Conservatism, and particularly /pol/ has been refuted since at

Cringe incarnate.

>>133620823
Jesus Christ... that sanctimonious fuck

There isn't a single viable argument yet somehow he tries to be "superior".

>>133620823
None of this refutes any of pols arguments

>>133620823
tldr

its been debunked

XKCD hasn't ever been funny

>>133620823
how will we ever recover?

Post the one that equates perseverance in the workplace with just buying more and more lottery tickets, that one really gets my rage meter going

>>133620823
its almost like he's decrying abortion used as a method of population control, but that would be too conservative so that can't be what he means


seriously though randall munroe is top of the line pseudo-intellectual

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>>133620823
POL BTFO

>>133621188
>>133621196
"More harm has been done by people panicked over societal decline than societal decline ever did". You're telling me that doesn't refute several /pol/ arguments?

>>133621223
Go on?

>>133621302
I'm currently reading and I'm tempted to agree. It doesn't even seem to get interesting until about the #500 mark.

>>133621711
*rereading

>>133621488
Randall's a STEM nerd, it's understandable that he'd be anti-Trump.

>>133621711
>You're telling me that doesn't refute several /pol/ arguments?
isn't that what /pol/ believes? that elite globalists are manipulating the masses for their own benefit?

which then makes you think that if munroe BELIEVES what his character is espousing in this comic, he'd really like trump, because trumps support comes from honest, self-interested masses who could clearly neer do as much harm as their controllers on top

munroe is garbage

>>133620823
Yep. Remember how your parents complained about your generation being shit? Remember how your grandparents complained about your parents' generation being shit? Remember how everyone ALWAYS complains about the next generation?
That's because people get used to a certain way of life, only to notice that the world is moving on, making further progress.
But if the Natsocs had their way, we would still be stuck in the last century intelectually, spiritually and scientifically.

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>>133621362
This one?

>>133621711
>"More harm has been done by people panicked over societal decline than societal decline ever did". You're telling me that doesn't refute several /pol/ arguments?

No because it's not a refutation; much like saying "stupid people reproduce more because they don't want to sleep with you" isn't a refutation.

>>133620823
No wonder he doesn't even pretend to pose any sort of debate, his mindset is so singular he wouldn't even recognize the problems of societal decline as such, he would see them as "consequences of liberaton"

the AIDS epidemic is a good example, I would say that that is because people became too comfortable with anonymous gay sex and drug use, but munroe would say it's all good because now we are more accepting of homosexuals or some mamby pamby crap

>>133620823
more people have been killed by what now?

Whites are, on average, more intelligent than blacks and spics.
In my country, whites won't be around for many more generations, but spics and niggers are on the rise, thus lowering the average IQ of our society over time.

>>133621711
>"More harm has been done by people panicked over societal decline than societal decline ever did".
never seen communism described this way, don't understand what communism has to do with conservatism

>>133620823
If the middle class is still having kids why is the the fertility rate below 2.0 in all white countries???

>>133620823
WWW.SMUGSTICKS.COM

FUCKING GREAT COMIC BROS
I BASE EVERY SINGLE OPINION I HAVE ONI T

>>133620823
I used to like this guy.

Then I realized that he needed to justify certain ideological virtues over the science.

It's impressive that so many people claim to believe in scientific empiricism until it comes time to shoe the differences within humanity or accept that we are just another type of animal, greatly affected by our genetic programming and environment. Or the concept that we could potentially control our own evolution or breed for given traits, despite thousands of years of agriculture, animal domestication, and more recent scientific leaps showing just that.

i want to bully randall so bad.

>>133620823
i think this was supposed to be a funny caricature of leftist mentality
>YOU THINK PRESERVING YOUR CULTURE MEANS SOMETHING HAHA IDIOT WHEN HAS A CIVILIZATION EVER FAILED LIKE NEVER

>>133622298
>hitlers germany didnt make incredible scientific advancements

>>133622298
HAHAAAHA, we'd be much further along intellectually and scientifically. And we would still have spirituality, instead of this degeneracy culture.

