why isn't communism as hated as nazism ?

Communism was designed to create, nazism - to destroy

>>133647856
That's ironic because the germans had a higher quality of life than the soviets.

>>133647856
>kills more civilians than the Germans ever did

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>>133647856
>Communism was designed to create, nazism - to destroy
are you sure ?

>>133647757
because that is less dangerous

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>>133647856
Great lie, cunt.

NatSoc brought a nation back from the edge of ruin to becoming the most successful one in all of Europe in less than 10 years.

Now piss off and suffer in your lack of bread and toilet paper, Commie!

>>133647856
>literally destroyed the country and made a colony out of it
You brainwashed commie faggots are the worst.

>>133647757

Because one is taught as the greatest evil of our time, while the other (thanks to liberal professors) is hailed as platform for "tolerance". For some reason the professors leave out the 150+ million people killed by communism, and the sheer amount of starvation and lack of even toilet paper, but I'm sure thats just a mistake on their part.

>>133648015
>>133648001
>>133647960
>designed

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>>133647757
Take a guess.

>>133648055
Are you retarded, hohol? I literally said designed, not realized

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>>133647856

>>133647757
Because IT WASN'T REAL COMMUNISM
And more seriously, it's because leftists fiercely defend communism because it's their endgoal - it can't appear bad.

Bumping for interest.

>>133648044
Give me a proof Marx designed communism to destroy, faggot

>>133648073
Oh...DESIGNED. Yep, that makes everything better. As long it was innocent in theory it's all good.

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>>133648173

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>>133647757

>Needing to ask

Three letters. Take a fucking guess.

Because communists intentionally infiltrated academia for that very reason.

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>>133648329

False.

You made the claim that Communism was made to create, yet provided no evidence to back it up.

The burden of proof lies with you.

All I said was that NatSoc brought a nation back from ruin, which can easily be confirmed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany


Now once again - fuck off, Commie.

>>133647757

Because the USSR was founded and largely controlled by a particular group of (((people))) that also happen to own most of our mass media.

>>133648355
Yup, thats why communism isn't generally ridiculed. Cause THEORETICALLY its a good thing.

>>133648433
I must check 'em.

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It is

>>133647757
>implying a difference
both are faggotry.

Because communists won wwII

/thread

>>133647757
Because muh poor people

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>>133647757
Really makes you think...

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>>133647757
pure coincidence

>>133647757
those who the win war, live to tell their view.

>>133648642
>>133648389
Cuck

>>133647757

because the west allied them in the last world war and never beat them in a full-on war they just sort of pathetically faded away, so there wasn't such a need to propagandize their atrocities

>>133648001
Who cares about the elitist assholes and class cucks? They deserved to die.

Gotta break some eggs to make an omelette.

>>133647757
Because there wasn't a huge propaganda effort against Communism than there was against National Socalism also it tried to be self sustaining being dependent on nobody and the allies couldn't have had that

>>133647757
Because it """Sounds Nice""".

All racial supremacy policies have been discredited since WWII, even if they don't condone outright genocide.

Communism however makes a point of not caring about race, giving everyone a stable job, free education, etc. etc., all of which """Sounds Nice"""" in concept, so people still cling to it.

And each freshly indoctrinated communist thinks that his country is capable of implementing it all without loss of life.

>>133647757
Communism tells all of the poor they can have things if they sign away their rights.

>>133648061
in soviet russia the easiest way to get extra toilet paper was to go and get request forms for extra toilet paper, and use those

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>>133647856

>>133647757
The (((Narrative))).

Just that.

>>133648044
>National Socialism was great!
>But only before it ruined everything for all time
lmao

>>133647757

>nazism

fucking retard

>>133647856
Some things need to be destroyed. What's your point?

>>133647757

Nazism made people work whereas Communism supports people who won't work. Simple. It's a political ideology bolstering entitlement and laziness, EXACTLY what young Americans, Canadians, New Zealanders, Australians, South Africans and Europeans are. Lazy and entitled.

>>133648483
I don't think he's a commie, but the Russian rethoric likes to excuse every single part of their history and at the same time mix it all up, the absurdity of which finally manifests in declaring Lenin, Stalin and Marx as saints.

