Obesity

stop subsidizing corn. It is really that simple.

>>133507800
You stupid fuck, the hot dog there isn't that big. I've had it. They just make it look way bigger in the picture. Also this is a COSTCO which is a bulk supermarket for MEMBERS only. The food court doesn't even make money probably, but they do it because it brings in MEMBERS. That's why it's so cheap. It's like a thank you for being a Member.

And also there is an obesity problem, but this is a stupid example. Definitely not why we are fat dumbass.

>>133507800
Hotdogs are pretty low calorie

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stop cutting parts of people's dicks off, that way they fap more often, care for their looks more, and don't have to "find pleasure" in eating

stop playing nigger music and over all remove nigger culture, in it fatter people are seen as more attractive

ban gmo and other trash in foods

change the "traditional" foods to smth that's not fast food

more manual labor jobs

There is no obesity epidemic. BBC says so
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/magazine-40505399/think-again-there-is-no-obesity-crisis

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This is actually why we're fat

>>133508161
The food court and rotisserie chicken lose Costco money on every sale. The owner wanted every member to be able to eat

>>133508559
That looks delicious

>>133508559
Seems worth it.

>>133508161
My Costco actually has an outdoor food court. You don't have to be a member to get food at it.

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>>133507996

>>133507800
Kill all fat people and their disgusting bodies.

There is no problem, it's natural selection. The only thing we need to fix is stop all disabilities for fat fucks.

We aren't subsidizing smokers and drinkers either.

>>133508604
>gimmick food served only at state fairs once a year
>this is what makes us fat

Come on, there's plenty of things you can say that makes us fat but this isn't it.

DON'T YOU EVER TALK BAD ABOUT COSTCO

>>133508559
Looks so salty

>>133508785
https://youtu.be/PIq-iiwVeBs?t=72

>>133507800
Fuck I could go for a Costco dog.

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>>133508404
>He fell for "GMO is bad" meme

>>133508930
>america has a high obesity rate
>posts eating contest which consists of mostly thin whites or asians

>>133508559
I want to FUCK that meat

>>133508404
>labeling for genetically engineered food
Every single food that exists today has been genetically modified by man. It's called agriculture.

>>133507800
Im definitely going to stop by cosco after work now. damn you anon

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Another real reason we're so fat

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>tfw Mexican Costcos have shrimp bakes

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>>133508930

I'm more a fan of Yuka Kinoshita.

>>133507800
And what do you do if you are already fat? I read that even if you lose it, it will now be harder to prevent getting fat than if you were a person who had never gotten fat in the first place. Seems like a huge problem.

>>133507800
wew

>>133509056
https://youtu.be/gP74xUyYaoo?t=66

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>>133509231
>MFW been on ketogenic diet for week and this pic made me cum.

>>133509312
Don't consume a caloric surplus. That's literally it.

>>133508161
>triggered fat boy

>>133508730
Ending corn subsidies would improve their economies, too. A world where everyone strives to beggar their neighbors for their own livelihood is a world with too appallingly many beggars. Subsidies are a violation of the supposedly solid midwestern work ethic, too. They're an unwanted imposition from Washington.

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>>133507800
>How do we solve the obesity problem in America?

We have to teach moderation. No more than four deep fried Twinkies per snack break.

>see American prices for lunch 1.50$
>see Reykjavik price for Burger fries well over 15$
JUST
U
S
T

>>133507800
>How do we solve the obesity problem in America?
Shoot everyone that worries more about other people than their own life.

Problem over.

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>>133507800
To buy that hotdog you have to first purchase a Costco membership $50.

If you were to use your membership to only purchase one of those hotdogs a year it would cost you $51.50 annually.

Over the course of 10 years 10 hotdogs could cost you $515

If they come in packages of 16
Which could potentially coat you $824

>Not so cheap now are they

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>>133509511
Pic related

>>133507800
12h/week of mandatory sports in school

>>133509412
Nah, your body rebels. Why else would people eat themselves into a meat prison and disability.

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>>133509285
>she will never perform in Lesbian Vomit JAVs

Such wasted talent.

>>133509520
You don't need membership to buy from the food stand, you fucking retard

>>133509581
I support this or everyone is required to have military training for 6 months

t. Fat American.

>>133509593
Because most people are weak-minded and give in to the simplest of impulses.

>>133509520
You can buy from food court without membership dumb fuck

>>133509714
get the fuck out of my country you communist piece of shit.

>>133509520
you dont have to have a membership

>>133507800
Want some hotdog with that garnish?

>>133509520
no you fucking don't. Can just walk in and buy a hottdog.

>>133509714
fascist

>>133509809
I aint communist I am the most right wing person you ever met.

>Supporting 1 or 2 social programs make you communist.

>>133509971
Thank you

>>133509520
Ever heard of a grocery store, faggot?

>>133507800

Take out the bun, the relish, and make sure the soda is sugar-free. There you are.

>>133507800
It's all the HFC drinks like pepsi and coke.

>>133507800

fuck you nigger they sell that shit at a LOSS.

polish and a slice of combo with tea is best Costco meal suck a dick otherwise

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>>133509984
don't try reasoning with it

>>133507800
Eat food with ingredients you can pronounce. Organic real food that isn't processed. Start there.

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>>133507800

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Absolute state of nihilistic capitalism.

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>bulk/cut cycle
>last year, break through the obesity BMI line for the first time
>feel like shit all the time even though it was a fairly clean bulk

I don't understand how people can maintain that lifestyle for years and even decades. I weighed 215 pounds for all of a month and it was miserable.

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>>133510105
>polish and a slice of combo

>>133507800
>1/4 pound
>Europeans think this is a lot of food.
Lol holy shit this is why you cucks keep getting blown the fuck out in your own countries. That's a snack to any man with more muscle mass than a prepubescent boy.

