HAHAHAHHHAHAH

So meeting with Russians is news now? It's not illegal

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>>133617611
>tfw the entire Drumpf crime family will be in orange jumpsuits by the end of the year

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/news-releases/complaint-firm-behind-dossier-former-russian-intel-officer-joined-lobbying-effort

He would have to have offered Russian-government-backed-intel for this to be significant.

>>133617712

He wants the US to lift sanctions against Russia.

Not your average person of Russian descent desu ;)

>>133617712
If you are against the globalist, everything is illegal

>>133617611
5 more months to go for our 1 year President.

>>133617611
Nothingburger. You'll never stop Trump, just deal with it.

>>133617848
Why is Russia our enemy exactly?

>they're fucking patriarchal white males

They're actually a better ally than Western Europe because they bomb ISIS instead of importing them.

>>133617885

There's a difference between a translator and a lobbyist

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>>133617717
I know you're just shit posting, but some people unironically believe that.

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>>133617611
>Shill story repeated from yesterday
>translator is a spy cause (((They))) say so
>twatter screen shot (((AP)))
>rainbow flag

This nothing burger is delicious!!!

>>133618070
No, I'm not shitposting. Trump's Russia ties go back to the 80s. It's glorious to see all this unravel.

K keep me posted.
sage

>>133618248
>Trump's Russia ties go back to the 80s

and your ties to your mom go back to 1997.

I literally do not understand why people care about this Russia nonsense.

The DOJ under Obama let the woman in; why wasn't Obama doing anything about this supposed "collusion" or "hacking" [not even sure that plot is still being pushed; seems to have fallen off the planet since, again, zero proof]; why are people willing to let Obama's admin slide for doing nothing?

But, nothing went on, in actuality and stupid people are hellbent on thinking they're in the know.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

How will Drumpfpanzees wriggle their way out of this one? It's all very well dismissing everything that goes against the alt-right narrative "faike noooooos! xD" but when push comes to shove the Russia stuff is acually has a lot of truth to it as every new day reveals. And I say this as a Republican, not a liberal.

>>133618021
Heh

>>133617712
>>133617740

>https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20

>52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510

>(b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

>(g)Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.

What qualifies as solicitation under the act?

>A communication that provides instructions on how or where to send contributions or donations

Now lets look at Trump Jr's email chain:

>offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary

>Trump Jr: Great. It will likely be Paul Manafort (campaign boss) my brother in law (Jared Kushner) and me. 725 Fifth Ave 25th floor.

Trump Jr sent an email (a communication) to provide instructions on when and where to meet (a solicitation under the act) for foreign nationals to donate "Political Opposition Research" including "some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary" (a thing of value) to "the Trump campaign"

Trump Jr also forwarded the whole email chain to Kushner and Manafort prior to the meeting, which they MUST have read to discover the time and place of the meeting, and which they attended.

>B-but "muh information" isn't a thing of value!!!!

The Federal Election Committee already ruled (>http://saos.fec.gov/aodocs/1981-51.pdf) in an advisory opinion that any "uncompensated volunteer services" from a foreign national to produce any type of work for a campaign constitutes a "thing of value" and therefore violates the act.

>>133618248
Bullshit. Trumps ties were made in Chyna.

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>>133618525
obama leaf arrives

>>133618070
Don't you get it, Trump has been running scams and laundering for corrupt Russian officials through real estate for decades. There is a lot to unravel.

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>>133618525

>>133618021
They're undemocratic dictatorship rife with corruption and nepotism. It's amongst the most favourite playgrounds of wealthy jews.

>>133618314
*2004

>>133617712

It's a joy watching you Trump lovers continue to grasp at straws and make excuses for all of the lies coming out of this family of spoiled retards.

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>>133618525

>>133617611
So who is it? More than likely we can connect them to Hillary and her campaign first.

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>>133618725
Makes up for losing the presidency for eight years, eh?

>>133618390
>every new day reveals

>>133618689
So they are just like us?

>>133618725
Why can't you shitpost your own site? Everyone here is just bored of you kids pretending you're taking action by trolling. You're troublesome as gnats, irritating but pointless except as prey.

>>133618725
ill indulge

you do realize the whole muh russia conspiracy is about the massive corruption by the democrats being revealed and costing them the election?

this all ties back to the corrupt left.

dems are like a serial rapist getting mad at someone for interrupting a rape.

>>133618725

Have a you my friend. Its clear your going through some hard times, having lost the government and losing the cultural war and all.

>>133618525

Have a you fag

>>133618390
Well since he was working for the SoS at the time...

>>133617611
>russian-american

so....an american...of russian heritage

trump..is...over....

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>>133617611
>entire Don Jr. "collusion" narrative melts down overnight when people find out the "Russian lawyer" was actually a Democrat lobbyist and employee of Fusion GPS, confirming the attempt entrapment
>Jew York Times once again outed as the leading purveyor of fake news
>"B-B-BUT TRUMP JUNIOR MET WITH SOMEONE OF RUSSIAN HERITAGE ONCE THIS ONE TIME!!!"

>>133618788
Someone better tell the Federal Election Commission that, because they disagree :^)

>>156844

>http://saos.fec.gov/aodocs/1981-51.pdf

>The first question you ask is whether an individual who is a foreign national, according to the definition in 2 U.S.C. 441e, may volunteer his services to the Committee to the same extent as would be permitted under the volunteer services exception in 2 U.S.C. 431(8)(B)(i). As you know, 441e prohibits any person who is a foreign national from making "any contribution of money or other thing of value" in connection with any election to any political office. It is also unlawful for any person to solicit, accept, or receive any prohibited contribution from a foreign national. The current prohibition on contributions by foreign nationals had its origin in the Foreign Agents Registration Act Amendments of 1966. Pub. L. No. 89-486, 8, 80 Stat. 244 (1966). At that time the prohibition applied to "any contribution of money or other thing of value" by an agent of a foreign principal in connection with any primary or other election to any political office. 18 U.S.C. 613 (1970). The scope of the current statute, 2 U.S.C. 441e, clearly reaches beyond elections for Federal office, and the term contribution as used here expressly includes "money or other thing of value." Compare 2 U.S.C. 441a. Accordingly, the Commission concludes that a foreign national artist would be prohibited by 2 U.S.C. 441e from donating his uncompensated volunteer services to the Committee to create an original work of art for the Committee's use in fundraising.

>>133618725

By abandoning their values, the Republicans have shown everyone just how cheap those values are.

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What the FUCK Tutumpf is finished fellow bros

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>>133617611

Let me guess the "source" isn't named in the article, right?

>>133617611
hahahahahahahaha a politician meeting with a lobbyist is illegal?

meanwhile Hillary received millions of dollars from all kinds of shady countries. liberals should do us all a favor and jump off the nearest bridge.

>>133618929

> Two hands.

