Musk begs for government gibs for Mars rocket

That article says none of those things...

>>133599526
of course not
the author has a massive hard-on for Elon Musk so of course he gives a positive spin

>>133599260
Why use your own money when you can get other people to pay for your stuff

>be elon musk
>be on government science commission.
>"i'm going to cut ties with the government and leave because gonald glumpf and muh signaling to irrelevant libtards"
>c-can i have please have more money mister goverment? i'm broke and i need more :(( pretty please"

Never mind the fact that his tesla operation is not profitable and is only running because of gubberment gibs

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>>133600637
>mfw burgers are taking in the refugees that sailed to Australia AND paying for a Tesla battery to be built in South Australia
How cucked can you get?

I always knew he was a meme. His shitty companies are only afloat because of the taxpayer. He's a scammer.

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>>133600772
mfw Musk takes over 100 days so the burgers give it to us for free

I get slightly triggered whenever people pretend that he's some kind of scientific genius.

He's a speculator. He gives money to actually smart people to do shit for him, but he does not have the scientific background to tell if they are saying the truth or expertly bullshitting him.
And since he goes for more than just ambitious projects, it's only a matter of time till one of them crashes and burns because he believed the wrong person.

>>133600772
everything is so upside down in australia that you can have cake and eat it too

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>>133600953
Burgers don't really have a great track record of keeping their 100 day promises these days so it's quite likely.

>>133599260
Ask your fiancé for a loan of Depp's money you fucking choade.

>>133600108
all his money is from other people investing into his stuff

>>133601141
pretty much all of his projects burn.

solar city.
tesla.
space x.

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>>133599260
Inb4 she takes it all in a divorce

>>133599260
Mars is stupid and useless.

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>>133603454
he can't resist good quality succubus pussy

>>133599260
he takes working people's money of taxes using subsidies
he makes this aura about him being genius and shit
same working people invest in his companies
stock prices become higher
profit without doing actual work


isn't this what America is all about in the last 200 years?

I don't care who he scams as long as he speeds up colonizing space.

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>>133603454
>>133603748
fuck i hate this gold digger

>>133599260
Better throw money at nasa right hahaah they're nowadays over 90% womyn and poos no wonder nasa get nothing done since decades
Meanwhile spacex is almost 100% european and they're getting shit done every week

>>133599260
He is pretty bssed for an african-american
I dislike state budget gibstaking but until the state fails you'd be a fool not to take however much you can

>>133604100
actually nasa is like 95% white

t. did co-op for nasa

>>133599260
10 billion dollars is not much money lmao, nasa already wasted 10 billion in a shit rocket that can not be reused and will cost much more, dunno what's the problem, seems like good investment

>>133601141
Blame leftists.

They tried to look for a Steve Jobs 2.0 except unlike Elon Musk, Steve Jobs never claimed to be an expert in every STEM field and Steve Jobs would get super pissed if you asked him retarded shit.

Musk on the other hand gladly says any kind of bullshit to the press and continues to entertain retarded questions by giving equally retarded questions as well.

He also pretends he's doing something amazing all the time by taking ideas from science fiction movies like Matrix and says it's possible while at the same time claiming our reality is a stimulation and global warming is real.

>>133604200
Doesn't do anything for his birthplace so how is he based. His homeland is a complete shithole and he ran away from that shithole without doing anything to fix it.

>>133604200
Anything given away freely can also be taken away freely.

I hope Trump sees how much of a con artist Musk is and pulls his funding.

Steve Jobs did not need a handout as well as many other wealthy people.

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>muh Mars

Oh boy, this meme again. He's not going to get anyone to Mars. If he did they would die. He will be dead long before minerals are extracted from Mars. At the same time, it detracts from fact that none if his real businesses make any money.

https://www.seeker.com/space/exploration/mars-astronauts-face-double-the-cancer-risk-as-previously-estimated-says-study

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jul/06/mars-covered-in-toxic-chemicals-that-can-wipe-out-living-organisms-tests-reveal

OOPS MARS IS A LITERAL HELLHOLE

>>133607442
Don't give them traffic
>https://theguardian com/science/2017/jul/06/mars-covered-in-toxic-chemicals-that-can-wipe-out-living-organisms-tests-reveal
https://archive.is/WvvgZ

>>133607475

thank you based Norwaybot

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>>133607442

>>133599260
can't wait for this musk faggot to crash and burn. amazing that people trust billions of dollars to a batshit insane drug addict. If this dude was walking around on the street doing what he does he would be arrested and put on psych hold.

