Syria General /sg/ - Good Morning Syria Edition

al mawt li israel

>>>/wsg/1776768

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>>133446918
Assad will win

i'm going to sleep
if anyone wants a OC meme
hit me up with a (you)

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Ready to slaugher poor bearded children and attack hospitals

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>>133447060

Top kek
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/885345291922284544

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Seventh for red busses

>>133447142
what's the request ?

>>133446918
Is Latakia a nice place to vacation in?

>>133447169
I though those red hats were just used by turks

>>133447273
Ottoman empire was a thing and it stuck on his head i guess.

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>>133447260
>what's the request ?
haha sorry i thought you already had a fresh OC and wanted some (you) to release it

>>133447270
It has Nice beaches

>>133446918
>Everything you need to know
coming to /pol/ for news is like going to McDonalds for deep space networks.

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Might translate "Voice of Revolutionaries" in the next few weeks (Sawt al mokawama)
Any suggestions on other hezbollah nasheeds you'd like translated?
Planning on translating at least 2 nasheeds/songs after august the 1st

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>>133447525
This is not /pol/.

>>133447528
It's voice of the resistance you dum dum

is hezbollah really running a christian regiment or whatever?
what a weird war

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>>133447742
uhh

>>133447745
Hezbollah got the christians involved in this fuckfest in the first place. Every attempt at reconciliation is propaganda even if the christians support hezbollah

>>133447742
Not often I see Syrians posting at these hours. Has the sun risen by any chance?

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>>133447954
>/sg/ songs

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>>133447977
>Hezbollah got the christians involved in this fuckfest in the first place
>protecting christians from getting slaughtered in Syria is """""getting them involved""""
Neck yourself my man.

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>>133446956
>Assad will win
You're wrong, actually Trump will win.

You just better hope Assad is on the same side as Trump when its all said and done.

>>133448089
I'm autistic like that. My sleep cycle gets fucked during exam month because less exposure to the sun.

>>133447977
Fuck off CIA

>>133448175
I'm referring to hezbollahs role in the affairs of the region as a whole not just the syrian conflict

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>133448208
Fuck off Zionist. No (you) for you.

>>133448239
same to be honest
finals in two weeks

>>133447745
Elaborate. What do you mean?

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I'm off to bed. Make sure SAA doesn't report their gains until i wake up, ok?

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133448208
>mfw this dude just got hit with the Curse of Assad
>>133448360
heyo, no yous 4 him. send him back

>>133448434
>whitehelmetstrainingvideo.webm

>>133447260
Can you make mercy from overwarch in Syrian colours with a light brown tan

>>133448089
>>133448239
And yeah the sun had risen. I had been awake for 4 hours now though.

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>>133447525
This isn't pol lad
We are pretty fucking good at keeping up with news from Syria tho

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>>133448501
>tfw BBC actually aired that segment

>>133448547
Cool. Sunrise means action in the war.
>inb4 durr, ofc it does
May need to go to bed soon jej.

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>>133446918

>>133448360
>da joos
>>133448469
>curse of assad
the only people affected by the curse are his own people who have died by the hundreds of thousands because of his inability to relinquish power

>>133448536
OK....
THIS would b sick

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>>133447528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EY-PFIPnWE

maybe there is a translated version out there, but i dont even know its name

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>>133448726
Dixieanon made this for me. It turned out much better than I though!

>>133448386
People think hezbolla has a regiment of Christians fighting in its ranks

>>133448714
no shit, we saw through this tactic day 1

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>133448725
>not believing in the jewish question (+ supporting israel)
You're showing your true colours. Go back to TD.

>>133448714
You realize this discord screenshot crap only works in /ptg/ right? Anyone can make that shit up.

>>133448811
I'll try to ask my friends and see if they know what its called

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>>133448888 (HEIL)

>>133448888
>the jewish question
nazi larper shills are the absolute worst, stop memeing even you dont really believe that shit

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>>133448811
>id: Qoc2Xc++
>133448811
auto cheked

>>133448965
cant you know the name by listening to the lyrics?

>>133448848
Tbqhwy
I don't want that image to be mercy with cow tits

>>133449053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViMPE2R5V10
Fugg, she has the voice of an angel!

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>133449052
>national socialists are shills because they don't support a Zionist
td is the absolute worst

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>>133448848
nice
love me some meaty hotaru
>>133449053
Nope.
Sorry. I'm not really an expert on Hezbollah songs.

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133448725
my sides
>>133448888
DANG
133449052
this dude is you huntin hard

The dog smells the bakeries and the children, just to help the horrible regime to kill more

>>133449188
I don't care if you don't approve of zionism but generalizing against all jews is stupid and you know it.

>>133449264
>my sides
of course you don't give a shit about all the people he got killed in his civil war. You wouldn't be here if you cared about them.

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>>133449142
thanks to that girl i discovered Kuban Cossak Choir, excellent shit desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y9DfylJoXw

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>>133449276
Here it is

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>>133448888
alhamdulillah

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>133449282
>not all jews, goyim
>133449349
>Assad started the war, not our Greatest Ally!

>>133449093
fit tits > ballons... although dixianons oc 4 ebin is pretty nice
>>133448848
this is amazing
133449349
do you genuinely believe that or are you just shitposting? cause would be more than happy to enlighten you

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So the United States coalition successfully takes both ISIS capital cities in Iraq and Syria and we also kill Abu Albagdadi in Mosul.

I'd say that makes us the winners in the war against ISIS.

>133449349
Lelele
He is trying to guilt trip /sg/

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>bpDgEjUE
>jUE
>Hue
Guys, what if it's a Huetist shitposting us on a proxy?

>>133449535
I don't just believe it, it's a fact. Instead of allowing a democratically elected government unite and fight ISIS together they've been fighting eachother for years and just getting everyone needlessly killed.