>>133509984
Found the RINO

The government has no business mandating a citizen to do anything.

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>>133509581
Does Madden count?

>>133507800
and free soda refiills eurocucks. How can you even compete?

>>133510320
lard-ass spotted

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>>133507800
>Implying there is anything wrong with that value
To answer your question? RAHOWA. But that isn't the answer so you want, so fuck you.

>>133507800
Have u ever had a kirkland hotdog? Youd be fat too

>>133508559

Who here salutes their BBQ before diggin in? I feel like If I joined the military I wouldn't fight and die for the country but just to protect our based BBQ.

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if you're not around 21 you're doing something wrong

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>>133510320
>No mention of guzzling down more than half a liter Jewca-Cola because that's normal in Burgerland.

>>133509520
>thinks you need a membership to buy from your food court
nigger its not a country club.

>>133510329
>I want infinite rights but none of the prerequisite responsibilities

Literally the same coin as communists.

>>133507800

What the fuck business is it of yours?

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>>133510269
Put these fat fucks in a room with endless supply of water and 2 hard-boiled eggs a day, and tell them if they want more that, there is an all you can eat buffet 2 miles away.

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>>133508559

>>133510299

Clearly it wasn't a clean bulk, fatboi

You know BMI doesn't apply to people who lift regularly right? According to the BMI charts, Arnold was "dangerously obese" at the height of his bodybuilding career

I usually get the hot dog and soda combo and a a sausage and pepper sandwich.

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>>133510317
Polish dog and this masterpiece

>>133510857
>that pic
Common is not the same as acceptable.

>>133510766

If you have no substantial muscle mass, maybe. I don't know any athletes, even at a hobby level, who are 21 or lower. Marathon runners, maybe.

>>133510957
>implying bodybuilders are healthy
>implying arnold doesn't now have the body of a formally obese person

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>>133508559
>>133509231
Looks tasty.

>>133508559
Im so fucking hungry REEEEE

Also, it isnt JUST what we eat, but the amount of calories we dont use. We sit down way too fucking much as a nation

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>>133507800
Death camps

....

im mean fat camps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5jVqOWioFo

>>133510828

>this is how stupid rinos actually are

I honestly don't understand why you retards don't just go back to the democratic party.

>>133507800
Russia pls, you could not handle the kind of abundance and freedom we have because your entire continent was cuckolded into starvation and serfdom how many times? HM? I CANNOT HEAR YOU POOR ASIATIC MAN...
The obese will die in obscurity, fat and happy. Did your useless populations die so well fed? No. They died in the bolshevik meatgrinder, and your people still bear the scars. Work hard russia bro, maybe china will make fun of how prosperous you are one day, maybe the asiatic sub-race will ascend to something resembling glory. Maybe you'll retake constantinople, but focusing on petty squabbles like this is not the way.

>>133510857

>this is an acceptable weight

Literally no one who isn't mentally ill believes this.

Why do you debase your own arguments with utter retardation?

>>133510957

Bruh I had that shit down to a 50 calorie margin of error a day, I just use more salad dressing than /fit/ likes.

And given the gear Arnie was on in the 70s, he probably had a similar risk index as fatties. That's why he stopped cycling tren and shit before he made Conan.

http://bodyvisualizer.com/

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>>133511352
Who are you calling Russia?

>>133510766
BMI is a fucking joke. BF% is literally the only important quality that matters

>>133511262
Are there any registered Republicans who actually agree with your nihilistic social worldview?

>>133511532

>nihilistic

You shouldn't use words you don't understand the meaning of.

There is nothing nihilistic about wanting a small government.

>>133507800
Fuck you costco hot dogs are delicious

>>133508559
Not if you have this in moderation

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>mfw stick-thin normies starve to death the first week after the apocalypse
>mfw fat people inherit the earth but have become healthy & skinny in agrarian feudal society
>mfw niggers back in the field, spics building muh pyramids, women are chattel & earth is finally a paradise

feels good to be fat yo. we struggled for millenia to create a well fed society & you dolts are literally starving yourselves for muh health. enjoy your aids nigger.

>>133510766
>Chart only goes to 215

What is this a chart for ants?

>>133508559
god bless america.

>>133507800
Remove jews, have the government and leaders prioritize the people, ban usury.

Costco hot dogs are god tier

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>>133511762
>the fat have created a society that only advantages them in the case of societal collapse

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>>133508559
Shiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttttt

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>mfw most americans are too heavy to even use that chart

>>133509520
Hey faggot memberships are $60 and you don't have to be a member.

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>>133508559

>>133511697

There's everything nihilistic about expecting everything for free. You expect freedom for the same stakes as communists expect money.

>>133511907
Moderation...no more than two of these a meal... MODERATION!

>>133509520
Also it's 560 calories if you get a water with it.

>>133512013

None of us want anything for free. We want exactly the opposite.

Like any liberal, you're projecting.

You're the ones demanding that the government take other people's money and hold your hand from cradle to grave. You are literally the ones who want something for nothing.

>>133512066
More like no more than one of those a month

>>133507800
They use to be a dollar

>>133510787
The ones in New Jersey and Florida check for your membership ID card when you walk in.

The (((Globalists))) are putting chemicals in our food and water that are making people fat, making men effeminate, making men and women think they are the wrong ender, etc.

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>>133511907
How can you drink that and not feel like a total piece of shit afterwards?

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>>133508559
This why I'm fat
And I don't lift

>>133512337
Same in Illinois.

>>133512398
cui bono?

>>133511747
That's no fun

>>133509559
Is that the U.S. embassy?

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>>133512574

>>133511907
that's just the morning pick me up you stupid finngol.

>>133511907
That's a good source of protein

>>133508930
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2keIfaPHgw
can't tell which is gayer

>>133507800
Shame

>>133512433
Many people do. I once accidentally ordered an 800 calorie beverage and felt like I shouldn't eat much for the rest of the day.

