RETURN TO CATHOLICISM

>>133654007
>Even fucking thousands of children.

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>>133654007
Based Catholicism.

>>133654007
Your pope is a worse cuck than Merkel, and Justin combined. Orthodox supremacy!

>>133654007
One holy catholic and apostolic church.

I have resolved to stop calling our Orthodox brothers orthodox for it differentiates them too much. They are constantinopolitan catholics like we are roman catholics. Although in schism they are still catholics. Orthodox is a term that should be used to describe dogma not a communion or people for that is the sin of pride.

Bump
We need another crusade

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>>133654007
No. Come to atheism, some of us are working on secular explanations to morality independent of a supernatural divine being.

>>133654007
Tried it, it's pretty shit.

>>133655637
>Poland
>Not Catholic

oh shit

>>133655637
Because you're weak.

>>133655735
>Because you're weak.

You're weak if you need some imaginary dude to tell you how to conduct your life.

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>>133654007
Second vatican council must be destroyed.

>>133655443
Bitch with your birth rates there will be relatively no atheists compared to religious folk. You aren't even in the picture anymore really.

>>133655998
Vatican II is shit, it was the culmination of the infiltration.

>>133655998
this please

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>>133654007

I grew up as a Catholic, and I got re baptized as an Adventist.

I will not return to Catholicism, it represents nothing but the unity of the world under the construction of the tower of Babel.

The protestants of the 16th, 17th and 18th century were right to forsake, reform and protest the Catholic dogma.

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I can't be the only freerider who thinks that Christianity is good for society but bad for the individual and shills for Christianity while being secretly a fedora?

>>133655998
basically every problem with the modern catholic church goes back to Vatican II

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>>133654007
No.
Give us a conservative Pope again.

>>133655443
Polytheism is the morality red pill. Deities are necessary because we need to derive moral authority from a source more powerful than man. But confining yourself to worshipping the values of one deity limits human potential.

Catholics are degenerate pedo idol worshipers

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>>133655257

> "true glory (to God)"

> Pride! Whaaaa!

> We're gonna take your name away too!

>>133654859
who are these guys?

>>133656021
>Birth rates meme.
Provide an actual argument. Or at least a source for your claim.
Besides, we still have conversion.

>>133656448
>Polytheism.
I disagree, but I see where you are coming from.

>>133656336
You can't be rebaptized. In the creed we profess ONE baptism not two or three but one.

>>133654007
Can't we just retire this pope too?

>>133654007
Fuck off and die papist.

>>133656336
>rebaptized
wut

>>133656812
He'll probably be there until death.
But how hard could it be to assassinate the leader of one of the largest, if not the largest, religion on the face of the planet?

>>133656823
this

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>>133654007
RETURN TO NIGGER LOVING, SOCIALIST, INTERNATIONALIST, ANTI-NATIVIST ULTRA KEKDOM

> Centralized moral authority

Sounds a bit like moral communism to me

>>133655443
>some of us are working on secular explanations to morality
We figured this out literally centuries ago... keep thinking you can crack that nut as an athiest...

>>133656935
he said he would probably retire.

>>133656336
>re baptized
Heretic spotted

>>133657075
Do you think morality is relative?

>>133657128
Watch how atheists spend hundreds of years slowly coming to the realisation god exists.

Why reinvent the wheel?

>>133656592
Top right is JRR Tolkien

>>133654007
No... catholicism needs to return to Christianity. It was a pretty good system before Constantine got a hold of it and it degenerated to the perverted system it is today. Just about everything unique to catholicism is a direct contradiction of the bible and doctrine they promote. No idols... but pray to saints and mother mary and carve their figures and praise and worship them... heathen degeneracy.

>>133656448
hail the Gods!

Im trying to decide between Catholicism and Orthodoxy. Catholics, tell me how you respond to this: Pope cant/doesnt say stuff that 100 years ago, would be a standard for a pope to say? How do you deal with such inconsistencies?

>>133656697

In theory, you are right.
The bible only suggests 1 type of baptism:
>When a man wants to be a christian (repent and forsake his old life) then he ought to be baptized
>Christ got baptized by plunging under water, John baptized by plunging under water, the disciples baptized people by plunging them under water

The Catholic Church baptizes babies who cannot make the decision to follow after christ. Nor do they plunge them under water, but sprinkle water over them.

It is not a baptism that is instituted by God, therefor I do not recognize their baptism. And it is not just baptism that got me of the Catholic hook.

>>133657298
If it's inevitable I say let them give it a shot.

>>133657251
Not really, not for humans. I don't recognize the pope as a true representative of any
moral authority though, especially no the current one.

>>133657223

Says he that is willing to kill and slay in Jesus name.

>>133657306
Bottom right is Chesterton and Pius X is in the middle

>>133657075
Truth be told, that's one of my biggest problems with Christianity, Islam, and Judaism; a system of morality that deals in nothing but moral absolutes. The opposite of this, the liberal system of little to no objective morality, is even worse I'll admit. However, both are still incredibly horrendous systems of right and wrong.
Of course there is an objective base of morality, as can be seen through hard evidence of what benefits all three sections of society; the individual, the community, and the world. However, some parts are much less objective, particularly when the moral or virtue in question doesn't benefit one or two of the three mentioned. From there, various arguments can form over which is more important. From that, we get the subjective, less obvious state of morality.

>>133657128
>>133657298
Already working on it; just need to write all my thoughts down and see if someone else had already thought of it or not.

