why do people think they are communist

or not

>>133582534
i kill communists for breakfast

default anti-capitalists

yea but that does not make you a communist alsoi dont get it how they destroy shit and get away with it

>>133582534
>I am a communist
kill yourself

no deal with it

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>>133582534
They are Anarcho-Communists.

>>133582631

Hey were you the guy who was posting in Afghanistan like a year ago telling me not to ride a motorcycle from Mez to Peshawar?

so Anarcho-Communists. are 16 year old special snow flakes who want to destroy shit nice.

also no i did not post some afghan stuff

>>133583344
No, but thats good advice.

never mind wrong number to lazy to check like 90%

>>133582534
They are communist because just like your Ilk they use violence to forcibly take from those who work to produce and then claim to use the taken goods to help others, but in the end we know it just goes to themselves. They unironicly wave the Soviet flag, while insulting America in all her beauty. They are communist in that they see no distinction in property until it is 'their' possessions. They are communist in that they believe themselves to be the most correct while bringing about their own destruction. They call themselves revolutionaries while promoting a system of rule through force without merit or justice, save for what they deem to be merit or justice in the hour. They are communist, for they declare themselves such while waving your symbols and promoting your ideals.

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socialism doesnt work

> look what Hitler accomplish faggot

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>>133583506
>a communist
>to lazy
surprise surprises

>>133582534
They are self-identified Communists. We don't try to pretend that Islamic terror movements "have nothing to do with Islam" when third parties try to say so, why would this case be any different?

>>133583254
> all these people were shot or shipped to labor camps

feels good man

>>133583704
You're right, this grand Reich we've been living under since the 1940's is pretty gre...oh wait, that's right; Hitler's little war wound up with Germany being massively cucked.

yea it just sucks because they are not and communism is going downhill because these 16 year old kids want to break shit

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Communism has progressed thanks to SJWs.

This is the new face of communism.

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>>133583969
>communism is going downhill
Communism is the lowest fucking low in the history of humanity. To quote a great robot, "Communism is the very definition of failure"

>>133582534
Then you need to take that up with them chiefy. They use the anarcho communist banner and have recently taken to wearing bandanas with the sickle and hammer. They are backed by groups like BAMN who are overtly communist lawyers at the top and paid agitators at the bottom.

no the ideas of communism where made in a time when it was good and would have worked better but now because of so much company's and govs being pc like canadas its hard

>>133584291
No they weren't. Communism has always been a bad idea, which is why it fucking failed every time it was attempted and led to the largest atrocities in human history. From the gulags to the killing fields, all the combined suffering of more than a hundred million people couldn't even keep communist states from failing or adopting capitalistic systems.

Has a communist ever made a post on /pol/ that was not disgustingly pathetic?

when capitalism has caused over 25 million people to go in poverty but because of us propaganda people dont know shit they just go with it

>>133584782
>maybe my ideology has caused the systematic murder of 100 million people and oppressed countless more but capitalism made 25 million people poor in the US where the government takes care of them anyways

>>133584782
Oh no! Oh heavens! Lawdy lawdy! "25 million" people in poverty. Oh the humanity!

Go tell that the the hundred million who were were killed in political purges or worked to death. Communism is a death cult.

>>133584782
>>133585001
All of which, by the way, were in poverty.

people have to die for things to change war is the greatest motivators of science so that could be a good thing but still 100 million people is not that much

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>>133584782
>when communism kills twice that many and then some
Checkmate, faggot.

not really killing more does not make it bad or worse

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>>133585151
>Literal retardation

Well, I hope you start your war soon so we can kill 100 million commies and finally rid the world of your cancerous ideology. Until then, kindly go fuck yourself.

>>133585151
>>133585465
This ladies and gentleman, is a pure display that all communists are psychopaths.

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>>133585151
>>133585465
1. You have no moral high ground
2. You have no winning logical arguments
3. You have no examples of your system ever working
4. Human nature laughs in the face of all of your theories
So what do you have?

when russia has the most nukes and china is allies with them so i dont think a war will start usa does not want to get nuked by 2 other super powers

leon trosky look him up if you want to see it working

>>133585597
holy shit this

>>133585680
Post your hand with a timestamp
Also, what is your iq?

>>133585465
This is why every country that has adopted communism is a shithole 3rd world country or bordering 3rd world country.

>>133582534
Lmao you don't know how to reply.

They are Marxist. Usually because they have been influenced by Marxist teachings or sentiments, usually from systems that (usually Crypto) Crypto-Marxists have worked their way up through over the decades.
Marxism is a literal precursor to Communism, it is a framework in which Communism can be achieved.
These people pretty much are Marxists (basically commies).