>>133617611
funny how in all those emails that were leaked because the pedophile John Podesta made his password password, you never once read about them helping the American people. All this spinning by the kikes about russia to keep the discussion off the actual emails and how much blatant corruption and lack of ethics they revealed

>>133617848
I'm pretty sure you could say that about every Russian, you retarded mouth breather.

>>133618929
Not very dank

>>133618945
>you do realize the whole muh russia conspiracy is about the massive corruption by the democrats being revealed and costing them the election
Do you have an ounce of proof for any of this?

Russia definitely interfered with the election, the CIA, FBI, and even Trump have admitted as much.

>>133618985
>http://saos.fec.gov/aodocs/1981-51.pdf

Why are you posting about money and gifts?

>>133619055
>Let me guess the "source" isn't named in the article, right?

"Russian-American lobbyist tells AP"

Just how retarded are you?

>>133618852

Eh, that's life. I do hope Trump signs the health care bill if it passes the Senate. Then I'd get to watch the people that voted for him suffer as they lose health insurance!

>>133618945

Don't forget to take your meds today. They'll protect you from all the mean fake news out to hurt your orange messiah.

>>133618021
you amerifats really need to lookup on Russia and not just watch RT, the URSS falling doesn't mean that Russia is magically clean and democratic again, it just balkanized and remained a corrupted and less totalitarian shithole, sanctions or no sanctions, they want to be a superpower on their own and fail at it, they only have PR left.
With that being said the story is bogus and it looks like a setup more and more, eiter DOn Jr took the bait or really wanted to act the "hero". That Russian lawyer is an advent Trump hater on social media and is pushing the Russia narrative herself, which makes no sense if she's a pro-Putin Kremlin associate.

>>133617611
That's it. It's over. Trump will be impeached. Hillory will be president. You fucking pissbabies just had to have your way, and look what you have done. There is a literal Russian in the WH.

Racist, misogynist, islamophonic, homophobic, jerks will always lose in the end. Say it with me, morons... Madam.

>>133619184
Try actually reading the text next time:

>a foreign national artist would be prohibited by 2 U.S.C. 441e from donating his uncompensated volunteer services to the Committee

>donating uncompensated volunteer services

>volunteer services

A foreign national cannot donate their labor to work on something to a campaign. The ruling is crystal clear.

guess the Natalia Veselnitskaya story didn't work out.....the LEFTists are desperate

>>133619291
YASSS DRUMPFGHRDZ IMBEACH! SLAY GUEEN HILLARR

>>133619351
What did she work on? A 20 minute presentation on adoption is not campaign work by any stretch.

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>>133617611
I think "the point" of all this is to reveal how hypocritical the crooked politicians are. This will all highlight "why don't we investigate Hillary?" Maybe even then leading into investigating Hillary.
>faith
That's the word you need to understand. I have faith the President will do the right thing.

>>133617611
A man can lobby to the entirety of the US government but not to Trump?

>>133617848
>people actually think like this
wtf is wrong with you muh Russia people

>>133617712
they know
they just want to keep this going until
> Trump's fav bond movie is From Russia with Love
THEY KNOW their whole muh russia is over
russia hacked the election
russia dealt with trump
...
...
one russian citizen spoke for 1 minute with some people on trump's campaign <- you are here
...
...
...
...
... <- they have enough news cycle fodder to reach here - at which point they think people will forget about the last 9 months.

>>133618712
You are only 13 years old?

>Russian-American
>American with Russian heritage
How scandalous

>>133619436

Quoting the email chain:

>some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary

Quoting Trump Jr:

>The information they suggested they had about Hillary Clinton I thought was Political Opposition Research.

The labour spent to gather the Political Opposition Research is clearly "uncompensated volunteer services" by foreign nationals.

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>>133617611
>meanwhile, russian lawyer that has ties to the clintons, obama, and podesta sits behind russian ambassador at obama event
>democrats colluding with russians and foreign agents for decades
>democrats meddling with foreign elections

Don't throw stones in glass houses, degenerate.

>>133619635
Follow the conversation, he's saying the cunt is 13-years-old.

>>133619436
>adoption
What are you talking about? Have you read the emails Trump Jr. released?

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>>133618248
Democrats colluded with the soviets against Reagan. Just fyi.

>>133619792
The emails were before the meeting. The bitch went off about Russian adoption laws in the presentation and everyone walked out.

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>>133617712
FUGGIN GLORBAL GRUMPF YOU CANT HAVE TWO SCOOPS YOU CANT MEET WITH RUSSIANS WHAT THE FUCK

>>133617717
Drumpfs finished for sure

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>>133619739
Forhelved det var en ban fælde :D

>>133618032
indeed

>>Veselnitskaya works closely with another Russian emigre other than the suspected former Soviet spy.

>>Anatoli Samochornov, a Russia-born professional translator who worked as a part-time contractor for the State Department, worked with Veselnitskaya last year on an effort to roll back the Magnitsky Act, a law passed in 2012 which allows for sanctions against Russians accused of human rights abuses.


http://archive.is/j76Yx
http://archive.is/MFWhg
https://www.linkedin.com/in/anatoli-samochornov-321556a6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bncGXUxiIH8 [Embed]

https://web.archive.org/web/20161023154346/http://interpreterboutique.com/home/


Guy had a website it had 3 employees one had done Interpreting work for a Sorros NGO (Open Society Institute), & Alfa Bank... The site is now deleted...

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://interpreterboutique.com/home/

https://web.archive.org/web/20161023154346/http://interpreterboutique.com/home/

https://web.archive.org/web/20160912224139/http://interpreterboutique.com/elana/

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>>133619713
CNN already figured this out shill

Go get new work instructions - your material is old

http://archive.is/K43ZQ

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>>133619229
>Russian-American lobbyist

That's not a name.

A credible source is identified by name so that readers can verify that such a person exists and also verify that he is who he says he is and is a credible source of information.

>>133617611
What a fucking nothingburger. In the US it's legal to meet with citizens of foreign countries. Hell obama was born in Kenya. Maybe we should lock the DNC up for putting a Kenyan in the white house.

>>133619245
>take your meds.
ad hominem is the only way you can communicate. kys

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IT

HAS

BEGUN

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>>133617611
I don't get it. Bls eggsplain

>>133617848
How about I stuff a very big (empty) bottle of beer up your ass, you dumb homosexual nigger

>>133619176
>Russia definitely interfered with the election, the CIA, FBI, and even Trump have admitted as much.

LOL yeah they doing it now, this is what they want to demoralize us

http://www.thedailybeast.com/how-putin-played-the-far-left

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/jill-stein-green-party-middle-east-putin/2017/07/01/id/799351/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/11/democrats-spread-false-russian-information-on-trum/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-did-hillary-know-about-russian-interference-1499723857?mod=djemBestOfTheWeb

>>133619245
>le drumph orange cheeto messiah!