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133449605
>W369xHUA
>HUA
>HUE
We got two huetists on proxies now

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>>133449565

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>>133449602
The US army fear this

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>>133449568
>Burger thinks they killed bagdadi
Lel

>>133449534
>not all jews, goyim
perfect example of stupidity, generalizing against someone and creating a boogeyman to blame all your problems on.

Sad!

>133449696
Assad was democratically elected

this >>133449772 was for >>133449568

>>133449774
Sure wasn't Putin or Assad.
>>133449794
he thinks that winning 100% of the vote is free and fair democratic election.

>>133449379
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5deoG2axspeYFgVXBDX0xw
She even has a channel

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>>133449772
I genuinely think the SAA will be extremely strong with all the Russian tech they are getting after the war
Also they will have a huge nationalist backing of the people
>mfw SAA rolls into tel Aviv in 2020

>>133449053
To think I had forgotten all about her until you posted that pic

>133449793
You sound like a liberal ranting on about how racism is bad. If anything is sad, it's your parents when they see you
>133449884
88.7% actually
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_presidential_election,_2014

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Too many fatties un the army, didn't assad starved them all?
>#Syria Commander of #SAA #SyrianArmy #Syrian Government ALLIED #Tribal_Forces Tribal Fighters - Commander Turki Al Bouhamad

>>133449959
>tfw SAA will be the best (native) military in the middle east, second only to Iran.

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>>133449921
yeah i know, i love russian girls chanting folk songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOTnSXK_dHM

>>133449998
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_presidential_election,_2000
>99.7%

>>133449959
>strong with all the Russian tech
syrians will be excellent hackers too

>>133449998
>racism is bad
It is bad though, the difference is that liberals are the real racists (Except nazi larpers like you) and they use racism to hold the black population down.

>>133449774

Abu Albagdadi was killed in Mosul. They already proved that. The US coalition was in Mosul, not Assad you stupid cock sucker. I don't even have anything against Assad but you're fucking retarded.

>>133450319
>proved that

I'll need to see some of these proofs right now sir

>>133449772

You honestly think Mattis is scared of anyone? Especially a pack of sand niggers?

>>133450424
US government said so you dumbfuck

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>this low energy shitposting by burgers
Just go to bed, you're too tired.

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>>133450303
>liberals are the real racists
kys

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>just as i've taken my evening dump and about to go to bed, fucking weekly hasbara kike shows up
Disgusting.

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>>133450077
btw stop posting the ever faces, youy make me remember /int/ good old times

>133450190
You can't blame people for loving good leaders.
>133450303
>liberals are racists
>hold blacks down (muh based black man)
You're either baiting or you're seriously retarded

>>133450497
That's funny if what I'm saying is so ridiculous how come you cant make any intelligent arguments?
>edgy nazi flag
>making fun of americans even though he is an american
>tripfagging
>namefagging
You're 15 years old tops, probably an overweight fatass too.

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>>133450497
Impossible, there can be no sleep.

>>133449568
It was the Russians you imbecile
>>133450319
>in Mosul
MY FUCKING SIDES
>>133450451
they actually said they can't confirm it you twat :DDDD

>133450451
>everything my government says is true
like saddam's wmd's

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>>133450527
>all those rares I will never collect

>>133450451
Right so we've isolated the designated retard in this thread. Time to hide your posts, wew.

>>133450620
>You're either baiting or you're seriously retarded
It's pretty fucking clear that the left has used a victim mentality to hate white people, cops, and the government. That's the racism the left is using, the right wing only wants them to be responsible adults and take care of their own problems.

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>>133450732
just ask

>>133450424

https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-07-11/syrian-rights-monitor-says-isis-chief-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-dead

http://www.aranews.net/2017/07/syrian-rights-body-confirms-death-isis-chief-baghdadi/

https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-dead-monitor-634858%3Famp%3D1


Killed in Mosul. Just Google it you retard.

>133450634
If anyone's overweight, it's you.

>>133450685

See

>>133450901
Moron.

>133450759
>wants them to be responsible adults and take care of their own problems
doubt you do that, soldier of Zion

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>>133450895
/int/ will never EVER be good again

133449884
85% of vote with 73% voter turnout. maybe you can't wrap your head around the fact that he's actually a good dude and there weren't legions of media manipulators trying to actively divide their nation. Imagine a vote for high school president. 85% is normal for a good dude in a country that wasn't invested by demons of the globe. very rare tho
133450451
well then it must be true
>>133450497
gonna stop giving shadowyou's after I make a few points. we're still metaphorically feeding em with responses

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>>133450901
>https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-07-11/syrian-rights-monitor-says-isis-chief-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-dead
>The Pentagon said it has no information to corroborate the reports of his death.
>Abdel Rahman said Baghdadi "was present in eastern parts of Deir Ezzor province" in recent months, but it was unclear if he died in the area or elsewhere.

>>133448208

Trump and Assad are on the same side

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/SG/ ROSTER

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>>133451124
>>133450895
>All those elemental lels
>tfw /int/ is a dead board
>tfw I only go there to collect the lels

>>133450938
oh wow sick burn, think that up all by yourself?

>>133451165
Trump is a neocon. There's no way he's going to let Assad remain in power

>>133451165
not really

133450759
ok JDF confirmed. partisan dividing as well. pretty clear. please stop

>>133451165
that's like saying Israel = good guys

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>>133451294
>tfw you know trump will probably start WW3, but none of that matter cause he killed /int/ and you will never forgive him for that

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More fat soldiers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHgntjk2N0s

My first youtube video, tried to drop minor redpills

>>133451409
>partisan dividing
Hurt your feelings you liberal twat?

