What stopped Mosley from seizing power?

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beady eyes

>>133605379
Strong tradition of classical britbongi liberalism

>>133605379
We don't really hear about him. I only found out about him a few months ago when I saw his photo on this site.
Otherwise, he is a forgotten part of history.

Kikes, duh

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He was arrested and the party banned.

Name one thing the brits did collectively in the history of humanity that wasn't retarded

/thread

He was irrelevant since his country was a victor in WW1 and didn't get cheated like Italy

>>133605473
This. It's also worth noting that his peace movement was growing (he demanded a referendum on the war) and was supported in secret by many high-ranking members of the military, and by some of the aristocratic class.

he got banned from twitter and shadowbanned on reddit. Not enough reach.

>>133605460
And that's why you're in the condition that you're in.

>>133605379
I believe British were trying to be "progressive" and "inclusive" even back then. Not sure why. I can only wonder who was responsible.

Also this >>133605473. Not sure there was anything that could have been done differently. Similar to Romania when Codreanu was assassinated in the 30's before his rise to power. There were certainly followings for both movements..

>>133605619
Not really true. A French diplomat observed that, due to the decimation of our aristocratic class in the Great War, that it was like he had lost such was the damage to our cultural bedrock. The shock of WW2 in Britain is what drove both Mosley and Pound to fascism, even though they're of countries that technically won the war.

>>133605670
Few excerpts from the Wiki that found your point.

> John Gunther described Mosley in 1936 as "strikingly handsome ... probably the best orator in England. His personal magnetism is very great".[25] Among Mosley's supporters at this time were the novelist Henry Williamson, military theorist J. F. C. Fuller and the future "Lord Haw Haw", William Joyce.

> At one of his New Party meetings in Leicester in April 1935, he stated, "For the first time I openly and publicly challenge the Jewish interests of this country, commanding commerce, commanding the Press, commanding the cinema, dominating the City of London, killing industry with their sweat-shops. These great interests are not intimidating, and will not intimidate, the Fascist movement of the modern age." [27] The party was unable to fight the 1935 general election.

>>133605670
The Focus Group played a part

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9nteHa8KoU

http://en.rightpedia.info/w/The_Focus_Group

>>133605952
It's also worth noting that he wasn't imprisoned, but rather interned without trial.

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He loved his people and wanted peace and wasn't an anti-Semite contrary to popular belief.

After the war he was completely discredited and fled the country. He has been completely buried as a political figure ever since he was shut down and is definitely one of the most interesting political figures in our recent history.

I think a lot of normies could warm to his speeches. He doesn't have the stigma of Hitler and speaks in English.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vMypCinkRk&t

>>133606274
>wasn't an anti-Semite contrary to popular belief.

DROPPED

>>133606246
Yes, he and his wife and others. I believe initially he was put in some sort of prison separated by his wife. Then eventually allowed to be interned with his wife. Can't really do shit when the powers that be shut down a movement as it's gaining ground.

>>133606274
His speech against globalism is perhaps the best entrance to him for normies.

>>133606352

Not anti-Semitic in the sense he was greatly aware of Jewish influence and involvement in WW2 and tried to stop it but didn't hate all Jews on account of their race alone.

>>133606408
His (I think eldest) son actually died earlier this year, in February.
There are books written by him on his father.

>>133606008
Every country between WW1 and WW2 aside from the USSR had a fascist party trying to take power. The difference is that grievances in the UK from WW1 weren't as strong as they were in Italy or Germany. Liberal democratic establishments only turn to fascism as a last resort, and Britain didn't have Communists throwing hand grenades in the street.

>>133606557

Quote from him.
"For the first time I openly and publicly challenge the Jewish interests of this country, commanding commerce, commanding the Press, commanding the cinema, dominating the City of London, killing industry with their sweat-shops. These great interests are not intimidating, and will not intimidate, the Fascist movement of the modern age."

>>133605952
>ywn live in the timeline where Mosley was elected and Codreanu didn't get murdered
fuck this gay earth

>>133605460
Damn i just read the wikipedia article about him.
Such a shame what happened, imagine if britain and germany would have allied up.

>>133606557
I doubt many people here hate the niggers, mudslimes and kikes on the basis of their skin. It's deeper than that.

>>133606630
But these same interests are what shot him down. He underestimated the jew and he paid for it. I still like him though.

>>133607048
It would've been an extremely militarily powerful force.
Like, I can't even imagine.

>>133607096
I'd not know enough about his life to say what ended him for certain.

>>133607048
Hess' story shows how close that was to happening.

>>133606580
Would be cool to learn more about him, and others like him.

