribe. It is not a concept of exclusivity or exclusivity, it is a one on one discourse of life.
>It isn't real Christianity because I say so
Well, so does the Church, and the Bible, and the many Christian philosophers, and Jesus too in how he lived.
>they are all wrong and my specific brand is correct
I don't have any specific brand, Christianity isn't my religion. It's not even a religion at all. I've already told you, it's a relationship.
Get off of the religion meme, it's bluepill tier.
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>>133700826
>It actually doesn't say anything about them. Take them or reject them. National/racial policy is entirely left out since Christianity isn't a political system.
Exactly a good christian would take refugees though. Maybe not as much as Germany but they would still take them whenever they were Black or White or Arab.
>He says you don't work you don't eat. This doesn't mean you aren't generous or that you can't give, it means you aren't exercising unrestrained virtue.
Still black refugees are welcome if they work. Civic nationalism the ideology
>But, it didn't. It stayed the same. You don't have to be Catholic to have a relationship with Christ.
You've still got to follow their virtues though. Many of them being cuck shit
>The point wasn't the number of people, it was that you shouldn't commit the generalization fallacy nor the categorical fallacy. The Church =/ Christianity.
Once again your very specific way is correct all the billions of other people are wrong. Either way Christianity developed the Church and all that has followed it. Still gave birth to a cuck church
>according to who? You? The ancient pagans certainly didn't say so, or at least they didn't see fit to write it down.
According to the Anglo-Saxons, and their laws against oath-breakers and traitors to the tribe.
>it is entirely unique among "religion" in this way. This is what makes it compatible with any political system, with any people, any nation, any tribe. It is not a concept of exclusivity or exclusivity, it is a one on one discourse of life.
If a "good" Black man is starving you feed him,. In Paganism you tell him to go back to Africa and feed himself, since he's standing on your ancestral land
>Well, so does the Church, and the Bible, and the many Christian philosophers, and Jesus too in how he lived.
Which is all up to interpration since there is no correct way to follow Jesus hence why the one billion divided sects of Christianity.
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>>133701300
>I don't have any specific brand, Christianity isn't my religion. It's not even a religion at all. I've already told you, it's a relationship.
>Get off of the religion meme, it's bluepill tier.
So get off Paganism then it doesn't have a "religion" since it's also very spiritual and about connection to the land and past ancestors. You sound butthurt about Paganism hence why your even in here
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>>133701468
meant for this post
>>133700826
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>>133693469
>pic
Fuck your nature

Revelation 8
7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter
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>>133697201
Holy shit you're a retard
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>>133701312
>>133701530
Your arguing with a Christian false flagger. Look at his other posts then the one where I call him out on it. Ya numbnut
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>>133677100
>The Phoenicians were blue eyed Viking settlers, just like the Sumerians
You are fucking joking... 100%... has to be satire - no fucking way you can be this retarded.
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>>133701713
And you doubted my falseflagging skills
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>>133701300
>Exactly a good christian would take refugees though
Why? Maybe out of reasonable or blind compassion, but in such a case of unrestrained virtue they wouldn't be considered a good Christian because of their ulterior motives (virtue for it's own sake, rather than a more disciplined approach with respect to the divine).
>but they would still take them
Again, why? Is it because they are Christian or because they are a Modern? I am willing to bet if it were any other time period they wouldn't even consider it.
It's not so much taking in refugees, it's taking in literal Islamic warriors. I wouldn't mind taking in a bunch of Swedes running from that hellhole previously known as Stockholm. I would send them back or somewhere else if they overstayed their welcome.
There's nothing wrong with virtue, its unrestrained virtue that is destructive.
>still black refugees are welcome
being a Christian doesn't have a bearing on that, refer back to previous answer. Any other time than now and things would be different, Christianity isn't the variable. Besides, most Europeans aren't even Christian, they are atheists practicing Christian virtue (minus the Christianity which tempers it).
>cuck shit virtues
Actually Varg thinks they are pagan in origin. Tolkien thinks Christianity caused paganism to be virtuous, the same for Chesterton. I tend to agree with the latter two rather than the former. Either way you're wrong.
>inb4 Nietzsche
He was kind of a mental patient who had a hard on for things he couldn't do, he also did't like Christianity because it didn't give him power over others. See Will Durant for Nietzsche's autistic life story.
Christian virtues are strength, loyalty, faith, goodwill, and their underpinning is courage.
>your very specific way
Christianity isn't a religion, how many times do I have to say this?
They aren't wrong, we in fact wouldn't even disagree on Christianity. Our socio-political opinions aren't Christian in origin because cont
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>>133702207
>>133701300
---because Christianity isn't a socio-political system.
The difference between the Pope and a nationalist Christian isn't a difference of Christianity, it is a difference of nationalism.
>still gave birth to a cuck church
Actually Jewish subversion and Italian fascism did. The Black shirts took out the backbone and instilled their cronies and then it the Church's weakness the Marxists/Jews/general Lefties came in and totally divorced it and derascinated it.
It was a plot from the outside, not corruption on the inside.
There were no pedophiles in the Catholic church before the Jews came.
>The Anglo-Saxons
Where?
>their laws
what laws?
>oathbrakers and traitors
against the tribe? Which makes the tribe a pagan institution that could not exist without paganism?
Also, do these Anglo-Saxons speak for all pagans, or just your specific brand of Anglo-Saxon paganism?
and are these the same Saxons who lamented Life itself in The Wanderer, The Seafarer, and the Wife's lament?
Where is the horse and the warrior?
>in paganism
Whose? how does one betray their tribe by being hospitable to a nigger?
>he's standing on your ancestral land
you're joking right? Enjoy having zero trade and no kinship beyond your incestuous family. Also the hypocrisy of it all when you go to war as well.
>it's all up to interpretation
Chill with the post-modernism
There is a correct way.
Even if you were right, that would make Christianity compatible with paganism, but then, why follow Jesus at all I guess?
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