>>133601141
He still has qualfications and understanding in STEM, however it's true he isn't even remotely close from Von Braun who he parrots a lot but I doubt his engineer can bullshit him that much

x.com

>>133599260

Archive it you cunt

>>133609747
well yeah he has a bachelor in physics.

>>133602765
So where were your millions when you got shat out of a Vagina?

Look at these autismo virgins burn with hate that a liberal is far more successful than their failed genes will ever produce.

>>133607442
Space travel is so fucking pointless.

>>133610266
it's not money he made from functioning businesses. so it's not like he doesn't want to use money he worked hard for himself; instead he doesn't want to use funds he already pocketed.

>>133599260
muh free market.

All important modern techonologies that we have today have been heavily funded by goverments.

examples:>the internet
>the basics of the iphone like the touchscreen


This is not a praise for big gubermand like most burgers would believe but a downplay of the importance of profit.

(((monetary profit))) is not a good incentive for technological and scientific advancements and never was.

that's literally how Musk runs his businesses

he creates a trillion companies, all with outlandish scifi tech goals, then goes to the government for handouts

99.99% of his companies fail, but he just declares bankruptcy for those and pockets the funds

>>133610479
>elon musk is a liberal

>>133610266
>>133610479

>Someone insulted my based reddit le epic i fucking love science man!

what a cuck

>>133610843
not entirely true, things like the PC and miniaturization of the computer chip are because of private market competition

look at the competition between AMD and NVidia or AMD and Intel and how they keep trying to one-up one another

>>133607442
This. Space shills btfo.

>>133599260
musk is fucking scum

>>133609747
>Von Braun
He is not even close to Steve Jobs. Who was literal snake oil salesman.

>>133600637
>Government funds self-driving cars
>This is somehow a bad thing

I don't like the idea of governments having much of a funding budget at all to begin with, but part of the reason for that is because they usually fund irrelevant shit like paying rent for people who don't work for years on end or for building mosques or theatres or whatever. They're funding something good for once, so I'm okay with that.

>>133601141
>it's only a matter of time till one of them crashes and burns
thats happened a few times already actually

>>133599260
This is how American capitalism works. You either are successful and suck off the government or you're a failure and get run over by those sucking off the government.

>>133610708
Know before you talk, asshole. He used all of his paypal money to get tesla and spacex trough hard times.

>>133604704
And 95% axe wound.

Oh and muslim.

>>133611263
(((Intel)))

Intel would be dead without a government-protected monopoly. Nvidia only wins because they market to retards about as well as Apple does.

>>133599260
Better Musk receive corporate welfare then Boeing/Lockheed's ULA. At least Musk with his recoverable first stage rockets, and relaunches is pitching us forward in time.

>>133610521
Ah yes, I'm sure you'll be saying this as the asteroid comes into orbit and we're told we only have a few years to live before it comes crashing down, destroying us all. Do you honestly believe this? Any number of things can happen in space that will kill every single human being on the planet.

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>>133599260

I like how you fail to mention that literally every launch company/aerospace company/etc uses government subsidies.

Why are you people so retarded? Sure some of his ideas are a little pie-in-the-sky, but at least the man tries new shit and dreams bigger things.

Telsa is a joke though.

>>133599260
Absolute bullshit. Space isn't what they tell us it is. Research flat earth by first listening to 200 flat earth proof by Eric dubay on YouTube.

This is just another scam to take our money.

>>133613303
OP is just baiting. They are not out of money, just want more.

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>>133612101

>Government funds self-driving cars
>This is somehow a bad thing

Yes you bluepilled silly billy. Personalized Mass Transit (aka a car that you can't really drive) has been a wet dream of UN social engineers for more than half a century now. You think you're going to be mad comfy, but your car will only drive you from your trendy (((tiny house))) cuckshed to your cubicle job with one allowed trip to the Megaplex on the weekend, while driving around the privatized national parks where the elite will build their pleasure domes like the House Absolute in Gene Wolfe's books.

TINY HOUSING AND SELF DRIVING CARS IS AGENDA 21

>>133613478
Don't forget that self driving cars = self driving murder mobiles. The government will kill off anti-government activists like Michael Hastings.

