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>Free market
>No welfare state
>Government exists to secure borders and uphold voluntary contracts.
>Main religion is Christianity.
>Muslims, Jews, commies, and shitskins get the helicopter.
>Immigration is only allowed from Aryans and intelligent whites.
Heil Pinochet!
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>>133400452
Is it protectionist or free trade?
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>>133400452
Sounds nice, but it isn't really national. Aryans and intelligent whites aren't nation.
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>>133400955
Culture and borders are preserved as well if that's what you mean.
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As long as you are allies with us NatSocs, okay nice
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>>133400944
The nation and it's people will be looked after first.
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>>133400944
Free Trade for luxury items only. A strong nation needs to have a strong domestic energy and food secor.
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>>133401182
I'm hoping we can join together under this movement and fix Hitler's (((socialism))) mistake.
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>>133400452
new america?
anyone wanna start it we haave natsocs and libertarians live with us too ?
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>>133400452

I'm OK with this.
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>>133401402
Under a truly free market you can practice anything you want within it.
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>>133400452
if we hold technology dear and focus on military strength and tech and the tech of the home and we make degeneracy illegal
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>>133400452
Would you like state to enforce social conservatism?
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>>133401632
yes
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>>133400452
>Main religion is Christianity
any form of christianity or a particular sect?
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>>133401182
>>133401361
This

Socialism is a joke
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>>133401361
You can have your jewy free markets, idc.
Do not attempt to control us though, we will not fall for it.
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>>133401550
Full Capitalism in itself should rapidly increase technological and military strength. As long as Christianity is enforced and the jews helicoptered, degeneracy will be stopped before it starts.
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Interesting considering Natsoc implementation was held under a capitalist system despite the nomenclature
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>>133401814
depends I guess we could allow multiple as long as the ideology's are pretty much the same
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It should just be a swatsika in the middle.
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>>133401878
don't worry Jews will be illegal in this state and we can ban jew owned corporations
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>>133401814
Chalcedonite Trinitarians
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>>133401906
True What is the flag design Op pic is too jewy
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>>133400452
>le epin helicopter ride maim
You know you could achieve the same goal with less pushback and even build goodwill if instead you incentivize voluntary emigration? they will self-helicopter if you put a moratorium on gibs and offer to pay for their ticket. Everyone wins
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>>133401906
>As long as Christianity is enforced and the jews helicoptered, degeneracy will be stopped before it starts.
Yeah because christian whites have been vastly proven to be non-degenerate at all
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>>133400452
I can get on board with this
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flag ideas?
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>>133402338
As long as the name doesnt trigger you, right?
You guys are more retarded than I ever thought
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>>133400452
I liek dis
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>>133402187
>offer to pay for their ticket.
Trump is actually offering free one-way tickets to Africa. The darkies aren't taking it though. We need guaranteed physical removal before they revolt for socialism.
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>>133402056
I'd be okay with that, pic related

>>133402313
>>133402449
You will be gassed / helicoptered, spic slime
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>>133402187
>thinking the leeches will just walk away

It's not that easy, physical removal is the only way
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>>133402313
>Yeah because christian whites have been vastly proven to be non-degenerate at all
Before the jews invaded yes.
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>>133402528
Well that wont make your made up "perfect ideology" less ridiculous m80
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>>133402539
>physical removal is the only way
Exaclty!
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>>133402590
You must be insanely stupid to believe this
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>>133402539
Second this.
Also we need to make this actually a thing should we set up a discord and decide speecifics on territory?
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Midwest is the least Jewish part of the country and has the most people of German decent. There is already the idea of "the Midwest Reich" National Capitalism could be the main ideology of this 'reich'.
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>>133402187
You have no sense of spectacle, friend.
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>>133400452
>Free market
Dropped
It's just a meme to let things like Soros come into life and have a completely unreasonable political power despite being just a dude in a democracy
a totally free market is not compatible with freedom
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>>133402932
I like it.
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>>133402539
It should be the last resort after nice guy natcap has been reasonably attempted
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>>133403087
The government's job is to prevent foreigners from screwing with our nation and market.
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>>133400452
>Heil Pinochet!
You do know he was a puppet of the international jewish bankers, right?
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>>133403249
>foreigners
Not necessairly foreigners
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>>133400452
Seems very appealing. Could you describe how you imagine the government would operate? Local elections? Based on geography/some other determinant? What departments do you see operating in this society? Or perhaps something else entirely?
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>>133403249
Yeah, what about market inefficiencies, is the govt allowed to deal with that as well? Competition law enforcement?
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>>133403110
>>133399004
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>>133400452
>capitalist
>no jews