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Going to bed /sg/
>Stay /comfy/
>Keep shitposting
>Ignore the bad shills/redd*tards
Have a QT on me!

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Get a load of this butthurt neocon autistically screeching about Russian warcrimes as the US drops white phosphorous on Raqqa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpJZh92hsaY

>133451614
>everyone that doesn't support a zionist neocon is a liberal
>>133451645
Good night

>>133451137

Yea. The Caliphate leader was over in fuck all no where... I'm sure that's the case... fucking retard.

Mosul was their main Capital, it fell to us so it makes sense that the top boss was killed in their main capital. Plus we are taking their second capital in Syria as well.

We will have two cities while the Russian coalition has a bunch of useless desert. Good job.

>>133451685
>da joos again
Cant you come up with anything other than a generalization based on race?

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>>133451645
cya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfc4F5WMhrg

>>133451390
>>133451399

Trump and Assad are both Putin assets

>>133451461

they are

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>133451794
>the guy calling others liberals are acting like liberals

>>133451534
dumb video.

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>>133448208
BRICS is militarily untouchable now. Atlanticism is dead and all the sanctions of the west are becoming ineffective. American blue water naval dominance can no longer cut off trade between the world's largest economies and weapons manufacturers. Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon have an unbroken logistical chain going all the way back to China and Russia. At will they could shut down Hormuz, bomb Ghawar and Tel Aviv (both not in NATO) and crash the petrodollar. The US situation in the Middle East is far more precarious than Assad's is. Europe is getting ready to turn on you because they'd rather buy oil from Russia than the fucking mudshit Saudis the US is willing to die for.

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>#Syria Pro #SAA #Syrian GOVT #Tribal_Forces Tribal Fighters Commander Turki Al Bouhamad is part of the Arab Socialist Movement

>>133448208
>implying Trump gets to decide anything except kissing Israels ass
yeah yeah, have a (you) and go away.

>133451856
>israel is good
oh, td

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>>133451873
>At will they could shut down Hormuz
theres no cure for this level of retardation, go back to jacking off to pictures of hitler while the US navy goes unchallenged for another hundred years

>>133451645
Night Ebin!

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So as someone who's new I have a few questions.

You claim the gas attacks are faked, but i've been told all the gas attacks were air-dropped, and because rebels/daesh don't have air capabilities, Syria is the only option and thus Assad is gassing his own people.

Your counter?

People also claim that rebels groups aren't allied with daesh because there's in-fighting among certain terror groups.

True/untrue?

Genuinely curious. Thanks.

>>133451856
>>133451390
>>133451399

>A Syrian military source told AFP that Syria’s armed forces were warned about possible US military action hours before the strike took place.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2017/apr/07/us-syria-response-donald-trump-assad-pentagon-live

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>>133451773
>makes claim
>provides source
>source doesn't back the claim at all
>source makes clear all claims are bogus
>keeps shilling

>>133452041
They'll just scream da joos, they have no argument against facts like the sarin gas attacks. They though they could get away with warcrimes under trump, and they were wrong.

>133452154
>sarin gas
>facts
Hope another anon gives you the real facts on that, too tired to do it now. last reply to you, jidf

>>133452107

Did you not fucking looking at them? It said he was confirmed dead in Iraq. Your not fucking in Iraq. And the claim you posted was about him allegedly being killed by Russia's coalition in Syria, which as you said, could not be proven.

>>133452279
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-assad-chemical-attack-france-says-it-has-proof-khan-sheikhoun-a7691476.html

All the human rights watch groups agree that it was sarin. Keep hoping for someone to "give me the real facts" because thats all you have is false hope.

>>133452406

https://archive.is/hhDWj

>>133452315
from your link:
>The Pentagon said it has no information to corroborate the reports of his death.
>Abdel Rahman said Baghdadi "was present in eastern parts of Deir Ezzor province" in recent months, but it was unclear if he died in the area or elsewhere.

So: not confirmed by Americans (who supposedly killed him in Iraq)
And people who claim to be sure he's dead don't even know where or how it happened.

>>133452439
Ahhhhhhh

Ugh. Like a legion of orcs. Why the hell do people waste their time shilling.
>>133452041
Actually confirmed that Syrian Army did not air drop chems in Khan Sheyhoun, as Syria, Russia AND US were in collaboration on early morning tactical strike. Either way, there's no verifiable evidence, only the conjecture of orcs.

Gas meme killed itself with the inefficiency of the orcs

Go to FSA recruitment website and see that new recruits may also be sent to Al-Nusrs or ISIS, wherever forces are needed in fight to destabilize Syria.

>>133452469

The Syrian Monitor even fucking confirmed it. America just takes for fucking forever for that kind of shit.

>>133452586
>Actually confirmed that Syrian Army did not air drop chems in Khan Sheyhoun
confirmed by whom? No reputable source claims that, and please don't use the kremlin or assad as a source.

>>133451234
Nobody seeing this roster?? The descriptions are pure gold. I think Cyprusbro and Azerbaijanbro made them?

>>133452586
Not shilling, there's a thread on another forum where this is being discussed so i'd rather come here to understand what's been going on. I've lurked here before randomly but I never pay enough attention, and the wordpress site doesn't cover this angle.

Is there any source for confirming that the SAA didn't air drop? All I find on Google is MSM links.

>>133452675
there is no independent verification. the "syrian monitor" says they don't know where or how it happened. there is no indication that he died in mosul. everything you are claiming is baseless. if he's dead, he probably died in the russian airstrike back in may in DeZ province.

now stfu u fucking shill.

>>133452842

> if he did die, it wasn't in a capital city, it was fun buttfuck nowhere and he died in an air strike... But that cannot be proven.


