Testosterone General - /TeG/

>>133662661
Soy isn't good. It's very high in estrogen. But you know what else is? That's fucking right: red meat!

>>133663191
yet every manufactured foodstuff in our market comes partially or directly from a soy source

Milk is okay though right? I don't care if it causes cancer, I'm not going to stop drinking milk.

>>133664472
Everything causes cancer. You'll never hide from it. So fuck it.

>>133662661
Why are you obsessed with testosterone? Masculinity so fragile

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>>133662661
Isn't left just breakfast?

i support this thread

>>133663191
provide proof without misconstruing BGH as estrogen

>>133662661
Smoking also increases testosterone dramatically and rapidly. Just don't go smoking packs a day. It also deepens your voice. Hence why many betas in their 20s these days sound like teenagers with a gay tint to their voice -- they don't smoke and lack testosterone.

>>133665068
I eat my own cum in order to feel rejuvenated

>>133662661
just buy testosterone at the drugstore if you
so craving it
why eat poor dead animals?

>>133665305
this is true
i wonder why smoking is discouraged and being beta is encouraged now....

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Soy for the goy

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>>133662661
Reminder that you can't be high T and not Christian

>>133665305
t. Non smoker

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>>133662661
>he doesn't want to be feminine
>laughinggirls.jpg

Here's a secret, senpai. Women fucking love femininity in males now.

>>133662661
I fap 3 times a day and in a constant state of sexual frustration. It's distracting and a waste of time and energy. I least thing I want now is an increase in testosterone.

>>133665660
Being a feminine male is a sin

>>133665660
femininity is easy to fake, masculinity is not

>>133665771
rather than ejaculating into your mouth, next time slide the tip up your ass; it will take care of your t problem

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http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/natural-estrogens.shtml

Ray Peat is essential anti-estrogen reading

>>133665305
There are better ways of naturally increasing testosterone without such negative health effects. I know some people think the anti-smoking campaigns are based on lies but it's visibly evident that smoking makes you less fit, plus I know a lot of weedy soy boys who smoke

>>133665305
Can't really confirm this. I quit smoking a pack a day recently (went full retard) cold turkey but I didn't notice any drop in my voice when I did smoke.

>>133665068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgNmL82dfHM&t

you're a faggot and obviously you don't care about this stuff, but check this 1980s yearbook of a random highschool
see how developed all the guys look, especially when you compare it to a current highschool in a western country?

>>133665346
Ah yes, ejaculating into your own mouth is part of any quality fitness program

>>133662661
Anabolicmen.com

All you need

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>>133662661
Honestly looking at pretty girls make me horny and increases my test to peak levels, pic related, average north mexican woman

>>133665771
>in a constant state of sexual frustration
bc after fap u get prolactine lvl increase
this is a tricky nature mechanism to prevent one alpha male fuck all girls around
u ofc can avoid it with cabergoline
or just with rare fap

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>>133665571
My man.

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>>133662661
its like I was made for this thread, op

https://pastebin.com/hdDMNfe7

>>133662661
koreans leftist..
HAHAHAHA
koreans are some of the most racist people in the world.
ENGLISH TO LOUD GET OUT OF MY STORE
GO AWAY WHITE DEVIL

Anyone serious about naturally increasing testosterone should be taking Vitamin D3 and Zinc supplements (and also maybe fish oil)

>>133666049
I am just sitting here chuckling that you had that video already on hand

>>133665660
curiously pre-1960s countries had smoking advertisements calling out the health benefits of smoking, at least for males.

>>133665771
Sven please

>>133665305
thanks man, that's very useful

Look at those fat fucks on the right, disgusting.

Red meat should be consumed once a week if not less. Chicken is much better and should be consumed until the end of time.

>>133665660
Wrong. Get out of the basement and get laid, Jeffrey.

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>>133666134
I visited Monterrey last weekend. It is full of indios. I used to go back in the early 90s and it's very different now. There are literally neighborhoods where everyone speaks some other language that isn't even Spanish.

GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY FAGGOTS white devils
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXfgGRNkcVQ


and fuck off niggers go back to africa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kqDCrObl44

in korea
white = rich elitists
black = poor african farm workers

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>>133666131
https://www.anabolicmen.com/fish-oil-testosterone/

Finally a website that doesn't push the fish oil meme

Ray Peat dropping mad red pills on fish oil toxic waste

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml

Unfortunately most people have been fed a stead diet of fish oil propaganda their whole life and refuse to even THINK about the fact it may be shit

The gospel of fish oil fundamentalists
>fish oil is good for you
>why?
>because omega 3 fatty acids are good for you
>why?
>lmao dude the doctor said so!

That's the extent of their knowledge of fish oil, sad!

another extremely valuable website
anabolicmen.com

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>>133662661
sorry, kpop idols are hot

>>133665660
gr8 b8 m8

>>133666508
What are you even pretending faggot. Somebody posts a video and you come up with some made up bitching.

>>133666461
>fish oil

good meme

see>>133667327

>>133666595
technically vegans have the highest source of testosterone :/.and lowest body fat ratios.Only genetic freaks and people on steroids have higher sorry chan bot :/.

>Question.
What foods contain testosterone mainly?

>>133662661
Those guys on the left score a TON of pussy in Nipland.

