Wtf is this flag supposed to be?

>>133501833
Honest

infiltration by leftists

national bolshevism

>>133501833
The new flag of Germany.

National Bolshevism

>>133501833
Commies larping nazi's. Strange world we live in.

>>133501833
WTF is National Bolshevism?!

>>133501833
useful idiots: the flag

>>133501833
(((National Bolshevism)))

Very few people post with this but when they do they get ripped on harder than the kekistan one

>>133501833
autism

They use human wave tactics to invade the gas chamber, last comrade through the door gets to push the button!

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The true political force of the 1917 revolution!

Im a redpilled communist, AMA. not your avarage liberal idiot

>>133501833
It's the leftypol flag. Communist leftist cucks with a bit of /pol/ mixed in paradoxically.

We're being raided by them ever since Trump won.

>>133502728

I think it's not a raid, we've all been here, just not explicitly.
Trump caused a major change in discourse, and there's a lot of us rad-left cucks who are not naïve political correct fuckheads.
So while trumplets are getting more vulgar, nazism and fascism more and more appropriate - so will we be more open in our ideology; in that way it's a reaction.
/pol/ is not exclusively rightwing. Its anti-political correctness. And Trump is the symptom of the failure of leftist language policing.
So let's be open about our ideology and conversate; instead of acting like the times of ideologies are over, no!

>>133501833
that flag represents what would have become had hitler won the war.

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>>133503214
>Trump caused a major change in discourse
According to who? CNN?

Trump's probably the best leader the west has had in the last century.

Also, newsflash: Communism is dead and gone forever.

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>nazbol
>communist
lel

>>133503464
no. the big bad commie state is dead and gone.

the fragments of said state has infiltrated the west, festering within our ranks.

>>133502651
You do understand the Jews financed your revolution right?

>>133503214
>>133503669
so what is it that you faggots believe and why should we take you seriously?

>>133503464

You can't deny Trump caused some change here. He didn't buy the political correct, 'spoke his mind', and against Clinton that was even his strength no? So at the left side we've got this hypersensitivity, language policing.. on the other hand there's this vulgarisation.. open racism and so on... All i'm saying is that Trump did something with the public space...

About dead communism, yes, we are the first to admit; 20th century communism was a failure, stalinism etc... But i might doubt >gone forever or certainly; capitalism isn't to stay here forever. And i'm not saying we're inevitably going into the direction of luxury gay space communism, no, it could be way worse...
We're facing big global problems.. take ecology...
Communism isn't dead as long as their are communists who bear the cause. It's basically a rejection of the idea that capitalism is the only economic system, that there's no alternative.

>>133501833
It may or may not be real communism.

>>133501833
red fascism

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>>133501992
spbp

National Socialists care about our people, and we are mostly flexible to the right on economic policy.

NazBols care ONLY about the gibbs, and essentially want a white North Korea. Bolshevism is dysgenic and retarded, equality is a lie. Naming the jew is a necessary condition for the redpill, but NOT a sufficient one.

>>133501833
It's the best we've got until they add a strasserist flag

>>133504602
sauce? & why should i care? They overthrew an ancient feudal system.. its good.. they we're just to fast to skip the capitalist mode of production and force it...

>>133504757
I believe in class struggle. I believe there's too much inequality (like, the jews own everything man - haha - but even hitler was anticapitalist). I believe in solidarity, in basic moral values. I believe in high culture.
I believe the left is degenerating.

>>133505240
>any form of anarchism utopian retardation being Anything but shit tier

>>133501833
It's to let you more clearly discern who is a 14 year old with autism. If someone posts with it 100% chance they are

>>133506175
I'm not. This is not an argument.

>>133506257
100% chance you are, unless you're doing it ironically. Only children with no understanding of the world, or cases of extreme autism, would even consider Nazbol. It's that retarded on its face

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Ladies and gents, this is a raid:

>>133502651
>>133503214
>>133503669
>>133504796
>>133505400
>>133505572
>>133506257

Ignore, hide, and don't bump the thread.

>>133501833
I'm not sure if I identify with other Nazbols, but the basic idea of Nazbolism as I understand it is that both the Nazis and the Bolsheviks were right to an extent, but that Hitler was wrong to turn the NSDAP away from socialism and toward fascism, which is pretty much hyper-capitalism. Nazbols would have been identified as Strasserites in the Nazi party.

