What are the best degrees

Biomedical Engineering

Sociology & psychology, the hardest sciences

Fixing things, a mechanic, electricion, plumber/pipefitter who knows there shit and served a proper apprenticeship cannot be beat.

>>133660061
Anything that'll have you involved with building infrastructure or producing weapons systems

I'd rather like to know what trades have a high room for growth and what certs are worth it

nursing, childcare or cooking if you're a woman

>>133660061

What for? Either You'll die alone or your "wife" will cheat on you and grab all what you worked for.

Learn to do hero, that's the way to go.

>>133660694
So you can eat, have a nice house, and car you dumbass nigga.

>>133660061

Start a company that specializes in liquidation of assets. The retail industry is declining and will do so for the foreseeable future.

>>133660061
Social Justice Degree


Now how bout you show us those tits

>>133660061
Fuck careers. Entrepreneurship or death.

>>133660061

I also recommend a field that has to do with geriatric healthcare. The proportion of old people in the United States is going to increase cuz' no one having babies :(

>>133660061
computer science

any engineering

medicine

All other answers are fake news.

Cant someone give me a quick rundown on accounting major?

>>133661021
what does that even mean? borrow money?

>>133661252
automated https://www.wired.com/2017/02/robots-will-soon-taxes-bye-bye-accounting-jobs/

Going to study International Relations + Economics, come at me h8ers

>>133661074
>>133661074
Not a woman you downie.

>>133661245
Is Computer and Information Systems good for a software engineering job?

>>133661306
Please archive it
https://archive.is/d61ev

>>133660061
Is... is that banana bitch?

>>133660061
None, learn a trade.

>>133661266
It means selling stuff that bankrupt companies and people used to own.

>>133661332
Is it a BSc?

>>133661351
KYS

>>133661372
This guy has a room temperature IQ.

Trades are good
STEM is pretty good if it doesn't involve computers
I'm going to be a shop teacher because there's little job competition these days and I like having summers off.

>>133661351
>Reply within 15 seconds
Norbot confirmed

>>133660971

>Live as cuck

Yeah, such a nice advice.

>>133661351
Damn dude you're everywhere

We all appreciate your public service

>>133661351
Hey faggot. Read this article.

https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl

>>133661439
>This guy has a room temperature IQ.
Because I advise against people making a high investment low reward choice?

>>133660694
>>133660971
Yeahh, you dumb fucking nigger

I have a degree in Management in the Arts.

What the fuck am I doing...

>>133661459
Okay m8 enjoy killing yourself when your parents die and not being an independent adult that can take care of himself.

>>133660061
Self Study degree in any hard science or business.

Most businesses don't trust university degrees anymore as the people who come out of those are practically braindead and lack any critical thinking or problem solving skills, there are exceptions of course

>>133661584
>high investment
University is dirt cheap in Canada. Less than 10,000 USD per year.

>>133660061
>Falling for the stem meme
Art is a dying field so you want an art history degrees for when it rebounds otherwise English degree since it's versatile.

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>>133661599
>I have a degree in Management in the Arts.

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>>133661444

>>133660061
>economical crisis
The greatest meme ever conjured by the right. The economy is doing well, just not for uneducated white trash or inner-city blacks

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>>133660061
welding

>>133661444
Pls make sure that the young men of the class actually graduate with an abillity to produce with their own hands more than just crudly shaped bongs and dildos

>>133661669
>University is dirt cheap in Canada. Less than 10,000 USD per year.
So at the end you're already 40,000USD in debt with 4 years (and that's the ideal scenario, let me remind you) of your life gone.

Man, people that choose this over no debt, an income and years of field related job experience sure must be smart.

Im thinking aeronotics or geology?

>>133662133
its called having parents and grandparents who have been successful pay for it

sorry you come from a shitty lineage

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>>133660694
>wife
>Current year

anon...

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>>133660411
You're not helping the stereotype that blue collar workers are dull.

Computer Science

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>>133661252

This guy >>133661306 is only half right. Lower-level jobs such as Accounts payable clerks and general bookkeepers may be automated, but higher-level accounting, such as that which requires the CPA and CMA certifications won't be going anywhere anytime soon. His article didn't list any numbers and was just "muh AI," so here are some stats from the BLS:

>https://www.bls.gov/ooh/business-and-financial/accountants-and-auditors.htm

>Employment of accountants and auditors is projected to grow 11 percent from 2014 to 2024, faster than the average for all occupations.
>In general, employment growth of accountants and auditors is expected to be closely tied to the health of the overall economy. As the economy grows, more workers should be needed to prepare and examine financial records.

With the economy on the upswing, things are looking great for the profession. I know there's only so much you can trust anecdotal evidence, but I had a job offer in my hand at the beginning of my senior year, studying for the CPA now.

Dual major in mathematics and chemistry

Just graduated and have a job already

What would the best degree be here:

Computer and Information Systems -> Software Engineer

Business Admin conc. In Finance -> Government job

Electrician Associates -> Electrian

>>133662302
So 1) you're a complete failure that can't manage to build a life for himself and 2) too stupid to use that available capital to invest into something more profitable than a degree.

Man, I sure wish I could be this smart.

>>133660411
Not a bad idea, can make 100k a year as a plumber or sheet metal worker if you get good overtime

>>133662989
Sadly not at IG Farben

>>133661917
I definitely plan to. If this whole "Gen Z is redpilled" thing is true, then I want to help guide them. If it's not, then maybe I can undo some of the damage. Either way, those little shots are gonna learn to make a goddamned bird house.

>>133663175
>you're a complete failure that can't manage to build a life for himself
Wut? based on what? because I chose to get a STEM degree instead of go into trade school?
I would have btw if I didn't have to opportunity to attend debt free. And no, I wouldn't be able to just use that money to "invest." But I'll have 5+ jobs waiting when I graduate since I didn't pick a meme degree and am not retarded with math and computers.

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>>133662837

Forgot to mention how versatile the major is. Learning the theory behind bookkeeping and good accounting practices carries over into other business professions such as management, international strategy (i.e.: tax planning as one example), marketing and entrepreneurship (i.e.: knowing how to account for a small business if you choose to start one) so you're a more well-rounded businessman.