>>133606789
Iktf, anon. Hitler too. No trans/gay bullshit, niggers/spics on welfare, poos , chinks, & shitskins infesting our communities and corporations. No housing, student loan, and all the other economic crises going on. Well fuck maybe one day the movement they created will grow again.

>>133605379
Watch the David Frost interview from the 1960s.
Listen to what Mosley has to say, then spot the two interjectors who insist he's antisemite.
(((Shouldn't be hard to figure out.)))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPB1jy4vmFA

Incredible speech.

>>133607431
All that needed to happen was Lindbergh to keep America out of the war entirely, both in terms of supply and men.

>>133607590

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fng3Vdte7mw

>>133607431

Learning about him is easy, as despite his views, he is not really a controversial figure.
Here is his author amazon page: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oswald-Mosley/e/B00287UZ0I/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_9?qid=1500033104&sr=8-9

Book titles include:
> Fascism: 100 questions asked and answered.
> My Life, by Osward Mosley.
> The Greater Britain.

Those are all I can really find.

>>133607239
Yeah.
If Hitler also would not have persecuted Slavic people like he did, and perhabs even made peace with the poles or an allignment, we would have been unstoppable.

That is the thing i liked the least about him, his stupid disdain for the Slavs, they are brothers just like the other europeans.

But yeah, our 2 back then major world powers united would have been unstoppable.
The neither the commies nor the-soon-after degenerated americans would have been able to stop us.

>>133607715
Pan-Europeanism wasn't really a thing until a while after the war.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rd7LcaXZzUs

This is the interview I mentioned.

>>133607715
Well you have to remember it was a European struggle. In our more global world now, the differences between cultures are more apparent. But back then? The British and German way would have seemed way more distant I imagine.
So, the same would apply to the slavs and Germanics, two completely different places and peoples.

That was then though. As an analogy, the colours red and orange look very different from each other when just singled out. But when looked alongside the entire colour spectrum, they're more similar than they would realise.

Some things have progressed and been enlightened, some have not.

>>133605473
Did (((they))) have something to do with it?

>>133607715
this
I can get behind every other fascist leader, but I think Hitler went too far and too quickly. His (probably Rosenberg's, but Hitler still listened) ridiculous focus on eliminating the population of the Soviet Union before the war was over fucked up so much. Millions of Soviet PoWs and millions of Ukrainian and Belarussian civilians could have been recruited to fight for Germany against Bolshevism, but they all ended up in the ground instead

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Fascism is inherently un-British.

>>133608165
Nobody here is denying our liberal tradition :)

>>133608165
So is importing shitskins and chinks but I dont see fascism advocating for that

>>133605379
He was only a minor political figure and the Germans did start bombing British cities instead of military bases.
Had Hitler given an official appology to the civilians and promised paying reparations this Mosely guy would have won some popularity.

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>>133608165
One of our oldest edicts is that every man should be a heavily armed soldier for the Crown and nation.

The fyrd is an inherently fascist concept.

>>133605424
wH*te dog

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>>133605424

stop being beadyphobic

>>133608019
Yep.
I mean it's not like the citizens of the Soviet Union liket living there.
Also nit only that, exterminating european brothers was retarded anyways.

He also should have tried to avoid war with the Union as long as possible.
Yes, it was unavoidable because the Soviets would have attacked sooner or later anyways, but he should have delayed it.


Imagine this:
Hitler forces Poland to ally with the germans instead of conquering them entirely.
Germany and Britain becime allies too, france stays occupied but is not terrorized and we accepted french volunteers too.

Together with the industrial capacities, scientists, recources, and men and might of such an allignment, we would have been unstoppable.

Well, now it's easy to say such things, sadly shit was different back then and now we are stuck in shit to the neck all together.

>>133608509
Beady master race

>>133608229
>Moseley was different!
No. Fascism is fascism is fascism.
>>133608334
>>133608404
really gets your noggin cloggin

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>>133605460

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Victor Rothschild shut him down just like he helped inflate Winston Churchill to power and turn him into a Jewish sockpuppet

I should really do a Knowledge Bomb thread on him

>>133607431
>maybe one day the movement they created will grow again.
So long as men dare to speak the truth and stand up to the insanity being forced upon society, the movement will live and thrive. That's why (((they))) are so panicked about a resurgence of Fascism.
Think of it like a bed of smoldering coals. All you need is a little bit of fuel and the fire roars back to life.

>>133608615
Where in this thread have I stated I suppose fascism? Or Mosley?
And where have I said Mosley was 'different'?

I've just stated facts about his life, and said we in this country have a liberal tradition, which no one in this threat denies.