>>133647757 (OP)

Because everyone seems to forget Stalin killed more people than Hitler

>>133648809
>meme reply
Expected nothing more from a burger

>>133648541
it is theoretically a good thing with a race of hivemind ppl.
communism doesnt tolerate free will of an individual

Nazism is national so by definition its exclusive.

Socialism can be masked as caring and inclusive since its international.

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>>133648824

www.thegreateststorynevertold.tv

There is always more than one side to a story.

>>133648876
>Communism supports people who won't work

meanwhile in reality they put people into work camps just like nazi germany

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>>133648947

"why isn't communism as hated as nazism ?"
Because there are still communists everywhere who defend it and indoctrinate mis-educated captive audiences at universities and in front of the TV.

>>133648870
My point is that society likes things that sound good and hates things that sound bad. Is that easy enough?

>>133647757

because only white people can be Nazi's, but communists can be any race

that's literally it

>>133648768
>classcucks
Said the spoiled little american/british upperclass brat while never working a day in his whole life.

>>133648963
I never said it was good, I just explained why its not hated as much.

>>133648173
I'm not a khokhol.
And it's not an argument. It doesn't matter how it was designed, in reality when people tried to realize communism - it lead to millions of dead people.
So what if it wasn't about race? Commies killed people who disagreed with them. How is that any better?

>>133648824
Things were ruined before national socialism. The Nazis just failed to solve the problem.

>>133647757
Now you are seeing the true problem: Overreaching government in ANY form.

The founders knew this.

"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." - Thomas Jefferson

Nearly every problem we have in this country stems from government over-reach outside the well defined limitations on centralized government that the constitution defines.

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>>133649098

Are you sure about that?

>>133647757
Because old soviet psyops targeted the us university system and supported Marxist professors. That shit will last a few generations at least

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K4kHiUAjTvQ

>>133648255
People starving to death because of the lack of production due to government control isn't true cimmunism?

>>133647757
Because bongs and burgers allowed the commies to commence their long march through the institutions and spread their cancer everywhere. Thanks Eternal Anglo and Son.

>>133648915

Hitler was planning to genocide 80% of captured europeans and all of soviet union the bloodthirsty cunt

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>>133649319

[Citation needed]

>>133649275
To liberals/leftists - yes. They're brainwashed so much that they truly believe their own lies.

Commies killed their own people, Nazi's focused more on outsiders. As those outsiders, they are much more hated in our history books.

Literally because of the 6 million meme, that's it. It doesn't matter that Communism has killed more, MUH SIX MILLION, GOY.

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>>133647757
Media, edgy teenagers and companies like Hot Topic which cater to said edgy teenagers.

So basically communism isn't hated enough, ironically, because of capitalism. Because of all the rubes will to buy this t-shirt made by Chinese 3 year olds.

>>133647757
More normalized
Communism is seen as legit ideology, while National Socialism and Fascism is seen as some impossible radical ultra fringe movement.

>>133648433
The Jews won?

>>133648044
communism took a nation full of medieval serfs and made it into an industrial superpower in twenty

>>133647757
Because they were one of the victory of the war and weren't subjected to a decades long smear campaign by two entire civilizations with no means of defending themselves in debate.

>>133647856

>preserving the identity of a nation is destruction
>destroying the identity of a nation is creation

Got to love how backwards the Jewish-Marxist brain is. Up is down, orange is purple, niggers is people.

>>133649351

Otto Bräutigam: „So hat es sich zugetragen...“ (Holzner Verlag, Germany 1968, p. 590)
Jump up ^

>>133648541
>System where everyone gets exactly the same rewards, no matter how much they contribute to society
>Theoretically a good thing

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What are you guys talking about?

All of our politics are based around calling all government expansion and the slightest raise to taxes communism.

Americans don't think the American dollar belongs to America, they think it belongs to themself.

America is much farther from collectivism than it is to fascism. Our entire history has been based on the idea that inferior races should surrender everything to us.

From Columbus himself to Andrew Jackson.