Put another way, it's easy for an accountant to become a middle-manager, but asking a middle-manager with a marketing degree to become an accountant is much more difficult.

>>133663568
>Wut? based on what?
The proud reliance on daddy's money here >>133662302
>And no, I wouldn't be able to just use that money to "invest."
Yes, like I said.

>>133660061
plc and motor controls

Nursing degrees make a pretty good living and you don't necessarily have to do bed-side nursing. I have a friend w/ BSN and she works arranging home health shit for old people (office job, always on vacations) and she makes like $120k/yr.

I'm considering that myself although I'd rather be an MD but I'm 27 and haven't even finished my AA yet due to poor choices when I was younger.

/sigh

>>133660411
>1 post by this ID
What a surprise

Do YOU do one of those things?

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> Having a KEKreer in 2017

INB4 employer lays you off after 20 years hard work
INB4 cutting your balls off for your boss
INB4 spend you whole life doing something you don't want to do
INB4 having to spend your whole life in an inhumane cubicle


No thanks. I'd rather die.

>>133660335
How easy would it be to do one of these courses if I spent the next half year reading philosophy books? I don't have much formal qualification, but I'm easily the smartest person I know.

>>133664404
Fairly easy for you because you sound autistic as fuck.

>>133660171
I have mine in Clinical Engineering, and can confirm that it's an excellent career- even if you only use it for maintenance rather than design.
also-
>>133660061
why the fuck do you have a picture of my ex-wife Rachel

Culinary Arts.

Best backup plan you could ever have

>>133664574
>you sound autistic as fuck
Lol. How so?

>>133664697
> "I'm easily the smartest person I know"

>>133664651
what do you think of getting in the field with a 2 year degree

>>133664790
I am though. I might be slightly biased.

>>133660061
Military, this way you can do the raping.

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>>133660061
Everything in STEM.

If you're doing anything outside of STEM, then please do the world a favor and off yourself you subhuman brainlets.

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>>133664690
Do anything but listen to this asshole's advice. Culinary degree is worth absolutely nothing. Any moron can cook. No manager gives a fuck about your culinary degree and will hire a beaner to do the job rather than pay the markup you think you deserve because of that useless paper. Learn something useful.

t. Worked in restaurants for years

Someone give me a rundown on computer science plz

>>133662133
Leaning a trade in a recession is a waste of time, trades are the first to be laid off when everything goes to shit and nobody is accepting apprentices when the economy is slow

t. trade school student who graduated into a recession and only found an apprenticeship after 27 months of searching

2 years in trade school and then 2 years job hunting to make $23/h as a first year apprentice...not worth it. In those 4 years I could have got a CS degree and be making 60k+ starting

>>133661245
>comp sci
Completely terrible degree. A lot of hiring opportunities but the pay cap is extremely low for the amount of work you have to do and you have to compete with pajeet for positions. The money in computers has moved towards hardware and managing networks, as companies are content at the moment with hiring third world programmers to make a steaming pile of shit and then hiring one senior programmer at the end to come and clean everything up.

>>133661332
>computer and information systems good for software engineering
Impossible to tell without the syllabus.

>>133660061
Lots of great things to study. The key is finding something that can survive the ups and downs of the different markets.

Don't bet all your money on any particular industry being great. Be able and willing to move around between industries and pick a field of study that can survive that.

For example: in a great oil market a petroleum engineer can make more than an electrical engineer. But when that market swings down, so does their paycheck. And because they don't have a great number of prospects available, a lot of companies won't hire petroleum engineers in a pinch. This is because it's obvious that they will leave the minute the market swings back up.

Good majors are the ones that are in many markets. If your major is needed somewhere for national defense/security in any way shape or form, chances are you will be okay.

Does anyone go for MD degree anymore or is it just a total waste of money/time?

I have tough time wrapping my head around the amount of debt I'd have to take on to do this.

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i got a useless bachelor of arts in political science from a state school

what jobs/careers can I realistically pursue

I'm no expert but most engineering degrees, BS in business with as many internships (important) as you can since business related jobs value experience more than anyone, a more specific business degree would be valued also, like finance or accounting. Medical school is also a good bet.

>Engineering

Yeah right. Thats why most end up programing or in marketing.

>>133666172
Law enforcement if you're not a fuckup

>>133660171
>>133661245
>>133662635
>>133665763
How good are the prospects for someone going into Bioinformatics?

Anything Computer related i would say, all my mates at uni who did courses like that went straight into fairly well paying jobs once finishing.

>>133660411
i know several people that can make $1000 a day pumping septic tanks. i know how much i had to pay them when my tank stopped up. it also doesn't smell bad like you think.

>>133667023
This too

>>133666023
Don't do it

>>133666805
Depends on your skills/internship experience mostly

>>133660171
>t.jc denton

>>133662068

Holy shit nice bead Anon. Is that an automatic weld? If tig then I will give you three of my best niggers for your stable

>>133667712
Can you elaborate on this? Is it simply because of the debt or is it not rewarding? Everyone seems to be saying medical field is a safe bet but I don't want to be miserable.

>>133669121
Debt is terrible and if you're 27 it's not worth it. I was 22 and having med school interviews (multiple top 15 places) backed out when I looked at the big picture. And you're 5 years older. Also consider that your history may make it more or less a tougher process than what I had. GL anon

I've just turned 18
I'm thinking about going to University next year
Would a major in physics and minor in zoology or biology be algoods?
Gives me valuable understanding of how the universe works, and gives me insight into our fellow creatures that inhabit this planet
There would be job opportunities because I would have important abstract thinking skills from physics, and having a minor in zoology or biology shows that I'm not a soulless STEMlord automaton

>>133660171
I'm a premed biomedical engineering major. I'm doing an internship right now and I'll be getting royalties for the next ten years off a product I helped develop. Hopefully it'll pay for med school

>>133669444
Are you Chinese? I am getting a strong foreign vibe from your post despite your digits

>>133669324
Ok thanks anon. I wasn't arrested or anything retarded, just spent all my money on getting fucked up instead of focusing on school.

