Is it possible to be both Right-Wing and atheist?

Yes, Christianity is a bluepill

>>133569279
Let me ask you, why do you think it shouldn't be possible ?

Yeah

>>133569279
No not really, in the end all atheist are leftist and will be either force converted or put in a work camp in occupied canada

>>133569668
occupied Canada? wat

>>133569763
Designated slave state.
That's your future.

>>133569593
Is there a single white atheist country that is Right-Wing?
The closest I can think of is the Czech Republic but I'm not even sure that counts.

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>>133569279
religion is shit but Jesus is awesome.
totally different things.

>>133569279
i am both

fight me faggots

Mussolini was an atheist most of his life.

welcome to objectivism!!

youtube yaron brook!

its a party!!

>>133569279
right wing sure, but you cannot be traditionalist without some semblance of religion in your heart

>>133570093
That's absolutely irrelevant.
That's not how political compass works. Sure, theists generally tend to lean more to the right on social issues but that doesn't mean just being religious makes you right wing.

Same goes for atheists being left wing.

>>133569279
In a left-wing Athiest and I don't see why not.

>>133570562
How many atheists are socially conservative/traditionalist? Maybe that's a better question, but that seems to be more Right Wing I guess. It would probably be extremely rare among them.
>>133570529
Objectivists are generally socially liberal

God/Morality is what anchors rightists. Without God, you're compassless.

>>133569279
Yes, I am.

Atheism is a yuge redpill but most atheists seem to replace religion with leftism and degeneracy.

>>133570751

Conservative/traditional atheist here, and in Washington state to boot. But yes, we are exceptionally rare.

>>133570529
/thread

>>133570904
god is a mental disease

>>133569279
yes, religion is a crutch

>>133569279
Yes, but statistically, it's much less likely. Atheists tend to overwhelmingly embrace progressivism and other good goy bullshit. They also tend to have extremely low birth rates, and so atheism is a "self-correcting" flaw.

I know there are a decent number of pagans in the far-right, and I have no problem with them or their beliefs. However, I have to imagine that some fraction of them are basically just atheists who don't like the label of atheism (because it's associated with progressive faggots, as mentioned above) and so they use paganism as a sort of identification for "right wing atheism" essentially. Again, I don't have any problem with the pagans. I just speculate that this may be the case. There are probably a ton of self-proclaimed christians who don't really believe but like to see themselves as crusaders too. I don't know.

>>133570751
atheist who sees value in christian traditions here, although I'm more of deist, I believe there's probably some set social / natural structure, and christianity is pretty close to what it is

>>133569593
Being right wing requires a belief that there is an Objective right and wrong, not a relativistic one. It is philosophically impossible for an Objective right and wrong to exist unless God exists to make it so. If you do not believe in God, while you can still behave in a moral fashion, you will always be susceptible to moral relativity.

>>133571317
>> (("self-correcting"))

A while back the feminists and left wing cucks tried to highjack the atheist movement into atheism+. Basically atheism + social justice. It was absolute cancer and the whole atheist movement fragmented and fell apart because of it. I'd say there's your proof that not all atheists are leftists.

>>133569279
Agnostic conservative tree hugger here and I'm starting to understand why religion might be useful to keep the Huns out and prop up civilization. But, I really don't think I can swallow the Christianity pill. Can't I just have the morals without the kneeling?
Can I not pursue my own path of righteousness? My own Hero's Cycle? Throw some reading material at me.

>>133571797
I disagree. We can find objective right and wrongs through logic. It's a very twisty path and needs to be ultra-specific but it's entirely possible.

Example: it's objectively wrong to murder people, since all of us want to live in a society where people don't murder each-other.

I hate the idea of relativism, as you may as well throw out morality out the window.

>>133569279
>democratic stars on their logo
>right side up
>republican ones?...
>HURR WE DA RELIGION WING
Say hi to old Ettore Ovazza for us

>>133573555
Keywords are moral philosophy. Kant, Nietzsche go over it, Kant if I recall is the objectivist, Nietzsche of course being a nihilist, but he uses that as a jumping off point to say we should find standards other than morals for society.

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Conservative libertarianism allows me to pursue my arcane and unholy research.

>>133569279
No.

Right Wing requires an acknowledgment of spirit.

>>133569279
Yes, atheism is far more redpilled than any Abrahamic religion.

