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EX MUSLIM HERE, ASK ME ANYTHING

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born and raised in a muslim family and community, pretty much an insider

became an atheist, so yeah, shoot away
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>>133547995
Reason for leaving?
Sect?
Do they know?
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>>133547995
What do you think of the story in the Quran where it says that Muhammad was covered in Semen? Made me spit coffee when I first read the book.
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>>133547995
How do most of your Mohamedan peers of your generation feel about Islam? Are they becoming increasingly disillusioned?
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>>133547995
How many people from that previous life do you think would want to see you executed for apostasy (people you know personally, not talking about the hundreds of millions who would if they heard about you)?
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I left Islam so that I could gain Asylum in the US

eat my ass cunts lmao
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>>133547995
Are you guy into guys? I want a top muslim bf. I hear you guys are real rough when you fuck. Is it true?
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>>133547995
are you gay?
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hey faggots, sorry i was AFK i was getting myself some dank food

anyways,

>>133548162

they dont know, i mean my family doesn't know since my father is quite religious and it would cause unnecessary conflict if i told him. i left since i had increasing trouble reconciling the islamic faith with my own common sense.

>>133548288

hahaha what the fuck are you talking about??

>>133548523

well it really depends. most of my peers would say for themselves that they are muslim, however they do not practice (since its fucking hard as fuck to practice islam), and some even do certainly haram shit like smoke weed, drink alcohol, and still think of themselves as muslim.

>>133548649

believe it or not it is very likely none, since people in my country dont go that far in their religion. if you asked muslims around here about the death penalty for apostasy, a lot of them wouldn't even know wtf ur talking about, and those that do know, they would go on to argue the point of that punishment, and what it would mean today, i actually know the argument they use, but you know, its apologetics. anyways, where i come from, probably none of them would want me to be killed.

>>133548748

ugh, i dont understand why america accepts anyone that doesnt think the west is the best (not related to you tho)
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>>133550470

ask ur mother. destroyed her cunt last night. only fucking women tho

>>133550843

nope, love pussy just as much as the next motherfucker
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>>133551267
What if I crossdress just for you to sexually ravage me. You can call me names, spit on me, etc.
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>>133551733

nah strictly girls only
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>>133547995
What part of uk you from?
Yorkshire?
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>>133552354

not from UK my nignog. uk is cool, never been tho. you like monty python? only fools and horses is fckin legendary XDDD
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>>133547995
Can't you be a good Muslim and marry your cousin
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>>133547995
Why did you cuck to degenerate western atheism?
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>>133547995
>thinking anyone here gives a fuck about some pakis opinion on anything
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>>133547995
when the stoning begins
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BASED EX MUSLIM XD
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>>133551127
Did you get hummus?
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>>133552709
I do
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>>133552590

nah

>>133552696

hey quick tip, stop calling anyone that has different opinions from you a (((cuck))). i became an atheist because i dont need to look for my purpose nor for my morality in some fucking god. especially in a god that forbids me shit. i dont need a god to help me cope with the hell life is. generally, religion is factually incorrect, if you apply logic, you cannot prove it, and the burden of proof lies on religion. therefore, people believe it since it makes them feel safe and good. religion is a fucking drug, i'd rather have the harsh truth of life than believe in some god nigger shit. XD

>>133552709

well how about you fuck off from this thread then
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>>133552815

dont even know what the fuck that is, except that its allegedly food.