Gee, if I didn't know any better I'd say you sounded alot like a bigot racist?

Libs sure do love to make fun of a person's skin color, don't they. Very tolerant!

>>133618525
At least someone here is doing actual research.

Trump is protected by some sort of magical superhalo. But maybe the barrier is weakening.

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>>133621029
See
>>133620188

You need to go ask brock for new material

>>133620737
The only (mostly) unbiased website is the WSJ and that's a speculative opinion piece.

>http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/jill-stein-green-party-middle-east-putin/2017/07/01/id/799351/
Who cares about Jill Stein or what she does, shes in no way affiliated to the Democrats.

>http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/11/democrats-spread-false-russian-information-on-trum/
That's exclusively about the Russian dossier; I wouldn't call political opponents trying to use a potentially damning document part of any conspiracy.


So are you saying Trump is trying to "demoralize" America by admitting Russia meddled in the election?

>>133617611
Oversaturated Russian collusion narrative will backfire on the Democrats.

Some Russians were my house movers in September and then I voted for trump. Collusion!

>>133617848
>He wants the US to lift sanctions against Russia.
Unless there was an actual exchange of money, goods, favors, or the promise of any of the above it's not illegal to meet with a person from another country who has specific political views about how they'd like relations between your two countries to progress.

>>133617611
>russian-american
Is that like an african-american, as in an american with african ancestry? Does meeting with someone like that means your colluding with Africa to destroy US?

>>133618525
Alright, listen up.

You're gonna see a lot of talk related to the following laws in relation to Don Jr:

• 11 CFR § 110.20(g) / Title 11 as a Whole / [www law cornell edu/cfr/text/11/110.20]
• 52 USC § 30121 / Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) / [www law cornell edu/uscode/text/52/30121]
• 36 USC § 510 / Presidential Inaugural Ceremonies / [www law cornell edu/uscode/text/36/510]

Basically, these laws say that you can't accept anything of value from foreign nationals for campaign purposes (contributions, etc.)

Most shills cite these passages and then argue that "anything of value" (the phrase used in those laws) includes information and/or dirt, and therefore Don Jr. broke the law.

They are wrong.

I repeat, THIS STORY HAS NO LEGS.

"Anything of value" has never been and legally cannot be construed as "information".

definitions.uslegal.com/a/anything-of-value/
www.lrc.ky.gov/Statutes/statute.aspx?id=43302
law.justia.com/codes/ohio/2006/orc/jd_103-3e3.html

Again, this isn't just loophole shit, this is a basic legal definition that can be found in literally and set of state (federal?) code definitions.

This basically means that Don Jr. could have met with Putin himself in total secrecy for any dirt about anyone and it would be completely legally sound.

And if you're worried about the morality of the situation, I would suggest that you look at the archive of the Russian lawyer's Facebook page:

archive.is/mdSre (note that the FB profile that's logged in at the archive is not mine)

She hates Trump.

TL;DR: Even if the meeting was illegal (which it isn't), the lawyer was obviously not going for a collusion angle.

>>133619176
>Do you have an ounce of proof for any of this?
DNC leaks, aka the "RUSSIA HACKED THE ELECTION" leaks, simply revealed that Democrats rigged their own primary and that they're utterly corrupt. You didn't actually believe Russia hacked voting machines like most of your simp brethren, right?

Why is it so many libshits never ask what "hacked the election" even means? They just take their blue checkmarks at face-value and never bother finding out what was actually "hacked" (read: taken by thumbdrive by a DNC Bernie supporter).

>>133618525
>any type of work for a campaign constitutes a "thing of value" and therefore violates the act.
Multiple legal scholars disagree with you and if you're really going to pursue this route then the entire HRC campaign and the Democratic National Committee leadership will also be indicted for taking opposition research from Ukraine's government.

Your side is actually guilty of the thing you're accusing Don Jr. of doing.

>>133620737
What is it to "influence" an election, no one seems to be defining that word.

You could just as easily say /pol/ has influenced the election or MASS MEDIER himself.
The world is so interconnected today, Bataclan, Brexit, Germany's refugees, everything influenced the election.

>>133621867
It's a meaningless canard used by libshits to try and explain away why Americans rejected them in 49 states.

>>133618525
I love you Obama Leaf.

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>>133621190
Fusion GPS is founded by WSJ journalist...
The Russians help fund left wing anti-fracking groups, and environmentalist in the US

Turn on MSN, pick any channel, then change to the other one, now go to fox... This is what the last stage of Demoralization looks like, Normalization process will not be as much fun... Spring is almost here, or it will be a Red Hot Summer...

>>133621479
Unfortunately the Federal Election Commission already ruled that any "uncompensated volunteer services" by a foreign national violate the act and so the labour used to generate the political opposition research and collect the official documents violate the law:

>http://saos.fec.gov/aodocs/1981-51.pdf

>The first question you ask is whether an individual who is a foreign national, according to the definition in 2 U.S.C. 441e, may volunteer his services to the Committee to the same extent as would be permitted under the volunteer services exception in 2 U.S.C. 431(8)(B)(i). As you know, 441e prohibits any person who is a foreign national from making "any contribution of money or other thing of value" in connection with any election to any political office. It is also unlawful for any person to solicit, accept, or receive any prohibited contribution from a foreign national. The current prohibition on contributions by foreign nationals had its origin in the Foreign Agents Registration Act Amendments of 1966. Pub. L. No. 89-486, 8, 80 Stat. 244 (1966). At that time the prohibition applied to "any contribution of money or other thing of value" by an agent of a foreign principal in connection with any primary or other election to any political office. 18 U.S.C. 613 (1970). The scope of the current statute, 2 U.S.C. 441e, clearly reaches beyond elections for Federal office, and the term contribution as used here expressly includes "money or other thing of value." Compare 2 U.S.C. 441a. Accordingly, the Commission concludes that a foreign national artist would be prohibited by 2 U.S.C. 441e from donating his uncompensated volunteer services to the Committee to create an original work of art for the Committee's use in fundraising.

>the Commission concludes that a foreign national artist would be prohibited by 2 U.S.C. 441e from donating his uncompensated volunteer services to the Committee

>donating his uncompensated volunteer services

>>133621750
See >>133622190 for the relevant Federal Election Commission advisory ruling.

>>133620310
> complain about as homs
> "kill yourself"

Your family should have lived in Dresden.

>>133622019
Fuck Obama. Advocating for the rule of law is only partisan in the minds right wing authoritarians

>>133622242
Cool, so when do we jail Hillary, her campaign staff, and the Democratic National Committee leadership for doing the thing you're accusing Don Jr. of doing?

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/10/everybody-is-forgetting-that-clinton-allies-did-the-same-thing-as-don-jr/

inb4 you don't reply

>>133622462


>http://politico com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
https://archive.is/UGMJH

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>>133622492
>linking pilitico in (((current year)))
Come the fuck on, mate.