CATHOLICS OUT
PROTESTANTS IN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS05UxBVTtY

>>133657469
While Orthodox myself, be aware that Orthodox is still very tied to ethnicity. It's maybe less of a problem in North America, but Orthodox churches are still found in ethnic neighborhoods, etc. Roman Catholics are much more widespread, and you can find conservative churches if you look...

>>133654007
I am already; the RCC is flawed and human, but we rest our hopes in God.
And I want to preserve Europe since God made us this way and we must be grateful for what we are, even with our flaws and limits; I'm okay with helping the poor and the needy, but in their home Countries.

I don't associate with Pedos.

>>133654007
>return to the children's rape chamber because we need more money to pay off all these damn child rape victims out of court - gimme gimme gimme

you should be b& for this shit
read the fucking rules

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>>133657469
Papal infallibility is only during ex cathedra. We've had plenty of shitty popes throughout history and Catholics were free to criticize them just as we do with Francis

>>133657566
I see

>>133656413
I'd be okay with him or Cardinal Sarah (and ib4 "but he's black!": he is conservative, traditionalist and he is against the current immigration in Europe)

>>133657355
Lol wut. Constantine was an Arian and wanted the church to become Arian too but the church ignored him. Protestants need to read the history of the religion they follow

>>133657633
>However, some parts are much less objective, particularly when the moral or virtue in question doesn't benefit one or two of the three mentioned.
Could you give an instance of this?

>>133658156
ah ok, i just dont like that idea. How theres a conflict of interest. I understand this happens in almost every organization religious or not but i feel as if it would create much division among the church. Also, it gives a bad impression of Catholics from a noncathloic perspective.

>>133657469
The only difference between the two is that Constantinople rejects the primacy of Rome. If you accept the primacy of Rome go roman catholic, if you reject it go eastern oriental or Assyrian catholic. They are all part of the same one holy catholic and apostolic church.

However consider that the church was founded on peter and the apostles recognised him as the head of them and Jesus gave him the keys to the kingdom of heaven

St Cyprian on a patriarchal dispute : Rome has spoken, the matter is resolved

>>133657499
It will probably create some bastardisation and heresy like protestantism

>>133658257
Did I say Constantine specifically did anything? No. I said after he got a hold of it, (which essentially introduced it as a political system thanks to the structure of Rome) it let to it getting perverted and fucked up.

"Arian" or not has nothing to do with how far Catholicism is now from Christianity as it was before Constantine. It's aryan btw...

>>133658979
Lol no its Arian as its named after Arius. Aryan is a race you mongoloid. Seriously your historical knowledge is that of a child's read up the history of the church then we'll talk

>>133657785
so ? no real Orthodox would send a believer to a catholic church you subhuman lying kike.
>>133657469
dude find one where they speak english

>>133658701
Stupid question here, so if the church is "built on peter" (https://www.catholic.com/tract/origins-of-peter-as-pope), why are there different denominations? In other words, how do they justify their heresy?

>>133659310
Constantinople allows its members to take the Eucharistic in roman churches if that's all that is available.

>>133658701
Only catholics recognize their primacy, noone else. hmm

>>133659511
yes but thats not a good idea to become a catholic you imbecile

>>133654007

Jesus was a Jew.

>>133659490
They justify it with their ego, lies, misinformation and mental illness. But mainly the ego. Roman catholicism is so reprehensible to the proud because it requires completely surrendering your ego to god and putting faith in his church and ministers and not in the self.

>>133658701
>They are all part of the same one holy catholic and apostolic church.

Exactly. They're all the same pagan church.

>>133659830
The Roman Catholic Church is an abomination, the Whore of Babylon, and not the church Jesus came to redeem.

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>>133654007
As cool as it would be to have a religion that's been in my family for generations that's not going to happen. God judges not by our words but our actions. The catholic church's actions tell me: "RUN!"

God: creates nature, includes man & women meant to be together (marriage, families, healthy societys).

Catholic Church: forbids marriage for clergy, ends up with priests debating man vs. boy in "shall not lay with another man." Hides evil to preserve its appearances, fails anyway. Assigns itself special super human status over its flock...

>God created nature including the equality of men. Perverting nature will only result in your doom. Stick to tradition all the way Into hell if you want but it's a choice you freely make.

>>133659542
Only roman catholics. Although there are over 1 billion of us and we have the most bishops. Eastern oriental and Assyrian are still catholics just not roman

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Satan on google /sky/

''And his right eye shall be utterly darkened,..'' Zechariah 11:17

>>133654007
after we kill pope francis

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''And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: Rev 12:1
...
''And the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.'' Rev 12:4

Him closing in on the mother as described by modern instruments, - this thing is moving folks, which a nebula would never do and keep it's shape

>>133659665
Why are you hateful to your fellow catholic?

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Satans 7 heads
'',..A Great Red Dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads,.''' Rev 12:3

>>133659490

Mostly based on the succession to peter and which seat if any holds the most significance. Patriarchs in eastern orthodox christianity are all equal in significance as peter's successors, the bishop on the holy see in rome is the most significant of catholic bishops, and the cardinal bishops secondmost as his advisors

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Nasa censorship off Satan - Just like /sky>>133660008

https://skyview.gsfc.nasa.gov/current/cgi/query.pl

Coordinates: 13 48 1.0, -8 28 20.5"
IRAS micron 100

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A pic of ranmdom space for comparison

A rundown any on why it is not a nebula

As described in this picture it proves a point that it is not a nebula, since a Nebula doesn't move and keep it's shape>>133660056
And a Nebula can not have such perfect color differentiation as this filter does not change the color based on distance

>>133659981
Which of the 33000 protestant churches did he come to redeem then?

