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Trump Russia collusion - Smoking gun?

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What would it take to convince you that Trump colluded with Russia?

Do you need to see him swap briefcases with Putin himself?
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>>133586567
real evidence, not hurt feelings, go to sleep kid
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bump

I want to know why
1. You think Trump isn't a Russian puppet
2. You think Russia isn't an enemy
3. You think all the evidence these past 6 months doesn't prove collusion
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>>133586895
>I want to know why
>1. You think Trump isn't a Russian puppet
yes, he isnt
>2. You think Russia isn't an enemy
no they aren't
>3. You think all the evidence these past 6 months doesn't prove collusion
that is not evidence
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>>133586567
I love how they want to read emails and accept them as proof now. Sage goes in the options field :^).
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>>133586567
I can't believe that Russia, who with a supposedly expertly run campaign to secretly manipulate the election and evade being caught in the act, is undone by one email from some woman reaching out to trump via a celebrity..

Somehow the Russians, who acutely understand the risk of exposure in email communication given how they supposedly hacked those emails, had it slip their mind not to fail for the same mistake and send an email where they bluntly expose themselves.

Unless they intended to be caught, I struggle to understand the validity of this given how expertly clandestine and evil master minds they have been with everything else
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>>133587024
>yes, he isn't
Proof?

>no they aren't
You seriously think they're not a threat to global democracy? Did you see what they did to Ukraine and now their actions in Syria? Not to mention hacking our election.

>that is not evidence
The thread limit is too low to post all the news articles I've gone through these past few months all entailing fresh new evidence almost everyday. I suggest you try Google'ing it yourself instead of getting all your news from /pol/ and T_D.
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>>133586895
You should be the one proving those things you dingus.

>Trump had Russians pee on him, prove me wrong. DRUMPF BTFO
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>>133587238
The cherry on top is that Jr. himself released the emails, literally incriminating himself
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>>133587393
Incriminating himself with what?
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>>133587377
Oh those piss tapes are out there, just wait for them to show up on Pornhub one of these days
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>>133587253
>>yes, he isn't
>Proof?
it isnt my burden to provide proof, its yours, and so far its been only nothing burgers kid
>>no they aren't
>You seriously think they're not a threat to global democracy? Did you see what they did to Ukraine and now their actions in Syria? Not to mention hacking our election.
yes, they are not a threat, and they didnt hack the election, only stupid people from /r/politics think that kids story
>>that is not evidence
>The thread limit is too low to post all the news articles I've gone through these past few months all entailing fresh new evidence almost everyday. I suggest you try Google'ing it yourself instead of getting all your news from /pol/ and T_D.
i know how to "google" kid, you live in a bubble.
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Israel subverted our democracy a long time ago.

Russia wants stability in Syria and doesn't autistically flip out when Iranians have trading partners. That's a good thing.
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>>133587478
Oh you'll see, the house of cards is falling and this email was the first card to tip it
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>>133587571
So...still literally nothing. The same Russian narrative that has been pushed for months. "Just wait, there's evidence coming."
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>>133587503
>they are not a threat
Just look at how they run their own country. They don't play by the same rules as us - their private citizens can hack us all day and not go to jail. Same can't be said here. They are a threat to democracy.

>they didnt hack the election
You don't believe the US Intelligence Community findings? I actually read the intel report and it's conclusive. And ya sure it might've only been 4 departments but even if it was just 1, the intel report still stands.

>you live in a bubble
Oh the irony
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>>133587571
I hope at least before my death, because I've heard you and other people like you say this since Obama was still president
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>>133587811
So they hacked the election and changed votes to DJT's favor?
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>>133586567
>Subject : Super Secret Plan to overthrow america - with love to Putin
1005126% impeachment, drumpf is over
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>>133587503
I think it's hilarious how Trump supporters have fallen in love with Russia recently. Looks like that RT and Kremlin brainwashing has been working. Are you a Russian shill as well?
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i wonder how many russians browse this board
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>>133587934
Most likely but now we'll never know now that Trump's merry band have taken over. We'll have to wait until impeachment or his resignation for the proof to come out. Will you change your mind when it does?
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>>133587811
>>they are not a threat
>Just look at how they run their own country. They don't play by the same rules as us - their private citizens can hack us all day and not go to jail. Same can't be said here. They are a threat to democracy.
hahaha how old are you?, you must be a woman to be this stupid
>>they didnt hack the election
>You don't believe the US Intelligence Community findings? I actually read the intel report and it's conclusive. And ya sure it might've only been 4 departments but even if it was just 1, the intel report still stands.
i believe evidence, provide real evidence and ill weigh in all i know
>>you live in a bubble
>Oh the irony
hope those russians don't come tonight to steal all of your pink hats and use them to sabotage another election
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Good luck, retard.
The minute Trump goes down, every kike in the country becomes a target.
Don't think we haven't been taking names.
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>>133586567
>someone you know tells you they know someone has dirt on your opponent

In what universe do you not, at the least, see what they have to say?
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>>133588109
Where in any of their intelligence reports does it say they physically changed votes.

Ran a misinformation campaign? yeah sure, they probably put out false info. Changed votes on decentralized voting machines? Fuck no
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>>133586567
no evidence

exaggerated bullshit

nothing will happen

libtards must accept this

Fuck islam and fuck niggers.
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>>133586567
Shit-tier shill attempt. Even the media has already moved on from this complete non-story, so you think marking up a doc with red pen in ms paint is going to somehow be convincing? No one is buying this shit.

You're a pathetic laughing stock.
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>>133588150
>you must be a woman to be this stupid
Name calling? Already out of steam? Must be tough when your reality isn't based on facts. I can see right through your typical T_D bullshit.

>provide real evidence
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national

Now do you agree with me? At least admit you were wrong.
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>>133588440
Only reference to hacking was of emails, not of the election process.

So how did they hack the election.
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>>133588220
>A legion of autistic virgins waddling down towards Florida to kill senile Jews.
LET THEM FIGHT!
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>>133588330
Even if they had the info it wouldn't be released now that Trump is in charge. The agents who released it would be fired. And besides any agents who investigated would be fired as well.
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>>133587253

Russians were invited to Syria by their ally. We provided intelligence, training and materiel to ISIS bringing them from a fledgling fringe group to a full blown murder squad.

USA is bombing Syria without their consent.

Russia is not the bad guy, the deep state is. Get a grip.

KYS
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>>133587393
Nothing he did was illegal. Dirt digging in an election is not a crime.
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>>133586567
With the way it is phrased, they could have been talking about Hillary's ties to Russia as well desu.
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>>133586567
What is this schizophrenic bullshit? Are you really ass ravaged that they tried to get dirt on their opposition? What do you think the Access Hollywood Tape was?
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>>133587393
Yes, him and his lawyers are so completely incompetent.

Jesus Christ, you live in fucking fantasy land. Keep deluding yourself that this is meaningful. The rest of the world will keep laughing at how pathetic you are.
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>>133588220
Nice to see the alt-right leading the charge in political violence and antisemitism. Very good snowflake, you sure showed us!

>>133588547
see
>>133588555
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>>133588440
>Now do you agree with me? At least admit you were wrong.
no hahaha, do you really think this is evidence? nothing is going to come out of it because its not evidence, get it through your thick woman skull
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>>133586895
>1. You think Trump isn't a Russian puppet
There is literally no evidence and no sensible reason to believe he is.
>2. You think Russia isn't an enemy
We have a lot more in common than against them, specifically radical Islam being a menace to all civilized nations. They are rivals of the US, sure, but not enemies.
>3. You think all the evidence these past 6 months doesn't prove collusion
There is literally zero evidence.
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>>133586567
DRIP

DRIP

DRIP

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/saudi-arabia-has-funded-20-hillarys-presidential-campaign-saudi-crown-prince-claims
A foreign power, Saudi Arabia, literally donated to hillarys campaign

Ukraine interfered in the election to help Clinton. Documented fact that nobody talks about.
http://archive.is/IExhs

Russian lawyer trump jr contacted is linked to the firm the dnc hired to produce the infamous trump dossier.
http://archive.is/2y7Js

So if Don Jr committed treason then so did Hillary and co.

PRISON TIME BOYS
THIS IS JUST LIKE HARRY POTTER
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>>133586567
Donald jr emails
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Okay, no one has pointed this out but

CROWN PROSECUTOR OF RUSSIA

CROWN

PROSECUTOR


????????????
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>>133587811
The report detailed advertising on the part of Russians who may or may not have been connected to the government
>t.Actually read the report
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>>133587571
Imagine being this retarded after the biggest propogator of the Trump/Russian conspiracy, CNN, admitted it's an unsubstantiated sensationalist Witch Hunt and a Nothing Burger that they push for ratings and our own CIA is guilty of meddling in foreign elections. No really, imagine it...
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>>133586567
By the way, OP

The fake news has stopped talking about this now. Not because no crime was committed - they don't care about little things like that.

They care because this woman was given special permission to be in the US by none other than Obama's Attorney General Loretta Lynch (you know, the one who told Comey to refer to the Clinton investigation as a "matter").
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>>133588588
Do you get all your news from InfoWars and Breitbart? We never trained ISIS we were training rebel groups to fight ISIS. And we never bombed Syria until Trump came along.

Deep state is another alt-right conspiracy buzzword. Thanks for confirming you're talking out your ass.

>>133588618
So you admit that he knew what he was doing?
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>>133586567
>Do you need to see him
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See, Trump never traded anything for information. Every corruption claim against the Clinton's was stuff he publicly pulled off wikileaks. So as to wether wikileaks colluded with Russian hackers is one thing but Trump never did any of it personally. He's just sneaky enough to avoid blame like all smart politicians. Why are you left cucks complaining about? Bernie's corruption got swept under the rug and we all know Hillary is so corrupt Trump is just holding on to info to make sure she shuts her yap. The Democratic party is the epitome of corrupt mob style politics and yet you wanna pretend to be the defenders of democracy and justice? Lmao. Keep pretending to be the good guys, and keep pretending you have evidence because absolutely nobody is buying it.
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>>133588919
Why do you cherry pick your arguments?

You must answer and debate all of us.
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>>133586567
shill thread.. saged
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>>133588797

>crown prosecutor

Fredo is an idiot.
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>>133588919
>(((Rebels)))
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>>133586567
>What would it take to convince you that Trump colluded with Russia?