>>133507800
It really isn't that hard to not be fat. I don't understand how people eat so fucking much to become obese. Like, when I see fat people, I literally can't rap my head around how they could get to that state. I eat plenty of shit food and drink beer, and am in fine shape.

>>133512757
>that ratio of macros
>2600kcal
>only 38 grams of protein
don't even joke

>>133507800
Mandatory military service. Should teach them the importance of staying fit. Not willing to fight for your country==no right to vote.

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>>133508559
STAHP! MUH DICK!

There is no obesity problem in the US. Obesity is a sign of affluence.

>>133508559
Do Americans normally eat that much in one go? Though I would understand eating that much if it's shared between 2 people, 3-4 for women.

Turn jogging into a national pastime
Also this should be a thread for obesity in the west period since every euro nation as well as Straya and Canada has an obesity epidemic as well
>>133508404
>stop cutting parts of people's dicks off,
Pic related reminds you you're wrong and it's more common in Europe now thanks to your wonderful new immigrants
Our fat problem comes from our food being too damn good and Jewish reinforcement that " you're beautiful the way you are", it's an active enforcement of telling people that self improvement isn't necessary which is bullshit because it's the cornerstone of western civilization

>>133508559
wood smoked bbq is so fucking tasty, I'd be fat if I had it every day but I have some self control unlike many of my countrymen

>>133507800
find another hobby other than eating and tv
get obese people into something else

>>133513009
Except the affluent in America are all about living healthy, and the poorer people are, the higher the rates of obesity.

>>133507800
By deporting all mexicans and blacks

>>133513049
No that is something you share with others(except the pulled pork, may the gods have mercy on any motherfucker stupid enough to get between me and my pulled pork)

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Rate my progress. 40lbs down, 60lbs to go

>>133513049
honestly that would be shared between 2-4 people

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>>133512771
Seriously... it would be IMPOSSIBLE to come up with a gayer sport. Literally two young men wearing only skin tight pants, grease their bodies up and reach for each others dicks and asses

>>133508559
Picture is ordered wrong. Meat has never made anyone fat. All the starches behind it are another story. That shit is worthless except as livestock feed.

>>133508604
never had any of these things, sounds fucking disgusting desu

make /fit/ mandatory.

>>133513260
You would loose weight faster if you kys

why are 3 in 4 american men overweight

why does theu .s keep getting worse like I remember when they announced half of U.S was overweight and I was thinking holy fuck how did it get that bad.

now 3 in 4 men? Wow. being an american woman must be unbearable when all the men are fat fucks.

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>>133509652
>she will never show her bare belly afterwards

>>133513187
That's for shitskins though kek
The poorer niggers are the fatter they usually are but with whites the higher fat % is actually in the middle class

>>133512921
I eat 10000 kcal a day. M goal is to eat at least 100 g of protein a day. I'm getting ripped!

>>133510220
>What do we doc.
>I'll brb I'll get my .45

>>133513187
this.
Lazy nogs driving up the statistics. Still: obligatory military training to get the habits right from young age is the key.

>>133513405
They replace your fluids with preservatives, I wouldn't lose anything.

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>>133513355
>cornbread

>worthless

another fucking communist

>>133507800
Remove carbs from the diet completely. Or keep it below 20 grams/day, and only eat as much protein as you actually need depending on activity level (meat).

>>133513260
You can do it Anon, just don't forget to slowly put on muscle mass as well, you don't want your stretch marks any worse than they already are and you sure as hell don't want to finish your journey and be a weak faggot

>>133507800
same way we slim down obese animals.

throw them in a pen and only feed them the food they're supposed to eat for a year.

Get off your fat faggot ass and do something about it pussy.

>>133507996

first post best post. this time for reals. Eliminating HFCS from our diet would go a long way. In Europe and other parts of the world they don't sweeten shit with HFCS and obesity rates aren't as high because of it. Only populations exposed to a lot of "American" food which is all sweetened with HFCS really has those high obesity rates.

Mind you there WILL still be fat people if HFCS is gone, it will just be less, and the rates will become more normal, like they were before the 1970's when HFCS was introduced and took over as the main sweetener.

>>133513592
nigger detected.

>>133508604
>not a single fat person in this picture....


****thinking****

>>133507996
Fucker, corn powers the mid west economy.

>>133507800
I always get one on the way out of costco, it's my treat. 16.7% body fat. It's called treating yourself not all the time. I also get water with it soda is just wasted cals.

>>133513049

It's not a meal for one person you retarded cunt.

>>133507800
hey motherfucker those kirkland hotdogs are good

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>>133513592
Cornbred is shit no matter how you make it and just like iced tea and coffee the only reason people give a shit about it is because of peer pressure and falaee pretenses making you believe it's worth a damn
I'm from Dixie and I will not apologize for the things I've just said
Fuck corn bread, fuck sweet potatoes in any form, and fuck tea of any kind(shit your hole Nigel)

>>133513683
Have an annual hunt on fat bastards and let selection sort it out the natural way.

>>133513792
Maybe the midwest should start becoming relevant instead of welfare queen farmers and alcoholics.

>>133513614
>Le carbs are bad for you meme
CALORIES IN CALORIES OUT

>>133507800
>>133513855

How do we solve the obesity problem?
Nature? Maybe? xD
https://strawpoll.com/4b4f7yxs

>>133514037
Second, putting all your eggs in one basket is your own fault

>>133509511

Even McDonalds cant compete with Costco

>>133507800
>1/4 pound
you guys realize thats a small as fuck hotdog right?

>>133513792
If an economy only exists because you tax the rest of us to give them handouts then that economy needs to wither and die.