>>133552763

yeah, got really stoned couple of days ago. ton of weed. shitty that u muslim cunts dont get to PUFF on that godly shit. u cant even drink beer. beer is fuckin amazing. my god, practicing muslims have very little enjoyment in their lives
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>>133547995
How to make bombs
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>>133553732

dunno man. anything else?
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>>133553903
Kk, but if you had to guess honesty, how many radicalz are out there?
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>>133553495
How many white girls have you raped? Are you inbred?
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>>133554384

well, there are enough of them that the number, whatever it is, shouldn't be underrated.

i mean, i watched tommy robinson couple of weeks ago and the treatment muslims get there, or in a lot of western countries is way too tolerant.

the western world has to be very careful about muslim immigration, if you're accepting muslims, you better be fucking absolutely sure that you're taking in the best, im afraid that is not the case currently in europe.
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>>133555058

i didnt rape anyone and im not inbred
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Sunni or Shia?
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>>133555176

i mean, look, theres a lot of muslims that dont give a flying fuck about the concept of """"CIVILIZATION"""", thats why a lot of them are so willing to bail on their own countries, a lot of them would just like to enjoy in western civilization without actually understanding the work that takes, so yknow, you gotta be fucking careful witth these people
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>>133555501

sunni
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>>133555645
LMAO surprising, even with a Shia i'd expect a couple generations under a urban environment (especially with the modern progressive politics) to occur before people outright become apathetic to their parents religion.

In all seriousness you are now a traitorous infidel we will kill you.
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>>133556051

you can suck my big fat apostate dick LOL
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>>133547995
Shol'va
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>>133556376

oo selam buraz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U67MRAPKXzU
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>>133556190
Already you accept the sinful degeneracy of homosexuality.
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>>133548162
Bumping this. Shia? Sunni?
How covert do you need to be or are you in a non-Muslim community now?
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>>133556528

LOL, what can i do i like shoving my dick into stuff
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>>133547995
Concratulations of escaping mind's prison. Be vary not to fill the "void" with some other cause. Then some questions:

How old are you?

Are you planning to move abroad that would be more or less the only way for you to truly escape?

Are you worried about your safety?
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>>133556693

im in a muslim community. i dont really need to be covert at all, i mean my friends know that i dont give a fuck about that shit, they just dont like when im blasphemous in front of them

the only time im "covert" is in my family, because of obvious reasons

i mean you can openly be atheist and shit, but like if you make fun of religion, dont expect that people will be friendly
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>>133547995
Hi OP. Nice change from the taqqiya 'Ask a Muslim' threads.

1. What books influenced you? seems a number of Ex-Muslims have read Darwin and Dawkins

2. What are the trends in Arab countries, is it easier to come out as Ex-Muslim?

3. What are roughly the percentage of Ex-Muslims that become a/Atheists and b/Christians or other religions?
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>>133547995
How rampant is the concept of Taqiya in modern day Islam? Are the people on TV representing Islam pathological liars?
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>>133556840

im 20 years old.

i would indeed like to move abroad, but i wouldn't really be running away from anything since im not prosecuted, and the country im living isnt batshit crazy muslim, its kind of just, yknow muslim flavored XDD

nah man, im safe here. this is a free country, you can be whatever you want :D
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>>133557054
Your friends are also treasonous rats who will be stoned when the time comes.
It is clearly you who has influenced them to be this way.
Our belief does not just create our social boundaries to keep us away from degenerate homosexuals like you, it is also cultural, how dare you turn your back on your brothers infidel.
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Thanks so much for taking the time to talk to us today. Im sure someone in your position has a lot of valuable insight.

So, my first question to you is this:
Are you looking forward to burning in hell?
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>>133557236

i never really read any anti-islam books, and atheist like dawkins that are going out of their way to disprove religion are somewhat silly. anyways, what drove me further from islam was actually reading islamic literature. quran itself is not bad at all, you can always spin it into a positive message, however when you go into hadith you will find some weird shit that you will have big trouble reconciling with common sense. dont get me started about the arab islamic scholars. when i picked up a book on halal (okay) and haram (forbidden) in islam, i was like genuinely shocked (even though i grew up in that culture) since it seemed that everything was fucking forbidden.

dont really know about arab countries since im not from one, im from Bosnia.

hmmm i dont really know. where i live you have christians (minorty) and muslims (majority). in both of those groups most of them dont really practice and dont really care that much.
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>>133557436
show AU flag with pride you sunni extremist
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>>133557983
>From bosnia

Hello. Fellow ex-Muslim atheist here.