Evidence of literally anyone remotely associated with the Trump campaign something like what this random British citizen said in an obvious honeypot.

What would it take you to accept that Donald Trump is your President, you blackshirt thug?
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>>133588703
We have way more differences that commonality. Cooperating with them is only going to help our enemy. Besides "radical islam" isn't the menace you alt-righters make it out to be. If you want a menace look at climate change.

>There is literally zero evidence
Oh there's plenty, you all just conveniently ignore it all or say it doesn't matter. What will be the smoking gun that finally wakes all of you up?

>>133588713
Cool InfoWars links, those are surely credible and not biased at all!

>>133588825
So you admit it was the Russians?

>>133588894
>One reporter made small talk with a random guy which proves it all false
LOL

>>133588896
Oh by special permission you mean an extended month to continue her trial? Ya I kinda knew about that, now there's your "nothing burger"
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>>133587495
>I'm a conspiracy theorist, guys, that means you have to believe me!
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>>133587811
The US Intelligence is basing what they said on the work of Crowdstrike. Crowdstrike is the same group who said North Korea was behind the Sony hack which was completely untrue. So no, I don't trust them on this.
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>>133586567
Actual evidence. There was no info passed, therefor no collision. DT jr. is a retard, and Donnie dodged a bullet because of this.
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>>133589352
Are you fucking retarded? Radical Islam is a major problem, I think the 1595 people killed during Ramadan this year alone would disagree with you.
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>>133589352
>one reporter

I think you mean Executive Producer with 15 years experience and revealed the russian conspiracy narrative came from the top ie Zucker the CEO. If you want to be a drooling slave to the MSM then good for you, but do not conflate your schizophrenia with reality

Also 1980s called, they want their Red Baiting back
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>>133589429
>CNN IS FAKE NEWS!
Good job!

>>133589491
They made a mistake on a previous job, so what? The FBI trusts them.

>>133589627
What does "actual evidence" look like to you? An actual email saying "yes Putin I will make Russia stronger in exchange for you helping me win the election"? Because that'll never happen but all of the shady business surrounding Trump including all his shady meetings doesn't look too good.
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>>133589352
>Besides "radical islam" isn't the menace you alt-righters make it out to be

Tell that to all of ISIS's Yazidi slave-wives while you piss on their first husband's graves. Then come back here and brag about your virtue signalling.
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>>133589807
>CNN is real news!

How to detect a retard in 1 easy step
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>Muh Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_States
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>>133589689
Do you know how many people in the USA die from heart disease or gun violence? We spend trillions to save potentially a handful of lives meanwhile ignoring bigger issues. But that's a topic for another thread.

>>133589778
If you trust Project Veritas then it's obvious you're projecting your own schizophrenia.
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>>133589920
>inb4 MUH ALLIES

Same excuse the libortions use to deflect the millions hillary accept from Islamofascist regimes
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>>133589971
>No lives matter because I have the moral high ground!

Some day you will remember this thread and feel sad that you had so little empathy for your fellow human beings. But muh morals mean it's okay to think like a Nazi, amirite?
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>>133586567
Is Goldstone a russian last name or (((them))) again?
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>>133589914
>Fake News!
How to detect an alt-right retard who gets all his news from /pol/ and Trump Tweets in 1 easy step

>>133589920
Lobbying isn't illegal. Collusion and meddling in a foreign election is. Stop trying to deflect. Also your antisemitism is showing.
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>>133589352
>We have way more differences that commonality
What are these differences? We have far more in common with Russia than anywhere else except Europe.

>Oh there's plenty, you all just conveniently ignore it all
No. There is literally nothing. You are literally unable to cite anything genuinely incriminating, let alone an actual crime.

The person doing the ignoring is you; Uranium One, Clinton foundation, Obama's FISA warrants on Trump (possibly using this Russian lawyer as the justification for them), Lynch telling Comey to call it "a matter" etc...

>by special permission you mean an extended month to continue her trial?
The exemption she was granted is extremely rare and needs to be approved by the AG, who already looks to have made various moves to help Hillary and harm Trump.

There's a reason that the fake news has shut up about it. The more you dig, it's the Obama people who look guilty - again. Seems you haven't got the memo to shut up about this one yet.

Stop being such a god-damn retard.
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>>133589971
>Guys people die from other things, so just ignore the terrorists. It's part of big city living.
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>>133589971
Why would I not trust Project Veritas and why would I not trust a CNN Executive Producer with 15 years experience who didn't know he was being filmed?

Also did you take your schizoid pills today? Btw I hope you're wearing your tinfoil hat to keep the Russian hackers from manipulating your brain waves
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>>133586567
actual prove.
As of right now there is none even the russia election hacking crap is pure bullshit not based on facts.
17 intel agencies was a lie it was only a couple of HAND PICKED people from 4 agencies and they didnt even have acces to the hardware this priviledge was only "granted" to a third party paid by the dnc. You really cant make this bullshit up. So my question is how many inconsistencies, now proven lies and literally no prove do YOU need to actually see its bullshit? Oh right its not about what really is going on its about "muh evil trump".
As of right now all the russia crap including the election hacking (we know the stuff was actually leaked not hacked) is a conspiracy theroy with nothing backing it up.
So both sides kinda have to wait and see what mueller comes up with and if he is trusthworty.
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>>133590143
>alt-right

How to detect an out of touch libortion im 1 easy step
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>>133590115
Don't you Trumplets hate brown people? I'm just saying we need to help our own first, and millions of people die here from easily preventable causes that are being ignored for Trump to continue neo-con proxy wars. What do you think will happen when ISIS is gone? A new one will pop up. It'll never end. Stop chasing your tail. Also you're the one claiming moral superiority, try reading your own post.
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What exchange of information/goods happened?
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>>133587811
>You don't believe the deep state?

The same one that said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction?
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>>133586567
how is that collusion? there is no conspiracy here, only digging dirt on someone
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>>133590143
>Lobbying isn't illegal.
Good to hear you are find with the future foundation of a true Russian lobby and I am not talking about the Clintons and their dealings.

>Collusion and meddling in a foreign election is.
Tell that to the DNC and Ukraine.

>Stop trying to deflect.
It is not deflecting when you have an actual ZOG in place with as much power as AIPAC.

>Also your antisemitism is showing.
All Jews can rot in Hell and this is not reddit you kike puppet.

This is just the beginning AIDS infected faggot.
http://thehill.com/policy/international/un-treaties/311715-israel-obama-administration-colluded-with-shameful-anti
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>>133590473
https://archive.is/jFsru
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oh look, this thread again. As a neutral that didn't vote in this election the dems have proven themselves to be as crazy as the republicans
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>>133590342
Hillary accepted millions from Islamofascist regimes in exchange for opening our borders to radical jihadist....oh wait this just an email about adoption or something?
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>>133590506
Thanks as usual Norway archive bot.
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>>133590181
If what you're rattling off is true (it's not) then why wouldn't the Trump Administration do anything about it? Oh that's right, because it's all a bunch of conspiracy buzzwords. Break the conditioning.

>>133590186
You probably also are against stricter gun legislation whenever there's a mass shooting. I can just tell from your post.

>>133590289
Heil! 1488! Am I doing it right?
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>>133586567
op sucks russian cock.
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>>133590143
>How to detect an alt-right retard who gets all his news from /pol/ and Trump Tweets in 1 easy step

Well what do you actually want people can shower you right now with several articles by cnn that are basically biased crap.
So literal prove provided by the cnn website itself wont satisfie your idology damaged brain.
I mean how fucking easy is it for you?
This is literally you:
YOU: Hahhah the sky is brown!
anon: Eh nope its blue thx to the athmosphere and light refraction ocean reflection
YOU: i dont care, i also dont care about your countless proves lol
YOU: If i ignore your prove the sky is still brown to me lolol you fucking idiots lolol

This is really fucking you, this is basically how you argue. No one says everything cnn is fakenews but they obviously spread lies and one sided crap which they had to know was a lie and one side crap and its usually only against trump never dems, this tells the average intellect usually something.. not you. Ideology has you in its grip hard.
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>>133590335
>The other side is worse than me, so no matter what I do I'm still the good guy!

I didn't vote for Trump, but because of hatemongering terrorist-wannabe nutjobs like you I'm voting for him in 2020. I'm never voting Democrat again.

Good and evil are things people invented to make stories told to children and drunk people more entertaining. Just because I won't kiss your ass for how much virtue you shoved up there doesn't mean I think I'm a good person.

Everyone is terrible. Even me, the guy shitposting on /pol/ past midnight.
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>>133590528
Not even Republicans were thus schizophrenic about Obamas shady past. Libtards see Russians in their cornflakes

>>133590563
Curb your autism, kike
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>>133586567
We live in a time where the biggest political scandal of our lives will be ignored because le ebin memes. That's just he sad reality I've come to expect. Nothing will come of this besides new b8 and more shitposting ammunition.
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>>133588668
>Even if they had the info it wouldn't be released now that Trump is in charge. The agents who released it would be fired. And besides any agents who investigated would be fired as well.

Were you born this stupis? Trump has more leaks by the deep state than any president in history and you're really stupid enough to believe he could keep a leak on it if they were out there. This is why women should not be allowed to vote. They are too stupid to be making decisions that involve our country's decisions. Most who voted for Hillary literally had no idea on any policy she was running on and did so because she had a va jay ay between her legs. Women are incredibly stupid.
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>tfw you lived long enough to see pol become the SJWs relying on blind emotion over reason

This email proves there was contact between someone intimating that they represented the Russian government. This email further proves that Trump's team, if not he himself, has been lying. Trump has consistently said any claims of Russian ties are false. This is proof that they were very much open to the idea, this specific situation just failed.
I never believed the intelligence reports, didn't even believe this story until Jr himself released the emails.
I'm seriously bummed: this email proves they werenopen to cooperating with the russian government, so i am now forced to reevaluate the IC reports.
How much influence Russia did or did not have remains to be proven, but its very clear the Trumps would likely have utilized their assistance if it actually materialized.
Trump didn't even try any legal cheekiness, like "I didn't break any laws." He instead went full retard and acted like people were crazy.
Flynn' resignation is in a different light now for me, Sessions meetings, all of it.
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>>133590713
>biggest politicial scandal
>MUH WUSSIANS!