Yeah, bullshit. You're just blowing up meaningless shitskin in southern Syria. We took their two capital cities. Fucking useless Mongolian cunt.

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>>133446918
>W369xHUA
>bpDgEjUE
>yH7oDRrn
Anyone else?

>>133452834
There are no sources unless you want kremlin/syrian/iranian sources. All independent groups including the UN agree that it was the Syrian government that carried out the attacks.

>>133452834
My comp Internet just went out (as u can see by ID change) so can help u out in a bit. And mb, they was more for previous folk. Always willing to help and debate with genuine folks fo sho

>>133452154

From what i've seen there isn't enough credible evidence to support the opposite argument. Syria gave up their arsenal and it was destroyed, as he said, there's only conjecture to support the case that Assad is gassing his own people.

The same tactics the rebels use against Syria are actually identical to those used by Hamas against Israel. I'm sure /sg/ doesn't like to hear me say that, but that's the reality with the crisis actors and propaganda. I see the same shit used against Syria as in Israel.

Likewise, do you have any credible source that proves the SAA used air drops to use chemical weapons?

To my knowledge, the only thing that exists is radar, unless i'm mistaken.

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>>133452028
>Muh untouchable US Navy for o-one hundred more years
>IGNORE Diesal subs successfully pop up in the middle of a carrier group
>IGNORE Russian ability to render a vessel dead by means of EW

Now THAT'S what I call terminal Burger cancer! We really will have to learn the hard way. CANT MOSSAD THE ASSAD!

>>133453101
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/syria-chemical-attack-sarin-nerve-gas-confirm-khan-sheikhoun-international-watchdog-idlib-province-a7815916.html

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>>133453023
>of course he would stay in a city about to be besieged because what state doesn't sacrifice it's leadership in war for absolutely no fucking reason :DDDDDDDDDDDD
>and i have absolutely nothing with which to back that up :DDDDDD

>>133453095

All good, and thanks.

>>133452028
The entire straight is surrounded by Iranian territory. They could mine the whole length of it without even using ships. What you don't understand is that American naval dominance is no longer capable of cutting off Eurasian countries from supplying each other. Russia and China are now capable of supplying all of their middle eastern proxies over land routes. There's nothing you can do to prevent Eurasian integration and the transition of the old world to a land trade instead of sea trade. America will be an island looking from the outside. It's navy will be useless.

>>133453194
>herp derp super weapons will stop the US fleet!!!1
Yeah okay if they're so strong and powerful then why do they let the US navy run all over them everyday?

Whatever you believe is bullshit.

>>133453242
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/syria-chemical-attack-sarin-nerve-gas-confirm-khan-sheikhoun-international-watchdog-idlib-province-a7815916.html

Ok, but this is more of an opinion piece than real evidence. The counter to this has been that the Sarin samples haven't been tested against the Syrian government's stock, or if there was, there wasn't a match. Additionally what /sg/ argues is that due to the number of other chemicals present in the sample, it alludes to it being some random Muhammad in his rebel basement cooking up Sarin, rather than something "professionally" done by a legitimate lab under some government (Syria).

With that said, when I say "show me the evidence," i'm talking about the same thing i'm asking from the /sg/ guys; show me that it wasn't an air drop and Syria and its allies being the only ones capable of such an attack (leading the then-drawn allusion to be that Syria carried out the attack). In reverse, I ask of you to show me proof of the opposite being true.

>>133453357
Remember when navy fags got detained by irán??

>>133453357
Look up millennium challenge 2002.

>>133453101
anddd i'm back on computer lets go!!
yes the truth of the issue is.. there isn't any CLEAR evidence for either side, because objective analysis doesn't exist, and based on all available context clues, it's a situation of information that doesn't support gas narrative gets suppressed and the destabilization campaign just kept rolling. I like Seymour Hersh's opinion on the matter. He gives off straight shooter vibes and has a history of high quality chemical weapons analysis. I'd recommend watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBWyuDng8rI
he explains likely scenario that occured and offers a lot of insight

>>133453673
It's not an opinion piece, its facts based off the studies made by the OPCW findings. Assad is the only one with access to Sarin and the ability to deploy it from the air. It's all pretty simple.

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ey guys just checked in
any gainz in syria?
>houthis blow up ENTIRE saudi military base/outpost
how many deded?

>>133453673
ayyyyy top lad. yep. you can't find actually truth. best you can do is go through the entire history of the affair.... and history of forces involved in affair.. and figure out what picture is being painted

>>133451530
>fat
Full of love*

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I have no problem with Assad but some of these Kremlin buttbois are just straight fucking delusional. They think Russia is way more powerful than they really are.

> b-b-but Russia has nukes!

Oh cool, so do we and we can fucking destroy the planet just as easily and as fast as you can. But we also have a massive military that is equip with the best technology and weaponry. Get fucking real, the USSR was the highet of Russian power and they fucked that up because they are stupid slav commies. Absolutely nothing to be proud of. Fucking christ. The UK and France could beat Russia in a conventional war. Let that sink in.

>>133453984
>you can't find actually truth.
So if you're not going to believe impartial OPCW findings then who are you going to believe? Anyone that fits your confirmation bias?

Kind of ridiculous.

>>133453847
Ok, then I have another question; were their findings based on on-the-ground research?

Ex: Last military campaign Israel conducted against Hamas resulted in UN reports with false death statistics. The UN reports were not conducted by UN personnel within Gaza, all data was received from Hamas and taken as truthful.

Is that the same conclusion with the OPCW findings? If it isn't, can you link the actual report and begin citing rebuttals to the claims made by /sg/.

To my knowledge, daesh/rebel groups do have access or have attempted to develop biological/chemical weapons; as a laptop has been recovered and videos are online of tests being done on animals by rebel groups.