America is a fascist country, in the 1930s regular people started getting their rights, liberalization didn't happen until the 60's, held for about 60 years, now its switching back.
But there's no one left to kill and take money from, so they are establishing an oligarchal state or as the common man calls it: Libertarianism

>>133649566
>lose
>expect to still be defended in debates
lol

>>133649098
Are you sure? anyone can be a National socalist and being White didn't mean shit for example to even live in the Third Reich you had to be German and not "White" and the ideology was set up so that each country can set up his own Ethnostate being run with National Socalism and could have been modified for the host country

>>133649591
In the minds of liberals, that is exactly how it sounds.

>>133647757
because kikes

>>133647757
It is. Cringeworthy sperglords like Dennis Prager are most of the ones that claim otherwise.

>>133647757
Because they were both around at the same time as one of them from existence.

Becaaue the commies won and nobody told the public. They now run our countries through law, universities and the media

Yoooo, Hitler wuz racist n shiettt man, he killed jews and black people for not being white.

comunists are mainly harmless teenagers and fucked up adults.

Because Nazis fall in the centre. They are still too left for the right to stand up for them and the left loathe them.

While the right loathe communists, the left fucking love them, so it balances out.

Then of course there's the constant Jewish commie propaganda which sole aim was to push the perceived political standing of Nazis as far right as possible to distance Marxist Socialism from National Socialism in order to push the "It's not real socialism" argument.

>>133647757
>why isn't communism as hated as nazism ?
Let tell you about the jews

>>133648061
>he thinks communism is actually applauded in US schools
>he thinks the USSR and its satellites aren't vilified
>he actually thinks Marxist Leninist regimes killed the equivalent of 3/4 the Soviet population

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>>133649638
From the Nuremberg trials, confessed under torture.

>>133647856
citation needed fuck scum

>>133647757
Communism didn't start WWII

>>133648451
This.

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>>133647757
I believe schools misrepresent Nazis compared to the Communists, I could bet there is literally a whole chapter about the holocaust, but about the commies is only like a sentence in the book. (((They))) control the education system, so you learn what (((they))) want you to learn, because if you were anti communism, then "equality", globalization, and any other major project would not have as much support, as it has now.

>>133647856
Quite the opposite. The purpose of National Socialism was to enable the triumph of the will, which in terms of policy means allowing one to prosper so long as they give it their all. In a capitalist society, there are those who give their all and are still held down due to different pressures, and in a communist society, no one is encouraged to give it their all, just aim for average. National Socialism gave everyone the opportunity to prosper and rewarded you if you gave your all.

>>133649726
History is written by the victor, sperg. Why can't you accept the idea at face value without making gay smug meme arrow posts?

>>133650116
Just scroll the thread, God damn it...

>>133650111
That sounds like Omarr Kadhr. Q u ick someone give the Nazi people 10.5 million dollars each. And fuck the jew widows, dont let them take the payout.
> its a leaf thing

>>133647856
Yet, when nazism wasn´t established in the country, it evolved to a paradise for the (most) civillains. Communism just destroyed everything from the 20s until today.

Russia has even started praising Stalin as a great hero and savior of europe again

>>133647757
National socialists are seen as a greater threat by liberals and jews. Communist nations typically derp around in the third world until they implode without accomplishing anything other than civil strife.

>>133648915
>t. the Holodomor and Great Purge both killed 20 million people!!!1!1

>>133650370
Thats why I said "designed". Its like people don't even bother reading the thread.

>>133648389
Saved. That image needed to exist a century ago. That is exactly how it fucking works.

>>133649244
Let me guess, the all-knowing KGB operative interviewed by the universally discredited tinfoil hat group told you so?

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>really makes you think

>>133647757
Because communism is leftist and nazism is on the right. The prevailing culture in the west is extremely leftist, and so, despite killing orders of magnitude more people than nazism, communism is still considered a viable ideology.

>>133648876
It's not that communism supports people who don't work, as everyone was forced to work in communist Russia. It's that there was no incentive to succeed like in national socialism or capitalism. National socialism still had classes, where those who gave their all would have a better quality of life and more wealth than those who barely tried. The difference between national socialism and capitalism is that the classes in national socialism were closer (there were still rich people, but they'd only be 100x richer than the average person, rather than the 1000000s of times people like Bill Gates are).