>>133502651
>Red pilled
>Communist

Retard flag

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>>133505572
>sauce?
You can easily find others using google or the search engine of your choice. Aschberg is a really greasy kike you should dig into, the one that set up the centeral bank of Soviet Russia. FFS the US state department intervened and sent a Red Cross envoy consisting mostly of lawyers and businessmen. Who do you think secured the Trans-Siberian Railroad during the revolution. The Bolsheviks were in no position to do it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olof_Aschberg
https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf

>why should i care?
Because it makes you look like a hypocritical faggot that praises the "popular uprising" when in reality your worldview has been so distorted you can't see the truth.


>They overthrew an ancient feudal system.. its good..
Was it really? Persecuting peasant farmers, or kulaks, because they maybe had one or two more goats than their neighbors. Throwing people into gulags because they said "maybe this isn't such a good idea. That's what you qualify as good? Instead of a landlord those peasants had the state to take their shit. To loosely quote that fat fuck Bakunin here, a person being hit with a stick won't like it any better if it is called the people's stick.

>they we're just to fast to skip the capitalist mode of production and force it...
Then curl up with the capitalists when they realized that killing the people that know how to run a factory was a bad idea. Then the jews made even more money because they were able to go in and run those factories with what is essentially slave labor. If your revolution against capitalism has to turn to capitalists to keep it afloat, then you are a failure by all measures.
https://www.princeton.edu/~ota/disk3/1979/7918/791812.PDF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c

Pull your head out of your ass.

>>133501833
A symbol of absolute shitskin mongoloids. Literally shitskins, jews and mudblood drunk scum with negro level IQ. Reminder NationalBolshevik Founder Eduard Limonov sucked off a nigger for a hotdog in NYC back in the 1980s. What can I say? Follow your leader

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>>133501833

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>>133501833

>I'm not like the other commies xd

>>133506561
nope
>>133506492
i don't identify with Nazbol. like i said, i identify as a communist. The flag is just a little edgy. Like your flag, no, or do you take nazism seriously? (ill change the flag)

>>133507074
cringe

>>133507254
You have the 2nd edgiest flag right next to ancaps.

>>133507254
I checked out their facebook group (they raid here from time to time.) They've posted pictures of themselves. They literally are all underage and act like spazoids. Most of them were clinically obese as well, it would be hilarious to watch them try to run a revolution kek

>>133501833
National Socialism but with Russia instead of Germany.

>>133507934
Link?

>>133506975
>aschberg
will look up. are u saying US helped bolsheviks? (im talking about bolshevik as opposed to mensheviks, im not defending nazbolism) Also i thought US was the enemy of communism intervening everywhere emancipatory uprisings came up...

>your worldview has been so distorted you can't see the truth.
i'd say everyones worldview is imaginary, distorted. And Truth is only grasped IN the illusion.

the persecutions.. gulag.. like I said.. this is 20th century communism. it failed big time. we're the first to say this.

>revolution against capitalism has to turn to capitalists to keep it afloat, then you are a failure by all measures.
yes, that's the problem of course. i remain a revolutionary.

thanks for sources, im open minded u know

>>133507934
yes, link pls

>>133501833

The pictoral representation of tens of millions of starved slavs.

I assume they support Lenin's NEP or state capitalism

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>>133502192
The Bolsheviks were the Russian Communist revolutionaries.

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>>133508269
>are u saying US helped bolsheviks?
Yes, and it's not even hidden. Wilson sold us out to the kikes in three ways. One, the Fed. Two, the US became the World's police. Three, letting the communists take the railroad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_Intervention
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/chapter_05.htm\
https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2002/winter/us-army-in-russia-1.html

Why do you think the Nazis were cautious about jewish influence in the US. Not only did they finance the communists, they floated them, and even helped secure half the country.

>i'd say everyones worldview is imaginary,
Yours, in particular is full of holes and lies paraded as truths. Like;
>And Truth is only grasped IN the illusion.
No, the truth is the truth, it is not an illusion. The distortions of it are what is the illusion you see, it happens on both the left and the right but far leftists in particular are rabid in defending the illusion when presented the truth.

>it failed big time. we're the first to say this.
>SO LET'S JUST TRY IT AGAIN GUYS, IT'LL WORK THIS TIME. WE SWEAR. THE PROBLEMS THAT PLAGUED THE LAST 40 PEOPLE WONT PLAUGE US.

Insanity is trying something over and over again when no positive results are being shown. Communism has been tried, multiple times with multiple variations, and has failed miserably.

>yes, that's the problem of course. i remain a revolutionary.
I'll say it again. Pull your head out of your ass. Revolutionaries are jewish puppets used to create a profit for their overlords. Why do you think guys like Soros finance Antifa and other pro-open borders groups? Whats even more laughable is that they claim they are fighting globalism for the people by destroying the people's things.

