Anti-Net Neutrality Shilling

>>133534342
This is obvious

>>133534342
Have a bump.

>>133534496
You'd be surprised how stupid ancaps are.

if NN wasnt a way for the government to censor political opinions then the left wouldnt be shilling for it

>>133535658

This is another thing shills have been doing.

>But the left likes it so it CANT be good, right?

Remember even a broken clock is right twice a day. If lefties are for something which hurts the jewish plot, well then the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

>>133535658
>EVERYONE THE LEFT LIKES BREATHING OXYGEN! EVERYONE STOP BREATHING THE GAS JEW IMMEDIATELY!

This is what you sound like

>>133534342
>Don't fall for kike shilling. Without Net Neutrality the jews can legally censor opinions they don't want while simultaneously nickle and diming us for more shekles.

Amazing how the jew will even eat their own

>>133536762
Jews only care about their shekels. Much like how niggers only care about themselves.

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>>133534342
Shills, Shills everywhere

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>>133534342
Bump. It's enraging how easily people have been falling for this shit.

>>133534342
Thank you, NSA.

>>133535658
>the left is doing it therefore it's bad
how fucking retarded are you? neck yourself brainlet

>>133534342
LIERTARIANISM ANE ANCAP IDEOLLGIES WERE MADE BY JEWS
SOME OF IT IS GENUINE SHILLING AND SOME OF IT IS JUST BRAINDEAD RETARDS

>>133536108
>use 38 percent of the infrastructure
>pay as much as a pleb in bandwidth costs
thats what netflix was doing. this is why the future is ancap, because netflic ruined the commons for everyone else

>>133537822
hans herman hoppe is not jewish
that fucker is more aryan than hitler

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>>133536762
>>133537320
Maybe there isn't some Jewish conspiracy after all...?

''Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew.

Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew.

What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.

Very well then! Emancipation from huckstering and money, consequently from practical, real Judaism, would be the self-emancipation of our time.

An organization of society which would abolish the preconditions for huckstering, and therefore the possibility of huckstering, would make the Jew impossible. His religious consciousness would be dissipated like a thin haze in the real, vital air of society. On the other hand, if the Jew recognizes that this practical nature of his is futile and works to abolish it, he extricates himself from his previous development and works for human emancipation as such and turns against the supreme practical expression of human self-estrangement.

We recognize in Judaism, therefore, a general anti-social element of the present time, an element which through historical development – to which in this harmful respect the Jews have zealously contributed – has been brought to its present high level, at which it must necessarily begin to disintegrate.

In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism.''

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>>133534342
Where did you see that it's been default since the 90s? I didn't know we've had that position since then I thought it was more recent.

>>133534342
YOU are the Jew shill OP.

Only retarded reddit tards like you support "Net Neutrality."

We didnt have any regulations on the internet until king nigger came along, and somehow we did fine. Now we need unelected bureaucrats to pass 500 pages of regulations? Fuck off.


Facebook, Google, and many other leftist companies support it. Really jostles the ol' noggin.

>>133534342
FUCK OFF
NET NEUTRALITY IS KILLING ALL ME TORRENT SITES
YOUTUBE AND OTHER FREE HOSTING ARE NEXT
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, JUST END THIS COMMUNISM BULLSHIT

>>133534342
bump

>>133535873
>the jewish plot

You mean the Net Neutrality shilled by (((Zuckerberg)))

PLEASE GOY, LET US MONITOR YOU, I'LL GET YOU MORE PLEB NETFLIX FOR IT! BREAD AND CIRCUSES FOR ALL THE GENTILES!

>>133537985
>t. jew beating around the bush to tell me there was no messiah
functionially identical, these monneyless kikes

>>133537992
>Facebook, Google, and many other leftist companies support it. Really jostles the ol' noggin.

Yep.

>>133537843
I pay for bandwidth. It's not ISPs business what that bandwidth consists off

I was split on the decision from the get go but after the last week of reading what must have been 1000 threads I'm for NN.

While the government doesn't always have my best interest at heart i don't see how anyone can say Comcast will ever do you right.

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>>133538129
>>133538194
>>133538334

Shills have arrived. Zuckerberg and Jewgle and the like support it because they don't want to have to pay out their asses to the telecom companies for the same bandwidth use. They already sell your data and censor stuff on their own platform, why the fuck would this effect that one way or the other?

Just because you and your enemy agree with something does not mean its for the same reasons, or that you are suddenly friends.

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>>133534342
>translation
>I'm a fucking retard that gives money to companies who treat me like shit. Instead of switching to a better service like a smart consumer, I will instead cry because I need someone to fight the bully for me. Therefore, I never have to use my brain and did I also mention I'm fucking retarded.

Fixed that for you.

>>133538129
>NET NEUTRALITY IS KILLING

nothing.

>>133538424
if you ran a company with that bandwidth
you would need to upload data to your users
that fee you paid for bandwidth? that was assuming you werent going to get all the normies all requesting 4k gilmore girls at the same time
a single normie requesting 4k gilmore girls will never be forced to pay what netflix should be paying.

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>>133534342
Yeah, I was just arguing with an ancap about this in another thread. I'm not sure if the shills are impersonating ancaps now, but that shit was fucked. The guy was convinced that net neutrality entails governmental powers that can be used for censorship.

>>133535658
You're either a brainwashed cunt or some psyops cunt either way you're a cunt.

>>133538425
Because Comcast can't break in and shoot you for refusing to be like the rest of the goyim

http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/23/manchesters-top-police-say-we-wont-tolerate-hate-after-ariana-grande-terror-attack-6656860/

>>133538654
>Instead of switching to a better service like a smart consumer

Why do you faggots always act like switching services is easy? For a lot of people, including myself there is literally one provider and thats it.

>in b4 get up and move from your perfect house because companies choose not to compete

>>133535658
This is so 2nd grade right here.

>>133538758
>Wanting Gov to control you and end freedom on the internet
Mate fk off

>>133538979
Petition for other companies to move their services into your city/town. This isn't fucking rocket science you nigger

>>133538654
There often isn't another service unless, like you, you live in a massive city with lots of niggers and liberals. Most people have one or two ISPs to choose from and they offer essentially the exact same speeds and prices. But basic market research is hard for you kike. Kys

>>133538583
>why the fuck would this effect that one way or the other?

Because who the fuck do you think will be enforcing this you fucking moron? The FCC and NSA, the two agencies RESPONSIBLE FOR ONLINE LAW ENFORCEMENT.

You know, the agencies that do the MPAA's bidding whenever they accuse a 12 year old of using his grandma's computer to pirate batman movies.

Here's a secret: Jewgle and Kikebook have no power over you. The only ones that do are the ones that can break in and shoot you and then claim they're enforcing the law.

Since when does 4chan want the government enforcing the internet? Get off this board you statist coward.

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Without net neutrality, your ISP can decide to throttle 4chan and give preferential speed to reddit.

With net neutrality, all internet traffic is treated the same.

This is a very simplified version but you get the idea.

Anyone who doesn't support net neutrality is a shill or a fucking moron. Ending net neutrality doesn't benefit the average end user in the slightest.

Ending net neutrality would let companies throttle access and basically any website with "hate speech" so corporations have more control over the flow of information. So the internet would become the MSM 2.0 with alternatives being made harder to reach.

It would also let companies Jew you out of your money through various ways like subscription services, and because of corporate monopolies, it would be almost impossible to stop.

Guess who owns most of the ISPs that are pushing for the end of net neutrality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_L._Roberts
>Brian L. Roberts (born June 28, 1959) is an American businessman. Roberts is the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of Comcast Corporation, an American company providing cable, entertainment, and communications products and services. Under his leadership, Comcast has grown into a global Fortune 50 company uniquely positioned at the intersection of technology and media with two primary businesses, Comcast Cable and NBCUniversal. [2]
>Roberts was born into a Jewish family[3][4]

>>133539225
Read
>>133539159

Do you idiots really need someone to change your diaper for you as well?