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Because the Communists won WWII and history is erased and written by the victor.

>>133648906
>excuse every single part of their history
This is a normal day Russian Duma:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YIcMrcihvU

Please stop getting your news from (((them))).

>>133648906
I never tried to revise history, I merely answered the question OP stated. Its not like I support communism or anything.

because communism is hated more for good reason

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>>133650454
I don't think you quite understand how to use that mene.

>>133647757
Because the Nazis made movies.

>>133647757
It's more ecumenical.
It includes a lot of ppl under the same flag.

Basically, the main difference between communism and national socialisms is that communism was advocating a NWO of international flavour, whereas national socialisms focused on the idea of only one nation.

On top of that, communism was grounded on concepts that are workable no matter where you live or no matter the ethnic tensions. Because it is a poor VS. rich ideology... So it doesn't matter if the - - say - - Cyngaleses are oppressing the Tamil, because both have been swindled by the colonial system into hating each other.

Nat soc is a bit too difficult to have as a formal of international cooperation. Of course, you can have Nat soc in many countries, but each one will pursue its own separate goals.

Instead, communism tells you anyone who is being oppressed by MSM and world powers and multinational corps and rich people in general... Well... These oppressed people have all something in common that goes beyond cultural values.

I mean, isn't Communism the red pill... In a sense...

But of course this failed in predicting rebels could manage themselves without committing abuses (Stalin, to name one...).

But the idea every capitalist out there is ready to chuck you... Well, we owe socialism and trade unionism this red pill.

Current year libtards have only the aspect of spoiled child's pretending to be communists, but I doubt their struggle is truly proletarian.

>>133647960
And hasn't current year Germany a welfare system that owes more to real socialism than nazis?

>>133647757
Because Americans/Jews made them win.

>>133647757
because communists are the ones running the schools and the media. it is a cancer that wont go away.

>>133647856
that is the exact opposite of the truth and you know it ivan.
Nazism is a retarded, watered down, and more left wing version of fascism but it made an economic superpower when everyone else was suffering from a depression.

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>>133647757

I think you know the answer to that question.

>>133651778
I'm tired of replying, just read the thread

>>133647757
They were basically the same thing but Nazism was much straightforward than Communism. That's why academics love it, sounds good but they hide the bad parts.

>>133648541
It's only good in theory if you a shit-tier human with nothing going for you and you want everyone else to be brought down to your level.

>>133647757
>why isn't communism as hated as nazism ?

allied propaganda and a conflict of business interests. the cold war was a lie, western businesses were constantly funding the soviet system while said system was actively 'against' us.

Jews support communism.

>>133650190
In my country we don't even study the Holocaust in history class, actually, when we go through WW2 we just learn about the situation before the war and the main events that led to the allies' victory. Here All the "nazis are bad n shiieet" indoctrination comes from (((Hollywood))) movies.

>>133647757
Clearly you don't remember the 80's.

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>>133651894
then don't post retarded shit ivan. I've read the thread and your low IQ hasn't changed.

>>133647757
Because the jews won WWII.

Better red than dead

>>133651929
Not really, in theory it sounds pretty utopian

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hmmm really makes you think

>>133652169
>no arguments
Post ignored

>>133647856

FPBP

look at all the buttblasted nazi LARPers ITT

>>133648061
But aren't we confusing ideology and consequences?

>COMMUNISM
>progressive ideology
>faulty solutions, deaths, etc.
>NAZISM
>traditionalist ideology
>faulty solutions, deaths, etc.

At least communism advertised itself as having good intentions... Nazism was never kind in the beginning.

You forgive failure in those who meant good. But those who mean bad are frowned upon from the beginning.

## CONSIDER RELIGION ##
>why do we usually give Christianity a pass despite it having killed a bazillion people?
>why do we usually think Islam is bad without even having met an Islamic person?

Well, for a starter, Christianity has tolerance written in the gospels.
Instead, Judaism has the "only we are special" tag... Whereas Islam has the "kill. Them. All." label.

If you had to choose, which of the three would you allow in your dwelling? Certainly not the latter... Possibly not even the second. But the former? It's the safest a priori bet even if later it turns out to be a mass-murderer.