The truth burns, embrace it. It will make you see clearly.

>>133505240
>Ancappies
>good

Cringe

>>133505240
National socialism is quite the same concept than national bolchevism
Nationalism + Antisemitism + Socialism

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>>133505720
>>133510429
An-Caps at least allow for pure competition, it's rudimentary and has major flaws but at least it's not literal dysgenics (like our current system is).

An-Capism implemented worldwide would not breed 4 billion niggers by the end of the century, that ALONE is enough to realize it's better than what we're doing.

>>133511069
No it's not. National socialism is not the same thing as "socialism".
>is Political correctness the same thing as "correctness"?
>is social justice the same thing as "justice"?
The qualifier changes the meaning, and Hitler had the hardline "socialists" in his movement killed during the Night of the Long Knives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmtuCzKy83U

>>133510165

we're saying the world is run by capital. you're saying capital is run by jews.

i know leftist tend to turn the blind eye to issues like migration, borders etc... I see it as a rad-left to improve degenerate left.. we should confront these problems openly

>truth in illusion
is basically a philosophical point... everyones worldview is full of gaps..

& ur describing how the Jew corrupted everything... we want another economic system (>inb4 planned economy doesn't work) but like.. what do you want? do a new genocide? because needless to say i think nazism or fascism isn't the way to go either.. you know we stand for basic human rights and so on

Soros is a jew. fascists are against jews. antifa are against fascists. we both see the logic here but lets not get into this. see the first line that i wrote i really wonder how you think about that line.

uve opened my eyes to the whole russia revolution i did not know and it was not in the textbooks... but about textbooks... we all get biased education. i assume ure american.. cold war country.. at least admit u got a lot of propaganda stuffed in ur troath... i basically got educated by a bunch of marxists...
dialogue is good.

>>133512381
like, some of you are openly antisemitic, an rascist. u devide people up in races and take the white 'race' as superior. How could one serious about politics take that seriously??

>>133501833
It's the ideology you pick up when you realize the 1% is full of Jews

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>>133501833
Redpilled.

>>133504796
Trump did absolutely alter the dynamics of political discussion and social interaction in general. The marxists that control academia, hollywood, the media, and much of the government at every level have spent decades getting us to take on more and more pretense in our daily lives and language and Trump came along and said, "No, sorry, people can say what they want and we are all done lying to not hurt the feelings of the niggers ballooning crime rates, jews controlling banking and everything else, illegals being pieces of shit and retarded subhuman invaders, feminists and abortionists and liars and adult children, etc. etc." We love it and are finally free to tell the truth about things while the planners and commies try to push everyone back into the PC box. How anyone agrees with it is absolutely mind-blowing.

Also, National Socialism addresses every problem you mentioned without idiotically using the monstrous failure of an economic policy of communism and without the unnatural and terrible social ideology of marxism. Capitalism is bad just like communism in the same sense that jews and muslims are both bad. Communism directly oppresses and genocides you, capitalism does it through corruption and degeneracy, consumerism, and demographic replacement

>>133509225
>n-n-n-n-no force! th-th-th-th-that's mean!
Ancaps are worse than SJWs

Apart from Hoppe, he's good, because he explicitly says that force is indeed required

Anyone who isn't a fucking pussy knows that force is required for anything

>>133506775
Marx was redpilled about the jew

>>133505400
I'm a Strasserist and I usually use the fascist flag but I'll occasionally use the nazbol flag just to anger some retards.

>>133513237
That's clearly the only redpill he had ever taken

>>133511960
The problem with capitalism is that you eventually run out of other people's countries.

>>133502334
I feel like I see it a lot.

>>133501833
Bolshevism opposes nationalism of any kind, but these goons are too dumb to realize that their own ideology is an oxymoron at it's very core. The real name of this movement should be Duginism.
>>133505240
>anarcho-whatever (a paradox) higher than actual Anarchy
U wot m8? And Anarchism IS NOT Communism, as I assume you placed it lower because you seem to think so.

>>133513084
i agree here except for i don't want to push back into the PC box. it's the degenerates yes.
the basic struggle is how to make better commie anti-PC memes... the left cant meme & thats a problem for the left...
yes oppression will be there in every state. I say no to genocide like gulag... U're fair about capitalist oppression
about marxism.. its not (only) social ideology... its politically economic critique

>>133505240
NazBols are cool. You're a faggot.