Nice gaslighting thread, shill

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>>133534342
yeah, the only reasonable argument so far i saw was "it will be regulated, either by state or cooperations, so better let it do cooperations" but even that is a really sloppy argument as we could just outlaw any regulations and make noone regulate it

>>133539308
that meme image is literally a better plan than I pay now.

Want to know why? Because government-enforced monopolies that protects AT&T from other telecoms moving into my city.

Fuck off.

>>133538811
What's the logic behind that? I genuinely want to know his reasoning

>>133538801
bro, i pay for x Bandwidth. It's not the ISP business if i spend that x watching porn or uploading games. How is this a hard concept for you to understand?

What are you even trying to say? That we should have pity for ISPs? That they are being oppressed?

>>133539529
>as we could just outlaw any regulations and make noone regulate it

Sounds good.

>>133535658
>The left and right are complete opposites and cannot agree on anything.
KYS

>>133539308
Net Neutrality is where the government is the only organization which can regulate the internet's content. Net Neutrality is what China has.

Net non-Neutrality is where companies regulate their own services, and they as private businesses can determine what they want to regulate.

So if you support Neutrality, you support the government taking over the internet to regulate political content (shut down Breitbart, 4chan, never allow another Trump-effect to happen).

You want us to become like China?
Fuck off commie

>>133539225
>>133538979
On another note, you allowed it to happen anyway. I'm sure there were other ISPs in your location, but you decided to go with the big man. Now you are surprised they have a monopoly in your location. That's like complaining about early access shit yet still buys PlayerUnknown's BattleGrounds. Or complain about DLC once a game releases yet you still buy the game. You let people fuck you in the ass and then you bitch afterwards. Majority of consumers are stupid, use your brain for once.

Jews at Netflix want to avoid paying more even though they hog up the Internet bandwidth. Bandwidth is expensive. Instead of having sensible pricing models where companies like Netflix can pay for the data they use a bunch of internet tards think their free speech is at risk because of Jewish misinformation campaigns. Yards blame ancaps who see through this shit.

REEEEEEEEEE use the government to stop ISPs from throttling hogs or letting ISPs charge them a fair price.


Well done internet tards. You got (((Netflix'd)))

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>>133539312
I have read up on the subject, unlike your lefty ass, and I know that NN is just ISPs and companies like Netflix pitting consumers against one another over their own squabbles. NN does nothing to solve the problem of local monopolies. 9/10 there isn't a choice in providers and only a kike would lie and suggest otherwise. Learn about what you are talking about before you post cuck

>>133534342
>NN has been the default position since the 90s.

Lie

>Shills will often pray upon peoples lack of knowledge of what NN actually is

Like you


>pretending its some new EVIL law King Nigger and his jockeys were/are trying to get through.

It's only been around for 3 years and it actually was passed by Obama

> But more important than that, information which goes against the (((narrative))), e.g. 4chan, can get throttled without any hope of paying the exorbitant fee of getting into the "fast lane"

complete fallacy, totally false, NN did not exist for 20 years and this never happened

Stop preying on people's ignorance by putting a good sounding name on corporate welfare for facebook and google.

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>>133534342
Bump this

>>133538801
You are retarded. You don't understand how bandwidth works.

>>133534342
Take a free bump

>>133539722
You probably replied to the wrong person, because I'm against NN due to the fact consumers were the ones who did it to themselves. If you did intend on replying to me, then you need to learn who a lefty is you dumb nigger.

>>133539694
That's generally false for rural areas. Usually whomever gets out there first gets a monopoly on the market as they own the lines and laying new lines is expensive as fuck. If you live in a massive liberal city, like you do, you can pick your provider and monopolies generally only form due to stupidity but those of us in the country have to choose between whomever lays lines out to us. You are shilling too hard there shariablue, dial it down

>>133539567
>I take it up the ass so what the big deal if I suck dick at the same time?

>>133539643

Because it's not about you. It's about netflix and whatever other millineal shit startup like shutterfly and snapchat and vine clogging up the internet with pointless bullshit uploaded by clueless normies who think that their facebook live video of them making a fucking retard of themselves at a party will turn them into the next Kardashian.

Fakebook shovels 600TB of data each way daily. Want real 'Net Neutrality'? They should be required to build their own ISP. Same with Netflix.

But please keep paying your netflix subscription so they can fund Sex Junk 2.0

Reminder to always do the opposite of what (((google))) and (((facebook))) tell you.

>>133540029
You replied to me first kike. I pointed out that competition doesn't exist, which is a fact, and you disagreed because the goys can't know so shut it down, right lefty?

>>133540046
> I am utterly unable to argue his point so I'll shitpost instead.

Please, keep sucking the teat of nanny government.

>>133540171
This spic understands.

>>133540035
Are you fucking dumb nigger? Generally false is your perception because you live in the middle of no where. You can use your brain and call up other companies, as a community, and ask for other services in the area. That's how the USA works, not your commie shit. A SB shill calling other people SB shills. Ironic.
>>133540229
Then you're a shill pretending to not be a shill. Your filename on the post just outs you as one you faggot. Kill yourself you nigger.

>>133539276

There's no "enforcement" agency you mongoloid. The regulation is passed through the FCC guidelines but it makes tiered internet speed an illegal business practice, which would mean they would get taken to court if they did it anyways. It's not at the discretion of the FCC or NSA because they're not enforcement agencies. (not that in the NSA case it would matter since they're an intelligence agency and can pretty much act outside the law with permission)

>>133539691
That is completely wrong. The FCC has already and will continue to regulate what can be on the US based internet. That's been going on since forever. I know rights are a hard concept for you aussies. NN means a corporation can't arbitrarily add content filters to favor their business interests.

>>133539694
No actually, I chose not to have internet all together and use my cellphones hotspot for browsing.

If i want to download something big like a game / tv series i just download it at work or a friends house.

But hey, keep on babbling about how retarded I am for signing a useless petition that led to nothing or cancelling the insane rates these jewish corporations wanted for a semi decent speed.

>>133538129
So much stupid.

>>133538811
>>133539626
Dunno who you're on about, but it might be this:
>Broadband users should be able to use any device or application they want, to reach any legal content they wish, using any broadband technology, so long as they don’t cause harm to the network.
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-293569A1.pdf

Keeping in mind how much Obama hated whistleblowers, it's not too big a stretch to worry about what the fed regulators might deem "legal content."

>>133540112
You seem very frustrated with your life anon.

In what way is ISP business that people use their bandwidth? ISPs can't provide what they sell? Then ISPs should be upgrading their capabilities.

It's a very simple concept
>pay for bandwidth
>receive it

>>133540388
You gave the jews the money in the first place. Now you bitch about it. Go move to Russia if you need to be baby sat because you can't use your brain.

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>>133534342
>2017
>being this retarded
Good goy. NN is gooood, goy. Nevermind the ISP monopoly, what's a few shekels among friends? huh, goy?

>>133540368
>FCC
>Literally government department of censorship
>Not an enforcement agency

Nice try, kike

>>133540276
What is a metaphor

>>133539308
So, it's either Big ISP corporations or the Government controlling the data you see. At least you can boycott corporations.

>>133540514
And when you oversaturate the bandwidth you pay for, it's your fault. Kikebook and netflix don't want to own up to their usage.

>>133540724
What is inability to refute a point

>>133540572

Net neutrality doesn't stop anyone from opening a business. As a matter of fact, it helps us in this instance because people can't just go out tomorrow and start a telecommunications company.