>>133622462
Hillary didnt do the same as Don Jr, they did way worse, they actually coordinated with a foreign govt

Don jr just got a tip, which ended up fake.

>>133617712
Ukaraine, Saudi Arabia and I believe Chins were directly contributing to Hillary's campaign but being within eyesight of a Russian is grounds for a coup.

>>133622462
If the evidence exists to show it, LOCK HER UP. Advocating for the rule of law is only partisan in the minds of right wing authoritarians.

>>133617611
Russian-AMERICAN lobyist? FUCKING TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. HANG THEM ALL. DRUMPF IS FINISHED THIS TIME.

>>133622659
I know that. I'm just fascinated by this notion that Don Jr. meeting a Democrat operative who worked for Fusion GPS is proof of "Russian collusion", but DNC officials flying out to Ukraine and getting dirt on Manafort in exchange for post-election favors somehow isn't "collusion".

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/12/exclusive-radical-dem-worked-for-russian-lawyer-who-met-with-trump-jr/

Even WaPo is forced to admit the link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/07/11/inside-the-link-between-the-russian-lawyer-who-met-donald-trump-jr-and-the-trump-dossier/?utm_term=.1c14ac110de3

She was also let into the country by Loretta Lynch
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341788-exclusive-doj-let-russian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump


So long story short: A Democrat shill (and she is a Democrat shill, check her facebook page: http://archive.is/mdSre) was brought in by Fusion GPS for the sole purpose of setting up this narrative and trying to entrap the Trump campaign, and her visit was facilitated by the Obama administration. That's basically Watergate 2.0.

Yet Brockbots are trying to pretend this implicated anyone other than the DNC. WEW LAD

>>133618021
Neocons control the Pentagon and thus our foreign policy and they are fiercely anti-Russia. McMaster was on the board I believe of the fucking arch-neocon think tank American Enterprise Institute before the Deep State took out Flynn and replaced him with one of their own.

>>133618525
Obama leaf is the only person on /pol/ I respect. His work is a light shinning in the darkness.

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>>133623203

Dont forget this

Yet another "RUSSIAN SPY DEFINITELY GOING TO IMPEACH TRUMP" discovered to be a Fusion GPS operative

https://www.circa.com/story/2017/04/05/nation/a-key-senator-said-a-former-russian-spy-is-lobbying-without-registering-as-a-foreign-agent

Poor libshits can't stop losing (and lying).

>>133618248
is trump the secret leader of the mafiya
how cool is that

>>133617866
Breddy much this

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>>133623203

DNC tries to honeypot Trump

DNC exposed for honeypot

>>133623292
Flynn took himself out.

>>133624215
I'm having trouble accepting the "fact" that the Trump campaign received an unsolicited offer from a "russian" and did no research into her before replying. And if anon can dig up this dirt on her so easily the campaign must have also. So there has got to be some plan to let people stick their necks out before dropping the ax.

>>133623051
There's ample evidence because they used the opposition research they took from Ukraine to get Manafort booted. Read the fucking articles. Alexandra Chalupa worked for the Ukraine government and the DNC and was PAID for her opposition research. Your "thing of value" was taken from her. Your side is guilty. Any attempt to handwave otherwise is just neo-communist babble.

Meanwhile, there's zero evidence Don Jr took anything of value from your Fusion GPS shill. Name one actionable piece of campaign intelligence he gleaned from her and passed on to the Trump campaign. You can't. And if you actually could, you'd get a Pulitzer.

Therefore, your side is actually guilty of the thing you're accusing Don Jr. of. It's not hard.

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>>133618390

So where is the crime?

>>133624458
ok, they didn't actually collude but they colluded to collude.
checkmate

>>133624408
Yeah. It's called getting the MSM to accidentally out the fact the Obama administration directly interfered with the US elections. Veselnitskaya, who is again a Democrat shill, wouldn't have even been allowed into the country had Loretta Lynch not cleared her.

In a rational and sane world, Obama would be getting investigated by a Grand Jury right about now and Loretta Lynch would be on trial for interfering not once, but twice, in national elections and in an ongoing FBI investigation.

>>133617848
>hey if your dad gets in power can you talk about easignthe economic crippling punitive sanctions on my country

HOW DARE SOMEONE LISTEN TO SUCHA. REQUEST

The left has absolutely no understanding how how the world operates do they? It's not illegal to talk to a Russian and listen to their concerns and desires you mongoloid

>>133624616
>Democrats/Hillary colluded with Ukraine directly and paid for it but it doesn't count because reasons; here's this red-herring

>>133617749

You might remember, but that was the original claim made by the Russians at this meeting.

>>133617611
Trump is such a faggot cuck. Why doesn't he bring up israel's meddling in the us election? That's literally why we elected him for.

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>>133617611

THIS IS JUST LIKE STAR WARS

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/saudi-arabia-has-funded-20-hillarys-presidential-campaign-saudi-crown-prince-claims
A foreign power, Saudi Arabia, literally donated to hillarys campaign

Ukraine interfered in the election to help Clinton. Documented fact that nobody talks about.
http://archive.is/IExhs

Russian lawyer trump jr contacted is linked to the firm the dnc hired to produce the infamous trump dossier.
http://archive.is/2y7Js

So if Don Jr committed treason then so did Hillary and co.
DRIP

DRIP

DRIP

>>133623005

And that's relevant to this how?

The mid terms are going to be the most hilarious things in history. I think liberals might honestly just start killing people, their anger is going to be so high. I don't think you realize how retarded this strategy is. The Democrats are focusing everything on the Russia shit, but there's no way they have enough "material" here to keep it going for a year and a half until the mid terms. And without that, what exactly are the Democrats running on? Even if the Republicans pass a new healthcare act, it wont go into effect until after the mid terms (they're not stupid) which means Dems cant run on that. The economy will be booming, as Repubs will cut taxes.

>>133618612
How do you know that? You are making up a conclusion and then finding things that support your preconceived assumption

Why does everyone on the left think so backwardly

>trump is under investigation because we think he did something wrong and there isn't any proof which is why he is under investigation

Okay Robespierre

>>133624915
What about israel? Got any sources on that?

>>133619028

Democrats are so in league wit Sand Niggers that Putin seems less anti-Americans.

You just had a Hawaiin judge side with sand niggers over Americans.

You think you'll win anyone but the sand nigger vote next time when Democrats in government make decisions like this?

I think if Putin ran for president of the USA in 2020 he'd come in second after Trump while your POC candidate would come in third.

times have changed.

>>133624543
No picture has ever so perfectly encapsulated the modern Left

>>133617712
Conspiracy to attack a federal institution is

He is F U C KE D

>>133624616

I actually bought baking soda, no cocaine from that cop. So I didn't actually do anything illegal...r-right?