>>133602918
>tesla
I get so fucking triggered seeing all those charging stations all over my fucking city when I've only ever seem them used maybe twice over the last year or so. Doubly so considering these retarded vanity projects are at least partially funded by taxpayer gibs

>>133613637

>I get so fucking triggered seeing all those charging stations all over my fucking city when I've only ever seem them used maybe twice over the last year or so.

Professor Dan Rubius discovered their true purpose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei0YIaIhTkU

>>133602918
Then he should work on new bomb technologies i guess..

>>133599260
>Mars

This is how you know he's a conman not a businessman. If this was about business he'd be getting into Asteroid mining.

>>133612319
yeah and guess where that money came from? It came from promising people that "X.com" will be "the future of internet payments".

>>133614070
this, there are enough resources in 1 medium sized asteroid to supply us with enough metal to crash the entire market.

>>133613637
Tesla has paid all their government loans back though, and some even early I think. The same can't be said of all car-makers if I recall correctly.

>>133614070
This

>>133614754

Perhaps that why the metallic Jews aren't excatly keen on doing it.

>>133599260
Let us do it. Let us hand the Musk 10 billion and get our ass to Mars!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91dW9pUA1BI

>>133614070

I'm not sure about that. I think it's just his life's dream to actually die on Mars and he's committed to it. Even if it takes dozens of people dying paving the way for him to die there. I think that's his endgame and all he really cares about.

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4chan is incredibly ignorant with based INTJ Musk. The guy has over 150 IQ, who are yall calling a brainlet? Nust absolute jealousy and retardation ITT

>>133614092
They're no cryptocurrency, but Paypal is much more successful today than back then.

>>133599260
he can ask bezos for a loan

>>133616103
>They're no cryptocurrency, but Paypal is much more successful today than back then.

Yeah, Musk used the money he got to be a shareholder in Confinity today known as paypal. This was a good investment.

>>133599260
Shithead liberal con artist kike wants $10 billion shekels from the shabbos goy? Wow, how surprising!

>>133612101
>(((self-driving cars))) are a good thing!
>that flag

>>133599260

I love when people tote "muh spacex" as a success story for private industry space exploration and why we don't need governments to explore space, I keep telling people that governments are the only market for space exploration because we can't make a direct profit from it yet.. but nope "muh spacex" "muh free market" yeah spacex has been making most of its money from government contracts and they're drying up because Trump doesn't believe in space or some shit.

Fuck space shit. We have no business doing space shit til we fix the human race. Fuck Elon Musk.

>>133603643

Mars is a training ground for learning the techniques we will need to teraform other planets. Which is something we absolutely must learn to do, or we will go extinct, guaranteed. Space colonization is the only way our species goes on indefinitely.

Being a good investor is not the same as being a good scientist. The fact is all of his businesses get billions in government tax breaks and subsidies. He is the opposite of a free marketer

>>133616658

we're never going to "fix" the human race. There are 2 options:

Learn to teraform and colonize multiple worlds
or
go extinct, whether its an impact event, environmental catastrophe, nuclear war, or simply riding out time until the sun goes red giant this planet will not sustain us forever

>>133616732
It's clear you don't know what you're talking about. I'd suggest you watch this video to just truly understand how difficult terraforming a planet is, and why would we live in orbital space stations far earlier than on Mars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikoNQNj9ZnU

>>133617128

zero G fucks up your body in extended periods in space, and all theoretical simulated gravity techniques haven't been even tried yet so we don't know if they'll work for staving off atrophy, and you can't harvest natural resources like the minerals you need for hydroponics to grow food on an orbital station. Teraforming is an absolute must or we will all die. We might make it all 5 billion years before our sun runs out of fuel by some miracle who knows, but we still all die when the sun begins to grow in size and boils all the water into vapor.

>>133599260
He's a leftist con man. HE's the modern day snake oil salesman.

>divorced and then married same woman twice
>she took bigger cut second time
>dates amber heard
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA EL JUSTO INCOMING

>>133600637

yep mr "i didn't even want gov money"

>>133599689

"commercialize" is newspeak for subsidize?!