This is just pathetic
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>>133590665
So far all I've seen is
>Name calling
>Antisemitism (DA JOOS!)
>"You're wrong"
>"Bullshit"
>InfoWars-tier conspiracy articles

Now who's the one without proof again?
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>>133590741
Except for the fact the Clintons actually had someone IN the Ukraine during the election, not the Trumps. The Clintons were actually involved with Russian agents of the state and being paid money by them for speeches and influence to the foundation.
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>>133590741
>Trump campaign was open to dirt on the opposition

Oh lord, the humanity! What's next, hiring a bunch of men to say hillary raped them?
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>>133590835
>Now who's the one without proof again?

That would be you. Still not one shred of proof. Just conjecture.
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>>133590473
>>133590543
Trump is in charge now so why doesn't he do anything about the "DNC and Ukraine" or Hillary? Oh that's right because it's all false. And if that's false, then what else do you believe in is false? Think about it.
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>>133586567
Collusion isnt a crime doofus
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>>133590741
>so i am now forced to reevaluate the IC reports.

Are you? Junior took a honeypot. Kushner and Manafort (who actually did do shady shit) bailed. Veselwhatsit didn't even know she was supposedly going to divulge something juicy.

At worst it shows that a close relative of the President is an idiot (never read Junior's Twitter before?) and Kushner kept his mouth shut about Junior's poor judgment.
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>>133590835
You with your fucktarded half baked Fake News conspiracies you slimey coin chasing hook nosed sheister
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>>133590143
>Collusion

Collusion isn't illegal
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>>133590872
I didn't once say they weren't. I'm deeply disgusted by the free pass she's been given over Uranium One, and her direct interference with Putin's campaign in 2012.
The hypocrisy is staggering.
That's one of the reasons I voted for Trump in spite of not caring for his fake tough guy rich kid bluster.
Nothing you typed refuted the current facts on the table provided by Don jr himself.
Like I said, even if NY Times released this emails i would be skeptical (see Bush's alleged military records).
But Jr himself released them.
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>>133590946
The Don Jr email and the DHS Intel statement. The rest you can find by looking anywhere outside your Trump-Russia loving echo chamber.
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>>133590969
Mueller is about to start investigating both Hillary and the DNC. You'll be hearing about it in the coming days, but not on liberal MSM who will completely ignore the story because it doesn't fit their narrative.
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>>133590741
>this email proves they werenopen to cooperating with the russian government
how is that bad? also this email doesnt prove he did anything illegal - the only illegal thing is that jr lied about never ever talking to any russians. which yes was stupid, but for the rest it only suggests that dirt on clinton was supplied to trump by someone who wasnt american, which by itself isnt illegal
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>>133590969
I didn't know you could predict the future. What else do you see in your crystal ball? Trumps landslide re-election?
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>>133586567
>22 posts by this id

Do you know how I know you're a shill?
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>>133590925
No one said that's an issue, myself included. He has stood in front of his supporters, Americans who lost family and friends over voting for him, and he has unequivocally denied ANY contact/collusion with Russia. At this point, it's becoming a fuck you to his supporters.
Basically, it's looking like he cucked his supporters hard.
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>>133589807
The FBI shouldn't trust them after that "mistake". How on earth do you make a mistake like that? Then only they are allowed to look at the DNC servers? Why wouldn't they let the FBI look at them? Crowdstrike is the company the DNC uses when they want to frame someone for something.
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>>133590835
Thx for yet another confirmation of your inability to grasp basic facts and be immune to prove if its against your brain damaging ideology... its not like i needed more confirmation from you that you are in basic terms a idiot.
I literally larped a conversation as example on how you argue and you answer by doing exactly the thing i was larping about.
It would be kinda amazing if it isnt so headache inducing stupid on your part.
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>>133590982
>>133591046
Moving the goal posts already?

>>133591079
Ya, doubt it. Even if he did nothing will come of it, it'll be just for show to appease his new Trump overlord.
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>>133591077
Oh wow, an email about Russian adoption. This will impeach Zlarmpf this time for sure
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>>133591014
I agree it's not a smoking gun for Trump in and of itself but it is forcing me to reevaluate the IC reports because there is now proof of more contact than I ever was willing to believe before the emails were released. It concerns me.
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>>133591057
He released them because it doesnt mean shit. If someone said they had dirt on my political opponent I would want to see it as well. What if its something that shows they would damage my country. Would I not want to hear it and let others know this as well? If it is factually verifiable then of course, anyone would. Would you have a problem if it had been the UK or France that this was dealing with? I think it would be incredibly irresponsible not to hear any political dissent if it showed up. What if the information showed she was trading classified info to China? Wouldnt you want to know this before you cast your vote? Everyone, no matter what party, hears all political dirt on their opponents. To think otherwise is simply ignorance.
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>>133588797
LoL nice, I hadn't noticed that. Your the first I've seen point that out.
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>>133591183
There was clearly no contact or collusion, this meeting was set up by Obama, probably to legitimize his fascist FISA warrants to bug Trumps communications
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>>133591287
>Ya, doubt it. Even if he did nothing will come of it, it'll be just for show to appease his new Trump overlord.

You do understand what INDEPENDENT COUNSEL means correct?
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>>133589033
>muh wikileaks
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>>133591144
No need, everything I've said is based on facts that have already happened. Or in your case not happened LOL

>>133591229
Nice conspiracy theory. Shouldn't you be watching Fox News?
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>>133591092
The laws are written very vaguely, and are open to interpretation. Depending on what prosecutor reviewed the case and facts, it could be charged as an attempted crime. Not sure if you're familiar with US criminal law, but we have the ability to charge attempted crimes in addition to ones actually committed.
I am not saying that scenario applies here, but this email is a serious problem for me as a Trump voter.
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>>133590969
>Hillary
Well Slick Willy meet with the attorney general Lynch on the plane and FBI directory Comey listed all the reasons she could and should be charged but declined to act on the "matter" for some gosh darn oh lordy reasons. Effectively, she is off the hook... for now.

>DNC and Ukraine
Don't worry nigger it is on the way.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dnc-could-face-investigation-into-ukraine-ties-if-christopher-wray-is-confirmed/article/2628480

Also, I like how you ignored the FACT that the nigger kang Obama colluded to take out the Israeli PM. And you kike puppets say that nigger was scandal free and the Israelis themselves say he colluded to attack Bibi. That dirty nigger.
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>>133591436
You do understand that Trump is now the ultimate authority of the land correct?

>>133591277
>More name calling
>Still no proof
Good job I guess?
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>>133591522
attempted or not - you have to name a crime. name the crime
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>>133591471
>based on facts

Oh sorry, I didn't realize libtards were passing off unsubstantiated sensationalist conspiracies that CNN push to their drooling knuckle dragging audience as """facts""" now, silly me
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>>133591584
Awww the snowflake doesn't like being called names. Need a safespace cupcake?
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>>133591584
>Trump can do anything and it will be done.

Yeah hows that working out with travel ban, the wall, immigration, deep state leaks. Your entire statement here just got thrown in the garbage.
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OP here, enough with all of the conspiracy and name calling. It's obvious you Trump sympathizers have willingly ignored everything that's been happening the past 6 months.

So moving forward, what would prove without a doubt that Trump had colluded and is a Russia puppet? What would open your eyes? What would be the smoking gun?
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>>133591584
>everything i dont like even if it is proven factually correct is name calling lololol says something i dont like? name calling!

you caricature
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>>133591804
How much are they paying you for this crap?
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>>133591804
>I've proven my point with verifiable facts linking a treasonous charge of conspiracy with Trump and Russia. Facts that cannot be disproven and show undeniable proof that I have found and provided what no intel agency or media outlet has been able to provide yet, and I am providing it here for all to see on 4chan first.
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>>133591335
Im not saying other parties don't do it, etc.
I'm noticing that seems to be the new theme when people are defending this, which usually means the defenders themselves are beginning to have doubts. This fucking sucks, im not happy about it. I've lost friends over this fucking election.
If it were France or the U.K. It would be illegal as well, which makes the Fusion GPS involvement also fucking insane to me. The media literally quotes a report from a foreign agent hired.
So trust me, I would Have a problem with it no matter what.
Do other candidates do it? Fuck yeah, it's why I voted Trump. I'm old enough to remember Chinagate in the 1990's. That helped sparked all the foreign involvement we see today. I have always resented the Clinton's and media for allowing and forgiving that.
Other candidates are generally politically experienced enough to know not to put stuff in writing and any normal person with even a modicum of life experince could spot that honeypot email a mile away. That also concerns me: that Trump is around retards that stupid.
It's not the crime, it's the coverup.
I feel like I'm in a bad dream.
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>>133591804
Orders from the Russian government (that he followed), a payment from Russia to his campaign for a promise given by him, him stating "I am a Russian puppet"
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>>133591804
Your nigger kang colluded against the Israeli PM. Explain yourself faggot.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/un-treaties/311715-israel-obama-administration-colluded-with-shameful-anti

>INB4 OP runs back to (((reddit))) without addressing the nigger king Obama colluding against Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu
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>>133591430
Again, people aren't reading what I'm saying. I'm saying this email proves openness to collusion, which means at the very least Trump has lied to his supporters who gambled on him. We got cucked. The only question now is did our wife just fuck around on us or are we all the way to full my wife's son, JUST status?
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>>133591804
Don't let the door hit you on the pussy on the way out, bitch. And take your tinfoil hat too you schizoid conspiratorial fuck
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>>133591287
No idiot, you can't charge someone for collusion. Collusion doesn't have a statute. Collusion is not a crime.
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>>133592110
No the email doesn't prove "openness to collusion".
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>>133592006
Pretty much this. Russia working to get trump elected without his knowledge or involvement isn't illegal on the part of trump. What's he supposed to do, go oh the russians want me to win, better drop out of the race after personally spending millions.