>>133667740
pretty sure Lemmy fucked over 5,000 women before he kicked the bucket

>>133662661
Every one of those boys look like fuckin girls... except kris.. he looks like he came out of a fuckin final fantasy game

>>133662661
Funny things is those skinny fags most likely have more test on the account of not being fat fucks.

>>133662661
Test makes you a baldie fuck that.

>>133667650
gr8 sources m8
https://www.anabolicmen.com/how-to-lower-testosterone/

>>133667970
that's mostly genetic

>>133662661
Meat. Real food for real men.

High testorsteone. Low intellect. No morals.

>>133662661
>muh testosterone
t. overcompensating virgin dicklet

>>133662661
>real men
>gay leather jacket
kek

>>133668042
>High testorsteone. Low intellect
>>133668056

lmao all those leftists
https://youtu.be/C3KsuzfSMjg

>>133665487
>>133665305
Jews have already invaded the thread i see

Yes goyim smoke and get lung cancer so only betas are left, good goyim

>>133665660
They like it in pictures, they still fuck Chad.

Or have you not left Mummy's basement lately?

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>>133662661
I've been getting into Motorhead recently and I have to say that they're very impressive. They had a huge sound for a 3 man group.

>>133665305
[CITATION NEEDED]

>>133667327

http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/fish-oil-friend-or-foe-201307126467

>literal Harvard doctor says fish oils is okay to take if you might be omega 3 deficient and don't eat chia seeds every day like some fag

>>133665305
Bullshit. Most of the faggots I have seen smoking cigarettes are little pussies.

>>133668318
i got laid about 50% more when i smoked compared to when i didn't

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>>133662661
>doing all that work to protect estrogen so it can absorb your test

>>133668318

Smoking men had 15% higher total and 13% higher free testosterone levels compared with men who never smoked.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17163954

To much general general general fuck this lame ass thread

>>133668475
Nicotine is a vitamin

>>133666049
I blame video games and current trends. Vidya keeps boys inside so they stay pale and scrawny, and facial hair was in style back then. Nothing will make you look 10 years older like a mustache and thin rim glasses.

>>133668169
>>High testorsteone. Low intellect
I'm not the one who posted the OP pic, blame him.

>>133668533
Nofap gives em ass cancer and alimony finishes em off

>>133668520
change your flag faggot
niacin/nitcotinic acid is an essential vitamin though, look it up everyone else

There are secrets. Tricks.

You can't avoid the xenoestrogens and phytoestrogens in our food and environment. Jews put them there for a reason. It is systemic. Further, these substances accumulate in the body. You are always taking in more.

Test boosting practices are a half measure. The jew has done what is required to lower the testoserone of the cattle. Are you willing to do what is necessary to reverse it?

25mgs of clomiphene citrate per day. Doing that for a month will boost your total T to 1000 ng/dl no matter how bad your hormonal situation is.

>>133668475
plenty of trannies and gay men smoke, senpai

>>133668448
Then pick up some weights

>>133668653
Close your legs pussycuck

The powers that be want us all to be vegans.

Veganism is not an optimal diet for humans.

Humans are omnivores. We had to be to survive.

Eat a little bit of everything, including meat, and never eat til you're full. Always leave the table a little bit hungry.

>>133668706
Japs and greeks smoke more than us. Less lung cancer. There is something called truvada now. Straights think their porn is gay. Phallic things dont make you womany. Vaginas do

>>133665305
This is exactly why I started smoking

>>133668706
there are a lot of trannies that are masculine af despite taking hormones though
probably a topic of another thread though

>>133668680
50-100 mg of cyproterone acetate daily works even better

>>133668475
https://www.anabolicmen.com/smoking-testosterone/
this one cites several studies, including (((yours))), and they contradict themselves - perhaps some of those studies were financed by tobacco companies?
> …And even though tobacco seemingly doesn’t decrease testosterone, it can still become lethal (think lung cancer, etc)

>>133668263
T. Chink

No one is advocating addiction, retard.
>>133668415
>Anecdotals

>>133666049
Take me back to a simpler time.

>>133668924
It's a vitamin. Fuck off nobody cares. Weed is in titmilk. What is more masculine? Fighting propaganda and deeply held bullshit beliefs? Or shilling for pear earth heteros?

>>133668414
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml

Fish oil destroyed by a phd biology professor with over 40 years research experience

>>133668706
Ever notice how trannys that smoke usually have deeper voices and more masculine faces?

>>133668924
(((You)))

There's a reason Jews advocate strongly against smoking.

>>133669298
so did Hitler

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>>133668414
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0214/huge_and_healthy.php3

>By Howard LeWine, M.D
>contributor at jewish world review

Just look who keeps pushing fish oil, surely it's a coincidence

>>133662661

GAS THE SOY BASED JEW

>>133668799
hmm idk I love dicks and I'm pretty feminine

>>133668169
>lmao all those leftists
>https://youtu.be/C3KsuzfSMjg [Remove]

hooooo

those punches. i'd be too busy laughing to get angry

>>133665305
>>133669041
>>133669298
are you also behind this pasta?
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/as%20long%20and%20you%20can%20smoke%20in%20moderation/type/op/

>>133668896

That is a selective androgen receptor modulator with anti androgen effects you cum gargling colon cowboy. It is used by mentally ill men who want to play at being a woman.

