Is there any reason we shouldn't be 100% partners with Russia?

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Honorary Anglos.

There are many reasons. Mainly, because Russia's goal is the destruction of the unity among Western countries and thus the isolation of the United States.

>>133640425
Well, USA already is half black, so I guess you can get white niggers too.

>>133640752
I thought the Irish were white niggers (I'm irish btw)

Might as well, almost voted in a communist as your president anyways so it cant be an ideological difference.

>>133640827
You clearly don't live near russians.

They're the ONE country with more nukes than us so no.

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>>133640752
>>133640908

>Finnish nigger
>Complaining about Russian niggers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History

This is the actual theoretical reason. I don't see any historical evidence for it, though. Most of the pivot area seems to hurt Russia more than it helps.

>>133641169
>hides behind EU flag
I just know my neighbors, sven.

>>133640908
A fucking F*nn appears to shitpost about Russia.
Why am I not surprised?

>>133640425
> t. american nigger
Why should we be partners with Nigger states of America?
Russians hate you. Those who don't, are (((5th column))) and traitors. Most of them are in jail.

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Our God Emperor will turn you into radioactive ash

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>>133641338

>>133641471
Better question: should you?

>>133640425
>Is there any reason we shouldn't be 100% partners with Russia?

That is like asking why shouldn't be 100% partners with ISIS.

What we know as Modern russia (post after Boris Yeltsin) has not been around long enough to be trustworthy given the ideological differences of our governments and that whole cold war thing .. we would probably consider closer ties after like 10 or so more democratic elections

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>>133640560

>>133641547
>>133641704
This slavnigger gets it.
Russians and Americans are destined to be enemies. You cannot argue with fate.
Also, stop falling for the "based Russia xd" /pol/ memes. Russians are disgusting, vodka addicted neo-niggers. They're not even really white.

>>133641910
>) has not been around long enough to be trustworthy

It's the opposite modern Russia has been on the opposite sides of almost every conflict america has been in. They don't gain anything from supporting NK or Assad, but they do it in spite of the U.S.

>>133640425
>Is there any reason we shouldn't be 100% partners with Russia?
Because Putin is a lying sack of shit
Because being "partners" means he's fucking us over.
Putin is constantly provoking war with the US with his cyberwarfare attacks on America and his repeated threat to annihilate the West with nuclear war.

The right-wing conservative Republicans might be on their knees worshiping the Kremlin and sucking Putin's cock, but everyone else knows better than to trust him.

>>133640662
wut
>>133640752
13% but ouch
>>133640827
You have to go back.
>>133640831
Holy fuck you are one to talk little bro.
>>133641844
We already consider Israel our most important ally so what the fuck are you talking about? We should dump Israel for Rudsia anyways.

>>133641844
In what way is it like that?

>>133642053
Current Russian commie government are 1actually 00% PRO-WEST. They're steal money from THE people and send to their children living in EU/USA.

>>133642227
*100%

>>133640425
Doing business with the russians is no different to doing business with the chinese. Youre gonna get ripped off.

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They have literally nothing to offer but beet soup and old lady porn.

>>133641844
Rebbit retard confirmed. Any actual arguments as to why we shouldn't be partners?

>>133640662
This is what globalist kikes say.
The truth is they are for uniting the west against the banking jews trying to commandeer all sovereignty for themselves.

>>133640425
yes

Russia still hold a major grudge against the West for the whole cold war thing and losing. Putin is an ex KGB Officer who has not forgotten what it meant to be defeated.

Boris Yeltsin was the closest we came to having good relations with the Ruskies because he pushed for the elite to adopt a Democratic/Republican approach to their problem solving endeavors.

Putin almost decided to be allies but a series of blunders on both sides back in the 90's led to a total mistrust of one another and now it will be like this for a long time.

The Russians do not have our best interests at heart.

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>>133640425
Zapad 2017.

>>133642053
>Russians and Americans are destined to be enemies. You cannot argue with fate.
but see >>133642045 we allied together and defeated the Aryan menace twice, and emasculated them the second time, along with their Honoraryan allies, and President Reagan and Premier Gorbachëv were good buddies who ngeotiated nuclear disarmament, and despite being the two most crazy scary Empires in history (NATO and Warsaw pact) we never let local engagement drag us into full scale war like a literal first in world history. Russians aren't are natural enemies. They simply aren't. History proves it.

The memory is still too fresh about pro-russian forces shooting down a passenger jet with a russian BUK in Ukraine.
As long as the ruskies keep denying that the dutch won't cooperate im afraid.

>>133640425
Your partnership means fuck all.