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>ctrl+f portion
>0 results
ctrl+f size
>0 results

You're all morons. American obesity is almost entirely a function of portion sizes and the bullshit notion that not being a fat shit means you have to exercise constantly. That second part, the bullshit most Americans believe? They believe that because it's the narrative food corps have been pushing for decades.

>>133507996
Hi there. I've got a corn allergy. It's a pain in the dick for me to buy food and eating at restaurants that aren't very expensive is right out.

I would absolutely love for us to stop subsidizing corn, but don't fool yourself into thinking that will magically fix all the other problems with the American diet.


The problems in a nutshell are:

-Portion sizes. American meals are fucking gigantic. If you eat out a lot you likely eat at LEAST 1000 calories per meal. For some reason there's also this idea that you should finish your plate for one reason or another (kids are starving in africa!), so people will continue eating their 1500 calorie monstrosity even after their body is screaming at them to stop.

-Soda culture. Soda is a dessert, but we've been tricked into thinking it's what you should be drinking with every meal. Soda easily adds 200-600 calories to each meal, and that's not including snacking on sodas between meals

-Weight loss and nutrition misconceptions. Ask most Americans how you lose weight and they respond with nonsense about hardcore but limited-time diets, going vegetarian, killing yourself with exercise, etc. Some particularly gullible ones will talk about "superfoods" and taking pills to increase your metabolism (read: make your heart beat faster for no reason). Losing weight is as simple as lowering your caloric intake. That's it. You don't need to go running every day, you don't need to lift weights, just eat less crap.

>>133512323

This is untrue.

They started at 1.50 and have held. It's one of their gimmicks.

>>133507800
>Obesity
Americans just don't cook at home anymore. that's the problem. A pot roast or some meatloaf made by my mom never made me or my family fat because it's homemade not industrialized.

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>>133513950
>Cornbred is shit no matter how you make

You Sir! are an idiot!
Cornbread made correctly is AWESOME.
You need to look until you find good cornbread, it IS rare (most people fuck it up and it is dry as a desert), but when made correctly is a warm moist union of the best bread and freshest corn you ever imagined could exist.

>>133513855
It's not much more than what I could eat when very hungry and your country is known for being the best in the world at overeating. Anyone could make the mistake.

>>133508559
just cut the deep fried stuff and avoid carbs. meat is not the problem if you eat up to the size of your hand (closed) per meal.

>>133514222
>1/4 pound
>small as fuck

this is why you are fat

>>133511514
LOOK AT MY FLAG
EVERYONE IS RUSSIA, DINGBAT

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>>133507800

End the welfare state, kick out every immigrant since the 1965 Immigration Act. The obesity rate will drop 70% within a year at least.

Raw till 4 vegan diet is the true redpill

>>133507800
its your fault. i dont get that skinny hot dog, i get a polish. same price.

>>133514045
'calories' are heat value, i.e. how much heat is produced from burning a substance with oxygen. Wheat flour and saw dust contain the same amount of 'calories'...

>>133513683
>In Europe and other parts of the world they don't sweeten shit with HFCS and obesity rates aren't as high because of it
There is absolutely no evidence that HFCS is any worse for you than sugar cane or glucose syrup.

You've noticed that European countries don't, for example, sweeten soda with HFCS. What you haven't noticed is that people in those countries have nowhere near the insatiable soda-lust Americans do. They just fucking drink less.

>>133507996
You can get as fat as you like without touching a single corn product.

There's canola or soy oil (necessarily highly refined and devoid of micronutrients: rapeseed is naturally poisonous, while soy oil can only be separated from the bean with solvents), sugar from cane or beets, bleached white flour, etc.

Subsidized corn is marginally cheaper than other options, so it gets used in all the cheap, micronutrient-poor crap, but that only makes the profit margins a little higher. There's plenty of other cheap stuff to make junk food out of.

>>133508404
>ban gmo and other trash in foods

This, plus increase iodine RDA to 1mg

>>133508604

This is exactly the kind of thing that should be promoted.

Calorie dense foods that are special, once per year events.

A deep fried butter ball has 443 calories. Its less than most six inch subs at subway.

>>133514611
/pol/ is filled with soccer mom broscience for the dumbest things

>>133507800
Set loose a lot of wild animals

>>133508930

Only one competitor is fat.

>>133508559

I work with people as fat as boogie and the problem is they can go through that entire spread in one sitting

and then another one not long after, this would be fine if they weren't eating so much so frequently

>>133514364
I've tried a lot of corn bread, I agree it's better when moist, but it's always mediocre at best. Perfect cornbread is like a polished turd.

>>133514774
The problem, in terms of America, is almost certainly less about the deep fried butter ball and more about the 40 oz coke with free refills.

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>>133514542
We can't gain weight on sawdust

>>133514732
>ban gmo
So basically ALL food, then?
We've been genetically engineering food via selective breeding for like millennia now

>>133508161
It use to be they made 90% of thier money on thier clothes believe it or not.

>>133514477
》vegan diet
an eating disorder is not a solution to anything, not even an imaginary problem

>>133507800
by letting people with self inflicted problems die.

Drug addict? Go ahead man. go nuts.

Fattie? Go ahead man. go nuts.

etc...etc...etc.

Provide a way out for those with the willpower to want to live, but for all others, its a waste of resource and emotional energy.

>>133509412

Once you have fat cells you cannot remove them, you can only shrink them.

They just need to offer stims to help people.

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>>133515036
Eating fruits and vegetables is an eating disorder?

>>133515007
Bingo, Sherlock

>>133508604
But all the people in the queue are normal sized.

>>133514365
Im 6'1 at 174. I will go out once or twice a month, and order something stupid like that and just gorge myself over the course of however long it takes to eat all that.

Americans just need to stop drinking sugary drinks, shitty breads, and eat more damn fiber. Easy. Drink...fucking...water. or tea. or coffee. no sugary creamer bullshit.

>>133515202
Eating nothing but that, is.