I agree that russia probably helped trump, but I don't believe it was anything like trump promising them anything. IF that were to come out i'd change my tune.
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>>133592123
Yes collusion is a crime. It would be collusion if Putin told Trump "now I'm going to hack the election and make you president and in return you will sell me all the oil in the US for pennies" and then if Trump says "ok" - then this is collusion.
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>>133591998
The new norm? No. Everyone has always known it was going on. It's the arrogance of the liberals now playing stupid and pretending that it hasn't. It's the arrogance of the Dems who, even though proof has been shown that they do it as well, are trying to pretend this is somehow something new. Remember, when this happened, it happened before liberals needed a little crybaby place to point their finger for being the biggest losers in election history. That finger decided to point all of the blame at Russia. Before this election no one thought shit of Russia and the Obama admin even espoused a partnership between the 2 countries. Now all of a sudden Dems have driven the narrative back to McCarthyism tactics. It's pathetic liberals are so weak minded and allow themselves to be puppets of the liberal MSM.
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>>133592110
>openness to collusion

Not really, what's the collusion? Even if there was dirt passed, still doesn't constitute collusion. That's called opposition research, alls fair in Love, War, and Politics.

Also your concern should be Obamas team setting up the meeting so they could encroach on Trumps privacy
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>>133586567
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>It was Manafort!
>No, it was Carter Page!
>Wait, no, it was Lewandowski
>No, it was Flynn
>No, it was Kushner
>Guys, GUYS, listen... it was Donald Jr. I'm sure it will stick this time!

ok bud
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>>133591598
>>133591598
Possibly campaign finance law, depending on how you define "contributions", possibly perjury due to his omission of that contact on his SF paperwork, and possibly lying to a federal agent, the catch all in USC that Feds always fall back on, depending on how deep the SF background interviews went.
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>>133592110
If someone freely gets information it's not collusion. Did he give ANYTHING in return?
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>>133592252
If collusion is a crime then why havent a multitude of journalists been charged for clear collusion between the Clinton foundation and media outlets to help get them elected? That has been proven as FACT.
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>>133591804
Did you actually run away you AIDS infected faggot?
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>>133592123
There is no collusion statute. No one gets charged with the crime of collusion because there is not such thing as the crime of collusion.
I think its time you turn off John Oliver and Stephen Colbert.
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>>133592349
You know what they say about insanity, doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results, but it's really all they have....

Demshitters, Deep staters, Rhinos, and MSM are all going for a 1 hit KO, but Trump dodges every time, letting them tire themselves out and ruin what little reputation they have left
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>>133592176
We aren't reading the same email then, and the American people here are mostly reading it as "uh oh, what aren't we being told".
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>>133592252
see >>133592448
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>>133592406
i wonder why too...
especially the DNC thing with bernie... now THAT was collusion.
>>133592357
thats bullshit. youre just trying to pin a crime - no matter what crime, because your mind is set like that. and in any case this is all about jr, not trump. if he was dumb enough to lie like that - well he deserves it. well obviously he was dumb enough to lie like that so he deserves it, but it is only illegal that he lied.
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>>133592335
Hahaha this meme list is too funny. Reads like something an intern would write on a status report.

Also,
>Signed 30 new EOs
>Repealed several EOs created by Obama
LOL I remember you republicans losing your minds everytime Obama wrote another EO, but I guess now it's fine that Trump is doing it? Nice double standards. "Obama did it so why can't we" is a poor excuse.
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>>133586567
Hey, OP...here's a headline for ya.
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>>133592545
The American people don't give a fuck because the MSM have been crying wolf about the Russian Conspiracy for half a year.

You can only take a bite out of a Nothing Burger so many times before you demand Where the fuck is the meat?
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>>133592288
Im not arguing with anyone about the hypocrisy of Dems, the absurdity that Obama allegedly knew about this last year and didn't say anything because he assumed Clinton was a lock, etc. I could even maybe make a case that the Pied Piper strategy caused Hilldawg to ask Obama to hold off on releasing Russian info about Trump because she wanted him as her opponent over say Marco Rubio or Rato or Jeb!
That would be an entirely different level of corruption, a willingness to play politics with national security.
We aren't on opposite sides my friend, that's what hurts about this.
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>>133592624
Because collusion isn't a crime. If it is, then name the exact statute for all to see here. We cannot name a negative. We cannot name a law that doesn't exist. But since you are stating it exist then you need to provide the actual law to show everyone it does indeed exist for all to see.
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>>133592662
*yawn*
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>>133592562
>>133592406
>>133592448
https://definitions.uslegal.com/c/collusion/
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>>133592662
Except many of Obamas were actually unconstitutional and struck down as such. Which is why Republicans were getting pissed. Big difference.
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>>133592662
It's not a poor excuse, Obonobo set the precedent. Eat shit piss gargler
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>>133592538
Says the guy who probably believes in the "Seth Rich" and "Lock Her Up" conspiracies. Any progress on those? Any new evidence? Yeah, didn't think so. Meanwhile our actions are based on facts and reality.
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>>133592335
Holy shit so much cognitive dissonance in this list. I seriously hope nobody takes this bullshit list seriously? LOL
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>>133592740
> could even maybe make a case that the Pied Piper strategy caused Hilldawg to ask Obama to hold off on releasing Russian info about Trump because she wanted him as her opponent over say Marco Rubio or Rato or Jeb!

Lol, then why not release it (because it doesnt exist) after he became the nominee and they threw every speck of dirt they could find at him? Weak argument.
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>>133592323
I am a miraculous human who can have two concerns at once. I can even have 10-20 concerns. The set up of this meeting is a massive fucking concern.
The email clearly shows Trump Jr willing to meet with a foreign national intimating Russian government backing. Collusion in this case would be, "working with Russian gov to beat Hillary." Quid pro quo is implied because once cooperation occurs, the foreign actor owns you.
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>>133587393
except the story already blowing up in the Dems face, as usual.
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>>133591442
>((leaks)) are only relevant if they are against those i appose
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>>133592662
Well, Obama was a dick sucking communist faggot. So, no. I don't give a fuck about double standards. Leftist fucktards don't get fair treatment.
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>>133592762
Name the fucking statute. Not a fucking definition.
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>>133592919
what the fuck is a statute?
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>>133592762
Thats not a statute doofus, thats just a definition.
Google failed you this time.
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Holy shit there is more than 1 post by the op. Most surprising thing I've ever seen here. Just how fucking normied has this place gotten to have people of such mediocre cognizance actually spending time here?
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>>133592122
Pot calling the kettle black

>>133592426
I'm still here waiting for something of substance but so far it's been the same old Trump Team talking points. Nothing I haven't heard before. Boring!
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>>133592890
lol, they dont own shit. You come give me $5 and I take it and later you tell me to do something I tell you to fuck off.
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>>133592948
It's the actual written law and code.
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>>133592803
Believes what? That Seth Rich was assassinated for giving Wikileaks the DNC emails? Fact. That Hillary Clinton is a seditious traitor and a career criminal with a body count as long as your arm and a phony foundation to launder bribes she took as SoS? Fact.

Meanwhile your schizophrenic asses are talking about an adoption email or who even knows what, you're all insane
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>>133592662
>>133592803
>>133592871
Are you just going to ignore the FACT that the nigger kang, in the words of the Israelis, COLLUDED against Israel?! Are you calling the kikes liars?! Are you going to defend the anti-Israeli Obama?! I thought you AIDS patients said the nigger was scandal free? Com on faggot just address the FACT that Obama colluded against Israel.

http://thehill.com/policy/international/un-treaties/311715-israel-obama-administration-colluded-with-shameful-anti
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>>133586567
Is russian a person?
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>>133592545
If opposition research in your view is illegale what should happen to the dnc/hillary after the release of the "grab her by the pussy tape"? You seem to kinda forget that if your crap is actual true (it isnt but humor me)that your new invented rules count for everyone(you just invented them to get rid of trump without thinking ahead what it would mean for others lol) what in your your mind should be the punishment for the hillary clinton campaign after the spread of "grab her by the pussy" tape?
I like to remind people collusion is not a crime it depends on what the collusion is about.
Talking with a non goverment lawyer about abortion is not illegale lel
Selling uranium to russia for private monitary gain or keeping a server in non safe non goverment approved private space on the other hand...
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>>133592624
I fucking voted for him. My mind isn't set to anything. I specifically said "it depends on the prosecutor" because US criminal system here gives prosecutors insane amounts of leeway. We have a saying here "you can indict a ham sandwhich". If there are any US attorneys in this thread or US LE they will confirm that.
Federal law specifically is insane, especially federal procedure. Hearsay for example is admissible.
I'm giving you realistic potential scenarios, not what I think should happen or want to.
Federal prosecutors can run buckwild with a grand jury, up to and including secret grand juries with sealed indictments.
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>>133592890
>Isis tells Donald they have video of Hillary beheading an infidel screaming allahu ackbar
>Donald says cool send it over
>Isis owns Donald

Not sure I understand where your third point comes from here can you clarify?
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>>133592989
>I'm waiting for something of substance
>Has posted zero evidence himself
Sad!
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>>133592989
It's funny how OP the shill still hasn't responded to how much he's getting paid.

Go ahead, tell us how much they are paying you for this relentless propaganda.
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>>133593047
>Fact
>Source: InfoWars and Breitbart
If they were truly facts then why hasn't anything happened? Hmmm

>Adoption email
I love how Trump started this meme and now all of you are eating it up.

>>133593082
No but I see you're already moving the goal posts
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>>133592989
This faggot will not even address the FACT that the nigger prez COLLUDED against Israel!!!!

Obama COLLUDED against Israel and got beat like a the worthless nigger he is.

HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

http://thehill.com/policy/international/un-treaties/311715-israel-obama-administration-colluded-with-shameful-anti
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>>133592890
There really is nothing. Even if the lawyer gave him hillarys +30,000 deleted emails it wouldn't mean collusion. The fact that nothing came from the meeting is really telling, especially the White House Anons allegory of the slingshot. They're going to keep pulling until the band snaps and smacks them in the face
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so buy the look of the marathon effort by op that its not a shairablue poster but the old guard of JIDF because of the all the goalpost moving and deflection? so should we sage or keep giving op more rope?
btw again props for sticking around and copying a pasteing your argument 101 sheet
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>>133592872
No it's not at all. The Pied Piper stragtegy from the Wikileaks indicated that Trump was their ideal opponent. If they release that info when he gets the nomination, GOP could have ran someone else in an emergency change. (It's not easy and would have involved litigation probably but I'm guessing they could have done it). You have to consider it from their perspective. Hillary was literally a 99% statistical win according to almost every data model they used. Why would they bother releasing it, drawing attention to her foreign entanglements etc?
You're viewing that strategy in the hindsight of Trump's victory.
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>>133592893
This

I hope this gets brought up when Loretta Lynch is probed
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>>133592948
If you don't know what that is, you need to stop arguing about US law now.
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>>133593293
Then why not release it 2 days before election. It wouldnt matter who you ran, that would be adefinitive win for Hillary. That argument falls flat.
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>>133593191
>>133593193
I'm just trying to make you all question your beliefs and see the light. It must be stressful having such extremists opinions!