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Portal to hell, found inside satan

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Rare pepe

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Rundown

>>133655257
>Schism
>Still Catholics
Now you sound like a damn Orthodox goy.

>>133660078
look how you mislead a beginner , guys don't listen to shills

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>>133654240

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repent

>>133660137
They are all equal but peter is the first, the primate, the head of the apostles and bishops

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>>133654007
Like I would ever leave

>>133658432
Yes.
The matter of foreign aid does not aid the individual much, barring a sense of self satisfaction, nor the community, but it does the world. In this case most people would say yes to such aid, since they can help more than they hurt. However, there are indeed cases where this charity can be abused (Africa) or otherwise misused (Some politicians). Therefore, extreme proponents of individualism will say no, but there may still be many who say yes.

This might be a bad example, but I'm still working on the system. It may still need some forms of tweaking, but I think it works at the very least for outlining a good moral base on traits such as diligence, moderation, and allow room for protection against a hostile power.

>>133659828
Yes, not a Khazar like today's (((jews)))

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>>133660145


Is that Pepe in space?

>>133660404
Schism does not remove you from the church. The church exists in its wholeness and universality with each bishop. As long as you have a valid bishop you have the whole catholic church. Constantinople it an bishops are recognised as valid by Rome therefore they are catholic

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>>133654007
stop being a catholic and be a Christian instead

>>133659828
*Judean. Jews co-opted that title and the"god's chosen" as a way to elevate themselves.

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Nah I'm good. The Catholic Church is full of kid fucking faggots. On the day of the rope we will hang the pope.

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>be me
>see possible b8 thread.
>Mouse over OPs ID.
>ONE post by this user.
>MFW you all got got

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>>133661048
reddit

>>133660145
What am I looking at?

>>133654007
>RETURN TO CATHOLICISM
>implying I ever left.
You filthy heretics have some repenting to do.

>>133660960
Funny how the Jews call themselves the roman and Greek name for them rather than calling themselves Hebrew. I have a theory that they can't fully lie and call themselves holy things because as satanists they are too repelled by what is holy thus must use secular terms like Jew, and judaism

>>133657471
>babies who cannot make the decision to follow after christ
This, that cute little ceremony doesn't count and people need to realize this and undergo a proper baptism when they are ready to accept Jesus. Why people think a newborn baby needs to be reborn before it even knows how to be wicked is beyond me.

>>133654007
I already am a member of the Catholic Church, friend.

>>133654007
How can i return to catholicism if i was never catholic in my entire life?

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>>133661155
Satan

>>133660404
well ast least he doesnt sound like a kurwo catholic

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>being a denominational cuck

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>>133654007 Bow to the only Church Heretics.

>>133661134
Never been.

>>133659988
>Why does the fisher of men have a fishing hat

>>133660343
This gave me chills. What will happen on that day when Jesus returns?

>>133662113
According to the book of revelations , a time of 1000 year peace

And the clensing of heretics

>>133662392
The day of the rope?

>>133662113
When video cameras, tape recorders, telephones, telegraphs are all uninvented and "miracles" can happen again.

>>133654007
It's anti-abortion and in terminal decline. 500 years of decline in power. (Converting shitskins doesn't matter.)

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>>133654007
Ima make a sign that says kill the commie pope and stand infront of my Jesuit church. I hate this commie motherfucker so fucking much I'm willing to make another alliance with the devil to insure his demise.

>>133661177
From what I understand they took the title of jew after the publication of the King James Bible.

>>133654007
>doctrine revived from christ
shit was written like 400 years after he died. also they fuck kids and welcome musims into EU. i love all the great art and churches but fuck that kid fucking religion.

>>133662466
the day god storms down from the hevens to throw satan in a pit of fire with the satanists will be roughly 3.5 years after armageddon starts, and it starts the 23 of september

>>133656592
men that like to fuck little boys in their ass.

>>133662741
this year

>>133662741
How does one be sure not to get Armageddoned?

>>133663863
Pray to christ get baptized don't sin

There will never be a guarrente however that your won't die in armageddon, only eternal life in heaven

>>133662732
Nah they took it when they started speaking koine Greek around the time of Christ hence why Greek speaking Jews call themselves Jews in the nt

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>>133654007
Daily reminder Catholics didle kids.

>>133663863
Join the catholic church. Join the clergy and devote your life to Christ and be martyred for true certainty

>>133665079
Not as much as protestants and atheists though. The ones that diddle are Jew puppets pushed to destroy the church anyway

>>133662741
Nobody knows the day and the hour.

>>133654007
Come to Maryland its a catholic refuge surrounded by protestcucks

>>133665252
never said so either,3.5 years after september is the time interval

>>133656448
And when you don't actually believe the gods are real they have no authority.

>>133666323
This is true. Satan and his demons (pagan gods) can only possess you if you consent to them they have no power over you if you reject them

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Just got my st. Aloysius Gonzaga medal - patron saint of students and catholic youth. Who do you wear pol?

>>133654007
Beautiful thread.

Check out my channel -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFtFUX10oZw

>>133662741
No, my friend, that day is at least 1007 years away.

Satan will be bound for a thousand years after the 7 year tribulation.

I like your zeal tho

>>133666933
Non-pagan things.

>>133665409
No wonder Baltimore is such a shit hole.

>>133665079
And worship the "Mother of God" and "Queen of Heaven" while they snack on Jesus' body and drink Jesus' blood.