We already to be partners after the cold war and we were worse off than before.

>>133642792
Sorry about that. It wasn't our fault. You know who rules us. :(

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Will our nukes combined, we will obliterate the enemy

>>133642220
>In what way is it like that?

Russia and america don't really get along. They never had since the cold war.

>>133642531
They want to destroy our govt. This isn't a hur dur Trump thing. Russia's distrust and hatred for the U.S. govt hasn't changed since the cold war.

Anthropomorphizing a political relationship is silly, they are largely opposed to American interests, but that doesn't mean every interaction with them is a negative.

>>133642189

>This is what liberals actualy believe

>>133642994
Which American interests. Be specific. And Israel doesn't count.

>>133642724
The Russian elite and military high command almost dragged us into a 3rd world war on several occasions actually. Brezhnev's term was filled with conspiracies to do so.
Nuclear disarmament didn't work at all. It just got more organized.
NATO and Warsaw pact basically had no local engagements, instead the Soviets were massacring satellite states populations by the thousands, While Americans poured billions into the economies of the Western states to keep people chilled out.
Gorbachev and Reagan were not buddies. They just happened to be the two most powerful state actors on Earth and Gorbachev knew his system was kaput. He was trying to ease the transition.

>>133642867
It was 100% our fault. Stop blaming Jews for everything it makes you sound retarded and lose all credibility.

Should we be fighting the Russians? No. But it's the way it's going to be for a long time.

>>133642684
>The Russians do not have our best interests at heart.
Very true, but I would support russia against the american govt and any patriotard golems

>>133643346
>Should we be fighting the Russians? No. But it's the way it's going to be for a long time.

Spoiler we are fighting Russia now.

>>133643202
Israel does count you idiot. And btw Russians are not opposed to Israel as much as you think.

Their interest with Europe, the ME, EA, Latin America, literally anything we want to do in the world the Russians are on the other side.

Sometimes for good reason, mostly for not.
I'm a former commie block fag, stop worshiping Putin you cunt. It's embarrassing.

>>133640662
Russia has more in common with U.S. than Europe/China. Both nationalist countries, majority white and Christian.

We should have beers and open borders with Russia.

>>133643580
There are countless books written about why this can't happen anytime soon.

The if's and why nots don't matter when you don't trust eachother and constantly meddle in eacother's affairs.

literally 0 reason not to
youre retarded if youre believing cold war propaganda in 20 fucking 17

>>133643346
>Gorbachev knew his system was kaput. He was trying to ease the transition.
He did bring about the USSRs collapse, albeit the country couldnt sustain itself against the US for more then a decade or two more. He tried and failed to modernize it then a year later integrate it into the globalist system

>>133642189
> but everyone else knows better than to trust him.
America is the one country you cannot trust. You can trust every other country in the world to act in rational self-interest except America. You can trust Putin to look out for ethnic Russians and the countries close to Russia. You can trust Israel to stab you in the back out of a neurotic desperation for self-preservation. But our foreign policy, our wrath or our beneficence, is bestowed upon the world by the decree of a random number generator weighted in Israel's favor.

>>133643692
Until Obama's sanctions, we were doing quite well.

We meddle in their shit as well. It's a weird love affair, but even a dysfunctional relationship can have merits.

>>133643744
He was ahead of his time. He didn't believe in the concept of kicking the can down the road.

He saw it's eventual collapse, the system was rotting from the inside and it was literally just a matter of time.
He choose to be a part of the change rather than die not knowing or watch his country fall into countless war, chaos and possible total annihilation in his geriatric years. If Gorbachev didn't move in the direction he did we would be seeing a far worse fate for lots of people today.

>>133640425
You don't trust a r*ssian.

>>133643898
But that's the point. If it was a total hatred we would already be at war. We work with the Russians more than MSM would like the American public to believe. But boogeymen are good for keeping a populace in check and pre occupied.

The Russian and Americans have tons of interests aligned and they make do with it 24/7. But Russia is the only other real superpower on earth, even today so of course there will be drama.

>>133643564
You literally didn't name a single interest.

And we DIDN'T go to war despite people on both sides itching to. The result fucking counts. And I'm Ruthenian and even I think you sound like a stupid fucking хoхoл right now. America and Russia can live side by side in peace and friendship in separate countries and separate developments.

>>133643784
>You can trust Putin to look out for ethnic Russians

You can trust Putin to use that as a weak fucking excuse to destabilize the Baltic states internally, creating a crisis that neutralizes Article V of the NATO treaty so he can invade and reclaim Tsarist Russia because he's a delusional megalomaniac.

ftfy, 55 Savushkina Street, St Petersburg dweller with a proxy.