>>133593069
I've said it before and I'll say it again - if any of your conspiracies are true then why hasn't anything happened? Apply some critical thought and a touch of skepticism. Think!
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>>133592989
You're the schizophrenic freak with a tinfoil hat rocking in a corner murmuring about muh russians. Get help
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>>133593035
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_18_of_the_United_States_Code
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
it should be somewhere here then
maybe this
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/210
i guess collusion is a colloquialism or something. maybe the legal term is conflict of interest
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>>133593069
who cares about Netanyahu. Influencing client states isn't a problem. It's a problem when other countries try to influence us.
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>>133593000
That's not even a remotely accurate comparison.
More like, "you give me help in my election as a foreign gobernmenr we have sanctions against, I have proof of your actions, you lie about it later in front of millions and now I threaten to release said proof if you don't play ball."
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>>133593382
That wouldn't do shit. It takes time for things to take effect. 2 days isn't enough.
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>>133592957
>>133593035
>>133593352
here you go
>>133593430
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Seein that bombshell of a ruskie lawyer jr met with, I'd be willing to bet they did a little bit more than shake hands.

*dancing eyebrows*
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>>133591471
Okay then, if they weren't hiding crimes they have committed, or wanted to frame Russia, why wouldn't they allow the FBI to look at their servers? Please explain that decision that makes any rational sense.
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>>133593240
Because the Clintons are Cartel Criminals with friends in high places

You're claiming the email wasn't about adoption? You don't even know what it's about, you're just repeating whatever Big Brother tells you like a good boot licking sheep
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>>133589352
>"radical islam" isn't a menace
as a person who lives in a country currently being ravaged by those retards, fuck you
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>>133593274
It's reddit retards.
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>>133593415
I'm perfectly fine. My thoughts are grounded in facts and reality unlike yours. Do you take everything you see in your echo chamber at face value? You should try getting out sometime. Get all perspectives.
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>>133593155
Please respond
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>>133593093
Im now convinced im arguing with bots. I've addressed my hatred of Hillary's foreign collusion multiple times in this thread.

These "new rules" aren't mine. Lying on an SF form for clearance has always been a crime. Michael Flynn for example.
No one is inventing anything.
I've watched supporters in the past week go from "there was never any Russian contact you're crazy" to "it's not collusion who cares".
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>>133593398
I'd rather you try to actually argue, you hack.
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>>133593398
You still haven't responded, prove to us you aren't a paid shill.

It's pretty obvious you are just putting our propaganda, go ahead, prove you are a real person without an agenda.
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>>133593511
She's a filthy Khazar
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>>133586567
OMG is this...this is somebody winding us up right? LOL
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>>133593398
every post you made are non arguments.
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>>133593689
does that mean she does butt stuff?
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>>133593490

>To date, only one person has ever been indicted for violating the Act's provisions.[2] However, no person has ever been prosecuted for alleged violations of the Act.[2]

Did you just link me Title 18? kek. Go back to plebbit.
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>>133588797
>
Anonymous (ID: FoqEL2SY) 07/14/17(Fri)16:54:59 No.133588797▶>>133589106 >>133591356
> Okay, no one has pointed this out
I have a couple of times on other threads..

> CROWN PROSECUTOR OF RUSSIA
*no such position exists*
Russia is a Federation.
It killed its monarch in 1917.
It has no "crown" and therefore no "crown prosecutor"
Legally the "Crown prosecutor" refers to the Queen..... Of England... Not Russia

Also - the Russian lawyer was. It in any way connected to the Russian government.
In fact she is working in opposition to,the official Russian position.....
But no one in the US understands enough to realise not all Russians are kremlin operatives .... Some actually oppose their own government.
Which is what this woman was doing, and why she was working with the Obama admin and the Clinton campaign.
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>>133586567

>Going to jail:

Flynn
Kushner
Don Jr.

Manafort will flee the country.

Roger Stone will remain an albino more syphilis wracked version of Trump.

Trump's presidency has already been a giant nothingburger. Not even a nothingburger, but like the fart you let out after eating an nothingburger.

The Russian thing will consume and engulf his con-man run and history will make fool of all his voters and supporters. Like Nixon, for some reason in 10 years you won't be able to find a Trump voter despite him having won.

And Rebublicucks will still be winning elections with MUH CLINTON and MUH BLACK PRESIDENT in the shitholes of the USA.

Write it down.
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>>133593733
i dont get your point. it is the law.
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>>133593607
You're not fine, you have been brainwashed by MSM who are still mad that Trump spanked their ass red and whoever is still tuning into the daily tinfoil hat russian conspiracy circlejerk think something will come from it when MSM is taking advantage of their naivety for ratings
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>>133593483
lol, you honestly believe that if there were treasonous evidence of a presidential candidate it wouldnt be broadcast across media outlets and social media at lightning speed. Even a week wouldnt do shit for the GOP new candidate. Credibility would be destroyed by that.
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>>133593398
>if any of your conspiracies are true then why hasn't anything happened?
Obama COLLUDES against Israel and Trump wins. Seems like something most certainly happened. Seriously, if this is the best you liberal faggots from reddit got you better start stocking up on ass cream because you faggots are going to get politically violated in 2018 and 2020.

>>133593432
>Influencing client states isn't a problem.
wew lad
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WASHINGTON, July 13, 2017 — You can’t blame the Russians for poking a little fun at hyperventilating Democrats and mainstream media over supposed collusion between President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.


[Russian President Vladimir Putin and President Donald Trump meet while attending the G-20 summit in Germany]

According to Pravda, Russia didn’t need “to tell Donald Trump’s campaign that Hillary [Clinton] was a dangerous candidate, with an unlikable personality, that the use of the Clinton Foundation charity in the presidential campaign was a topic spread across the social media. In fact, it was not necessary for anyone to spread any dirt on Hillary Clinton’s campaign because she was perfectly capable of doing all that damage herself.”

In all the hoopla over Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with “Kremlin connected” lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, it appears the topic of Clinton dirt never came up.
1/?
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Classic Trump.

Masking sexual deviancy with politics.
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>>133588896
Yes the OP is freelancing.
Does not realise the narrative has already shifted and no one in the DNC and CNN wants to talk about Russian lawyers here without visas, working with John McCain
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>>133593731
Probably is into face fucking too, jews are raunchy
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>>133593155
You have just brought up an absolutely fascinating potential permutation.
In my scenario, it's a foreign government. Candidates are prohibited by law from accepting cash or assistance from foreign citizens or governments. Assistance is open to interpretation.
The ISIS scenario is a little more nuanced because what if it's a US citizen member of ISIS? If not, ISIS isn't a foreign state that is recognized but IS an officially designated terrorist group against whom we have laws preventing commerce. An argument could be made that If you utilize their info you're providing material support to them indirectly (by helping accomplish their goal of shitting on Hilldawg).
Now if you go to Feds, say "hey I got contacted by Russian/ISIS and they have this info"? I think you'd be in the clear.

Either way your question raised some really interesting possibilities.
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>Hillary receives millions of dollars from Saudi Arabia
>Donald Trump's son meets with a Russian lawyer who Loretta Lynch gave special permission to be in the country
Liberals: "C-Collusion! Donald Trump is evil and Hillary should have been elected! Donald should be in jail for violating... Um... We're working on finding a statute that this violates, but we're sure there must be one..."
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>>133593739
I'm not sure the Russian lawyer was even in on it. Pedo jew goldstone probably told her he was really just setting up an adoption meeting before sending out this outrageous fisa bait email. The most upsetting thing about this is don jr falling for for this obvious setup so hard. I expected more from him.
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>>133593490
>It should be somewhere in here.

You have not provided the actual law and its proven application to this instance. Showing a couple laws and expecting us to figure out how it might apply here makes your argument a failure.
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>>133593866
Instead, the lawyer lobbied for the U.S. to rescind the 2012 Magnitsky Act, which targets certain Russian officials with economic sanctions for their role in the beating death of Sergei Magnitsky, a Moscow lawyer and fraud investigator.

During the 2016 presidential campaign, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said on more than one occasion that dark revelations concerning Hillary Clinton were in the offing. What was revealed, however, had little to do with Clinton’s Russia collusion to bring husband Bill enormous speaking fees or to secure for Putin’s Russia a massive uranium concession in North America.


[Former President Bill Clinton visits with Vladimir Putin while on a lucrative speaking engagement in Russia]

WikiLeaks did release emails proving collusion between fake news outlets and the Clinton presidential campaign.
2/?
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>>133586567
>What would it take to convince you that Trump colluded with Russia?
Confessions from the county officials to explain why they decided to suddenly take money from Russia instead of the DNC.
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>>133593750
In other news, pigs have begun to fly
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>>133593265
I sincerely hope I'm wrong. I truly do.
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>mfw Putin and Trump make peace in Syria, Assad regains control and the Israeli / Saudi / Democrat / RHINOs / MSM evil world domination plan is foiled once again

Keep crying bitches
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>>133593899
>Yes the OP is freelancing.
Who is paying this limp wristed faggot to get destroyed on /pol/?
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>>133593440
Why would people care who provided evidence Hillary was committing a treasonous act if it were backed up by facts and verifiable proof?
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>>133588919

>We never trained ISIS we were training rebel groups to fight ISIS.
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>>133593962
One email from Clinton campaign chair John Podesta to underlings concerned a dinner meeting to be held between members of the media elite and the Democratic presidential candidate. Among the attendees were:

ABC: Diane Sawyer, George Stephanoplous and David Muir.
CBS: Gayle King, Norah O’Donnell.
CNN: Gloria Borger, John Berman, Jeff Zucker and Kate Bouldan.
MSNBC: Jonathan Alter, Alex Wagner, Ed Schultz, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski.
NBC: Savannah Guthrie.
New York Times: Amy Chozik, Pat Healey, Jonathan Martin, Gail Collins
Politico: Glenn Thrush
This list includes only a few of the journalists who attended the “off-the-record” meeting.