But you already knew that, didn't you shill?

>>133540701
You're literally just wrong. There's no other way to put it.

>>133540941
>"oversaturated bandwidth"

fair point dude, I oversaturated my bandwidth one time and they backtraced my IP and sent the internet police to my door.

>>133540941
You mean, ISP sell more bandwidth that they can afford to provide?

Maybe they should upgrade their capabilities or only sell what they can give

>>133534342
>default position
https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-adopts-strong-sustainable-rules-protect-open-internet

>NN means that ISPs cannot discriminate against data. Bandwidth is bandwidth, discriminate against data
I discriminate against data all of the fucking time with firewalls, ABP, ghostery and so on.

Just want streaming video faster? Too bad, NN disallows it. Just want faster torrent speeds? Too bad, NN disallows it.

Even in the worst-case scenario of throttling and blocking it is their property to do so as long as it isn't violating contracts. Don't call the cops because the internet isn't nirvana. They could get out of the ISP business and provide 0. Explain how providing more than nothing requires the governments guns when nothing is a-ok.

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Yes goyim! Your free speech is at risk! Use the government to prevent ISPs from charging me higher rates. Oy gevalt! Think of the six gorrilion goyim!

>>133540572
>ima throw in the word "goy" while stating the oppinion of this dude i dont agree with. that gives me credibillity"
how exactly would getting rid of NN get rid of the ISP Monopoly? what makes you think it wouldnt stay a monopoly, but it would just result in a package of $20 so you can go to kikebook, twitter, read some NYT and CNN together with the newest propaganda from VICE, but if you want literally everything else but the MSM media sides, or mainstream sides in general it will be $80, and since noone wants to pay $80 it will result in everyone just getting the (((MSM))) as source, and surely thats a good thing, right?

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>>133534342
The controversy starded over the addition of "fair contracts", something not part of the NN principle till then.

>>NN means that ISPs cannot discriminate against data. Bandwidth is bandwidth, regardless of where it comes from. Without NN, big sites can get throttled and intentionally slowed down so that they can extract more money.

Even though ISPs hate Net neutrality, the fight between netflix and them was not about deliberate traffic shaping. The big ISPs tried to use their power to not give Netflix cheap contracts.

The current bill is mostly about what they call "open internet", a lose term that was associated with net neutrality around 2015

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>>133539159
>Petition for other companies to move their services into your city/town

Except it doesn't work like that in real world.

It's too expensive to lay wires down so ISPs dont even bother. Corporate monopolies over areas make it incredibly hard to provide competition, and they usually end up being bought out anyway. Most people aren't gonna bother paying more, probably getting a worse service, just to avoid monopolies.

>>133539691

Net neutrality is what were already have, where all data is treated equally.

>>133540547
>Go move to Russia if you need to be baby sat because you can't use your brain.

Says the shill with a Nazi flag

>>133540878

Tell me when's the last time the US government censored or throttled a website you wanted to read. They've never done it to the extent ISPs could if net neutrality didn't stop them. This isn't Europe.

>>133541098
You're literally unable to prove your point. There's no other way to put it.

You're right. They should just turn you off.

The internet isn't a product, fuck off reeeee

Like seriously, anti NN shills LITERALLY want you to believe that the equivalent of your water provider stopping your water access because they don't like the food you're cooking with it is a good idea.

It's my fucking bandwidth, I fucking do with it what I fucking want. You don't get a say in it.

>>133540346
You mad anon? Do you understand basic economics? A hundred or so sales isn't going to cover the cost of the lines. LARPing behind a Nazi flag while being an ancap just proves how much of a newfag lefty shill you are

>>133541173
Nah, they can sell whatever the fuck they want. If kikebook or netflix goes over what they agreed in their CONTRACT, they should get turned off. Might make goyim like you get your face out of your (((cell phone))) for a while.

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Yes goyim! Keep fighting for net neutrality! Don't let those kike shills disuade you! Oy gevalt.

>>133541641
If you stop paying your water bill, you get cut off. If you go over your water use in the contract you sign, you get fined.

That's how it works with water, that's how it works with ISPs. Now go prep your wife for Abdul, kraut.

>>133541959
Yes goyim! Repeal NN so that we can finally censor 4chan and any other hate speech site we deem worthy! Yes yes!

>>133540547
>what is hindsight

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>>133542298

Oy gevalt don't repeal! Don't worry goyim the government is your friend. They would never censor 4chan or worse. Oy gevalt net neutrality for the win goyim!

>>133542298
You...You honestly think NN is what's keeping the Federal Kike Kommission and the (((NSA))) from censoring the internet?

>Netflix/Facebook isn't paying for their usage

I pay an ISP to download contents, they pay an ISP to host their content. This is the current system, why even touch it?
>calling it net neutral in the first place
This is why everyone is arguing. Instead of arguing for less regulation it's either the corporations control the net or the government does. Both corporatists ANd socialists are in the wrong here and their shills are distracting y'all

I'm sorry guys, but I'd rather trust our government to control the internet than corporations. Both want to screw me over, don't you dare imply otherwise, but at the least I know the government won't throttle me constantly. all I have to do is avoid "wrongthink". That sucks, and I hate that I have to do that, but I'll prefer it over the corps who will throttle me even if I have the politically correct opinion.

>>133542546
>You... you honestly think

nobody here talks like this shill. you're too obvious. Try again next thread.

>>133542546
No
It's what's keeping ISPs that are owned by kikes from doing that.
The whole reason NN got passed back in 2015 was to ensure a free and open internet.

>>133542080
Thanks for supporting net neutrality actually. Textbook of what you just said.

>>133534342
>NN has been the default position since the 90s
No its been the position since 2015 you fucking shill.

Net neutrality is a marketing term for policies that protect the profits of some companies. The alternatives proposed aren't much different and just reward a different group of crooks.

The people trying sell one approach or another are either shills or idiots.

>>133542582
>This is why everyone is arguing. Instead of arguing for less regulation it's either the corporations control the net or the government does. Both corporatists ANd socialists are in the wrong here and their shills are distracting y'all

Not quite. I want Net Neutrality overseen by NASA or the Dept of Energy or the NSF or some other Science-focused organization, not the Federal Censorship Commission or the National Insecurity Administration.

>>133539276
these shills need an education or a vacation or both

goddamn how can people think this slowly?

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>>133542636
Yes goyim he is probably a Jewish shill. Keep up the good fight goy! We must fight for net neutrality!

>>133539276
The government wont slow down my bandwith or charge me more to use less of it.

>>133542762
You're right. Don't cry like a little bitch if kikebook and netflix get cut off and you can't keep up with Kim K's latest sex tape.

>>133541641
Why shouldn't it be legal for water companies to have those kinds of conditions, though?

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>>133534342

how much do shills get paid?

I'm looking for a summer side job that can put my shitposting skills to use and earn me enough money to buy video games and Burger King while wracking up college debt.

Serious: are there any journalists who pried into the issue yet? Curious to an expose on the daily life of a paid2post "social engineer"

>>133542582
Exactly this. Why do we need to change things? The internet is fine the way it is.
Don't try to fix something if it isn't broken.

>>133534342
Title II is what allows the FCC to literally censor radio and TV broadcast.

I don't want the FCC to have Title II power over the Internet.

>>133542636
You're right. Your stupidity was so shocking I stopped following pol-dequitte for a minute

Oh wait, nothing like that exists.

Go spread your legs for (((Spez))) and Ohanian, faggot.

>>133541028
This line of argument is invalid: because there is already one constraint on my rights, I should not be concerned about additional constraints.

It's called a red herring you stupid nigger.

>>133535658
How the fuck would destroying NN protect us governmental censorship?