That's a bad strawman you're trying to make there lad. I'm not a fascist xD

>>133609015
into the blood refineries he goes

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because this fat cunt and his jewish friends decided that Mosley was a danger for their zionist plans

>>133608165

You say that like British police and military forces aren't PROPERTY of the crown who don't swear fealty to the people and like the fuzz haven't openly and publicly threatened citizens who criticize govt policy with "We're coming for you." and "If you say racist things online expect a knock on the door from us."

>>133605379
The lust for aryan blood was too strong

>>133607048
Hitler hated Mosley though

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>>133609108

>>133606591
Communists were throwing hand grenades in the streets in the Weimar Republic? How did they keep getting away with it up until Hitler?

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>>133609161
America does it again.

>>133609138

Any sources or exposition or are you telling (((porkies)))?

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>>133609161

>>133608404
>This guy gets it.

>>133609509
Hitler, and Goring, attended Mosley's wedding in Germany.
He's probably just spinning a yarn mate.

>>133605379
britons are cucks for big government, but only if that big government entails a german king or queen sitting on their throne.

>>133605379

Everything about British so-called "Fascism" was foreign: the hymn was German (Horst Wessel with English lyrics), the Uniform Italian (Blackshirts): Mosley as nothing more than an upper class playboy, and unfit to actually be a Fascist leader - he was only interested in his giant ego, and duped a load of working class lads from the East End to follow him.

There's even enough evidence to suggest that he was merely an establishment plant - all the other Fascist leaders had humble beginnings, ours was born with a silver spoon in his mouth (who jumped from all over the place politically, from conservative to socialist, from socialist to Fascist) - he was only interested in his own vain ego.

>>133605379
Got b&

>>133609765

Thanks. I'll have to add the Mosleys to my reading list.

>>133605379
He basically loved the balls out of facism, then some facists blitzed London.

>>133610051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNhF28fzN9I
Watch this first, and then I'd recommend buying his autobiography, 'My Life', you can get it pretty easy on Amazing for a tenner.

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>>133605460
>Like this motherfucker in the anals of History

>>133610114
UK attacked first though.

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>>133608541
Poland would have never have allied with Germany; They hated Germans. One of the main reasons Germany invaded Poland was because the polish people were slaughtering ethnic Germans.
https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/wrsynopsis.html

>>133610051

Check my post m80
>>133607666

>>133609263
Do you not know about the German revolution of 1918? The communists started a civil war in Germany after WW1.

>>133609765
Don't forget it was held at Goebbels' home as well. His wife was a National Socialist.

>>133608404
Adding on to this.

Many of our great times in history, the economic policies and societal structures of those times would now be considered fascism.

Modern liberalism has managed to convince people that Britain was always ooh cups of tea m'am and complaining about the weather. Not true.
Up until the 50s that wasn't how British culture was.

Read founding documents of our country, and you will see.

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>>133607715
It was a different time back then. Hitler didn't have the perspective of things like we have now. In hindsight I think he wouldn't have attacked Poland and would have made an alliance against the Soviet Union, if he knew the gravity of the situation.

>>133610693
'Gravity of the situation'
You sly dog.

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>>133609263
The Weimar government was ineffective and at one point there were 30+ parties trying to gain power.
Berlin was a communist stronghold and also the sin capital of Europe.

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>>133609138
Total bullshit. Mosley was friends with Goebbels, and openly modeled his fascist movement as a British variant of National Socialism, though also being heavily influenced and inspired by Mussolini's Italy.

Hitler shagged Mosley's sister-in-law, who made a pilgramage to Germany to become a dyed in the wool national socialist. Both her and her sister (Mosley's wife) never gave up their convictions, even after the end of the war and Mosley's death.

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I wish there was more footage of Mosley out there. I find his speeches and interviews interesting.

There are small segments of clips I don't recognise in various recent press videos. It turns out he did a lot of television appearances and interviews before and after the war. Most of it is held in collection.

>>133610693
Apparantly people don't have the perspective of what it was like back then. He wanted to put aside the differences of their people and acknowledge their borders in exchange for a highway and railway to East Prussia, which was German territory.
Read the link here
>>133610397

>>133610693
There was some pasta going around of Hitler's relations with Poland in the 1920s and early 1930s.
Allegedly he wanted an alliance with them, so help each other against the Soviets, and was well on his way to securing it.
The Polish guy was replaced however by a puppet who refused to negotiate with him and allied the British and the French.
Knowing that the Soviets were going to be a threat, he thus had no choice but to settle the non-aggression Treaty with them and after the Poles genocided all Germans in Danzig, liberated as much of Poland as they could.

