I know this treated used as a meme for essentially no reason,

>>133485723
Top fucking kek. This mith was propagated by Iordanres un his book Getica, but it's bullshit.

However, Alaric was born in todays Romania.

>>133486142
It's not really bullshit. The Goths started out from western Black Sea. They did descent from Scandinavia, but they were chimping Germanic barbarians at that point. Their actual expansion into the several Gothic kingdoms started from Dacia. I think Visigoths just left earlier, and Ostrogoths combined forces with the Huns or something.

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>>133485723
There actaully is a connection but it happened way before.

>>133487799
This map doesn't prove a point, really. My point is that Romania is the homeland of Goths upon being civilized and before they started their kingdoms, which is true. The fact that Goths weren't that many to begin with is also true, but if there's one population group that can be considered descendant to Goths, it's the Romanians.

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>>133488488
Oh, I had in mind the "nordic connection of Romania" you mentioned so thought I1/I2 haplogroups.
Otherwise there is still a problem with your hypothesis. Romanian language is like 70% latin with no nordic influence. So if there was any kind of interaction between goths and dacians it had no impact what so ever on the language. Doubtful.
That said I don't know much on gothic language.

>>133489924
There's not much Dacian influence in the Romanian language either. Goths were Romanized alongside Dacians, and then passed through a Slav filter as well. In that regard, lost Germanic influence is not really surprising.

By the way, don't forget that the last-remaining Gothic-speaking Goths were in Crimea. More or less the same population too. Those Goths were considered non-influential due to the fact that they are they ancestral population of the Visigoth and Ostrogoth kingdoms. They didn't build strong political alliances in Romania and Ukraine, but the core population was by and large there.

>>133490505
Every time there is a romanian thred I always bump into this. Were the dacians latin before the roman conquest or were they latinised?

There are traces of proto-romanian (istro, magleno and a romanian) not far from where the latin language originated somewhere in the balkans (can't find source for this at he moment).

Plus only half of dacians were conquered and for a short period of time. So my guess is that dacian language was already related to latin so it had an indirect influence on modern language.
Sry for late response, I'm looking this shit up. Interesting stuff

>>133492490
Dacians weren't Latin, and their language wasn't close to Latin. They spoke a satem language, ie. a language of the Balto-Slavo-Indo-Aryan group. Latin is centum, ie. part of the Greco-Italo-Celto-Germanic group.

The idea that a population was romanized to this extent so fast isn't very surprising. The entire Mediterranean was Romanized to some extent, even modern-day Arabic/Berber countries. Just look at France, the core of the much more populous Celtic culture. Their language was gone very fast. In fact, a good part of Haemus was Romanized until the arrival of the Slavs. The "Vlach" population in Greece, Albania, FYROM and Bulgaria represent remnants of Romanized Thracians, Illyrians and northern Greeks that didn't come to be Slavicized for one reason or another.

>>133485723
Now i may not be a history major but im pretty sure goths were slavs

>>133485723

I fart in the faces of the gypsy scum that sits outside our shops. Fucking ice yourself, scum.

>>133485723
It's so cute when Romanians cherry pick who they are mixed with. The goths roamed the land at one point over 15 hundred years ago for a few decades, so Romania MUST be germanic. Yet what about the Pecheneg, Bulgar, and Cuman turks who settled Romania proper for far longer, and way more recently?

>>133485723
Has anyone ever considered the Indian gypsy connection to romania?

>>133494310
I you are that brave ,why don't you beat them so thet won't return to your neighborhood?

>>133493928
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italic_peoples#Origins

No they weren't latin buy their language had the same origins as latin did. And they setteled earlier than the german and balto slavic tribes (these kept migrating to the north and north-west) so their language was less likely to evolve.