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>>133617611
>lobbying is illegal
don't hate the playa, hate the game

>>133624984
Correction:
Trump isn't under investigation for anything. Libshits just like to LARP that he is.

>>133624854
Oh yeah, the one that worked for the democrats?

>>133625027
welp then obama,hillary,bush are all going to prison prolly along with 95% of our government

>>133624215

They're trying to hamfist this thing. They're desperate.

If there was something here, they would have pushed this story earlier.

Last chance to keep the Russian narrative alive.

>>133625084
You like to pretend that he isn't?

>>133620393
Well it was democrats they put the japs I'm campa

>>133625027
oh and also most MSM outlets that were attacking the democratic process

>>133624566

For Kushner it's another example of him lying on his security forms, which is perjury. Apparently he's amended the form and added over 100 people... you know he just forgot.

Also, doesn't it make you feel like a ridiculous retard for believing the Trumps that they had no meeting or collusion with Russia over and over, and were lying?

Nah, you don't care. You WANT to be lied to. You NEED it.

Trumpcucks such dumb fucks.

>>133622190
Hey Obama leaf.. Why aren't you talking about how, under the Obama administration this "foreign national" FROM RUSSIA was let into the US without a visa?

>>133625139
>muh Obama
>Muh Hillary

Trump has the AG in his pocket and has yet to charge them with any crime.

>>133617611
Hillary was eager to nuke Russia while on the campaign trail and everyone is still acting surprised that the media is pushing this narrative.

>>133625250
Entrapment of course. Cop tactics.

>>133624765

There was an expectation of quid pro quo on the Russians side. They give dirt, Trump repays them with easing sanctions.

This timeline watching the Right push their head in the sand and believe their fake media is hilarious. Mueller's report is going to be GOLD!

Flynn, Kushner and Manafort are all going to jail. Don Jr. right now looks okay...but we all know this is just the tip of the iceberg so...

tick tock, tick tock.

>>133625126

Fake news. Literally not appearing in any reality other than the one in the Right Wing dumbfuck bubble.

It's not going to save you.

>>133625164
>Last chance to keep the Russian narrative alive.

LOL. As if more shit isn't going to keep pouring out...

This shit has gotten bigger and bigger with not even a hint of "last" anything.

This is going to be like Benghazi, where investigation leads to more revelations, which lead to more investigations... buckle up Trumpcuck.

>>133625618
Wait but collusion isn't illegal? And the lady worked for the Democrats, is this really your comeback plan?

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>>133625181
I'm not pretending anything. I'm stating a fact.

>>133625793
This. They're milking it for 2020. That's the real purpose behind this Russia thing.

But again, it's even funnier that Trump never brings up israel into the conversation. Just goes to show you who's really in charge.

>>133625793
The entire libshit argument about "Russian collusion" now boils down to the fact the Obama administration imported a Democrat operative working for Fusion GPS to try and run a sting on Don Jr.

You look ridiculous, and you're going to pay for it in 2018.

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>>133618525
Didn't hillary take money from saudi arabia to fund her campaign?

>>133626140
Yeah, like 20% of her campaign money came from them.

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>>133617611

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If any of you faggots are following the Tea Leaves Generals, there is a new on up.

>>133619409

>>133619250
this is fake news

>>133626356
The worse thing is that in SA beat up women and execute gays, but oh the left is against anti diversity but willingly accept donations from countries like this my sense of justice is what drove me away from the left

>>133621040
show me a msm with poor ratings

>>133626853
fuck you

>>133619245
Most of Drumpf's supports are racist straight white men who do not get preferential treatment under Obamacare. It's really no wonder few of them give a shit if Obamacare crashes and burns. All they care about is their white privileges.

>>133624458
>>Meanwhile, there's zero evidence Don Jr took anything of value from your Fusion GPS shill

Their intention to do so makes them just as guilty since the campaign finance law makes solicitation just as illegal as receipt.

>>133626140
If that can be proven then lock her up too. Advocating the rule of law is only a partisan issue to right wing authoritarians who despise the rule of law.

>>133617611
LMAO THOSE NIGGERS ARE STILL ON THAT "MUH RUSSIA" SHIT????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOW FUCKING PATHETIC

>Russian-American

THIS IS IT DRUMFY DIES TODAY

>>133624458

Stop arguing the legality. It's a slide technique.

Everyone knows it isn't illegal. Period, end of story.

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>>133624408

Sssshh. Shush.

The left's hubris is blinding so they won't see it, but do try sit back and enjoy the fireworks while gathering and disseminating far and wide the evidence.

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>>133624566
BEING GONAMD BRUMPF IN THE SECOND SCOOP

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>the president is russkie cock sucker

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>>133625232

>security forms

Says the faggot shill who has never held security clearance and never will.

>>133617866
Yep

>>133622190
>>donating his uncompensated volunteer services

really grabbing at straws here on this one... by that logic, asking a Russian what time it is at a meeting could be considered "donating uncompensated volunteer services". Get real

>>133617717
We can't let this guy have the nuclear codes.

>>133629817
lol

>>133617717
drumfilkininfjenjfne will never ever recover.

bernie can still win.

>>133629711
More like the labour of multiple foreign nationals to assemble the "Political Opposition Research" and "official documents" that Trump Jr thought he was getting are definitely a donation of "uncompensated volunteer services" by foreign nationals.

>>133628991
You must not have ever held a clearance either. For your average person going through a SSBI, omission of meeting with foreign nationals on a SF-86 (which asks the applicant through several similarly phrased questions if this has occurred) will at the least result in denial of clearance or at worst charged with perjury. So why does Kushner still have clearance?

>>133618525
That "thing of value" was information regarding Hillary's corrupt operations. This is just a genetic fallacy: the information is wrong and inaccurate because somebody I dislike said it.
If the Chinese told Hillary that Trump is corrupt, it would not be illegal for Hillary to relay this information: it is still accurate and public knowledge (in our case it is, once the emails leaked). Foreign nationals funding a campaign is not equivalent to information provided to Trump Jr. about Hillary's corruption. Don't be corrupt and people won't pass information around. Had the Russians 'found' the Trump 'pussy' tapes and forwarded them to Clinton, their camp would do well to publish them: information is information, don't make incriminating comments or be corrupt.

>>133618725
>grasp straws
Nice b8. So good to know that people are blatantly racist toward russians.

>>133630845
No, they have no real financial value if they hand it over.

>>133617611
some guy offers a meeting? what am i missing? i don't see the big deal? doesn't say they went to the meeting.m

>>133617611
>one of the dirt bags working for Russia has something to say

If anyone believes him, it would be the same as listening to a crackhead.

>>133627810
What's your point? White people should pay for everything and make nothing?
How is your shitty socialism going to work when you run out of white people?

>>133617848
Yeah, that's called diplomacy

>>133618689
America?