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>>133543149
>Title II is what allows the FCC to literally censor radio and TV broadcast.
Title II makes the internet a utility so that ISPs cannot throttle your internet and shit or charge you more for using certain sites.
Jesus fuck educate yourselves.

>>133536108
>he hasn't taken the noair pill
You really like serving your masters don't you? Good goy.

>>133535658
Provide 1 (ONE) instance where the government has censored the internet.

Now imagine what the fuck ISPs would do if they had free reign over bandwidth,

>>133539626
It was a bit inconsistent, but it was basically this:
>net neutrality = government regulates the internet
>the government regulating the internet = giving the government power
>the government has tried to censor things through indirect means i.e. leftist media
>the next step is to enforce censorship through direct means

thinking more closely about it, the guy was probably a shill because those leaps in logic make no sense.

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>>133543018
Yes goyim keep watching Facebook videos! No degeneracy at all! Think of all the children that won't have access to all of the wonderful Facebook news videos if Facebook goes down

>bunch of faggots in favor of more government regulations
>it's everyone else who are the shills

Leave it as it is, don't fucking touch it at all, not with (((protections))) or any of those other trojan horse words. Remember the patriot act? Yeah, so patriotic, spying on everybody all the time.

>>133542752
>The whole reason NN got passed back in 2015 was to ensure a free and open internet.

It was passed to cover up the MPAA's and RIAA's embarassing losses when SOPA and PIPA got shut down.

The same anti-peering and NSA monitoring line items are in the NN rules. But they renamed it to make you happy.

>>133535658
The US constitution prevents the US government from infringing on peoples' right to free speech.

If the US government begins such censorship you have the right to pursue legal action about it. This avenue does not exist if the corporations are censoring information instead.

Now, look at the mainstream media on cable TV. And look at Project Mockingbird created by the CIA.

The cable TV corporations are actively censoring and misleading the public, and they are doing so with the help of government agencies behind the scenes. They've managed to create a censorship program while skirting around the Constitution and they would do the same thing using internet providers if Net Neutrality didn't exist to stop them.

>>133534496
/thread

the internet is a series of tubes

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>>133543210
>get called out for slipping up on your targeted speech.
>"i- its not like this subreddit has global rules enforcing a specific dialect or anything, you're just the REAL shill here"

that's your damage control? lmao, look at him squirm.

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>>133542546
>You honestly think NN is what's keeping the Federal Kike Kommission and the (((NSA))) from censoring the internet?

It's one of the things stopping the ISPs from doing it

Comcast has tried to throttle speeds and implement caps on how much data you can use in a month to sabotage their competition like Netflix while prioritising their own shitty service by not slowing speeds or capping data. The only thing that stopped them from doing this was net neutrality laws and they were still able to keep the data caps in many places.

>>133542980
> OH NOES MUH NETFLIX

Yes, yes! Go watch Sex Junk 2.0, goyim!

>>133539276
>NSA
kek

>>133542869
That's literally not what I said. I said neither the government nor the Corporations should have control of it.

>>133543435
>Leave it as it is, don't fucking touch it at all
This
Why the fuck do we feel the need to change things all the time?

Net Neutrality is needed but there needs to be a law that tells the entertainment industry to fuck off and stop forcing ISPs to fork over their customers info and sending warning letters for downloading.

>>133534342
>Without Net Neutrality the jews can legally censor opinions
NN has nothing to do with that. All it does is prevent ISPs from charging high traffic sites with shitty CDNs extra money for the costs their piss poor infrastructure incurs, which in turn makes it impossible for new ISPs to pop up without insane investment, and guess what? The cost current ISPs pay gets passed on to YOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUU. Enjoy paying for Tyrone's netflix!

>>133543591
Why is netflix the strawman you shills use?
What about 4chan? Surely ISPs would fucking love to throttle any alternative news sites/""hate speech""" sites and provide a fast lane to leftist drivel.

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Goy-I mean anons, Net Neutrality is nothing more than a major government intrusion into your lives and the free market put into place by Obongo. Why would you support this instead of simply allowing consumer choice to reward ISPs that decide not to throttle and restrict their customers' internet connections?

>>133543532
>OH NOES I CAN'T ARGUE A SINGLE POINT!

Please, keep gobbling down the NSA's hairy dick.

>>133543751
THIS
THIS
THIS
THIS

This cannot be argued with. Without Net Neutrality, corporations will censor 4chan. This cannot be argued with. if you're arguing that the government would censor it, then why haven't they?

>>133543871
This has nothing to do with the NSA(what the fuck did that even come from?) and everything to do with stopping ISPs from throttling your internet for using certain sites or providing fast lanes to sites that support them/their agenda.

>>133543751
Because (((netflix))) and kikebook are the ones clogging up the internet with shit like Sex Junk and whatever cucketry zuckerberg is trying to shill this week.

They deserve to pay whatever the fuck comcast wants to charge them.

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>>133537843
>Use 38% of the water
>Pay for that water like anyone else would have to
>WAAAAH THEY ARE PAYING FOR THE WATER

The fuck do you ancap retards want? Fucking socialism?

The ISP's aren't being prevented from raising their prices. They're being preventing from shaping traffic and censoring the internet to push their own programs that result in creating actual monopolies and reducing the free market. Removing net neutrality and allowing the ISP's to start throttling traffic will destroy several major businesses in the tech sector of the market on top of things, even further destroying business and the free market.

You are not only actively arguing in favor of megacorporations trying to fuck people over, but you are actively arguing against your own fucking ideology at the same time.

No wonder people call ancaps a bunch of paid corporate dicksuckers.

>>133543846
>ISP
>Customer choice

Wew. The founder of Comcast was a Jew and you just leave to be to be cucked by them. Do you really want to rely on antitrust laws to protect you from a small number of corporations conspiring to maximize profit while minimizing content? Kys shill

>>133543591
I really didn't want to respond to you because I desperately want to believe you're trolling or shilling, but here goes
Netflix and Facebook have nothing to do with this
ISPs sold customers(us) internet plans for specific speeds and data limits, and many people use those to download movies
That was a contractual agreement, and now ISPs are trying to weasel out of it by restricting service that's responsible for a large share of bandwidth, even though they already agreed to provide it
Because telling your customers you're trying to downgrade their service without any compensation doesn't go over well for PR, they've made up the smokescreen that this is somehow the fault of content providers including but not limited to Netflix and Google, even though they aren't the ones getting punished by the removal of net neutrality - it's you, who will have to pay out the ass for the service you used to get for less, assuming they even give you the option

NN is fucking reddittor leftist shit. Fuck off. There's a lot of degenerate stuff on the internet that needs to be censored.

>>133544092
Why should Netflix have to pay Comcast when their customers are already paying Comcast for the transfer of data from Netflix to themselves?

>>133544395
This is what I've been trying to say this whole thread.

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>>133544092
>They deserve to pay whatever the fuck comcast wants to charge them.

Again, missing the point that this wouldn't be exclusive to Netflix, but also everyone else and the end user.

Fucking kill yourself shill.

And it would also help (((Comcast))) spread and prioritize degeneracy like this on the internet, while throttling access to sites that speak out against it.

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>>133544275
Yeah, because monopolies are much more respectful of their customers once they become a (((public utility))).

>>133544475
>AHHHH CENSOR THE INTERNET BECAUSE SOME STUFF ON IT HURT MY FEE FEES
You're just the same as a fucking feminist.

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It's so obvious who the anti-NN ((((((((shills)))))))))) are

>>133544092
>They deserve to pay whatever the fuck comcast wants to charge them.
And they already do.

How do you retards not get this?