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Maybe if they'd stopped eating chocolate fried buttery dipped gravy 3 times a day

>>133514234
You do realize that it's not welfare, right? The government is subsidizing the cost of the crop to bring the cost to the consumer down. Without those subsidies, not only would our economy suffer, people would starve as supply disappears.

It is illogical to equivocate crop subsidizing to Jamal getting gibs.

>>133514986
This is part of it. American portion size is a vicious cycle. You start off eating large meals as a kid, your appetite outgrows your stomach when you're a teen, and you end up with a massively overstretched stomach that doesn't release any leptin until you've eaten a whole fucking cow.

For some reason most people don't understand that the stomach is rather elastic, and if you cut portion sizes your stomach will shrink back to a reasonable size and you won't have to eat a small country to feel satiated.

>>133515202
it was for john wayne gacy.....Ha cha cha.

>>133511131
It is, Juniors has some of the best cheesecake I've ever had.

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>>133515392

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>So you are fat?

>Eat less, mmkay?!

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>>133515200
Giving people stims for weight loss is a fucking terrible idea. The whole point of trying to get a nation as a whole to lose weight is to lower the risk of heart attack, replacing obesity with stims would just make things worse.

>>133515078
Whether or not you like it you will pay for your brother's health care. It may be through taxes, it may be through higher premiums or copay, it may be through higher cost of service, but other people being obese IS, in fact, your problem as well.

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>>133515202
plants, fruits, vegetables, mushrooms, nuts, etc are far more likely to be poisonous or harmful to humans in other ways

strictly speaking meat IS better

(not to mention you're a mammal, so not having milk products is truly pants on head retarded)

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Stop pushing the food pyramid in schools and get it through peoples' heads that they should be eating a diet high in healthy fats, fiber and with a decent amount of protein. The fat should replace sugar and carbs.

Eat grass-fed meats, vegetables, nuts, seeds, coconut/olive/avocado oil, wild-caught fish if you like seafood and an extremely limited amount of fruit, preferably berries which are low in sugar.

Also make sure to consume lots of probiotic rich foods and bone broth.

My diet nowadays.. Breakfast is a nutrition shake like Vega or Ancient Nutrition + chia seeds or hemp hearts + coconut oil or pumpkin seed oil + turmeric + coconut milk + blueberries.

Lunch = a big fucking salad and Dinner = Some kind of meat or fish with a bunch of vegetables.. Or bone broth loaded with vegetables, some meat and Himalayan pink salt

Good supplements aren't a bad idea either.

>>133507800
The other anons have it right with getting rid of hfcs, but the other side of the coin is physical activity. All of this stuff starts in grade school. By middle school, kids are crammed in a room for 8+ hours a day with no outlet unless they do sports or are taking their mandated 1 or 2 courses worth of pe. Then what? Then we're dragging them out of bed before the sun rises and starting the cycle all over again. Then to top it all off, they're not even learning anything. However, both school and the home are broken and both need to be fixed. Desperately.

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>>133507996
This really is the first post that is in fact the best post. Water subsidies cause problems as well.

>>133514611

The covalent bond slows down absorption and gives your body some regulatory control over it. Free fructose is also shown to cause insulin resistance and a host of other metabolic syndrome problems.

Not to mention, if corn wasn't subsidized so we didn't have this incredibly cheap sweetner everywhere, things just wouldn't be as sweet across the board. They don't sweeten bread so much in other countries, they don't sweeten ketchup and tomato sauce and all these other foods that you don't think of as being things you eat because they're sweet but they're all loaded in carbs from HFCS added to them.

We'd ultimately use LESS refined carbohydrates as a whole.

>>133510329
>M-Muh roads?!

>>133515010
Idk, maybe ban most fast food restaurants. But the iodine thing is very important. Consumption has halved since the 60s. Not only are people much fatter now, but they also have more mental illnesses and other health issues.

>>133515200
You can have them removed via liposuction hehe

>>133515660
youre right eating bananas literally turned me into a bernie voting nigger i hate drumpf now!

>>133508559
>proteins are fattening

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>>133514320
fucking these. have a free Edea young sir.

>>133515612
》eating disorder patients being just that retarded

>>133508161
The food court at all Costcos can be accessed by the public, without a card. They're put after the cashiers on purpose. Most of the sales in the Costcos in the food courts are from walk-ins by non members. They're there, to bring people in, to sign them up. That's what they're loss-leaders for, not existing members.

Costco membership is fucking easy, they don't even try to limit it anymore. Hell, the town I lived in, we all got free memberships, because that's what the town negotiated to allow it to be built.
I've added probably 14, 15 people to my account, they just have to drop $50 or however much it is, and they get a card. Then when it renews, they take it off mine and onto their own.
I know more people with Costco cards, than without. Costco's business model is to bring in as many new members as possible, and make the adoption rate as easy as possible.

Source. Know a Costco regional guy. I've heard more about that company than I've ever wanted to.

>>133515660
Also mammals don't seek milk after infancy. Sure they'll drink it if you put a bowl in front of them but that's obviously different

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>>133515919
why not go a step further and only eat "natural" bananas

>>133514320
Pretty much

>>133515725
>The covalent bond slows down absorption and gives your body some regulatory control over it
Completely negligible.
> Free fructose is also shown to cause insulin resistance and a host of other metabolic syndrome problems
So is sucrose. Hey, what do you know, excessive sugar consumption plus genetic predisposition leads to type 2 diabetes. What a fucking shock.

>things just wouldn't be as sweet
If you think people would tolerate their foods suddenly being less sweet you're living in a fantasy world. They'd pack in as much of the second-cheapest sugar they could find and raise prices slightly.

I'm no fan of corn subsidies but the idea that they are the cause of any of this is just smokescreen bullshit. The problem is education.

>>133507800
Don't worry about us.

It's every American's right to be fat if they want.