>>133624181
because of war

>>133622298
>close families and communities
>enormous scientific investments
>eugenically engineered geniuses
>fit, healthy, humans
>NO FUCKING NIGGERS OR KIKES

WHAT A NIGHTMARE

>>133624559
youre right.
the lack of war is holding us back
we are stagnating in comfortable purposeless misery

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>>133620823
you can tell the author is buttblasted

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>>133624698
You have an idolized view of Nazi rule

>pic related, brothel under the Nazis
>>133624774
Go join the army then, have fun

>xkcd
epic, simply epic
upvoted

>>133622298
generation z is pretty fucking sweet m80.

>>133621711
We have data showing people getting dumber because niggers bread like rats.
Where's the evidence that someone with their panties in a twist over morality and society has harmed societ?

>>133624886
>brothel under the Nazis
you lying degenerate subhuman
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1175836/Sleeping-enemy-How-horizontal-collaborators-Paris-brothels-enjoyed-golden-age-entertaining-Hitlers-troops.html

>>133624886
>Go join the army then, have fun
if i could actually blast sandniggers and hear the lamentations of their women before taking them as my wife i sure would join the army
the current year version where im surrounded by faggots women and minorities while we fill out paperwork and my only battle wound is the chafing from the sand on my scrotum. nah

>>133625143
Paris under Nazi rule you dummy. Read the article you just linked

>'It was a golden age for French brothels,' says Buisson. 'Many had been threatened with being shut down in less liberated days, but under the Nazis they were completely revived.'

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LOL

>>133625143
>>133625310
>Wermacht and SS units commandeered no fewer than 22 well known brothels, turning them into establishments for the exclusive use of military staff and a few compliant French officials.

Moron, leave this thread in shame

>>133625310
why wouldnt soldiers fuck foreign women?
i do not understand your mentally ill brain so im gonna stop conversing with you

as far as women go this is what they truly desire. we must go to war for the sake of everyone
>Most girls were so enamoured with the Aryan invaders that they went to great lengths to make them feel at home, including learning German, putting on performances of their favourite classical music, even dyeing their hair black to provide an exotic contrast to their predominantly blond customers.

>>133623796
And here I thought you were linking to an actual parody comic. Thanks for getting my hopes up for nothing.

>>133625521
>why wouldnt soldiers fuck foreign women?

You said I was lying when I said it was under the Nazis. Admit your mistake please

>>133625541
this could work......

>>133620823
>I'm so dumb, I need Tumblr cartoon to make my arguments for me.
Not even reading it, Mohammad. Try to form your own argument with real facts instead of cartoons.

>>133625620
my mistake was the belief that you were suggesting it was german women doing this which i do not believe
i dont see how soldiers fucking foreign women is degeneracy

>>133621776
Guess he aint too bright for being in STEM if he thought Hillary wouldve been better.

Cuck-faggots make cartoons for cuck-faggots. Nazi larpers make cartoons for nazi larpers. It is just a business.

>>133620823

>/pol/ is conservatism

oh you sweet summer child

>>133625750
How about fucking people in concentration camps

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_camp_brothels_in_World_War_II

>>133621711
>refute arguments
Citation needed.
>panic of scial decline causes more harm than social decline
Citation needed.

>>133621776
>STEM nerd = anti-Trump
My 3 best friends are engineers.
Three of my uncles are engineers.
I'm fb friends with several others, mostly old high school classmates.
Currently enrolled in engineering classes.
I don't think that's an inherent trait among STEM majors, given my experience. Though there are some, they tend to be far from the top of the class.

Randall has always been garbage in every comic not about math or hard sciences.

What's that effect everyone misuses? Dunning-Kruger?

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>>133620823

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Really grabs the goose, doesn't it?