Dat denial
Stay mad /pol/ shit. Jews are the true master race and domainte every ideology. For all your talk about Jews founding communism you forget it was the west that founded Israel. Jews are on every side of every war. Stop pretending you can fight it.
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>>133403488
I want the government to be divided into subgroups like the US government but even more so. There will not only be state governments but county governments as well and maybe something smaller than that. The smaller the government the more control the people have and the more contained the corruption.
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>>133400452
>>Free market
Hahahahhaha it will fail. Not even capitalism is a free market. Are you high?

>>No welfare state
Somalia.

>>Government exists to secure borders and uphold voluntary contracts.
Voluntarism in a maximum comfort society = Sweden. Well done.

>>Main religion is Christianity
Christianity is communal and collectivist. Just go with Satanism, there no bigger individualist than ole' Lucifer.

>>Muslims, Jews, commies, and shitskins get the helicopter.
Basically all the people who make your shit and do the less fun jobs. Enjoy clugging your own toilet.

>>Immigration is only allowed from Aryans and intelligent whites.
Intelligent whites are very few and they suck at making babies. Also intelligence skips some generations. And Aryans basically means everyone from Nigel Buttons to Michael MCTeetee Slavakovsky. Have fun holding those two groups together.

>Heil Pinochet!
Pinochet was a cuck. And kekistan is fucking cringe.
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>>133403803
Fair enough, but I'm also interested in the details like I mentioned in my post above, got any ideas fleshed out for the things I mentioned?
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>>133403621
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

This goes for (((you))) as well.
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>>133403919
As for now I'm rather flexible on most of those things but I want the government to stay out of the market for the most part.
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>>133400452
>free market, unless you're [a long list of ineligibles]
>no actual free market
>no economy
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>>133403908
>Christianity is communal and collectivist. Just go with Satanism, there no bigger individualist than ole' Lucifer.
yeah i'll have to agree with sven on that one
having a state religion is all nice and great except that people will eventually want to enforce its often communal ideals
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>>133404250
also this. Christianity is by definition globalist (religion over race) and socialist (help the poor etc)
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>>133402440
how about this but the six stars in the center are golden, to repersent an individual and their family
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>>133404166
Again, what about market inefficiencies?
Would there be a set of fundamental rights of citizens protected above free market functioning?
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i'm a libertarian faggot that doesn't understand natsoc, but I still want to be cool
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>>133400452
Hell yeah!
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>>133404380
>charity is socialism
wew
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Wasn't this America in the 60s and before? Without the part about jews and helicopters
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How do you avoid corporatism, degeneracy, obesity?
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>>133405367
depends on how you do it
helping the poor i mean
not letting people starve in the streets by giving them food is one
but then you get to the part where it's "we should give them some monthly gibs to get them on their feet"
and one uncontrolled thing leads to another
and you've got goymmunism
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>>133405575
remove [undesireable] physically
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>>133401840
i think some socialist policies can be beneficial. Healthcare like we have here in Norway for example is nice.

(It's not the same shit as Obamacare just fyi.)
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>>133401840
Of course it's only nice if it's a homogeneous white nation.
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>>133405575
>corporatism
dunno, someone more experienced should comment on this
>degeneracy
better education
>obesity
better food
not allowing them to sit on their ass all day
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>>133404204
>Poinciana Communities, located in Central Florida, is the largest planned community in the United States with 20,000 homes and more than 7,000 lot owners.

A giant homeowners association. could form in the free market and it is voluntary. not ideal but also not retarded. imagine an HOA that said no jews!
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>>133404250
>>133404380
you need to read about christ in the desert. most individualist passages in the bible
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>>133405390
It was similar, but then we lost it because we didn't helicopter the jews.
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>>133400452
>>Free market
>>No welfare state
>>Government exists to secure borders and uphold voluntary contracts.
Ok... so you want a...
>>Main religion is Christianity.
>>Muslims, Jews, commies, and shitskins get the helicopter.
>>Immigration is only allowed from Aryans and intelligent whites.
>Heil Pinochet!
Oh you're 12 years old.
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>>133405812
You mean jews? Because whites are also capable of those.

