PORN: Are WE to blame?

>>133624920
Nah, porn and masturbation are good for you. They prevent cancer and they feel good, what's not to love?

>>133625089
>What's not to love
That the seed you spill is wasted on your shitty floor than inside a woman?

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nothing wrong in looking at solo chicks doing solo stuff
the real degeneracy is looking at other dudes dicks fucking the chick.

>>133624920
i think the hottest girls aren't in porn, but a lot of my friends disagree. i see hotter girls in public than in porn

Porn is evil.

>>133625276
wasted implies that your body doesn't just immediately begin producing more. Also speed dies every day and you ejaculate it at night during "wet dreams."

Stop having wet dreams it's wrong. Jesus said no wet dreaming.

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>>133625276
>still spilling seed and doesn't practice seminal retention

kys

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>>133625089
>>133625595

Wrong and wew, you're so fucking perceptible to (((their))) lies and sly propaganda.

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>>133625762
Fuck this is so true.

>>133625595
>>133625762
>Not saving it for your future wife
If you masturbate, you are more fucking pathetic than cucks. If you continue protecting masturbation, you're allowing (((them))) to win, because it will keep you away from social interaction with a real woman.

>>133624920
men are too blame for porn. men are the only ones who really feel this sexual urge. and finding that women just arn't worth it, porn is just an easier alternative to subsiding your primal natural desires. it's women who don't want it, so the next best thing is porn.

>>133626292
I'm open to what you say but you need to justify it. You can't just say "Jews want u to fap" when it's a natural behaviour observed in chimps. You sound like an Uber bible faggot.

>>133626689
You do know that OP just showed how jews control porn? Good lord, I can't tell if this is a JIDF shill or b8.

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>>133624920

Porn is Social Engineering,Brainwashing & filled with Subliminal messages.

[A while back, a KB was done on this: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/]

All Fetishes you see promoted have an agenda behind them. Some very obvious, others more complexly sinister.

>>133624920

Anons vid related is a real eye opener into what porn actually is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq5k3xWpkOM&t=90s

>>133624920
I guess a lot of us are. Obviously, especially if you've ever bought porn, but don't forget women look at it too

>>133629494
This.

All this "women are asexual creatures" is BS. Loads of women watch porn and masturbate to it with their dildos and vibrators. It allows them to experience sexual pleasure without the risk of getting involved with a real man.

>>133625285
This

>>133624920
Your mind becomes more and more degenerate every time. You start watching regular porn a few years ago, now you're into anal, choking, incest, and teens. Pretty soon you'll be a good goy and go straight for the cp.

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Answer is both

Men create the demand by quitting society and (((going their own way)))

Women fill the demand because easy shekels and there are no strong men in their lives to offer as a guide on how they ought to live their life

>how do we fix this?
Pic related. Men need to stop consuming porn in the amount that they do and go back the fuck outside

>inb4 no fap
Moderation is key. Some of it is acceptable plus you can learn something from it to use on women

>>133626689
If you compare yourself to a chimp you should be treated as such.

Why are people who follow Abrahamic religions have negative views on porn, while people who follow other religions don't have a problem with it? In my opinion there is nothing wrong with porn, unless it's with plastic women, big titties and nigger cocks. God can send me to hell just because I watch nude women I don't want to fuck.
Why does God hate pornography so much?

>Christianity is the only true religion, other shall be PURGED
If so, why don't you make a big army purging people who aren't Christians?

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>>133633258
>If so, why don't you make a big army purging people who aren't Christians?

Well, this is what /pol/ is for.

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>>133633258
God invented sex and procreation. Porn is none of those things. It's for weak cucks who lack enough confidence and discipline to get a wife and maintain her with sex and procreation.

>>133634405
>God invented sex and procreation
cool story christcuck, go whorship your jew on a stick.

porn is progress, but only the good kind of porn see >>133625285

>>133626110
Wow, that's actually pretty interesting. I used to think NoFap was bullshit because it was backed by pseudo-science (I mean, it still kinda is) but I think I'm gonna give it a chance now.

>>133634405
I didn't ask for this. Why did He put porn I his blacklist?

>>133634602
> say God
> think christcuck

Porn is unneeded degeneracy that fuels narcissism and jealousy creating a weak society of cucked boys. Masturbation is a nothing more than self-harm. Learn about your fucking body before you jack off and deplete yourself.

>>133624920
>Are we men to blame for porn?

You have underestimated the 9D chess manipulation women are capable of;
They have managed to get millions of men to focus their sexual attention on them, sacrificing their life energy to them, while another man feeds them his life energy AND THEY'VE CONVINCED US THAT WE ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THEM BY DOING THIS!