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>>133640425
That would mean pushing Russia and the EU closer together, which is something the US doesn't want, since such an alliance would eventually challenge American hegemony.

>>133644193
I'm not going to do your homework for you buttfuck.

As stated earlier countless books have been written on the subjects. Look it up you illiterate faggot

>>133640425
You obviously can be partners with Russia.
You should just lose this naive USA + Russia <3 bff forever kind of nonsense some retards keep believeing. Putin and other Russian leaders are smart and their goal is to make Russia stronger on the world stage, but at least in their wider region. USA and Russia have many conflicting interests especially when it comes to spheres of influence.
And international politics is not just a black and white thing where countries are either enemies or friends, and a partnership doesn't mean either of the two. So sure you can be partners.

>>133643916
He really screwed up in 1990-1991 letting yeltsin have free reign and disband the country when they could have kept some republics

This thread only exist because people we know that it wont be long till Trump's connections with Russia are confirmed.

>>133644209
I'd tell you the state I live in but there are so few Carpatho-Ruthenian churches in the United States you'd 100% be able to dox me you fucking CIA fuckwit. Stop sewing discord and hatred among the nations, Ιούδας. Your inheritance has been taken and given to another.

>>133644155
dont forget about china, those fucks are up to somethin behind that wall i swear

>>133644462
Lots of mistakes have been made. You live and you learn. Belarus and the Stan Republics, particularly Kazakhs should have never been disbanded.

>>133640425

Because being 100% partners with us isn't Russia's aim you fucking cuck

>>133644063
Why wouldn't you trust yourself?

>>133644545
China is a regional power. Not a superpower. They can't project their strength beyond their immediate borders, and even with that they struggle.

The Chinese are trying to modernize. The Russians are dirt poor but they are still ahead of the game against the Chinese in many facets.
Chinese wealth also almost totally comes from U.S. manufacturing, it's one of the primary reasons they are so heavily invested in African neo colonialism.
They understand the U.S. holds too much sway. and relying on the Russians and Persians for their raw resources is a crap shoot as well.

That being said, that won't go too well either. The Europeans warned the Chinese about getting into Africa too deep. Shits already been cleaned to the bone pretty extensively.

They will do what they will though.

>>133644935
Everything from Mexico is low quality, even the bait.

>>133644530
pittsburgh?

>>133640425
how can you trust a nation that hacks your elections

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>>133640425
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

>Yury Felshtinsky, Alexander Litvinenko, Boris Berezovsky, David Satter and Vladimir Pribylovsky claim that the 1999 bombings were a false flag attack coordinated by the FSB in order to win public support for a new full-scale war in Chechnya (while Boris Kagarlitsky claims the bombings were coordinated by the GRU).

He's a terrorist that bomb honest hard working christian civilians. We have a policy in this country not to work with terrorists.

http://archive.is/b40eJ

>>133644530
I go to the Estonian Lutheran Church in Sterling Heights, MI.

>>133640425
They have an economy smaller than fucking Italy and simply wish to manage a US decline.

>>133645243

>Yury Felshtinsky, Alexander Litvinenko, Boris Berezovsky, David Satter and Vladimir Pribylovsky

oy vey

>>133645184
Ahhh the home country. Warms my heart to hear it mentioned.
>>133645204
I, for one, do not trust the State of Israel.

>>133645243

they didn't provide any proof though, that is the same thing as 9/11 conspiracies that george bush blew up the towers just to kill a couple of brown kids in Iraq

>>133644963
Agreed.

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>>133640425
competing interests.
They want oil up, we want it down.
They are allied with Iran and Best Korea
They want us out of places where we want to be.
you can argue the value of friendship with Saudi vs Iran all day but Russia will always have different interests.

>>133645204
proofs?

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>>133644963
>China
>Regional power

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Is war with Russia inevitable? Why would we ever go to war with them? They're not morally evil like ISIS.

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>>133645430
Go and read where they are now. Each one of those men were assassinated, and not in a 'maybe it was anassination we might never know', these were straight cold blooded murders meant to send a message. But by means keep being fooled by your jew masters that bomb innocent christian civilians.

>>133640425
(((american politicians))) won't have it, they're too white and too christian

>>133645359
The Lithuanians are all right but now I'm find with the кaцaпoв conquering you and converting you to пpaвocлaвниe.

