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Why is gay marriage legal but not polygamy?

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Why is gay marriage legal but not polygamy?
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>>133473476
It's on its way.
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>>133473476
Image how many neets society would have to support if half the male population knew for a fact that they would never get a woman... Shit, best case scenario you end up with roaming rape gangs of disenfranchised, but still employed, men.
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Forced morality. The same can be asked about prostitution and drug use.
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>>133473476
You don't need marriage to have kids with several women
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>>133473476

>Why is gay marriage legal but not polygamy?

If they legalize Polygamy then they legalize it for women too.

Literal cuckold concubines.
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They have some great feet
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good luck finding anything better than desperate 4/10s to go along with that
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>>133473476
left > middle > right

If you disagree you have shit taste
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>>133473476
If they attempt to legalize this in the west how do you think it would go... 1 guy allowed 3-4 wives?
HAH! It would be the women who gets to have multiple husbands and many cucks would actually go for it! You would have 1 guy getting all the sex and reproductive rights and the others footing the bill and getting the scraps in the form of a cum filled beaten up pussy.
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>>133473841
was just about to write the same

i am greek, or so it seems
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>>133473476
I don't know how I'll live with one woman, let alone more.
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>>133473476
why do people still give a shit about marriage is a better question?
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>>133473614

Fuck off libertarian faggot.

There are reasons societies view certain vices as negative. Go take your "the christians forced this on us" kike nonsense and shove it up you ass.
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>>133473841
Rather not have any of those Turks
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>>133473476
The same reason gay marriage was illegal for so long, it offends christtards.
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>>133473476
what do you care forevervirgin?
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>>133473476
well gay marriage should not be legal but sure whatever polygamy would be even worse forced monogamy would be better as it was shown to work in the past
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>>133473476
Social cohesion.
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>>133473476
they are proliferating infertility among western nations exclusively. Anything to assure white people have less children, and have less of a family structure. It's important that "flyover states" send their children off to the coastal elites to be educated, get fucked by niggers etc.
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>>133473939
Yes, they are viewed negatively, but making an argument for its negative effects does not equal making an argument for abolishing it.
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>>133473544
In hoc digits vinces
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>>133474040
the reason it was its because you dont want to normalise things such as this and the same logic being used for other things besides no logical argument for gay marriage
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>>133473476
>Why is gay marriage legal but not polygamy?

Because monogamy in legal marriages is inherently better for a stable state.
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>>133473476

Need more of them broads.
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>>133473476
>wants polygamy

Convert to Islam then
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>>133474310
You religious idiots suppressing them is what caused that shit in the first place.
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>>133473544
Digits confirm
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>>133473476

Taxes.

It will never be legal, simply because of taxes issues.
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>>133474493
really how do you know this? any proof?
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it is hard enough to put up with one woman's shit.
once they get their cycles synced you're fucked and not in a good way.
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>>133473594
Or you get a society full of space-exploring risk-takers and easily-exploitable workers, each trying to earn enough fame to score a piece of the pie.

It's worked before.
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>>133473476

better question: why is that top step crooked?
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>>133473594
>Image how many neets society would have to support if half the male population knew for a fact that they would never get a woman

This isn't even the issue. Imagine how many young men who knew their prospects for romance were effectively zero and decided that violence was the answer.

The number would be significant.
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>>133474590
It's obvious and many faggots will back it up, but here:
>Cast fags out over society
>this causes identity issues
>fags create their own "communities" and "culture"
>being fag is no longer suppressed but fag "culture" still exists

Thankfully I hear from my obnoxious faggot coworker that their "unique culture" is dying.
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>>133474714
>hy is that top step crooked?

Perspective. It's not leaning downward left to right, it's turning toward the left as you climb.
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>>133473476
nigga i cant even get 1 bitch why would i care about polygamy, also why the fuck would you wanna marry them? do you really need all that trouble?
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>>133474778
that is bullshit there was no gay identity or culture this is only few decades old and they got more and more degenerate as time passed
you can compare a gay parade one of the early ones and one today
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>>133473848
THIS. Good chuckle. But true. Feminazis would hijack the movement in the name of "equality". Except men and women aren't equal with sex. Man can be faithful and fuck around. Female cannot. Sex = emotion in female brain.
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>>133474943
It's peaked and begining to decline. I legit have a friend I didn't know was a fag because "That pride shit is retarded and I want nothing to do with it."
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Marriage shouldn't be a state issue at all and shouldn't have any laws surrounding it. It is joining church and state together.
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>>133474644
I just fucking died reading this [[senpai]]. My bitche's cycle is starting now and I'm getting frustrated dealing with her monthly emotional texts.
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>>133473848
This
already kinda happening already this would only make it worse if they legalise polygamy
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>>133473476
Two reasons. (((They))) need a vehicle to ease in pedophilia, so they started the gay acceptance push, and polygamy just reduces the concept of husbands/wives to objects.