>>133405981
That means substantial government intervenience.
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>>133400452
This is some True Capitalist Radio autism. Fuck off, moron.
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>>133400452
>>133401878

So basically Fascism. National Capitalism is just National Socialism under a different label. I'm ok with this.
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>>133406240
Nope, just a 21 year old who did his research.
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>>133406113
thank you, i'll look into it
>>133406434
good point, but i just don't see how it'd work
maybe in one's early life when you're too young
but that should be left to the parents
but what if they're irresponsible
thoughts?
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>>133406434
No, it means more free market not government. Free market = competition = improvement of quality
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>>133399004
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>>133405998
I like it.
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>>133406709
Free market doesnt solve market inefficiencies that trump competition irreparably wothout govt intervention
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>>133406681
I'd say highly stimulated but not forced military service to promote brotherhood, discipline, allegiance, fitness.

>>133406709
Fast food and commercials every 5 minutes on tv are a product of the free market. As far as education I don't know, but what if different propaganda oriented schools start to arise similar to the different news channels?
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>>133407503
Oh you mean like monopolies. I assumed it was implied the government would break up those. That's how American Capitalism worked.
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>>133400452
May I propose a flag for the American part of this newly founded ideology?
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>>133407561
>highly stimulated but not forced military service to promote brotherhood, discipline, allegiance, fitness
how about 2 years of basic drills after high school for a discount on college/university(the difference is still a bit fuzzy for me)?
i remember my 50 something year old teacher telling us about how she had to get from drills to classes with here colleagues
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>>133400452

>Muslims, Jews, commies, and shitskins get the helicopter.

Why so, if I may ask?
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>>133407761
Monopolies are not the only form of altering competition.
How is a goverment capable of acting against big corporations holding dominant abusive position in the market within a free market low-taxed framework?
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>>133408142
That's pretty. Kind of hypnotizing.
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>>133408142
Flag filter.
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>>133400452
>Free market
>Still regulates the labour market
LOL
Go away you socialist scum
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>>133408451
Thanks!
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>>133408355
What are you asking for? It sounds like you're heading down a slippery road to socialism.
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>>133408607
Sounds like your free market ought to have some logical limitations from the state but your cognitive dissonance doesnt allow you to see that
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>>133400452
Now THIS is an ethos I can get behind. It's like all the greatness of ancap but with the added bonus of no shitskins!
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>>133401249
And you enforce that with communism or socialism right?
Because if you leave people to their own devices to choose their own career, they end up getting comfy office jobs instead of going into agriculture, trades, entrepreneurialism or manufacturing. Something like 80% of the US economy doesn't actually produce anything it just moves money around.
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>>133400452
bump
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>>133408142
>>133408460
>>133408571
Nice
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>>133400452
Fuck off Ghostler.

Free market capitalism isn't going to fix bronies and autism only facism will.
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>>133408145
Yea something like that, but also leave the option for simply a financial reward when you finish for if you simply wish to work in your father's firm after highschool for example.
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Fuck of kike
It's impossible to be nationalist and capitalist at the same time
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>>133408806
Its a legit question. Are you suggesting some companies are just too big or successful?
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Please happen soon
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>>133409474
sounds good to me
desu it seems like with all the stuff you can learn on the internet if you're serious then you could seriously make university a fringe thing if you need help for something or clearer explanations
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>>133402313
This, Christianity in the US is multiracialism and degeneracy, both secular universalist ends and fundamentalist baptist ends

The free market cannot end degeneracy, especially if it is the fuel for it like it is today, and actually makes the most profit off it. It would take a strong, fascist central power to force the masses into fat camps, outlaw fast/junk food, ban advertising/marketing
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>>133408936
Ikr! It also unifies the natsocs and ancaps under one movement, which is what we've needed for a while.
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>>133400452
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Now this is my shit, so sick of natsoc being the only option for ethnostate supporters/altright. Is this thread new?
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Improved your flag