>>133642970
>Russia wants to destroy our government
Retard statements like this without any basis in fact are the mark of a Redditor. Modern Russia hates communists and are happy that the yoke of socialism is gone. Russians are resentful of team America world police and liberal moral judgment passing just like any other country. Russia supports international sovereignty while the US likes to control whose in power in what country. Trumps message that we should stop being world police resonated with a lot of people, people realize however that a complete reversal can't be done in one day, it's a steady process

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>>133645508
they did though. The plastic explosive used had serial numbers that were traced back to FSB ammunition warehouses near Ryazan. also see>>133645860
each person investigating the bombings were assassinated

you would have to be a Russian to not see what is going on. Go away ivan

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html

>At 9 p.m. sharp, there should be a crowd of people walking outside the building,” she said. “Nine p.m. sharp.” One Russian newspaper put the number of employees at 400, with a budget of at least 20 million rubles (roughly $400,000) a month. During her time in the organization, there were many departments, creating content for every popular social network: LiveJournal, which remains popular in Russia; VKontakte, Russia’s homegrown version of Facebook; Facebook; Twitter; Instagram; and the comment sections of Russian news outlets. One employee estimated the operation filled 40 rooms.

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I feel bad for gullible Westerners thinking that you can be friends with russkies. I guess you'll have to get buttfucked by them before you understand.

>>133646240
Let's archive it
https://archive.is/6Y5J2

>>133646304
already did

http://archive.is/b40eJ

>>133642953
Lol. China GDP > (USA + Russia) GDP

>>133640425
Bc if there's no external boogie man how would either govt keep their plebs in check

>>133644209
NATO was the counterpoint to the Warsaw Pact. Soviet Russia is dead, the second that happened NATO became obsolete. NATO is a sham, the only reason it exists is because of the military industrial complex. If I were Russia I'd be fucking pissed that not only does NATO still exists, its constantly expanding its territories and powers. The west runs coups and installs puppet regimes friendly to NATO, look at what happened with Ukraine

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>>133646304
Din homse.

>>133646254
> t. dirty fin
We'll deal with you right after Ukrane and Poland.

>>133640425
Muh imperialism and petrodollar, basically.

If you don't like the idea of a Beast, a world hegemony, if you're not a neo-liberal, the yeah. Russia is fine.

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>>133646589
Molon labe.

>>133640425
Nope, Trump and Putin should draft a merger. Boosting up to 150+ states sounds like an excellent idea to me. How quickly would the rest of the world show true contrition for their hostilities against us and present proper homage?

>>133646254
What does 'being friends' mean? Diplomatic ties and the label of 'allies'? That already exists. The Russians are globally powerless

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>>133640425
no

>>133646751
It means
>end proxy war in Syria
>end economic war via sanctions
>pull back military assets from Russia's doorstep

>>133646692
>Molon labe.
We will. Very soon.
What can you shitty ratty snipers do against nukes?

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>>133646589
Come on slavnigger.
I dare you, no, I doubledare you to try your luck.

>>133646721
Good idea, anon. Besides, Russia has huge territory that they don't know how to use. It is obviously mismanaged. Once a little bit of American entrepreneurship enters the Russia, it will flourish. Siberia will be one of the most confy places on the planet.

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>>133642189
>Rebbit, the post

>>133646721
Where did you learn English, comrade?

>>133647066
>>133646692
If we will be loosing, we destroy all world. That's how we deal with shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Ku54P4HC0

>>133640425

Because boomers are too scared of them.

>>133641844
Sorry Anon.
ISIS is united kikes of america's pet, so the question you typed belong to russians. Unless trump make some changes.

>>133640425

Because our geopolitical interests are fundamentally opposed to each other

How you cannot see this is beyond me

>>133647173
That;s not how you dealt with it the last time you tried to take over Finland. Stop larping. This whole board has too many larpers. OP larping as a pro Russian America alliance, you larping like you can defeat the Fins in conventional warfare. Just stop guys. Illusions of grandeur do nothing for you irl.

>>133647173
So after we hand your ass back to you, you will wipe everyone?

Sweet.

>>133642053
>Russians and Americans are destined to be enemies
We were friends with them up until the revolution.
America's real enemy are Latin Americans.

>>133647432
Yes, we will*.
We didn't lose any war in our GREAT HISTORY.
* better die than live in russia.

>>133647479
America's beef with Latin America started after the Russians sowed seeds of socialism in Latin America for the sole purpose of keeping the United States pissed and pre occupied.

>>133647246
CIA still tries to help ISIS out but once Trump got into office we turned on ISIS and stopped resupplying them and providing air support for them. Trump is still Assad neutral sadly and backs the Kurdish rebels heavily because of our efforts in northern Iraq and Syria against ISIS.