>>133473918
kek this
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>>133474650
NEET explorers searching for space pussy when?
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>>133473476
I suppose the one on the right might be useful as a cleaner or cook or something, but I'm tempted all the same to forego the foursome and dump her at the next dock. Two is enough.
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>>133474767
Pretty sure they're already checked out with their 2D waifus, mgtow, future robot waifus, and autism. They are not picking arms up anytime soon.
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>>133475174
you know they would probably look like nothing close to human right? wont stop some people but
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>>133473918


That's not how it works. You get 1 hot wife to fuck, 1 ugly bitch that cooks, cleans and does laundry, one less attractive woman with a decent job that adds income.
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>>133473476
lurk moar, nigger.
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>>133473594
Welcome to Islam friend why do you think millions of male migrants are looking to rape EU? Islams encourages polygamy.
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>>133474650
>you can colonize Mars
>but you can't COLONIZE it
Why would a kissless, handholdless, neet virgin want to explore space?
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>>133473745

> Literal cuckold concubines.

beta orbiters are already legal, nigger.
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>>133473745
that's fine with me, men can make their own decisions
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>>133473939
kys moralfag we're sovereign citizens and there ain't shit you can do
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>>133475061
anecdotal evidence there are gays agains marriage and adoption if you can believe it but that is a tiny silent minority the trends look like its getting worse and worse
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After generations of being told no way polygamy will be legalized, even after most every other form of marriage degeneracy gets legalized, we are now starting to approach this new frontier in the decline and fall of western civilization. The "polyamorous" and Muslim apologists are going to make it happen.
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>>133475147
If (((They))) are so rich and powerful why would they want pedophilia legal? Why would they want their 10 year olds fucked by another man legally?
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>>133474830

No, it isn't, I checked.
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>>133475467
>>133475321
>>133474075
List of tryhard LARPing faggots who should apply themselves, non-exhaustive
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>>133473476
because sandniggers spreading their filthy poison is a good reason to kill more muslims, not relax western standards to accommodate them.
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>>133473476
All of them.

1st night, the first girl
2nd night, the second girl
3rd night, the third girl
4th night, all of them at the same time

fourth night foursome
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>>133475244
>Pretty sure they're already checked out with their 2D waifus, mgtow, future robot waifus, and autism. They are not picking arms up anytime soon.

You do realize the stereotypical 4chins neckbeard does not represent a significant fraction of the young males who would find themselves in this situation, right?
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>>133475984
AnCom flag calls other LARPers ok sure
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What a timely topic
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>>133475957
>No, it isn't, I checked.
lol okay.
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>>133473476
#2 is the hottest
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>>133473745
>10 cucks for one slut woman
>less cucks with desirable women
This is bad how?
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>>133475085

This. Just make it so you can add other people to your insurance without being related and drop this dependent nonsense
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>>133473841

Middle > right > left

But only middle should be bred.
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>>133476214
shit taste
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>>133473476
small titties but i still want milkies
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>>133475321
What utter bullshit. The only reason betas (real modern betas) even exist, is because Alphas created the foundation on walled cities, where the local warlord had 100 beautiful wives and needed spears (aka dumb expendable soldiers) to raid the next village. This went on up until this one dude said "were all equal" and his ideas were so popular all around the world, that this dude became the idol of betas worldwide.
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>>133476309
>But only middle should be bred.

The correct answer.
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>>133475085
An epidemic of involuntary celibacy among fighting age males is a mater of national security... Shit, you're more likely to die in an autistic virgin's shooting spree than you are to die of a shark attack. Do you think a supreme gentleman would want to murder anyone if he was getting his dick wet occasionally?
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>>133473476
Because communities with polygamy correlate strongly with crime
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>>133473476

Oy vey we are not going to have 10 white children goyim ?
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>>133476562
>An epidemic of involuntary celibacy among fighting age males is a mater of national security

I think part of why this isn't understood is because there's this image of the only fighting age males who would be "betas" are those who are stereotypical fedora wearers.

They're ignoring that economic position would be one of the strongest forces for attracting multiple wives, which means that "Chad" who is working class would also be affected. And there are more "Chads" in the working class than there are fedora stereotypes.
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>>133473476
Because females wouldn't like it and apparently they are "oppressed".
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>>133476774
That's not even the easiest way to illustrate the argument. Just imagine if every man who does get married takes two wives... That means 50% of the male population will have to go wifeless... 25% of the population (minimum). That's 75 million people in the US. A fucking army of disenfranchised men residing within a countries own borders.
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You're all wrong. It's because it offends Women. Everyone must respect the wishes of the Wahmen.
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>>133477224
How is that any different from now. Most ppl don't even want to get married. All that shit should be legal, if fags can marry.
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>>133473745
Literary no issue with this. Any man who would let himself be disgraced like that deserves nothing better. It's like saying Ropes should be banned because someone might hang himself with it.
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>>133473476
potentially too many children for the man to support and the state can't afford any more children.
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>>133477427
Fags shouldn't be allowed to marry... Using that as an argument in favor of polygamy is retarded.
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>>133474767
Actually reason is this.
But it might work out in our age desu.
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>>133477530
Only rich and successful man would have 4 children.
Things fall down,
Women always take the best option,
-> Man can only have 2 Wives, when sharing him is better then having a worse one 100%
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>>133478068
>only rich people have a lot of kids
you live in a delusion
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>>133478572
I meant to say women, I don't know why I typed children instead
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Imagine if they do legalize polygamy so full of give me in gay marriage means that a man can have multiple husbands a woman can have multiple wives but what if one of the husbands of the primary husband wants a few husbands and maybe a wife but what if that wife wants two husbands in two wives it's a RICO chain and would be the complete and utter downfall of the West. Equal rights and all....right?
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>>133473476