Clomiphene is a selective estrogen receptor modular. It blocks estrogen from the receptors. In men, estrogen is created by converting testosterone via the aromatase enzyme. If the hypothalamus in your brain does not register an adequate level of estrogen, it releasea a cascade of hormonal signals to the pituitary gland, which it turn signals the tested to produce more tesoterone.

In short, clomiphene blocks estrogen, the body makes estrogen from testosterone, so the male body's reaction is to start pumping out testosterone.

>>133668752
>The powers that be all want us to be vegans
what are ag-gag laws

>>133668169

they don't even push into exhausting the muscle groups. they feign a few movements, then stop and switch to something else after a couple of seconds. they're just going through motions hoping people will watch them, not actually in training. fucking retards.

>>133669754
Nah, but I do mention it occasionally. It's good to wake people up. Men need to increase their testosterone levels back again. It helps deepen the voice, and many betas these days sound like teenage girls.

>>133666049
Kids used to start at later ages. We are evolving and realizing our 4 and 5 year olds aren't as retarded as once thought

HOLY SHIT
the myth that high T equals low IQ comes from a study done on NIGGERS
https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2014/08/13/high-testosterone-linked-to-lowered-iq/
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>133670129
stfu

why can't men grow thick facial hair anymore on on anything besides their chin and lip?

>>133668873
Good goy

pastebin.com/BVtDDisi

>>133664472
Raw milk is ok. Anything else is shit tier

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>>133662661
>bitches about faggy boys
>outs himself as a hippy and a stupid one at that for eating carcinogens

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>>133665787
>pic related is a sin

>>133668294
They love the smooth skin, and clean body odor from avoiding red meat and dairy like flies to honey.

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>>133665553

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18182974
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22648714
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22339411
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19211820

Also Asian cultures include a very high intake of soy and I don't see any evidence of abnormal cancer rates or health issues there.

>>133666134
>>133666851
why are you guys letting the apes run rampant

>>133666049
don't really see the difference.
they're supposed to be seniors right?
Look pretty much in the 17/18/19 range desu

>>133663680
>Argentina white confirmed.

>>133662661
I was born hermaphroditic, I have way more E than T. I was assigned boy due to phallus size and was miserable my whole life until I stopped taking T supplements and embraced that I was meant to be a girl.

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ITT: Insecure boys desparately trying to be masculine.

>>133665264
>confuses phytoestrogens with estrogen
>posts this

>>133666134
Fuck you Pedro I've seen 100,000+ Mexican whores and ain't none of them looked like that.

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What about pea protein? Also what is best exercise to get rid of manboobs? I run 2 miles every day, they won't go away.

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>>133676114
You have gyno. Might wanna ask /fit/ about that, and get ready to be laughed at.

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>>133676114
>>133676264
uh yeah I get laughed at everyday of my life. oh well.

>>133665305
Can we kill contrarians before the gays?

>>133674754
Fermentation you stupid fuck.

Fermentation of soy kills the gay

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>>133662661

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>>133676264
Tell me you at least wear a sports bra or minimizer to stop the jiggling?

>>133676355
Well, I'll give you some advice, then.

>actually ask /fit/ about your gyno
>don't expect spot reduction to do jack shit
>pea and rice protein are fine, but they're not as bioavailable as something like whey; vary up your protein sources and do some research into amino acid content/ratios if you're not drinking dairy
>look into hemp protein, too

>>133676524
This guy knows what's up with pytoestrogens. Ferment that shit.

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>>133676355
oops that was egg white protein

>>133662661
>teens now adays are too weak

Wrong. Theirs simply a greater divide between strong and weak simply look up highschool sports and you'll see what I'm talking about, hell you can see 17 year old squatting 700 lbs and benching 315

How much is a t-test

>>133676829
But which amino acids will increase my T levels. Is whey the only way?

>>133662661
btw, those asian guys are racists, check out google searches on them- they hate blacks

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>>133676806
Oh, I don't have moobs. And if I did, I wouldn't wear a fucking bra.

>>133676851
That's fine, but you really should be getting most of your protein from whole foods anyway. Not the hipstery neoliberal all-devouring corporation Whole Foods; whole foods.

>>133676994
I dunno about your t-levels. Anecdotally, ice baths and not jacking off constantly actually do something, as does resistance training. You look up amino acid ratios to ensure that you're not neglecting any given essential one. The reason meat and soy have a "100" on those protein comparison things is because they have "complete" amino acid profiles, but even that's horseshit because there's an upper limit at 100 on those things.

How is any of this political?

>>133677051
/ourgays/

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>>133676524
>soy milk
>soy beans
>soy noodle soup

Are you implying that all of these popular food items are fermented as well cause I wasn't strictly speaking about tofu. Also I was mainly commenting on the cancer and not about testosterone or estrogen (apparently known as the "gay" according to you). Nice try though.

>>133662661

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4WvH6X6vv0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfuE0iFSKUI

/pol/ btfo

>>133665305
you fucking pleb lol

>>133662661
There's nothing wrong with dairy or soy.

Meat is fine. But you need vegetables too.

The only leftist food ideology is veganism.

>>133665305
>what makes cigars different from cigarettes?