Fuck that debt though.

>>133669444
>picking a minor that has nothing to do with your major
You may as well minor in fingerpainting.

>>133666172
The exact same jobs/careers as someone who didn't go to school at all. Good job.
>t. Top graduate in POLS, now self-taught programmer.

>>133665241
word. Biggest kek of my life is this guy I went to high school with went to a Private Culinary School out of state. Racks up 100k in debt. Muh i cant pay my loans on chef's wages.

>>133660061
You already have your Ph.D. in gender studies from being a 4chan famous tranny, rose

>>133666172
Why didn't you apply to law school?
>>133669444
Get an MD, you'll make 500k starting as a surgeon

>>133664310
What do you do for money? How do you survive? Is it only NEETs posting shit like this?

>>133668040
chew you have a singlelicious satifact to snack that up?

>>133669579
I'm Anglo, my ancestors settled NZ a looooooong time ago
Why would you think I'm Chinese?

>>133670063
I hate most humans though
I would love to massively depopulate the planet of humans, I'm not interested in saving people

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From what I've seen online every degree has people saying its useful and people saying its useless.

Just do what you love.

>>133669913
Too funny. Culinary school is the biggest fraud. I'm in FL and worked in kitchens in high school and we would get a constant stream or applicants from the "Le Cordon Bleu" school up the road who were applying to work elbow to elbow with a kitchen full of high schoolers and spics.

>what do you mean $8/hr?? I went to culinary school!

Morons. A few years later the feds shut the school down for ripping off poor rubes.

>>133660061

Best degree is a vocational certification that teaches you real skills to fix or make things, which greatly increase your chances of owning your own business down the road.

By all means though, pay $50k for a degree so you can get a $40k a year job and hopefully retire making $65k a year, which the vocationally educated person will be making after 5 years and be his own boss the whole time.

>>133661332
>Information Systems
Complete meme degree you barely learn to code, learn a little bit about systems analyst jargon, and a tiny bit of database shit. Nothing in depth enough in any area of IT to prepare you for a job in todays fucked up job market where companies all expect years of experience in multiple fields
T. Information systems graduate who has been looking for work the past 6 months after graduating in April

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Civil engineer turned architectural engineer here. Once you get a PE it's great!

I'm in Texas just vacation in iceland.

>>133669444
Your post is too cringey for me.
>Gives me valuable understanding of how the universe works
Nobody cares. Physics graduates work with money for banks, traders or get put into think tanks to talk about money.

>gives me insight into our fellow creatures that inhabit this planet
>having a minor in zoology or biology shows that I'm not a soulless STEMlord automaton
People that hire other people don't care if you're soulless. In fact, it would be a benefit because you're going to go and work in a bank. If you want to give off the impression that you have a soul, lie about doing some community work or volunteering at an animal shelter. Or better yet, go and do those things. It doesn't make sense to waste the money you're spending on education to give yourself a degree thats worth less than your peers, because you wanted to give off the impression that you have a soul to people that only give a fuck if you can make the money flow.

>There would be job opportunities because I would have important abstract thinking skills from physics,
No. There are job opportunities because you're good at maths.

>>133670274
>I would love to massively depopulate the planet of humans,
Fag. If you want to do this, go and study biochemical engineering and go and make something truly destructive.

>>133666805
Not that good , minoring in it tho is

>>133664191
I do rough carpentry, window replacements and trim work. Have framed out over 100 homes in my state. I make decent money for the time being but I don't think I could properly retire living this way.

>>133670274
Why? Saving people is a natural evolutionary feeling all humans have. You're lying to yourself, you just don't want to put in the hard work.

>>133671638

>>133670859
Did you decide not to gain any experience on your own? Everything you learn in IT courses can be learned online with more depth and detail. You should have been using da compootah to supplement your education, especially if you felt like you weren't gaining the skills necessary for employment.

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law, trust me

Trump is pushing trade schools because they aren't yet infested with liberal scum like the universities and traditional colleges. And the country will need more young people who can work with their hands after our relationship with China sours.

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Switched my major from Computer Science to Cybersecurity/InfoSec...did I fuck up?

>>133671638
Oh ok, I realize now that employers don't care about how soulless you are
I still care deeply though about fellow species on my planet and would like to have more understanding about them

btw isn't physics basically applied math? That's what I was told by math teacher

>>133672461
Dude, I'm Anglo
We are different from other folk because we are individualistic as fuck
I'm prepared for hard work, but what's the point of working hard to save a species I want massive culling and sterilization for?

>>133671638
what's the point of creating something to destroy a whole lot of people in one area?
That's just going to scratch the population of humanity
It will have to be global militaries cooperating to systematically round up and slaughter or sterilize people worldwide

>>133660061
Trades school.

Is Gunsmith a good choice?

>>133673226
>i hate people and want to contribute to genocide
>i care about my species and want to learn more about it

t. Retarded child

>>133660171
>>133660335
Biomedical engineering and other sciences will eventually be automated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_Scientist

>>133675058
When I said fellow species, I meant species other than humans you moron

>>133670859
Holy shit, are you me? I've really regretted choosing IT over Computer Science. I spent a year after graduating looking for a job before I just settled for a basic office job. Still trying to look for some entry-level programming work so I can finally escape this shitty job.

>>133661252
Almost all of it can be automated easily.

>>133675641
You sound like an edgy idiot, Chang

>>133673226
>what's the point of working hard to save a species I want massive culling and sterilization for
You're not saving evil people, you're saving kids who have diseases or elderly people who need brain surgery. Why do you hate innocent humans?

If you like mechanical shit/electronics go into aircraft maintenance. Basically sideways 8 amount of jobs around that all pay well if you arent retarded. A lot of them pay you to travel and give you money to spend while youre away so you hardly ever have to touch your actual paycheck.

>>133675060
Everything will be automated eventually. The best thing to do would be to get a well paying job(doesn't matter what), buy a good plot of land out in the boonies, and attend a couple of survival tactics workshops and become friendly, if not outright join, the local militia.