Need to see middle's shitter.
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>>133474493
>>133474778
>>133475061

Generation z everybody. Fag acceptance is a Trojan horse.
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>>133473939
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>>133473614
The moment I realized libertarians are our enemies.

But for the sake of old times, somebody please dig out the good post about monogamy as technology.
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Because western countries are retarded for having gay marriage legalized. Both should be not fucking allowed.
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>>133478808
>a man can have multiple husbands a woman can have multiple wives but what if one of the husbands of the primary husband wants a few husbands

Lamo, even in Islam (theoretically) the man needs consent from his wives to take more (Of cause the emphasis is on theoretically).

Even if polygamy somehow gets legalized then feminism will make a case for "taking more wives without consent is rape"

So this is not something we have to worry about.

Every member would have to agree to this, of cause you can say: "agree or I divorce you!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!"

But not just doing it like that
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>>133473476
Because Chads would hoard all the women and society would collapse.
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>>133473476
3 doesnt work

sure you can divide property among three people

or combine 3 incomes and place them in a higher tax bracket

but how about power of attorney, if one spuse is ill, the other 2 can disagree on a course of action and then you have chaos.

the legal implications are ridiculous

how about spousal benefits, then employers would have to cut off people with more then one spouse or go bankrupt.

in fact since marriage nothing more than a convoluted power of attorney and property sharing agreement, doesnt seem to be much reason for any form of marriage in the modern tbqh
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Convert to Islam and marry them overseas. Some white countries are already bending over for Muslims and recognizing their marriages.
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>>133473594
So exactly what we have now just with none of the good parts?
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>>133473476
because then there wouldn't be enough women out there
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>>133473476
The Mormons in Utah that own the railroad are polygamist. The Mormon church up there does what ever the hell it wants they are asking to have their own damn police force cause so many of their kids are running from them. Cant mess with them if they get pissed and shut the railroad down their would be no food within three days..many of the cops are Mormons up there so they already have their own police. Watch exscaping polgamy...one of their profits that was arrested had 47 wives i believe the youngest was 12...a lot of them are freemasons....Mormon religion is witch based.. the women are suppress they brainwash the children early into acceptance only a few managed to escape
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>>133475557
Everything is already "legal" for those rich and powerful enough. Keeping such things exclusevly for themselves might just make it more fun and taboo
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>>133479219
Still can't find it but this one touches on the same point. Haven't read the long version yet but here's the link.

http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/royptb/367/1589/657.full.pdf
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>>133473476

two gays can still get stuck in the debt-work-die cycle but if you have one man and several wives some of them might not be working which is an extreme bad goyim no no
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>>133479475
Look at the Mormon profit who was arrested he had 47 wives...
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>>133480028
>brainwash the children early into acceptance only a few managed to escape


thats how all religions work
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>>133480148
I think religion (not all religions) is their last hurdle. Many people still believe enough to go to war for things that are morally wrong to them. Maybe religion does serve a purpose.
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>>133476309
This
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>>133477224
Look at the Mormons in Utah. .their profit who is in jail had 47 wives....
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>>133473476

Because they are trying to slow the white birthrate, not increase it
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The "then not enough pussy for normies"-meme is stupid. In muslim countries, only really, REALLY wealthy people have more than 1 wife because of cost of living and divorce can fuck up your wealthy status pretty badly.

Legalize it, but only for men and max. 4 wifes. This is also a god method to distrubute the riches of the elite class because there are more inheritors. And God knows best.

Alaikum Salam
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>>133473476
Probably because it would lead to a shortage of women to marry. The idea was that a man was most productive when he had a family to care for so we agreed one man and one woman. This made things fair and would give more men the opportunity to get married and be productive. But feminism fucked all that up and destroyed the institution of marriage and society quickly fell apart.
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Move to Utah and convert to Mormon Fundamentalism, it's not that uncommon and is ignored by law enforcement.
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>>133480375
also at
>>133477893
>>133479295

The post I'm looking for explains that by almost guaranteeing a woman and a family to every male, monogamy harnesses non-chad ability by creating stability and opportunity for physically weak or visually unimpressive men. And these (some of them) are the guys who spend their days making calculations and diagrams, writing music, performing experiments, and so on.

The modern day pinnacle of this role is the rock star, a wiry, gangly figure unlikely (with certain exceptions) to win honor in the ring or at the track and yet viewed by society as powerful and important though he spends nearly all his time along practicing some fragile instrument. Even the most promiscuous women long to marry these men and bear their children. We've all seen it: common sluts who go full nesting instinct in the presence of an unassuming fellow with a guitar strapped to his back.