Worry about your own damn country, kanker faggot.

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>>133516235
and omnivores don't "seek" meat?

Fat people have it so good

I wish I could go back in time so bad and not have wasted my health

I wish I could gain weight so I could exercise more but I can't eat that much and will just over train

>>133509520
You don't need a membership card to buy the hot dogs, dummy. They're located after the check out, and you can enter that part of the store without a card.

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>>133507800
>>133507996
this, first post is a winner

we should go back to cultivating corn the way it used to be - multicolored and tiny and tasty, what the native americans gave us

>>133514716
> rapeseed

this is now a pyramid head post

>>133514320
dumbass, if you dont give people enough food they'll order more of it

straight up

>>133513792
pretty soon Yellowstone will though

>>133507996
Nah corn is awesome. Tons of industry happens because of corn and corn producers. Not to mention it's an excellent food staple. People in 2nd and 3rd world countries need cheap corn production to buy America's food exports.

Why trash a whole industry just because fatties can't control themselves?

>>133516235
>hurr durr 'mammals'
clearly non-aryan mourning it's lack of ability to consume milk. Walking salt mine.

>>133514611
>There is absolutely no evidence that HFCS is any worse for you than sugar cane or glucose syrup.
That's not true. First of all, glucose syrup is something else entirely. It doesn't have any fructose in it at all.

Fructose and glucose are handled by the body quite differently. Glucose (which starch is made of) is burned directly by most cells, while fructose must be converted to glucose by the liver. Fructose in excess causes liver damage comparable to that caused by excessive alcohol consumption. It also has a different relationship with insulin than glucose does, which makes excessive fructose consumption more likely to cause diabetes and obesity.

While HFCS is quite comparable nutritionally to table sugar / sucrose (a weakly-bonded equal mixture of fructose and glucose), it generally has a higher proportion of fructose: at least 55%. So for the same amount of sweets, you end up getting at least 10% more fructose, which is substantial and can bump you up to the level of harmful excess. The 10% less glucose is not adequate compensation, since it's a much smaller health threat.

The larger practical problem with HFCS is that it's much cheaper than real sugar. There's no practical limit on the manufacture of HFCS, which can be made from any starch, while it's only practical to produce sucrose from cane or beets. This is why the combined consumption of HFCS and sugar skyrocketed after HFCS was introduced. In practice, HFCS hasn't replaced sugar but has been added to diets without reduction of sugar consumption.

>>133510220
Lupe needs to go back to fucking Mexico.

>1/4lb of meat is a lot
What's it like being a twink, OP?

>>133507800
simple, every bit of fructosey you consume goes to fat - blast it over every information outlet possible 24/7 365 days around. Just like smokin causes cancer on every fucking bar of snickers and icecream etc.
It's biochemistry reatard, no humans can't use fructose for fuel, it hast to be stored as fat first. Proceed form there. Treat fructose as alcohole and toacco.

>>133513792
t. welfare queen farmer

>>133516968

> fructose is the sugar that comes naturally in fruit and honey
> it is the simplest carbohydrate, only 1 chain long

>>133508559

God i want this so bad now... gonna have to hit the BBQ place after work.

>>133517430
fuck em white people rite

>>133514411
That's 4-5 hands worth of meat

>>133513950
>fuck sweet potatoes

what's wrong with you?

>>133507800
holy fuck that is a great deal. Where the hell is a Kirkland?

>>133517949
Costco's house brand

>>133516968
>Fructose in excess causes liver damage
So does water, provide numbers please.

>that 10% more fructose is substantial and can lead to the level of harmful excess
Numbers please. What level of fructose is required to reach this dangerous level.

>>133507800
Government mandated meals and work out programs. After all, can't trust people to do what's in their best interest, if we're going to restrict certain things because of their danger we better be consistent.

>>133513792
you're not a farmer, you're a paid whore, a farmer produces what is desired, corn makes a nice crop rotation, that's it - there are no magical properties of this plant beyond, and all corn is GMO!

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>>133516852
>the problem isn't a complex interplay between corporate propaganda, poor education on nutrition, and the way we portion our food!
>It's just corn!
Just because you're simple doesn't mean the world is simple.

>>133518073
Where are all of these communists coming from? Reddit?

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>>133516323

the obesity rates and type 2 diabetes rates correlate virtually perfectly with coke and pepsi switching to HFCS as a sweetener in 1984.

It is a multi pronged problem but the SINGLE biggest contributor is the prevalence of HFCS. Look at all the food you buy in the grocery store. Unless you buy nothing but fresh produce and meat, everything you get that has been processed or packaged has HFCS I bet.

>>133507996
corn syrup isn't a problem. If we didn't have that, we would rely on cane sugar, provably. Or maybe beet sugar like Europe. But either way, we'd be just as fat. The real cause of obesity is the food pyramid and an obsession with eating lost of carbs and few fats.

>>133518073

You people, and I use the term loosely, seriously need to be purged from society.

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>>133509520
You are one stupid motherfucker jesus fuck you dont need a membership pls kill yourself you uneducated piece of shit.

>>133518242
>>133518450
I don't seriously believe that, people should be free to consume what they wish. But if our government is going to decide that we can't consume certain things because of societal danger/ danger to ourselves they need to be consistent.

>>133507800
Stop consuming food and drink that contains corn syrup and/or sugar.

>>133515015

HAHAHAHA what the Fuck? That is in no way, in ANY way true...Why are you babbling nonsensicle shit? lul

>>133514364
>>133513950
>generalizations

cornbread made correctly is the bomb, problem is nobody makes it like that and it sorta only comes out right by fluke chance - when properly made its almost like cake

also sweet tea is just fine, made with sugar, and southern style - to do that you actually have to make the tea sorta weak, and serve it very cold

furthermore earl grey is the bomb and it can be mixed with stevia extract as a sweetener without any real damage to the flavor (and stevia, from a co-op, is more economical than sugar is btw)

>>133517949
unfortunately they're like only in texas or something, I wish they had them here in illinois but every time ive looked up kirkland or costco food on yelp its always somewhere else

> why does nobody bring awesome stores to midland illinois?