>>133620823
>smug, condescending attitude
Check

>interrupting before a proper argument can be made
Check

>false accusations of being intolerant
Check

>buttblasted ad-hominens in place of an actual proper rebuttal
Check

>lame, childish and predictable swipes at supposed virginity/small dicks/bodily functions
Check

>having to leave mid-argument due to being so triggered and assblasted
Check


Wow, almost a decade later and the Left is STILL using the same failed, immature tactics that they were using back then. Its almost like they enjoy losing- keep up the good work!

>>133622298
It boggles my mind how people it never occurs to people like this that things actually have been getting worse.

>Sliding steadily down the slippery slope
>WE'RE SLIDING! LOOK FAR WE ARE FROM WHERE WE WERE WHEN I WAS YOUNG!
>Shut up Gramps, that what your grandfather said about you, clearly we're not actually sliding and old people are just nuts.

>>133624021
>>133623263
This desu. I fucking hate how the left is so fucking self-satisfied and sanctimonious when it's obvious the world is collapsing around them. the
>but people have always complained about the next generation!
meme is so pathetic and wrong. For a start, why shouldn't we have a society in which each generation strives for higher and higher values, and outdoes their parents in virtue and achievement? Secondly, this is only true of generations since WW1 - since the start of the actual decline of Western civilization. Before that, there was a general belief in progress and that each generation was better than the last.
If people have been sensing nothing but a moral a decline for the last few generations, then perhaps it's time to ask if we are actually living in a time of moral decline (and where it is leading) - rather than just declaring it a law of nature and deciding to not question it?

>>133622298
A lot of our technology today came from Nazi Germany, you retard.

>>133620823
>Panel 5
>If your society ceases to exist, your society wins

>>133621488
Never before had I seen an artist get blown the fuck out so fast. This is why artists usually stay out of politics.

>>133620823
Ignore arguments, the comic

>>133621711
Did you know what an argument is? That's not an argument. It's a thesis in need of an argument. There's not a shred of evidence of reasoning presented to back up what he said. All he did was call his opposition mouthpiece a reactionary and insult him.

>>133620823

I don't see any actual refutation of evidence of declining genotypic IQ. Merely someone flatly denying that it's happening and then being snarky and insulting.

Maybe if we weren't experiencing such a decline in IQ, he'd know what an actual argument was.

His arguments are "it's not the case that IQ is trending downward, it's not the case that upperclass people have fewer children than lowerclass people, it's not the case that average education attainment is getting lower".

If you look at IQ in Western countries, especially those with high immigration, it has started trending downward. Also, in the US, wealthy people have fewer kids than the poor.

"educational attainment" != education. Studying art doesnt magically make you educated.

>>133626425
This was a very good post. Just thought I would let you know I noticed.

>>133623727
>fertility rate
That phrase is the globalists jargon.
To imply that it's not a purely social aspect that is the root cause.
If anything, Westerners should be able to manage many more children than the poorest nations of the world.
Access to clean water, the best health care, vaccinations, public schools, being raised to be better people and access to the best nutrion/diet, should enable you to better support 5 children than some 65 IQ beast in Cameroon/Congo/Nigeria could support 1.
But most of us have been convinced not to do so.
And only the dregs of our society and a handful of religious fundamentalists continue to have large families.
Despite our social welfare systems, industry and economic systems being dependent on each generation being larger than the one before it. At least until automation takes most jobs and ideally we convert to an entirely STEM society, where we do not allow those of inferior genetic/intellectual/societal worth to reproduce.

>>133620823
>>133621711
>>133621776
>>133623015

b8 shill thread

>>133626425
So things have been steadily getting worse every generation since the ancient greeks and romans?

Because you can find texts where old people lament about the young generation from all the way back then.
Meanwhile standards of living have been going up, technology has been advancing, diseases and hunger slowly being conquered.

Maybd old people just love to complain, and some things getting worse in recent times (inflation, stagnant wages) are just a coincidence and unrelated.

>>133624559
And you think that progress would have ground to a halt if they had achieved their military objectives and attained a peace going forward?