Never underestimate the feminine jew, their powers of manipulation are beyond their own understanding - so they don't consciously know what they are doing, but they are never the less astounding in their ability.

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>>133635169
>muh pseudoscience

nothing wrong in rubbing one out once a day while looking at pretty female bodys.

>>133634702
It's not pseudo-science. Confucius said about masturbating that going a week without it is healthy but going months is more healthy for a true man.

>>133626110
But my GF gets upset if I don't cum during sex.......
What now?

>>133624920
sasha grey was raised catholic. She became an athcuckthiest

>>133635319
The redpill is that (((they))) don't want people to know that masturbation for males leads to depletion since semen carried by men gives them nutrients and chemicals vital to healthy and energetic libido. That is why Athletes refrain from ejaculating before an event, because they can feel a physical difference when they dont jack off.

>>133635874

kikes love to pretend to be catholic

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>>133635883
but thats a lie, a simple google search already states the truth

>In a recent study, they surveyed 2,000 participants of the London Marathon after the race. What they found was that those runners who had been sexually active the night before were on average 5 minutes faster than those who had abstained.

but yea whatever, keep spouting your nofap bullshit

>>133636056
dunno - she seemed pretty christian-raised to me in her ponos, but you could be right

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>>133635733
She doesn't understand what is going on. Man up and don't let your GF tell you what to do. She may even be shit-testing you to see how man enough you are by being disciplined enough to not cum on her but hold it inside you. Ejaculating wont kill you of course but know that when you ejaculate you are giving something vital out of you.

Read this book, it is a gold mine on this subject.

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Men liking to look at pictures of sexy beautiful women is the opposite of degeneracy, you retard. It's pro-straight and empowering to men.

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>>133625762
>>133625276
>not recycling
this is where many people fuck up

>>133628917

ok explain

>>133633258
> In my opinion there is nothing wrong with porn, unless its with big titties

??? heathens everyone

>>133636533
> what is a wife?

Of course its better than thinking your gay but its just like a nigger, thinking only about sex n boobs all day. No wonder this generation hasn't done shit.

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>>133636538
I hate to tell you this anon but that causes hair loss, the testosterone goes straight to the roots on your head and strangles them.

Let me guess you're already receding in your 20s?

Poor little anglos puritans in this thread...

>>133627044
Thanks for the pill my dude

>>133636533
I can't stand Anastasia Martzipanova but I want to know who the grill in the BG is.

>>133636739
I meant the balloons of titties.
>>133636876
Why shouldn't we think about sex? White people shall fuck like rabbits until there are more white people than non white-people in the world.
>>133637326
>black cock
Yuck.

>>133637326
Whoops.
>futa
ULTRA-YUCK

>>133636876
>your gay but its just like a nigger, thinking
>your gay
>calling other people niggers
yeah how about I disregard what you have to say

>>133637387
Sex in marriage which leads eventually to procreation is great and important. Even in the Bible God said to do that. But obsessing over a simple act is stupid and a waste of time. It benefits no one just like watching hours of pointless tv shows benefit no one.

>>133637385
no clue but this photo was taken by Alexander Mavrin

>>133636255
Sexually Active doesn't mean masturbation you Mong

>>133637945
doesn't matter, as you cum either way.

>>133636255
No, what you are being told by all these hired so called (((scientists))) is nothing more than lies supporting the creation of a degenerate sex crazed society. You're believing the pseudo-science.

>It is absolutely right that there are ancient precedents for the idea that abstaining from sex could help athletic performance. Aelian, Varia Historia 3.30, tells us that the athlete Cleitomachus was so abstinent that he never slept with his wife, and that he would turn away if he saw dogs mating in the street. That anecdote picks up on the standard idea of athletes as models of virtue and self-control.


Source
https://ancientandmodernolympics.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/sexual-abstinence-in-ancient-athletic-training/

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>>133638466
yea sure its all a conspiracy so men rub one out.

holy fuck what a lunatic you are.

also even if that shit was true, why would the average non marathon guy care about this?

also keep your shill links to yourself.

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>>133625276
Overpopulation is real. What all of us need to do is dispense much more death. And quick. At least people who jerk it all day are helping the population slow a bit. What they should do is kill themselves. That would be very helpful.

>>133636533
There's a difference between fapping to nude women doing a solo show and fapping to a white girl getting fucked by a black

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>>133638922
>yea sure its all a conspiracy...