What are the chances of me finding an ex-Muslim friend / waifu in Bosnia? Or at least a non-practicing secular Muslim type?
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>>133557323

i dont really know man. people representing islam on TV in my country are just a bunch of fuckin preachers, they take the positive messages and they drop the negative shit, or they find some way to spin it into something positive
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>>133557871

hell yeah, since ur going too, bring beer and barbecue so we can party in that motherfucker
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>>133557983
What city do you live in, infidel?
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>>133547995
What is the penalty for apostates?
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>>133557983
If you had to choose to practice any religion what would you choose?

Also, as an atheist are you an asshole who hates on all religions and wants them all gone, or someone who recognizes how important religions can be in instilling hope, community values, and morality in normies?

Do you believe in degeneracy or monogamy?

I am agnostic, but I believe moderate religions can serve important purposes, and that being monogamous, kind, and hardworking is important. I simply can't believe in god, or disbelieve, but I do understand the importance of Christian values.
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>>133558338

actually quite high. i find that girls in bosnia are just perfectly conservative, not too much, if you put in work you can have your way, but again, they never fuck on the first date, or do one night stands etc

bosnia is good regarding what you are seeking
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>>133547995
If you havent publicly baptized yourself with beer and bacon i dont fucking believe you, fuck off achmed.
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>>133557983
Fake Imam I knew it, kill yourself false prophet. Talking down upon the Hadith is not okay.
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>>133558773
Thank you. I considered setting my goals to Turkey finding fellow ex-Muslims / secularists to connect with but then I read about the Erdogan shit and how the country is turning into the second Ottoman Empire. Urgh.

Is Bosnia turning religious too over the years?
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>>133547995
Proof?
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>born into bangladeshi muslim family
>never was religious
>became atheist at age 12
>family only muslim in basic sense ie. no pork, no drinking
>dad came out as atheist to me 3 yrs ago


for non-arab muslims, it's just a piece of culture rather than a way of life. we celebrate eid, and fast for ramadan, but no one in my family wears a veil or any of that shit.
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>>133547995
what was your first bacon like?
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>>133547995
Islam is a blight on humanity and human progress.

How do we make more people like you?
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>>133558543

rajvosa

>>133558583

death in sharia i guess?

>>133558648

i don't really know regarding that first question. if i really HAD to practice religion i would practice islam since i only know about that one XD

and yeah, as an atheist i do understand how religion is important in a society, and religion itself is not a problem but we need to be able to freely criticize it, make fun of it etc, which you know isnt really a problem when it comes to christianity but is when it comes to islam.

i do believe that people should settle down with their wives and start families. im quite conservative regarding this. i mean, sure have your fun when you're young, but know that family is not a joke and that you should plan for it as you get older.

i cant agree more with the last sentence you wrote. i would go as far as to say that protestant work ethic is one of the peaks of human thinking.
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FASCISM IS SLOWLY COMING BACK BABY, WOOOOOO
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>>133548288
lol, source.

I read the Koran and I didn't remember that. But fuckola, what an angry and absolutist book.
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>>133547995
>Ex-Muslim

How are you still alive?
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>>133551127
>however they do not practice (since its fucking hard as fuck to practice islam), and some even do certainly haram shit like smoke weed, drink alcohol, and still think of themselves as muslim.
To be fair, that's how most people practice Islam while making each other miserable and some young men join ISIS as soon as they put down the bong to make up for being a shithead.
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>>133547995
Why should I not sage, oh and SAGE
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>>133559422
Our views pretty much overlap, bruca
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>>133559422
Shadilay, brother.
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>>133559229
Thanks. I have the same question for you: what experiences, readings or influences made you realize that you were an Atheist?
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Do you eat bacon now?
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>>133547995
I wish you all the best. Don't take this board seriously, be the best person you can be, the best way you know how.
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>>133547995
So Muslims are basically redditfags, got it.
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>>133558800

i do drink beer, i probably ate bacon while i was travelling europe since i didnt pay attention

>>133559124

i wouldn't recommend turkey. i have had contact with those people, and i don't like them.
regarding bosnia turning religious, i dont really think that there are big changes in that. i think that the bosnian community was always religious to some extent and that extent is pretty constant.