>>133627413
The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise

"Our young men have grown slothful. There is not a single honorable occupation for which they will toil night and day. They sing and dance and grow effeminate and curl their hair and learn womanish tricks of speech; they are as languid as women and deck themselves out with unbecoming ornaments. Without strength, without energy, they add nothing during life to the gifts with which they were born — then they complain of their lot"


Guess who

>>133620823
>muh dick: the comic
Doesn't matter how you dress it up, it's still a nigger tier argument.

>>133621488
What a monumental faggot

>why oh why can't a pathogocial lying neoliberal who cut her chops defending pedophile rapists in court be the president instead of that guy who speaks incorrectly?

>>133627584
Yeah probably. Nazi Germany was unsustainable without war, the economic recovery was fuelled by mass militarisation in the first place

>>133627413
No, not since the Greeks and Romans. Things had been getting better since the Renaissance, and accelerated to an extreme pace during the 19th century. Morally - if not YET materially - we have undeniably been on a decline since the WWI.
If you immerse yourself in the culture of the 19th century, it was incredibly different to today - almost like some kind of utopian science fiction. Obviously, people weren't as rich on a crude material scale. But the freedom, the belief in progress and self-reliance, the degree of spiritual security and health, is almost inconceivable to the modern mind. Then, if you didn't struggle to make yourself the best you could possibly be, you were considered a pussy. Nowadays it's hard to find a thinking person who ISN'T a nihilist. Think about that.

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>>133623015
except there is actually a point where buying a lottery ticket is beneficial ie. the average return is over 1:1

>>133627413
From Greeks and Romans people went to the Dark Ages (and even withing the Middle Ages there were ups and downs). Greeks and Romans themselves were pre-dated by several civilizations that ceased to exist under unknown circumstances.

>>133620823
Literally all that non-hat guy said was
>Idiocracy is so true

the whole rant was over nothing

>>133627994
>No, not since the Greeks and Romans. Things had been getting better since the Renaissance, and accelerated to an extreme pace during the 19th century.

Explain what you mean please. Prostitution, transgender people, everything that people here point to as degenerate have always existed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_house

>>133628112
Hat's on the wrong stick figure.
Otherwise spot on.

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>>133627994
>>133628293

>>133626305
This one is correct though
Alcohol is gross

>>133628293
'It existed' =/= 'socially normal and acceptable'

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>>133623431
>spics and niggers are on the rise
that explains everything

>>133621711
Tell that to the romans lol

>>133627994
> Morally - if not YET materially - we have undeniably been on a decline since the WWI.
That's a weird way to look at it. Right after WWII we had pretty much a revolution in agriculture and, wave of industrialization in the US and Europe, and these times pretty much set the modern living stanards (you know, like washing your ass every day and things like that). I doubt you'd want to live in pre-1950s or god forbid pre-WWI times.

>>133622298
>spiritually
>Calling yourself ancap

Well that is one recreational McNuke(tm) for you

>>133621776
>STEM Nerd

I'm currently enrolled at a STEM university majoring in mechanical engineering and I voted for Trump and so did many people here too

>>133628488
Oh cmon, even you Brits have 1 or 2 good ales.

>>133620823
Not an argument. The closest he comes is your vaunted panel 5. The problem is it's not only factually untrue, but also vague past the point of any meaning.

>>133621939
Yas

>>133623015
Change is literally deterimed by how many iterations the treatments of P are determined over. I agree that it is stupid to keep doing the lottery, but the argument the guy is making is mathematically correct.

>>133628560
>socially normal and acceptable

It varies through history

>
In addition to being a poet, Sappho was the head of what was known as a thiasos. Thiasoi were communities of women in which Greek women could receive a limited form of education. Critically, however, girls in these communities also experienced same-sex love, sometimes for their mistresses (Sappho writes of her love for various students of hers) and sometimes for each other.