Why the fuck are you on /Pol/ again?
You are arguing for the kikes, literally doing their own work for them.

Masturbation is self-harm. Sex is not.

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>>133639431
cool proof, not fake shit at all.

you nofap retards are all retarded shills arguing against natural urges, thats the problem.

>>133639757
>nofap
Pretty stupid really. If you're not having sex it's okay to get a release every once and awhile. Everything in moderation though.
>noporn
This is what people need to actually start doing. Pron is where the negative side effects come from, not masturbating.

>>133640267
>This is what people need to actually start doing.
see >>133625285

>>133640465

autogynephilia

>>133640741
maybe for you deranged tanssexual retard.
get help

>>133625089
lmao plebbitches are so easy to spot. you have to go back though

40 days without fapping, its always a good time to free yourselv of the wankjew and stop being a literal cuck watching others have sex, /pol/

>>133639757
plebit fagots need to go back right fucking now,. dont think people dont know who you are lmao

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>>133641684
I don't even have a plebbit account and literally never use that site you nofap shill faggot.

>>133640465
No, both give you an unrealistic view of women and sex. Unless you're fucking models watching solo girls way out of your league is going to do harm in the long run.

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>>133626110
So NoFap might help my eczema, huh? Might give it a try then. Still can't make me get a job though.

Seriously just look at hentai.
It's technically not porn (as no 3dpd is ever depicted, it's literally just pixels in the screen arranged in a pleasing manner) and gives all the benefits of porn (hot girls doing hot stuff).

>>133641895
when you get to my level, those thigns you post do nothing. im above that, i now get a desire to mate and love when present with a woman, instead of a screen. enjoy being a fapfagot

>>133639205
no,overpopulation is not real.Humanity is just all jammed in at the cities so it looks overpopulated.

>>133642412
Hentai is even worse for you than regular porn weeb

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>>133642730

>>133624920
Kikes are responsable, also to this day 30-40% of females watch porn

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>>133624920
pic related, recommend you read first
I've been doing nofap for 2 years now, started because I was depressed and trouble with endurance sports
happy enough with results that I intend to give up sex and masturbation indefinitely
>it's natural/ok from time to time/ect...
masturbating won't harm you unless you do so to the extent of becoming dependent on the dopamine release it creates
>cancer
found by harvard in prostate cancer study
found the sexually active men had a 20% reduced chance of prostate cancer
they observed that things like obesity, smoking, drinking and drug use also reduce sexual activity, hence the increased risk of cancer observed in people that seldom masturbated
>concerns over hair, anger, hornyness form testosterone increase
testosterone peaks around 10 days in depending on the person and then decreases until your brain cannot develop any more androgen receptors
by that point you'll find yourself to be calm and almost impervious to arousal

>>133642334
>Unless you're fucking models
Escorts are legal here my dude so yes I actually do.

>>133642500
thats like your opinion man, go and do that but don't annoy other people with what you think they're supposed to do with their dicks.

>>133643795
you are sad

>>133643795
>G*rman
>shilling for porn degeneracy

No surprise here. Good goy.

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very interesting read, the cause of the rising cucks and beta males in todays society

>>133646056
>>133644925
>>133644594
nofap tards out in full force today huh?

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>>133646380
>full no tuggie tard force today
I'd like to hear why you think abstention is bad
please make me think with examples and the outline of a theory

>>133646380
Oh ye
It's probably getting worse as dumbasses would paint the blame on something quickly than actually think about stuff.

>>133624920
I don't watch porn anymore now that I'm in a relationship again. No problem with it, just that I get my needs out either with my girlfriend, or rarely just by getting a wank and using my imagination.

I've found that just using my imagination is far more satisfying than opening tabs, trying to locate a particular video, etc, when I can just fucking think about it.

It's like the people who lose their sense of direction because they're so reliant on their smartphone. Drop the tech and the mind clears.

>>133646695
There's literally no reason not to, unless you're in a relationship, married, or a normie. All the "benefits" to no fap is really only good for normies, robots don't gain anything from not looking at porn other then increased frustration.

>>133646380
>>133646056
my dear hans im just posting what i think about the subject of porn, why u haff to be mad

TLDR: Watching porn ->ure making women, more and more, have these (natural) standards of pleasure to rule over you [when ure watching porn ure literally valurazing that natural thing] -> U start to depend ur self-worth on women. -> start to feel insecure when ure talking to a hot girl. or feel like ure a "loser" because u dont get laid X times.

I remember being like twenty and finding a video of a guy fucking a shemale while a woman sucked her cock. Probably fapped to it a dozen times. Porn was and still is one of their most effective weapons in controlling us.