Nothing ever leaked concerning the topics discussed between Hillary and her media admirers, although America’s omnipresent deep state—the NSA, CIA, et al—undoubtedly listened in.
3/?
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>>133586567
If you could be imprisoned for being ass blasted you and the entire left could clear out the whole system and there still wouldn't be room.
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>>133586567

Even if he did, collusion isn't illegal, you mung.
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>>133586567
Even if they had grounds to charge Jr with anything, they wouldn't. McCain dicked around with a British spy to get the Trump Dossier so he would be just as guilty as Jr. They won't go after Jr because it'd just swing back and hit them in the face.
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>>133594052
As North Korea’s intercontinental missiles threaten Alaska and Hawaii with nuclear annihilation, you can partially thank Russia. According to the Voice of America:

“In spite of international sanctions on North Korea’s communist regime, Russia has been increasing fuel exports to Pyongyang and filling in the supply gap created by China halting trade.”

Temple University’s associate professor in international relations, James Brown, told the VOA, “Moscow has always been worried that the defensive missiles systems that the U.S. is deploying in the region—the THADD anti-missile system in South Korea and now Japan—are more directed at its interest than North Korea.”

Focusing on the “nothing burger” of Trump-Russia collusion is designed to distract from the clear and demonstrable collusion between Hillary Clinton, fake news, Russia and its radioactive ally, North Korea.
4/?
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>>133593866
One of my favorite pasttimes was to check out hilldawgs facebook page and read the hundreds of verbal asskickings her various virtue signaling posts got on a daily basis
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>>133593938
Hue
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>>133594138
During his recent state visit to Poland, Trump announced the U.S. will sell the former Soviet slave state our Patriot anti-missile system, reestablishing a pledge made by the administration of President George W. Bush to protect Poland against Putin’s Russia. That commitment was rescinded by President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton.

While Clinton signed off on a major uranium deal for Putin’s Russia, President Trump takes steps to counteract the Russian and North Korean nuclear threats to America and her allies through a strong anti-missile defense policy.

The Trump-Russia narrative, therefore, only serves to bolster the interests of America’s enemies while threatening the safety of her people.
5/?
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>>133593344
When will Loretta "Refer to Mr. Comey's answer" Lynch testify again?
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> Russian government lawyer

It was a Russian civilian let into the country by Obama.
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>>133589183
>We never trained ISIS we were training rebel groups to fight ISIS
The "rebels" are ISUS - they have a lot of names, it's part of the kabuki and deception...
But the US founded, funded trained and directed the ISIS campaign to destroy Syria to build a pipeline to benefit Israel.
There are US State Department docs that have been circulating on the internet since 2014 explaining the role of the US and ISUS
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>>133593945
He just wanted to make his father proud, can't blame him. He doesn't deserve the slander, but he takes it on the chin like his old man
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>>133593938
>The Clinton Campaign receiving funds from Saudi Arabia 10 years ago is relevant to the 2016 election

You're deflecting
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>>133593919
Like the Russian Dossier provided by foreign agent?
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>>133593952
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/210
did you check here?
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>>133588440
Everyone at shariablue here's a hot tip:

You're all faggots, but why not get a copy paste post with links to all of "the evidence" I guarantee any point brought up about the Clintons or any other type of crime family/syndicate I could easily find a list of links with supporting evidence, not just one link and some faggot shoving a "muh Russia" dildo up their own ass
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>>133594203
>Literally CDN
http://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/hillary-russia-and-the-news-media-the-real-collusion-91250/
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>>133586567
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>>133593997
Did you forget throughout the campaign Trump repeated multiple times that we should get along with Russia? Imagine if we were tag teaming ISIS like the Hardy Boys right now instead of this weird ass shit
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>>133594314
>https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/210
Except that didn't happen. That's Quid Pro Quo, and that is illegal. When did that happen here?
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>>133594132
And notice that nobody has ever even hinted at McCain doing anything wrong. Because """colluding""" with foreign countries for oppo research couldn't be more standard.
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>>133586895
because they want to make money off of fossil fuel stocks
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>>133594036
The law isn't about people caring. We either are a nation of laws or we aren't. That's the entire idea behind enforcing immigration laws, criticizing aspects of BLM, etc.
There are legal ways to go about handling that information. I've volunteered for many bullshit local campaigns and the treasurers even in those small potatoes ones are incredibly diligent about following the laws to a "t". The prosecutorial response to "the info was legit, she committed treason" would be, "then why didn't you take it to authorities first?"
Obviously the argument would be, Obama controlled the authorities etc. While likely true, it's not a valid legal argument.
The main issue for Jr is lying on his SF. That's perjury.
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>>133594263
She never testified. She ignored her request to testify in front of congress.
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>>133594405
i never said anything happened you idiot, i only argued that collusion is illegal
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>>133594039
Do you speak arabic? Can you prove we funded that group or who they where or what side they were on? No? Then it's nothing.
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>>133589491
Crowdstrike is part of the Ukrainian connections that were working with HRC to defeat Trump.

They have a lot of "interesting" connections.
And all the people involved - hate Russia ..
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>>133594309
I referenced the hypocrisy regarding that dossier in above posts. The media using that dossier to criticize and probe Russian foreign influence is hyper meta ironic to a level that may have shifted the space time continuum.
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>>133586567
evidence.
you have none.
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>>133586828
fpbp
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>>133594398
I don't have an issue with Russia. I have an issue with other aspects up to and including being lied to. I'm not a cuck.
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>>133594301
10 years ago, so 2006, so back when Hillary was campaigning for the Democrat Primaries. Doesn't sound innocuous to me. When are you going to realize that you can't touch someone like Hillary Clinton without having the slime of politics cling to your hand? I'm also amazed that you're accusing me of deflecting, considering that it's all you've done in this thread. Remember when I pointed out to you that you showed no evidence when you said that I should be convinced that Trump colluded with Russia, to which you responded by saying that you were just trying to get me to question my beliefs?
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>>133593984

And Trumpcucks post shit to deny.

Don't worry, Trump will be fine other than being a failure who declares victory in the end - his brand.

But Mueller is digging into Trump business and banking going back DECADES. On the surface the Trump's look like greasy con-men. Trump is legit one of the most famous con-men in the history of the World.

Trump's Presidency is a nothingburger. He'll survive and get richer, but it's going to a chapter of US History FILLED with comedy.
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Just for some shiggles:
> If this post is true than I'll have to change my pin number.

>>133594444
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>>133594477
What if I told you there's an email from a top Hillary aide to Hillary that contains a Syria briefing and a note that al Qaeda is on our side in Syria??
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>>133587253
>>no they aren't
>You seriously think they're not a threat to global democracy? Did you see what they did to Ukraine and now their actions in Syria? Not to mention hacking our election.

Ukraine? You serious. Nobody told you? Russia has a hugely important army base in that area. don't remember 100%, but I believe something with it being the only ice free one for their navy in winter or something. Europe has been coming at Russia with taking over all former ussr states. Against all buffer agreements made during. They took Poland, put it full of US army, directed to Russia. And then the EU was going to take over Ukraine. The only buffer remaining. EU was gonna install itself really at the front door of Russia. Russia had no choice than protect its army base. The EU was the one coming at Russia. Russia just protected the army base lying in a piece of land they once gave to Ukraine anyway.
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>>133594263
Not sure, but something came out around the same time as the PV tapes that she was being looked into, probably why she told Comey to refer to Clintons Case as a "matter"

>>133594280
I agree, wouldn't be the first time. We funded Al-Qaida to fight against Russia as well.

It's not a coincidence that Sudan, Lybia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and eventually Iran are all Geo-political neighbors of Israel. How the public hasn't caught on, or simple do not care, is baffling.
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>>133594466
You were asked to provide a law with a proven application to this instance.
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>>133586567
Nothing would at this point you fucking retards have kicked this dead horse too many times
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>>133586895
https://youtu.be/O0flTn4IuYM
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>>133586567
Proof of an actual crime being committed is a good place to start. You get extra points if you can provide proof that said real, statutory, crime was actually committed by President Trump. Then I'll give a fuck.
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>>133588588
this
OP is a faggot and a brainwashed retard.
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>>133594734
That was acknowledged when all the troops did that protest about fighting with people in Syria who were killing their friends in Iraq.
It was very powerful imagery and if Obama didn't get the free pass, would have been news for days.
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>>133590143
>How to detect .. Someone.. who gets all his news from CNN and their rancid brethren.

aLREADY CNN and the others are "walking this one back" and memory holing pages and links...
It blew up,their own complicity with Ukraine.
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>>133594762
what instance? i never claimed trump did any collusion. i gave an example of collusion here
>>133592252
and gave you the law for it
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/210
are you retarded?
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>>133586567
We're not at war with Russia you massive faggot

What's your point?
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>>133587253

>News articles

This isnt the 80's retard you need more then fake news articles
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>>133594661
I can respect that. But I also think the Trumps know what they're doing. Time will tell, but I think its hullabaloo
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>>133594734
What if I told you that wikileaks is part of a Russian Psyop to brainwash all the Trump supporters? Looks like it's working!
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>>133594690
K pal, keep dreaming
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>>133594892
>what instance?
THIS instance, as was said. Either you don't understand the language here or you're being willfully ignorant.
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That email was entirely written by (((Rob Goldstone))) and he was proven to be lying, either intentionally or misled
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>>133594477

Yeah, I can read Arabic. I lived in Syria for a few months studying it, and longer outside. I don't see how that's relevant though.

They're (or they were) "moderate rebels" from Aleppo. One of their friends helped Western media spread the ambulance kid photos, upon which every channel started calling for a US enforced no fly zone in Aleppo.