Yellow should not be the main color of the flag as it conveys weakness.
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>worship a spic
>"muh shitskins get the helicopter"

topkike
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>>133410206
I've seen a few of these threads recently. Its an interesting idea. Never was comfortable with the socialism part of natsoc.
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>>133405998
>Poinciana Communities

Amazing, a cultureless suburbia of tacky mcmansions and fat retired snowbird bankers. Truly a paragon society of the west
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>>133410083
so which religion/spirituality is the most lacking in degeneracy
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>>133410488
Yeah pretty much, I like everything about what people like Spencer want except the socialism.
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>>133410603
Lets be fair. A retirement community in central Florida will be overflowing with Jewish culture.
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Okay OP, tell me how your ideology would prevent the degeneracy in this picture from ever occuring.

With NatSocs, we could enforce cultural rules to ensure artisinal design of communities, preventing strip malls. We could send people to fat camps and indoctrinate youth to a fascist aesthetic, preventing obesity, we could outlaw fast food and estrogen, removing the sugar-coffee drinks.

These all take a strong government and public education to do.

>>133407561
>Fast food and commercials every 5 minutes on tv are a product of the free market. As far as education I don't know, but what if different propaganda oriented schools start to arise similar to the different news channels?
this
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>>133404490
great freaking idea!
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>>133403087
It's NATIONAL capitalism, ie. Capitalism/free market within the borders only, across the borders are entirely different rules with tariffs restrictions and regulations.
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>>133400452
>NatSocs use the Swastika as a symbol of the German people
>NatCaps use the almighty dollar like the filthy money-worshippers they are

Shove it and your Mammon up your arse
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>>133411486
gas chambers
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>>133410810
Any kind of ethnic religion, like say Hellenic Paganism, as it retains a geographical fixation on an ethnic urheimat and a "blood and soil" approach to spirituality

If someone in the US needs Christianity though I'd say.. just get some redpilled Orthodox immigrants to guide you.


>>133411285
The American 1% is now 46% Jewish, capitalism in the US is run by Jews or people who have Jews as best friends basically.
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>>133401124
What culture would that be?
"Aryan" isnt a culture, neither is "white"
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>>133410397
An old and successful Hungarian empire begs to differ.
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>>133412254
Christian culture, much like old Capitalist America.
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>>133411486
also all Jewish company's would be banned and all companies who make an example by dejewing and moving HQ inside our territory will have their taxes reduced
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>>133411912
And who would enforce that, who would manage the costs and transportation of gassing 30-60% of the population for morbid degeneracy?

McDonalds and Walmart wouldn't, as they love their main income base and don't want to spend more than their profits unless it gives them more profits
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>>133411698
you're just jelly you can't make dollary doos
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>>133412535
such companies would not be allowed in the state
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>>133412472
>Christian is a monolithic culture
Yep, Italians live, dress, and act identically to Russians since both are Christians.
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>>133412254
OP needs to work on his presentation but the idea of an ethnostate with free market capitalism inside its own borders only with no welfare etc has merit I think.
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>>133406578
>Did his research
>We can just magic away all the undesirables, nobody will oppose widespread systematic genocide in the western world.
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>>133412262
>hungarian
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>>133412611
I am pro-capitalism and pro-profit but I am never for putting wealth above the nation.
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>>133412535
>gassing
silly anon, just don't feed them
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>>133412952
You could achieve both.
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>>133412472
lol
>>133410083
>>133410083

>>133412521
Well America proves that jewing and degeneracy makes huge profits and success. If unhealthy behavior is an untapped market, companies jump in to make a buck