>>133647856
> Designed to create
> Creates poverty and suffering

>>133648947
You really want communism? Really? You want doctors to make the same wage as burger flippers? You want the government to control every aspect of civilian life? You want to be watched every day and every night? Someone combing every word you say and monitoring every person you talk to? Nobody can be this autistic

>>133652352
Carl Marx made communism for the sole purpose of DESTROYING capitalism because he was a lazy faggot. All communism is is taking everything nice your country has done and destroying it in the name of "progress." Read a book sometime.

>>133648992
Thank you good sir.

>>133647757
it is not hated by the left
every reasonable person acknowledges the crimes of communism

>>133647856
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH"breaths in" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>133649661
Holy shit you're fucking stupid.

You're probably one of those faggots who unironically says "wage-slavery". Newsflash: government enforced labor is far more oppressive than capitalist labor.

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>>133648015
if you make a shitty system that doesn't work in its own right, kill more people the Nazism ever did, then say WE WUZ DESINED CREATIN N SHI in doesn't change shit

>>133652453
>You forgive failure in those who meant good
it was never meant to be good for anyone who wasn't in the lowest tier of society and then it ended up being bad for them as well. That was the whole fucking point, to bring the high tier people down to the same level as a below-average jackoff.

>>133648329
Well the key tenant in Marxist theory is to stage a revolt/revolution to --destroy-- the Bourgeoisie/Ruling Class, and usher in a dictatorship led by the Proletariat, and consequently, somehow bring about a classless society held together by Communism. This is stated in chapter two of Marx' Communist Manifesto, and can be best seen when the Russian Bolsheviks took most of those ideals into play through the Russian Revolution of 1917.

So with that being said, Marx's theory states to destroy the status quo and usher in a new Communist society.

When put into play, denominations of Marx's theory of Communism destroy more than just the status quo, and end up destroying the lives of countless men, destroying individual rights in the name of collectivized "rights", and eventually destroying the prosperity of the state through economy, military, and domestic unrest. (for reference, observe the Prague Spring and other Bloc states, Russia's military status in the late Cold War, and the economic status of Russia which affected their military status at that time.)

>>133650999
Once the globalists have achieved their goals of eradicating the white race, not to mention the hundreds of millions that are unborn because of the "values" they preach, the hundred million dead on all of our sides will look like nothing in comparison.

I wonder: are we really going to sit by and do nothing while they replace, disenfrenchise and sometimes outright kill us? And then I look at London, which is already minority English, and Frankfurt, already minority German, and I know that yes, YES we will do nothing and go quietly into the night.

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fuck communism and fuck communists

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>>133648389
That's perfect

>>133647856
Rusposting.

>>133652809
Just because I answered OP's question, doesn't mean I actually want communism.

>>133647757
Mainly because it wasn't based on the hate of a certain group of people.

>>133647856
Isn't racism against the law in russia?

>>133653544
It is, unfortunately... And many people get jail time for that.

>>133647757
Jews, unironically.
They control the media and thus churn out holocaust-related shit like crazy. Everything is Hitler this, Hitler that. They have holocaust museums in every city. The communists never specifically targeted Jews and some might say Jews were integral in early communist thought. Thus, our media masters, the Jews, do not produce anti-communist media at anywhere near the rate as anti-fascist media.

>>133647856
Create what, a giant Death Camp?

>>133647757
>why isn't communism as hated as nazism
It literally fucking is. Maybe if you got off leftist twitter and talked to normal fucking people youd know this. No one fucking likes antifa and no one fucking likes neo nazis, both degenerates trying to destroy the first world

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>>133653388

>>133653365
would japan be the same today if this didn't happen?

>>133647856
Destroy what, communism?

>>133647757
Roses are Red
Democracy is Archaic
The entire Bolshevik movement was Judaic.

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>>133648255
This. I'm going to start going around saying Hitler's National Socialism/Facism isn't REAL NATSOC/Facism

>>133647757
because the premise of Nazism was that Germans were the superior race but then they lost to inferior races. One of the largest btfo's in human history

>>133648541
But it isn't. It's theoretically pure evil. Marx was a retard who was wrong about literally every single prediction he made.