>>133667403
He died following in the foot steps of Christ. Don't be afraid to find inspiration in an individual more holy than yourself. We should all strive to live God's will above our own.

>>133662713
the popes are dedicated to killing all commies and "Christkillers", hence WWII and the Holocaust.

>>133659310
STFU - you obviously have no practical knowledge of how any of this works...

>>133667614
We should all strive to be non-pagans, non-Catholics, and non-Orthodox so that we may enter into heaven and live with God forever.

Instead of worshiping men who may or may not have.

>>133654007
>return
I was never there

T. Orthodox master race

>>133667726
>t. Lost LARPing pagan

>>133667541
And if not her then who is the queen of heaven? Also, the incident remains bread and wine.

>>133667799
Constantinopolitans are catholic. You never left

>>133667799
>More obnoxious self-righteous religious pride.

Did any of you pagans bother to read the gospels, where Jesus' harshest condemnations were to the self-righteous religious hypocrites (who were still better people than you)?

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>>133666933
never caught wearing anything other than this....

>>133667875
Gee, I don't know. Let's see what the bible says about it.

Jeremiah 7:18 The children gather wood, the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven; and they pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke Me to anger.

Whoever she is, her followers really piss God off.

>He calls himself a Catholic and yet

>He doesn't attended a latin mass in the past few months
>he doesn't say a daily rosary
>he recieves communion standing up and in the hands
>he hasn't recently asked for the intercession of a saint other than St Anthony
>He has never prayed a chaplet of the divine mercy
>He can't recite the Nicene creed off by heart
>He doesn't attend confession AT LEAST every two weeks
>he doesn't abstain on fridays
>he doesn't carry a medal/icon/etc
>he hasn't recently attended adoration/benediction
>he has never taken part in any sort of discernment

What is your excuse?

>>133667909
Exactly. Same hellbound misfits as the papists.

>>133654007
Catholic church is scandalous
Always has been

>>133667999
Well she doesn't sound like Jesus's mom whom we Catholics honor.

>>133667983
Aesthetic. Very nice.

>>133667999
Nah, I'm just kidding. I know who she is.

She's Semiramis, the wife of Nimrod of Babylon, the "Mother of God" and "Queen of Heaven" that the papists and orthodox worship to their eternal error.

Ash Wednesday - go into mourning with the Queen of Heaven for her dead son.
Lent - fast for 40 days, like Semiramis did in mourning for her dead son.
Ishtar/Easter - celebrate the resurrection of her dead son.

Pagan is as pagan does.

>>133668089
>>133668222

Worshiping Mary as a pagan goddess does her no honor.

>>133667788
I don't worship Gonzaga. I pray that the Lord give me the same strength provided to him. He is only an example of what I may achieve through dedication to the faith.

>>133668165
Must be Pagan Idol Appreciation Day.

>>133668281
>as a pagan goddess
WUT

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>>133660913
This

The roman catholic church is the worst thing that could have happened to Christianity in the last few years. The Pope is a total joke.

And there just is something about "eating flesh" and "drinking blood" that doesn't sound very Christian to me.

>>133668295
Nobody hears your prayers, papist. But don't worry, you're as much of a sinner as whoever that is was.

>>133668373

No clue how this deserves a WUT.

>>133668348
Apparently the cross is a pagan idol. Iconoclasm is an ancient heresy BTFO in the 8th century.

>>133668222
>go into mourning with the Queen of Heaven for her dead son.
Yeah, Jesus's death was a very important time of mourning.

>>133668423
The death toll behind the Vatican for the past thousand years is likely over 100,000,000.

It is the most evil institution on the planet, and its sycophants are lost, naked and blind.

>>133654007
Pretend to be a protestant then return to catholicism once the current cuckpope dies and a deus vult tier based one is elected

>>133668522
Yeah, following the bible is so non-Catholic.

>>133668423
Whoever does not eat my flesh does not have eternal life for my flesh is real flesh and my blood is real blood.

Apparently Jesus isn't a christian. Hmmm

>>133668497
She's not a goddess. She's just a very important figure that we pray to like the saints. There's only one God.

>>133668590
Tammuz, not Jesus.

Tammuz was Semiramis' son, not Jesus.

Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Ishtar/Easter are all about Tammuz, not Jesus.

>>133668623
Tell me based wall builder, are we in the time of the anti-pope?

>>133668600
100000 gorillion? Oy very its anudda shoah.

Heretics deserved their burnings. It was god who smote them

>>133668424
A canonized saint who rejected the fame and fortune of his family to pursue the faith, and as a result died at the age of 24 while treating people suffering from the plague is what you perceive as a sinner?

Why are you so angry and contrary? Take a look at yourself before you critize others and remember God loves you.

>>133668715
Apparently you are unaware that spiritual food and drink is eternally more important than physical food and drink.

You know, since nobody ever ate any part of Jesus, and nobody ever drank any of Jesus' blood.

>What is a symbol?

You'll be happy to know that your pagan ancestors from 4000 years ago also had the "Eat God, Be God" cakes and wine.

Of course, they worshiped the devil, so that really doesn't say much for you, now, does it.

>>133668720
You should go back to 1854 and tell the Catholic church that.

It's okay, though. It's not like she can hear any of you idiots.

>>133668736
What's wrong with reworking a good holiday to worship a real God instead of idols?

This is now a pagan thread

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>>133668862
The great Hungarian Wall?

kek

The pope is the False Prophet, and not the Antichrist. The Antichrist is a political figure who will receive the world on a silver platter handed to him by Pope Francis.