>>133513084
You still can't tell your "truth". That's why you're on 4chan saying these things and not in the streets

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>>133512381
Internationalism is the enemy, whether it's international socialism or international capitalism. Both are controlled by the same (((interests))).

International Socialism (Communism) is ESPECIALLY heinous because it is more dysgenic, more alluring to the "intellectuals", and it always devolves into a more direct form of control.

International capitalism can at least be resisted by resourceful, strong-willed individuals, and you don't have to worry about literally starving to death.

The "Russian" Revolution was Jewish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1yON7-6VK8

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>>133505240
>ancaps and lolberterarians are better than nazbols and soviets
kys

>>133501833
Here's some history:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Niekisch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolay_Vasilyevich_Ustryalov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Fran%C3%A7ois_Thiriart

>>133511960
>socialism is not the same thing as socialism
That's a new one.

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>>133505240
this

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>>133512381
>you're saying capital is run by jews.
Take a close look at who controls a majority of the capital in this world and you will see most of them are jews. Some people write that off as a coincidence, I don't. Historically, if you look at all the nations that kicked out the jews of you will see why. They are money grubbing leeches.

>I see it as a rad-left to improve degenerate left.
The problem with that theory is the degenerate left has always attached itself to Marxism. What we are seeing with identity politics and SJW bullshit is a reiteration of marx. Instead of the economy, it attacks the society and culture. The "privileged" vs the "oppressed and underprivileged." There is no improving them, try arguing with them. You'll learn.

>what do you want? do a new genocide?
The Jews kicked out back to their own homeland and the concept of the citizen soldier resurrected in the west. Individual rights with consideration with what is good for that nation. Having a bunch of homos running around fucking each other in the ass in the streets, spreading disease, is not good in the long run.

>you know we stand for basic human rights and so on
That sounds nice, typical feathery bs language from leftists to be exact. But what does that entail exactly? The right to nation and self defense or footing the bill for idiots and welfare for parasites? Many think that latter.

>we all get biased education.
You have access to the largest database of information in human history at your fingertips. The internet is not just for shitposting and porn.

>at least admit u got a lot of propaganda stuffed in ur troath...
Yeah, I was brainwashed to think Nelson Mandela was a saint that was mistreated by evil whitey. In reality he was a terrorists that bombed women and children and got a free pass and is remembered as a national hero. Despite the fact SA is objectively worse now than it was when PW Botha left. Oh, and the blacks still blame whitey, really makes me think.

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>>133512381
>the world is run by capital
correct

>you're saying capital is run by jews
this is also correct, how much fucking evidence do you need to see?

>>133514338

i agree global capitalism is the enemy. its neo-colonialism.
We're going to a global market, but each can remain their particular national identity

i'm just curious what you'd say about global problems. Take the simple but real problem of climate change.. We need strong institutions to actually face these problems, no. (But u americans don't really care about making efforts to you know, save the planet and ensure future for next generations. I wonder what daddy trump will do with Paris climate accords)

>>133514751
Hey nazbro. Can I get some information on niekisch? Mainly a PDF of his main book in english? I can't seem to find any information on him and I'm curious about the details of his ideology.

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>>133513719
I'm not interested in your revisionist "history" of the terminology.
>muh true anarchy
>muh fake anarchy

This is what the terms/flags are today:
The Red/Black flag means Anarcho-Communism
The Yellow Black flag means Anarcho-Capitalism

Adults that still find themselves in the "green square" on the political compass should be treated for mental illness. The SINGLE redeeming quality of those red square fuck-heads is that every time there's a "revolution of the people" they slaughter all of you pretty quickly and take control.

>>133514862
In short, Hitler fucked everything over with his autism and conspiracy theorists support it.

>>133514941
Why is that German holding a yugo M48? I'm asking as a /k/ommando.

>>133501833
a joke

>>133515270
https://niekischtranslationproject.wordpress.com/

>>133515410
Re-enactor maybe. I'd much rather dick around in a field with an M48 than an authentic K98 from the war.

>>133501833
Just another flag for a retarded socialist. Honestly if you are using the NaSoc flag you deserve to also die.

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>>133514261
Communists are never "cool", even if they recognize the jew. Social welfare is one thing, but bolshevism is retarded dysgenics.

>>133515592
this

>>133515618
>ancap

>>133515401
>commie

kys

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>>133514616
>This other ideology was founded by Jews so it's ok that my ideology was founded by Jews

No

>>133515673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzzQCTOlhNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsE8nFX5xD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbZXFjIzzzc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcebhfOhPMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHhtLCgYrW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e86ijqsfwc

>>133505240
>National Socialists care about our people,
What is our people? National Socalist Germany was German only If you mean white people the ideology could have been applied for literally every country didn't matter if you are different

>>133501833
/leftypol/ LARPing as natsocs.