>>133653763
Full of 30+ virgins?

>>133648451

This comment should be first. Because it is actually the correct answer.

>>133647757
They won

Because the kikes are commies.

>>133649406

Because of >>133648451

>>133647856
Fuck you rusjew.

>>133647856
>Communism was designed to create nazism

There. Fixed.

because every European over the age of 55 is still a shit eating commie faggot

>>133654136
That's how I read it at first, kek.

>>133649100
He's just larping. C'mon, don't tell me you think he's unironically gommie

>>133654136
Thats how it worked out eventually

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>>133647757
6million reasons

>>133653905
It's not pure evil. For example it's really really good for high level Jews.

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>>133653544

>>133654293
I used to think that was the guy from the 6 flags commercial

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>>133647757
Because one suppressed and disempowered jews, one was created by jews, and our media and universities are owned by jews. Any questions, class?

>>133648451
This is also kinda true, my sister goes to your average high school and she has to study the bolsheviks for the entire year, you won't be getting any mandatory course on the third Reich and their ideas, the Holocaust for sure though

>>133647856
>Communism was designed to create
Communism leads to forced labor gulags.

>>133647856
I'm starting to wonder if the russian posters are just some guy shitposting on his phone at work or a Russian propagandist agent.

>>133647757
because the communists won the war (ww2)

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>>133647757
Because they managed to take over half the world and were on the ''winning'' side in WW2.

Should have nuked Stalin and Mao of the face of the Earth right after WW2.

>>133653388
Sauce on the Picasso?

>>133654492
I'm starting to wonder if you didn't actually take the trouble to read the thread

>>133649098
being white is the rule, but there can be innumerable exceptions; to be fair, only a stupid white person would not judge somebody based on merit, character or any personal (arbitrary preference); i personally believe blacks have a place in the future of whatever will continue the timeline opened up by the NSDAP

Academia has been corrupted by Marxists. That's why.

Because, While communism is terrible, pretty much everyone is oppressed under communism, with Nazism, everyone else is oppressed while the 'Aryan race' is left to thrive. Racism<Equalized oppresstion

>>133654479
>designed
>leads
Those are two different thing, you know.

>>133654620
I replied to the second post. That should imply that I hadn't read the entire thread yet.

>>133654329
Is Putin an Israeli spy?

>>133647757
Because those fuckers won the war

>>133647757
Communism crumbles by itself, Nazism had to be fought.

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>>133647856
Not sure if retarded, troll or failed history class. Probably a third of everything.

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>>133654329
The Mossad has three heads.

>>133654967
Ok, I give up at this point...

>>133649564

Yeah but it's not really an accomplishment when all they did was buy shit from Germany, France, UK and the US to achieve that, paid for industrialization with food which in turn starved millions.

Basically they paid for industry with life without actually developing anything on their own until most industrialization was finished. I don't see how this is something to be admired.

Nazi Germany however did more than that without killing their own while their money was not allowed for international trade and then BTFO'd international banks with a barter system for trade. Then their economy became nearly stronger than that of the british and french empire combined while having lost a world war 20 years prior.

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>>133647856

>>133654818
In a nutshell - communism IN THEORY sounds good, nazism IN THEORY sounds bad.

>>133647757
Because of the hype behind ww2, that's literally it. Everything in this world is about advertisement. The sooner you understand that, the better off you'll be.

>>133655139
whom is the left guy?

They use big words that sound nice

>>133655263
Ok, point out where exactly I am retarded, go ahead

>>133648389
saved

>>133647757
It is if you know the truth. But kikes won war and they write history now.

>>133647757
"Communism" is nationalism for the Jews
Nazism is nationalism for the germs
Guess who won the war?

>>133647757
superagenda is to keep everyone dumb and dependant on the goverment. Technology will only speed this process up. I accept the black pill.

>>133655322
Israel.

>>133647757
Becuse communism is the ultimate politically correct ideology.

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>>133655322
this (((one)))

>>133648541
I understand what you're trying to say. It appeases to the irrational and allows them to virtue signal. You're not wrong.

On the surface communism sounds appealing and to the uniformed its the obvious choice. Even a little further investigation or thought experiment will reveal its completely pants on head retarded.