You are probably confused because they are "Cultural Marxists"

It's why these 'commies' are still walking contradictions to communism. The classic 'I hate capitalism - posted from my Iphone.
It's not a actual way or life or sometimes even a genuine goal, it's usually just Cultural and it's popular because of things like 'Group Identity'.

People naturally seek things they can identify with. Egocentric people are incapable of identifying on a genuine level with other people. They are self absorbed naturally through no fault of their own.
They must seek identity bonds with others via mutual groups of people. The broader, more open and accepting, the better for them.

china

true

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>>133585738
Leon Trotsky was killed by one of Stalin's secret agent goons. Elaborate on how anything he did worked, given the fact he never implemented anything.

he was in the October revolution and look at his ideas

>>133583167
Not only has ANTIFA hosted communist rallies with signs, people and quotes all about with prominent speakers such as Jeremy Corbin there to speak, they also have, in the case of the Berkeley Riots notably, always been the group to paint Hammer and Sickles with either death threats or Das Kapital/Manifesto quotes

>>133583435
They dont get prosecuted because the cities they destroy are run by ANTIFA members. Check out Berkeley for example and ANTIFA in Deutschland is funded by the government

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You must be trollin, there's so many vids of Antifa defending communism.

ANTIFA does not even fight fascism i dont even know why they are here on earth they just break shit with a reason

also i mean true communism not the ones made up by them

>>133586243
Trotsky got killed and his ideas were immediately taken over by a dictator. You seem to think this is not the fault of the shitty ideas of communism, even though communism always leads to despotic rule. It's almost like putting the entirety control of society under a central body is conducive to creating horrible, powerhungry tyrants.

>>133582534
If you live in the USA of course the antifa don't know shit about communism
These are just edgy teenagers hiding behind political shit or hysterical whores

>I'm a Communist
Stopped reading right there because clearly you threw your brain in the bin a long time ago.

well i hate Stalinist so i mean i agree with you guys on the gulags and shit he did some fucked up stuff

also antifa is a terrorist organization i dont see how other people think other wise

>>133586502
True communism's policies were defined by the Frankfurt School through leading Jewish Marxist intellectuals of the appropriate era such as Horkheimer and Adorno. Their policies were carried out to the tee by Stalin

>>133586698
a few posts up you tried to justify murdering 100 million people

>>133582534
Kys and I'll tell you

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Like rly friendo Antifa all bout dat Gulag.

https://youtu.be/xPTwF4w0gOI?t=16s

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k

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>>133583254

They shouldn't call themselves anarchist either since anarchist initiate violence only in self defense not against people with different opinions.

>they should be called bolshevicks and shot in the face with a shotgun from point-blank range ISIS-style

also i justifyed murdering people but did Stalin kill all 100 mil no so i can still hate Stalin for what he did or how he did it

>>133584993

kek

usa

>>133586972
this is seriously some of the dumbest stuff I have ever read, half the time you don't make sense.
You also pointed to China as a successful communist country (despite them not being "real" communist anymore), even though Mao was as bad or worse than Stalin.
But a bunch of kids who light trash cans on fire are the real terrorists.

I wan't to believe you're trolling because someone who can change their memeflag to a commie should know how to reply to someone.

well thats for you to decide

so most likely

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>>133586447
This is why I refuse to call them Antifa, call them what they are.
Black Bloc.
They are a politically motivated group that gets along with progressives because they are of the same group identity seeking people.
The world is very left and right. We use to never have serious existential threats from people who where socially and culturally on the left. Caring people aren't always egocentric or bad and honestly I can understand why a system of government that could in theory (but unfortunately theory alone) produce a Utopia would sound appealing. These people are simply indoctrinated by the Crypto-Marxists.

true

>>133587745

black bloc is just a tactic. like insurgency or guerrilla warfare. it can be used by anyone at protests.

I have watched many rallies with Antifa in them, damn never every time they are Communist and carry the communist flag. As far as the US goes, almost all the Antifa are communist.

you know whats fun getting yelled at because you said 1 thing that they dont agree with i love that

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>>133585465

God dammit, kid. More people dying doesn't make it worse? Please take a second to say those words out loud nice and slow and just hear yourself. Nobody is saying the US doesn't have problems. Nobody is saying that any society ever hasn't had problems. The argument for capitalism and against communism, however, as revealed in history is that all variables accounted for, capitalism has done better in nearly every respect. Even in successful socialist countries, they are invariably supported by elements of capitalism.

They say capitalism has only done well because of the extortion of the poor. Every society has had poor who have worked very hard yet have been unreachable by beneficial government intervention and welfare, communism much more so than capitalism. The vast majority of extremely poor being "extorted" by the United States are from Communist countries (China).