>>133515542
Thank you.
>>133515592
That makes sense.
>>133515673
Why do you give a shit about what their economics are if their social policies almost exactly line up to yours? It just seems like autistic screeching to me. Not to mention, it's counter productive to uniting nationalist movements.

>>133515853
>LARPing

>>133515989
>Why do you give a shit about what their economics are
Because I don't want me or my family to starve to death.


>>133516052
>uses larping as an insult
see: >>133515949

>>133516162
That wouldn't happen under a socialist economy with markets. See Yugoslavia.

>>133512720
>u devide people up in races and take the white 'race' as superior.
I grew up near Baltimore. Niggers divide themselves. Besides. Why should I be forced to live with them? It is clear from BLM and other black nationalist movements they want nothing to do with each other. In fact, some of them want me dead, but I can't say anything about that in certain company because thats racist. Again, the illusion triumphs over the truth.

>How could one serious about politics take that seriously??
Because I don't live in academia. I've been around other races. I've talked to defense lawyers, cops, firefighters, all sorts of folks from all walks of life that come in contact with blacks, they have some absolute horror stories. Incest, murder, violence, utter stupidity, its sad. I'd rather live with my own kind. They can with theirs.

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>>133516295
>socialist
National Bolshevik vs National Socialism?
Bolshevism is a cancer.

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>>133514756
>Literally pre-argued against the "ITZ ALL SO-SHULL-IZM" strawman.
>...
>ITZ ALL SO-SHULL-IZM

Well then by your logic I guess Anarcho Capitalism and Anarcho Communism are the same thing. They're both Anarchy aren't they?
>inb4 Anarcho- =/= Anarcho-

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>>133516645
Why would they be mad about that?

>>133516937
lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

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>>133516645
They're practically the same things in principal except one has word that you find triggering.
>>133516821
If you don't believe in actual national socialism than quit calling yourself one and let the Strasserites take up the mantel like they should have before 1934. You're a NatCap. Just admit what you are.
>Well then by your logic I guess Anarcho Capitalism and Anarcho Communism are the same thing. They're both Anarchy aren't they?
This is a retarded question posed by a retard that's not worth answering.

>>133517173
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh-4gsDjAKg

>>133514941

> yes, but don't you see the paradox? it's almost like we want to get rid of the same thing. we from capital, you from jews that own capital. Except for we don't need a group of intruders to base our politics on - which is basically populist technique).

>degenerate left has always attached itself to Marxism.
Yes, there are problems with marxism, we should get beyond it. we're confronted to problems that marx coudn't foresee.. we're in much bigger shit :p Also identity politics is literally cancerous (although i don't agree that's what marx was saying. He basically made a socio-economic division between owners, i.e. "the Jew" ;), and wageslaves, or bourgeouisie and proletariat. but even this doesn"t fully work today.. who is the proletariat? there's a huge middleclass (classcucks), a wealthy class, thanks to capitalism and its productivity!)

>The Jews kicked out back to their own homeland
you see, this is what they call antisemite zionism... 'it's ok in their own country, just not in ours'.. (btw you're aware of the corrupt history of israel right...).
I subscribe to good citizenship! but for the good of all... And homo's... it's nature's mysterical deviation but it occured even with the Greeks (founders of western thought) so it has been there in a long run.

> human rights. its 30 concrete articles. A mix of 'negative' and 'positive' freedoms. Yes, there are absolutely problems with welfare!! Many leftists dream of a perfect welfare state but i think its stupid!

Internet is a gift. We can no longer pretend we don't know, its all there. (But still, talking about bias, normies get the most biased not through eduction but precicely the internet these days)

Hey.. at least he did he's time. It's not like he fixed apartheid cus, well, it's still there! But what about the rascism? i don't know if i should call it racism when u mean that you care about you're national identity, and you assume skin colour is an important part of your culture

>>133517187
>practically the same things
Then why not go with what has worked great? Why must you niggers be special snowflakes? Why separate yourselves over one word? And you then wonder why nobody likes or trusts you.

>>133517401
Because national socialism was never properly implemented under Hitler. I'm not a NazBol, I'm a Strasserite but I can see why someone would become a NazBol and as far as I'm concerned, they're natural allies.

>>133501833
A mental illness worst than transgenderism.