That is /sg/'s counter. What is yours? If Assad is behind it and a report has already confirmed it, link and cite please.

>>133454066
speaking of delusional, who's been saying that it has been confirmed that americans killed baghdadi in mosul when absolutely no one anywhere on the planet besides you is making that claim?

>>133454150
>to the claims made by /sg/
/sg/ makes no claims based in fact, its all anonymous sources and russian propaganda

but I'll link you the report that the impartial OPCW made.

https://www.opcw.org/news/article/media-brief-reported-use-of-chemical-weapons-southern-idlib-syria-4-april-2017/
https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-director-general-shares-incontrovertible-laboratory-results-concluding-exposure-to-sarin/

>>133454125
it ends up appearing to fit my confirmation bias.... and obviously i'm human so i'm not immune. But I've piled up a shitload of research. CIA history of destabilizing governments. Narrative of Iraq and Libya and how the same external forces enacted destabilization campaign. History of Wahhabism as ideological tool of destabilization. gotta sherlock holmes this shit

ALSO.. I would like to believe I'm good at reading humans and you can't overlook the human aspect of the event. Watch youtube videos of those involved. Watch Assad speak for himself. Watch John Mccain speak for himself. Watch Asma Al-Assad speak for herself.

IMO, the correct picture that gets painted is that Syria is victim of geopolitical convergence of humanities collective evils :)

>>133454263
I'm still waiting to see a proof of Bin Laden's death fäm

>>133454150
meant to tag you in >>133454578

>>133454591
he's not dead, he's living in Los Angeles under a new identity.

>>133454578
>CIA has done bad things in the past which means they're doing bad things now
thats a logical fallacy
>Watch youtube videos of those involved. Watch Assad speak for himself. Watch John Mccain speak for himself. Watch Asma Al-Assad speak for herself.
These are not facts, only conjecture and are subjective to be interpreted however you want.

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Russian foreign intelligence is so good it can literally elect a US president. That should tell you everything you need to know about which power will come out on top in the region by the end of this proxy war.

all world powers were imperialist. you are the only who claim you do it in the name of democracy, humanism etc. it's pretty annoying and nobody but you believes that bullshit.

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>>133454959
noice

>>133454959
Is she/he okay????

>>133454484

Ok, so I read both link, but there's still nothing that says "we can confirm Syria used chemical weapons, by means of _________"

The language used is also akin to that of the ICA report that was issued with regards to Russian interference in the US election.

>high degree of confidence

To reference what i'm talking about, the ICA report used the same language to assume Russia was interfering based only on observation. This observation was what would essentially be dubbed a propaganda war; through usage of primarily RT on Twitter, YT, and other social media. However, quite literally nowhere in the ICA report did they say "we have emails," "we have phone records," "we have _______ substantial evidence to incriminate so-and-so."

That's what i'm actually looking for, not allusions or opinions being made in confidence simply based on observation alone.

Were chemical weapons used? Yes. By whom? The report says nothing. Nowhere does it mention either as to whether or not the samples were compared to the Syrian stock. The reports don't incriminate anyone. In fact, it even says that they're searching for evidence of a breach of the agreement.

Lastly; in both of these links the total number of visits they've made to Syria has at least been more than two dozen. In these two dozen visits, why has nothing been reported and concluded to confirm Syria is the culprit?

If there is evidence to the contrary, do link it.

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so whats the death toll at the saudi base id really like to know?
if they "blew it up" it should be pretty high

>>133454864
A human's experience... is a set of facts. that person is real and existed. It's just an extremely complex network of facts. Sometimes you just don't have the skill set to be able to organically synthesize all of these facts to help you deduce the truth. Sometimes you have to settle for shilling in a message board with the neatly divided 14 viewpoints your masters have given you. That's fine, but you won't be a part of the solution for humanity moving forward and a part of the process of improving future generations.

Now when it comes to analyzing interviews for example, their opinion of a situation is of course subjective. You aren't using their words as the foundation for analyzing the situation. You aren't using 3 CIA events as the foundation of your analysis. Selective dismissal of ingredients is tactic of the weak-willed or manipulators. Preventing people from making past the various stages needed for them to hunt for the truth themselves.

>>133454578
Thanks for your replies, i've been trying to read several links and reply to the other poster as well.

The thing i'm trying to avoid are things that borderline conspiracy. There's obviously a shred of truth to many things, i'm simply trying to come to the most logical conclusion while playing devil's advocate.

Personally it doesn't make logical sense to me to kill civilians in a war you're already winning; it would even make more sense to simply state that civilian casualties are an unavoidable part of war.

However, the people i'm engaging with want reports and facts and it seems both sides are lacking in the department of actual "reports" and such that aren't supported by in-confidence conclusions based on observations. Unfortunately, in this conflict observation is the primary (and often only) tool to be used in your/our/their defense.

>>133455386
>That's what i'm actually looking for, not allusions or opinions being made in confidence simply based on observation alone.
That's still not an opinion. It's an objective fact that sarin was used and its also an objective fact that Assad is the only one in the region with Sarin gas. This has also been proven. Assad has airpower and it has been proven that these were dropped from the air. He airstriked that location on that day at that time of the attack.

How can you not put the pieces together? It was good enough evidence for Trump, it should be good enough evidence for you.

>>133455592
>A human's experience... is a set of facts.
No an interpretational experience is subjective to the chemicals in your brain and based preconceptions. It is most certainly not a fact. Sounds like you're trying to make an argument for mysticism and bias as a form of factual empirical evidence.