This isn't about "netflix and google paying their share", it's about corporate censorship of the internet and control of political narratives and discourse. And it's about maintaining service provider monopolies and fucking YOU in the ass.

Google and Netflix buy 100L of water and pay $100 for it.
You buy 100L of water and pay $100 for it.
Google and Netflix increase water usage and need 200L, they now pay their provider $300 for 200L.
If you wanted to use 200L of water, you would also need to pay $300.

This is how it ALREADY WORKS RIGHT NOW.

What the anti-NN retards are arguing in favor of is market collusion, market monopolies, less freedom of choice, more internet censorship, and higher prices. NOTHING they are arguing for is good for you.

>>133544475
move to china you fucking communist

>>133539691
>us
>checks flag
you on vacation burgerbro?

>>133544662
>What the anti-NN retards are arguing in favor of is market collusion, market monopolies, less freedom of choice, more internet censorship, and higher prices. NOTHING they are arguing for is good for you.
because they're all fucking shills.
no one on 4chan would be arguing for the censorship for the site that they spend their fucking lives on.

>>133543975
Wrong, summerfag redditard. Net neutrality was just passed by King Nigger.

Protip: 4chan has existed longer than last year.

>>133544616
Fuck off degenerate leftist cunt.

>>133544519
Because they connect to Comcast's network. That's why. If they want to deliver content for free, they are welcome to string up the fiber lines to do so.

Hell, Netflix can afford it, they probably should.

>>133544596
What?

>>133544832
I'm sorry, but that isn't an argument.
>>133544813
And thanks to it, the internet is now a utility, so you can't be charged more depending on how you choose to use it.
And this a bad thing how?

>>133544813
Net Neutrality was passed in 2015, so why hasn't the government censored anything yet?

>pussies reeeing on this board
>Ancap bashers finna succ the government's dick
>Shills

This is fucking pathetic. This thread is truly the swamp of /pol/

>>133544395
I don't use Netflix or google because I'm not a shill from another board. Why should I subsidize the shitty websites you use, Shaquan? Those websites use a tremendous amount of bandwidth and cost ISPs money, which in turn raises the price of their service, as they are no longer able to charge those websites extra without going through a lengthy court battle, so everyone who uses the ISP has to bear the burden of the cost, regardless of whether or not they use those websites.. This is literally internet welfare. Go fuck yourself.

>>133544970
Because this has nothing to do with government censorship (which isn't even a fucking issue, the constitution prevents the government from censoring free speech) but instead a corporate censorship issue.
God these fucking shills

>>133544616
NN has NOTHING to do with censorship.

>>133544475
>needs to be censored.
Jesus Christ, you FUCKING treasonous faggot

>>133544876
>hey dur this is a Chevy road. If you wanna drive a Ford you gotta find a Ford road. No Ford road? Go build one.

>>133534342
This thread needs to be continued on a daily basis

>>133545068
And you want to give the corporations the power to censor stuff and throttle it without a fight?

>>133537992
It's interesting how the shills label you a shill.

>>133544986
ancaps seriously think this will lead to less government

LOL

>>133544952
>And thanks to it, the internet is now a utility, so you can't be charged more depending on how you choose to use it.
>And this a bad thing how?

Because if you want to fill up a swimming pool, and drain the entire town's water tower, you'll get fined and possibly arrested.

If you want to host video on a website, and clog up the ISP's bandwidth, you'll get throttled or possibly have your network connection settled. If you don't agree to act within the limits of your service provider, feel free to dig a well or start running cable.

>>133544876
Netflix presumably pays another provider for uploading to the Internet as a whole.

Does it make sense that if you host a shitty blog to have to pay each and every ISP that your users use?

>>133545171
No, this is a lefty/pol/ raid. Everyone in this thread needs to be banned.

>>133545206
You idiot. Repealing NN will give corporations the power to do that shit.
Keeping it will stop it.

>>133534342
Fucking bumped for truth.

>>133545334
Anon, I want to keep NN. I'm not an anti-NN shill.

>>133545154
If Chevrolet and Ford were contracted to build private roads, then yes. And good, I wouldn't be caught dead driving a government motors recall mess.

>>133544585
Phillip Seymour Hoffman is alive and forks for GE

>>133545285
If you are hogging up bandwidth maybe you should. Keep sucking Soros dick. He loves useful idiots shilling for Netflix

>>133545334
Both sides are run by companies trying to fuck over the internet. It's pretty simple really. No matter what happens the consumers are fucked

>>133544952
You ARE charged more now and you get slower speeds thanks to King Nigbongo. Also, there is far more government monitoring of the net because of it. It fucked everything up by creating exclusivity contracts with ISPs.

>>133544970
That's not the point at all. Nobody is censoring anything. That was King Nog propaganda and you ate it up.
>shilled by Soros, commies, Obongo, and libshits like current year man
>socialism for the Internet
>has already caused hundreds of small ISPs to go out of business due to regulation
>allows Jewbook and big tech to get your data
>you pay more because high bandwidth companies share the price with you

>>133537843
Stop repeating this it's stupid. The cost of bandwidth is practically negligible.

>>133534342
Yeah, it is the anti-NN who are shills. All of those billion dollar companies who spend millions lobbying and advertising on their websites to promote NN are just doing it to protect our freedoms.

>>133538801
>that fee you paid for bandwidth? that was assuming you werent going to get all the normies all requesting 4k gilmore girls at the same time

....it 100% does account for all the normies requesting 4k gilmore girls at the same time.
Holy fuck you don't even understand how internet communication, provision, bandwidth, etc even WORK

Netflix pays for 1 Terabyte data
Users download normal youtube videos and use 500GB of data
This is okay

Netflix pays for 1 terabyte data
Users download 4k videos and use 500GB of data
You think this is an outrage and Netflix is cheating the system

You're certified insane/retarded or outright lying and shilling for the thieving ISP monopolies.

>>133545365
Fucking based dude, here have an upvote

>>133545285
Netflix pays whatever provider services their datacenters. Once again, Netflix has the money to do it themselves, but they know relying on an ISP is infinitely more convenient.

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>>133535658
/pol/ in a nutshell.

>>133545529
Are you implying that corporations won't do that if NN is appealed?

>>133545109
It prevents the ISP's from censoring the internet and controlling what you can see, where you can visit.

It has EVERYTHING to do with censorship.

>>133545529
>You ARE charged more now and you get slower speeds thanks to King Nigbongo
And it'd be even worse if NN was repealed and every ISP decided to throttle whatever they wanted.

>>133545519
Mesh net and IPFS

Get into it and see what you can do to help keep the internet free.

>>133545468
There are no publically funded ISPs. In many places there is just one ISP. It is anticompeteative by nature.

>>133545109
It has everything to do with corporations decided to censor anything that goes against their agenda.
Or slowing down highly used sites and providing a "fast lane" to their own sites.

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>>133545564

>>133545551
Netflix pays for 1 terabyte data

normies flood on the next House of Cards episode and drain 2 terabytes of data

Netflix gets throttled,

Netflix cries and stamps its foot saying they're being targeted by comcast.

fuck off

>don't own an ISP
>provide no access to 4chan with a network

>own an ISP
>4chan's blocked by default unless you pay $
How is the ISP in the wrong and I'm not?

>>133545986
There is no price difference between 1 terabyte of data and 1000 terabytes of data. They all cost exactly the same. It's a stupid meme to imply that bandwidth costs anything.

>>133540878
>At least you can boycott corporations.
You can vote for politicians, and in the US you have the highest law in the land that protects your right to free speech. The number of options you have to fight internet censorship by the government is fucking incredible, and you want to throw that away so unaccountable corporations can censor you without recourse?

Are you fucking retarded?