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>>133655378
You know full well that you're a faggot.

>>133655494
No. 4chan won the meme war. We write history now.

>>133655794
At least someone got what I was trying to get through. Thanks, anon.

>>133655525
Communism is anti-nationalism for the Goyim. If we can't have the country, no one does. Literally self destruct. Then they hop on a plane to Israel.

>>133647757
Jews.

>>133648781
Nazi's weren't really supremacist as much as they were leave us the fuck alone-ist. At least when it came to Juden.

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>>133651646
socialism is the seizure of the means of production, distribution and exchange, to be put under community control with no hierarchy.

It's not just being fucking nice to someone.

>>133656143
Nazis were survivalist. Literally boyscouts. Only problem is, they let morality get in the way. They were way too kind and naive.

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>>133655868
War doesn't change

>>133656311
>were
Germans still are naive af. They are like robots, you can kick them and they still wörk and pay taxes.

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>>133648678

>>133647757
PROTIP: it is

>>133653905
>>133654294

lol
it’s funny how indoctrinated americans are.. the word "evil" comes up all the time. It’s pretty much an indicator of what thoughts you’re fed over there.

You guys don’t realise (((Friedman))) - the proponent of a free market - helped destroy several south american country (which were well off economically), almost destroyed poland again economically (luckily the people there knew better and didn’t fully liberate markets after getting rid of soviet rule), destroyed the soviet union, iraq in 2003-2006, and indonesia.

All those countries were far better off economically before america started its freedom program. You fucking idiots.

>>133647757
They won the war.

>>133648451
this

>>133651646
Yeah, they were conquered by the Soviets after all. And look how this welfare system is at current tearing Germany to pieces.

>>133650111
trips of truth

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Because govt still wants to push socialist policies somehow

>>133652453
>At least communism advertised itself as having good intentions... Nazism was never kind in the beginning.
"At least" communism was dishonest while the Fascists were honest? How does this make communism better?

>>133650218
Capitalism is definitely a triumph of the will system. In its case, triumph comes as much from hard work as from innovation and efficiency. It's better to work hard on something that maximizes value and improves upon existing ideas than it is to bust your ass breaking rocks. Both are hard work. One makes innovation. The other makes gravel.

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communism is the kikes' vehicle for world domination you fucks

>>133647856
I kinda get what you're going for here.
Communism was intended to be an industrial, slave work force to build nations while National Socialism was built to conquer and destroy communism

>>133647757
It is in populations that lived under it, even more than nazism.

>>133647757
It's because US an UK allied with commies so they were not as demonized as nazis.

>>133647757
Because they fought on our side during ww2.
That's it.

>>133647757
Nazism is crusading, communism is for justice

>>133647757
Because Stalin, for everything he might've done wrong, still industrialized and turned a medieval shithole into a world superpower. Another thing is he didn't invade and fuck over most of Europe. Eastern Europe was literally handed to him on a silver platter as soon as Hitler was dumb enough to declare war on a guy who was NEVER going to attack him.

>>133660025

Uh...yeah, there was only this whole thing called The Cold War.

>>133649021
>support for a fake country

cringe

>>133647757
winners write the history books

>>133662018
>never going to attack him
Hitler forestall him for about 2 weeks according to former KGB officer. Why else would soviets place most of their air forces, including long range bombers, at the german border?

>>133663414
Source? Because most reliable historians confirm it was just Hitler's autism. Why would Soviet defense be so feeble initially, pretty much letting the Wehrmacht walk in? Stalin refused to believe that Hitler would ever attack him.

>>133662227
the problem is that most of historians separate WWII and post WWII events when they talk about WWII.

>>133649564
Great lie.
You gave this to them, Industry and the rest they stole from Poles and Germans

>>133648483
That's not how logic works

>>133663743
Except the USSR was industrializing long before the Germs invaded them. Cringe.

>>133663619
>Why would Soviet defense be so feeble initially, pretty much letting the Wehrmacht walk in?

Because they were not prepared to defend but to attack and then "liberate Europe from evil Nazis". It was Stalin's end game from the begining. The problem was that Hitler beat France in 6 weeks which Stalin thought would take as long as WWI. After those 6 weeks Stalin shit his pants.