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>>133455655
>It was good enough evidence for Trump, it should be good enough evidence for you.
>Trump is held up as a model of intellectual honesty and analytical, critical thinking

>>133455655
>trump believed it so you should to
appeal to authority falacy commonly debunked
face it no one buys americas shit anymore

>>133455655
>its also an objective fact that Assad is the only one in the region with Sarin gas
false
>Assad has airpower
true
>it has been proven that these were dropped from the air.
implying weapons were source of chemicals instead of impact location or introduced by party on ground. you are extremely incorrect by claiming proven
>He airstriked that location on that day
true
>It was good enough evidence for Trump, it should be good enough evidence for you.
well then

>>133455830
>>133455980
Trump has never shown a reason for me to distrust him, and until that time comes I'll trust him.

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What does /sg/ think of US President Donald Trump?

>>133456004
dude...
if you truly trust another human being(someone who controls the lives of millions people no less) without thinking about questioning their actions or considering they may be in the wrong that shows a clear lack of critical thinking

>>133455991
>>its also an objective fact that Assad is the only one in the region with Sarin gas
>false
Really? who else in the Syrian civil war has sarin? Only Assad had it in syria according to the UN when United Nations Security Council Resolution 2118 was adopted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_2118

>>133455744
lollllll. I'm sorry that you can't compile them yourself. What I mean, to make it more clear, is that person's eyebrows raising when saying a certain phrase. That is a piece of data and there's a shitload more where that came from when analyzing someone.
Your argument can be applied to the same thing you're defending. the person running the sarin test could have been deceived by their own senses when filling out the final report hahah

>>133453095

If you can refer back to this >>133452834

Since >>133455655

Is getting back around to what I originally posted about regarding the supposed air drops.

Getting back to your post; it is observation and allusions being drawn to point fingers. Both links you provided me (yes, I actually read both of them) do not state anywhere that Assad still has chemical weapons. They've made several visits to Syria, even comprising of locations where weapons were stored, and so far nowhere in their reports has it been stated that Syria has violated the agreement.

So again, where is the incriminating evidence that proves Assad did it? Also can you please link to something regarding the air drops (i'd do it myself but i'd rather allow you to provide your own sources that would be akin to someone i'd disagree with and would be supplied with their likely similar source).

Many times /sg/ has claimed that the impacts do not align with that of a real strike, the aftermath. It was also claimed by Assad himself that there was no military operations in the area by the SAA. The only saving grace/counter to this was the US radar and the supposition that the only way to deliver a chemical weapon strike is by air.

>>133456181
>I'm sorry that you can't compile them yourself.
What does that even mean?
>is that person's eyebrows raising when saying a certain phrase.
Not always, this is based on your own personal experiences and not an objective fact. No body language expert will claim that interpretations of body language can be considered fact. They're interpretations and nothing more than that.
>data
subjective experiences are not data, stop trying to make it sound better than it is

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im never going to get an answer am i?
how many ded at the damn saudi base?

>>133456329
the only reason you have to reduce it's importance is because you can't control it

>>133456050
crude, goofy-looking, ignorant, lacking in style, sounds like an idiot- basically americanism in the flesh

>>133456400
Ask tomorrow
The Argentinian houthi-fanboy is not here for the moment

>>133456405
>the only reason you have to reduce it's importance is because you can't control it
No, its not empirical evidence as there is no scientifc method being applied by your observations and subjective emotional experiences.

Just saying "dude its like so totally complex that you cant understand it" doesnt make it a fact, it makes it an unknown which is the opposite of a fact.

>>133456170

So then, question. Would a comparison to the Syrian stock be conducted to confirm it's Assad's? As I stated once before, a laptop was recovered on the topic of biological weapons development by a terror group in Syria. Similarly, there are videos of chemical/biological weapons being tested on animals by terror groups.

What's to say the Sarin isn't the Syrian government's?

/sg/'s analysis of the data was that the Sarin is not the same as both samples recovered contained other trace chemicals different from each attack(s).

>>133456050
A dead meme

>>133454066
China and Russia have more than enough of a geopolitical advantage in the Middle Eastern theater to make up for that.

>>133456621
kay i guess
if they full on "blew it up" its going to be pretty high regardless so whatever

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>>133456721
>Would a comparison to the Syrian stock be conducted to confirm it's Assad's?
Honestly I don't think there's a way of comparing sarin samples unless you have the original container in hand. Once its released into an environment or a human body it becomes contaminated.

>>133456707
there's no scientific method being applied because it's too complex. The idea that a doctors' note saying "muhh Sarin" has more weight than compiling 8 hours of personal testimony is a convenient lie. One can be controlled, one can't

>>133457131
A convenient lie of humanity. not Syrian conflict. mostly out of difficulty and not malice

>>133456721
searching for some stuff rn

>>133457044
Can sunnis and shias get along???

>>133457416
really only when its a strict secularist system like bathism overwise it tends to devolve into violence
then of course there are places like lebanon where they "can" get along cuz no single religious group can form an outright majority

>>133457131
>>133457182
>there's no scientific method being applied because it's too complex.
Then it's not provable and is merely conjecture. It's like saying psychic mind reading is so complicated that you cant apply the scientific method but it's still a fact that it exists.

If it cannot be proven with the scientific method then it is not a fact, is conjecture or pseudo science. It's not even admissible in a court of law. So unless you plan on redefining the english language to fit your personal pseudo-science you're going to have to admit that it's not fact based because it cant be measured, quantified with any scientific method and no court can use it as evidence.

It's simply conjecture and assumptions based on personal experience and bias, nothing more.

>>133457117
So essentially, there's no actual way to confirm it belongs to Syria. Unless the reports update with evidence showing Assad has chemical weapons, this will literally forever be a tug of war game between those believing Assad is gassing his own people and those believing it's a false flag.

If the OPCW has taken numerous visits to Syria (and obviously going to be more), you would be thinking more would become of this many visits.