>>133668868
You fit right in with your evil, devil worshiping murderous ancestors.

>>133668980
Leave swine. I'd choose a protestant over you any day.

>>133668887
Yes, because there's this little thing called the bible.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

Gee, no exceptions.

>>133668980
It was always a pagan thread.

>>133655443
Christ-chan noooooooo

>>133668897
>what is the last supper

This is my body eat this in remembrance of me.

Funny how protestants believe retarded literal things like the world being created in 7 solar days and the earth being 6000 years old but the moment we take Jesus at his word they are like "lol obviously its symbolic u retard". Protestantism is a mind virus. Even your prophet Luther believed in the real presence

>>133669069
I know, but there is a prophesied anti-pope before the anti-christ comes into power. I think it might be Francis.

>>133668979
>What's wrong with worshiping idols?

Oh, that's right. You may have a catholic bible that cut the 2nd of the 10 commandments out of it.

The 2nd commandment is against idolatry. Thou shalt not, you know, have any idols.

>>133655257
So would you agree the jesuits, calling themselves the 'society of Jesus' is some gross distortion for someone following teaching of Christianity?

You non catholics really misunderstand how we view saints and Mother Mary.

We don't worship them like God, they are just examples of accepting his will. By following them we help ourselves do the same. And hopefully, your patron can appeal to God on your behalf.

>>133669155
You're the same as he is. He worships Semiramis by the name Isis, and you worship Semiramis by the name Mary.

>>133669387
not even average Catholics like Jesuits my guy

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>>133669275
And nobody ate any part of Jesus.
And nobody drank any of Jesus' blood.

You may want to make a note of that, as both Jesus' body and blood were present.

>>133669249
And just like the commies the atheists have to steal memes instead of creating their own.

>>133669337
Lies. Catholic bible has all the original commandments.

>>133669299
Of course it is. He's a black pope, an oathbreaking Jesuit who speaks from a hall shaped as a serpent and tells atheists they can go to heaven, and said Jesus turned into the devil on the cross, into the serpent.

>>133669185

He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone

>>133669337
You clearly misread my post.
>worship a real God instead of idols

>>133669431
They've been kicked out of, what, 83 countries?

Why do you suppose people kick out the papist Order of Assassins?

And why do you suppose one of them is the black pope right now?

>>133669468
Your version of last supper:
Jesus: This is my body, eat
Apostles: nah thanks I'm full

>>133669589
Yeah, fuck Francis

>>133657469
There was no real schism between catholic and orthodox church. The were separated and the Catholics decided they could start making shit up. Then when they were no longer separated cause of the Muslims. The orthodox said no thank you to your made up shit. (simplified)

>>133669515
Whatever you say, papist.

Second Commandment [Catholic]
You shall not take the name of the LORD, your God, in vain.
Second Commandment [KJV]
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them. [bolding in original]

>>133669594
So you are aware of at least one bible verse, even though you have no idea how to use it in context.

Good start?

Nah, you have no idea what that verse means, and it's a pretty simple one.

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DEUS VULT

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>>133654007
I wish we could, but Christianity no longer Catholicism lies in what is now called Catholicism.

>>133657469
They're technically the same church. The traditions are just different.

>>133669820
Look on the Vatican website. They quote the multiple places where the commandments are stated including the no idols commandment. That's probably the reason for your confusion/mental retardation

>>133669629
And you clearly missed my point.

Nothing was changed. Nothing was revisited, revised, rewritten, etc.

Catholics today worship the same goddess that Babylonians did 4000 years ago. They just call her Mary instead of Semiramis.

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>>133655443
Atheism is inherently Communist. Communists aren't human and thus morally right to exterminate.

>>133669749
My version:

And Jesus handed them BREAD, saying this is my body.....

And Jesus handed them WINE, saying this is my blood.....

You know, the non-cannibal, non-vampire, non-lawbreaking way.

>>133670130

DEUS VULT

>>133670004
Yes, because they got busted, shamed, and guilted into putting the bible back together.

But of course their bible is still incredibly full of errors, most of them justifications to worship Mary.

>>133654007
Return to Orthodoxy.

>>133669893
If you're arguing that we are all sinners, the point stands.

I might as well look to someone who dedicated his life to Christ, even if he wasn't perfect, although leagues ahead of us, and ignore and angry shitposter.

Also, nice reddit spacing.

>>133670028
Well, when I pray to her I'm directing my prayers to the woman that gave birth to Jesus, not some stupid Babylonian idol.

>>133670135
Funny how he said this is my body and not this is like my body or this is a symbol of my body.

Why do you think Jesus lied to the apostles?

>>133670004
Yeah, because this never happened.....

Ninth Commandment [Catholic]
You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife.

Ninth Commandment [KJV]
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Tenth Commandment [Catholic]
You shall not covet your neighbor’s house.

Tenth Commandment [KJV]
Thou shalt not covet.

Gee, no idolatry, and two thou shalt not covets.

Yeah, that's how God wrote them to Moses. In stone. Directly.

>>133670340
You lack the discernment to tell whether a man dedicated his life to Christ, or whether he dedicated it to his religion.

In fact, you're probably puzzled right now that I would make that distinction.

Because your faith is in your church, and not in Jesus.

>>133670377
Jesus wasn't real. Even the Jews wrote about Jesus, you slave! Same Jews have lied for all time

>>133670377
As I said, Mary is blissfully unaware of the billions of pagans trying to talk to her.

>>133670243
Lol protestant realises he is wrong and starts back pedalling with made up excuses

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>>133655443
Burn, heathen.

