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Tell me everything that's wrong with vaccines

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Is they vaccine goods
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Vaccines confer immunological memory through their production of memory cells (specialized B and T cells) that are produced following strong stimulation of the adaptive immune system. When the same or closely related agent is encountered again, memory cells will recognize the same antigens that were present in the vaccine, and initiate an immune response.

>The MMR vaccine and autism: Sensation, refutation, retraction, and fraud
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3136032/
This is a very short piece on initial and unproven claim by Andrew Wakefield and colleagues that the MMR vaccine was linked to autism.
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>>133411484
So there isn't any real solid evidence that they cause autism
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>>133412809
No you fucking dumbass. Imagine all the research from the past 2 decades trying to undo what that fucktard did. There has been no correlation at all. Here's a list of studies that even come with a summary and author conclusion for dipshits.
http://vaccine-safety-training.org/vaccine-components.html
Here is a list of the typical components of a vaccine from the WHO.
http://vaccine-safety-training.org/vaccine-components.html

No vaccines are not 100% safe or effective. But, they are heavily regulated and scrutinized and there is a database dedicated to recording all side effects from things as simple as redness and swelling to death.
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>>133410500
Herd immunity is junk science.
http://business.financialpost.com/opinion/junk-science-week-vaccinating-the-herd/wcm/26f8fc5e-74df-401f-bd3e-63c5b101491b

There's no evidence that justifies the massive increase in the vaccine schedule.

The reduction in the spread of infectious diseases was well in progress long before vaccines became popular (soap and plumbing).
https://i.imgur.com/uxggrWn.png

The effectiveness of vaccines in general is extremely dubious.
http://naturalnews.com/2017-01-08-doctors-agree-with-study-that-concludes-unvaccinated-children-are-healthier-than-vaccinated-children.html

There's a correlation between the increase in vaccines and autism and cancer rate increases.

On the inserts of these vaccines they include warnings that vaccines can give you all kinds of diseases and side effects, including autism and death
https://i.imgur.com/HrC6T1K.jpg

The pharma companies and corrupt regulators literally do not even study the effectiveness of vaccines.

There's been numerous insider whistleblowers who have leaked that they know vaccines cause all kinds of problems and are ineffective, but it's been covered up.

Pharma companies are not required to perform long term double blind human trials.

It gets worse.

The military can deliver weaponized behavior modifying genetically modified viruses via vaccines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmOuV-6NRWQ

There's a long history of using vaccines as cover for injecting people with viruses.
http://www.naturalnews.com/045267_Mary_Tocco_vaccines_side_effects.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/041345_CDC_polio_vaccine_SV40.htm

Elites receive special versions of the vaccines than the general public.
https://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1932366,00.html

TL;DR elites are pushing virus laden vaccines that will modify our behavior, give us diseases, or kill us at their whim.

Makes sense that vaccines is the most shilled topic online.

Thankfully Trump is investigating the vaccine crimes.
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>>133415465
Let's archive it

>http://naturalnews com/2017-01-08-doctors-agree-with-study-that-concludes-unvaccinated-children-are-healthier-than-vaccinated-children.html
https://archive.is/cqy9z
>https://youtube com/watch?v=ZmOuV-6NRWQ
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=ZmOuV-6NRWQ
>http://naturalnews com/045267_Mary_Tocco_vaccines_side_effects.html
https://archive.is/pfemf
>http://naturalnews com/041345_CDC_polio_vaccine_SV40.htm
https://archive.is/dteag
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>>133415538
Thanks archive bot.
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>>133414562
I get it now
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>>133415465
It's depressing that this shit is never mentioned to us, tip top brainwashing shit
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This probably why I'm autistic
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>>133415465
>http://business.financialpost.com/opinion/junk-science-week-vaccinating-the-herd/wcm/26f8fc5e-74df-401f-bd3e-63c5b101491b
>(((Solomon)))
>financial post
First of all what your jewish friend fails to understand is that herd immunity isn't about eradicating a disease, it's about greatly reducing the potential for an epidemic to occur. Herd immunity is about breaking the chain of infection and it provides protection to those who are incapable of being vaccinated due to complicating health issues. Herd immunity =/= 100% protection.