>>133545779
You're retarded. We didn't have net neutrality for 30 years. THIRTY FUCKING YEARS before Nignongo shilled it through. There was never any censorship. That was never a thing.

This is all about government controlling the Internet, companies stealing your data, ISPs being able to charge higher prices, and you take it all in the ass like a BBC because you've been told it's "to prevent censorship".

>>133545813
>net neutrality doesn't exist
>net neutrality is signed into law
>prices go up
>"if we get rid of net neutrality prices will be even worse"
Do you have brain damage?

>>133545981

So much fucking this bro dude ham! Thanks for the gold!

>>133538801
Then charge by data usage or speed you dumb fuck. What does it matter where the data comes from?

>>133545035
You don't subsidize anything. You pay for the plan you want, that's how it already works. Americans already pay far more for worse speeds and lower data caps than people throughout the first world because of our miserable infrastructure, reinforced by ISP monopolies and collusion. You're shilling for the very same jew corporations fucking you up the ass.

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>>133539696

Elaborate here. Are you claiming that currently in the US, everyone pays the same for internet access, and because google are paying the same as a home user would, they jack up the contention ratio?

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>>133544661

Yes goy!

We really need to protect those poor little ISPs' freedoms to rip everyone off and censor us! That's just the "free market", and not censorship since only the government can censor people!

If you disagree you're a "statist"!

>>133545884
>It is anticompeteative by nature.

Why yes, because you don't want 6 sets of phone poles running across the city.

Wait, actually, one pole can support multiple telecoms plus the power grid. But that doesn't happen because GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS prevent telecoms from running on the same poles together.

>>133546162
>You're retarded. We didn't have net neutrality for 30 years
Because it was only recently that ISPs started to become hyper-jews and try to turn the internet into a fucking cable TV package.

>>133545790
>It has EVERYTHING to do with censorship.

So why didn't the ISPs ever censor the internet before 2015?

This is the stupidest lie ever.

>>133541726
>Nah, they can sell whatever the fuck they want. If kikebook or netflix goes over what they agreed in their CONTRACT, they should get turned off.
You retard, that is exactly what happens. If they go over their agreed upon contractual amounts, they pay more or they get cut off.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT NOW HOLY FUCK HOW ARE YOU THIS STUPID

Netflix isn't going over the bandwidth they're paying for. The ISP's just want to nickle and dime them and control traffic and charge more for preferential service or give preferential service to their own competing programs they're trying to pit against Netflix.

e.g. they want to throttle netflix (unless netflix pays out the ass to not be throttled) and then they want to provide their own competing service to customers that does what netflix does, but isn't throttled because they're the ones running and providing the service.

HOW IS IT SO FUCKING HARD FOR YOU TO FIGURE OUT???

>>133546344
Marx didn't even identify as a jew, he was raised Christian and was a German nationalist.

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You're all retarded tbqh famalam. When did /pol/ take hard-left stances on issues? What the fuck?

>>133546160
>you can vote for politicians
Don't vote and can't complain. Vote and consent to the outcome.

If you don't buy a Coke you aren't stuck paying for Pepsi.

>fighting the government
The government can just deny the case.

>>133546159
There sure is, if Netflix violates their contract, they SIGNED, to use an amount they AGREED ON.

> There is no price difference between 1 terabyte of data and 1000 terabytes of data. They all cost exactly the same.
And you're full of shit anyway. If anything you said were true, I could host all of Youtube on my 1TB NAS drive.

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>>133546487
They DID.

THAT'S WHY WE GOT THE NET NEUTRALITY LAW PASSED IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU COLOSSAL RETARD

>>133546532
>being this naive

>>133546487
THEY DID, YOU MORON.

There have been multiple controversies where companies intentionally blocked sites like 4chan and throttled netflix.

>>133546299

Nope there are different pricing models based on businesses and larger contracts. This is a tug of war between companies like Facebook, Netflix and ISPs. Net neutrality increased prices and ISPs still throttle residential and business users. Unfortunately this is all big money and getting the government involved is just going to make things worse

>>133534342
> M-muh Internet before 2015!

What they don't realize and what takes 10 second of research is the FCC has taken a pro-net neutrality stance since 2004

>>133546373
So remove the regulations regarding monopolies rather than giving companies the right to restrict content. Why do you want to be double cucked?

>>133546487
they fucking did
THATS WHY IT WAS SIGNED IN THE FIRST PLACE

>>133546436
They can still turn it into a cable TV package if they want. This does not eliminate price structuring and that would be communist anyway. The difference is how NN has shut down hundreds of small ISPs so all the business goes to the big ones like Comcast, and how you're now forced to subsidize Jewbook, Jewgle, and Jewflix when they steal all the bandwidth.

>>133546492
If Netflix doesn't want to pay to use SOMEONE ELSE's service, they are free to start running wire. I'd welcome it.

>>133546561
Says the socialist corporate cumsponge actively trying to destroy the free market against his own purported ideological beliefs.

Go fuck yourself, shill. You can't even maintain your online persona convincingly.

>>133534342

man people are dumb if they didn't know this.

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>>133546850
Do you know what a "free market" is? Have you read anything about politics? How old are you?

>>133546766
Because the ISP is providing a useful service. The government is not giving you a damn thing.

>remove regulations
And I'll take one helping of world peace and a cure for cancer, served in a Leprechaun's pot of gold, thank you.

>>133546785
>>133546663
Wrong. No website was ever censored. Prove it.

>>133546651
Marx literally wanted to annex Eastern Europe for Germany. He was literally a proto Hitler.

>>133538194
How will eliminating NN stop them from monitoring you?
>Shills can never answer this question

>>133544986
>This thread is truly the swamp of /pol/
>6 gorillion posts by this ID

k

>>133547144
http://gizmodo.com/5466492/verizon-has-blocked-access-to-4chan-but-what-are-they-gonna-do-about-it

>>133546839
>If Netflix doesn't want to pay to use SOMEONE ELSE's service, they are free to start running wire. I'd welcome it.

They actually can't.

Because the ISP's colluded together to create monopolies all across the US and got local governments to sign vendor-lock-in contracts that prevent any competition, even if the city government wants to pay all the costs and run their own infrastructure themselves, they're being legally prevented from doing it by the market regulations the ISP's have purchased to enforce their defacto monopolies.

This is the real problem that these ISP's are trying to deflect criticism from. They BOUGHT their monopolies. They don't want competition and are actively fighting against allowing competition.

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>>133535658
Unironically, unfunnily, cleanly, quickly, and I mean this with every letter on my breath, kill yourself.

>>133547141
You're the snowflake bitching about regulatory monopolies and yet you STILL want to give them the ability to restrict content. Cucked to the extreme.

>>133547218
Jewbook has contracts with the biggest ISPs and the government to get your data. They couldn't do this so easily if NN didn't exist.

Jewbook is also raising the amount you pay for Internet by stealing the bandwidth.

>>133547218
Because of the PRISM line items written into Net Neutrality in 2015 to bring the program back.

Or did Nigbongo not mention that in his speech.

>>133547061
There's a concerted anti-NN propaganda effort on /pol/ that started yesterday.

We're all well aware, but newfags might not be, and a number of people were a bit confused on how it all worked because of corporate obfuscation. However, these threads are informing more and more people, which is a good thing.

I've been capping posts that give good explanations so I can repost them in later threads and help normies or fence sitters really understand the situation better.

>>133546624
>They DID.
Evidence? You are a fucking retard repeating some stupid propaganda written by a PR person for a hundred billion dollar company.

I think they can probably defend themselves just fine without you.

>>133547296
>local monopolies
Irrelevant to the enforcement of NN.

>>133547277
>Verizon blocks DDOS attacks harassing their network
>censorship
Really?