>>133605379
>What stopped Mosley from seizing power?
He and all his affiliates got arrested for their political views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fng3Vdte7mw

look how they made fun of an old man

>>133609909
Everything about British so-called "Monarchism" was foreign: the hymn was Jacobite (popular with the Scots and English papist scum after the landing of Charles Edward Stuart), the Uniform originated in Flanders (Lord Wentworth's Regiment): George I as nothing more than an upper class playboy, and unfit to actually be a king of Britain - he was only interested in his mistresses, and duped a load of upper class lads from the City to follow him.

There's even enough evidence to suggest that he was merely an establishment plant - all the other British leaders had elite beginnings, ours was born with a silver spoon up his arse (who jumped from all over the place politically, from Jacobite, to Tory, from Catholic to Protestant) - he was only interested in his own vain ego.

>>133610242

Thanks. The difference between British access/knowledge and Ausie access/knowledge to this stuff is crazy. I only found The Longest Hatred: Anti-Gentilism on an Ausie website because owning a copy got some WS locked up for two years over here.

>>133610470

Already opened tabs m8. Thanks.

>>133609108
Would Mosley of actually been good for British culture though? Was he actually our guy?

>>133610886
Might be worth it to put that stuff online

>>133609909
Mussolini made the same jump from Socialist to Fascist.
And do you really doubt he was genuine? Why would a rich, connected, intelligent person choose to stay with fascism when he could easily have served himself better by staying with Labor or Conservatives? He took his fascism to his grave, effectively exiled from his homeland.

>>133611747
Mosley was no doubt a progressive in the sense that modern technology could revolutionize British society, he was a socialist in the non-cucked sense of the word.
There would have been no restoration of monarchy, but you can be sure that your country would not have been sold to my country in order to satiate Churchills ARYAN bloodlust

>>133611883
Yeah. Oswald was a true believer, he had skin in the game. He was well liked by both conservatives and socialists, and might have been prime minister as leader of either the conservatives or labour.

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>>133605424

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>>133611713
Britannia doesn't need to hide her past from her colonies, only from her citizens.

There's a lot of aussies who are decently redpilled, outside of Melbourne and Sydney, so you'll find quite a few of us have some good know how.
Also, someone else mentioned Mosley's other two books, Greater Britain and Fascism: 100 Questions, you can get these on Amazon too.
He also has a few documentaries on youtube, the two I recall are Europeans and Multiculturalism.

Centuries of freedom since magna carta,fuck mosley

>>133612455
>>133612455
What freedom would Mosley have taken away from the British people? The freedom to fight and die in a second world war? The freedom to see the British empire be reduced to dust? The freedom to see its cities filled with hostile invaders?

>>133605379
He spent too much time on intellectual fine points. Voters are retards you have to make them feel. Mosley was trying to make them think

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>>133605379
He tried staying neutral on the jewish question.
He didnt have the catholic pedigree or loyalty to rome like hitler and mussolini.

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>>133607988
>88

Fuck

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>>133611747
Moseley would of been great for england.

>>133612707
We don't like licking german balls like you do, that's why we left the EU

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mfw you make a friend irl who secretly loves Mosley

>>133613291
>We don't like licking german balls like you do, that's why we left the EU

I'm pretty sure your grandparents would have preferred to stay out of the war. You really drank the Kool Aid when it comes to believing that Mosley was some kind of a Nazi puppet.

>>133610483
What there was a revolution in 1918 by gommies in krautland? That must of put the fear of god into the Germans and made them vote Hitler

>>133605379
>brown eyes

He wasn't white, for a start.

>>133608933
Please do.

I really like Mosley. One of my favourite speeches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z9A-_M_frc

He knew of (((their))) plan long ago.

>>133608933
Please do. And post link to it here.

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>>133611231
>old man watches himself full of hope in his youth
>remembering the glorious future his country and children had in his imagination
>feel the pain of watching his nation descend into self-inflicted madness

HAHAHAHAHAH THIS OLD GUY CARES ABOUT HIS NATION. Judaism is a hell of a drug.

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>>133611231
Do modern Spanish people insult Francisco Franco or is he still revered? Would people act positively or negatively If you flew this and they knew what it was?

>>133615911
Not to mention all the friends he lost in the First World War, which drove him to politics in the first place

>>133616299
His generation were the last generation of actual redpilled British men

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>>133616299
This is why we're smug. So we don't cry.

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>>133616235
>Francisco Franco
Pleb tier
>José Antonio Primo de Rivera
God tier
https://youtu.be/vhfZOH7pmEw

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>be Churchill
>fighting for freedom from fascism
>arrest your political opponents
>mfw