>>133618322
Your right it's Obama's fault

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>>133617733

>>133617611
so lawyers employed, pretty much as their entire career, to improve russian-american relations are coming out of the woodwork to trash russian-american relations by throwing a supposedly russian-friendly president under the bus to a russian-hating media feeding frenzy?

what is Putin up to?!

Is this more pissgate stuff?

>>133632083
The email chain specifically included "official documents" in addition to the political opposition research and in any case it was the labour that was used to gather it that runs afoul of the act not the information itself.

>>133633274
Official Russian documents. Not a crime.

>>133633398
Ah, so there were material goods and not just information then? And how did this opposition research and documents collect themselves? Magic? Actually it required the labour of foreign nationals to do so, which was then being donated to the Trump campaign.

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>>133617870
Still 1 more year than the side of beef thrown into a van.

>>133623415
Pathetic. It wasn't even Obamaleaf, that faggot loses 100% of the arguments he starts.

>>133633500
Does it matter?
What difference does information make?
Obtaining information isn't illegal. Russia isn't an enemy of the US. The Cold War is over. It isn't collusion. It isn't treason.

Russia could hack the DNC and had the documents to the Trump campaign and its still not collusion. The Democratic Party isn't a Government entity.

>>133617712
Russian-AMERICAN even.

>>133617733
This, they're fucked.

>>133617848
I'm American and want sanctions on Russia lifted, specifically the arms ban.

Not an ak fan btw

>>133624283
Fuck off neocohen. The Flynn shit was pushed by the Deep State to twist Trump's arm in case he started getting ideas about him have any say in foreign policy and try to get us away from Reaganite nation building. "Look how easily we ruined your guy, play along and be a good goy or we'll get you eventually."

BTW, this guy has been accused of hacking before:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-team-met-russian-accused-of-international-hacking-conspiracy

Oh Trump...

>>133636882
Archive clickbaiters
https://archive.is/nXdQi

>>133625534
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK DRIP DRIP DRIP DRUMPY. BAD, IF TRUE. BIG, IF TRUE. BOMBSHELL. DRIP DRIP DRIP. IMPEACHMENT SOON. Impeachment, soon. MUST IMPEACH drip drip drip.

>>133617848
they should be lifted

it's one of the reasons i voted for him

>>133617848
>>133617611
this is the same gay flag poster that has made several of these threads all with AP tweets. Fuckin sahhhhgeeee in all fields

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>>133631714

Kushner is effectively billionaire jetset. He meets hundreds of foreign contacts a week. In a two year oresidential runup, it is not unusual for SF-86 information to be updated upin further scrutiny.

He is not joe schmo reporting whether or not he's been busted for dui and is foolishly attempting to hide it.

This Kushner thing is not unusual. It's just not.

>>133631714

And yes- of course I've held clearance.

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>>133617733
Rinat, Fusion GPS, the Trump Dossier, Guccifer 2, DNC refusing to hand over their server, it's all connected.

>>133625534
Where was the quid pro quo? Trump has been talking about Russia for years now. Are you telling me they've been grooming him for the past half decade?

>>133617848
d-does that mean we get our veprs back?

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>>133639923

Grassley is the only legit trustworthy official in any of these committees. I am truly angry at my party.

>>133618525
Us law states informational items are not considered to be anything of value. Thanks for playing.

https://definitions.uslegal.com/a/anything-of-value/

>>133640298
The Lawyer needed a translator and this translator who she trusted absolutely was Rinat. She also contracted Fusion GPS correct? Well, she needed a translator right? So isn't it logical to assume that Rinat translated for her when she wanted to communicate with Fusion GPS?

>>133633500
The labour wasn't being donated you idiot. Nowhere in the emails does it even suggest that. Information was being offered, and there isn't anything illegal about it. US law states informational items are not a thing of value.

You also cannot determine the value of information that doesn't even exist by any stretch of the imagination. Non-existent information ABSOLUTELY has no value.

>>133622190
Moving the goalposts much? What happened to the information being a thing of value? Now you're bringing up a topic that wasn't even discussed in the emails.

>>133617611
Wasn't this guy employed by the US government?

>>133622344
What is advocating for the stretching of a law to prosecute innocent political opponents?

>>133623415
This fag has been trying this on /news/ for days. He keeps getting his ass handed to him. Information is not against the law. No services were offered. It's cut and dry.

>>133619028
t. libturd

why would jr have changed his story more than once and lied about how many people were in the room? this all looks like a setup from lynch and co with how the lawyer got into the country after being denied a visa, but how fucking stupid does jr have to be to lie about it? is this all a big distraction while they're doing something else?

>>133619028
Trump bombed Assad and Republican voters turned on him hard while liberals, the media and the political elite all praised him. Goes to show how strong those values are.

No one voted for Trump for his honesty faggot.

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>>133617611
LOL Drufmphd is finished for the 35th time! lOL

>>133618525
So what about all that supposed "dirt" on Trump that came from anonymous sources?

According to this very logic, that's just as bad as what Donald Jr. did.

>>133617848
So why was he working as a contractor for the state department, and acting as a translator for SoS office by his own admission? You see, if he's a spy and Don Jr. is bad for talking to him -- then everyone else who worked with him is bad.

Either you care about the law or your a deranged pedophile in denial.

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>>133617611

>>133624543
Bernie fags were aware of them being cucks, they did not lie to themselves.

>>133618712
MODS

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>>133642645

>>133642074
>Trump bombed Assad
source?

>>133625232
Your tears will sustain me for the next 7.5 years

>>133643180

Seriously?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-air-strike-bombing-assad-forces-trump-attack-us-white-house-latest-news-updates-a7743641.html

>be russian-american girl scout
>go to trump tower for thinmint sales
>people want you indicted for collusion

i swear this shit will eventually happen

>>133643392

Shit, wrong link.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-launches-missiles-syrian-base-after-chemical-weapons-attack-n743636

>>133626853
cunt

>>133625232
Enjoying the new salt vein we found here.

Trump didn't collude with Russia to hack the DNC. Let's see the proof if you have it.

>>133618021
I love the switch, liberals always used to berate people who spoke ill of Russia.
>the Cold War is over
>just an old white male stuck in the Cold War
And now they can't open their cock gobblers for five seconds without muh Russia.

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>>133643592
they never will though
they dont have shit

>>133617717
Won't happen. Way too much leverage. This is just to influence voting. Too and they don't realize this only strengthens Trump's base. By the next presidential election, voter ID will be a thing, so they can't even steal it, anymore.

>>133636916
based nord bot. How can the shills even compete?

Anyone else find it strange that this story is breaking right after the CEO of fusion declined to appear before a senate committee?

>>133642645
>>133642971
If this turns around and forces Mueller to look at the documents, Fusion GPS and the FISA warrants then i'm not even mad.
but like someone said earlier, why wouldn't Don Jr ring the alarm last summer if he thought that this was a setup. It would all have been in their favor.

