hue/pol/ - squid stuck tomorrow edition

2018 will be Dória vs Marina kek

>>133402594
I'll only believe it when he is actually in jail.

>>133403525
Doria vs Bolsonaro
I'm going to vote Doria all the way

Temer will not be convicted desu.

>>133403698
>>133403525
All of them will be arrested.

>>133403827
Top kek, is that the master plan to bring back the monarchy? Arrest all the presidents that are in power until nobody wants to be one?

>>133403525
>>133403698
Doria already said he has no interest in running. Alckmin will probably be the tucano candidate.

>>133403698
that's kinda shit. I like em both, but the biggest problem I have with it is that I think it will split the votes between "far right extremist" and libertarian bros.

>>133404433
lmao and you believed it

>>133404433
Unless Alkmin begins to do better in the polls, they'll push Doria to do it. It's inevitable.

>>133404565
He'll honor the mayoral term given to him by the people of São Paulo.

Besides, Alckmin helped him in 2016, so he'll help Alckmin in 2018.

>>133404278
>is that the master plan to bring back the monarchy?
I wish

>Arrest all the presidents that are in power until nobody wants to be one?
None of them are former presidents but Lula. Marina, Dória, Bolsonaro and Ciro Gomes are just the probable names we'll see winning in the next presidential elections, for now.

>>133404825
>Alckmin helped him in 2016

m8 seriously, Dória is 10 times more popular than Alckmin, he won the city government by his own merit when he destroyed everyone else during the debates.

>>133402594
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>133403698
Doria doesn't want to run and he's a leftard and corrupt

>>133406316
Not him but the point isn't that he's more popular, everyone knows that. It's that he has repeatedly said he wouldn't run so if he backpedaled on his own word he would lose credibility. The party will probably put a lot of pressure on him to do it but If any other PSDB guy comes close to his numbers, he won't be the tucano candidate.

>>133406650
>not him
Oh, right. I forgot that /pol/ has an ID tracker.

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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW that think Dória is a right-wing candidate

He's a left-leaning centrist AT BEST. The only thing close to a right-wing candidate that we have right now is Bolsonaro, and even he is kinda centrist too.

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2nd plebicite when?

well, time to vote for PCO candidates :^)

>>133406650
he didn't categorically say he won't do it, he just diverted saying it's not in his plans, that he's focused on the mayor job, etc., but in some interviews (particularly one a few weeks ago when he was in New York) he suggests that if the situation calls for it, he'll be candidate.

>>133407100
When was the first one?

>>133406902
It depends on your political compass. I would actually agree with you that he's left leaning, in the traditional sense: he's a liberal with a progressive social leaning. But socialists have conditioned people to believe that liberal = right and lolbertarians have embraced that notion.

>>133406902
Dória has the right mentality in regards to criminals and the penal system. That's good enough for me.

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Also, threadly reminder that Temer did nothing wrong.

JAIR BOLSONARO

Lula lá
Brilha na cadeia

>>133407252
1993. Monarchists are a tiny tiny minority, it's not happening any time soon, don't take them too seriously.

My father used to work on the Presidential Guard HQ of the Army, his friends there are saying they are on standby for the night because of the news. But to be fair, they have been on standby at least once a month for the past 3 years, and have actually been used by both Dilma and Temer recently.

>>133407171
It doesn't matter. His opponents won't get off his dick because of it, and will attempt to tarnish his reputation. It could even be damaging to him in the long run. If you actually want him to be president one day, you shoudn't want him to be a candidate this time around. He's young, why not wait 5 more years?

>>133406734
gibsmedat.

>>133407252
1993

>>133407554
If PT fags and the left decided to do anything other than burn a few buses and shant their retarded slogans if Lula was properly arrested , they'd be decimated. They can't be so stupid to think a large scale revolt will do anything other than hurt them.

So sad, the empire has broken us again.... Viva Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZo6hX7_Z44

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>>133408258

>>133408258
NO VUELVEN MAS

>>133407666
>His opponents won't get off his dick because of it

and they'll get blown the fuck out regardless, "he said he didn't intend to be candidate 2 years ago" is barely an argument that anyone cares about

NF: Golpistas
Estou relaxado, sei que esse processo não passará da segunda instância

>>133408425
>>133408490
You have no country, no history to be proud of and animals in your money.... sad... so sad, fuckin middle class thinking they are the elite... poorfags

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Get the lube, commies
2018 is comming

Also Doria is against gun ownership. Other day he said cameras and drones are more efficient to bring the violence down. Guy is a fucking clown.