>>133673569

He didn't say it would just be in one area did he?

>biochemical engineering

implying something like a supervirus

>>133660061
None. There are no good degrees anymore unless you need to go into something highly specialised. The education you can receive for MOST things is available online. Just find a curriculum for an Oxford course, or something, and then do it yourself.

Unless you need to do something highly specific, and you need a piece of paper to show, then don't do it. Learn a trade so you can make enough money to do that university thing in your spare time.

>>133660061

what you need is a SKILL that is in high demand by CORPORATIONS

to enter the job market, you'll need to prove you have said skills, by mainly three means: either a hard/prestigious degree (like engineering), a certification (like financial planning) or an actual track record (like in sales)

you don't want to be self-employed, you gotta work for a corporation if you want to make a decent salary, have decent benefits and don't run too many risks

now to narrow down the options the most important factor by far to consider is LOCATION, people usually choose something they "like" and then struggle to find a job where they are or have to move across the country, my advice is to go the other way around, find out where you want to live first, then see what industries are in the area, look up a job you think you'd like and now you have a clear set of skills to pursue and improve on, this is a straightforward path to becoming a marketable person and let's be honest, the place where you live will probably have as much or even more weight in how much you enjoy your life than what you do in your work day to day

having said that, there are a few skill sets that are hard to acquire and apply to almost every industry (like sales); skill sets that are hard to acquire but are too especialized (engineering); skill sets that are easier to acquire and apply to almost every industry (like management); and skill sets that are easier to acquire but are too especialized (like HVAC repair); this is listed in decreasing order for expectancy of more job opportunities, meaning if you are a good salesman you'll literally have people begging you to work for them, but a good HVAC repairman would hardly find himself without a job

note that some degrees won't provide you with a skill set at all (like many of the humanities and even generic business degrees) while other skill sets can be learned without leaving your computer chair (like graphic design)

>>133679814
ill be honest. i have no idea where i want to live. I cant go to california or some shit for that legalized weed because of my job. At least until it becomes federally legal and even then, im not sure if ill be able to or not. I like the idea of having a job for a few years to get some experience and travel and see what parts of the country/world i like since my family was poor and we couldnt really travel too far other than to see some family in a different state. Ive only been in PA and NC. i wanna see whats out there and then decide where i want to live.

>>133661074
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/GreatTit002.jpg

>>133680803

I see. The safest way to achieve that would be to become a good salesman, but that's no trivial thing. Some would say it's impossible if you don't have it in you. But sales people are on the road a lot, and even if you are a car salesman (which can pay a lot) it's easy to hop from one city to the next, as long as your former employer can vouch for you.

Another way is to become a location independent freelancer, doing shit like web design, or set up an online business (blog, e-store, etc.). As long as you have an internet connection available, you are working, and you can do it from coffee shops all around the country (world even). The problem here is that it's a very crowded space, and the people that succeed have to usually spend 2~3 years making almost nothing before getting on their feet.

>>133676094
I'm Anglo

>>133677505
They would quickly find a cure for that
Unless I would make a virus or pathogen that lies dormant for a period of time, so it can spread around the world quickly before it starts attacking people's immune systems or something

>>133682824
i worked at a gas station for a few years while i was in school and it actually was a good experience. I learned how to talk to people and sort of "make" them like me. I dont think im a salesman but i could play the game.

>>133662482
I am one.
I agree, most of them are fucking brain dead.
But I dont really have to speak to them other than for the stuff we do so its ok.

>>133660061
Majoring in political science, minor in legal studies. Going to enter into the seminary after graduation.

If Seminary doesn't work out, I have the wits for law school so I can still have a positive impact on society in some way.

>>133684137
Yesterday a salesman looking guy came to my door and I said I dont like salesman He said I am not a salesman I said ok, shaked his hand. I am here for X insurance compagny can I get in^
No
> Proceed to close the door.

I hope this doesn't demotivate you.

>>133684631
well. i dont plan on becoming a salesman. i plan on staying with aircraft maintenance because i like it, make decent money and my parents would castrate me if for whatever reason i was like. "im gonna stop this to be a salesman"
>college aubig

>>133684942

you can probably work your way to a more managerial position inside whatever company you're working for right now and from there you can work on getting into a business relations position (i.e. dealing with suppliers and customers, like sales but even better since you're dealing with companies not the public) which will probably get you plenty around the country

>>133666805
Huge oversupply of workers in bioinformatics. O'Reilly Publishing beat the BI drum loud for two decades, which lured in relatively large numbers of students and the self taught into the field. As a result, there's been a glut of workers for at least ten years.

>>133666023
I work around a few older doctors and I've asked them each what they thought about getting an MD in this day and age, their general idea is that the young men who come out of the programs are so crushed by debt and the disillusionment of what the job actually entails that many of them spiral into depression. But they have to keep doing it because how else are you going to pay off those debt bills?

>>133660061
Sauce

>>133660061
ahah higher education is a hoax

>>133671232
I'm finally getting my act together 4 years after separating from the military, I'm going to use my G.I. Bill and aim myself at Civil Engineering. Starting with no math background, do you have any suggestions? Is it as good as I hope?

>>133660061

Business because you can always get a job
Any kind of trade degree so you can get a vocation

>>133661351
why archive shit thread ?

>>133660061

>best careers and majors in this time of political and economical crisis

kek, it has nothing to do with your career or your major

it has everything to do with your ability to be alert, to be strong and courageous, to fight if necessary, to escape when necessary, to adapt, etc.

>>133687748

>Starting with no math background

khanacademy.org

>>133660061
Sauce in this pic. Need it for burp fetish reasons

>>133689165
My gf advised this last night as well, she's working on her masters in mathematics. She doesn't really know that she's my gf yet, still working on that one.

>>133675060
Like that shit is happening anytime soon.