>>133670460
Yeah, weird how he gave them bread and wine, and not chunks of his flesh and goblets of his blood.

Can you explain why Jesus screwed that up so badly?

>>133670243
>putting the bible back together
Protestants took books out of the Bible. I'm talking to a troll, aren't I?

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Calvinist here, planning to start RCIA this September

>>133670306
It is not possible for laety to reach orthodoxy for they are too fallible and unknowing to know what the orthodox theology is

>>133670591
Member of the Society of Jesus and literally met his demise through serving the I'll and suffering. You are the one ignoring facts.

>>133670644
Are you denying that the Catholic bible ever took out the 2nd commandment and split the covet commandment into two?

Because if you are, you're completely full of shit.

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>>133668623

>only be a Catholic when it is politically convenient for you

Please, don't.
The Church is already bloated with "cultural" Catholics.
Don't become a Catholic unless you are willing to believe earnestly and suffer humiliation and taunts for said beliefs.

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>>133654007
>nothing can change

what a troll

>>133670629
>same jews
Implying today's Khazars were the original jews.
Kek

>>133654007
Come home, Cardinal Pell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtHOmforqxk

>>133670644
Here you go, papist. Proof that what I said, that your asinine "church" altered the 10 commandments, in your own Catechism:

The Catechism 2066 reads: “The division and numbering of the Commandments have varied in the course of history. The present catechism follows the division of the Commandments established by St. Augustine, which has become traditional in the Catholic Church. It is also that of the Lutheran confessions. The Greek Fathers worked out a slightly different division, which is found in the Orthodox Churches and Reformed communities.”

>>133670739

I never understood Calvinism.

The whole "God creates some people just to send them to hell for shits and giggles" doctrine baffles me.

>>133670703
You really think god lacks the power to transform bread and wine into his body and blood? Just because our eyes and senses can't comprehend it doesn't mean it isn't real

>>133670714
Catholics include non-inspired books in their canon.

As usual, the pagans have everything backwards.

>>133670739
Ex Anglican here. Me too

>>133670781
So an assassin, and one of the most evil people on earth is your hero.

Figures.

>>133670789
The catholic church is bleeding people and can't find priests.

>>133671029
Non-Catholics seem to have trouble grasping this concept. The incidents look and taste like bread and wine, but it still does become Jesus as was Christ's word.

>>133671142
This is quite a leap. I will pray for you my brother, the devil has a firm grip on your soul. I hope you will find peace through faith in our savior Jesus Christ.

>>133670786
Yeah. You're literally making shit up. I have a Douay challons bible here to back me up. Apparently st Jerome rewrote the ten commandments

>>133671025
It's a lie from the pit of hell and directly contradicts the Great Commission, and the verse in one of Peter's letters that it is not God's will that any should perish, but that all come to a saving knowledge of Christ Jesus.

It's a mistake that originates in a profound misunderstanding of the difference between foreknowledge and hard determinism.

>>133671192

The number of priests are dropping, but they are still very selective about who they let into the seminary. I have many friends who were turned away despite their eagerness and holiness.

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>>133654007

answer this
your people or Jesus?
if you had to choose one

>>133671014
Lol you're retarded. The division literally refers to the different commandments found throughout the old and new testament. If you actually read the bible you would realise they aren't exactly the same in each place

>>133671298
...
I do further promise and declare, that notwithstanding I am dispensed with to assume any religion heretical, for the propagating of the Mother Church's interest, to keep secret and private all her agents' counsels, from time to time as they may instruct me, and not to divulge directly or indirectly, by word, writing, or circumstances whatever; but to execute all that shall be proposed given in charge or discovered unto me, by you, my ghostly father. ...

I do further promise and declare, that I will have no opinion or will of my own, or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or cadaver but unhesitatingly obey each and every command that I may receive from my superiors in the Militia of the Pope and Jesus Christ.

That I will go to any part of the world, whatsoever, without murmuring and will be submissive in all things whatsoever communicated to me. ... I do further promise and declare, that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth, and that I will spare neither sex, age nor condition, and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants heads against the wall, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race.

That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poison cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity or authority of the person or persons whatsoever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith of the Society of Jesus.

>>133671303
Jerome......a Roman Catholic....latin translation....that you rely on....

kek

Yeah, you're lost and without a compass.

>>133671356
Nah, they'll let anyone in. The more perverted and sick, the better.

>>133671457
Jesus is always the right answer to questions like these.

>>133656021
90% of the atheists I know come from religious families

>>133671278
Because they have no faith in the power of god and seek to rewrite scripture in order to make the sacred mysteries comprehensible for their human minds even if it means embracing heresy

>>133671025

Well that's a straw man caricature of it, let's be honest.

The doctrine comes from Romans 9, and is basically that God creates some people to glorify his justice in hell.

That's not in contradiction to Roman Catholic theology, though. If we're talking about the providential will of God, he absolutely creates people to glorify his justice in hell. Thomas Aquinas says as much.

>>133671501
So you don't believe your own Catechism, that they changed the way they numbered the commandments.

Which is their mea culpa for leaving out #2 and splitting #10 into two.

You're lost dude. You don't even believe your own church's writings.

>Support pedophilia and jews
No thanks

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>>133671561
Pride is the worst sin

>>133671278
>but it still does become Jesus as was Christ's word.

No, no it does not.

This is an abomination, and what is referred to as "taking communion in an unworthy manner".