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>>133515198
Climate change is a process that is mostly out of our control, and will not be stopped by the Paris climate agreements. The effect of the US withdrawing from this agreement is inconsequential, and it was the correct decision. I am very pro-environment, but I'm not pro-stupidity or pro-virtue signaling.

We would achieve far more in that area by simply halting all aid/trade to the African countries and allowing their bloated population to fall back to pre-colonial levels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL6w4Emwyi4

There are very few truly "global" problems, and the ones that exist are usually not solvable by an enormous bureaucracy of nations. In fact, we have almost always made things worse with this approach.

>>133515116
i do not reject the second claim. im pointing to a paradox...

>>133501833
Commie larping as a nazi, mostly.

Commie alpha that gets a clean wipe to install "not true communism" version 15.7 with a failsafe.

To uninstall, simply have a free will and do something the program tells you not to. Or tell them they're a program. They flip out and kill you and there's a chance the whole thing will erase itself over night.

>>133517569
this

>>133517555
>national socialism was never properly implemented under Hitler
>i'm not a commie i s-swear
Literally "not real socialism".
Hitler's economy was fucking great, nearly perfect.

>>133517689
what paradox?

>>133518130
>nearly perfect
>couldn't even out produce the soviets or the Americans who were supposedly inferior.
>also betrayed the 25 points and sucked the cocks of industrialists.
Nice try.

>>133516379

ur ancestors brought the niggers there u know that right..
& i would bring up the argument about the environment. yes their criminal rates are way up, but if nothing changes that wont change either.. are they not in a viscious circle of getting raised in a criminal setting so they become one?
besides, i wouldn't feel safe either in a country where everyone has a gun

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>>133515947
>the ideology could have been applied for literally every country
Exactly. German national socialism was for Germans, and it was allied with every other "Nationalist" country in Europe. My people are White Americans and you as a German (hopefully an authentic one) would be my "ally".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ra-ChcOiuU

>>133518343
>a rather small country can't out produce half the developed world therefore it's economy was shit
Try harder.

>>133518646
>every other "Nationalist" country in Europe

lol no, it had a shitload of puppet states, and it also missed the USSR

>muh bolshevism
>muh jews

cringe

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>>133517302
Is that why they reformed after his death?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_economic_reform#1978.E2.80.9384

>>133517387
>Yes, there are problems with marxism, we should get beyond it. we're confronted to problems that marx could not foresee..
So the solution is that we try it again, only with some tweaks? Are you dense?

>(btw you're aware of the corrupt history of israel right...)
Yes, which is why they can tear each other apart in their own sandbox for all I care. Let them duke it out with the Arabs, not my fucking problem.

>And homo's... it's nature's mysterical deviation but it occured even with the Greeks (founders of western thought) so it has been there in a long run.
Cannibalism and incest also occur in nature, does that mean we should encourage it? All forms of faggotry are encouraged in the west thanks to that argument.

>human rights
Again, arbitrarily defined by an international cabal that is used against the nation via refugees and immigration. It's their human right to come into your home and demand you take care of them.

>It's not like he fixed apartheid cus, well, it's still there!
It's not. Affirmative action in SA is far more lenient than in the US. You can be an illiterate fuck but if you're black they'll pick you for the job. Nine times out of ten.

>>133519078
They had rather advanced industry at the time. The problem is how that industry was organized. Germans focused more on specialized workshops and finely tuned engineering as opposed to mass production. Maybe they wouldn't have been able to meet the same production quotas as the Soviets or Americans but they certainly would have been able to compete with it if they weren't autisticly concerned with making everything absolutely perfect and instead focused more on the mass production of easier to manufacture tanks and small arms.

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>>133515989
It's completely opposed to the fundamental precepts of National Socialism.

Health of the Volk: enormously damaged by making everyone "equal". The best, brightest, and most productive members deserve the fruits of their labor and rewards for their contributions. Justice for the poor/unfortunate is the goal, not equality.

Class cohesion & National Unity: destroyed by pitting members of the nation against one another in "class struggle".

It's not some trivial "economic" disagreement, it is a core difference. The people who argue for what you are suggesting are the same ones who say "Well Stalin and Hitler were BASICALLLLLY the same lolz". It's idiotic nonsense.

>Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg

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>>133517302
>Un-ironically defending Mao

>>133519571
Okay, I'll agree with you on that.

Crypto-communists still need to be burnt alive tho

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>>133517187
Strasser and his band of morons got exactly what they deserved, a long knife right in the gut.

You are Bolsheviks, and your perversion of the term "socialism" will never change that.