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>>133569279
Mussolini was LEFT WING. He was an ardent marxist who edited Socialist newspapers. Look him up in Wikipedia.

>>133569279
maybe for a time, but these things will diverge eventually. either you will drift away from right wing politics or you will find god.

>>133571797
No, you just have to believe that some moral systems are better than others.

>>133575063
red-pilled is overused and has lost all meaning in this case

>>133575122
Such a fucking leaf comment. Mussolini was based.

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Yes. Sand nigger cultists aren't even human, so they can't be right wing.

>>133575523
It's a descriptor word. Sure, it's as overused at something like "edgy" but that's not the point.
Thing is, if you research Christiany theology only you might think that it's redpilled, but once you go meta (i.e. start researching religions overall) your worldview might shatter at one point.

>>133570751
>How many atheists are socially conservative/traditionalist?

Right here pham

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>>133575738
Moderns are arrogant enough to assume that they and only they are aware that there are many competing religions. Christian scholars have been aware of this since the beginning. It's atheists with absolutely no understanding of history who believe that they have just now realized this.

>>133569279
Is it possible to believe life has purpose while believing life doesn't have a purpose? Also, I have yet to see an atheist that is socially conservative.

>>133576387
That's irrelevant.
Religions are mostly ideological and ideologies tend to acknowledge other ideologies and use them as leverage.

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>>133569279
Definitely

>>133569279
Christianity is a bluepill you retarded christcuck

>>133576539
>Religions are most ideological
What do you mean? Are you just using "ideology" in the broadest sense possible? Do you mean religions are some kind of false construct meant to prop up other beliefs (e.g. the status quo)? This is also silly - presently in America, and especially in Europe, ardent Christians find themselves opposed to the status quo.

>>133570904
Without god people would probably take you a little more seriously

Read Nietzsche.
Atheism leads to Nihilism.
>>133570123
This.

>>133576890
>>133576539
Also, it needs to be said that this is precisely Feuerbach's argument - and also Marx's. But go ahead and tell me more about how you're red-pilled.

>>133569279
Sure is. I'll fight tooth and nail for every conservative value, except religion and cops. Basically means I just hate non whites, communism, and big government

>>133576890
>Do you mean religions are some kind of false construct meant to prop up other beliefs (e.g. the status quo)?
What is Catholicism and Holy See?

>Also, it needs to be said that this is precisely Feuerbach's argument - and also Marx's. But go ahead and tell me more about how you're red-pilled.
Cheap trick. As much as I dislike Marx if he said 2 plus 2 equals 4 I would not argue with. Broken clock is still right twice a day etc etc.

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>>133577177
>hating cops
wow leaf no wonder

>>133577231
The Catholic Church is the church founded by Peter at the behest of the Lord himself. I'm not sure how this is "ideological". Sure, you can argue the doctrine of papal infallibility, for instance, is ideological in some sense, but the faith itself? This is nonsense.

As for Marx, it's important to realize you're making a standard reductionist argument all-too-common to degenerate modernity. Oh, x is not really x, it's actually y. It's the same principle that gives us false consciousness arguments. It's the very same principle, in other words, bandied about by SJWs today. It is a principle of the degenerate West, not the West we must save.

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>>133569443
this tbqh

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One need not be a Christian, but to not accept an idea of a God/eternal truth, you cannot be a NatSoc/Fascist

Can you be a generic right-winger? Yeah I guess. But it is a pathetic and sad worldview

>>133574419
>Nietzsche of course being a nihilist
This hurts to read, but yes pertaining to your point FN did not accept that "morals" as we know them are based on anything meaningful. Nietzsche grappled with Nihilism, and often argues from the point of view of a Nihilist
>Okay Spinoza, Kant, or whoever, what does all this matter to someone for whom none of this matters, and what do you have to give that is better than that which can be attained through logic and reason?
But he saw Nihilism as a rut to climb out of . He was sort of a proto-Existentialist.
/autism

>>133570562
A shitload of atheists are politically liberal.

>>133578006
Nietzsche opposed nihilism in some sense, sure. But he thought only one's own power could defeat nihilism. In an "objective" sense, so to speak, he certainly was a nihilist. But that leaves us with a choice. Do we trust our own wills, believing we can create the world however we like? This is the argument of radical gender theorists and other idiotic social constructionists today. Or do we accept that there is an order to the world beyond us, into which WE must fit ourselves? Obviously, I say the latter.