>>133638060
THIS. How is ejaculation from sex supposed to be physiologically different from ejaculation from masturbation?

>>133624920
Porn is interesting because nothing quite like it has ever existed. It's degenerate fly paper... a gateway to further degenerate behavior. You probably wouldn't habitually jack it to other people fucking in front of you... you'd feel like a freak.

I would say that hedonism is bad. Digital hedonism is especially bad imo because it has no connection to life at all. An utter waste of time and self esteem.

>>133647777
checked and check my first post for info
what I'll add to it is that the dopamine release from ejaculation reinforces the vicious cycle robots are in of numbing themselves with a dopamine intensive activity, like junk food, masturbation, entertainment drugs ect
it's like quitting an opiate or a junk food addiction to stop fapping
you'd also be pleasantly surprised by how much more confident and motivated you feel after a (long) while of abstention
it's the same feeling you have when immersed in an action scene or vidya' you need the escapism of media a lot less

>>133648154
Your mind knows, your body is in conjunction with your mind, your body knows. There are studies showing this yet it is persistently brought up and I don't understand why because it is so intellectually lazy.

ergo sum: jacking it to porn =/= jacking it =/= not jacking it

>>133647929
All my life i've watched porn. Im 19 now, stopped watching for a year now (have got a gf so im not "hardcore no ejaculation mode")
But throught Highschool i felt insecure around girls, or would feel like shit because my mates were getting sex and i hasnt. I noticed that this is because of watching porn(and pretty much society influence, its everywhere) i valorized this standards, i put "women on a pedestal" like those PUA faggots speak off.
When i quit porn i noticed i didn't care much about it, even tho i was a virgin, i didn't give a fuck talking to the hottest girls, or would never feel insecure because of a girl. and funny enough i got a gf way out of my league.
Because all women want, is confidence.

>>133648647
Actually they want your soul too but I wouldn't want to spoil the surprise.

>>133648851
well consider how much shitty relationships, would end if men didn't let themselves be manipulated with sex, and would end the relationship right there.
instead of putting up with it and taking the disfunctional relationship further and then she steals all your shit, your dog, your house, your kids.

>>133649093
You are wise for your years. Keep your head on your shoulders.

>>133648639
Yeah, psychologically speaking they're different. But as far as things like testosterone levels go, I can't see how they'd differ

>>133649093
i see this with some friends of mine, which i believe is also due to the fact of porn. she cheated a lot of times and is obviously a manipulating, devious, and making his life measurable but he puts up with it like a "beta" because she manipulates him with sex, and self-esteem like shes a god that he needs validation from "but shes so wonderfull" "everyone makes mistakess"

>>133649256
thanks kind anon

>>133642852
If you aren't interested in ever having a partner then yes by all means stick to hentai and whatever porn you like but be clear that you are writing yourself off in the long run if you don't have your shit together already.

For many people porn (Inc hentai etc) is addictive and damaging to an extent. For young men on here (and underage fags) I'd advise staying off porn until you've fucked plenty of girls and are confident sexually as porn curbs motivation to pursue.

>>133646380
Fuck off kike enabler. You've been presented with evidence that (((they))) control the porn industry and yet you still partake in it. What a fucking cuck.

>>133651430
It's not as if people can fap to porn for free while having sex with women could cost just for a date and then you pay for 18 years if they happen to get pregnant. Oh, wait...

>>133648452
Stupid normie.
I don't expect you to understand, but you can kindly fuck off with your idea that just because you and your normie friends benefit from not looking at porn, that literally everyone else on the planet does too. Robots are robots for a reason, it has jack shit to do with confidence or dopamine.

>>133649732
Hentai is not the same thing as 3dpd shit. Lumping hentai in with disgusting roastys is like like lumping in apples with oranges.

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>>133651810
Lmao, stfu faggot. Why look at porn and masturbate on yourself in your room unless you're a weak beta numale?

>>133651564
If you want to please yourself so badly then go ahead and masturbate. Just don't watch porn while you're doing so. Visiting sites such as Pornhub gives (((them))) ad revenue and defiles your mind. You'd be doing exactly what (((they))) want. Don't be a good goy is pretty much all I'm saying.

>>133636255
>>133635883

You can jack off, aslong as it isn't every night, everyday. Just as you can drink alcohol just not every night and everyday. Strive for balance, my dudes.