"uh hello, my name is jeff musk, I respect whamen, please give me $10,000,000,000 so I can corner the market on space, like how gov subs opened up to help me get a foothold in ecars"
TAX SUBSIDIES ARE JUST ANOTHER FORM OF REDISTRIBUTION
OH BUT MUH TREES
MUH TREES NOTHING NIGGER
THIS IS DOUBLE TAXATION
I AM WORKING TO COMPETE AGAINST THIS FAGGOT SOMEDAY SOON, BUT MY TAXES ARE GOING TO HELP HIS BUSINESS!!
WTFFFFFFFFFFF
DOUBLE
TAXATION!

>>133618053

I like this guy.

>>133617627
https://youtu.be/IizCycLgPBM?t=1m41s

>>133605671

He should start a patreon and have his wife talk about how Depp made her a victim, he'll get the money fast.

>>133617699

seriously if you're that rich, don't get married, just pay a woman to be a surrogate mother, and give you full custody of the children.

>>133618053
dear gov please pay me $10,000 in tax creds for every fidget spinner I sell, I am going to be the elon musk of fidget spinners

>>133599260
Musk is a fraud.

>>133599260
Again?

>>133612299
And this isn't capitalism. Which is exactly the problem.

>>133617530
You don't know what you're talking about.I'd highly suggest you watch some videos on the YouTube channel I linked to educate yourself. He goes into quite a good amount of detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THqtAQOicQI

>>133601141
jesus christ, are you autistic?

who the fuck ever said it was his job to build shit? he builds companies, you fucking retard. No one ever expects the CEO of a fucking company to get down in the dirt and help make a god-damn electric car or rocket. He just signs off on shit. Have any of you stupid fuckers entered the workforce ever?

>>133599260
SpaceX is doing fine with the satellite business but no private company or private citizen could fund a Mars rocket on their own

>>133618246
>builds fast, soon to be affordable electric cars
>people actually own these and are satisfied with them
>"Musk is a fraud!"

Where were you when the_donald tried to keep the white man down?

>>133599526
FPBP
sage

tldr: spacex is seeking partnerships with NASA and COTS solutions. this is not begging for money, it's called cooperation.

>>133599260
Musk is the biggest Welfare Queen on earth.
Which makes sense since he's an African American.

>>133601141
You seem to think he's trusting one person at a time. He can reduce the chances of fraud by casting a broad net.

>>133618756
I always loved fucking with Boer refugees here in the states by calling them African Americans

>>133618329
>No one ever expects the CEO of a fucking company to get down in the dirt and help make a god-damn electric car or rocket.

Surprisingly, Musk actually does though, as he has experience and knowledge with engineering and rocket science. He used to sleep on the floor at Tesla to prove to the engineers whining that they were being overworked that they were bitch made (though the story could have been fake news. Either way he's a hard worker, and a real Ubermensch)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU7FuAswPW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU7FuAswPW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU7FuAswPW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU7FuAswPW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU7FuAswPW0


DAILY REMINDER

>>133613032

Intel no longer is the king. Have you seen the pc cpu lineups in the past 6 months?

Not to mention look at the stock of AMD up from a couple of a dollars to over 100. Intel is no longer the monolith it was. AMD/Nvidia are where all the money is right now thanks to bitcoin and computational cards for design/engineering/simulation.

Just bought a I7700k I should of got the ryzen.

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>>133616763
>The fact is all of his businesses get billions in government tax breaks and subsidies
I hate this meme. SpaceX gets money from contracts, ie. the contractor pays them to render a service, whether that be NASA or a commercial satellite operator. The development of Falcon 9 was also bound by contracts, they could only get more money by completing milestones and reviews to show that their shit actually works. Also if you read the article, it shows that NASA would have spend somewhere between 4 and 10 times as much had they developed a similar rocket themselves, with the higher figure still being a quarter more than they are now planning on spending to make SpaceX develop a human-rated ISS resupply capsule under the same milestone-based system (and by the way, Boeing is getting more money). Tesla got a $500M loan from the government, which they paid back early and with $12M interest. As my pic shows, Ford got much more from that program, not to mention that since the money gets paid back, the government doesn't actually lose money in absolute terms (except for Fisker, which went bankrupt and couldn't repay the whole loan). Otherwise, Tesla uses ZEV credits, which are also available to all automakers so that isn't really a Tesla-specific issue. And I'm pretty sure that tax breaks for building factories (and the accompanying infrastructure as well as creating jobs) is also a fairly common thing.