Probably not the most compelling example to use around here but there it is.
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>>133474778

Fag "culture" is an illusion and just a race to the bottom (kek).

Any government that signs on for pride this and that so they can shove degenerate behavior down everyone's throat (also kek) is hastening their own demise.
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>>133473476
Gay marriage can work, polygamy is doomed to fail.
There is no love involved.
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>>133473476
because you will be lucky if one woman lets you marry her, let alone three or more, you fat virgin.
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>>133474778
So you mean they went out and developed their own culture of promiscuity, drug abuse, gross public displays, complaining, and general depravity? You understand this proves you wrong? When faced with the reality of having to create their own subculture, they went out and created a vain and degenerate one, proving that they were being rightfully viewed as a negative, which they are.
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>>133481773
>gay marriage can work
>polygamy is doomed to fail

Behold a(n) (ex)polygamous homosexual.
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Warren Jeffs....80 wives
.many as young as 12.....
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>>133473476
In the US, there's no legal argument the Supreme Court made in favor of same-sex marriage that doesn't apply equally to polygamy.

Not that the faggot elite will ever allow it, since it isn't part of their plan.
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>>133473476
>Why is gay marriage legal but not cuckoldry?
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>>133473476
because not many men can afford 3 alimony payments.
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>>133473783
lol women would gladly share the top alpha males.
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>>133474194
>>133475408
>ancaps
Just fucking kill yourselves you stupid cunts
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>>133485156
>Not that the faggot elite will ever allow it, since it isn't part of their plan
Why would it not be? It destroys the nuclear family. Just give it time. They have to redefine marriage again... And they will
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Its already legal. its called single mothers
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>>133473476
Why no human/robot marriage?
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>>133486123
I want a robot wife...
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This is the fundamental reason why chastity and pureness before marriage is a must for a prosperous society.

Biologically we are completely hierarchical and without any societal pressure our sexuality will instantly devolve back to chimpanzee status where there's one alpha who breeds all the females in the group.

Obviously civilization cannot exist in a society centered around constant battle and struggle for reproduction rights.

The reason the West succeeded to such a degree was precisely because of the institution of marriage which was inextricably linked to the institution of the Church. And it all makes perfect sense when you look at it from a theological standpoint too. Christianity is entirely about sacrifice of self pleasure in the now for salvation in the future. Metaphorically it's the afterlife but the reality is the sacrifice of the self in the present for the realization of the self in the future both through your generation and through future generations.

Again it's no coincidence that the collapse of Christianity as an authority in the west is linked directly to the sexual revolution of the past century and the decadence and degeneration of society that followed in its wake.

If the west is to ever be saved from the road to doom on which it currently finds itself on, that will only happen when our societies reposition themselves with respects to sexual relations.

Necessarily this can only be achieved by repressing the female biological imperative of finding the best possible mate for her kids. And here is the rub of the entire women's rights movement. The fact of the matter is that the more rights females have the freer they are to pursue their biological imperative and the quicker society breaks down.

Over history women haven't been subjugated because men thought it funny but because it was a necessity of having a strong and well functioning society.
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>>133473841
middle>right>left you fucking pleb

This guy >>133476309 knows what's good
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>>133474389
Merchant states

>fixed it for (you)
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>>133486424
Me too, soon we will
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>>133487118
I neeeeeeeed to know her name!
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>>133473476
>Why is gay marriage legal but not polygamy?
And they say there is no slippery slope...
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>>133473476
I love women and i'd love to fuck as many bitches as I can. The problem with poligamy is that bitches get hooked on your dick very soon and you have to start caring about them. It's too expensive and tiresome
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>>133487299
Drossel from fireball
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>>133473476
Marry fuck fuck
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>>133487705
Thank you <3
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People who promote polygamy have a child's mind. The energy spent trying to enter the top 20% of the breeding hierarchy will not be spent on improving society. Society thrives when energy is organized and directed at the task of research, labor, or art. Polygamy societies always end up with social stability issues due to men fighting with each other to be in the top 20%. Violence is the quickest way to get there, not paving roads and improving existing technology.
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>>133473476
Literally pushing for a hedonistic society where all women try to be part of the harem of the 5% most alpha men.
This is how you destroy a society, dumbfuck.
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>>133473614
Actually it's more about ensuring that people don't lose themselves in degeneracy.
Personally I'd be fine with prostitution and drugs if there was another kind of control that people don't become dependant of those, like maybe a yearly psychologicla check up.
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>>133473745
That would literally just control the cuck population, it's only a good thing.
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>Lets stop a ton of guys from breeding
>Surely nothing will go wrong

Beta or alpha, humans are extremely deadly and a ton of guys who aren't getting regular sex or aren't allowed to have kids will literally go around enslaving women. This is how the first conflicts occurred.
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>>133473932
You're whats wrong with this world
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>>133473476
Because polygamy would increase the white population.
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>>133473594
This

Have you ever heard "Women would prefer share a king than to have their own farmer?" Replace king with Chad and farmer with normie.