The fact is cigars are wrapped in dried tobacco leaves while a cigarettes is wrapped in paper and this is where a majority of the health problems come from

>smoking smells disgusting

Only cigarettes smell bad, cigars are completely different in that they are very pleasantly scented and only leave a good smell behind

>smoking causes lung cancer

While smoking cigarettes does have correlation with lung cancer, cigars are different because you do not inhale them, you simply keep it in your mouth and then blow it out

>how will I know if I've inhaled

You will cough violently

>cigars are expensive

Most things that are worth their salt are

>I'm still not sure

What if I told you smoking raises testosterone?
http://www.hormones.gr/8449/article/cigarette-smoking-has-a-positive-and….html

https://youtu.be/-Tn7MO1c8uc

What if I told you smoking a cigar has more benefits than negative effects

https://youtu.be/YgvBsuojXQY

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.livescience.com/15115-5-health-benefits-smoking-disease.html

>why are you trying to encourage unhealthy habits

This is not like cigarettes, you are not supposed to smoke these every day perhaps every week to every other week, and this is meant to strengthen the bonds you have with your other right wing friends

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.famous-smoke.com/cigaradvisor/sharing-cigars-with-friends/amp

And I'll just leave this here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_in_Jewish_law

So what is /pol/ waiting for? Grab your alt right buddies and light up some stogies!

https://youtu.be/qYf1AgZAXuI

>>133666049
Or maybe they look more developed because we're used to seeing those kinds of clothes on adults who kept elements of their fashion sense from high school. Thus, we've come to associate that look with maturity.

>>133662661
To be fair, Lemmy was more alcohol than man.

>>133678159
NOW FOR THE FINAL REDPILL

>muh 7000 chemicals in a cigarette straw man

This myth was created in the 1960s by the FDA who ordered alllll tabacoo companies list EVERY chemical THEY MIGHT USE in their products. Such chemicals make a cigarette burn longer, have more flavor, keep them from getting damp etc. so to avoid this but natural cigarette such as American spirits, or better yet ROLL YOUR OWN

>Le ur a Jew trying to get us to smoke

Yes because things that the media is against/society, is clearly something you shouldn't do. You're so blue pilled to have never looked into this more than what you've been taught such a blue pilled thing to do. And if smoking is so bad for you then how come eroupe (who smokes way more than the US) is also healthier than the US???

>>133677340
I do stuff, in fact I was an allstate defensive lineman in HS and still had manboobs. Ever since then I been working in oilfield lifting heavy shit all day. Now I just have back aches and come home angry at my wife and kids.

>>133675666
>he thinks his subjective personality sets him apart from everyone else

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>>133662661
I prefer being a masc for masc gay

Women are scary :(
Men are sexy and make great boyfriends :3

Also my hormones aren't fine because I lift weights and eat meat. I'm just naturally submissive though

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>>133665660
>nazi flag
>he doesn't want to be feminine

>>133678861
Actually no I'm quite secure in my personality. It's entertaining reading how hard you guys try though.

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>>133666134

>>133665660
I'd rather date men and be a soppy fag like I am now with my bf :3

>>133680003
next time you want to be a faggot can you at least hide your flag

>>133680322
No I like being a gay Brit <3

I want all of /pol/ to know I've taken a mans cum in my bum

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>>133662661

Wew lad, wouldn't mind feeding those bouys on the left some of my soy if you know what I mean.

[spoiler]I mean I want to have sex with them and jizz on their faces[/spoiler]

SUPER MALE VITALITY

This has to be one of the most bullshit threads I've ever seen on here.

You want to know what's lowering test in men and raising estrogen in women? It's not the soy, it's the fucking hormones put into the fucking meat this goy is trying to get you to eat.

Combine that with the pesticides, herbicides, and glyphosate on fruit and veg, and combine that with the pharma in the water, fluoride in the water. Combine that with all the fucking plastic, and morons eating everything out of plastic and cooking food in plastic.

So what should you actually be eating? Mostly organically raised fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds with small amounts of naturally raised, hormone free meats (maybe one or two meat meals a week). If you cannot find or afford hormone free meat, you are far better off using beans, lentils, and wheat as a source of protein.

It's a complete and utter fabrication and mass marketing myth, backed up by zero science, that eating meat = high testosterone.

>>133678159

cigar lover here.

That video was the least convincing thing I've ever seen. That guy actually said "there's almost science behind it, when you think about it, basically." He said this trying to claim that the relaxation benefits of smoking outweigh the risks. I highly doubt this, and I say this as a person who has literally smoked thousands of cigars in my lifetime.

Smoking causes a number of problems, even cigars, such as cancers of the oral cavity, pharynx, esophagus, tongue, etc.. They also raise your blood pressure, and ALL tobacco products (even dip) are known to have negative effects on the cardiovascular system. It also contributes to sleep apnea which is a more serious problem than people realize. On top of this, all tobacco products have nicotine which stimulate your endocrine system in an unhealthy way (they force adrenaline and other hormones to release when they ought not to be for example, hence the racing heart tobacco can cause).

The reality is that cigar smoking is not a good thing, but the human body is so amazing at adapting that a healthy person can pretty much absorb the effects, much like the way that soda is unhealthy but occasional indulgence is fine for people who aren't diabetic, etc… But in the long run smoking cigars will put your health at risk. I recently cut cigars out for health reasons, but when I did smoke I limited it to 1 per day and sometimes 2 on special occasions. But I was never under the delusion that it was a healthy habit. It’s not and over time repeated indulgence will take its toll.

Will I smoke cigars in the future? Probably. But far less frequently than the 1 per day I used to smoke, and I encourage others to practice similar moderation. I believe they are safer than cigarettes and dip, but nothing that feels that good is without risks. In my opinion you have misrepresented the reality of cigar smoking.