Trump was an improvement to Obama's inability to get the deep state to stop supporing ISIS. Trump has still be thwarted and some still go behind his back but he's very anti-ISIS but not anti-Syrian rebels in general, but not very anti-Assad.

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>>133646254
Why are Finns so butthurt about Russia? There have been no conflicts between the countries since WW2. Finland stays neutral and it is respected. We have a lot of trade, before the sanctions we were Finland's biggest trade partner or something. Not to mentions plenty of Finns shitfaced drunk in St. Petersburg, and vice versa.
Why are valioniggers so retarded in this regard?

idk considering russia still murders journalists who try to uncover corruption

it's a shithole

>>133647568
Man, compared to manpower and wargear, we are like an level 1 rat, and you are like the level 99 bear.

And we still kicked your ass.
I say COME AT ME, SISTER.

>>133647794
What's the temperature in Finland right now?

>>133647794
You're traitors first of all.
You used to be dumb scum living in caves. We made you civilized.

>>133647737
And? That's their problem, not ours. We're allies with china and Saudi Arabia, you think their human rights records are flawless? The US is pissed Russia is the only one who stands up to the neolib world government engineering and Russian energy reserves

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>>133647373

Because the corporation known as the United States of America has fundamental currency (and consumption) issues and we keep trying to stopgap it by any means necessary.

>>133647568

I'd rather have light again, dying is pretty shitty. But we can go that route if you want to.

>>133647886
14c

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>>133647710
It is strange IMO, I feel y'all should be more upset with them for embarrassing your army with a few hunters and sleds. But the way they act it's as if they wanted to be the Nazi's allies or something

>>133648052
What the fuck?
When did you become a swede?

>>133648124
56 in (F)reedom Units.

>>133647794
With MI-24s there isn't a possibility of another White Death. Your heroes are dead.

>>133646721

Let's help the Russians and buy Siberia

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iWNFTenKcREJ:articles.latimes.com/1992-07-19/opinion/op-4526_1_mount-rushmore+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=kr

>>133640425
Nope!

>>133648186
What the fuck?
Russians made you civilized. Not that shitty swedes

>>133648070
There 2 options:
1. USA must give US all Eastern europe + Finland + Tsargrad. Then you must pay us shit tons of reparations.
2. Death to world.

What will you choose, my sweety???

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>>133644625
Not many wanted in the first place

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>>133640425
no but we never will. he went rouge and against (((them))). hopefully president donald trump, president jared kushner, president ivanka trump and god emperor barron trump can destroy the (((deep state)))

>>133648422
Oh my fucking god you and the swedes are like two bickering parents who have divorced and now you are both fighting witch one of you retards taught your genius son.

>>133648618
Finland is retarded son

>>133648124
Jesus that sucks.

>>133648235
I'm aware of the it but thank you. I've never heard the term freedom units and will be using it from now on.

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>>133648817
Autistic =/= Retarded, Anon Ivanovich.

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>>133648422

So you're following Dear Leader's playbook now?

>>133648422

>gib gib gib
>death to the world!

>>133646462
USA GDP: $17 Trillion
China GDP: $10 Trillion
Russia GDP: $1 Trillion

>>133649072
Nominal GDP sucks.
GDP PPP:
China: 25 trillion
USA: 18 trillion
Russia: 4 trillion

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>>133648817
And still all russian girls want my BMC (Big Mongol Cock) rather than your PRS (Pathetic russian shrimp)

>>133640425
there probably are but it would be good nonetheless

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>>133640662
>Russia's goal is the destruction

Russia isn't doing shit to us, fuck you

>>133640827
1/80 irish you mean

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>>133649408
I once dated a Ukrainian grill (kind of a NatSoc) who would only date Swedish and Finnish diaspora because she said we had the "best cocks."

>>133649371
China's GDP is unsustainable. China's GDP = United States consumption.

I'm the furthest from a slavboo you can get, but I'd much rather be allies with Russia than enemies.

In the Navy, and I was talking with some of my buds about this the other day. We would much rather fly missions over the middle east and bomb filthy mudslides than bomb slavs. Plus, if I get shot down over Russia, at least I have a chance at decent treatment and making it out alive.

>>133650025
No. China feeds USA. American GDP = Chinese production.
China rules the world.

>>133650245
>China feeds USA.
Have you ever looked up food politics? We can starve a whole lot of nations to death by ceasing exports. Sure our economy will be shit but we can still grow non-toxic food without a problem. This is the reason we need to BTFO China out of Africa to deny them food security.