Something i'm displeased with is the fact the investigation is not public, no real raw data is publicly available to us as of late.

Until that happens, I don't personally see how you can make any concrete conclusions when you do have efforts (and some seemingly successful to whatever degree) made by opposition forces to develop biological/chemical weapons, this dynamic doesn't swing favor to be one-sided.

Anyways, i'm heading to bed, work in the morning. I'll be posting here more frequently now.

Thanks for the chat and i'll check this thread on my phone tomorrow to check replies.

>>133457231
Thanks for the efforts. I'll be around tomorrow.

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>>133456050
go back to your containment thread.

This is hilarious. (((CFR))) has just been slayed.
>"Do you actually think that if we depose Iran kurds will be able to run the country?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpJZh92hsaY

>>133457692
http://warincontext.org/2013/12/11/how-easy-is-it-to-make-sarin/

This is an interesting read for you, it simply had to come from a state actor, and the only one using sarin in the country was Assad. The rebel groups or ISIS simply did not have the capibility to manufacture something like Sarin. Maybe chlorine or mustard gas, yes. But Sarin? No.

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>>133457751
this one is closer to reality

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>>133457692
you also can't take OPCW at face value. doesn't seem to be many organizations left to trust ha.
they got samples of two dead birds, goat and soil from the area 2.5 weeks AFTER the incident
>2.5 weeks

>>133457724
http://bd8.com/syria/ks/sarin_hoax/
ahh finally. this is prob closest you can get

>>133458137
you got something right, spencer shills are mossad

Morning, is the internet blackout finished yet?

>>133459039
yes, but the damn sharks will try to fuck up some cables again

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>>133459072
(((Sharks)))

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>>133458137

Anyone have the armour hersh article about the gas attack and trumps reaction?

>>133458137
>/sg/ with a saudi flag
This just proves /ptg/ doesn't understand anything about these threads

>>133458065
is this serious? will go after the battle above in a moment. but this is pile of rubbish
your article says
>estimates that the August attack would have required one ton of sarin
>ONE TON OF SARIN. and the dude saying this is pretty obvious anti-assad shill. already saw his twitter. demon dik lover
just to clarify... it doesn't take a lot to a lot of damage :)
but then says that it also wouldn't be possible because
>precursors to creating sarin are tightly controlled substances
surely why this means nothing doesn't need to be pointed out. those are two main points... what a brilliant article haaaa
>>133457672
yes but you're reducing it's value. THAT's the problem. Not whether its validated by scientific commnunity or not. Just because science is too narrow minded and/or not adept enough to figure it out/ devise all of the necessary structures that would go into it, DOES NOT mean it's inferior. even from a logical perspective, not paying attention what the actors in a situation say and do OVER THE COURSE OF A DECADE and trying to dismiss it is just shocking. wouldn't let you anywhere near real life situations where the ability to analyze these things come into play. aka if we go fishin on the lake you'd accidentally kill us

>>133458065
Who says it wasn't stolen from warehouses?

>>133459774
>Just because science is too narrow minded
Our entire way of life is based on the scientific method and empirical evidence. Try landing on the moon with pseudo science and superstitions. You're claiming that body language is a fact, it is not a fact. It is not accepted in court and you're casting aspersions based on body language of people you don't even personally know. If a court cannot accept body language EXPERTS how on earth can someone who admitted to not being an expert have the balls to claim that body language is a fact?

It's not a fact by any definition of the word and you're incredibly foolish for basing your opinions on a muscle twitch or the blinking of eyes. You should anchor yourselves to truths and not self deceptions to reassure yourself of the moral high ground.

>>133459994
Because Assad had "accounted" for all of his chemical weapons after the UN resolution.

Unless he lied. :^)

>>133459774
also whether it can be applied in court of law means nothing because we are talking about the process of discerning truth outside of judiciary arena. At either rate. testimony in court is used and has a lot of power.
>>133460270
Our entire way of life is based on the scientific method and empirical evidence.
HAHAAH. nooooooo nooooo. the scientific method and empirical evidence are constructs made by humans to provide us with a way to analyze life. they are tools

>>133460374
>Our entire way of life is based on the scientific method and empirical evidence.
BAH. not my words ^^^^ hah

>>133455422
>>133455422
>>133455422
NEW THREAD
>>133455422
>>133455422
>>133455422

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>>133454066
>saudi Arabia
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

>>133460413
wat

>>133460374
Oh I know there are plenty of superstitious retards like you that anchor yourself to lies and make believe. It doesn't mean that those lies and superstitions gave you anything that you enjoy today including phoneposting plentiful food in the grocery store and being an attention whoring tripfag that believes body language is a scientific fact in determining peoples intention.

>>133450190

Back in 2000 there wasn't a presidential election, just a referendum to confirm the president for another 7 years.
It's like Italy, except we can't have a referendum to confirm or reject our president.

>>133460576
>Our entire way of life is based on the scientific method and empirical evidence.
you're just gonna try and pretend like you didn't say that huh? hahaha

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>>133459072

>>133460795
By "Our" I meant rational thinking productive people who advance society through technological and philosophical progress. Pseudo-science has done nothing to advance our society, though maybe you should go buy some Alex Jones products, I hear they work great. :^)

>>133460800
>>133459072
Zionist sharks strike again

>>133460576
see
>>133460795
and also see
>>133460374

Now let's get to the core of our side-issue, because the real issue is that you're shilling. BUT on the topic of how you perceive existence I'd like to help you out
see, you say >>133460956
but the problem is you have the 'a priori' that reason is the foundation of human existence
from a logical standpoint that doesn't even make sense because you're saying that the foundation of life are the analytical constructs created by mankind to analyze it.
and to speed up the process... the foundation of our existence is God
don't worry, science will get you there soon enough. as if there aren't enough context clues already there for you

i'm also off to bed. night sg sorry for bunking up the bread

>>133460413
just saved all the posted pages for later reading
i dont agree with the political points the author tries to make but it looks pretty cool and i like dystopian stuff like this

but still fuck you for shitting up the thread

ded

no new bread? this is getting stale, also fun to see another leb anon here.