>>133408732
Keep dreaming man.

>>133408844
Brazilian poorfags don't understand English.

>>133408258
>muh empire
These are words heard from a latin american socialist, while he farts and babbles incoherently after another of their attempts to control the continent fails spetacularly, mostly due to their own incompetence and laziness. It is often heard after one of their failed populist governments finally collapses under the weight of its own stupidity.

>>133409187
You have to look north to see why the latin american "socialist/popular" movement is failing.
And also and even more importantly the traitors inside our own countries. Without does this couldn't be done.
Have no doubt that this right is going to fail AGAIN, killing and leaving millions more in poverty.
>>133409021
poorfags are the ones that fight popular governments against their own interests

How far is Brazil away from Venezuela?

Didn't the police force of some city quit for a bit?

>>133409888
Lmao shitty socialist policies and kleptocracy are hardly in my interest.

But like, will Lula ACTUALLLY be arrested though?

>>133410225
technically 0 far since we border each other but there's a large sea of jungle that separates the populations.

>>133409888
>You have to look north to see why the latin american "socialist/popular" movement is failing.
If you looked a little bit more inwards instead of always pissing your pants while blaming everything that goes wrong in your governments on the big evil american boogeyman, maybe socialism wouldn't be such a joke in this continent.
>killing and leaving millions more in poverty.
You mean like Chavez and Maduro did in Venezuela? You mean after pretty much the entire continent flipped to the left in a land with more than enough resources to keep itself together, yet you still manage to install the biggest crysis we've ever fucking had in a century? Your movement failed because it was run by failures, who only care about cultural-political wars but couln't run a fruitstand, let alone a country's economy. Have some pride.

>>133410225
The border between both countries is at the state of Roraima, which is basically a distant and foreign land for most of Brazil.

>Didn't the police force of some city quit for a bit?
You're talking about the police force of the state of Espirito Santo going on strike, I suppose. But actually that's not an uncommon thing, police in here are underpaid and underprepared, so they occasionally go on strikes and the cities turn into real life GTA. I was actually on one city (Fortaleza) when the police declared a strike once, it was madness, the army was running around with tanks trying to keep the criminals of the streets, who on the other hand were running wild with huge guns on the back of trucks and bikes, it was insane. Another time, in another state (Bahia), the police of the entire state entered a week-long strike. I'm on college here and my college cancelled classes for the entire week, I had to leave the state until my classes returned.

>>133409888
>poorfags are the ones that fight popular governments against their own interests
Poorfags are not even smart enough to do that. They just vote for the populist cunt who sprinkles them with the most amount of benefits, and when the conomy collapses maybe they consider changing their mind, hesitantly.

The people who vote against their own interests are the retarded overeducated middle-class champagne socialists, who follow their retarded ideology and vote for the very same people who will enslave them to sustain our idiotic idea of democratic-populism in this country, which involves putting all resources in the army and the loyalist portion of the population while the middle-class bleeds, leaves en-mass and the country slowly burns itself into the ground.

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>>133411655
You should go an read some books....

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>>133412428
You should start reading books ouside of your religious beliefs.

>jornal nacional starting half an hour earlier
Dis gonna be gud

>>133412880
>(((Globo)))
Fake news.

Jornal da Band is objectively better.

seeing Lula getting fucked is so good

>>133413092
>believing tv news
>(you)
I only watch it for the memes, m8,

>>133413590
where do you get your news from?

>>133413590
They are the less bad option for TV news.

>>133413768
Unironically on Twitter. It is updated in real time and there are always lots of people to either confirm it on the spot or to call it fake news with proofs of why it is so.

If either João Dolly or Bolsomito becomes president we are good

>>133414327
twitter is full of leftists propaganda though.

UMA BOLSONARO

I wanna get out of here and so I'm planning to go to based Chile before 2018. If the TRF confirms Moro's sentence and send Lula to jail there'll probably be a civil war here where I live.

news from Brazil

>Lula charged with corruption
>Rousseff impeached for corruption
>Temer faces corruption probe

Is this your entire country? Why is everyone putting up with this shit? How does this even work, who's making money off this? If the president is corrupt, isn't literally everything corrupt?

>>133414716
Take a month long vacation and shill in some small town in Paraná or Santa Catarina where Petistas are unheard of. If there's a far-left chimpout in the near future, they'll be purged in a matter of weeks.