Oh look, its another "eternal slav" thread

Get fucked t_d cucks

>>133640662
/thread

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>>133650617
I didn't vote Trump but I had a grandfather in the Winter War who taught me to never trust Russians and he's always been right. Every fucking Russian I have ever met is nothing but fucking scum.

>>133640662
This would never happen within any of our lifetimes

>>133640752
loser in life huh? don't have anything else other than being white?

top kek

>>133649072
He may be talking about PPP (purchasing power parity). China overtook the U.S. as the worlds biggest economy in 2014 according to PPP.

>>133650779
syka blyad

>>133651358
Even if the only thing I had in life was my whiteness, I would still have achieved more than you ever will, jamal.

>>133643450
>>>133642684
>>The Russians do not have our best interests at heart.
>Very true, but I would support russia against the american govt and any patriotard golems

I wouldn't go that far but I'm definitely game to improve relations with Russia

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>>133650779
I met an American once, but he also seemed to me a selfish asshole. And I think this is the essence, your ideology is selfishness ours is collectivism, therefore we will not be allies.

>>133654170

>your ideology is selfishness ours is collectivism,

It's more that ours mentality is "it could be better" and yours is "it could be worse"

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Russia opposes the principle of white, Protestant republicanism, the founding ideas of our country. We've beat them numerous times and we'll do it again if we have to, just look at all the russomongols in this thread pretending their third world country is better than ours, we can easily subdue Putin if we have to, and the rest of the West will always support us.

>>133654170

Пpывыeт

>>133654170
the problem with russians is that they don't give a fuck, that's why democracy failed in russia, nobody gave a fuck. You ever watch the dashcam videos of that huge fucking meteor that flew over Russia, turning night into day? Nobody even stops, nobody cares, could be the world ending but Ivan doesn't care, all he wants is the sweet embrace of the void and his vodka. The people who cared were killed off either on the eastern front or by the commies. The only people who remain are empty shells who have no regards for anyone or anything. That is the essence of a Russian.

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>>133654170
I've met dozens of Ruskies and not one of them was a civil human bean.

The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinaman or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them, except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk.

>>133654746

>>133654505

It really is this, tbqh.

Everybody makes it all emotional, but it boils down to a half empty/half full dichotomy.

>>133640425
Because we have to be pragmatic about it.
It is naive to think that the interests U.S. and Russia's allign 100%.
Cooperation should be strived for, when it is mutually beneficial but with the assumption that both countries have their own interests closest at heart.
The opposing view, that Russia our worst enemy, is warmongering propaganda, abused to further a politcal agenda, I do not believe it. But they should be recognized as a foreign competitor at the geopolitical scene, but in some cases also an ally.

>>133654585
>We've beat them numerous times
Can you give an example?
>>133654782
Good bait.

>>133640425
>leader of NATO, building hundreds of military bases around Rusia

Hey, Vlad, just a prank, bro! Can't we just be friends regardless? MAGA

>>133640425


Putin kicked out jews out of russia


https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/11/opinion/masha-gessen-the-myth-of-the-russian-oligarchs.html
Every claim that he is somehow a zionist is moronic. Yes, he had a kippa on once, when he was visited by zionists, but the latter want him dead like Ghaddafi.

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>>133640425
They're our bros desu. Being stuck on the other side of the world from one another is ridiculous. How did this happen? We must rectify the situation immediately.

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>>133640425
Russia.

Learn some fucking history.

They are a cancer. A cancer playing every side.

Have some fucking pride and edcuate yourself.

Propaganda babies

>>133640662
If you read up on the history of the Cold War, you'll get a better idea of russia and America's relationship. The Russians were always a step ahead, but the US was an up-and-coming espionage power. That's why Russia was so concerned with subversion--they feared the US rising up and outdoing them.

Russians are masters of spycraft, though. Any kind of alliance with them would have to be one in which the Russians were watched very, very carefully.

>>133646304
Based Norwegiarchive.

>>133655559
It's only because they're so far away. Look at their neighbours and you can begin to understand.

>>133640662
Isn't that what Germany is doing now?

>>133655736
>Russians are masters of spycraft, though.

Indeed. Germany is full of russian spys, particulary Chechens who were "fleeing" from russian oppressors but having lots of friendly contacts to Kadyrov.

Hmm, suspicious? I think not. Better get them visas because they are just refugees right?!

>>133640425
Shouldn't really be "100% partners" with anyone. Though it should be rather telling that the same people, who talk about how modern Russia is "the greatest threat to the US", are the same people who didn't have any problems with the USSR.