Also are people here really advocating for a return to say Victorian era values? Crazy

>>133627634
seneca right before rome turned into a fascist fucken empire and conquered everything
faggy boys with no cause given purpose and women put back in their place

>>133626691
>calling a guy who draws boring stick figure comics an "artist"

>>133620823
Doesn't the fifth panel refute progressive politics? It's the Left that is saving Humanity and planet from its present state of barbarism by throwing down society's underpinnings. It's impossible to decline from 63M+ Americans being actually Hitler so his wording is a bit shit but applicable.

>>133628488
I disagree.
Beer is delicious, if you don't have the palate of a child.

I bet you think asparagus and brussel sprouts are disgusting too, right?

>>133626691
This.
I used to like the guy, but over time I noticed he began to introduce more and more liberal bullshit into his work. His open support for Clinton was the last straw and drove me away. As I understand it, he lost A TON of traffic after that.

>>133628767
Yes, the momentum of the industrial revolution has not yet stopped. But if you look at
>declining rates of economic growth
>Cancerous spread of the welfare state
>More and more govt. controls
Eventually collectivization, which results from the disintegrating moral and spiritual nature of our times, will outstrip technological advancement and we'll be facing a 'Fall of Rome' scenario. In my country last year we had 0% growth. In a few years, that'll be negative, and a generation after that, we'll be back to living in mud huts. 40 years ago, we were the 2nd fastest growing economy in the world. Now, we have regular power blackouts. Proportionally speaking, SA is the largest welfare state in the world, with 17 million dependents and 3 million taxpaying supporters. When the rest of the West reaches that state, you'll start seeing economic decline as well.

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>>133628112
WE'RE SELF AWARENESS LEVELS THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE POSSIBLE

>>133625093
>Where's the evidence that someone with their panties in a twist over morality and society has harmed societ?
Pretty much everything that came out of World War II, particularly communism. The same could also be said of many religions.

>>133629481
>Now, we have regular power blackouts. Proportionally speaking, SA is the largest welfare state in the world, with 17 million dependents and 3 million taxpaying supporters. When the rest of the West reaches that state

South Africa has its own unique problems that caused it to be in the state its in, you can't compare it with the west

>>133627413
>getting worse since ancient times

No one with a functioning brain is making that argument.
Citing that technological progress is still occurring despite the impending catastrophe caused by 3rd world population explosion and weakening social/moral/educational standards in the West does not refute that we are coming to an impass.

The population of Africa has multiplied 5x over in the last 50 years.
The UN projects it to multiply a further 5-6x over in the next 50 years.
>the west funds this population growth through foreign aid, medical, food and charity
>the education in many of these countries are actually sliding
>the average life span decreased by 12 years in so that Africa under Mandela (a literal terrorist organizer ala Bin Laden)
>Agricultural production has declined drastically
>the only things keeping a semblance of peace and order are the US and UN peace keeping efforts or they'd genocide the fuck out of eachother in a few short years and Islam would quickly take over the remainder
>average IQ on countries that bring in brown people is noticeably decreasing
>as the amount of gibs increase, the brown people only seem to degrade faster socially

>>133629481
>40 years ago, we were the 2nd fastest growing economy in the world. Now, we have regular power blackouts.

40 years ago you had apartheid.

Now you have niggers

>>133627413
>So things have been steadily getting worse every generation since the ancient greeks and romans?
Do you think the ancient Greek and Roman would approve or disapprove of our modern morals?

Stop confusing advancing technology with a healthy society.

>>133629481
are u guys ever gona do a violent uprising there? id join.
would anyone actually bother stopping it?

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>>133629481
Goodnight sweet south africa

>>133630024
>>133629724
And the West won't have 'niggers' in 40-50 years? If you don't import them from the 3rd world, you'll create them by subsidizing whites to be unproductive.

>>133629902
>The UN projects it to multiply a further 5-6x over in the next 50 years.

Yes it will grow to a certain point due to advancements in medicine and agriculture but it will stabilise. The west has already gone through the same thing

>Walter Greiling projected in the 1950s that world population would reach a peak of about nine billion, in the 21st century, and then stop growing after a readjustment of the Third World and a sanitation of the tropics.[7] Recent extrapolations from available figures for population growth show that the population of Earth will stop increasing around 2070.[8]

>>133629316
Yes.