It's just such a bad argument, and deceptively pseudo-virtuous to say "there's enough to go around, everyone could be fed", when 99/100 people who'd say that don't do anything to give to charity, either with their time or with donations. Are YOU doing everything you can to give? Then what the fuck are you doing expecting others to make it happen for you?

>>133582534
>I am a comm

KYS

>>133583969
Learn how to reply its bothering my autism

>>133585769
probably 80 since he's a communist... annnd doesn't know how to reply on 4chan

when you want to join in on the debate dont just say i am a comm then say KYS also no i will not

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>>133586594
>hysterical whores

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your not you when your hungry

>>133587745

Hmm... there are some serious problems with that infographic. Just the fact that it's only dealing with left/right without including an axis for libertarian/authoritarian makes it prone to misleading claims. Like saying that being left means interfering with social lives and society. That would be the assumption that the left is inherently more authoritarian which is not how I understand the term (although it does seem often that leftists are more authoritarian than they realize but I wouldn't define the concept by correlations such as that). Also, I think that to say that Equity is on the right and Equality is on the left is completely backwards. Relationship built on respect and fear? That's a value of the "right"? That's just ridiculous. Yeah, not a fan how David McCandless and Stefanie Posavec set this up.

>>133588038
Usually Anarchist associated already, so that rules out most normal people anyway.
No surprise why the puppet masters like it and the branding strategy.
>>133587814
>t. faggot

>>133587438
They most certainly are real communists, they represent a memetic pattern of continuously distilled extreme marxism, refined generation by generation. Ideas are hard to cure.
But yeah this person is probably having a LARP.
Doesn't dismiss the real threat of the Marxist Teachers or the like infecting every systemic aspect, especially systems like education that hit close socially and culturally.
Ironically in this case a couple Jews ARE responsible lmao, but I doubt they are the current real existential threat.
>>133586710

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nice

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>>133588860
nigger click the users number when you want to reply to them, it is worse than your ideology to see you not do it

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>>133588860
You may be beyond help, but here's an excommunist describing what it was like to be one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqhWpBxiK0c&t=4s

Please have a listen and sort yourself out

>>133588730

That is correct. All I'm saying is that, as a tactic, it has no morality. It depends on the people who are using it, either for a good cause or a bad one. Associating it with any group will make it dependent to that group actions and morality.

The point is, I like it and I don't want it to be associated with fucking antifa.

https://youtu.be/PDoibcCzXKk

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i will listen to it

>>133589244

also see

>>133589058

>>133589303
fine there you go

>>133589416
thank fuck

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>>133589581
ikr

sad

>>133582534
Get out of these shill threads.
there are major happenings

>>133589756
listen to this series of videos as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkNzYttjSHE&t=180s

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>>133582534
Kill yourself as soon as possible

>>133582534
I think they are motivated by same moral estimations.

They believe that equality of outcome is good.

no i will not kill myself also why does every one say that as there first point like nice 9 grade humor

>>133587745
>left family
>built on respect and trust
wat? you mean built on indoctrination, nothing else

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>>133590145
Okay bud, the reason behind it is two fold. First its that you refuse to show the common curtesy to reply to us properly, second is that your ideology has been argued to death and back and has been picked to shreds but every time its done we always see the usual script of "but it was not REAL Communism"


I would gladly have a grander debate with you if you even bothered to follow the local customs i.e. "when in Rome, do as the Romans do"

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>>133590145
>humor
Implying

when did i say its not real communism show me>>133590334

>>133588726
Equity is also associated commonly with justice.
Equality of opportunity I think may also be described as a form of equity, also while you do still see Egalitarian Cucks (and I use the word cuck sparingly) defend Equality it's a majority left goal and women don't usually walk down with you into 'equality of opportunity' for a reason, especially these 'alt-right' women personalities.
Interfering can mean or refer to a number of things, state authoritarian interference would be weird but trying to challenge traditional views is decidedly left. Extreme personal liberties, broadening of thinking and inclusivity etc. - These are all usually contradictory to Traditionalism which is typically made of Right.
You might misunderstand respect and fear. This is not political domestic terrorism.
It's more like Respect for Authority and Systems of Hierarchy (Hierarchy is a male social system btw, completely necessary for early human co-operation and survival).
Fear of: Punishment , consequence, responsibility, said authority and things like judicial systems.
Why a axis? This graph is about a two types of thinking (and how they play into politics I guess), not necessarily political alignment at all.
Although if you fit on say the 'Right' mindset group of people it's reasonable to say you are likely to end up Right the more politically you get involved and grow as a person.
Trees lean the more they grow and fall the way they lean.
Also seriously no self cucking by being a Egalitarian. Unless you are a female it makes no sense.
If you are stop, don't capitulate to women.
Men at some point needed to work as linearly as possible to survive. Women had the freedom to develop complex social systems they can naturally recognize and play with for power, female social groups only APPEAR to lack leadership positions.