>>133619524

BASED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBfs14p0COY

what is that x.com website about?

>>133618663
>this is not begging for money, it's called cooperation.
is that why his plans wouldnt work unless he got gibs? hes not cooperating willingly its only because he NEEDS to.

>>133619668
That ATVM pic is great. Tesla paid off their gov loan 9 times faster than it was due meaning the gov profitted off of it, but pol faggots will never tell you this

>>133599260
Does his bitch girlfriend need another gold plated tampon carried to her by a dozen African war slave virgin men again?

>>133620040
>inb4 zerohedge
The data sources still stand, and prove that Tesla is an overbloated experiment that is not sustainable and will not be sustainable for many years to come

Everyone shilling for
>muh big oil gets subsidies
forgets that big oil or any big investors for that matter is not full of idiots and if they would see Tesla and electrics in general a worthwhile investment, they would pour they money in a generally open market, hoping for profit in the long run or "when the fossils run out"

But all the conceptions are false and the Musk mememobile is just a big gibmachine born out of a fantasy and driven by hip millenials

>>133600772
Gallipoli

>>133620475
>inb4 zerohedge (in response to my factual smallpost)

What do you mean by this? Source in particular? I own TSLA stock as a disclaimer so I'm not going to argye with you, but fuck off oil shill. Ubermensch companies coming through

>>133602918
Paypal is good

>>133613165
So what? Mankind would extinct and that's it. Earth wouldn't take long to recover. All species die. I don't get why human species would be different and eternal.

>>133613165
Humans don't deserve to exist. How does it feel to be such a pussy that you are afraid of hypothetical scenarios?

>>133620688
A typical leddit libshit, not surprised here, just how fucked your reading comprehension is? Can't see any data with sources in the graphs that show the utter failure of the musk gibmachine? Really sad

also
>muh stock
Proves my point even more

There are no heroes in the mainstream, all sides are controlled, stupid entry level ''redpilled'' plebs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSrLibaScfE

>>133620831
Don't forget paypal was mostly X PLUS Confinity and Greg Kouri

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he will colonize mars on 2020. he said so, so it must be true. he's scientist you know.

>>133621118
I voted for Trump faggot non-American. And I'm a classic liberal/libertarian. Your "data" is bullshit, just like zerohedge thinking FANG stocks have anything to do with cryptocurrency? Ha! Muh data, it's gonna implode! Please you don't know shit

Stay poor faggot europoor, kys in 10 years when everyone owns a Tesla, and kys next month after I've customized my based Model 3, get f'd

>>133599260
>Why does /pol/ still defend this guy as some sort of prophet?
we do?

>>133621346
Skipped to the part where he links Fanta, Orange space jumpsuits and Nazi germany

I was done, lol, baffling how such retards even exist, plus he already sounds paranoid and out of his mind

I hear he massively underpays his employees relative to other companies and expects his employees to work as hard as him (a billionaire with a huge stake in the success of his company). Imagine being a big enough cuck to work late into the evening seven days a week neglecting your wife and children to make a billionaire who made most of his fortune lobbying and taking huge subsidies for his shitty unprofitable meme companies even richer, so he can blow his money on another golddigger wife, because of the "prestige" of his brand. I bet he promises them priority on his fantasy mars trips. These idiots honestly believe we'll have a mars colony of a million people by the middle of the century.

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>>133599260
>implying there's anything better to spend those gubbermint gibs on
How's that war on poverty coming along, burger? What about the shitty engineers' tenure program you call a state space agency? At least SpaceX genuinely gets things done, if not on time.
>>133601141
The guy is obviously not a genius on the level of Hawking or Newton, but if you actually knew anything about his rise to fame, you'd know that he's no slouch. He made his first billions working with 1 partner from within a tiny office with PayPal. As an AnCap, I don't approve of govt. funding, but in today's mixed economy where it's basically impossible to build a large company honestly and without state support, he's the next best thing we have to a genuine Henry Ford-style hero-industrialist.

>>133621529
Huh, really refuted what I said and showed, oh wait, you just sperged out

And again, still proves that you're nothing but a libshit plebian who cannot even comprehend data graphs

How are you going to refute Tesla getting exposed with no gibs? you can't,again.

And hell, if you own Tesla stocks, then it's really no point arguing, because such retards shouldn't even be let near money

Get wrecked, low energy hippie

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>>133621544
you are a tier 1 pleb, coincidence theorist

>>133621905
So you're in stage 1 I presume?