I can think of no more unworthy manner than cannibalism and vampirism. And law breaking, of course, as it is against GOD'S LAW to drink the blood with the meat.

>>133658432
Not eating pork

>>133671844
Self-righteous religiosity is the worst sin.

I'll be proud of Jesus all day, all night, every day, and never commit a sin in so doing.

>>133671508
Dope, let me get sauce

>>133671704
>That's not in contradiction to Roman Catholic theology, though. If we're talking about the providential will of God, he absolutely creates people to glorify his justice in hell. Thomas Aquinas says as much.

Which, as usual, is contrary to the bible.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

>>133671704
God gives people free will, he's just omnipotent and knows us so well that he's aware of the choices we will make.

>>133671356
seminaries should be scrapped and normal schools set up for priests it would root out shills ((pedos))

>>133656413
This cardinal is certainly based. I am in the process of joining the church myself.

>>133671731
Talking with protestants is like talking to a mentally retarded child

The ten commandments in exodus differ from those in Leviticus and differ to those in numbers and differ to what Jesus said. The church resolves these differences but also provides all versions for everyone to see

>>133671938
The Jesuit Extreme Oath of Induction as recorded in the Congressional Record of the U.S.A. (House Bill 1523, Contested election case of Eugene C. Bonniwell, against Thos. S. Butler, Feb. 15, 1913, pp. 3215-3216):

It obviously comes from the 16th century, however.

The Jesuits were an order of assassins made to kill Christians, burn bibles, and spy on the world.

>>133672001

Which is why I said in the providential sense of his will.

Of course if God didn't desire anyone to perish providentially, he simply wouldn't create anyone whom he knew in advance would perish.

But God knew, before he ever made Hitler, for example, that he would become a sinner and turn against him. Why, then, did God create Hitler?

To glorify his justice.

We have to distinguish between the providential will and the revealed will.

>>133654007
This is my God. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My God is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
Without me, my God is useless. Without my God, I am useless. I must faithful to my God to be true. I must pray more than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must pray against him before he shoots me. I will…
My God and I know that what counts in war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit…
My God is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its teachings. I will keep my God clean and ready, even as I am clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will…
Before God, I swear this creed. My God and I are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.
So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy, but peace!

>>133672119
The church, your church, attempts to justify its idolatry of Mary and other dead people by claiming God gave men the right to build the ark of the covenant.

Your church is run by satan, and was consecrated to satan back in 1962.

>>133672001
Roman Catholic teaching is not contrary to the Bible because the church teaches that hell exists, but never for certain that anyone is actually in it.

>>133671915
Only you are self righteous. You came here uninvited to attack as protestants always do.

Jesus rejects your pride and asks only for your humility

>>133654007
Catholics realize that Jesus would fucking hate them right? He hated organized religion, tithing, ritual, all that shit.

>>133672179
Bullshit.

God forgave all of Hitler's sins on the cross.

Because you don't know that, you keep going to little closets and telling pedophiles what you did bad this week. And then you both pretend that he can forgive your sins. And you both pretend that the "penance" you "pay" suffices for the remission of sins.

Not the shedding of blood unto death; just some rote repeated prayers to your goddess.

Sickening.

>>133672270
I'm glad they tell you where you are all going.

>>133654007
>let's stick to this papacy thing despite it fucking us over for century after century

>>133672145
Prods are heretics, not Christians.

>>133672310
You don't know Jesus, never met Jesus, and when you see Jesus, it will be on the worst day of your life.

And then from then on, each day will successively be the worst day of your life.

Because you're in the Whore of Babylon, and proud to defy God's only begotten Son by pretending his mommy can get you into heaven.

>>133672335
Nah, they have no clue. You point out how similar they are to pharisees and they just blow it off.

Jesus said distinctly that he hates the ways and practices of the Nicolaitans, people who placed clergy over the common people, and they claim Nicholas something something nothing to do with us.

>>133672398

I'm not even Catholic yet. I'm a Calvinist who is becoming Catholic, largely because of the similarities between Thomistic and Calvinistic soteriology, the latter of which I consider very biblical. The more I studied Thomistic soteriology, the more I realized that the Catholic Church is fine with many of the beliefs I considered biblical.

In any case, speaking from a Protestant perspective, this sentence of yours:

>God forgave all of Hitler's sins on the cross.

Is of course ridiculous. If God forgave all of Hitler's sins, Hitler will be in Heaven because God has nothing to punish him for.

Oh but wait, you'll say, he needs to "accept" Jesus' sacrifice.

Well, you just contradicted yourself, then. All of Hitler's sins weren't forgiven, since you just said he'd be punished for the SIN of unbelief.

>>133672335
They why did he found an organised church lead by a council of apostles headed by peter? Jesus accepted the authority of the Hebrew priesthood but rejected the hypocrisy of the pharisees.

We don't tithe, only protestants do that

>>133672455
By the catholic definition of the word, sure. I'm proud that the Whore of Babylon considers me a heretic; I would be appalled if she considered me an acolyte.

>>133672514
If that's what you think do you forgive me?

>>133672625
Holy shit dude, Jesus made salvation simple enough for children to grasp.

Just because Hitler and your sins were forgiven on the cross does not mean Hitler and you are saved; you are still both dead.

Forgiven, but dead.

Jesus' sacrifice made it possible for God to offer the free gift of His salvation; His Holy Spirit.

The forgiveness of sins is not salvation; it is a necessary precondition for the existence of the offer of salvation to anyone who believes.

Read Romans 10:9-13, and stop thinking the catholics have anything right. They do not.