>>133683966

I have never seen a post this based by a leaf before. Well done, anon. This is true.

How do we get this lifestyle back? Everything is so feminised these days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA1h9h7-_Z4

>>133666049
the only positive I can see from this video is that the school is 100% white, and the music isnt half bad

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>>133683966
Would that suggest going for more of a paleo diet then? Such as pic related even if it's a meme

>>133662661
Is that fuckin Motörhead on the right?

>>133676829
Correct, the Japanese eat Natto. STRONGLY FERMENTED SOY.

>>133676524
I've read i tincreases cancer risk tho...

>>133665412
Spoken like a true faggot,
Keep your ass open and your mouth shut, bitch.

>>133665660
Yeah buddy, keep up your femininity and real men will go spartan on your pretty little girl ass
you fucking argR bitch.

>>133677911
I eat vegetables when I need too settle my stomache

>>133688015
>chocolate
>white rice

>no boar
>no shark
>no pork
>no snake
>no bear hearts
>no manflesh
>no dragon
>no breasts of young virgin human females
>no ass of young virgin human females
>no virgin human females

kys you lanky cotton-elf fuck! I will eat your fucking ass!

>>133668680
This is actually legitimate up to date advice, I am shocked. Listen to this guy.

Low dose clomid is like a soft TRT without the shutdown issues from conventional testosterone/steroid use.

anyone who unironically eats uncooked meat is not a man, they are a fucking retard

good luck with those tapeworms, I hear they can grow 12 feet long inside you

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>>133666208
Thanks for actually contributing
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21154195

>>133665305
holy fucking shit this is he most retarded thing I've ever heard

The "men" in this thread are probably the 5' 9" floppy armed fatty-muscle role players in cutoff t-shirts you see hanging around public places drinking beers

>>133694389
pathetic post

>>133668475
>had
In addition to the obvious lung cancer smoking is bad for erections so sounds pretty obviously like a net negative in the end

Testosterone leads to early death anyways. Or at least DHT does, testosterone is probably alright. Should definitely nuke your DHT as that's usually what causes the most issues and although it's more powerful than T you can simply increase your T levels to makeup for loss of DHT without any consequences.
Personally I use a lot of phytoestrogen supplements and make sure not to eat too much saturated fat. I'm the only one in my family that didn't get MPB and it helps get rid of wrinkles. I really don't care about sterility or my dick cause I'm basically celibate anyway.

>>133665077
CHECKED and kek'd

>>133662661
>Daily fail

>>133662661

I get what you're saying about soy OP, but all I see in your pic are faggots and moar faggots.

>>133675760
>Growth hormone is estrogen
>Plant estrogen is not estrogen
The synapses are depolarizing themselves!

>>133697035
Well phyotoestrogens are a type of estrogen in the sense that estrogens are a chemical classification, they're not estradiol though which is probably what that person meant, and at no point do they ever convert to estradiol. They're an exogenous estrogen.

>>133697176
>What is structure and function
>"They can't possibly act similarly even though they're structurally similar because the government hasn't released any data that says so!"

>>133697400
Well they're estrogenic, they act somewhat similar, but they're SERMs technically.

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>>133662661
Eat alot of meat.My arms be like this still. I don't drink milk. Is it be cause I don't lift?

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>>133662661
this might be the most retarded thing I've read on /pol/, ever.

eat meat = real man

lmao. kill yourself you insecure cunt

>>133697649
>Is it be cause I don't lift?
You are aware of how the human body works, right? You don't just gain muscle because you eat meat.....

>>133662661
Never realized how much shit has soy in it.

>>133697496
Right, the full extent of which will never be researched with government funds. The first guy I quoted said that fucking growth hormone was estrogen, but not this.

>>133665305
Smoking isn't worth it. I'm finally down to half a pack a day and I still feel like shit, man.

>>133697649
if your not lifting then you can't expect any major results. If your like most people, start lifting at home (even just pushups and squats), get some muscle then go to the gym this should help reduce the "Gym NewFag" feeling that alot of people get.

But yeah... you have to destroy some muscle fibres to promote stronger ones to take there place. Go to /fit/ and read the sticky if you want to start lifting at a basic level

>>133697649
no it's because of your bone structure mate - just look at your small wrists, you prone to have small muscles everywhere provided you like a normal person and not some beast.

>>133697813
I know... (I do food nutrition courses) just fucking with OPs retarded post.

>>133697935
Phytoestrogens get researched a ton. They're used for prostate cancer quite often nowadays. Within the past 5-10 years the research has exploded.
Isoflavones in dosages of around 500-1000mg/day has been used in prostate cancer treatment in 3 studies so far.
Also there's dozens and dozens of synthetic isoflavones coming out.

SERMs are pretty much the best way to stay femboy-mode forever considering they're generally more powerful than estradiol at most tissues but have weak activity at the breasts.

>>133697967
Go maith .I will do that. I have a 12kg somewhere in my house. Probably not enough

>>133698008
Only exercise I get is on the bike . My town is in a valley so the hills are good for stamina training.

>>133698167
>Talking about estrogen and testosterone
>This kind of research will never come out
>"Nuh-uh, look! They're doing research on phytoestrogens as cancer therapy and neuroprotective agents!"
Anon, come on.

>>133662661
Meat is the cause you dummy, what are xenoestrogens?