>>133414956
Temer was framed though, and Dilma wasn't impeached over corruption, but for fucking our budget up.

>>133414956
>Is this your entire country?
Yes
>Why is everyone putting up with this shit?
Because people got used to it
>How does this even work, who's making money off this?
Politicians, big corporations, the usual
>If the president is corrupt, isn't literally everything corrupt?
Yes

>>133414956
Welcome to the banana republic.

>>133414673
There are a LOT of redpilled people there, lefties are becoming more and more in closed little groups.
>>133414956
Almost every president after the end of the military dictatorship was corrupt at some level, but those three were corrupt at a cartoonish level, they got caught on the biggest anti-corruption operation in the history of manking, alongside over 2000 politicians across the country (no, seriously).

>>133414956
>How does this even work, who's making money off this?
Big companies and politicians on their payroll.

>Why is everyone putting up with this shit?
Because the alternatives are dire. Optimally, we would have complete general elections and everything would be renewed, but ALL big political movements have dirt on them, they all claim innocence in the grand scheme of things and no one trusts anyone else while everyone keeps pointing fingers.

>>133402594
EEEEEEEEE LELE OOO LELE OO LLELE OO LELE OO
LULA NA CADEIA PORRAAAAA

>>133415484
>Because the alternatives are dire. Optimally, we would have complete general elections and everything would be renewed, but ALL big political movements have dirt on them, they all claim innocence in the grand scheme of things and no one trusts anyone else while everyone keeps pointing fingers.
More importantly, if they give up their mandates they lose their immunity and can be prosecuted.

Se should be speaking portuguese, pretentious pile of shit!

>>133415709
Obviously, I was just pointing out that all big political movements who would generally organize themselves in this situation are immobilized, because the parties that they are stuck with have dirt on them. You can't have a big CUT or MBL movement fighting for complete general elections because it would hurt them

>>133416062
This isn't /int/. Speaking too much in any other langauage that isn't english is actually bannable offense. Read the rules, faggot.

>>133414956
We are purging politicians because we can. Fuck them.

>>133416062
Speaking Portuguese here will get you b&.

racist pieces of shit, you arrest him coz he BLACK

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>>133417806
This caped cracker motherfucker was one of the first to denounce Lula and his party over a decade ago. Racism has a long history, sadly.

>>133414956
1889 -Worst Year Ever

>Geographic Location without Monarchist

>>133417806
Lula isn't even black

>>133418309
he mad coz he BLACK, he dont knows the TRUTH so he fightin' against his own PEOPLES

a white supremacist BLACK MAN brainwashed by white mainstream MEDIA

>>133418893
t. white supremacist

he has a BLACK family, he a BLACK MAN

>>133407344
Doria is against people owning guns. He could run next year, but I won't vote for him

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>>133402594
UMA DELÍCIA!

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>>133419021
spr white

>>133419446
He looks like a Muslim desu.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanqueamiento

Why was this stopped?

>In order to dilute/dissolve the black 'race', Brazil executed public measures to increase European immigration

You guys were doing so well ;_;

>>133419992
Getúlio Vargas was afraid of foreigners and no european wished to move here afterwards.

>>133419992
Fascism is bad for immigration, who knew!

>>133419992
30's happened, then the sexual revolution. Mass white immigration stopped around that time, and then europeans stopped breeding.

Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula Fuck Lula

tava uns 3 dias sem lavar a cabeça do pau, tava com um cheiro extremamente agradável de peixe.
me arrependo fortemente de ter lavado.

>>133419992
>Blanqueamiento
But the important question is: Did it work?

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Meanwhile, at commie book

>>133424284
Kek, leftists are like ostriches hiding their heads in the ground.

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>>133422929
It probably needs a European origin person in every couple, not 1/32 European origin father like the Cape Verdians.

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>>133424748

>>133414956
Our FBI (Policia Federal) is pretty based, they're doing god's work, uncovering TONS of shit

>>133425755
Normie-tier opinions 2bh

>>133421879
ok...

>>133424284
just remember, midia nijnja public relealed it receive founding from Soros

http://www.ilisp.org/noticias/midia-ninja-confirma-que-e-financiada-pelo-bilionario-george-soros-para-ser-midia-livre/

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Now there's only one...

PRESIDENT FIDELIX WHEN?

>>133407100
retard here, what these dark things? Ola in stadium?

>>133427865

Disgusting shit

Does Dilma have criminal charges against her?