>>133624774
THIS

>reclining chairs
>mass production of sunglasses
>gps systems
>aluminum vehicle chassis
>television
>radio

All of the above are mass produced and readily available to us because of war.
The next time a libfag comes at you with disingenuous anti-war bullshit, gently remind them that the only reason they have a GPS system embedded in their glare-free handheld electronic transmitter is because the US military decided that the population should have a crack at technology that allowed for the military to accurately bomb any location on earth!!!

>>133630209
the Scandinavian countries tried really hard to make niggers but couldnt

>>133629481
I guess no one will dispute that the economy is in decline and as a result - culture as well.

>>133630390
How the fuck was television invented as a result of war?

>>133621711
>"More harm has been done by people panicked over societal decline than societal decline ever did"

Except that's absolutely wrong. The collapse of Rome for example, outweighs all harm caused by 'panic' for all of history, and that's just a single example of societal decay out of dozens.

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LOOK

The argument that encompasses the feeling of the first stick man is that certain virtues that made progress possible have been fading away in both the US and Western Europe.

Virtues like

>Self determination (as in the Ubermensch as described by Nietszche)
> Generation X and Y almost blindly following group think and popular culture
>Thinking for yourself (renaissance, scientific method, modernism) vs Neotheologists (post-modernist, socialist, communism, "blaming the externalities") that instead of following the church, follow Social democratism and identity politics almost blindly and oust anyone with a single different opinion (extreme forms are Anti-Fa)
>Being respectfull of (life) experience ("haha, those old people are so dumb" says the 18 year old).

But the greatest argument for the slow existance of an idiocracy is the fact that in the last 40 years bullying and socially excluding great young minds in school (nerds, losers, etc) has steadily increased. Also, mediocre achievements are more praised (high insecurity witht these people), while in almost all periods of serious progress (Greece, roman empire, renaissance, etc) highly intellectual people where regared as respected individuals that led the way for society. But since the romantic period it has been hijacked by idealists and dreamers that use sophism to get them a higher social position than deserved (nowadays, rappers and pop artists fill this role, but Kayne West and Kaitlin Jenner are dummer than my shoe sole).

Idiocracy is real, because striving to higher (intellectual) standards has decreased and hedonism and decadence have taken its place.

>>133630390
>>133630530
Or radio? Or chairs? Unless I just fell for bait

>>133629724
Check the actual employment rates throughout Africa, and in fact, outside of Westernized nations.
It's abysmal.

>>133630629
They were mass produced and popularized by war.

>>133629343
This. Beer is fantastic. Here in the UK we have more micro breweries per capita than anywhere in the world. Feels good man.

>>133627413

> Look at this, ancient people complained about their society declining. That means ALL COMPLAINTS ABOUT SOCIETY DECLINING ARE INVALID

I hate this because it's exactly the sort of pseudo-intellectual snark that passes for cleverness on the left

Here are some other options

1. The greeks back then DID accurately perceive a decline, which they later recovered from
2. The greeks inaccurately perceived a decline, but that is unrelated to the reality of decline today
3. Old people tend to complain about the young, but this is a separate phenomenon from decline

I mean, think about what you're saying here, for one damn moment, instead of parroting arguments you've seen elsewhere that people praised as clever. You're saying that because some complaints old people had about young people in ancient times bear a passing resemblance to complaints in the modern era, we shouldn't concern ourselves with evidence about the decline of IQ. Does that make any fucking sense? Is the temporary satisfaction you get from thinking yourself "witty" really worth casting aside all concern for the future?

>>133630613
>within

>>133630711
>World War II slowed the development of television, as companies like RCA turned their attention to military production

https://www.nyu.edu/classes/stephens/History%20of%20Television%20page.htm

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>>133630720
I'm glad that's gonna change soon, starting with London.