>Source

For example Viktor Suvorov

>>133664182
>Viktor Suvorov (Russian: Bи́ктop Cyвópoв, real name Vladimir Bogdanovich Rezun, Russian: Bлaди́миp Бoгдáнoвич Peзýн, born April 20, 1947 in Barabash, Primorsky Krai) is a Russian writer, an amateur historian and a former Soviet military intelligence officer who defected to the United Kingdom. Suvorov made his name writing Icebreaker and several follow-up books on history of World War II.
>amateur
>defector

Yep I'm sure he had 0 bias against the Soviet leadership and was totally not used by the US/UK for the propaganda during the Cold War of having to keep the Red Hordes at bay. Not at all.

>>133647757
Better PR team. Also general ignorance.

>>133647757
It is, but our media is full of and run by leftists who won't treat it the same way. Part of that, of course, is because there are still commie countries that we don't really want to piss off even more for the sake of Hollywood memes. Not that we really care about upsetting commies, it's just those two factors together temper the rhetoric. The rhetoric was much more blunt during the Cold War when we felt enough threat coming from the USSR and we went full on purge. Maybe perspective is different for millennials.

>>133664182
>Hitler inadvertently saved Europe from communism by attacking Stahlin before he could march into Europe.

>>133647856
b-but that's not what happened, is it?

>>133647757
nazism is just a faction of communism.

communism is the worst cancer that has befallen on humanity, and it is not as hated as one fringe part of it.

it's retarded

Because Natc wasn't create by (((them)))

>>133647757
Because its not relevant anymore and the commies never killed our people like the Nazis did.

>>133664422
How else would Stalin spread revolution than invading?

>>133649244
Longer version
https://youtu.be/y3qkf3bajd4

>>133665034
Stalin wasn't interested in spreading the revolution. He promoted Socialism in One Country. If you had Trotsky he would've invaded Europe and you'd have had your ebin internationalist commie boogeyman, but Stalin wasn't that.

>>133664637
Consider stalin attacking first and "liberating" not only Poland but also France and Germany. They tried to do it in 1919 but we stopped them somehow.

>>133665324
>Stalin wasn't interested in spreading the revolution.
>annex baltic states
>invade Poland
>invade Finland

>>133665359
CRINGE

It was about Russian nationalism. Stalin wanted the borders of the old Russian Empire. They didn't give a fuck about enforcing an ideology on Poland, but they got a free puppet state after Churchill went 'sure okay' so why not put in a puppet leader as well?

Just admit your problem is with Russians (and Germans) fucking your country. I'm not going to defend vehemently everything the USSR did. There's facts that it improved the country from the old medieval-tier Russian Empire.

>>133654581
it's fake m8

>>133665815
Stalin was interested in restoring the old borders of the Russian Empire.

>>133647757
It is. I hate communism way more than nazism.

Hate islam more than the other two, though.

>>133647856
haha

>>133647757

because they won

>>133668016
bingo

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>>133647757
Jews

>>133647757
nazism is objectively better than communism

>>133648651
> If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible

>>133668016
what did they win?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg1kFqWAbWc

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>>133647757
(((Pure coincidence)))

Because society is controlled by (((communists))) All of the media are presently promoting cultural marxism: degenerate filth to strip away whatever remains of the Catholic faith that built Western civilization.

>>133647757
Because Stalin BTFO Hitler.

FUCKING JEWS

LITERALY JEWS

Because a lot of spoiled idiots think communism means they will get free housing, car and everything else at the expense of rich people
Also that they will be some of the people in charge

Reality is the few of the idiots who didnt end up dead or jailed would find themselves forced to actually work instead of sit around in college or at home on welfare telling people how awesome communism is

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Commies will never be human


Inshallah.

>>133666333
>based numbers do not lie

>>133647757
Communism was really hated for a longtime but Globalism wanted to hide the communist tactics they use to take over countries, thus communism is not really talked about. Except for socialists behind closed doors praising communism.

>>133647757
Because communism won.

>>133670664
Catholicism is doing a good job of destroying Catholicism .

Marxism is destroying western culture though