>>133660061
Is chemical engineering an ok path? When I graduated high school I had no idea what I wanted to do so I basically chose that at random. The way I see it is you can do:

B.S. -> industry ->masters ->industry (pharma, cosmetics, oil etc.)
or
B.S. -> med school -> medical profession of choosing
or
B.S. -> non meme tier law school -> IP attorney
or
banking internship + CFA + finance minor-> B.S. -> banking job

or am I completely wrong here?

>>133689284
Binge drinking to death grips on youtube

>>133689751

It's not the quickest way to learn Math, but it's a fireproof way. Even if you have no talent for it, if you watch all videos and master all exercises from the very beginning, you'll end up learning Math. But it has to be from the beginning, Math is about learning the building blocks and practicing to enhance your problem solving skills.

I used it in my first semester of college to fill the holes in my high school education and get me through calc. I, it was the first time in my life that I didn't struggle with math. Watched all the videos in double the speed and mastered all the exercises, took me about the entire semester.

>>133690781
Thanks sir

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>>133666000
nice digits

I'm majoring in computer art animation, what am I in for?

>>133666000

>Good majors are the ones that are in many markets. If your major is needed somewhere for national defense/security in any way shape or form, chances are you will be okay.

Thank you anon, I feel reassured about picking International Relations

>>133662482
>der

Go STEM. Degrees and fields. Not even a question.

I got a meme degree (Communication) and lucked out by getting a decent job at the corporate office of the place I worked at during college. It's a cool ass job and it pays well, but I'm probably one of the 1% of non STEM graduates. Meanwhile my computer science buddies effortlessly make 20k more a year than I do, and I make pretty good money for being 6 months out of college. I don't necessarily regret my choice but I'd have gone STEM if I could go back in time.

>>133661252
Everyone else responding to you does not know shit about the field. If you go in accounting, ONLY stay in it for around 4 years and transfer out with an MBA. It will be automated, but not for a while.

>>133661332
Information Systems is literally discount comp sci. Its more for people who will spend their lives plugging shit in for other people.

>>133692197
unemployment

Philosophy or Business.

Or STEM field to work under someone and make bank. Philosophy and Business however allow you to make your own way in life.

>ctrl + f
>"farm"
>0 results
>"jail"
>0 results
>"hair"
>0 results
>"gun"
>1 result
At least one of you isn't retarded.

>>133660061

Stem

PharmD, got first job easily and simple to change workplaces they essentially want you. 100k/year + or can chill at low hours will still good pay

>>133690545
What do you enjoy doing in life? idk about STEM, but do not practice law unless you want to be a lawyer. Also, why would you major in chemical engineering if you want to go into finance after undergrad.

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>>133695445
>Philosophy major
>make your own way in life

>>133661660
Dude 0/20. You are not even trying.

>>133687748
Hire a private tutor to teach you the basics and get you a good foundation. Take classes at a CC and then apply to a uni once you've got to calc. Then get your civil engineering degree and masters if you want to. You might get military scholarships.

>>133660061
Social Design

>>133660061
1. engineering
2. economics/business
3. literally any trade
4. enjoy being drafted and fighting on the front lines because you have no useful skills

What do you guys think of psychology PhDs?
I hear there's a lot of work in schools and corporations since the company's are all about muh mental health nowadays
And if that fails can always go private

>>133666805
There's like a few jobs in academia but good luck competing with people who have 5+ years experience and PhDs

>>133663773
What's the problem? The guy won the lottery as far as having family who can support him and the intellect to follow through on it. He took the opportunity instead of being a useless NEET or becoming a plumber. His specialization is more rare and needed than most trades. Not really seeing what problem you would have with this other than some kind of envy for not having been afforded the same opportunities in life or maybe just wanting to feel like your chosen path is superior to all others. Maybe it is the best option for you, but not necessarily everyone else. That's one inherent flaw with true fascism. It rules out potentially superior possibilities along with the shitty ones.

>>133695832
If you can get a number of clients, yes private practice will pay way more than an engineering major ever will

>>133662482
it is really really hard fucking work and sucks
you are so right only an idiot would pursue manual labor

>>133670717
haha I worked with one of these people. She didn't last long. Shouldn't the be working in 5 star restaurants or something though?

>>133666023
MD is not a waste. 4 years of med school + 4-5 years of residency then you make 300k-700k/yr for the next 70 years of your life, debt is not hard to pay off. You'll only have to worry about debt if you go into family medicine, psychiatry, or internal medicine (these are the easiest fields).

>>133695832
You don't even need a doctorates. Just get a masters of social work and work for a private practice making 40+ an hour. There's always someone that is triggered, even more so in this political climate. Just be their emotional tampon and don't let it get to you on a personal level, those are their problems.

>>133696192
You need a phd to become a psychologist. Before that, you are a counselor

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>it's a wageslave thread

truly the most contained out of containment boards

please dish out more fantasies about working a corporate job and then retiring to bumfuckhome white man

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>>133665113
Investment Banking is better than STEM

>>133696440
How does it feel working those 100 hour weeks while the kikes make more in a conference call then you do in an entire year?

>>133696528
Still make way more than your average goy

>>133660061
Industrial Engineering Degree; lots of growth opportunity if you are willing to put in the time

>start out at 75k
pretty mid-tier for

>3 years in at 106k
Promotions on promotions for optimizing flow

>5 years in at 140k
Became a manager due to my understanding of how all the systems of manufacturing/purchasing/supply chain all come together

>>133660335
Literally the easiest out there if you can play the game. Lots of liberal scum in both these fields. Be prepared to suppress your own thoughts on things.

>>133660061
My degrees are: BS Finance, BS Economics, MS Statistics, MBA. Did CFA exams. Made 200k + equity and signing bonus out of grad school.

>>133696636
When you are working 16-20 hour shifts, how can you enjoy it?

>>133696240
I know, I'm saying you can do fine without the doctorates and it's still in the same area.

If money is the only motivator then might as well be a psychiatrist.

>>133696758
Just enjoy the numbers and the people

>>133696754
What B school?
>>133696818
BB,MM, or Boutique

>>133660061
Mechanical Engineering and Geology have the highest incomes from a Bachelor's degree. Physics is pretty good, too.

>>133697077
Wisconsin-Madison.