>>133672627
He didn't, as Peter was never in charge of any of the other apostles, and as again your Greek sucks, Petros is not the petra.

>>133672832

The thing is, even most Protestants would disagree with what you just said. That is certainly not the standard Lutheran or Reformed view of salvation.

>>133672786
You have not sinned against me.

Jesus told you to get out of the Laodecean church; He told you to get out of the Whore of Babylon. He said that if you do not get out of the Whore of Babylon, that you will suffer her plagues and her death.

GET OUT

>>133672648
Actually we do consider you a christian and thus a brother in Christ except just not a member of the church

>>133672915
I cannot help other people's ignorance or immaturity, and I stand by what I post knowing that I am accountable to God.

Godspeed.

>>133671915
>Self-righteous religiosity
I'm reading this as an interested spectator but I kek'd when I read this. You've been the most self-righteous and, honestly, hate filled person here.

>>133672886
>what is acts

Jesus renames simon "rock" and then says you are rock (masculine) and on this rock (feminine) I will found my church. Doesn't get more obvious than that

>>133673036

Yes, this is the typical, hyper-subjective, individualistic approach to Christianity that has turned so many people, me included, away from Protestantism.

>Well I cannot help the ignorance of the Reformed and Lutheran traditions, the most intellectually rich traditions within Protestantism, or help the ignorance and immaturity of the vast amount of evangelical seminaries out there, who would use a standard systematic text like berkhof or grudem, no... I stand alone in interpreting the Bible correctly, in my own peculiar weird way in which everyone's sins are already forgiven but they're still dead, even though Ephesians 2 says the opposite, and everyone is wrong in interpreting the Bible but me, this random 4chan person

k.

so persuasive.

>>133672961
No thanks I prefer to be a part of the body of Christ and in union with god for I have faith in Christ and his church

>>133657613
CS Lewis top left

>>133673169
I knew my attempts to reason with raving protestants were not in vain

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>>133672627
you're a fucking retard if you think the 'church' during the time of jesus had ANY similarity to the modern roman catholic church my man.

>>133673604

>you're a fucking retard

By their fruit you will know them. More Protestant viciousness and hatred and name calling. It's always the Protestants who act like that.

Secondly, if you think Catholics believe the Church during the time of Jesus looked like modern day Catholicism, you know absolutely nothing about Catholic theology. Seriously, that's the most ignorant straw man I've ever seen.

Stop wasting so much of your time offering uninformed opinions and go read Newman's On the Development of Christian Doctrine.

>>133673604
>apostles ordain their successors as bishops
>peter ordains his successor as the bishop of Rome

Current roman catholic church is based entirely on apostolicly succeeded bishops and the bishop of Rome as the head. But no you're right its the american mega churches with their guitars and feel good worship that matches the church of the apostles

>>133666959
I liked it man, the numbers told me to sub which i did.

>>133667788
I listen to the leaders of the church, but do not worship nor blindly follow them.

>>133673879
oh no, the bad man was rude, he must be wrong. I'm not christian but I'm not ignorant to who Jesus was and what he believed, its all in writing and if you think Jesus would like the church and all its ritual, wealth and centuries of child abuse and corruption you must be insane.

>>133674147
I'm not protestant and the mega churches would be just as hated as the roman catholic church by Jesus. Jesus has more in common with Buddhists than any modern christian church.

>>133674616

Do you honestly not see how poor your reasoning skills are? Seriously, you have done absolutely nothing in your response but straw man fallacies and arguing against positions no one has even taken.

Sheesh. The lack of critical thinking skills coming from some Protestants....

I mean, you can't even have a conversation with them because their thinking is so fuzzy and imprecise.

In any case, you didn't even response to anything I said, so my response to your lack of response can be equally as unsubstantial.

>>133675040
you didnt make a single point or counter point in this entire post. You realize that?

>>133654007
Never. Catholics are heretics. You do NOT preach the gospel of Jesus. Nothing but Mary worshipers. Praying for the dead, indulgences, hiding the Word for centuries, confessing to a man who can neither forgive nor save you. Your church is an abomination.

>>133676068

I realize it was a very long post. Nearly 5 full sentences. But at the end of that very lengthy post, you will find this sentence:

>In any case, you didn't even response to anything I said, so my response to your lack of response can be equally as unsubstantial.


You have illustrated, yet again, what I meant about Protestants often having very poor critical thinking (and reading comprehension) skills.

>>133676498

I, too, used to believe the meme-level ignorant attacks on Catholicism.

It's so cringy to see someone who is still in that state of ignorance.

The thing you are criticizing right now, the image of Catholicism in your mind, has no correspondence with the Catholicism of the real world. That's the thing.

So, we all agree with you that the thing you're picturing in your mind as Catholicism very likely is an abomination.

>>133654007
The Church is now accepting fags and soon will even marry them. The Pope is a communist. I will never return to Catholicism until they stop being social justice warriors and call a crusade.

>>133670130
All humans are children of God. You should learn to spread a love of freedom and a pursuit for happiness instead of the chains of obligation that come with communism.

>>133676831
Hear hear. I too believe the anti catholic slander as a kid. Ironically it facilitated my apostasy from protestantism when I discovered our bible was written and canonised by the catholic church we so hated. I couldn't trust the bible because I was brought up to not trust catholicism. Hilarious looking back as a catholic now

>>133677067
It's sounds to me that you know nothing about the purpose of the Sacrament of Matrimony. Or that the Catholic Church would rather use progressive tactics against the Globalists.

Like claiming that abortions cause global warming.