>>133654782
you're obviously being hyperbolic, but there is some truth there. The Russian resides geographically between Europe and Asia, and I think he dwells there genetically as well. He is a half Euro, half Asian hybrid. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but their mentality is definitely distinct from proper Europeans.

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>>133640425

>Russia was trying to influence the election!

And the treasonous DNC and the MSM were trying to rig it

We must never forget that the DNC is currently involved in a plan of obstructionist treason in an attempt to overthrow our government. Simply because they did not win the election.

It's time to call them out on their treason. This cannot be taken lightly.

>>133647636
>America's beef with Latin America started after the Russians sowed seeds of socialism in Latin America for the sole purpose of keeping the United States pissed and pre occupied.

Our beef with Latin America goes back to the late 1800s, which was before the rise of marxism. Do you not remember the time when America and Mexico went to war?
Remember the Alamo, friend.

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>>133656009
Just read some of the mitrokhin documents.

/pol/ just loves the political pandering too much.

I fucking miss the pre-election crowd.

>>133645666
Sure Pasta. Send yourself over and try pulling some shit on behalf of Taiwan, see what happens.

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>>133657946
I just look at them and see white people, at face value. It's like, imagine we whites came from a different planet, like the fucking Dranei in world of Warcraft, they landed in some different part of the world. I dont believe in god so that is the best example I can come up with. Most of us landed (ended up) here, around Europe and they landed far, far away. Maybe they were colluding with the Indians or the Chinese. My mind just boggles how they ended up where they are. Face value. Bros. Forever. If you are against Russia, you are not my friend. I do not care how weird that may sound, I am deadly serious.

Geopolitics forces these two nations to be a competitor. In a simple term for trumpanzees to understand, you can't have two chefs in the kitchen. One will always try to influence and dominate.

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>>133655043
We virtually destroyed your country due to competition leading up to the fall, all the while it was only a minor inconvenience for us.

>>133659166
>holding Russians above Western Europeans

This is what larping does to you.

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>>133660180
Wtf are you, some kind of brown eyed, black haired ape from Africa? Want a banana son?

>>133660459
Funny story: after the fall of the Wall, East Berliners were give "Welcome Marks" by the West and all of the supermarkets ran out of bananas and could not keep them in stock for a week.

Most East Germans had never eaten one before.

>>133648463
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Why is it every time Russians post a map of Crimea, it is always a part of Ukraine?

>>133660795
That's what happens when you're so, so far away from civilization. Sad. I did laugh though. We must ensure this never happens again.

>>133660922
what? Crimea was part of Ukraine SSR since 1954 until 2014. It only makes sense that most maps especially of USSR would have Crimea as Ukraine.

>>133661050
There's a great TV mini-series called "Deutschland '83." It centers around an East German soldier being sent to spy in West Germany and discover what Able Archer 83 was (and it accurately portray's Moscow's fear it was an invasion and that they initiated CASE: Ryan).

The culture shock for the spy is some of the greatest moments in the show.

>>133640425
Incompatible civilizational models.
USA homogenizes cultures
robs them of land/resources needed for autonomous development
-so homogenized majority can consume more of the same kinds of stuff.
Russia values preservation of traditional culture
more than consumer goods.
Dugin explained it, but consuming is so ingrained it doesn't register.

>>133661385
I have never heard of it until now. Sounds interesting but, like most TV, I can see right through the actors, pretending to be characters and it bores me. I'd rather watch cops or the airport security catching drug smugglers. Australian airports are the best. All those Chinese getting locked up.

>>133661986
I'm not big into TV either, but if you're a Cold War buff it's worth watching.

One of my favorite scenes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghmdviatN_0

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>>133662379
Women. Every time hah. I might check it out thanks. It won't change my opinion of Russia at all though. I need something to watch whilst waiting for new Monday Night RAW.

>>133662379
This looks like a pretty fun watch

>>133662956
It does display immigrants as obnoxious shits, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwdP3GVWK7o

For me, I'm just killing time until Hockey starts. Thinking about giving Generation Kill a look.

>>133640425
No. Russia should be our ally in taking down the EU.

>>133663081
It makes me wax nostalgic for the Cold War. I enjoyed it enough that I found myself rooting for the Commie.

Warning: contains homosex, but 1983 homosex, if you know what I mean...

This scene doesn't: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg8zglIb2h4

i love all these manipulative posts to get you faggots to love putin.

almost as if there's a coordinated effort by trolls to fuck with you. *WINK* *WINK* you fucking faggots.