>>133660061
trades. no question.

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The robots will only suppliment law enforcement not replace LEO.
benefits are good, career is secure.
What more can you ask for?

>>133697147
I remember you from a /biz/ thread. Credit Suisse?

>>133697077
BB. university of waterloo

>>133697165
applesauce.

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Currently studying Civil Engineering at college. Am a working member of the carpenter's union. Enrolled in Auto Mechanics at a local trade school.

AMA

>>133660061
gov jobs and retail/bartending. That's all you can hope for.

Forget about the 4.5% unemployment bullshit from bullshit labor statistics. It's 20%+

>>133669505
Good luck with that anon, Im a first year med student and ill be looking at 273k in loans by the time i finish

>>133660061
Digital Marketing is actually pretty legit and not many people know about it, you can become an expert in your field then you'll get popular because nobody sells shit on the internet without your elite skills. Only downsides are sorta low pay tbqh and you need to be a creative person and not everyone can do that.

>>133664061
I thought about it and once I considered that manly jobs such as Plumber and Pipefitter clean poop, even if I had to do so as a nurse it would be fine then.

>>133665241
Its the ultimate "full ride only" degree. Well, except for doctor lol. Seriously though, its a pretty well respected job, you can get mad puh by cooking women dinners and you can make cookbooks and start your own place then it becomes Cooked by: Chef Anon and you become a celebrity.

Of course for 99.9% of people its bullshit.

>>133669324
Just whatever you do don't fall for the Physician Assistant meme. So many already did it, we are heading for a bubble burst, 100K will be 60K in 10 years.

>>133672969
Sounds dope tbqh I was thinking of minoring in Marketing then being like Steve Jobs and making the mainstream Apple-type Infosec company millions of people want. I'd just find a Wozniak that has the hardcore programming skills to make a proprietary software.

>>133690545
If you can be so flippant about your future then don't do med school, do nursing then switch into med school but its really really hard work.

>>133694433
People talk so much shit about Comm but the grads always find a way...maybe because they really don't GAF they just fit in.

>>133695541
Dope shit bro, I heard it might be oversaturated but honestly its a dream job for me but gave up on it but you gave me new hope, I want to start a MJ dispensary and it would be super legit because a Pharmacist ran it. I'd make millions per year.

>>133661917
>The economy is doing well

>Median millenial salary across US - $24 000
>Median american salary across US - $30 000
>20%+ unemployment
>Amount of manufacturing jobs still below 2008 levels
>The only job growth we saw was in bartending/waitress jobs
>STEM has oversupply of PhDs, Masters, Bachelors etc and hire chemists for as cheap as $12/h

Yeah nigger, tell me more how this economy is fucking wonderful.

Finance
Medicine
Any engineering
Marketing
Software

>>133660061
None. Degrees are worthless.

>>133662989
If you are in the US, I smell some bullshit in your post.

>>133698339
What specialty are you looking to go into?

African -American or Women's studies

>>133675933
>>133670859
Oh shit i'm half way through my IT degree. should I kill myself?

>>133665113
>leaf poster
>STEM meme

Can we just nuke Canada already?

This might not be a popular answer, but I chose to get certified to teach high school and it's been working out well for me so far.

A couple of reasons why I'd suggest it:
1. School districts like to hire guys, since there is a shortage of male teachers and we get better results from students.
2. If you're smart, the job can be a lot comfier than you'd think. Most teachers graduated in the bottom third of their class; if you're far above that average, you can have your pick of school districts, classes, etc.
3. The pay isn't stellar, but it can be pretty decent. Chances are, there's a lot of variance in pay in your state. You can find the highest paying district and focus your efforts on getting hired there. After a couple of years experience and continuing your education, you can have a very good salary.
4. You get to red pill kids and they LOVE IT.

I finished my master's degree in UX design this year. No prior work experience and grades are just ok, yet I got 5 good job offers and I'm pretty sure I would have gotten 2 more if I had more time. Now I make 60k with amazing benefits for my first job.

>>133669444

Honestly our job market is fucking terrible at the moment. I did a BE(Hons) and it took me 7 months to find an engineering job, and that was only due to having a friend who worked there.

If you can do medicine, or have high grades in law you are sorted. You need to have contacts to succeed in STEM or business, and you need to be a suckup to succeed anywhere else. If you want money, do a trade. Electricians make shitloads and are in short supply.

If you're interested in something, by all means learn it - there's just no point in paying 8k + cost of living per year for a piece of paper that isn't going to make you any more employable. BSc in physics and zoology will do nothing for you unless you intend to follow up in teaching.

Become a farmer, work the land with your hands the way your ancestors did. College is dishonorable.

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I'm going for Sound and Recording Technology, fuck off with that STEM shit. I'm going for something I'm skilled in and genuinely enjoy. It's also a great way to make friends and go on small business ventures. Some retards believe that they can just go to class, get their degree and not network with anybody. Are you fucking dumb? Even if you go for the highest that a STEM degree can give you, you'll still need a leg in the front door. Make friends you social outcasts.

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>>133664310
Be a truck driver with me anon!

Would a bachelors in geology and a master in natural resource economics be a good idea?

>>133666805
you won't find a job in bioinformatics, you will after you bite the bullet and complete a masters in cs with your bsc

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>>133660061
The three most important degrees a man can get are those that earn him the steps and rites of Freemasonry.

>>133703342
Maybe, depends on your tolerance for being out in nature a lot. You're much better off doing a masters in geophysics if you wanna make good money in geology.

Majoring in Math with no plans for higher education. What do I do with a bachelor's in math if I just want to make money?

>>133703666
Nice trips
I would tolerate being outside lol and depends on what you do with geophysics, analyst at seismic networks don't get paid that much, source: working on a seismic network myself

>>133662136
Geoscience is pretty diverse

tfw spent 7 years majoring a course i didnt like and im about to drop out

usual 4 years + 3 postponing my final paper

>>133703809
Go into investment banking

>>133703525
Both my grandpa and uncle were freemasons. Both died before I could ask how to join. Uncle owned a shit ton of farmland and cattle, at his funeral there were tons of freemasons and he was buried in a vault. That was the weirdest funeral I went to.