>>133559221

proof of what?

>>133559229

yeah, in bosnia too, a lot of muslims just take it as a piece of culture rather than a philosophy of life

>>133559305

i dont actually quite remember hahah, if i ate bacon i ate it accidentally by not giving a fuck and not noticing any different. a friend says that its fucking delicious tho, gotta try it for sure

>>133559421

its really simple, we just have to keep moving the western civilization forward. also you know, almost all problems of muslims can be solved simply by quality education.
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>>133560252
>age 5
ever since i was a child i would ask questions like "why is the sky blue" and my parents would just say "because god made it that way"

this was never satisfying to me so i always thought it was a BS answer.

>age 10
my parents put me in a sunday school basically and we would learn about islam from imams. i remember everything they said was just obvious bullshit. like how mohammad split the moon in half. i got into trouble for htis.

>age 12
when 9/11 happened and it created a schism in my family and among my family friends. it made muslims that i know SUPER muslim and it was just too much. i hated having a muslim name because i was not really muslim and i hated the bad reputation they had after 9/11.

i also started being an edgy teen at htis point listenign to TOOL.

in my HS although not many muslims, there were even fewer atheists. i think i was the only person who was 'open' as an atheist and i got made fun of a lot because i went to school with dumb people.

>age now
i've been in too many religiuous debates as a teen t hat i know it's always aporia - you will never change anyone's mind and honestly i don't even care to anymore. faith is powerful and i respect it in a lot of ways. the closest thing i am is probably a diest or a buddhist.

--
to answer your question in a short way, i just was always atheist really. i just always had a different conception of god and knew religion was always hokey lowest common denominator shit. but i respect it now as an adult.
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>>133547995
why? why dont you want to blow yourself up in mid London?
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>>133557436
>country im living isnt batshit crazy muslim
Alright. Tell to your family then?

Moar questions! Have you listened Christopher Hitchen's debates from YouTube?
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>>133555597
>i mean, look, theres a lot of muslims that dont give a flying fuck about the concept of """"CIVILIZATION"""", thats why a lot of them are so willing to bail on their own countries, a lot of them would just like to enjoy in western civilization without actually understanding the work that takes, so yknow, you gotta be fucking careful witth these people
again, how do we get more former-Muslims like you in this world?
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>>133547995
ETA your execution?
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>>133559709

hey, you can fuck off too. you fascist scum cost the western civilization a lot.

>>133560071

i live in a normal country with normal people

>>133560366

nah. my parents check up on me every now and then so i dont buy the haram stuff. shit i should probably get rid of the beer i have in my fridge lol

>>133560688

thank you usabro
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>>133547995
Two more questions:

1. do you think you will "revert" and become a Muslim again.
2. What do you think makes Muslims become extremists? It seems they turn "radical" on a dime.
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>>133560919
>Quality Education
That term is extremely hard to define. Even some of the most innovative Universities are filled with degenerate bullshit, and some of the best school for training skills never teach individualism or questioning the narrative.
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>>133557983
>when i picked up a book on halal (okay) and haram (forbidden) in islam, i was like genuinely shocked (even though i grew up in that culture) since it seemed that everything was fucking forbidden.
Everything is forbidden because it's a system to control people.
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>>133547995
By Allah you are a cuck.
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>>133561022
>i just always had a different conception of god and knew religion was always hokey lowest common denominator shit. but i respect it now as an adult.