>>133507800
Just ate one of those yesterday. Really not that much food. Corn syrup is why some people are fat, it's pretty simple

>>133518786
They're in Canada too.

>>133517949

>>133507800
Make places where we can walk more instead of driving.

Calories in, calories out.

>be responsible
>burger
Well idk what else to say really. My father works 16 hour days away from family (who he really only sees a couple times in the year...welcome to the USA)....he still finds time to work out...


On a national scale, we really can't fix shit like this

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>>133507800
W-what is this "polish" d-dog?

>>133507800
Fat shaming, and refusing them medical treatment for health related problems due to obesity.

Let them all die.

Obesity is a sign of mental illness.

If you're a fat fuck kill yourself.

>>133507800

Well since 99% of pol is full of fat ugly fucks this is really the wrong place to be asking that question.

>>133518243
>the obesity rates and type 2 diabetes rates correlate virtually perfectly with coke and pepsi switching to HFCS as a sweetener in 1984.
Correlation is not causation.

Know what else happened in the early 80's? Coke began aggressively marketing their soda. Portion sizes began to increase. The daily average caloric per person jumped by nearly 400 fucking calories.

I'm sorry, but you're completely full of shit. Switching to HFCS did not significantly increase the caloric content of soda.

>Look at all the food you buy in the grocery store. Unless you buy nothing but fresh produce and meat, everything you get that has been processed or packaged has HFCS I bet.
I already told you I have a corn allergy. I cannot eat anything with corn syrup, corn starch, corn meal, corn oil, white vinegar, powdered sugar, xylitol, xantham gum, dextrose, maltodextrin, etc., etc., etc., etc.

I am well fucking aware of how prevalent corn is in American food.

It's not the problem.

>>133507800

I had an ex who "struggled" with weight. Sugar junky who thought a lot of super unhealthy stuff was good

Heres a diet that works. Eat less, skip meals, go to bed hungry, wake up and skip breakfat etc, etc. She thought that missing breakfast would be super unhealthy.

>>133519988
Massive short term calorie restriction (cleanse) is a great way to boost your metabolism. People who eat less live longer. Fact.

>>133519345
>On a national scale, we really can't fix shit like this
We absolutely can, the problem is that every time we try those fuckers at coke and nabisco et al destroy the effort.

It's happened so many times before and it'll keep happening, just watch. Any time there's a push by any group with real exposure (usually the white house) to educate Americans on portion size and caloric intake it gets massive "donations" from coke and others and the message quickly changes from "eat less garbage" to "exercise! exercise! exercise!"

We need to educate the country on how to read nutrition labels and how to portion meals but all attempts wind up undercut by the food industry.

>>133519710
I assume they mean kielbasa, but I'm not sure

>>133510645
Kansas City reporting in. Some things matter more than life.

>>133514045
Lowcarb diets are calorie restricting diets.

But you keep reeeeing in your ignorance.

>>133519862

It's not just the number of calories the TYPE of calories do matter. Absorption rates are different. IF you absorb high energy food too quickly you put on more fat. That's why we've finally realized that fat doesn't make you fat, sugar makes you fat, and HFCS is the worst sugar. I think we can gradually decrease the amount of sugar in our diet and starting with HFCS being taken completely out of it.

The US military controls portions and has regular mandatory exercise, they still struggle with fatties, and I'd say largely due to them having soda and other sweets available. In boot camp they give you a slice of cake or ice cream to go with your meals and everyone drinks soda

>>133509559
It looks like one of those 3D printed buildings...woah

>>133517499
>> fructose is the sugar that comes naturally in fruit and honey
The sugars in fruit and honey are variable mixtures, not pure fructose.

>> it is the simplest carbohydrate, only 1 chain long
Fructose isn't simpler than other monosaccharides, such as glucose.

These are shill script talking points. Of course fructose is a naturally-occurring sugar, which is a part of many healthful foods. That's not a point in dispute. What we're talking about is whether it's advisable to consume it in large quantities, divorced from the high fiber and micronutrient rich whole foods in which it occurs in the evolutionary environment.

Hint: it's not.

>>133518066
>So does water, provide numbers please.
Liver damage is not a significant mechanism of harm in overhydration, whereas it's one of the main dangers of excessive fructose consumption. You don't know what you're talking about.

>Numbers please. What level of fructose is required to reach this dangerous level.
You're talking like you're too stupid and ignorant to discuss this productively at the level you're calling for, or like you're working from an HFCS shill script to prevent meaningful discussion.

We're talking about biological systems. There are no hard lines and a lot of individual variation.

Can you give hard numbers on how much drinking or smoking is "a dangerous level"? Of course not. Yet, would you dispute that they're harmful in excess? Or that excessive consumption is common in the modern world? Only if you're shilling. That's the status of fructose.

>>133510645
you're protecting our culture and way of life
backyard cookouts and parties are part of that

>>133520773
this

>>133514611
>There is absolutely no evidence that HFCS is any worse for you than sugar cane or glucose syrup.

HFCS is glucose slop, you fucking spastic.

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What's wrong with fatties?

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>>133520773
>It's not just the number of calories the TYPE of calories do matter.
Not to a significant degree for weight loss they don't.
>says the military strictlycontrols portions
>immediately admits that they allow snacks and sodas
funny shit, anon

>You're talking like you're too stupid and ignorant to discuss this productively
Asking for actual numbers instead of vagueries like "too much will hurt you" is being stupid? Well slap my ass and call me nancy, that's fucking amazing. I wish I was as smart as you.