>>133661174
the baby boom was an aberration. population decline is a return to normal.

>>133705339
I don't go to a top school and don't have a 4.0, I'd be very interested in persuing a career like that if I could. Do I have hope?

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>>133660061

Computer Science. Neural networks are going to overlap with every facet of life in the very near future, and every trade is going to require some level of programming knowledge.

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Walmart.

I survived one recession, time to bring on the next.

>>133701557
Is there a future in robotics in NZ?
Since half of jobs are going to be replaced by robots in NZ in the future, wouldn't learning to create robots be a good job for the future?
What about conservation work? All our animals are nearly extinct so there should be lots of jobs for saving them

>>133701557
Also what about deep sea exploration work?
NZ is surrounded by uncharted ocean depths
Who knows what lurks in our oceans

>>133660061
tfw taking civil engineering n bcom
life is hell

>>133661245
Engineering fucking tanked here.

Thousands of engineers without a job after the oil sector collapsed.

>>133706370
maybe, if you're motivated and legitimately interested in finance you can work your way up by doing small time gigs in small firms and go into private equity in like 7-8 years if you are truly above the pack

getting hired at an IB is a longshot for you. to get hired straight out of school you need 2 of:
-top 5 school that IBs recruit from
-high GPA
-networking and connections
-charisma and very high social ability to interview extremely well

>>133708259
>>133708342

I did my degree in mechatronics which is a pretty safe bet considering the future of automation and all that. Ended up working in systems engineering which is cool too I guess.

Conservation would be rewarding and enjoyable, if I weren't such an autist I'd probably have gone for a career in that. There'd be few things more fulfilling than being paid to spend your time in our national parks if you're into that sort of thing. I know of a few people in the industry, they all got their jobs because of internships they did at uni - so if you go for that, do internships.

Oceans can go and fuck themselves, they're shit. Again, careers are pretty limited too, the best bet in this field would be working with oil or mineral exploration companies, which is something you might not care for if you're into conservation and the like

>>133660061
If I could go back I would choose geology or crop/plant science as crazy as it sounds. I want a job where I spend lots of time outdoors and moving. The job I have is nice pay, but all computer work.

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>>133709530
Why don't you like oceans?
There are heaps of cool ayylmao's down there

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>21 years old
>Bachelor's degree in Biology
>No idea what to do, biology seems like a dead end field nowadays

Not all STEMs are created equal, gang.

>tfw nearing 30 and no education
being 95 iq truly sucks

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>>133660171

Biomed is for those not good enough to get into medicine first time

>>133710128

I just don't like oceans. You can never see the end of them. I look out over the pacific and its terrifying, knowing that if I were to set out in a straight line it'd be thousands of km before I reached land.

Also, the ocean is cold and shit in NZ. Maybe if I were living on the gold coast I'd have a different opinion but there's nothing nice about the beaches of the south island, other than how they're usually quite close to forests and hills

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>>133661637
>en-goy being illusioned to think you've escaped the natural struggle, instead of joining the good christian dios while you were still pure enough to have your name in the book of life.

You seem bluepilled as FUCK.

>>133710627
Yeah I never go to the beach as well bcause they're cold as fuck (I'm south islander too)
However I would brave the cold to explore our oceans, in fact I probably wouldn't have to brave the cold because most deep sea exploration is done with robotic underwater machines that are operated from land

>>133703525
Freemasonry is a meme
>>133706025
Don't bother, it's basically Boy Scouts for the elderly.

>>133696440

Literally the worst non-career

Wage slaves working countless hours for capital owners. If you are a woman, high-end escort is a more respectable profession. If you are a man, literally anything would be better.

>>133661599
LOL WAT BRITBOOOOO0NG!

>>133710269
just be a highschool teacher if things get desperate

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>>133710988
Freemasonry is big in the military, Id say if you went into a field was lots of free masons, joining would benefit you. But at the end of the day its a gay boys club that tries to act tough lol. If you ever see that shit, talk shit to one and theyll try to fight you, generally all super pussies tho and you can beat em up.

>>133660335
you wanna get high? drink tap water

What do you guys know about law?
Should I invest myself in it?

>>133711492
generally good, you can make 140k a year surfing on easy cases or you can try and go into firms and make millions.

>>133711492
You won't be out of job if you can actually get a degree in it. If you are United States you will be in debt, but you can work that out with working since law pays well.

Don't fall into the meme "if you aren't top tier school you cant find work with law profession".

But it's really hard shit. Lots of reading. Long nights. Books. Thinkening.

Where are you Breakroom!

I'll begin a MA in cryptography next year when my math BS is finished. Is that degree as based as I think ?

Reassure me on this one lads, I'm studying international security studies but it's in Canberra (capital), will I be ok if trying to get into government/public sector?

>>133711492
Half my uni is law students, I can't see a lot of them getting employed because it's quite a hard market

>>133711770
What's the next best cryptocoin?

>>133711770
As long as you are interning for work experience in a stem field its a good thing, if not well better start networking now.

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Who /brainlet/ in STEM degree here?
I'm doing robotics.

>>133662989
Don't pick chemistry by itself though. They'll expect you to get a PhD (otherwise you don't have more worth than a labrat) so you are in for 8-10 years of studying

Anyone have any experience in Chem?

Did you find work easily?
What's your opinion on your salary?
Do you work hard, or have it easy in a cushy lab position?

>>133662635
>graduate
>head to interview
>"Sorry, anon. We're not hiring anymore."
>look over shoulder
>Pajeet sits on your would-be desk, working minimum wage.
>end up working at Best Buy

>>133684493
Get back to the bible, boi! No future priest should be dicking with us degenerates on pol. Keep that head clear and pure.

>>133712259
wut game/mod?

>>133664404

>but I'm easily the smartest person I know

Psychology is not for you my friend.

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>>133660061
im doing a bachelor of science and majoring in conservation science

how fuck am i /pol/, ive got no work experience and am borderline autistic

I'm thinking of getting an Information Technology bachelors with a major in Network Security, is that an acceptable decision to take?