Remember, womens only goal is to be with Chad and they would prefer to share him than to be with 4chan posting nerd like you any day. If you got a wife or gf, chances are she's just using you. Or holding onto you until Chad asks her to come suck his dick.

Also keep in mind that women see no such thing as "normies or average guys". She sees 20 percent of men as the guy she wants (Chad) and the other 80 percent could go die in a fire because they are massively ugly to her.

I actually wish it was legal so we could go ahead and destroy society. I'm tired of living in this fake reality where women are really happy with average guys and not constantly cheating. Let Chad have them all. Normie society can then start the beta uprising.
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If polygamy would be legal everyone here would have even less of a change of getting a gf.

Chad will literally take everything and nothing you can do about it
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>>133473476
Depends on where you live, head up to Utah and you can get away with it.
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>>133490142
>Chad will literally take everything and nothing you can do about it
That's what's going on anyway.
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>>133489754
this, whites are the smartest and richest, they would get all the girls from all the races and (((they))) dont want this. They want niggers to fuck your wifes
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>>133473476
After Obergefell there's no reason they shouldn't legalize poly. It's the right thing to do and would make America much more accommodating to Muslim immigrants. They could look to sharia jurisprudence for inspiration in how to resolve authority and marital property for >2 spouses.
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>>133473476
Soon
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polygamy would destroy society

>men are the most productive gender in society by far
>men are productive so they can woo a woman
>men who are consider themselves unable to get any woman go into depression, lose productivity and in some cases kill themselves (supreme gentlemen etc)
>now polygamy becomes legal
>10% of men get 100% of the pussy
>90% of the men lose all motivation to be productive
>entire economy collapses and civilization goes back to the stone age
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>>133475321
Seeing as this is a japanese go-tactics board, I am surprised that no-one has pointed out the ainu - which allegeddly lived gender-seperated most of times (with male kids given over to the mens group at a certain age)
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>https://vid.me/BOea
Reminder that ancaps think like gorillas
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>>133490566
>implying this would be a bad thing

Fuck society
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>>133473476
Yachts = instabitches
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>>133490694
>hurr somehow history wouldn't repeat itself

fucking idiot, we'd just end up in a monogamous modern society yet again
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>>133490566
you know what else pussy keeps in check? Niggers. Were you to forbid the monkeys acces to white pussy there would be a revolt
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>>133490566

>implying women don't do this anyway
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>>133473476
>should be legal for chad to get more ass
REEEEE
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>>133475333
If their sexual frustration is 'out of this world'
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>>133490865
only because the jew has been corrupting our society

this is why we need to go back to traditional social policies
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>>133475408
>moralfag
>i can and will be as much of a degenerate and literally ruin my life because i value the idea of freedom more than the real implications of it.
please just kill yourself
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>>133490934
Not just policies, but culture as well. But that's only during peace time. After a war, you instate polygamy. That's how we used to do it in Romania.
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>>133473476
First manage to get one anon, then we can go from there...
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>>133473476
Feminism.

Old roasties know higher age of consent, age of marriage, and number of wife restrictions are good for them.

Look at countries where roastie degeneracy is discouraged, there is a common theme -- lower age of consent, lower age of marriage, and higher number of wives. It's the solution.
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>>133473841
Correct. It's like reading a book, from left to right.
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>>133478572
I get you're saying poor people have more kids, but don't forget that welfare makes poor people rich sometimes.
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>>133475333
>handholdless
this is why I like /pol/
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>>133491372
maybe you should fuck off
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>>133473476
What is the point of having four wives if you can have a new whore every single day for the same price? Marriages are overrated and one single woman for whole life is terrible decision.
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>>133491166
policy reinforces culture
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>>133491457
yeah, why?
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Becouse only muslim man can.
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>>133491911
because you're pure redit
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>>133473476
Left is objectively the most qt. The other two have average faces, and anyone who disagrees is a faggot.
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>>133492287
have literally never browsed reddit, but whatever
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>>133473745
i knew a situation like this or less,
>a group of 3 men in their 40's (married and with kids) get a 9/10 19yo poorfag girl who is studing the university
>the men rent her a house, buy her a cheap car and run with all her costs and give her a good sum of money every 2 weeks
>the only condition is that she will spend one night with one of them, next day with other and so until she finish the university
>they even hangout togheter in public places since the girl not was dating anybody and only one was allowed to stay with her in her home per night
the girl was literally the "lover" of those three men
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>>133491575
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>>133473841
>>133473904
>>133491295
Spotted the sandniggers.

If you are not preferring the middle one, you are a filthy turkroach.
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>>133494096
>jews actually want you to not get divorced and alimony'd
really makes you think
jews only want you to not reproduce, and these days you don't need a wife for that, just save your money and hire a surrogate like every rich male athlete does these days
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>>133494096
i don't know, that happy merchant looks like a friendly guy. maybe he's right. lubing my throat for that massive blue pill right now
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>>133473476

With feminist hypergamy the return of the 80/20 harems will legalize it, or at least make it commonplace. But that itself will just be a blip on the radar of weak male and female mistakes as we go through the patriarchy phase all over again.
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Because it would be the answer for the white demographic crisis.