The kid's family weren't rebels though, they were pro-Assad.
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>>133594690
>Mueller
WASHINGTON, July 13, 2017 — Former FBI Director Robert Mueller, currently Special Counsel in the Russia investigation, provided FBI computers to a secret CIA/NSA surveillance program that was launched in 2004. That program morphed into a domestic surveillance program that spied on Donald Trump and his associates.

This is according to former CIA/NSA/DIA subcontractor-turned-whistleblower Dennis Montgomery and his attorney Larry Klayman.

According to Montgomery:

“This is very, very, very powerful technology, and it was created under Robert Mueller’s watch. The last person I would think that should be investigating Donald Trump is Robert Mueller, who was collecting information on Donald Trump ten years ago … Mueller has a huge conflict of interest, a huge conflict of interest.”

Klayman, the founder of Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch, did not mince words when explaining the dangerous high-stakes maneuvering around Montgomery’s case:

“These are vicious people. These people are capable of killing people to keep this thing secret. That’s why, Congress I believe, doesn’t want to look into this. They are afraid of them too. They are more powerful than the President of the United States … This government knows no bounds.”
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>>133590181
>There's a reason that the fake news has shut up about it. The more you dig, it's the Obama people who look guilty - again. Seems you haven't got the memo to shut up about this one yet.

This is absolutely correct.
For a huge explosive "gotcha" that was supposed to bring Trump down this week..... It's fizzled like a burst ballon at a kids party ...
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>>133586567
Anyone else notice how the narrative has gone from
>Trump worked with Putin to steal the election
to
>Trump's son met with a Russian lawyer for 20 minutes

I wonder where its going next.
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>>133594995
> i never claimed trump did any collusion
reading is hard
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>>133594931
I sincerely hope you're right, because if this blows up, we have to start at the beginning again, and probably won't see another anti establishment candidate for years.

One thing I've noticed in this thread. I've been arguing against blind support for Trump throughout this thread, but not one other person arguing against that support has linked to my posts the way they did one another.
Interesting to note. I normally don't buy all the "shill!" accusations but that's odd. In the normal flow of threads, people tend to begin referencing and (you)ing posts in agreement.
Really fired my neurons.
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>>133595059
They can't touch the President thus they try the "relatives"
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>>133594882
see >>133591442
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>>133594970
The Australian professional leaker with Ecuadorian non-extradition staying in their UK embassy is secretly working for the Russians?
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We are not at war with Russia

They aren't "the enemy"

This is faggotry... is colluding with Israel treason? You'd have to execute every faggot in Congress
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>>133594970
Proof?
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>>133595040
Special Counsel Mueller’s alleged involvement in a secret surveillance program said to have targeted Trump came to light during the July 8, 2017 broadcast of the radio program “Special Prosecutor with Larry Klayman.”

According to former billionaire Tim Blixseth, whose ex-wife was Montgomery’s business partner, the CIA decided in 2009 to expand the surveillance program by dedicating $5 million in additional computer hardware.

According to Blixseth, the new equipment gave the surveillance program the far greater technical power needed for hacking into secure networks and devices.
2/?
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>>133595061
You were either supposed to or shut up, moron. Someone asked you to show a law with a relation to THIS INSTANCE. You're like a child caught in a lie.
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>>133594970
In that case I'd call you a hopelessly brainwashed cult member or shill and ignore the rest of your posts.
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>>133594690
>But Mueller is digging into Trump business and banking going back DECADES

source? Trump is not the subject of investigation. Only Kushner, Flynn and Manafort's finances are under scrutiny.
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>>133586567
Nothing could convince me. If any of this shit were real, he'd already be gone. But he's not, so your russia story is obviously very fake news
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>>133595193
On Klayman’s radio show, Montgomery discussed his claim that under Mueller, the FBI provided computers used to spy on Trump and other Americans.

Montgomery added journalists and reporters to the list of individuals and groups that he has identified as alleged surveillance targets. He also added embattled Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy. Montgomery had previously indicated that Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts and 156 judges were also surveillance targets.

Bundy, who is currently incarcerated while awaiting trial, has been under surveillance since 2003, claims Montgomery.

Klayman separately interviewed Carol Bundy, Cliven Bundy’s wife.

Montgomery said, “I remember providing information to the FBI on the Bundys in Nevada. They started collecting information on them in 2003. They collected their phone records, who they were talking with, etc.”

Klayman added:

“It was heavy-handedness by the Bureau of Land Management that was then being run by a lackey, a former corrupt Senator from Las Vegas, Harry Reid, and President Barack Obama, that were trying to take his land away from him … Dennis just revealed that the intelligence agencies were actually surveilling the Bundy family, trying to set them up, trying to destroy them. Harry Reid, then Senator from Nevada, wanted to take their land away. He was reportedly trying to sell it to the Chinese. He was working with Obama to do that.”
3/?
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>>133595205
no, you retards didnt even read what i wrote and started bitching like the autists that you are.
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>>133590186
> people die from other things, so just ignore the terrorists. It's part of big city living.

A short while back this would have been obvious sarcasm..... But with the way things are heading.... It might be actual official "policy" real soon....
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>>133595059
Ivanka? Melania? Barron? Fake News is a menace

>>133595117
I think OP really fired everyone up
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Why are Americans treating Russia like an enemy?
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>>133595182
Congress doesn't have to declare war for a country to be an enemy, which Russia is. Not everything is so black-and-white simple like you Trump supporters want it to be.
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>>133594970
I'd say there is about as much proof of that as the Russians hacked the DNC. Actual proof, not some flimsy connect the dots and if you look at it juuuuuust right navel gazing.
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>>133595284
Montgomery says that he worked on the domestic collection program not only under former FBI Director Mueller, but also under his successor FBI Director James Comey. President Trump fired James Comey on May 9, 2017.

Montgomery says that he was also tasked with surveilling innocent Americans for former CIA Director John Brennan and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. The authors previously identified audio tapes of Montgomery and Blixseth. Blixseth refers to a program called “The Hammer,” probably the CIA’s plugin implanter called HAMR, described in Wikileaks Vault 7 documents.

[Obama’s surveillance Hammer on Trump worse than Watergate]

Montgomery claims to have designed the surveillance program but decided to become a whistleblower because it was being used to conduct illegal and unconstitutional surveillance of innocent Americans. Montgomery is alleged to have submitted eighteen whistleblower complaints. On an audio tape, Blixseth said:

“He filed eighteen whistleblower complaints, with the inspector general of the Air Force, inspector general of the CIA, inspector general of the United States, (Attorney General Eric) Holder. He sent an actual letter to Obama, and to his private fax number, and how the hell he got it I don’t know … So, he got rejected eighteen times.”
4/?
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>>133595372
For the law, it is.
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>>133595372
They who or what determines a country is the enemy?
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>>133595372
>Not everything is so black-and-white simple

And yet you believe 100% that Don Jr committed collusion, despite the fact that we would only ever know if a judge or jury ruled on it in a court of law.
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>>133595374
>Actual proof, not some flimsy connect the dots and if you look at it juuuuuust right navel gazing.

LOL oh the irony. That sums up all the Trump supporters and their conspiracies
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>>133595171
>ancap flag

....
>muh liberalism
>muh democracy
You can't make this shit up folks
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>>133595385
On June 5, 2017 Montgomery and Klayman filed a federal lawsuit against the following former and current federal officials and federal agencies, named as defendants:

Barack Obama, as an individual and in his past official capacity as President of the United States;
James Comey, as an individual and in his past official capacity as former Director of the FBI;
The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI);
Admiral Michael S. Rogers, as an individual, and in his official capacity as Director of the NSA;
The National Security Agency (NSA);
John Brennan, as an individual and in his former official capacity as Director of the CIA;
Michael Pompeo, as an individual and in his official capacity as Director of the CIA;
The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA);
James R. Clapper, as an individual and in his past official capacity as Director of National Intelligence;
Dan Coats, as an individual and in his official capacity as Director of National Intelligence.
The pleadings in the lawsuits allege:

“Defendants Rogers, Pompeo, Coats, Obama, Comey, Clapper, and Brennan acted outside the scope of their employment, in their personal capacities, and through their surrogates still embedded in the Trump administration (the ‘Obama Deep State’) to illegally and unconstitutionally spy on millions of Americans, including Plaintiffs, without probable cause or a warrant.”

The case is being heard by Judge Richard J. Leon, Senior United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. Judge Leon ruled in Klayman’s favor in the landmark case Klayman v. Obama, which also concerned NSA surveillance, a ruling which was challenged on appeal by the government.
5/?
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>>133595359
It's odd, right? Not once have I been called a shill, in spite of arguing vehemently. People here are generally very good at spotting genuine posters and Im a genuine poster, so im not surprised, but it's interesting none of the other ones arguing theoretically on my "side" acknowledged any of my arguments. I suspect that's because I consistently acknowledge how filthy the Dems and Hilldawg and their foreign collusion was and is.
This must have been a focus group style dive.
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>>133595371
It's Shekelbergs and the impressionable who can't fathom MSM purposely propagating lies

If hilldawg won we'd probably be at war by now
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>>133595371
Gaslighting
Watch some cnn or msnbc sometime if you're actually curious
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>>133595303
Did you respond to the post at >>133593952? Did that post not ask you to provide a law with a proven application to this instance?

Listen, little man. You're the one who should be pretending to not have read, here.
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>>133595552
Judge Royce C. Lamberth, another Senior Federal District Judge for the District of Columbia, who struck a limited immunity agreement for Montgomery with the FBI, calls Montgomery’s and Klayman’s case “the pinnacle of national importance,” says Klayman.

Judge Lamberth, who formerly served as Chief Judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) Court, helped arrange the limited immunity deal under which Montgomery turned over 47 hard drives, alleged to be storing over 600 million pages of documentation, to James Comey’s office at the FBI on August 19, 2015.

Montgomery stated:

“I produced 600 million pages. If you printed out each page it would be thirty miles high stacked one on top of another. The information is very sensitive information. They collected google searches, credit cards, phone records, images, pictures, anything and everything, and they did it for one reason: leverage. They didn’t know when, but they knew sooner or later they would need that information to use for those leverage against a person … The amount of information is mind-boggling, and I gave all of that to FBI Director Comey’s office.”