>>133711492
40-60k a year unless you graduate top 25% from top 14 Law school. Every schmuck in state school thinks he/she will become the next hotshot big low partner. Nothing against the career, just way too overcrowded

Gender Studies, Chicano Studies, African American Studies, Central American Studies (Poli Sci dept specialization).

Don't waste your time reading about dead cis scum white males.

My Xbox crew:
MeGusta Tu Toto
Yo Boi Randy
Kaze Djinn
p0tat0 salad69

>>133712969
As the saying goes. If you are the smartest person in a room, You are in the wrong room....

Humility will get you farther than glorified ego.

>>133712758
Keking with us might make him more understanding towards the troubled youth

>>133706370
I go to a top 10 school, and bus/Econ majors fight to the death for IB and Consulting. Good luck.

>>133713359
>Doesn't realize it is all about networking
I go to a private school ranked ~50 for business, and there are kids who graduate and go straight into PE.

>>133667393
Plumbing is the cornerstone of a healthy civilization, that and "stonework"

>>133713434
>implying we don't network
We begin networking year 1. It is still competitive to grab spots at Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Blackrock, McKinsey, Bain, Deloitte, etc.

>>133660061
- a profession that is needed. This is often those with a lot of business or prevalence.
Not that some prevalent products are not known to the consumer because they're used in the production/management level.

- a profession not everyone can do. Technical subjects are generally shunned. Same for trades.

>>133713434
Damn, that's sad.

>>133712865
Nier Automata, it's about androids dealing with existentialism.

>>133713637
>Deloitte is competitive
Regardless, I do not see the point in pursuing an IB career if not a Jew or have a Jew wife. Those poor fucks work 100 hours a week while Kikes & co. make all the profits.

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>>133711923
Bump

>>133660061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsMc-IswG3w

>>133713693
Don't pursue law unless you really want to be a lawyer. There are other career options that will pay more and you will probably enjoy more

>>133714018
I'm gonna sound like an autist, but what are your personal ideas over what those careers would be?

>>133714182
nvm too late for me already diagnosed by 4chan steam lurkers as autistic

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>ctr+f Law
>17 results

Law is the most soul draining field there is.

I spent 3 years in corporate law, and everyone there were just as fucking miserable. The only reason the young ones held on was because they knew that they'd get the big bux in a few years. The only reason the old ones held on was because they had a huge fucking mortgage and alimony payments coming up.

I got the fuck out of there, and except got a cushy government job that had zero to do with law.

>>133714182
Blog post but should help.

All good, I was in your situation my freshman/sophomore year. There is STEM if you like working in a lab and not talking to people. However, if you want to make a lot of money (>200k) and move up the social ladder, you won't do that unless you are going to MIT or equivalent or live in Silicon Valley which is NYC tier cost of living.

We live in a capitalist society, so business will be more profitable. However, good grades are really only half the fight. You also need to network and land internships in order to get your foot in the door. If you do not have many social skills, remember it is a skill and can be learned.

There is finance (with money), operations (running the business/corporation), consulting (getting paid a fuck ton telling corporations how to make more money), and other positions.

Below are some communities focused on finance and business in general. (They can be major prestige whores on these sites but don't worry, you can make up for it with an MBA.)
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/
http://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/

>>133714182
Also, if you go to a non target (not top tier) school, focus on getting as high of a gpa as possible. You will land a decent job after you graduate. Then, work as hard as you can and be friendly with your bosses to get promotions. Do some charity work on the side, and apply to business school. If you get in to a top 15 school and work hard/network harder, you should come out starting mid/high 100's by 28

>>133660061

Porn.

>>133714855
>If you do not have many social skills, remember it is a skill and can be learned

This, and being comfortable speaking in front of large audiences is golden in business.

There are thousands of courses that teaches both.

>>133660061

>What are the best careers and majors in this time of political and economical crisis?

Depends what country you're from but certain fields such as medical fields (Paramedics, Doctors, Nurses, specialists) are good.

>Why medical fields?

With an over abundance of immigration into western countries bringing in diseases and with anti bacterial resistance looming we may see a high demand for medical related jobs.

Increases in immigration also bring crime and homicide/attempted murder/acid attack victims/rape victims so if you're a paramedic or doctor or nurse, demand will increase because of those factors.

>>133715112
Thanks. I just lost a big promotion because I was too "impersonal and cold." What type of classes can I take to learn charisma? How old is too old to learn? I'll be 70 this year.

>>133715509
Toastmasters boomer/pol/

>>133714855
>>133715011

Thank you charitable anon, I will visit these sites. You must be pretty successful to have this knowledge. To be frank, the whole concept scares me to some extent, specifically because of the level of my social skills. It's getting better, however.

>>133715606
How long does this take? I'll be up for the job again in two years. Everyone says they love me, it's just a few people who say I'm cold. I also had the job last time, but there was some unfair (misogynistic) attacks against me.

>>133660061
I'm working on a BS in Computer Information Systems and after planning on getting a masters in Computer engineering. I have 6 years military admin experience. Is this a possible future?

>>133715855
Keep your security clearance active.

On the tail end of my BS in Computer Engineering. Plan to probably take it to the Air Force.

>>133715693
Good luck brother. The good thing about business is how diverse it is. If you love crunching numbers all day, there is finance. If you enjoy managing people or a specific industry (Cruise ships, oil, fucking paint thinners) there is the corporation side. If you are entering college, make some friends and socialize, but don't make the mistake like me and become a degen your first semester.

>>133715731
https://www.toastmasters.org/
It is an international organization that holds meetings for the purpose of improving communication/public speaking skills. You go however long you like.

>>133715894
I have a secret clearance and after my contract, I'm going into the reserves. I could get a USSOCOM reserve unit and just work there as my civilian job. Just don't know if they will give me top secret.

>>133660061
Electronic and biomedical engineering
Also, computer science, prolly medicine

>>133715067
most American post in here

>>133664191
what are trying to say?

Do tradies not make good money in britistan? Cause we make good money over here.