>>133519621
>Health of the Volk: enormously damaged by making everyone "equal". The best, brightest, and most productive members deserve the fruits of their labor and rewards for their contributions. Justice for the poor/unfortunate is the goal, not equality.
Strasser wasn't concerned with making everyone "equal". He was concerned with removing the power brokers from the nation, such as the Junker class that had a monopoly on most farmland. Something Hitler failed to do.
>Class cohesion & National Unity: destroyed by pitting members of the nation against one another in "class struggle".
Management still would have existed under Strasserism. 1/3rd of profits would go to managers, 1/3rd to the state, and 1/3rd to the workers. The difference is that the stock market would be eliminated so that the rich couldn't buy up the economy like they do now.
>It's not some trivial "economic" disagreement, it is a core difference. The people who argue for what you are suggesting are the same ones who say "Well Stalin and Hitler were BASICALLLLLY the same lolz". It's idiotic nonsense.
Nobody is saying they're the same but I'm saying national SOCIALISM and National Bolshevism have more commonalities than differences. Hitler was as national capitalist who perverted the meaning of the term.

>>133520238
Eat a bullet like your mustached daddy.

>>133519466

> try it again, only with some tweaks
you cannot try 'marxism' again... it's out there, it's a theory.. yes, tweak it (i'd get accused of revisionism in other circles)

Nobody's encouraging incest. It just happens. which is why they can tear each other apart in their own assholes for all I care, not my fucking problem.

U enjoy ur human rights as well

>only whites in muh nation
>SA nation was black
>muh whites in sa!! like what

>>133520345
>>133520568
Go starve your people somewhere else, niggercommie


>>133520238
this

>>133518378
>ur ancestors brought the niggers there u know that right..
Still doesn't mean I want to live with them.

>are they not in a viscious circle of getting raised in a criminal setting so they become one?
Yes, but what causes it? It comes from their shitty culture where fathers can run off whenever and the mothers spend their welfare money on their nails and hair. Responsibility and schooling are laughed at for "being too white." Kids in broken homes financed by tax dollars that steal for fun. The music industry, also run by jews, then pushes the thug culture on them. No, it's not capitalism's fault. It is their own for their horrible state. I know African immigrants that have called American blacks niggers.

>besides, i wouldn't feel safe either in a country where everyone has a gun
Is this some kind of snide commentary on a right of an American citizen? Do you not understand that most shootings are from said blacks, yet they complain about the cops? Do you know that the average police response time in the US is 15 minutes? That is 15 minutes you are on your own with nobody there to defend you but yourself. I thought commies were all for arms being in the hands of the people. That's what Marx said.

>>133518130

what if we change the system so the jews cannot exploid it anymore

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>>133520662
How about you give me a blow job, bitch boi.

>>133520238
Why did hitler and his boys kill the SA? That looked so bad to anyone analyzing the movement

>>133520906
>macro of a nigger threatening rape
sweet irony

>>133520851
if jews are allowed to live as equals, the system will be exploited.

>>133521043
>taking the memes this seriously
Sweet autism.

I've stopped questioning the ways and methods this retarded idiot made website functions long ago

>>133521214
nigger

>>133521446
>no u
Have a nice day bro.

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>>133520257
>muh workers
>muh profits
>muh class
Shoo economic illiterate. Greed is your primary directive not the health of the nation, and you speak in the exact same fashion as the goddamn Marxists do.

The QUANTITY of differences between the two is meaningless, QUALITY is what matters. You have a completely alien mindset, and we want no part of your White North Korea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg

Its the autism awareness flag

>>133513190
For the record I'm no AnCap. I'm a Libertarian Nationalist. I believe in a legitimate form of government (limited of course). I believe in the NAP for WHITE PEOPLE. I will admit to being a bit of civic nationalist but I'm also all about completely halting immigration and encouraging whites to breed.

And obviously I value my liberty above all else, but if the legit govt decides to shut down the border and encourage (not subsidize) white breeding...all the better.

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>>133520972
Not at all.

It was necessary to remove the radicals and thugs from the movement if he wanted the military, the other officials, and the people at large to fully accept the NSDAP and Hitler's leadership.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwIWiiqDHQs

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>>133521557
>Greed
>For the people actually doing the work and keeping the nation afloat to not be treated like slaves
Your problem is that you aren't a real nationalist. You're a faggot bootlicker of the elites. You talk about "Volkisch Nationalism" when in reality you don't give to shits about the Volk.
I just wish Otto had succeeded in killing your leader with a bomb but in the end it doesn't matter because Otto didn't need to kill your leader and hijacker of national socialism, because he killed himself. :^)

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>>133520568
>yes, tweak it (i'd get accused of revisionism in other circles)
So you are an absolute fucking idiot doomed to fail. It's a theory that has been applied in multiple situations and has failed in all of them tweaks and all.