>>133426150
I guess that's good if they're kicking everyone's ass equally if they're guilty. It would be bad if it's like FBI/CIA (24h anti-Trump anti-Russia shilling)

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>>133428547
No, not yet. She is surely being investigated though. For instance, she was using a puppet gmail account to warn her friends about police procedures against them (pic related).

>>133428975
Our chief prosecutor is Comey-tier though. He is obsessed with Temer, even signed a ridiculous pleaa deal just in order to get a tape that didn't contain conclusive evidence. He pressed charges anyways.

Can Lula be elected tho? Some say he can't, some say we will only know after the TRF judgment.

>>133427165
é sério cara, qual é a graça de bater punheta e não subir aquele cheirinho de esmegma de 3 dias? muito vacilo da minha parte

>>133429788
That's a tricky question. Ficha Limpa Act says people can't be elected only if convicted by a court of appeals (TRF).

On the other hand, STF has decided that defendants in criminal cases can't be in the presidential line of succession. If that's the case, Lula can't be elected, as he was actually convicted of a crime.

STF will probably have to decide this, should Lula try to register his campaign.

t. lawfag

>>133430170
>STF will probably have to decide this
Fuck

t. computer science fag

>>133427916

If the Venezuelan people had any self-respect, they would've hanged and quartered Maduro publicly by now. He deserves nothing but a scaphism-tier death, the bastard.

>liberalcucks seriously pushing Doria

Socially, the only good thing he has done was the way he dealt with the crackheads. He also doesn't have anywhere near the popular appeal as Bolsonaro does. Don't be like that cuck Andreazza.

>measuring how right-wing a candidate is by how much free market shit they support

Consuming too much American media does this to you.

>>133432424
Who is Andreazza?

>>133419992
White Europeans stopped wanting to come here, plus Vargas's populism made whitening not be as focused on.

It contributed to the way the South is significantly whiter, on average, than the North. On the other hand, plenty of those were scum of their society and brought with them ideas like communism and shit. It also let a lot of Jews in because they were considered "white".

>>133432504
The editor at Record (which publishes Olavo and other mainstream right-wing books). He was whining the other day that Bolsonaro was a right-wing Lula or something.

>>133432771
I find it quite ironic, Rio Grande do Sul seems to be the commiest state in Brazil.

>>133431613
you're right, this guy deserve to die

https://www.efe.com/efe/english/portada/maduro-threatens-to-take-up-arms-if-venezuela-slides-into-chaos-violence/50000260-3309797

>>133432981
I wouldn't say it's the commiest population-wise, but yes it's a central base for commies.

>>133432981
To be fair, the Genros ARE Jewish.

>>133433174
>>133433177
Yeah, of course Nordeste always vote for leftists, but it's probably because of gibsmedats. I mean, there aren't that much genuinely leftist politicians from Nordeste. Even Lula is more paulista than nordestino.

RS on the other hand seems to be left-wing central, with Prestes, Goulart, Brizola, Dilma, Genro, Maria do Rosario, etc.

>>133414716
>there'll probably be a civil war here where I live
There aren't enough people out there who at the same time support Lula and PT AND have the balls to actually take up arms and risk getting killed. Come on, most of pro-Lula people are either old commies or pothead university student degenerates. The only people that scare me, violence wise, are the ones that MST and the unions can bring to the table. But that's not really that much people.

>>133433627
People in the Northeast aren't ideological leftists. They probably care more about their church than gibs, so I expect to see Bolsonaro doing very well there (much more than anyone from the PSDB).

Now, if someone in the south does vote for the left, they are probably ideological leftists.

>>133433627
It's all the goddamn Jews we have here. Porto Alegre is a disgusting fucking city

>>133433950

Northeasterners are as conservative as it gets, specially when it comes to the smaller inner-state municipalities, since in those places the Roman Catholic influence really ingrained itself. Any kind of degeneracy is extremely reprehended in all circles of life - being a LGBTQ is considered the ultimate disgrace, for instance.

Big cities such as Salvador and Recife are an entirely different business, of course. Liberalism runs rampant but it hasn't stopped enclaves of conservatism to still maintain themselves in current times.

>>133435842
I remember in 2010, when Dilma had to backtrack on her stance on abortion in order to get those votes.

>>133433627
I have family in RS. One of my cousins was sharing some shitty video with Wagner Moura bitching about the labor reform. The other one posted some shit about hate speech regarding that crackhead that got his forehead tattooed.