>>133599260
>Why does /pol/ still defend this guy as some sort of prophet?
nice shilling
you know pol doesnt give a fuck about the rat

>>133599260
Because he gets the job done no matter what. Consistency and persistence make this man what he is in the eyes of most. It doesn't matter if he has to go to the government for some funding, as long as he gets us to the tiny red dot in the sky. This is a man who exudes manifest destiny, and that's why I personally admire him.

>>133599260
What is with African Americans and gibs?

>>133621585
being a con-artist is one of the best paid jobs in this day and age.

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>>133619554
>Hyperloop™
I got AnCap vibes from this, McColony on Mars when?

>>133614070
Mars serves as one corner of a trade triangle with the Asteroid Belt, brainlet. Learn your space shit before you try to trash Musk.
Earth sends manufactured goods and colonists to Mars, Mars manufactures fuel and serves as a base for mining vessels as it's close to the Belt, metals are sent from the Belt back to earth.

>>133621598
SAIDF please go

>>133620985
You should take steps to prevent your own annihilation. Would you take the same stance towards Islam in France for example? All nations die, don't they? What does it matter if it's in 10 years or 10,000? That's the logic you're operating under.
>>133621067
>Humans don't deserve to exist
Then I suggest you start by ending your own existence, oh noble one.

somehow via some intergalactic space technology he regrew his balding head so maybe he is onto something a pact with benevolent aleins or something who knows maybe its just kapitalism

>>133599260
Nasa would probably be better of just canning SLS and contracting SpaceX/Blue Origin/ULA/etc

Space is such a raquest. All the reddit fags cant wait to give billions to NASA to do something useless and inefficient.

Imagine having such brand loyalty to a monopoly that you don't even entertain the idea that the reason everything costs billions is because it's a monopoly.

You faggot cuck Americans have literally paid over $1 trillion to NASA since its inception

>>133621067
>How does it feel to be such a pussy that you are afraid of hypothetical scenarios?
>he posted, as he fastened his seatbelt on his way to the bank to pay his insurance

>see he's just funded by taxpayers! that's the only reason he's so successful!
lmao you idiots have no right to criticize him, none of you are even close to his level of genius and will do nothing of worth your entire lives while he changes the world.

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http://uk.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-officially-launched-the-xcom-website-2017-7
first Mars, now this. Aliens confirmed

>>133622698

It's a notable goal beforehand as well, it'll be the start of learning deliberate planetary engineering and just what it takes to make a colony in space sustainable. Mars will never be profitable in our lifetimes, but it's a step onto bigger and better things like asteroid mining as you said.

If we can establish a permanent presence on Mars, we can start terraforming the fucker. Which is going to take hundreds if not thousands of years.

Human Empire soon. Ayys get out.

This guy is like Chris Roberts on a massive scale

only CR gives a choice to taxpayers whether to give him money

>>133623313

Nah, it's all well and good having private companies able to do things quicker and cheaper but that's only possible with a wealth of idealism that will dry up and lead to profit-focused goals.

NASA doesn't need to make a profit, it's purview is activity for the betterment of all mankind. NASA is an idealistic entity on purpose.

The Musks and other "dreamers" will die off and their good intentions will die with them. NASA will never die.

>>133599260
>$10 billion for a rocket to mars
>$10 billion for 1 day of gibs to undesirables.

Pick one

the scams never end

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>>133624590
This desu, gas the xenos, space war now

space travel is the biggest hoax in history, 53 million a day for nasa blue ball cartoons. wake up sheep

>>133625412
>government inefficiency
>therefore muh hoax, muh moon landing faked, muh flat earth
Can conspiratards just meme themselves to death already?

>>133599260
he deserves sum gibs

since his rockets are much cheaper than the competition

Anyway, what SpaceX seem to be pushing is another Falcon 9 deal.

It was struck to allow NASA to seed money for new commercial services to LEO and paid big dividends because SpaceX provide (I think) the cheapest kg/$ to LEO for NASA flights.

I'm quoting numbers I'm not sure of but:

NASA seeded them ~$400 Million to develop the Falcon 9.

Further to this NASA then paid another ~$1.6 Billion for 12 Falcon 9 launches.