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>>133665305

holy shit if you can convince pol jews dont like suicide you could wipe out pol in one swoop

>>133665068
>The flag
>Straight to insulting the man's character

You didn't even try.

>>133698528
>India telling us not to eat cows
Not today, pajeet.

>>133698634
You do realize American meat has enough xenoestrogens to totally convert mice from one gender to another, really activates my almonds

>>133662661
ok where the shill or the merchant thats going to magically sell me the ultra protein test powder
also
soy has been proven to have NO ESTROGEN
but you know what has a shit ton of estrogen
CHICKEN
FUCKING CHICKEN
AND BEER cucboi

ps if you want to increase test just EAT SOME FUCKING BROCCOLI AND LIFT WEIGHTS CUNT

>>133688015
Yes, paleo is one way, though many confuse that to mean eating steak and hamburgers (big fail). The key is to eat natural foods in their natural, unprocessed, unpackaged states, mostly plant based (and yes, no soy). Eating this way, physical activity, lots of sleep and low stress is the key to high testosterone (not eating steaks like a lardass).

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>>133662661
>95% of all soy in the world is GMO
>7 essential nutrients are not found outside of meat
>cannot get callogen from plant matter
suck it veg heads

>>133698758
>A cow has enough hormones in it to change the chemical makeup of an animal that weighs 20g

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>>133665346

>>133668873
literally a good goy

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>>133662661
It is not just because of the meat yknow, is that in the past young people used to work out by far a lot more than they do now.
We have to teach the young how working out and eating well is a responsibility we have with our own body.

>>133699013
You retard that's not how hormones work, look up what xenoestrogens are I even have studies that correlate xenoestrogens usage in animals and plants and the decrease in overall testosterone

>>133688015
>no brocolli or cauliflower
cucks

>>133696052
people who take steroids sometimes get ED, it is one of the side effects, but they are ripped as fuck.

>>133699193
>Dosage against bodyweight isn't important
Are you retarded?

>>133698432
that's great - cardio is good for everyone and it's a neat hobby

>>133697967
I don't like this - if your lifting ONLY to look better, it makes you look like you have low confidence/poor self esteem. you could lie to people and say you genuinely enjoy lifting things up and putting them down - but come on, let's be real... who actually enjoys lifting as a sport and not just to look better?
better to gain your muscles via a sport - like swimming, and your body will look MUCH better.

White manlets date tall high test white women, we can save the white race

>>133699270
You can't eat estrogen directly for the cow you dumb fuck, xenoestrogens are endocrine disruptors, fuckin hell I can already tell you are an American.

THE INJECT CHEMICALS IN YOUR COW THAT MAKE YOU A SISSY

Did that get through, would bother going a Google search now or is your waifu downloading

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Red meat for healthy ejaculations.

>>133699483
*doing

>>133699483
That's only in certain countries, it's banned in Canada

I believe they still allow it in the US though. I can always tell a difference in taste between Canadian and American beef.

>>133665660
>>>>(((women)))

If I had low testosterone as a child and teenager due to not doing any of these things, does that mean I have permanent physical ailments as a result? Narrow shoulders, not as tall as i'd be, babyface, etc

>>133699483
You still don't actually understand what I was saying, nor have you provided any sources on your claims. You're a dumb poo in loo.

>>133662661
I just became "vegan".. So now we only eat fresh chickens from a farmer friend (organic no hormone stuff), we eat wild deer and pig that i shoot. But we are trying to remove all store bought (and processed) meat from our diets. Just plant based foods, except for the meats we eat, hence why i used quotes around vegan..

My wife watched this " documentary" on Netflix called... "Eat Plants, cause Meat and Dairy is full of hormones and Humans dont nees Protein from Meat because Protein is only created by Plants and then the Animals Eat the Plants, so You are basically just eating Second Hand Protein anyway."

>>133688015

>no poultry
>ice cream and milk chocolate
>not fatty fish

is this all a joke

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>>133694389
>kys you lanky cotton-elf fuck! I will eat your fucking ass!
Kek

>>133699574
They banned a few of the compounds in Canada they still use xenoestrogens, it's quite hard finding beef without it.

I fell for the "saturated fat and cholestrol actually isnt bad for you" meme.

Last year i usually had for breakfast, big fat juicy strips of bacon with 2-4 eggs. Then a simple sandwich or salad for lunch to balance it out, then some hamburgers, tacos, or stir fries with lots of beef/chicken because why not? cholestrol is good for the testesterone. Got a blood test earlier this year and my doctor said if i kept eating like i did now i would have a heart attack in 10 years.