People in /pol/ will complain and call it degenerate but in reality they do so because they're mostly beta males and deep down they know in wha position would they be were polygamy ever to become legal.

Of course polygamy exists today, and it is far more common than most of you would believe. It just isn't made official through state sanctioned marriage licensing, but many many people have multiple long term relationships, often involving one male and several females and spanning several years so it's a thing that is done and it happens naturally.
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>>133477224
>A fucking army of disenfranchised men residing within a countries own borders
Imagine if you were to add another army of fighting age men to such a country... like oh I don't know, muslims?
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>>133473476
Sex bots first.
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>>133473476

There's literally no legal or moral basis for it to be moral anymore besides the fact that the government doesn't want to give even more tax breaks for married couples. They love their taxes.

This is one of the main reasons people were so opposed to gay marriage. Once you make one exception, there's really no reason to stop making exception. Polygamy, incestual marriage, inter-species marriage, underage or child marriage, et al. Every single one of these things should now technically be legal as the Supreme Court has effectively determined a legal marriage to be a marriage between anything a person or person(s) claims to "be in love" with.

The slippery slope is real. Look at how hard they are pushing and normalizing transgender rights and pedophilia now. Fucking canada made animal rape legal.
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>>133494941
>still believing blonde girls are the best
Are you 15 ? Because only young kids and retards obsess over blondes.

And hell, if she was a real blonde I would understand your viewpoint. But it's quite obvious that she's a fake blonde.
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>>133490142
>>133490566
>>133496244
what is the problem with the 80/20 split?
the strongest, most capable males reproduce and the weak betas dies out
someone please help me find a problem with this
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>>133473476
I always have 3.
Home girl, one I live with.
The good fuck, always had her, too much of a bitch to live with.
Always rotating out a new 18-22 year old.
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>>133473476
because gay marriage isnt about love or equality, its about destroying society
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>>133501341
Because the more betas get shafted the more likelier they are to start a beta uprising. Loads of revolutions in history were essentially beta uprisings.
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>>133501571
they would get snuffed out in a couple of generations and won't have enough time to start a rebellion and even if they do, what is the problem with it?
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>>133473476
because marriage is about granting resources for a son. chances of a chad abandoning some of his children with polygamous wives are high. since fags cant have children it doesnt matter

>>133476309
middle has dyed hair. left one is the whitest
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>>133501341

Betas produce non-sexual value (food, taxes, etc.) the only reason to do this is for the prospect of having sex.
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>>133501900
Because its the shit that causes things like crime levels and the like. If you look into most historical events, a revolution against something, be it the English Civil Wars, the Russian Revolution, etc, it was always failed normies or betas behind it that weren't satisfied with the status quo. It's the same with most crime gangs.

Tl;dr; Men who aren't Chads decide to skip the whole family meme, they start writing, they start making up new political ideologies, they gain traction. Others accumulate wealth and fund the intellectuals and the footsoldiers and boom. You got yourself a problem.

In the past most of these men were in the military and had wars to fight. Now? They got no one to fight but who they percieve as elite.

Also I'm not saying it'd be literal virgins rising up ala Elliot Rodger, I'm saying it'd be a gradual thing, until you eventually get yourself communism 2.0 or an actual return to traditionalism movement.
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>>133502313
This pretty much.
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>>133502313
so we're forcing women to carry some weak beta's seed so we can cuckold him out of the fruits of his labour
i prefer caveman days where only the strong survived to be honest
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>>133501571
The problem with allowing the harem system, other than what you just said, is that the alpha/beta dynamic is more complex than superior/inferior. Many "betas" in the eyes of women have produced the greatest scientific discoveries, have been the greatest soldiers, innovators, ect. If you take away the motivation of giving a beta a wife, he doesn't produce anything, he just becomes part of an angry mob bent on overthrowing society. The harem system has already been tried. It is called third world savagery. It leads to weak unstable societies. Patriarchy, enforcing traditional sexual morality with a pussy in every pot, leads to stable, productive civilizations. This is what enabled humanity to rise above hut dwelling idiocy. In the early days of institutional patriarchy which was enforced by religion, polygamy was still allowed because many men died in war, and there was a surplus of females, so the guys at the top could still have multiple wives with everyone else still getting at least one for the most part. That has changed, therefore polygamy is no longer tenable.
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>>133473476
>Why is gay marriage legal but not polygamy?
because then the beta uprising would become a real thing.
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If you guys haven't noticed, the gap between 'alpha' and 'beta' is widening. There is an increasingly larger and larger pool of incels, whom are enjoying their shut-in life with videogames and whatever, and increasing women riding the alpha CC and being independent since they all have careers and no longer need men to support them. Thus we are seeing a similar phenomena that we have seen with the widening wealth gap between rich and poor. I can only guess where this whole trend will lead to
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>>133501900
>they would get snuffed out in a couple of generations
that's not how the alpha/beta 80/20 paradigm works.
Ever if every man is a superchad that would be considered an alpha today in the next generations they would still be considered beta probably for some incredibly shallow or retarded reason.
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>>133501361
how can I do this
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>>133503392
be a degenerate with no scruples
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>>133502682
Yeah, well, sexual betas overwhelmingly produce most of your food, your medicine, your shelter, your air conditioning, your security, and your means of making a living. You might find you aren't as alpha as you think if you were put back in the caveman days and had to fend for food- no antibiotics for your infections, no advanced weapons, no nerdy beta to repair your femur fracture, no technology to guard you from the elements, no hygiene, ect. What women select for sexually often has little to do with intelligence or even toughness. Without sexual restraints on women which force them to breed with "betas," you would likely live in a society filled with a bunch of 70 IQ apes with 12 inch dicks, living in mud huts, who can't read or write. You know, like Africa.
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>>133502715
This is pretty much what I refer to. I'm not talking alpha/beta as in normal functioning guy vs basement dweller, the problem is that women won't as much as look at a guy if he doesn't have an Adonis physique. It's not even about money anymore, if we're taking Rodger's example. He had a fucking director dad and drove a fancy car, in all honesty he should've been drowning in pussy even if he was a complaining cunt. Women tend(ed) to look past that if you got the car and money, but now they want the dick.