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The reduction in the spread of infectious diseases was well in progress long before vaccines became popular (soap and plumbing).
Your graphs are looking at deaths. I don't know the sources of those but regardless as treatment becomes more advanced you would of course expect to see less deaths. Search for CASES of X instead. Here's a WHO article on that
http://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/initiative/detection/immunization_misconceptions/en/index1.html

Autism has already been debunked.

http://naturalnews
I'm not even going to open those links
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>>133417979
I was about to post this, the financial post article is bogus and most the other sources he cites are imigur links.
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>>133417979
Why not address the quotes from public safety officials and vaccine scientists who say that it takes 99% vaccination rates for so-called "herd immunity" to kick in?

Think about that. You need basically full vaccination to get any benefit from the so-called "herd immunity".
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>>133418788
Because it doesn't you retarded fucking leaf. I already said herd immunity is about breaking the chain of infection. It reduces the probability of infection spreading. Read up probabilities. It's not some guaranteed preventative measure. Go ahead and find me a quote of some "expert" though
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Simpleton's guide:

>Basics
Go look that biology shit from school up again. There are bacteria and viruses. In general the first just reproduce in your body and produce toxins. The latter reproduce in your cells and mess will all kind of cell related stuff.

>Immunology
So our body can defend against disease. In case of bacteria they are simply eaten alive. In case of viruses, since they are too small to be eaten, we need to go through paperwork, identify them, produce antibodies, that act like handcuffs floating in your blood and inactivating viruses, lumping them together and preventing them from doing shit until the virus-clot is eaten or pissed out.

>The general idea of vaccines
The general idea is, that if you know how to fend of a dog you will be able to fend of a wolve. This does indeed work. Most of the time at least. Sometimes the idea is to give you dog-viruses and let the body fight them. Then it remembers the fight and can use that knowledge with wolves. Sometimes though we used stuffed wolves, that are already dead (virus hulls for example) so our body can learn with practice dummies. In case of toxins, produced by bacteria, we get a shot of cooked toxin, like eating snakes to get immune to snake bites. This works, because the body defends against molecules/toxins the same way he does against viruses, with antibodies.

>Why am I telling you this basci bullshit?
Because autism hysteria is bullshit. Fear of aluminium and retarded kids is also bullshit. The sole reason to question, the suggestion to shoot your kid 12 vaccines in its' first year of life, are plain logical reasons.

>The contradictions
Some vaccines work as intended (if they work, which they do in some high double digit percentages) in case of the virus vaccines like the Measels vaccine. Other vaccines are bullshit and buzzwords like herd-immunity simply do not apply.
As I explained, with some diseases caused by bacteria, you are only immune against the toxin produced by the bacteria.
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>>133421130
So in case of Diphteria or Pertussis for example, you will carry and transmit the bacteria without symptoms.
In case of Tetanus it gets even more bonkers. Tetanus isn't even transmittable and with modern wound treatment, far from being deadly. And I am not even talking about Hepatitis, which your kid needs to share a needle with some junky or have unprotected sex to get it.

>But the diseases are deadly and I don't want my kid to die
Some diseases are bitches. Others are basically fanzy words for the runs or a fucking cough. Pertussis is dangerous for newborns because of breathing issues. But for a child it isn't deadly, but basically just a real pain in the ass.
Tetanus was prevalent during war and before people realized wounds need proper treatment and air (not even joking, Tetanus just dies if your wound dries with some good ol fresh air - anaerobic bacteria and stuff)
And last but not least, some diseases are bitches, but you are basically afraid of 0.00001% chances of even catching them. Diphteria does not exist unless you are living in a soviet era cellar in, well, the former soviet union.

>tldr on dying
If you can read this, chances are high you are white and live in the western world. Not a single disease we vaccinate against is deadly for a healthy child.

>So what do I do now
Use your fucking brain. If you want to vaccinate your kid, do it. If you feel like the risk is too high for you, do it. But don't cave in to stupid buzzwords and reasons like 'solidarity'. If you don't vaccinate your child and the others do, there is no goddamn reason to be afraid of your disease ridden offspring.
And if someone argues about people 'who can't be vaccinated' - who the fuck are they even talking about. If some poor bugger is born without an immune system he is basically done for anyway and should stay in a plastic bubble. Everyone else can get vaccinated the same way your child can.

>Also, Big Pharma, Money and Fear, if you are into that type of reasoning
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