Same here, from a Christian background. I still respect Christianity and feel it should be preserved, and sometimes attend mass with the family. But deep inside I feel exiled from these things.
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>>133561058

london is a nice city, UK is a nice country, and brits are nice people, why would i harm them

>>133561120

well if i told my family i would just stir up trouble and i would have to explain myself, however i wouldn't be stoned or honor killed XD

>>133561147

well you can't really change anyone, however what the west can do is to ensure that muslim immigrants are fully assimilated in western society. i would support policies like zero crime tolerance for immigrants etc. like honestly, i dont know why every mosque in UK isnt being monitored 24/7 by the MI5 since the muslim community in UK doesn't have a governing body so its just a bunch of mosques where preachers can say whatever the fuck they please. hell even where i come from there are a couple of arab funded mosques that are suspicious to me. fuck political correctness and do what its necessary to ensure safety of people. if i get racially profiled i understand, since i know that there are a lot of muslim scumbags that hate the west. when i see people taking extra precaution towards muslims, that makes me feel extra safe. generally i've seen muslims in the west are whining way too much, i dont know why people tolerate this.
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>>133561823
It gives muslim zealots a tool to identify piety(and the lack of it) pretty efficiently.
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>>133551267
A guy with a kekistani flag doesn't even know what the word pussy or kunt mean.
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>>133562303
Of course, Islam is a political system to completely control the population.

There is nothing "moderate" or compatible with Western culture if it involves praying 5 times a day and the rest of the Sharia shit.
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>>133547995
Muslim here, why did you become an athiest and not a christian or hindu? What parts of Islam made you leave?
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>>133555597
You are misunderstanding the situation in Europe. It's not particulaly the immigrants themselves who are radicalized, it's their fucking children who are born and bread here. Little ungrateful bastards who believe they want what their parents fled from.
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>>133561392

i will probably never ever again become religious.

aw man that 2nd question is very complex. i dont really know. i guess that a lot of muslims see the west as their enemy, and i guess extremist use that narrative combined with a very violent teaching of islam to achieve what they achieve. but like, that question is for experts, so i really have no fuckin idea

>>133561794

hm i guess it is hard. however, i do think that teaching kids the scientific method through mathematics, physics etc is of great importance since it actually provides the best framework of thinking.

the thing about religion is that its implanted in your head from a very early age and its really hard to escape it after. critical thinking is crucial in that process.
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>>133562879
I would say the most fundamental teaching would be to question the narrative. Children need to be taught by their parents that no one is always right, not them, their teachers, or even their own parents. This is one of the earliest lessons I remember from my parents.

The original red pill, questioning.
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>>133560919
>also you know, almost all problems of muslims can be solved simply by quality education.
I had a few talks with Muslims at my uni, and to make a story short, educated Muslims actually believes black magic exists, because it says so in the Qur'an
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>>133562770

after some time i lost faith in religion itself, not just islam. well really, the part where i have to spend hours a day trying to rationalize islamic philosophy.

>>133562806

they don't like the west? fucking great, deport the motherfucking scum! anyone that publicly threatens the nation should be proclaimed public enemy and subsequently arrested and/or deported
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>>133563306
>university
>believes in black magic
Fck that's sad...
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>>133562806
Who do you suppose those children learn things from, then?

Of course Denmark doesn't take parenting into account. Yet another thing they pay the State do for them. Lel
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>>133559229
Speak for yourself lad I'm a British born Bangladeshi ex Muslim as well but my entire family is deeply religious hyper conservatives. Whenever I even bring up how most Muslim nations are shitholes it feels like I'm inches away from being disowned.

Then again the UK is a Muslim country unlike US, maybe I should apply for asylum from Islamic oppression somewhere else.