>>133630209
>If you don't import them from the 3rd world
That would still be an invasion of functionally retarded foreigners that create the collapse scenario though. Corrupt bureaucrats and a docile population may permit it to happen, but the actual collapse would still be caused by the imported niggers.

>you'll create them by subsidizing whites to be unproductive.
The average sub-saharan african IQ is something like 70. No amount of subsidizing unproductive behavior in whites could hemorrhage the white european IQ to the point that it becomes that pitifully low.

For example, as a thought experiment, if you just liquidated all low IQ races and you were left with nothing on the earth but east asians and white europeans then I don't see how it would be possible to collapse a modern, western civilization. Decadence, etc, could cause it to go through cycles of dipping down, rising back up, and so on, but a total collapse to the point of living in huts? That's not possible without some kind of extremely low IQ population being imported in.

>>133630629
Chairs are definitely a result of World War 1. They needed them to stop the tank drivers from dying from exhaustion during combat.

>>133629343
Some people just don't understand the notion of an acquired taste. The fact that so many people fall for sweet fizzy drinks tells me that like half of the population is stuck at the level of a 7 y.o. kid w.r.t. food preferences.

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>>133631034
>Chairs are definitely a result of World War 1

>>133630337
>stabilize
>entirely dependent on foreign aid to keep your population from immediately crashing by upwards of 50% in the here and now
Pick one.


If the US alone ended all foreign aid, a few hundred million would die in the famine, chaos, war and plague that would result.
If the entire west ended aid, along with all our charities, we'd see over a billion dead in 5 years, most of it in the first year.

>>133631152
> tfw you have to operate a gatling gun 16 hours a day sitting of a shaky wooden stool.

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>>133625354
> I want to reproduce
> I am a transphobe

OK...

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>>133631347
Chairs existed before WW1 holy shit lmao

>>133631518
you gonna try and tell me we had futons before ww2 fagot?

>>133631518
> tfw no adjustable armchairs in your trench

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>>133631626
Yea but I think you are pretending to be retarded

>>133626305
I personally don't like the taste of beer either but how egotistic do you have to be to think "I don't like beer, therefore no one likes beer and they're pretending"?

>>133629142
The fools don't realize the fact that there have been multiple cases of elders decrying the youth just reinforces the whole cyclical "fourth turning" view of history they find so unsettling.

The reason we always hear of elders decrying the youth is precisely because it is only during the peak of a declining civilization that there will be elderly men of leisure to sit back reflect and record their disdain. When a society collapses there isn't much room for old codgers to spend their days ruminating. During hard times history is recorded by the youth not nostalgic geriatrics.

CONSERVATISM IS PROGRESSIVISM DRIVING THE SPEED LIMIT

>>133630821
After the war, RCA developed color television with newly patented technology that was now more readily available for mass production due to the war effort.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/opinion/the-first-televised-war.html?mcubz=0

https://books.google.com/books/about/War_and_Television.html?id=MF8WnvUtyZ4C
^Great book

Same thing happened with radio after ww1. The mass production of resources leads to a surplus which is then pushed into the economy for consumption.
https://www.nyu.edu/classes/stephens/History%20of%20Television%20page.htm
>golden age of television was right after ww2

>>133631152
http://www.google.com.pg/patents/US2502819

>>133620823
>liberals can only think through cartoons that tell them how to think

Really gets the almonds rattling

>>133620823

Such a good comic.

>>133632016
Please archive or screenshot

>https://nytimes com/2017/04/07/opinion/the-first-televised-war.html?mcubz=0
https://archive.is/pQSFI

>>133632016
>http://www.google.com.pg/patents/US2502819

so??

>Around 1850, the French introduced a reclining camp bed that could serve as a chair, a bed and a chaise longue. It was portable and featured padded arm rests and a steel frame. In the late 1800s, many designs were found for motion chairs that were made of wood with a padded seat and back. Designs from France and America included a document or book holder.[8] The first reclining chair was reportedly owned by Napoleon III.[8]

>>133632112
The point I'm terying to make is that war has allowed for these things to be consumed by everyone, not just the wealthy.