>>133463677
Real RIP hours
When this gets 300 and page 10 everybody will abandon and create a new thread in the morning (burger time).

>>133452028
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2188791/Russian-attack-submarine-slipped-past-US-Navy-patrolled-Gulf-Mexico-weeks-undetected.html

>>133463677
It's only at 258, calm your tits

>>133464110
i just woke up, sabaho

>>133463885
not defending the amerifag but
>a conservative news site, quoted anonymous military sources as saying the sub was in the gulf for a month.
this smells like a false flag, to justify militarization tbqh

>>133460515
I find houthis really funny cuz its one of the biggest insults here
Calling someone a houthi is pretty much one of the worst insults you can do

Could we get reddit off of here through that parliament? Or is it only tripfaggotry

>>133464748
I'm not even sure if it's just a reddit problem anymore, I think it might be an American problem, burgersharts being extremely ignorant and retarded about the outside world.

>>133464208
Good morning to you too m8.
The bread is always slow right now, Euros are almost through with their mornings, Middle Easterners like you are just chilling and waking up late apparently, burgers are sleeping off last night's dinner, only to wake up and stuff their faces again, and Russians are sitting quietly by themselves, contemplating life.

>And there is one Mexican that no one wants to talk to because he's so salty

>>133464958
I really think a deal can be worked out and /pol/ can be made much better

>>133464748
>/pol/ parliament
Pls stop
Even last time that just devolved into memes and namefags just clocking about

>>133465099
You guys don't have kettles ?

>>133448725
>the only people affected by the curse are his own people who have died by the hundreds of thousands because of his inability to relinquish power

>he should stop being so selfish and let us decide who should run his country into the ground

'k

>>133465246
So it cant be a response to the influx of reddit cancer

>>133465177
>/pol/
>Getting better
No way in hell, it's circling the drain right now, there's no way it'll get better. I don't even browse regular /pol/ anymore, I just look at the cancer from the catalog from time to time.
Kurwa is right, most of it is a burger related problem. /pol/ is the cool place to be right now, and the retards heard about it and started flooding in, obviously the election had a lot to do with that.

>>133465308
Jej.
What's up Sri Lankanon, how are things on your side of the world?

>>133465454
Blame trump and muh maymay majic tbqh
>pol is the cool place to be
>a Vietnamese wall painting site is now cool
Truly a death of a empire

>>133465376
Well once that /pol/ Parliament is in place they'll have veto powers, they'll be able to set global rules, and I wouldn't be surprised if they don't go ahead and build a wall to keep the newfags out.
>Seriously

>>133465575
It's pretty fucking hot here
Gonna vacation in Canada soon, kinda excited,

>>133465743
>Imply reddit won't take over parliament
They do outnumber us quite a bit

>>133465692
Pretty much this. Plebbit came into play quite a bit as well I would assume, this place compared to plebbit is "edgier" and exciting for them.

>>133465860
None of my parliament post was serious phåm

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Graveyard shift is boring without all the shitposters

>>133465755
You will feel at home there

>>133464224
you might be right, however others have reported it, plenty of coverage on the net.

I knew a guy from the British navy, who was on one of the ships designed to truck Russian submarines. And he said that the Americans have no real capability to truck Russian subs and want to keep the Brit's in NATO for that reason. Apparently the Russians been doing this for a while and the Americans can't do shit

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>>133466343
>graveyard shift
>11:09:10

>>133466543
>And he said that the Americans have no real capability to truck Russian subs and want to keep the Brit's in NATO for that reason. Apparently the Russians been doing this for a while and the Americans can't do shit
If true it means that russian hackers are based

>>133466543
Tbh even ground troops are trash

https://www.armytimes.com/articles/this-woman-will-be-the-first-to-join-the-armys-elite-75th-ranger-regiment

The only things that make IS armu powerful are money, lack of media repercussions and technology

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>>133466492
>muh degeneracy
Take that nonsense else where laddo
/sg/ is fully supports SAAnime

>SAA Tiger Forces Start Advance from its Sites in South Raqqa into The Area to Sokhneh in a New Task

>>133466729
A bunch chechens beasts would rape her

>>133467094
>/Sg/ fully supports SAAnime

Do you realize you are an inch away from being exactly the same level as awoo posters?

>>133466729
>women
>in special forces
Lel
How can they go on long campaings without a constant supply of tampons and other shit

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>>133467237
>Comparing SAAnime to AWOO posting
Pls leave

>>133465743

>Implying anything run by tripfags won't bring more reddit in

I seriously want to see statistics on how much tripfagging and namefagging have increased since the election reddit influx.

>>133467373

Technically similar, just better usage. /sg/ keeps them limited, in /ptg/ literally half the fucking thread is awoo spam. The few times I've tried lurking /ptg/ I couldn't make sense of anything because 7/10 posts were zero substance and were just spam, usually of awoo or some other terrible meme.

BAKING FRESH SOON

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>>133467373
Give me one single, ooooone single difference between awoo posters and SAAnime posters

>Protip: you cant

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>>133457044
Iran+Iraq=Double Aryan
+K*rdistan=Triple Aryan!
+Armenistan=Quadruple Aryan!!
+Afghanistan=Quintuple Aryan!!!
+Pakistan=Sextuple Aryan!!!!
+India= ARYAN LEVELS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN REACHED BEFORE!!!!!
+Europe= *Incomprehensible*

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>>133452041
U still on here?