Special Counsel Mueller hired 13 lawyers to investigate the Russia-Trump collusion, saying, “Legality has been assured” although Comey and Clapper both admitted during official congressional testimony that they had found nothing.
6/?
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>>133595535
Still seeing everything in black-and-white. Can't make anything too complicated for you all.
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>>133593430
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
needs formal declaration of war

>https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/210
in the definitions says "thing of value" refers to monetary transactions (i.e.: gold, silver, etc.)
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>>133595372
>Congress doesn't have to declare war for a country to be an enemy
It does if it wants the statutes about aiding enemies during wartime to be applicable.
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The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) used to have a different name: Al Qaeda in Iraq. After 2010 the group rebranded and refocused its efforts on Syria.

There are essentially three wars being waged in Syria: one between the government and the rebels, another between Iran and Saudi Arabia, and yet another between America and Russia. It is this third, neo-Cold War battle that made U.S. foreign policy makers decide to take the risk of arming Islamist rebels in Syria, because Syrian President, Bashar al-Assad, is a key Russian ally. Rather embarrassingly, many of these Syrian rebels have now turned out to be ISIS thugs, who are openly brandishing American-made M16 Assault rifles.
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>>133595434
>>133594996
Notice how the shill doesn't reply to any of these points.
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>>133595656
And yet you're the one that can't even consider other possible outcomes.
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>>133595563
Yea you have legitimate gripes. I've been annoyed for a long time about how trump and co unequivocally deny all Russian contact of any kind. It just sets them up for all kinds of shit like this and its a lie that doesn't help them at all. It's just stupid.
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>>133595729
How did Syria end up being the battlefield? Pipeline nonsense?
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>>133595652
Mueller previously testified under oath to Congress that all surveillance carried out by the NSA was legal:

“The challenge in a position such as I have held for the past eleven years is to balance on the one hand the security of the nation and on the other hand the civil liberties that we enjoy in this country … One of the things we do insist upon and assure is that any endeavor we undertake, addressing national security, is legal … The programs to which you refer, the legality has been assured by the Department of Justice. The FISA court … has assured the legality of the efforts undertaken in these two programs … Congress has been briefed … If the line is to be drawn differently, so be it. We would follow that to the letter of the law.”

Were there any other surveillance programs, besides the two that Director Mueller was referencing? Could “the Hammer” have been conducting domestic surveillance without the knowledge, consent, and oversight of Congress and the FISA Court?

While Mueller was FBI Director, Comey served as deputy attorney general from 2003 to 2005. Former FBI Special Agent Coleen Rowley, who claims to have met Mueller, became a whistleblower on pre 9/11 intelligence failures.
7/?
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>>133595754
Thanks for posting that well crafted summation, of course shills gonna shill and swerve away from the truth
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>>133595829
Trump was never informed about this meeting, that happened to produce absolutely nothing of substance for the Trump Campaign, but gave Obama an excuse to spy on Trump Tower, gave GPS Fusion something to add to their dossier, and gave the Democrats and excuse to reel.
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>>133595831

America’s Middle East policy revolves around oil and Israel. The invasion of Iraq has partially satisfied Washington’s thirst for oil, but ongoing air strikes in Syria and economic sanctions on Iran have everything to do with Israel. The goal is to deprive Israel’s neighboring enemies, Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Palestine’s Hamas, of crucial Syrian and Iranian support.

ISIS is not merely an instrument of terror used by America to topple the Syrian government; it is also used to put pressure on Iran.
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>>133595838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFROG-NL8AQ

Rowley claims in a video interview:
“Both of these figures, Mueller and James Comey, first of all, they became very close … Mueller and Comey both got undeserved reputations as being men of integrity … again, these two were close.”

In April 2017 the FISA Court revealed that the NSA under Obama, illegally spied on Americans, abusing their Fourth Amendment rights. The FISA Court referred to the situation as a “very serious Fourth Amendment issue.” The NSA intends to “delete the vast majority of its upstream Internet data to further protect the privacy of U.S. person communications.”

Adding injury to injury, the Obama Administration’s NSA claims to have destroyed vast quantities of evidence of their illegal surveillance. The destruction of evidence may make it impossible for those who have been damaged by the Obama Administration’s illegal actions to sue for damages. According to Klayman, “An order leaked by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) revealed that intelligence agencies were committing these crimes … Who sat on top of this?”

That, of course, was Comey at the FBI. That order revealed that Comey’s FBI was engaged in illegal surveillance. So was the NSA. So was the CIA. So was the Director of National Intelligence, which oversees these intelligence agencies.
8/8
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The last time Iran invaded another nation was in 1738. Since independence in 1776, the U.S. has been engaged in over 53 military invasions and expeditions. Despite what the Western media’s war cries would have you believe, Iran is clearly not the threat to regional security, Washington is. An Intelligence Report published in 2012, endorsed by all sixteen U.S. intelligence agencies, confirms that Iran ended its nuclear weapons program in 2003. Truth is, any Iranian nuclear ambition, real or imagined, is as a result of American hostility towards Iran, and not the other way around.

America is using ISIS in three ways: to attack its enemies in the Middle East, to serve as a pretext for U.S. military intervention abroad, and at home to foment a manufactured domestic threat, used to justify the unprecedented expansion of invasive domestic surveillance.

By rapidly increasing both government secrecy and surveillance, Mr. Obama’s government is increasing its power to watch its citizens, while diminishing its citizens’ power to watch their government. Terrorism is an excuse to justify mass surveillance, in preparation for mass revolt.
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>>133595829
Exactly! One Flynn went down, it became clear that there was some level of contact. Most Americans don't give a fuck; all they had to do was say, "when you're running for president, nuts come out of the woodwork, we are brand new to this shit and still learning the ropes. Mistakes were made, we will be happy to openly rectify them. "
In fact, by openly acknowledging it, he could then have gone full bore "let's do a presidential independent counsel to investigate all foreign involvement in presidential elections for the past 35 years."
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>>133596020
Flynn went down because he lied to Pence, astroturfing cunt.
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>>133596020
Flynn literally dindu nuffin illegal, he's just a retard
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>>133595831
That and greater Israel. Golan heights in particular. Read about it and the oil drilling rights that Israel already sold lol.
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>>133595889
It's all adding up and it's all leading back to Obama, DNC, and MSM

>>133595916
So that's why Israel doesn't want ISIS defeated and why they're never targeted. They really are Israeli Secret Intelligence Service. What is meant when it's said if ISIS is crushed, another group will Rise? Just more radical rebels being funded by the West?
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>>133596073
Also what Flynn did was *after* the election, not before. The astroturfing cunt doesn't even know what he's talking about.
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>>133595889
You may very well be correct. That's part of our gripe: if he doesn't know, just say that, not unequivaocal denials that pretty much guarantee contradiction.
The denials have been so strident as to arouse suspicion and with each subsequent revelation of contact, the very stridence begins to condemn them.

Notice I said nothing about what may or may not have actually occurred, because ultimately that's secondary. It's sad, but true.
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>>133596020
After the thing with Flynn didn't Trump ask Comey to investigate everyone for any other Russian meetings?
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>>133596141
Kill yourself, moron. You don't even know the details of the things you talk about. Stop reading headlines and actually get informed if you are genuinely interested.
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>>133596111
So he told the truth the whole time? Never lied? Good to know, because I was under the impression the arrogant faggot lied through his teeth to the Vice President of the United States.
I'm glad you cleared that up.
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>>133596206
Calma, Che. No provoques forobardo.
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Flynn was found to not have broken the law in any way shape or form

Of course, CNN won't report that

We are not at war with Russia and these faggots would have you believe diplomatic relations with another major country are treason

This shit is absolute crap.

The bitch lost. Deal with it, move on
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This is why Flynn got fired and its very shady
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article151149702.html
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>>133596310
It seems the media, deep state, dems, whoever is pushing the conspiracy, really have chosen thia as the hill to die on. But at the same time the slingshot theory is real. The only question is how hard is it going to bite them in the ass
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Nothing burger bump
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>>133596206
Sure thing, because details matter to the American people over appearances of impropriety. Thank God you cleared that up.
That said, I do know the details and every week they get worse. Jr lied on his security clearance paperwork. That's a big fucking deal here, especially when it's about the one topic his father has been getting crushed on in the press. Trump has elevated his kids to positions of trust and so the American people obviously have a right to assume they can be trusted.
That's the root of this latest issue.
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>>133587238
This, it's total bullshit.
>B-BUT RUSSIUH HACKED MUH EMAILS
Lol, the attorney had been given a free pass by Obama. Email written by ((((Goldstone)))),
god OP you are mentally challenged.
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>>133586567
collusion is when people conspire to cheat or deceive. this damaging information isn't fake info made to trick voters. it isnt an embarassing picture of hillary. its proof of her committing a crime. its not illegal to prove to voters hillary is corrupt.
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>>133596457
Their hill to die on is nuclear war.
We all die
Just think about that

These people shilling for millions of deaths are actually fucking evil
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>>133595656
So far left your nearly right.
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>>133595028
The group were al zinki.
They were one of John Kerry's per "moderate" terrorists and were supported, funded and equipped by the US.
After they cut off that 11 year old Palestinian boys head, Josh Earnest, Obamas spokes-slut refused to condemn what they'd done, and refused to say the US would stop supporting them.
The ones seen in the pic are also part of White Helmets. They cut that boys head off one week, and - cynically - were hailed by western media the very next week as "Heros" of Syria.
If people on these threads *really* understood what the US was doing in these countries.....
I'm sure they'd make it stop.
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>>133595371
>Why are Americans treating Russia like an enemy?

Conditioning.
50 years of propaganda and Orwellian "War is Peace" will yield that result.
BUT..... Despite all the years and unrelenting "selling" of Russians as the enemy..... Many ordinary Americans just want to get along with Russia....
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>>133595552
That's...... Courageous of those dudes...
Given the Clinton body count, I hope they take care..... No committing suicide with two bullets to back of head, !
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>>133595662
>>Congress doesn't have to declare war for a country to be an enemy

Unfortunately that is where the US is now..
Having ignored international law -- it now believes it can start hostilities against any country any time for any "reason".
Trump sending tomahawk missiles into Syria in April, killing civilians, was so war crime.
But that is OK in 2017 America .
No one give a shit.

THAT would have been an impeachable offence 50 years ago...
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>>133598648
You can thank obongo for that one
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