>>133503147
This. It's not a huge problem now, but imagine what kind of problems this'll be in a few years. Five, maybe ten.

>>133503392
See >>133503498 and also abandon all hobbies, abandon any dreams or career prospects. Get yourself a job at the gas station and use the money to hit the gym. After that, you'll be drowing in pussy.
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>>133502715
but i sort of feel bad for the women who would have to reproduce with the betas while their friends are having kids with the alphas
the only way to fix this without forcing women to suffer through some microdick trying to fuck them is an artificial womb
hopefully the japs can deliver
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>>133474644
never thought about this holy cow
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>>133473476
live in muslim majority country and u will be able to marry 4 wives
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>>133473476
> sex is totally overrated.
> this whole alpha/beta thing does not portray reality correctly. It's a theory (a flawed one, full of bugs)
> people tend to be assholes if they don't get a kick in the teeth from time to time, thats why these arbritary rules were created for and from
> in the end, most of us will just say "fuck this shit show called life" and just maximize your own intrest, disregarding all these stupid ass rules and conventions other people put on you.
> perpetual cycle of fucking something and getting fucked
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>>133503742
>their friends are having kids with the alphas
'Alphas' usually don't make very good fathers. More than likely those friends with the alphas would be single moms.
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>>133473594
realistic and sentient sex bots would alleviate the issue
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>>133490930
Kek
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>>133502682
>i prefer caveman days

In caveman days it was the betas that invented the spear and later the bow and arrow.

Chad ended up dead, full of arrows and spears, when the betas insisted that they wanted some of the women and chad refused.

TLDR - civilization happened. What the fuck did you think the result would be?
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>>133503147
The collapse of civilization. Pretty simple. Restraining women's sexuality to produce the nuclear family is almost the definition of civilization.
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>>133473476
Honestly .. any man willing to put up with multipul wives is a braver man than I, I have 1 and its hard work keeping her from wanting to kill me.
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>>133488364
Exactly, what better way to speed up the collapse of this house of cards than pushing for polygamy? Finally being denied their roastie openly will likely be the catalyst for pissed off normies to swell in number.

Then we step in to direct their anger, simple stuff.
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If gay marriage is legal,Polygamy should be legal
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>>133488364
>>133488364
Exactly. Look at how much energy is spent by young men today on "learning game," going to clubs, obsessing over pleasuring women, preening for them, worrying about their sexual inadequacies, ect. In a stable civilization, a man got married young, and from then after all his energy was spent trying to provide for his family. This redirection of male sexual energy into productivity is what separated man from ape and built the modern world.
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>>133474714
>better question: why is that top step crooked?
Could you imagine if you had to many beers.
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>>133505946
Yeah and eventually when these men get frustrated because they fail at the game, they ditch the family idea and go for something else. And what that something else is could be something very dangerous as many have pointed out.
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>>133501341
Point to a strong empire/country/society that existed on the harem model.

You can't because they all died out. Things that happen throughout history are just random or arbitrary choices. They happen for a reason and there is a reason why all the successful societies repressed the female sexual freedom.

For men sex with females is basically the end goal in life. If you want a strong functioning society you have to provide as many men as possible with women.
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I want to be polygamous.

I don't want to spread my seed in only one woman in my life but I also want to help raise my own kids.