>>133618525

So I can replace any US President-to-be just by sending an email or letter to one of the candidates, thus causing them to have broken that law and be impeached?

Wow, really made me think.

>>133643783
Holy shit
http://www.txfnews.com/News/Article/5497/Russian-coal-titan-taps-cheap-ruble-for-new-PXF

>“Suek are a net beneficiary of a very weak ruble,” says Hravchenko. The currency’s depreciation drives down the average cost of sales, as exports are sold in dollars. This has protected Suek from the worst of the commodities downturn. “They really do look healthy, I don’t think they have suffered that much,” says Hravchenko.

I found the money motive

>>133618612
The absolute state of you

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>talking to russians
>ITS ANODDA SHOA REMEMBER THE 6 QUINTILLION BILLION

>>133618725
Yet nothing ever happens it's almost like they are trying to keep you from joining our side by grasping at straws that trump will get impeach you retard

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>>133617611

democrats only trust Russians when it works in their favor....this shit is getting ridiculous

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>>133617611

Meme just off the presses

If media was bands... a meme for metal heads and alternative music listeners who are libcuck fucktards

save and spread

>>133624458
Then get drumpf to move the DoJ against her like he said he would :^)

I can't tell who is worse between the anti-trumpfags or the pro-trumpfags. Anti-trumpfags are retarded low effort shills, while the pro-trumpfags are radical circle-jerking fags.

>>133624458
also, IC and Clapper said under oath that there was no evidence of collusion but they did some unmasking in people involving Trump campaign because they intercepted some conversations, now, they either lied under oath or they haven't intercepted this (yeah right)

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>>133644509
Follow the fucking money, they want sanctions because
lower ruble => lower expenses

>>133630845
You dont understand what youre posting. The issue was that the Committee was receiving services from a foreign national. Don Jr's case is the exchange of an item and solely that with no services being rendered over a period of time

Nice job relating something unrelated whatsoever

>>133617611

>Russian-American

The mental gymnastics.

>>133617611
I met the Russian and hacked Hillary

>>133639787
I could almost agree with you we're it not for the fact that after all this Russia foolishness he amended the form with over a 100 contacts. Not forgetting one or two incidences but over a hundred contacts. So the vetting process would have began shortly after Trumps victory. Novemberish will work well enough to make this point. I would imagine, and this pure speculation, the majority of his foreign dignitary interactions would have occurred through 2016 and he couldn't even be bothered to list those. Even if he is a jet setting billionaire, there is no box to check on the form that says, jetsetting billionaires check this box in order to exempt yourself from listing foreign contacts from this form. The only instance of mass exemption that I know of comes from legislators due to the overwhelming amount of foreign dignitaries they tend to meet with. So either he simply didn't give a fuck or he hid it. Now surely at this point his lawyers have advised him to thoroughly clean out his closet and list any possible contacts that could viewed as suspicious. With you having held a clearance, you know as well as I do if you or I had failed to list a couple contacts much less over a 100, we'd have some splaining to do. I'm merely highlighting to double standard that appears throughout the US government. DUIs or other similar cases have nothing to do with what we're talking about and your point reads to me that if you meet a whole lot of people and it's hard to keep of with them you should get a pass...

>>133642074
>STILL BUTTHURT ABOUT THE AIRFIELD
fuckin hell leaf

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>>133648190 #

You're preaching to the choir. My only point is that he is neither you nor me. Nothing he has done is unusual by political bureaucrat standards.

By the way, Hillary ought to die in prison. Obama, too. I hate these demons.

>>133619028
Dems.sold-out the white working class for 3rd-world votes. Obama, Hillary, Pelosi, and Reid all supported TPP.

>>133642074
Assad isn't the enemy. The """"""moderate rebels"""""" that Hillary and McCain were arming are shitting-up the place, and are basically ISIS Lite.

>TFW Dems are beings cucks for the military industrial complex now, after bitching about Bush for 8 years

This was supposed to be the big news that was to be released. Big whoop.
Media Anon just got our appetites aroused for nothing

>>133619351
The volunteer work was for the purpose of a painting you dunce. Otherwise all those Berniefucks in Europe need to be extradited to the US for having done online campaigning.

>the left can't figure out how laws work

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>>133618929
>libtard memes

Funny how all those Russians were there LOOOONNNG before Trump even considered thinking running for presidency.

These puppets could do whatever they want and the Obama admin literally allowed them to spy or colluded with the Russians.

>>133619250
>>133618689
This is true; it is corrupt, murderous chaotic and nepotistic regime. And yet they are still one of our best potential allies, because progressive, open-border liberalism is such a threat to western civilisation.

>>133619028
Lol fucking this. Regardless of what you think of the Russia scandal, the republicans will never be able to claim the (((moral)))) highground again.

Oh man Drumpf is fucking done this time!

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>>133619250
>>133657281
>democracy
>good
No
>nepotism
>bad for a nation's leadership
You tell that to this face, bigot

>>133618985
>'Drumpf met with a russian lawyer who claimed to have dirt on Clinton, this has value and so is a gift'
>Dozens of foreign powers, including Saudi Arabia, pour billions into Clinton foundation

>>133618021
>Why is Russia our enemy exactly?
If you have to ask this question you shouldn't be participating in political discourse tbqh.

>>133617712
Lobbyist was trained in counterintelligence when he was in russian army.
He's clrealy a russian agent.

I'm not autistic enough to support Trump.

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>>133657610

>>133626853
bitch

>>133657889
Sad!

faggot leaf, an appointed commission's (((rulings))) are not legally binding on anyone but the commission and even that is a stretch.

Please god let them. If they start shooting that means we get to shoot back.

>>133657299
That's laughable considering the damage the political and social left do that you aren't shitposting about because either you're uninformed, or biased.

>>133617611

> russian-american that the ap has ever used

that isnt even a word

i'd be more inclined to give a fuck if you hadn't cried wolf every single day for the past year, media

kys

>>133657825
Not an argument. Why is russia the enemy anon.

>>133617611
This is my last Drumpf is done for response
A lobbyist job is to talk to politicians.
No doubt this guy talked to dozens of democrats and republicans.
Jr. isn't going to jail for talking to someone that lots of other politicians have talked to
At the end of the whole Russian conspiracy, I found out that the lobbyist that corrupted the whole system are trying to infiltrate the Trump
And I guess I knew that would always happen
So there, Russia story is bunch of bull shit
The real story is that politicians are being corrupted by lobbyists
But we'll do nothing about it

>>133621479

YOU LOSE:

>http://saos.fec.gov/aodocs/2007-22.pdf

>FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION ADVISORY OPINION 2007-22

>Here, you propose accepting without charge, from Canadian third party and independent candidates, certain printed materials used in previous Canadian campaigns. The materials would include flyers, advertis ements, door hangers, tri-folds, signs, and other printed material. You plan to use these items to assist you in your own campaign. Although the value of these materials may be nominal or difficult to ascertain, they have some value. The provision of these items without charge would relieve your campaign of the expense that it would otherwise incur to obtain such materials. Thus, the provision of such items without charge would constitute a contribution and, as such, would be prohibited, particularly in light of the broad scope of the prohibition on contributions from foreign nationals.