Also some of my cousins tried to kill me and pummelled the shit out of me when I "joked" about not raising my kids as Muslim.
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>>133562694
There was a study that analyzed all the relevant islamic religious texts, the qur'an, hadiths etc., and it showed that about 60% of it deal with non-believers. How to deal with them, how to tax them... Very similar to the Talmud that deals with the goyim.
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>>133563259

hah, yeah you're right. the original red pil. yeah, you need to question everything, accept that you know extremely little, and work your way forward by learning

>>133563306

hahah, well fuck then, i dont know. now that you mention it, i know a dude that has a phd in physics and he's taking parts of quran as a basis for some of his derivations and calculations, i mean its all just a big fucking travesty
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>>133561971
i actually like reading the bible. it's pretty good literature.

i'm glad i had my edgy atheist phase at age 12-16 rather than after, because i just can't stand the 'new atheist' fedora fuckers.

they're legit worse than religious people.
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>>133563370
>rationalize islamic philosophy
Can you give an example? I've been thinking of leaving too
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>>133563633

im very sorry to hear that man. fight your way through, keep your mouth shut, and get the fuck out of there
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>>133563370
Lose your faith in religion and realize that people are capable in good and evil. Those who do good without expecting some eternal reward are good people for goodness sake. Then there are evil people. People who need an authority they can point to so they can do evil deeds. Why they need the authority? Because they pretend to be good. Still highly recommend you check Hitchens from youtube if you haven't heard of him. Not because you need to accept what he says, but to hear differing opinions.
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>>133547995
why did you ditch family and community for (((degeneracy)))?
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>>133563832

go read al-qradawi's halal and haram in islam. your brain will fucking melt from the idiot.

everything is forbidden. you cant look at women, you're supposed to marry basically a fucking stranger. i mean, i can go on for hours, just read that motherfucker and trust me you will find plenty reasons why you should leave
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>>133564031

oh i know about hitchens. he's a bad ass, i enjoy listening to him quite a lot.

>>133564101

i didn't
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>>133547995
is pork or beer better to you?
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>>133564264
Most of the halal and haram are found in the hadith, not in the Quran. and the Quran literally says there's no compulsion. The hadith came 200 years after the Quran, and can't be trusted as an accurate source for Islam.
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>>133547995
I was in Bosnia in the 90's and later was a private contractor in Iraq with Serbs and z Muslims that had previously fought each other.
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>>133564571

beer. didnt have too much expereince with pork

>>133564592

dude, if you think that the quran is the only source of islam, you're living in a fucking illusion, like it or not, hadith is the greatest source of islam right after quran
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>>133563992
Can't lad, have a mixture of feeling indebted and Stockholm syndrome. My childhood memories are my dad working insane hours to support my family and my mum working part time as well to look after us.

I hate Islam with all my heart and a lot of my jihadist cousins but I feel like I can't just abandon my parents, just hoping they mellow out in old age and maybe move with them somewhere with no Muslims(other than them).
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>>133564713

90s was pretty fucked up here
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>>133564882
You will love this
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>>133564882
> hadith is the greatest source of islam right after quran
How so? The hadith were written down 200 years after the Quran, how can you trust it? And if the hadith were so important why doesn't the quran mention them at all? The quran says anything besides it should not be followed, including the hadith
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>>133564893

whatever happens man, hold on and look after yourself. you will find a way, just dont give up
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>>133547995
Why does a muzzie bitch constantly crave my cock no matter how much or times I tell her conversion is something thats not going to happen
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>>133565082

oh god

>>133565107

in quran it literally says that people should follow muhammad and hadith is all about what muhammad said, i dont really have the energy to debate whether hadith is a source of islam or not, if you dont believe me, try to go out in a muslim community while denouncing hadith and see how it goes
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>>133547995
I haven't actually read the Quran, just read about it, so forgive my ignorance if this question is based on bullshit:

I read that the Quran contains references to stuff like black holes, the speed of light, and the big bang. Is that true or is it just some very creative interpretation of passages that could be referring to loads of things?
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>>133565345
Id rather not, Id rather grab my gun and defend my way of life compared to your morons who go....... Our way of life is defined by a magical fairy that no one ever has evidence to support existing. Your a fucking tool moron
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>>133547995
What do you think of liberals who are offended at any criticism directed at islam?