>>133663386
It's somewhat surreal to see cold war series in hd. I always associate it with the now shitty video quality series/movies/documentaries I saw as a kid on tv. But yeah, I get the nostalgia. One of my favourite time periods in history.

>>133663403
CNN pls go.

>>133663753
Yeah, I wish there was more good Cold War fiction. I can watch Hunt for Red October everyday.

>>133641471
>Oyy blyat' shut it down rusophobe!

>>133664403
I went to watch that once, at band camp. Within the first five minutes, guy walks into the room. Some seriously, rated *actor* It is absolutely pissing with rain outside, thunder, lightning etc. Within the first five minutes. So he walks into the room, from the abysmal weather outside. Guy in the room says *oh, come in, you look absolutely terrible* ... Seriously? His hair was perfect, he looked like he'd just stepped out of a modelling catalogue, hardly even wet? I switched it off. Ridiculous.

>>133640425
>not supporting the complete takeover of the United States by Russia

because itd make the fossil fuel industry happy and we need to stop using fossil fuels

>>133664996
You watch it for the submarine scenes, not Alec Baldwin's hamfisted acting and the shitty script that shaves off 90% of the novel.

The sub scenes are awesome.

>>133664996
You missing out, like anon said, the submarine scenes are enjoyable.

>>133640425
Cautious allies sure, but going all in with them?
No thanks. They're government's just as fucked up as ours if not worse.

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The ZOGs need Russia as an enemy to justify NATO existance.

All the millenial generals and State department veterans have dedicated their lives to defeating Russia.

Putin is a smart man, he realized the only way to win is to no longer be the enemy, but to be a friend.

This is what the ZOGs fear the most. Russia becoming part of NATO.

>>133640425
Yes. Putin is - at least currently - way more focused on improving russia, on getting deals which are primarily a boost for his country. It would be a bit of a one-sided deal that way. So~ 70%, until you get a "synergy" effect in political agendas.

>>133665601
What I really like is how the lighting gives each sub a personality and you know instantly you're on Dalls for her blue lighting, Red October for her red lighting and green for Konovalov.

Also, Scott Glenn fucking stole the show as Bart Mancuso.

>>133642053
>Fate

Not an argument

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>>133640425
They hacked our democracy anon. I mean I don't know about you but I like my DEMOCRACY unhacked. Why did Putin hack our ELECTORAL system? Is it possible Putin hacked our founding fathers because I can't see why George Washington would allow this to happen. He helped build this country but forgot to put "No hack our democracy RUSSIA" so he must obviously have been hacked by Russia which is the only reason why he didn't secure our Electronic Elections from Putin. George Washington was secretly a kgb puppet. They probably got comprising videos of President Washington. There does that clear it up Anon.
>Literally the Russian narrative converted to rational human speak.

>>133665601
Arr you kidding me? If I'd had that DVD it would be snapped in half, like that other absolutely rubbish film that I have intentionally forgotten the name of. In this film, and it looked fucking amazing, within the first five minutes, after an epic fight, our hero goes to a bar and tells someone that the first discovery of killing a werewolf was to melt down a silver Jewish shekel and craft it into a bullet. And there you have it. Jews melted shekels to craft silver bullets to defeat werewolfs and the world ought to thank them. FUCK OFF. DVD ejected and snapped in half. If only I had a disc of red October to do the same.

>>133640425
They dare question your exceptionalism and stand in your way towards world's domination, which is what US is attempting to do by getting rid of strategically important but disobedient regimes.

Drop "US exceptionalism", stop with color revolutions near Russia's border, stop NATO expansion, stop missile defense shield in Eastern EU, get out of Ukraine and Syria, hang the Nazis in Ukraine together, red pill the world regarding MH17. This will be a good start.

But the problem with US is, one administration will do one thing regarding Russia, then within 4-8 years, another will do the opposite. Unless something changes in US (swamp drained with all the creatures like Soros), it's impossible to have long term strategic relations for Russia with the US.

>>133667952
> like that other absolutely rubbish film that I have intentionally forgotten the name of. In this film, and it looked fucking amazing, within the first five minutes, after an epic fight, our hero goes to a bar and tells someone that the first discovery of killing a werewolf was to melt down a silver Jewish shekel and craft it into a bullet
oh shit i remember seeing something like this too, and I remember i wanted to know the song that played too but could never find it.

>>133669025
It seriously annoyed the living daylights out of me because I had just paid £14.99 for it from Morrison's. It looked fucking a.m.a.z.i.n.g. Ruined within the first five minutes. Same as Red October. I seriously ejected that disc and fucking snapped it in half less than an hour after purchase.

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>>133641704

>>133654505
Perfect