>NAPOLEON
>BEFORE WW1 RECLINERS WERE TECHNOLOGY RESERVED FOR ROYALTY

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>>133627413
>So things have been steadily getting worse every generation since the ancient greeks and romans?

Oh boy, how close you are, how close you are.

>Radical Traditionalism rejects the modernist assumption of progressive human evolution, regarding it as the exact opposite of how the universe functions. For Traditionalism, all things begin at their zenith and gradually degenerate, through a series of stages, into mere shadows of their former glory, a pattern no less true of human beings.

>>133632069
I fucking love you

>>133632248
Well the point I am making is lmao at some retards who say chairs are a result of WW1

>>133620823
Define "harm".
I prefer war over tinder & twitter culture.

>>133620823
I like the complete lack of counter argument.
>first guy "here's some charts and facts regarding this matter"
>second guy "Oh my God I can't believe you even I just can't even right now how can you have that opinion, you're so wrong because your facts are false it's the current year how can anyone be so ignorant I can't even right now everyone knows this is wrong"

>>133627413
>>133627594
Progressives are just as blind because they assume every single generation is better than the previous.

>>133632495
"Trigger fingers turned to Twitter fingers."
-Dwake

Everybody feels this way. My disdain for PC culture and polite liberalism comes from the realization that everybody wants conflict and war. It is simultaneously glorified and disavowed. Interesting to watch people fight their intrinsic nature on all fronts including sexuality, but then use nature as an example as to why it's okay to mutilate genitals and be accepting of all cultures.


Really
Activates
Me
Think

>>133632495
No thank you.

>>133621302
Only the Little Bobby Tables one was funny, but niche humor

>>133620823
you have to be okay with women shitty behavior or they won't fuck you.

Describes modern society to a T

>>133620823
Well, there has been a demographic shift from white traditionalism to non-white multiculturalism. It's a moral decay if you support the former, a gift of life if you support the latter. These guys are just showing their allegiance.

>>133630337
The UN has consistently had to revise their projections for Africa's population upwards as their birth rates have failed to decline as much as predicted. Europe is already substantially outnumbered by niggers.

>>133620823
xkcd is nu-male tier

sage

Haven't liked this guy's comics in years.
The posted comic is three proudly drawn fallacies for the price of one, namely the ad-hominem, the strawman, and the non-sequitur. Then the final indignant, huffy riposte implicitly concedes the argument that stupid people breeding does in fact result in stupid people.
If it weren't for Randal's smarmy faggot politics his comics would be merely palatable. I unironically love studying and reading about math, I've been using computers almost longer than he's been alive, so I get all this guy's "jokes." They just aren't funny. I will grant he is well-educated and knowledgeable but that's about it.

>>133632251
Makes sense, the cycle of civilization mirrors the cycle of the human condition - A period of intense growth and upheaval, followed by a short pinnacle era, ended by a slow degradation and death.

>>133621711
I said its debunked so its debunked

thats how it works now

>people itt occupied with economic stagnation when they should be looking at moral decay
There is no doubt that we are more morally insecure than people 100 years ago, even though we're better off now (for the time being). Atheism, nihilism, and apathy are the ruling virtues of our society, especially among the most intelligent; before they were religion, purpose, and industry.

Before any butt mad atheists call me a Christ cuck, I'd tell then that they are living proof that our society has morally declined. Atheism is a spiritual application of nihilism, if you are an atheist you are giving in to moral decline and declaring traditionalism the loser.

>>133620823
>More harm has been done by people panicked over societal decline that societal decline ever did


>OMG DRUMPF IS LITERALLY HITLER AND NAZIS ARE TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE EVIL! IF YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR HILARY I HOPE YOU DIE BEFORE YOU CAN BREED.


It's like looking into a funhouse mirror.

>>133621711
See above. It would refute the arguments if /pol/ didn't have clear numerical and statistical evidence of decline, and liberals weren't constantly harping about how conservatives are evil and out to destroy women and minorities.