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>>133569279
No.

>>133577036
I'm an objectivist Athiest.
Athiesm=/=Nihilism.

>>133570751
almost all of the old school skeptics community is both atheistic and generally right wing leaning.

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>>133569443

No

Right wing needs a lot of feelings and emotions to articulate and that can only come from inherent believe in a higher being

>>133570904

Conservatism is older than God.

>>133570093
There is also Hungary. 30% are irreligious yet 80% vote for right-wing parties.

I personally am agnostic and nationalists. There is this thing called etnicity and it is not something relative.

Yes. "Right-Wing" is a catch-all term for various ideologies, which are, by definition, materialistic. There's no "right-wing" or "left-wing" Catholicism, for instance, there are just people who follow the church's tradition and those who propagate modernism, left and right. Maybe you should try some of the gnostic heresy Evola spewed since it influenced fascism.

>>133569279
Yep look up the creativity movement.

>>133577036
One must face and overcome Nihilism in order to achieve true enlightenment.

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>>133569279
Just do this.

>>133570283
Same. I identify as culturally Christian though.

What does being conservative have to do with religion or belief in god or the supernatural?

You do realize that at a certain point all of the current religious beliefs were heretical and denounced as anti-conservative?

Conservative political beliefs being attached to the religious is a new invention in American politics. It was done strategically when the democratic party abandoned the religious during the civil rights movement. People forget that the left wing used to be racist religious bigots.

In any case, evangelical politically active christians are degenerate in every way. They don't truly practice what they preach, or what they judge others for, or what they try to enshrine in law. It's a giant hypocritical show so that they can feel good about themselves and brag to their neighbors.

In a true right wing movement we would crush these degenerates.

Yes, the right allows for the unhindered releasd of information on touchy topics such as race, as well as openly stating thst not all people are equal (socially and physicallg speaking) and that those who are more efficient at utilizing their resources should not be shackled by any foolish "muh equality" ghe right provides a strong paternal image of people taking on hard responsibilities to better themselves. They also know that you cant have a peaceful society without killing or disabling the people who attempt to destroy or undermine it. The right allows athiests to pursue a goal that they feel is worth it, bigger than themselves, and still holds true to objectivity and empirical evidence.

>>133569279
I am right wing atheist.
But at same time I think religion is necessary to keep masses on right track.
I also think that most of priests throughout history have always been atheists.
I also think this is most fedora thing I've ever written.

>>133581629
The main thing with religion in the west is that it goes farther then just believing in god but establishes a tradition that unties the people in society and a common norm that people live by. I still believe that it should not be push onto others in schools though and should be culturally presented to people.

>>133569279
Depends on what you mean by athiest.

I align with conservative values almost across the board, but the shitskin god that all Christians and kikes worship is based off a bunch of desert bullshit. I'm still searching with an open mind for the truth. That's the redpill.

>>133569279
Can confirm.

But thanks to the jews, it is exceedingly rare to find someone who both wants to think for themselves and yet not be a complete hedonist.

I am an Atheist that burns bibles on the daily for bonfires.
I am republican.

Atheism just means you don't believe in a religion. Doesn't mean you can't have good morals. Nothing needs to be beaten into you as a kid, or grow up in a christian home either. Some people like me learn from growing up in bad homes, or just crappy life experiences.

Atheist, Republican, and I could give a fuck less about "Letting everyone love the way they want"

of course it is, Jesus you don't even really have to ask

how much did Pinochet mention religion? hardly at all

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>>133569279

Yes.

Separation of Church and State is the White Man's institution.

t. Fedora tipper who would personally kill every last Communist if only I had the bullets

>>133571797
But does your God really exist tho?

I mean, if your god is fake, then your morality isn't really "objective" is it??

In that case, it's just subjective morality with spiritual candor.

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>>133582462
Nothing is more spiritual and pure then blind faith.

>>133582283
Ouch. Did the libtard SJWs hurt your fee-fees, Nathan?

>>133582074
>burning holy books of any group to be an edgemeister
>good morals
nah m8

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>>133569279
Your question should be "Is it possible to be both Right-Wing and Christian".

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Final redpill is understanding Christianity and every other religion is for fucking niggers and Republicucks. the entire idea of a "master race" is based from an evolutionary understanding anyway.

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>>133582592

Their very existence infuriates me. If you lived around them, you'd understand why.