Curious about your opinions both before and after your conversion from the faith.
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>>133563823
True... I've read the Bible, and mostly like the Old Testament. Even now I still find some parts beautiful, on a literary level. But it seems I can't reconnect with the kind of thinking necessary for a religious worldview.

I've always found Atheists willing to dig into old theological debates way more interesting than Fedoras mocking religion. But well, I guess both serve a purpose.
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>>133565345
>in quran it literally says that people should follow muhammad and hadith
Which verse are you talking about? Give the verse. I'll give you some which prove hadith should not be part of Islam.
[Quran 7:185] Have they not looked at the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all the things God has created? Does it ever occur to them that the end of their life may be near? Which HADITH, besides this (Quran) do they believe in?
[Quran 31:6] Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless HADITH, and thus divert others from the path of God without knowledge, and take it in vain. These have incurred a shameful retribution.
[Quran 39:23] God has revealed herein the BEST HADITH; a book that is consistent and points out both ways (to heaven and hell). The skins of those who reverence their Lord cringe therefrom, then their skins and their hearts soften up for God's message. Such is God's guidance; he bestows it upon whomever He wills. As for those sent astray by God, nothing can guide them.
[Quran 45:6] These are God's revelations (Quran) that we recite to you truthfully. In which HADITH other than God and His revelations do they believe?
[Quran 52:34] Let them produce a HADITH like this (Quran) if they are truthful.
[Quran 68:44] Therefore, let Me deal with those who reject this HADITH(Quran); we will lead them on whence they never perceive.
[Quran 77:50] Which HADITH other than this do they uphold?
You've never been given the possibility of quran only islam, your whole life you've been fed an Islam based on hadith makes no sense, so you left Islam without considering anything else. The hadith have no basis in Islam. Radicalism comes from hadith.
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>>133547995
Have you killed yourself yet? Are the virgins real?
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There is no such thing as an ex-Muslim, there are only Muslims and infidels. If you think you can leave Islam you were never a true Muslim to begin with. But don't worry, you will come around, Allah willing.
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>>133565960
Again, Do you have proof. Anyone can make up anything. I hear testify your a fucking pedophile faggot, does that it make true....... no... no it doesn't unless i have something to back it up with
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>>133566044
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>>133565960
Aah so you are quasi-muslim who had moral dilemmas while exploring his faith and you dont want to give up your belief in god but still, the mainstream way of being muslim doesnt quite cut it? Well, good luck with that. This hadith are widely accepted by the mainstream muslims all over the world.
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>>133566317
nice try but no, Im not the one claiming a magical fairy in the sky faggot
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>>133566604
Islam doesn't include the hadith. Why should it?
>This hadith are widely accepted by the mainstream muslims all over the world.
Yes but look at the state of them today, they're killing each other and spreading chaos. They should follow the quran not random hadith, this would improve the muslims today.
>>133566064
I just provided 7 verses of proof anon are you fucking blind
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>>133567209
Go and spread the word, muslim Luther. I believe in you
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>>133567209
7 verses of proof, KEKEKEKEKE HAHAHHAHA and LLOLOLOLOLOL. 7 verses of proof delivered by whom huh you dumb ass mother fucker
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>>133564592
>and the Quran literally says there's no compulsion

There is compulsion to believe or die, the verse that says there is no compulsion is abrogated by the later verses. Look for videos/lectures of Robert Spencer and David Wood on youtube.
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>>133558338
So when are you fags going to fight for the communist revolution? Also, welcome to a board that supports some religions, culture, and tradition.
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>>133547995
>shoot away
Well, you asked for it.
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>>133547995
Do you like food porn ?
Can you tell huwait ppl apart ?
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