>>133547296
So it's up to the monopoly-enforcing government to de-monoplolize the internet.

I know you're a leaf, but come on.

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>>133534342
Reminder that once a government can begin passing laws to help, they begin passing laws to regulate in the name of freedom

Reminder that for ten years before the 2015 passing of the NN laws, Comcast didn't cap any data or regulate it in any way.

Reminder that there are literally a dozen threads already up about this, and you (and all of them) are thereby in violation of board rules.

Reminder that OP is a faggot.
Sage all the fields

>>133547527
Why yes, if Comcast cucks Kikebook and (((netflix))) I wouldn't give two shits.

>>133546697
>Net neutrality increased prices
No it didn't

These fucking blatant lies, holy shit.

>>133547901
Dumb leaf. Net neutrality created monopolies overnight. Now companies like Comcast control everything and were able to raise prices through exclusivity contracts with the government.

Prices have gone up. This is a documented fact.

>>133539308
>this meme image again
Come on. This shit has been floating around for years and it's completely baseless. This is the wet dream of a conspiracy theorist. No ISP actually wants to do this.

>b-but I live in rural Alabama and only have one choice of ISP, there's nothing stopping them from screwing me
Move to a civilized part of the world where monopolies don't exist.

>>133547822
Reminder that your market regulation will destroy business and wipe out an entire sector of the market.

You are actively campaigning against your own purported ideology.

>>133547878
Pro-cuck? You'd do well in Sweden.

>>133535368

This, the dumbest motherfuckers around.

>>133547764
>believing their lies

>>133548175
Net neutrality didn't create ANY monopolies you fucking retard.

All you shills can do at this point is repeat lies over and over.

Net Neutrality prevents these companies from censoring and restricting content access.

The monopolies have been created by ISP's purchasing vendor lock in contracts with local goverments, actively preventing comeptition.

You blatantly lying fucksticks are unbelievable.

ITT: people practice their shilling/LARPing skills

>>133537843

I love the new flags. It's so easy to tell who is a massive moron now regardless where they are from.

>>133548269
I was thinking the same about you. There's no bigger cuck than a statist like you.

But don't worry, the goverment will take care of you.

>>133548209
It never happened because we petitioned and fought for laws to prevent it from happening.

>>133548310
>/b/ is a gud board dindu nuffin. goin ta church erryday an neva ddos nobody in dey lyfe.

>>133534496
There were more than 16 anti-NN threads running simultaneously yesterday when I was on, you'd like to think it's obvious but apparently not.

>>133534342

Net Neutrality is a Jewish conspiracy to bring further control of the internet into government hands. Soon they will censor all offensive work and imprison any who questions (((Google)))

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>>133548219
Reminder that I'm an ancap and advocate for literally the opposite of market regulations.

Reminder that repealing net neutrality laws is the exact opposite of regulating.

Reminder that once (((they))) have their foot in the door, next it'll be some more laws passed to further regulate the internet, because "well last time you were okay with it!"

A fucking leaf.

>>133548380
Fuck you leaf. Net neutrality caused hundreds of small ISPs to go out of business because they were unable to comply with the government regulations. That is the definition of monopoly creation.

>>133548536
/b/ is our sister board. Like it or not, we need to defend their right to do what they want. Even if it's illegal, we report them and move on. Letting corporations decide that they're not allowed to exist goes against everything we hold dear.

>>133547901
So many people on this board are fucking schizo morons, they'll fucking latch on to one piece of information that just kinda *clicks* for them and shit it out ad naseum. It's quite crazy but helps to explain a lot of threads really.

>>133548702
Reminder that you are an (((ancap))) arguing for the destruction of a market through corporation-bought market regulation.

You are actively campaigning to allow one market segment to throttle and eliminate another market segment via laws and regulations. The EXACT OPPOSITE of a free market proponent.

You are a lying corporate shill hiding behind the ancap ideology. Gas yourself at any time.

>>133548709
What "market regulation" were these "hundreds of small ISP's" "unable to comply with"?

>>133548820
Pro-tip: kike-neutrality still allows Verizon to shut down /b/ if they start going on another DDOS-ing spree against the Verizon network.

>>133548477
>hey dur government regulations encouraging anticompetative behavior is bad
>therefore, all regulations are bad
>preventing anticompetative behavior is good, but there is a regulation so it must be bad
Hope you like Cuckcast-only content

>>133534342
I'm for NN, I'm also for getting the monopoly removed for internet providers so I don't have to deal with shitty internet

>>133549126
So why isn't /b/ shut down now?

>>133543230
It would protect us from corporate censorship by making it so liberal technology companies wouldn't be able to throttle speech they disagree with and stick it behind an ID verify paywall.

>>133549132
>Hope you like Cuckcast-only content

You mean like NBC and Paramount? The US government is ALREADY protecting cuckast only content, and you think (((they))) will do anything to restrict that?

>>133549135
Not to worry, friend! The government will take care of you.

>>133548999
Need an example you FUCKING leaf?
>KWISP Internet serves 475 customers in rural northern Illinois. As a result of the regulatory uncertainty and costs created by the FCC’s decision, KWISP plans to delay network upgrades that would have upgraded customers from 3Mbps to 20Mbps service, new tower construction that would have brought service to unserved areas, and capacity upgrades that would reduce congestion for existing customers—not to mention the jobs needed to make all of that happen. KWISP worries that even a frivolous lawsuit brought under the Order could force ownership to ‘close the business.’

Hell the Internet provider right across the street from our house went out of business because of King Nigger's nogging. So don't pretend this (((net-neutrality))) bullshit is anything more than a kike scam.

>>133549281
Because they haven't attacked the Verizon network again? Where exactly is the confusion here?

>>133541522
Wrong, if you really don't like private companies running your cables just vote for the municipality to create a government run cable company. So actually corporations don't have a monopoly.

>>133549557
you actually think they attacked verizon the first time? How daft are you?

>>133549831
>Verizon is just making up lies like usual
>that would totally be out of character for an upstanding place like /b/

>>133534342
/pol/ discusses the hot topic and represents both sides.
>Of course the shill accusations will mount.

>>133538194
>A jew is against another jew
This happens all the time. Do you think they suppress their greed among other kikes? This is why some jews are poor and others are rich. In this case, having them pitted against each other is good for us.

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>>133534342
>raided by anti-NN
>>133547672
>concerted anti-NN propaganda effort on /pol/ that started yesterday.
Bullfuckingshit. Yesterday was the "Day of Action" so basically everyone who opened Firefox got a NN spiel. No wonder why it's such a hot topic.

>no (you)s to my posts so far

>>133535658
I don't know if those are shills responding to this guy like he's completely wrong. I'd say that I'm at least slightly FOR NN, but let's look at this objectively:
>FOR NN: Google, Facebook, Amazon, Hillary Clinton, George Soros, Reddit, CNN
>AGAINST NN: Trump, Comcast, TWC, ATT
There has to be more to this than we currently understand, and it is good to be skeptical.

>>133534342
>giving the feds more power to solve imaginary problems
Go gas yourself kike

>>133550077
At least /b/ is honest with their shitposting. Verizon just wants money.

>>133534342
having heavy bandwidth users pay more makes sense though doesnt it?

>>133550481
>giving

stop using this word.

being pro-NN changes N O T H I N G.

its gives no one new power, it gives no one control over your data.
being ANTI-NN is the kike mentality, suckiling on corporate cock to GIVE control where there was none before.

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>>133546850
>ANCAP
>Destroying the free market

Pick one.

>>133550397
I 'would be' for it, but daddy government gets to have the Federal Censorship Commission and the (((NSA))) enforce it. I'll support NN when enforcement is handed to NASA and the NSF, not more statist 'agencies'.