>we're talking about biological systems, there are no hard lines
Yeah, that's why actual scientists use averages and control certain variables when giving their figures.

>can you give numbers on how much drinking or smoking is a dangerous level
Absolutely. More than 3 ounces a day for the average male and any amount.

If you're going to say that a 10% increase breaks some threshhold for liver damage you can't then turn around and claim numbers hold no meaning you massive twat

and speaking of carbohydrates being one of our chief reasons for obesity. We eat too many fucking potatos in this country. Potatos are just starch, starch is just a polymer of glucose that is broken down by amylase. It's not as bad as HFCS, but it's still a relatively simple sugar that is absorbed really quickly and is high energy food so it gets converted to fat.

You might point out the deep frying as the culprit for french fries and potato chips being so bad, but I'll say, even baked chips, tater tots, and fucking baked potatos (especially when you add all the other shit to it) have way too many simple carbs involved.

The "meat and potatos" man, yeah, it's a fucking staple in our diet, and we're fat partially because of it. You don't want to eat potatos on a daily basis unless it's basically the only reliable source of food you have.

>>133521123
You are a degenerate fag. Watch this video by Mr. Dapperton, he explains this shit real well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl9oL1HEZEU

>>133519862
>It's not the problem.
It's part of the problem. Why you're being such an insufferable faggot and fighting that is beyond me.

>>133521491

Yes, they control portions and give a slice of cake or cup of ice cream and you fill your glass with coke instead of water. They determine how much of something you get still, so that's still controlled portions, but I'm saying they also allow you to have the wrong types of foods to begin with.

>>133521602
>potatoes

Yeah, no, everyone eats wheat and cereal grains all day every day. Potatoes are considered fucking healthy to normal people now they eat so much wheat bullshit processed foods

We aren't in fucking Ireland nigger

>>133521661
I hate feminist but love gay bitches and have long before the Jews promoted it

>>133508559
ps bbq gods bless me with dis meal :)

>>133521123
in the old days being overweight was a sign of good health and fertility actually, but back then people had to do alot of work and exercise just to live so this usually meant that the negative conditions that go with being overweight were mitigated by that

but people don't do that anymore unless they're construction workers

and even then they usually marry their overweight with smoking which puts back those damaging health patterns (being constantly dosed with a virulent poison that damages the heart) - despite their increased activity

>>133521491
>Not to a significant degree for weight loss they don't.
Are you literally retarded?

You're just waving away insulin response with your faggoty little hand.

It's people like you, who spout bullshit like you do, that's the problem. "What kinds of calories doesn't matter" - let's see you lose weight eating your calorie requirements for the day in sugar.

I fucking dare you, you fucking moron.

>>133521802
>It's part of the problem
If it is (it's not) it's a fucking microscopic problem sitting next to the education and portion size issue which are the size of goddamn planets.

It's a goddamned distraction. Cutting corn subsidies would do absolutely dick to combat obesity. You're latching on to the first correlation you can see and ignoring all the evidence against it and all the other more reasonable explanations.

>>133508161
My costco food court is always packed, there's always a fuckload of construction, cal-trans, and oilfield guys, all those guys bust their ass all day in the heat (well, maybe not cal-trans), none of those dudes are fat because they burn that shit off

>>133521602
There's 3 food sources that are abused in the US:
Fructose syrup
Corn
Bleached white flour

Cut those things from your diet, and you will see a significant result.

>>133508161
>MEMBERS ONLY

not so exclusive anymore. they started taking food stamps. Now it just a larger building to house more fat waddling beaners

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>>133522175
> let's see you lose weight eating your calorie requirements for the day in sugar.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SHEEMON

TAKE THE DRILL

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

>>133522394
Shit, mine isnt members only, the food court i mean, anyone can walk up and spend money

>>133522175
Refined sugars are inflammatory and therefore would cause more weight loss than complex carbs, for a bad reason as well, it destroys your body tissue, except they're much more dense for their caloric value, making it easier to eat more

God damn people are fucking dumb

>>133522321
>Fructose syrup
Cut sugar completely.

>>133519988
>>133520171
Why eat less when you can just eat healthy? My gf is skinny as hell and eats constantly. She just mainly eats meat, veggies, fruit and nuts. As long as you're avoiding sugar and bad carbs you're fine.

>>133522204
Okay, you're a fucking retard. No more (you)s for your dumb, ignorant, neckbeard fat ass.

>>133522680
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


That's all I see when I look at your post.

>>133523065
You can still get fat, you have to move around and burn what you put in

>>133508781
i agree. i always get pissed when some fat fuck and their family takes up an entire row on the disney tram or they can't navigate the lines to a ride and slow it down.

So why is it fine the government controls other facets of what we put into our body, but food is where it's unacceptable?

>>133522399
CNN?

Lol.

Go fuck your fake news, and when you're done, fuck yourself. If you can reach, fatty.

>>133520966
>HFCS is glucose
HFCS is a mixture, typically of 45% glucose and 55% fructose.

Glucose is what starch and glycogen are made of, and also what your body makes from protein to burn it for energy. Pretty much every cell in your body can burn it directly. Both your liver and all your muscles can store it as glycogen.

Fructose, on the other hand, is produced only by plants (and in industrial processes using plant enzymes). Only the liver can convert it to forms usable by other parts of the human body, so the body's ability to handle a large intake of fructose is far more limited. If the liver's capacity to convert fructose is overloaded, you get damage such as fatty liver.

Since most fructose in the natural environment occurs in fibrous fruits, which cause indigestion and diarrhea when consumed in excess, and concentrated sugars were a costly luxury until recently, few people have the genetics to process large amounts of it without harmful effects (there are exceptions, such as some tribes of jungle primitives who subsist mainly on honey, so that those members of the tribe whose livers deal with it poorly are sickly and thus weeded out of their gene pool).