>which is why they can tear each other apart in their own assholes for all I care, not my fucking problem.
Doesn't change the fact that argument has been used to push every other form of degeneracy under the sun. In the long run it harms a nation because if we tolerate one form of faggotry, then it is inevitable that we encourage others, that leads to hedonism and collapse. That's when it becomes your problem when a national aids epidemic occurs and people who aren't homos get infected and your neighbor's kid commits suicide because his SRS didn't fix his mental issues.

>U enjoy ur human rights as well
Irrelevant. It still an arbitrary system made by globalists that has been manipulated to force nations into committing suicide.

>SA
Apartheid ended, and now the nation is a dumpster fire, rolling blackouts and all. Soon to have Zimbabwe style land reforms if the ANC gets it's way. We all know how that went for mugabe.

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>>133522060
Your ideology is literally a joke, The entire German nation rejoiced and united when those pinko morons were purged.

Jealousy and a lack of self-confidence is the hallmark of every single bolshevik, and you are no exception. The honest working man understands that he deserves compensation relative to his production, not a pile of gibbs stolen from the rich for grunt work.

Anarcho- Capitalists are, for the most part, literally better than you. Even though they are selfish and not Jew-wise, they at least believe in the principles of hard work and personal responsibility.

They require only a thorough explanation of the (((problem))) and a dose of racial consciousness to come to reasonable conclusions, while you merely use the Kikes as a scapegoat to justify stealing from our best people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reAvWtL4ecE

>>133520724

i reckognise these cultural problems... multiculturalism doesn't work...

& yes arm the people to overthrow capitalism :p

besides, im from europe. thats a cultural difference as well. i feel like we are debating about whole other things sometimes. you know.

your left liberals is like centrist here.

also you keep ignoring my questions about 'racism'. u have that confederate flag. im sincerely interested in your views on - what to do with the jews, the blacks, or other non-white subcultures. What do you want in positive terms, what is you vision, your plan? It's one thing to formulate your hatred, another to actually change things politically

>>133521043
how? (forelooking the fact this system runs on exploitation)

>>133521214
memes are serious (they get presidents elected)

>>133509225
>>133513190

>not understanding the logical axioms of the NAP
>not realizing that force can be used when someones property rights are aggressed upon in certain cases

you cant even shitpost, go home.

>>133522061
i agree on your second point. Still, try to stop it. I'm opposed to the notion of tolerance as well. But then people will just do it in secret u know (which wouldnt be bad)

i don't buy the argument 'it all has been tried'. I see it this way; as i mentioned earlier, is see communism as a hypothesis, an platonic Idea. What does a communist do? analyse society. So what does a communist do in a post-capitalist society? analyse society? An Idea is unreachable and therefore eternal. That capitalism is the End of History is an illusion, were just an historical period.

>>133514190
I think generally that a lot of marxists would extol national socialism if they genuinely read and studied the system. It worked wonders for Germany before the entire civilized world was mobilized to stop it, and it completely satisfies the anti-capitalist, anti-corporatist, anti-consumerist ideals of marxists and communists. I truly believe that a lot of younger commies today (mostly nazbols I guess) simply align with communism because it seems like the only reasonable alternative to capitalism in a world where everyone agrees natsoc is the worst ideology ever without knowing anything about it.

Also this might be the most productive conversation I've ever had with a commie. Good on you. I used to fuck my Italian teacher in college and she was an avowed communist but we didn't talk politics an awful lot lol

>>133514300
Except that I live in the United States and we are allowed to say whatever we want in the streets and we do... Every time antifa comes out now they get their shit pushed in like the massive faggots they are. Git cucked

>>133501833
communism without the fun stuff

>>133524747
>I used to fuck my Italian teacher in college
>Americans in charge of promoting good morals

every time

>>133524747
i mean, u're right about the fascist anticapitalism.
But im not fond of putting jews in gas chambers and you know, invading poland. But i guess i should get my hand around Mein Kampf kek. I still think communism is like the opposite of this absolute Evil. What a totally wrong way of doing ethics btw, basing the notion of Evil on everything that is 'literally hitler' and therefrom deriving to a Good.

Im basically a communist out of pessimism, in lack of any alternative as you said.

Most of my commie friends are idiots. But i pleed myself to remain dogmatist in this matter. can't wait to starve people u know

I was for Trump in this election. Hillary was truly more dangerous

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>>133501983
fpbp