>>133625089
Jewish shill detected

>>133651810
the fact that you react so negatively to a different opinion about it should raise you questions on your dependence to it

>>133635319
>Biology
>Pseudoscience

Kek

>Muslim education

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>>133635516
stop right there

anyone who uses the word pseudo science will imminently stop listening when you mention anything other then facts from wikipedia and webmd™

>>133652200
Maybe because I enjoy it and not some retard that treats it like the bubonic plague. Do you personally get benefits from looking at porn? Probably. You're not everyone else though.
>>133652901
Or maybe I'm sick of stupid normies pushing their retarded memes on everyone else.

>>133641895
can someone put a pepe face on her?

>>133653299
well sorry if this "normie" here has upset you. I personaly benefited a lot from it, back in 2015 when someone told me in pol this stuff>>133647929
i rarely see any posts like this here, but again i dont come here much.

>>133654783
i dont get it how u see that the dopamine "retarded meme" of porn is all normie bullshit

>>133633903
fuck off christcuck

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>>133655181
pic related is what will happen to you once we have a Christian country again

>>133656171
kike on a stick says no

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>>133624920
You must understand my friend. Hitler was right when he said the people can not lead themselves. Nazism was never about cirkle jerking white men. It was about admitting the white men too are pathetic.

Western white males approved of the collapse of the western nations. Thus, not even they are fit to rule. Only a small merited minority, only der partei, the enlightened sons of Ultima Thule, can rule Europa.

>>133625089
Hello rabbi.

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>>133656756
Also, the esoteric nationalist socialists should strive to make themselves irrelevant by breeding a new master race of man so competent he can rule himself without authoritarianism which will be necessary until this race is bred well enough to revolt.

This is what Hitler actually believed. Never did he imply the western male was so holy that he could govern himself without succumbing to degeneracy.

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>>133653299
you're obviously only hostile towards my person, than the idea
has it ever occurred to you that some people when faced with isolation, lack of hope and chronic addictions tried to find ways to escape their pain that didn't (only) involve shitposting on r9k and consuming media
the normie is a breeder and glorifies any and all sexual activity
the normie doesn't advocate for self-improvement because they don't need to given how comfortable their lives are
if you truly believe working on yourself is for morally bankrupt normals then unironically kys; if you don't want to improve your condition, end it

>>133656461
>Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
>1 Corinthians 6:9

>>133624920
>not fapping to lewd pictures of girls you know that are posted on facebook/instagram

you're doing it wrong

>>133657418
dead kike on a stick

>>133624920
Not all men are Jews so no.

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>>133657066
hortler and the gang got a little ahead of themselves by putting their faith in their ability to create an optimized man purely through selective breeding and genetic modding
>we are searching for the aryan gods
it's about better yourself and your people by reaching for perfection rather than concretely believing you can reach it

>>133657904
If you spend too much time analysing Hitlers autistic lunch rants he was fairly honest with the fact that a superior man through selective breeding would take hundreds of years and that medical advances were much needed.

The aryan rhetoric was partly a populist move though since aryanism and a pre-semitic philosophy revival was all the rave at the time. It's true the party did see the aryans as superior and that trying to breed out the two other polluting gene clusters (we know now germans are only about 40% aryan thanks to recent genetic studies) was desirable, but at its core it seems the party didn't think much of any type of humans, which explains the massive breeding projects. Hitler made loads of edgy tumblr tier quotes about how the avg. person is retarded. And also this correlates with the trendy aryan inspired Nietzsche and his idea of the übermensch, interpreted as a spiritually superior being.

>>133658667
>we know now germans are only about 40% aryan thanks to recent genetic studies
what are you defining as "aryan"?

>>133625285
BASED
When you have a sex with a woman you're supposed to "play" her.

>>133653299
Just because you enjoy it in the moment doesn't make it good. Thats the heathens philosophy of life which the kikes like to promote. Besides abstinence leads to a greater effect of happiness. I live it and know it to be true. Stop fapping and the quality of your life will in time get better, that is just a fact.

>>133659825
All modern native euro populations (except for sardinians and sicilianas which are untouched by aryans) stem from a varied mixture of three groups that settled here.

The latest is the indo-aryans, which brought the indo-european language, indo-european pantheon of gods (which have corrupted over time into norse pagan, greek pagan and so forth), a strongly patriarchal society, and often a warrior caste. The last group was from excavations believed to be very norse looking. From recent genetic studies we know they were not as white as we thought, but since some of them were blonde, eastern peoples depicted them symbolically as extremely blonde and blue eyed. This depiction of aryans is still present in for instance Indian art where the 'first men' are all blonde and blue eyed. They basically worship the invaders that made their caste system and fucked over the dravid (negroid mixed) lower classes.