>>133537843
>nigger streaming anime while watching porn and playing Overwatch will now have to pay more than me, who just browses 4chan 99% of the time

Woah

>>133548999
The local telecom companies had to sell their services to large national telecom companies at a fixed rate,which the FCC was given the power to set by the Telecommunications act of 1996, the Baby Bell companies could not afford to handle the traffic created by the large ISPs at the price the government was forcing to sell at.

The local telecomms also couldn't come up with other ways to absorb or offset set the costs by creating tiered traffic because they were forced to remain net neutral as the Baby Bell companies were classified a common carriers.

The local telecomms eventually won the right to set their rates for national ISPs using their services. The local telecomms were still common carriers so any attempts to offered tiered service or prioritize service on their local network vs traffic going to nations ISPs was still illegal, the only choice was to charge the ISPs more and the cost was too great for many ISPs which were operating under business model with artificially low costs thanks to the government and many of them disappeared
And now we have an oligopoly of ISPs

This is how Net Neutrality kills competition and innovation

>>133550707
>NN - government has control to regulate internet
>no-NN - government doesn't have that control

???????

>>133548702
imagine if you had to pay for a utility in line with your usage when it came to the basic essentials like water or electricity
... oh right it works perfectly fine

>>133550707
The Feds could not regulate local ISPs until they declared them common carriers
There was no problem in 2015
NN is a trojan horse for more federal regulations

>>133548898
>arguing for the destruction of a market
>through corporation-bought market regulation

I can't decide if you're retarded, or trolling.

>actively campaigning to allow one market segment to throttle and eliminate another market segment via laws and regulations

Hey leaf, I think you have me confused. I want deregulation and law repeals.

>The EXACT OPPOSITE of a free market proponent.

You are correct. Somebody who wants laws and regulations to be passed is, by the technical definition, against the free market. So why are you accusing me of being against the free market? My entire structure of belief revolves around letting the free market regulate itself, without ANY government or corporate intervention (the latter being impossible due to the nature of the free market).

I think you have Ancaps confused with Ancoms. Better dead than red.

>>133534342
Reddit, plz

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>/pol/ is willing to support one of the most Jewish causes ever if it means they can get fast anime porn

(((Net neutrality))) is the biggest kike scam that this site ever fell for.

>>133550891
Imagine if you had to switch ISPs in a major city because the current one is [insert some valid concern/bullshit rant/bitching here].

... Oh right, for the most part you can only choose between subsidiaries of the same parent company.

Deregulate it all, faggot.

>give
>gives power
>gives the FCC
>gives government

This. Is. Not. An. Argument.

No one is going to be given power by blocking the anti-NN bill. All iit does is stops us from giving power where there was none. currently the internet is free and open, repealing net neutrality (even title ii) REGULATES the internet.

>government has control to regulate internet
And how have they controled it so far? since thats how we've operated for 25 years? oh right, they haven't done shit, and don't have the power to regulate it.
>>133550965
Good, government regulation on major oligarchies is GOOD FOR THE CONSUMER. because history has shown monopolies that corner the market will act in their own self interest. not the consumer. NN protects you, the people, the internet.

Not all regulations are bad. now tell me government regulation on monopolies and blocking merges is bad too.

>>133551170
states can regulate ISPs if they become a problem

>>133545537
netflix already was clogging the pipes and as video bitrates continue to increase it will absolutely become a problem somewhere down the line
standard tragedy of the commons stuff
wouldnt surprise me if ISPs start actually giving away basic internet usage once this goes through so they can get people in and charge for overages

>>133550787
False equivalency. You may not be using your entire lane on the highway and they are. Doesn't mean they should be penalized. ISPs sell a lane on the highway. It costs them the same whether you use the lane or not. They're trying to equate it to electricity or water or some finite resource. The issue with bandwidth isn't how much total is used necessarily but how much is used at one time. They sell 10mbps, by speed. Why do you think someone's gaming would be shitty if someone else is tormenting and watching Netflix? Because it's already throttled by the rate. If ISPs can't support all of their users having 10mbps at the same time they should stop advertising they can. If you aren't getting what you pay for you're already getting jewed.

>>133549463
That doesn't actually specify any regulations. It just says "in anticipation of regulations we cucked ourselves"

But you're monumentally retarded so it's not surprising that you offer crap like this as proof that net neutrality has done anything to diminish the free market when it's actually the monopolies buying and bribing their way into monopolist positions with state governments.

Which, unsurprisingly, you keep ignoring and pretending isn't happening.

Net Neutrality isn't the problem, the anti-free-market ISP's are.

>>133551239
You still have not addressed the issue that there was no fucking problem in 2015

>>133551239
comcast and verizon should be split into a thousand pieces and scattered to the winds

>>133550761
>pretending to be an ancap
>meanwhile actively pushing for the destruction of a free market
>when you get called out claim you're an ancap and that you wouldn't do it

You're shit at your job

>>133551407
Netflix should be outlawed

>>133551239
NN already gave the government the power. If you're shilling to keep it, then you're shilling for them to maintain that power. Investment in net infrastructure is down since NN passed, it has hurt the consumer, and all to "fix" a problem that never existed for the entire life of the net.

>>133551390
>Net Neutrality isn't the problem, the anti-free-market ISP's are.
this
theyve already recouped their initial infrastructure expenditure costs and then some
time to tell them to get fucked

>>133550884
No, NN = ISPs can't regulate your internet
NN gone = ISPs can regulate it.

The government telling someone they can't regulate something isn't the same as the government regulating it.

>>133551253
Because that's working out great right now.

>What are cable company monopolies held up by anti-competition LAWS

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>>133551611
The federal government are satanic kikes and I will never support them telling anybody in this country to do anything

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>>133551460
Do you even read what you write leaf?

>>133551611
Yes, yes it is. ISPs don't have the force of law on their side. If your ISP is shit, get a new one. If you can't (and most of the country can) then bitch about it on reddit and get 5,000,000 to boycott the ISP until they stop. That's how a free market works.

>>133534342
>>133535873
You are the shills, you fucking reddit cocksucker

>>133550891
No, those are finite resources. Removing NN is more like letting your electric company tell you it only supports Sony TVs unless you want to pay an extra $25 a month for Samsung support but good luck with an offhand like Hisense because they currently don't support that TV.

>>133551698
>Because that's working out great right now.
My internet works fine
Why would I push more more regulations?

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>>133551850
It's as if none of you are reading what I'm writing.

I want DEregulation. I don't want net neutrality, because that involves passing MORE legislature.

>>133551753
Good luck saying this or finding likeminded people on the internet when ISPs can now block sites that don't agree with their agenda then

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>Thinking removing NN is a regulation.

>>133551394
But there was. Comcast was finding slimer and slimer ways to strong arm companies into paying more (netflix, youtube ect) there is proof of them throttling netflix. because it can make them more money.

Never in the past has bandwidth been so streamlined into one service that it would have been economically feasible for them to throttle one particular service until more data was gathered and the internet developed more.

>>133551573
you are the shill, shilling for companies to control anything and everything we see. 4chan literally wouldn't exist if Time warner (who owns CNN) had their way. /pol/ specifically since its against their narative.

Think about that. Would you rather the government (who has to pass laws which we the people elect representatives to go against) have the control (which the have not used historically, and in fact will likely never use).

OR private companies, of which you can do N O T H I N G about. who have shown they will abuse the power if given it? you have to be retarded beyond belief to believe the latter, brainwashed in theo "gubmint is ebil" agdenda to believe giving private companies who only give a shit about profit the ability to control what we see and brainwash us further.

>>133551764
>just get a new one
THAT'S NOT AN OPTION WHEN THEY'VE BEEN PUSHED OUT OF BUSINESS.