LIMIT THE SAT FAT AND CHOLESTEROL NO MATTER WHAT SOME MEMEING FUCKHEAD ON 4CHAN SAYS

>>133699673
I'm taller than my mom dad and sister
They are big meat eaters and I prefered veggies, hated most meat

Wonder if the two are connected

>>133699301

yea ok let me add in a few hours of soccer, some football, polo, and a bunch of other sports I dont give a shit about to build strength in a really inefficient way, because im afraid to say I lift weights

that's about a million times more insecure

>>133699827
fucking retard

>eating soy is bad
>eating cows who ate soy pellets it's entire life is good
you need grass fed animals

>>133668308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9YRhKcLJK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSodCuo73ig


Rest in piece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfgycAOT0KI

>>133662661
The guys on the right look gay

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>>133699827

>pig in his ID

kek

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>>133700048

>no such thing as grass fed beef

i grow my own cows retard

>>133698634
Based Japan strikes again thanks for putting this poo in the loo faggit in his place senpai

how do you reduce stress levels if you naturally get anxious over minor shit? I can talk to people fine once I actually start a conversation but when I'm walking from place to place I feel tense for no reason

need to reduce cortisol somehow lads

>>133700083
ikr
>pic on the right to claim real man
>they look straight out of a leather club

>>133699728
What you were 'trying' to say is unscientific and as you can't be bothered to even look it up i am pretty sure you are an American so it's alright keep eating that beef and make sure you feed it to your kids

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>>133665077
T. Brit

>>133699483
speak for your self, I eat exclusively invasive species around my state, wild boar like a king with a fine princely pepper rub. It even has that taste that old male pigs get from the test going through the muscles.
Thinking of spear hunting next time with a loincloth, going truly wild.

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>>133700265

keep not eating beef and having a country wide epidemic of having dicks too small for condoms. sad!

>>133662661
>that image
You're a fucking sodomite for saving all those boys you fucking queer. Go back to Fire Island you ass blasting cock sucker.

>>133666134
Looks more like a slav
Taco nigger is lying to us

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>>133700365

good goy, good

>>133700265
>Still doesn't understand what I said
>Still doesn't understand why saying cows have enough estrogen to give mice a sex change is stupid
>Still hasn't provided a source
I'm actually a biochemist. I think you're just an idiot. Remember to poo in the loo.

non homogenised milk from grass fed cows.

When cows are fed grass they turn it into good quality milk that actually has triptophan (one of the hardest amino acids to get) in it.

Homogenized milk is impossible to digest until it has been put back together, as the process cleaves apart both fat chains and protein chains.
Until then, you are introducing crazy new half chains into your body and your body has no instructions on how to react to them.

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>>133666134
Average Mexican woman and groupies

>>133700460
>Not knowing that cave men had the highest test.

>>133662661
They are deliberately putting soy into our food for this purpose. A weak populace is easier to control.

>>133699993
what?

Since this is a food thread, whats the best peanut butter you guys have found? I like the extra chunky skippy peanut butter, but it still has added sugar, salt, and palm oil...why do these fucking asshole food companies try their hardest to make us weak fatasses? Why cant i just buy a peanut butter jar thats just peanuts blended without some kike ceo saying throw in more salt and sugar to poison the goys?

>>133700605

[citation needed]

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>>133700722

look @ your ID nigger

>>133700471
>I am actually a biochemist
Appeal to authority fallacy

>A biochemist thinks we can eat 'estrogen' from a cow
Good one, does your dad work at Nintendo too?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1281309/

>>133700874
God dammit the Jews are everywhere

>>133700460
Are you retarded or just shitposting?

if you cant punch a streetcar regardless of if you eat meat or soybeans in life, then you are not a man

>>133699301
Yo its not about enjoying it, its about self love.
You want to look good and strong so you train, most people don't like to train anyway.

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>>133700048
>Cows eating soy pellets
Ah yes, the mccow amiright?

>>133700896
>Still doesn't understand what I said
>Links a decade old review that focuses on pesticides and BPA
Why are you so fucking stupid?

>>133700188
What age are you?
Are you virgin?
Did you suffer bullying at school?
Do you dislike yourself?

But dude. What about glam metal? Metal is like the gayest genre there is. It's also the manliest though. Metal is just the best.

>>133701524
the manliest is progressive rock

>>133701019

moron

Is Mediterranean a good diet or should I take the Paleo meme?

>>133678536

Wait until they find the redpill about Japan and smoking rates.

>One of the top smoking countries in the world with a state-owned tobacco industry.
>Lowest rates of lung cancer worldwide.

>>133662661
>2017
>Not eating your own cum so you don't lose proteins

Stay weak faggets

>>133701613

Uh don't you mean progressive metal. Circus Maximus, Dream Theater, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, Pain of Salvation. Aww yiss.

>>133701734
Its funny because eating your own cum actually produces estrogen
On the other hand it makes your skin clear and your teeth white

>>133701613
mostly gay art students making the good stuff (aksaq moboul, heldon, seazer, etc).

manliest music genre is early power electronics.

>>133701798
point taken

>>133701693
Mediterranean is probably just as good as paleo. It's high in MUFAs and SFAs the same as paleo. I do believe it has a slightly higher amount of PUFAs but that's not a bad thing.
The whole PUFA:MUFA/SFA ratio is grossly exaggerated. Exercise will counteract any hit to testosterone that PUFAs cause, and PUFAs are actually very good for your neurological health. From a reasonable perspective you shouldn't worry about it unless it is actually causing issues.

>>133701613
Manliest genre is classical. Being manly has nothing to do with being an edgy fuck.

>>133665660
Leave faggot

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>>133678536
>Roll your own cigarettes

I AM TOM SAWYER

>>133662661
in this day and age the safest meat for men to eat is bugmeat.

That is the extreme we must go to as men in order to obtain untainted meat
>unless you have land and can chickens and goats

>>133662661
this is all very silly. Soy is delicious, we shouldn't stop eating it in fact let's go have some right now.

>>133668680
what's the best supplement for this

>>133678536
What about working out?
Smoking decreases your cardio efficiency non?