>>133618525
>leaf intellectuals

>>133663954
Too bad the FEC ruled specifically that "printed materials" with a value that is "nominal or difficult to ascertain" by a foreign national would violate the act.

>http://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-american-lobbyist-lawyer-brought-dnc-related-documents-to-trump-jr-meeting

>Rinat Akhmetshin, the Russian-American lobbyist who confirmed Friday that he attended last year’s meeting between Trump associates and a Kremlin-connected lawyer, said that the attorney brought with her a folder of information related to the DNC. According to the Associated Press, “Akhmetshin said Veselnitskaya brought with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democratic National Committee. Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to the Trump associates and suggested that making the information public could help the Trump campaign, he said.” Akhmetshin recalled to the AP the lawyer saying: “This could be a good issue to expose how the DNC is accepting bad money.”

>>133663954
>>133664194

So the "political opposition research" consisting of "plastic folder with printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democratic National Committee."

Exactly qualifies as:

>>133663954
>>133664307

>http://saos.fec.gov/aodocs/2007-22.pdf

"printed material" where even with a value that is "nominal or difficult to ascertain" they still qualify as a prohibited contribution by a foreign national.

>Here, you propose accepting without charge, from Canadian third party and independent candidates, certain printed materials used in previous Canadian campaigns. The materials would include flyers, advertis ements, door hangers, tri-folds, signs, and other printed material. You plan to use these items to assist you in your own campaign. Although the value of these materials may be nominal or difficult to ascertain, they have some value. The provision of these items without charge would relieve your campaign of the expense that it would otherwise incur to obtain such materials. Thus, the provision of such items without charge would constitute a contribution and, as such, would be prohibited, particularly in light of the broad scope of the prohibition on contributions from foreign nationals.

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>>133617611
Whoa bro. What's with the russiaphobia? Not cool.

>>133663790
You can absolutely use the information found in such items. You just can't reuse free flyer or voucher print-ups in your campaign.

If you posted this as a joke 10/10
You sound just like that raving lunatic that's been posting the same thing on /news/ over and over for the last three days

>>133617712
Meeting with Russians is illegal. Having foreign governments directly fund your campaign like Hillary is a-ok though.

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>>133617611
>Is this the end of Drumpf Volume XII

>>133664612
>>133664194
>>133664307
>>133664465

nvm scrolled down and realized you are that raving lunatic.

Yeah no, try again. If you keep searching there's gotta be SOME law Trump broke, right? No one is completely clean.

>>133664612
Exactly. No ban on info, just on the printed flyers and brochures themselves because of obvious printing $ cost.

>>133617611
are you racist against russians? Not cool...

>>133664612

Sorry, nope:

>Akhmetshin said Veselnitskaya brought with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democratic National Committee. Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to the Trump associates

The documents were physically present at the meeting, and in the email chain prior to the meeting were specifically described as:

>some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary

Trump Jr himself described it as "Political Opposition Research" which plainly and explicitly fall under the FEC's ruling that

>Although the value of these materials may be nominal or difficult to ascertain, they have some value. The provision of these items without charge would relieve your campaign of the expense that it would otherwise incur to obtain such materials.

Because they would relieve the Trump campaign the expense of generating and collecting the political opposition research and documents they were given at the meeting.

>>133664813
Here's a quick summary:
>https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20

>52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510

>(b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

>(g)Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.

What qualifies as solicitation under the act?

>A communication that provides instructions on how or where to send contributions or donations

Now lets look at Trump Jr's email chain:

>offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary

>Trump Jr: Great. It will likely be Paul Manafort (campaign boss) my brother in law (Jared Kushner) and me. 725 Fifth Ave 25th floor.

Trump Jr sent an email (a communication) to provide instructions on when and where to meet (a solicitation under the act) for foreign nationals to donate "Political Opposition Research" including "some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary" (a thing of value) to "the Trump campaign"

Trump Jr also forwarded the whole email chain to Kushner and Manafort prior to the meeting, which they MUST have read to discover the time and place of the meeting, and which they attended.

>B-but "muh information" isn't a thing of value!!!!

The Federal Election Committee already ruled (http://saos.fec.gov/aodocs/2007-22.pdf) in an advisory opinion that the provision even of "printed materials" of "nominal value" by foreign nationals would violate the act.

>>133625050
Actually, you haven't done anything illegal.

>>133665082
>The documents were physically present at the meeting

Yes, to pass along information... Unless you are saying they were delivering free print ups of the files to disperse?

I don't care about the rest of what you posted. You've been posting it for days and haven't shown it to relate to this case.

>>133617611
> muh russians says increasingly nervous leftist for the billionth time this year

I'm happy Trump Jr is forging ties with based Russia.

>>133665155
Printed brochures. Like glossy election pamphlets that actually have some printing cost.

Some woman's typed up documents about what she thinks is damning evidence has no value.
Where he goes really wrong though is him admitting that he asked for any 'supporting evidence' etc. to back it up.

>>133665082
>>133665155
You're giving me russia fatigue. This is such a minor quibble. The worst that could happen to Jr at this point is he gets fined.

The fact that JR was played (and the whole meeting was probably coordinated by obama's henchmen) indicates there is no deeper collusion at play, and he is simply a political ingenue.

But go ahead. Blow your wad on this story. Everyone I know is sick of it though, and this latest installment is even less interesting than anything that came before it.

>>133665783
>>133665813
Political campaigns pay for political opposition research all the time, and the physical presence of the printed materials at that meeting confirms not only that they were solicited but that they were received.

The key thrust of the FEC's ruling was that "Although the value of these materials may be nominal or difficult to ascertain, they have some value. The provision of these items without charge would relieve your campaign of the expense that it would otherwise incur to obtain such materials."

Since the donation of political opposition research would relieve the Trump campaign of the expense of paying for it to be generated and collected it is clearly covered by this advisory opinion and thus prohibited by the act.

>>133666048
Thank's for admitting he's obviously guilty of violating campaign finance laws. I appreciate it.

>>133666127
It only matters if the "opposition research" has any real value, or if it's a bunch of made up BS and rumors. Made up BS and rumors has no value, or maybe you think it does.

>>133666201
I'm sure you realize this isn't going to be prosecuted and nothing's going to happen

you're also clearly not a lawyer and have no fucking idea what you're talking about, you just started searching all the relevant FEC statutes to try to find words that proved your biases

regardless, it doesn't matter in the slightest - FBI investigation since October and they've got nothing