Equity and equality of opportunity is the true way. Attempting to make unequal things equal is the greatest inequality.

>>133590413
You didn't but it is a general response you see since we have a fuck ton of socialists and communists show up doing this exact thread all over again.

So lets start with one of the most obvious issues with communism, it leads to massive inequality and power grabs as to make this great wonderland you give it to these totally not gonna be authoritarian dictators people who then in turn rape the country for decades to come. In the goals of Communism the human suffering through the 20th century was as an interesting high point within these regimes, the Communists like to push for it because they think human nature is either indifferent to Communism or can be overcame (many don't even think about it though if we are being exact).

I may be tired but i can hold on this conversation for a bit, i greatly recommend you look at the works of Yuri Bezmenov (former KGB and man who worked the campaigns to subvert outer countries).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fQoGMtE0EY

>>133590413

This kid doesn't deserve the attention. We've all had this shitty discussion already.

>>133585680
It doesn't matter if Russia has 5 billion nukes and USA only has 20,000.

It only takes one nuke to destroy a city.

You seem keen on death and destruction

i agree with you it does lead to massive inequality i started this thread about ANTIFA with communism in there and it branched out it does lead to bad shit

>>133582534

Antifa's are fascist communist.

also its called mutual agreed destruction also you are taking that out of context>>133590990

>>133590232
Self nurturing is like code for egocentric when you get that far politically.
>>133590413
Can we hatefuck yet? Posts tits or gtfo.

yea i know ANTIFA is just bad >>133591063

>>133582534
Before you answer this thread, make sure that you have enough space behind your desk for your chair. There is nothing worse than not having enough space behind your chair. Would you rather have that space in front of your desk or behind it where your chair is? Tell you what, take the space for the chair. I moved up my desk just yesterday, and my life has improved exponentially. I now have enough space for my chair, and I can scoot up my screen if I want to sit back and relax.

>>133591088
You think communism is a great thing. Why is half of China in abject poverty and there is no empathy for living things out there? That's your beautiful communism in motion.

threads about communism are always the same story over and over again
>one communist kid (troll?) spewing incredibly retarded views
>bunch of anons explaining the world to the kid
>the kid responses with even more retarded bullshit
>thread goes on and on

i dont like maoism so now your point is invalid >>133591224
also sure>>133591189

true >>133591288

fuck i have been here for 2 hours what am i doing with my life

>>133591597
Go get a well paying job and then open a business with what your passion in life is.

I should be going to sleep myself.

ok will do >>133591680

hi, my teacher also sent me here to mess with the white supremacists, I see why now, they're pretty terrible people

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>45 posts by this ID
m8 you know there's a problem when your responses are literally almost half of the thread.

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>>133591779
(You)

i dont watch anime

>>133590608
Equality =/= Equity.
Equality = Equality of Opportunity
Equity = Equality of Outcome = What the left is about atm and is commonly associated with SOCIAL justice which =/= justice.


I see you're investing a lot of energy into ironing out poor phraseology, and I still don't think it does justice to the differences between right and left. For example, on fear: Distilling such a term as 'fear' out of the recognition of consequences and responsibility does a horrendous injustice to those values.

Interfering in this case is certainly referring to interference by public policy, not armchair philosophy. Extreme personal liberties is not left or right, it's Libertarian (as opposed to authoritarian). "Broadening of thinking" and "inclusivity" are vague terms which have interpretations on both sides of the spectrum.

Why are you saying that Left/Right are ways of thinking removed from political alignment? Even Wikipedia will tell you "The left–right political spectrum is a system of classifying political positions, ideologies, and parties."

>>133591288

yeh

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>>133591597

communism is shit and will never work fuck off cunt

>>133592124
I meant equity in the way the justice system is run, blind justice and all that. (unfortunate precedents and the like have the sway they currently do).

That makes sense. If I was to redo this graph i'd assume negative reinforcement would make more sense.

Unfortunately I was picturing when interference by policy wasn't quite so noticeable? annoying? Inconvenient? the isms sure have schism'd politics.

I was referring to the graph and thinking about how it has categorized how people are brought up / end up / behave and how the two sides of politics act.
I was more focused on other implications of it because i'm interested in behavior. I just can't look at politics and not ask, why is it like this.

Why the Cringe flag? Sargon of a cuck.