>>133678536
kek. this is legit one of the dumbest things i've ever read on /pol/

>>133700776
There are quite a few peanut butters that are just mashed peanuts sometimes with salt added. Read the ingredients. You'll also notice a layer of oil that builds on top from natural peanut butter. Just normal separation, mix it before use if you'd like, or skim it off

>>133704268
Easiest one to find I know of is Smuckers. I can even get it here.

>obsessed with being perceived as masculine

makes you wonder who the faggy boys really are

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>>133678159
>smoking cigars

>>133701400
>19
>no
>Not really, just went under the radar
>I think I could be doing much more than I am

>>133676114
>boob
maybe stop being a kekistani FAGGOT and they'll go away?

>>133705251
Work on breathing more efficiently/maintaining good posture, helped me cut back stress

>>133662661
>Tfw lactose intolerant
>drink soy milk
>even though working out, noticing a bit of flab coming around
>ruling out sodas, fast food and even sweets
>all thats left is soy

am i being pulled into the jews ploy?

>>133707412
You cant even drink water

>>133707246
Posture is fine but asthma really fucks up my breathing so that's probably one of the reasons behind it

>tfw /fit/ but breathlet

>>133662661
bought some test boosters/estrogen blockers the other day i hope they work

>>133700622
honestly their extreme fertility is kind of hot

>>133662661
>GM soy is bad!
>Here, buy this hormone-filled meat instead, goy!
Enjoy your man-tits, sucker. The truth is - there is so many people on Earth that feeding everyone without abusing hormones, pesticides and GM crops is impossible.

>>133662661
That would be 9.6%, not 10%.

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>>133666461
I fucking hate taking vitamins because they feel like a dumb waste of money but my hairline grew back to normal after less than one year of zinc pills.

>>133707412
Drink the Silk Almond/Cashew plus Pea Protein milk. It has more protein than soy milk, and no soy, famm.

>>133700776
Anything that doesn't have hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated on the label.

>>133694389
>Yeah buddy, keep up your femininity and real men will go spartan on your pretty little girl ass
you fucking argR bitch.

H-hi.

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>>133700776
I buy this. Only ingredient is peanuts but the oil seperation is a bit annoying. Has a stronger peanut butter taste though so it's worth it.

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>>133662661
It's not what you eat, it's about what quality you eat and if you prepare it yourself. Apple from store isn't the same as apple from your tree, neither is meat or bread.

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Is fapping at least once a day ruining my test levels?

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$22.69

1lb of Chorizo
3lb pork shoulder
12 eggs
peanut butter
spicy kimchi
1lb cauliflower
1lb broccoli
2 onions

>>133662661
>Have you noticed how weak and fragile do modern teens look compared to 30 years ago?
They are, however, much taller and that's all you faggots care about, so whatever?

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>>133708794
>that file name

>>133667327
Soy has just as many negative studies on it as positive. That's legit.

Fish oil studies are unanimously positive. You're an idiot.
>t. R&d scientist for nutritional determination. 10 years experience.

FOUND THIS OUT A WHILE AGO as was shook at how much food has Soy in it

they rly trying to turn us into bitches

>>133708899
fish oil lowers test though which is all that counts.
Testosterone is literally poison. Might as well chop 10 years off your life expectancy if you're high test, 15-20 years if you're high T plus high DHT.

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>>133666134
> The average person looks far above average
What the fuck did Pedro mean by this?

abandon sugar
abandon soy
abandon grains
achieve ketosis with a ketogenic diet

>inb4 "muh high fat"
>"but muh cholesterol"
>"but muh brain needs carbs!!!111"

>>133667839
This

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>>133696433
what supplements would u suggest for growing hairline back

>>133665660
t. virgin fapping to anime girls

>>133709542
I lowered my intake of saturated fats. I use isoflavones, flax lignans extract, red clover isoflavones, hops extract, astaxanthin, and resveratrol.
Make your own pills. Buy bulk powders off NutriCargo and Bad Monkey Botanicals or aliexpress.

>>133709047

quality over quantity you low-t little bitch nu-male

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>going through extreme lifestyle changes to boost testosterone levels by 5%

Why don't you just get a fucking prescription for TRT? If you don't like needles, just get those fucking patches you put on your skin.

If you may want kids in the future, just freeze your sperm.

Currently on 200mg/week, and I don't think I'll ever go off. I feel like a god, I don't need to wear rubber with my girlfriend and I have a good body with medium effort.

Life gave me a cheat code. I chose to toss society's ideas of "muh morals" out the window and use it.

>>133708810
>getting 500g chorizo, 1.5kg pork shoulder, 12 eggs and some other shit for just over $20
>not paying at least twice that

America I swear to god

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>>133665305
>1940+77
>Doesn't smoke rööki

>>133708810
>QFC
monica

>>133710146
My dick is already hard for breakfast.

Eggs and chorizo is god tier.

I'm going to wake and bake with legal bud, grind some fresh coffee beans, and chow down.

Is the rest of the world even trying?

>>133709794
how bad will they kill my dick

also whats the best 2 i can take i dont want to take more than 2 im not bald yet i just noticed its going

>>133710443
Got me, QFC.

Chandler?

>>133710536
I am "sterile" probably. My jizz is clear anyway. But orgams are quite a bit better lol
Flax lignans are what you're going to have to take when you're 40+ years old anyway
I take them in like huge extract dosages though. I kind of purposefully lowered my T lol