My girl is wifey material and she sexually accepts FFM. Emotionally she might if it's very well done. I need a woman that brings a decent salary in addition to our own so we can have more kids. How do I go about finding a smart girl, not degenerate who accepts that polygynism is the way out of this cucked society filled with cucked males?
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>>133473476

bcuz white babies iz evil n shyt
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>>133501341

Alpha/beta is relative. Killing off the current crop of betas will just mean that 80 percent of the remaining guys (80 percent of your 20 percent) become beta. What you end up with is an even more physically dangerous, frustrated beta. Then you really will get a beta revolt. So you have to give every man a wife to keep society stable and the shekels flowing. Hypergamy never ends.
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>>133506545
Why do you think Islam has a seemingly endless supply of willing warriors? These are Islams neckbeards, the ones who can't claim women because the rich oil sheiks have four (sometimes even more). They need to rely on women they claim through conquest or die and get "muh 72 virgins". Not to mention the generally awful state of murderous behaviour in islamic nations even WITHOUT the spreading of american "democracy".
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>>133503589
being "beta" is just a coincidence.
you really think alpha men didnt fuck women and have lots of kids? some of those turned out to be beta because they couldnt beat their brothers to the top.
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>>133510473
Worst thing is its not even about neckbeards anymore. Standard normies can barely get laid, maybe if they're lucky and start 'playing the game' but otherwise they'll have a really hard time.
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>>133473476
Can you please stop posting these disgusting shitskins? seriously no one should these attractive.
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I'm kind of in a polygamous relationship right now.
We have a live in maid who is our +1.
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because of inheritance, who will inherit your empire. your first born son of course, say all you wise with sons. ---- civil war begins
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>>133511483
wise = wifes
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>>133473745
When I was young I thought multiple wives would be awesome

When I got older I realized I would rather have someone that could help with the foot rubbing and yard work.
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>>133511339
Do you do FFM?

Have their cycles synced up?
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>>133473594
>best case scenario you end up with roaming rape gangs of disenfranchised, but still employed, men.
So India with a slightly higher ratio of white people and a much higher ratio of toilets?
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>>133473476
It is here

LOL
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>>133511615
Yes
Yes, I time it now after this being the third year we've been together as 3. I just bake a batch of cookies, go get some Rocky Road icecream, and we lay down together with a movie on (usually some romcom or a comedy).
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>>133474767
>knew their chances for romance were effectively zero

You mean like it is right now? I'm in the almost Chad tier (but still not close enough) and I'm completely burnt out with western women. I'd rather read books and spend time with my family than chase whores anymore. Reject bitches, aquire knowledge.
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>>133473476
Middle only
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>>133473476
If you go to middle-east and convert to islam, you grab 3 - 4 hot 16 year olds. Then you bring them to your country and go live in the woods, you don't let them wear hijab around the house and make them wear bikini's etc. You just solved your problem.
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>>133512430
Go away Sharijans
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>>133511984
Sounds great. You must be rich to have a live in maid. That's how you got a second one.
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>>133511984
so no sex? thats silly
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>>133473783
You are retarded, women would rather have their own sister as a co-wife to a real alpha than get married to you and be your only wife.
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>>133473476
Not in Columbia or some mid-Eastern countries.
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>>133473745
This would mean that the cucks can only have like 1 kid each. And I highly doubt the woman wants to be pregnant all the time. So the cucks would kill themselves off. This is not the issue.

The issue is obviously the degeneracy
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>>133474767
Most guys who are fit and can actually afford to shoot often are not neets lol
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Marry many wives you cucks!
You even live longer!

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14564-polygamy-is-the-key-to-a-long-life/
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>>133491017
>"WAAHHHHH WHY WONT THEY LET ME RUN THEIR LIVES WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH"
Like a fucking child who can't have his way. Their business isn't yours so fuck off you statist prick. It's their choice if they want to self-destruct
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>>133514717
Not rich, but pretty well off after getting a very worth NuclearEng degree.
>>133515108
What? Thats just on their period you potato
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>>133473476

Given that the female population outnumbers the male, polygamy makes a lot of sense.
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>>133516312
IDK niggers can be fit and shoot often, and they are pretty much all NEETS
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>>133474650
wouldn't it be easier to rape a rich geezers wife than to go to space?
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>>133473614
I am no longer a libertarian.
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>>133490036
>She sees 20 percent of men as the guy she wants (Chad) and the other 80 percent could go die in a fire because they are massively ugly to her.
dude their is no 20%-80% you feel taht way but the vast majority of men don't, they're is probably something wrong with you, not something massive or necessarily negative, but something that wards off women, hating society and women with this much intensity is probably either a symptom or a cause of this.
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>>133490337
Ya for you guys dealing with girls in their 20's, sure, but when the girls hit the wall they will lower their standards dramatically to find a field mule who will work and provide for their remaining 60 or so years of taking up space on the planet.

The girls who realize this by their late 20's will get a better pick of the field mules than the ones who wait until they're well into their 30's. Either way, the mules will never compare to the stallions they sucked and fucked through their 20's. The mule's sex life will be non-existent once he's signed himself over to her via marriage.
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>>133480375
Interesting. Strange how we've essentially suffered a massive collapse of social structure and knowledge as a people. Makes it seem more likely that one day we might see the same thing with physical technology.
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>>133517805
Dude, I have sex with my wife almost every night, sometimes twice. Don't marry a frigid bitch and learn to stay attractive to her, problem solved. It's hilarious how guys expect women to stay attractive to them but won't make some effort to be attractive themselves. And I don't mean working out, I mean being a fucking man.
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