So for ~$2 Billion NASA essentially helped build and then operate a rocket for 12 flights of a new rocket.

This frees up NASA to push on with cool shit like SLS rockets while filling American obligation to the ISS program.

SpaceX takes the $400 million and their own money to develop Falcon 9. A new rocket for a new era of space travel.

For money invested NASA got a great deal and it's probably the most successful Public-Private partnership in their history.

SpaceX now want to repeat the feat so to accomplish the entire goal of SpaceX and a key goal of NASA. Which is exploring/colonising Mars.

SpaceX saves time and money and NASA can get first dibs on astronauts and experiments on Mars.

Gotta go interplanetary before we go interstellar.

When I fuck a green space chick is it going to be race-mixing /pol/?

>>133599260
BEND THE KNEE, MUSK

BEND IT

>>133599260
Guess you shouldn't have BTFO of the President's tech council, huh Muskfag?
No gibs for joooooo!
Go FYS then go KYS Elon. Transhumanist garbage man.

>>133618609
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-11/its-confirmed-without-government-subsidies-tesla-sales-implode

Quick recent example above. Just go read up on teslas business model. It's basically
>gib muh company tax breaks cause green
>gib muh customers tax breaks cause green

It's a good business model currently, but i wonder if it'll handle the change if all the support was removed

>>133627916
what

>>133628269
what is google?

>>133628375
google is a online seach company

>>133628590
fire up those fingers then, elon

>>133599260
This guy is a weirdo, I'd be ashamed to have him as friend.

>>133599260
BP shill here. We must stop this guy at all costs kek wills it!

>>133628624
why would he or should he bend the knee tho and to whom

>>133628860
because
>>133600637

If this guy really wants to fight pollution he should become a bus driver instead of complaing about gibsmedats

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>Musk needs GIBS

You guys are literally retarded, you know that right?

>>133600772
I wouldn't trust that battery since its basically a fire bomb going off the Tesla batteries blowing up. Its the roll of the dice with Lithium Ion batteries.

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>>133604704

>>133629596
>Awarded contracts after getting GIBS means you do not need GIBS

What did the shill mean by this?

>>133630911

Those are global commercial contracts. Look at that market share. Everyone else is dead and it has nothing to do with gibs.

>>133631015
>the others dont have as much taxpayer funds in USD so therefore theyre not as good

what did the shill mean by this?

>>133628241
>It's a good business model currently, but i wonder if it'll handle the change if all the support was removed

>Tesla Sales Fall to Zero in Hong Kong After Tax Break Is Slashed
>New registrations of company’s vehicles dropped to zero from 2,939
>https://www.wsj.com/articles/teslas-hong-kong-sales-gutted-by-tax-change-1499598003

>>133631172

>global
>commercial
>somehow these are gibs

I know that Sherman fucked up the South, but I didn't know it was this bad.

>>133631308
>if you get gibs and are a company who trades internationally its not gibs

what did the shill mean by this?

>>133622128
This, /pol/ is just pretending they hate him just because he is loved in reddit.

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>>133599260
I've always hated this faggot and his Reddit personality cult.

>>133631666

Any funds he may make from government contracts he does so because someone is going to have to do the job, he just does the job cheaper. See that tiny, little lighter blue bar? That's ULA. And ULA (Lockmart/Boeing) gets way more gibs than SpaceX does by a country mile. So if the gibs is how you get the commercial contracts because you have more money, how is it that he is somehow beating literal countries combined? Countries who can afford to just throw unlimited gibs into their own state programs like India and China.

>>133604704
>>133630191

>actual panel
>all white men with 1 white woman
>google's interpretation
>"muh diversity"

>>133632129
>Other countries have infinite resources like India and China but poor broke US doesnt and they only compete by brute masculinity and not gibs

what did the shill mean by this?

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>>133632502
>literally can subsidize their own launches to below cost
>still losing global market share
>still cost more without subsidies
>still behind technologically
>entire countries
>"but it's the 1/10th of the total manifest's value that is doing it I tell you!"

>>133632795
>Other countries can subsidize below cost but USA actually literally does and eats market share by underbidding everyone, only enriching shareholders and employees and detracting from hardworking taxpayers; therefore Gibs is fine

What did the shill mean by this?

>>133600747
doublewo seven 4 seven and i jsut came

>>133599260
>gib 10bln pls
wew lad