>their taxes reduced

Not really that free of a market then
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>>133412109
Yes attacking the one percent antisemitism now as the meme goes. I think its worth remembering though that free market capitalism hasn't existed in this country in over a century. I dont think anyone looks at whats going on in the US today and thinks that its a good thing to copy.
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>>133413047
No. No, you literally couldn't. Read what I put.
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>>133413097
>Not really that free of a market then
>Expecting people with a swastika flag to understand economics
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>>133413097
Tbh I just don't want free college, healthcare, welfare etc, don't mind playing with taxes a bit to reduce degeneracy.
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>>133413141
It is sad that people point to modern America and go 'see, capitalism doesn't work'. Well now annoying than sad.
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>>133412535
>30-60% of the population
You do realize the plan is to have secure borders right? Not import the whole population in jews.
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>>133413236
Well obviously you could be MORE rich if you sold out your country for shekels, I just meant you can still be rich and put the country first.
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>>133412927
I'm not joking. It's an old Hungarian flag from centuries ago.
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>>133408944
Well if you have protectionism then the nation will have to have a strong domestic energy and food sector by necessity, otherwise the people won't eat or have electricity.
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>>133413606
>that flag
>anything but austria
dude
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>>133401632
no fuck off
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>>133413975
You realize they were the same empire throughout a lot of history?
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>>133414378
which hungary wasn't a fan of
until austria hungary was declared, it was the austrian empire
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>>133411486
There'd be no welfare. These people would have to pay their own medical bills, thus facing the consequences of their own lifestyle.

This would be the results of the current interpretation of this ideology. As it is young, I'd say that we make some small changes.
This ideology is a mixture of social and economic doctrines. The social being nationalism, and the economic being laissez-faire. The situation depicted in your picture could be sanctioned by applying the social, that is nationalistic, doctrines. Let's say that the parents have been found guilty in reducing their children's racial fitness, as well as their own. Thus they're sanctioned in one way or another, ã la Chinese internet-addict camps or whatever? The nationalistic doctrine could also be use to justify a ban on fast food and whatnot, of course, as it leads to racial unfitness, thus rotting the nation from within its core.

My guess is that this ideology would apply social doctrines to promote well being and fitness in its population, and lasseiz-faire for the very same reason. When the market offers something that contradicts the social doctrines, it's sanctioned one way or another. The nation promotes well being through the free market, sort of, I guess.
That's at least what I guess OP had in mind.
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>>133414378
Technically the gypsy's right due to the bureaucratic labyrinth that was the Hapsburg empire. The yellow and black were holy roman empire colors and the Hungarians were just one subjugated vassal. Also Romanians will never miss a chance to shit on Hungarians and vice versa.
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>>133400452
I agree, but with one exception. Modern Christian values should be enforced, but the state itself should be secular.
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>>133409357
bronies dont hurt anyone so they dont need to be fixed
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>>133410397
the dollar sign and green color look too jewey, it looks like you are too focused on money you shekel grubbing bankers
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>>133414972

True, but they are weird. I don't want weird people near my property, it might lower it's value.
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>>133414883
>Also Romanians will never miss a chance to shit on Hungarians and vice versa.
eh
just most of the time
>>133414972
liking a children's show is alright
drawing porn of what amounts to cartoon horses is disgusting no matter how you look at it
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>fascist state
no thanks
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>>133414726
Something like that. You just have to be very careful when interfering with the free market because regulation rarely ends well.
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>>133415079
Like capitalist plutocrats in general.
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>>133415096
>I don't want weird people near my property,

you are free to do so.

>>133415109
>drawing porn of what amounts to cartoon horses is disgusting

does a human get hut by hit? No? you would have to accept it! What is disgusting and whta not varies from human to human and is not objective.
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>>133415109
adults turn everything into a fetish everything that they involve in their sphere. Not every adult, but an adult in every realm that is acceptable for them to be in (and sometimes unacceptable) Promoting the acceptance of this children show for adults, only increases the amount of pebbles you toss into the pond for the fetish.

Gas children cartoon watchers.
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>>133401878
>>133402056
>>133401361
>/leftypol/ plays pretend to convince dumb gentiles that socialism isn't socialism because if it isn't Marxist bullshit

That quote you posted proves my point. Capitalists and communists alike shall hang from lamp posts. Especially YOU communists.
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>>133415307
Not sure bans on things are that good of an idea. You should be free to be a fat ass if you want to be so long as you're not drain on the state through welfare or some healthcare subsidy. Personal responsibility is going to be more important here than in the fashy state where the government regulates everything you can do apparently.
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>>133415789
Also
>fascism
>capitalist
Mussolini was a guild syndicate. The "corporation" means different than you think /leftyfaggot/.
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>>133415831
Yeah, interfering in the market is almost never good. Just let the weak die off.
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>>133413507
I was referring to the degeneracy % here, which the US has the highest in the west.

If you add up the obese, people with no geography knowledge, uncultured rednecks, circumcision supporters, minorities, neocons, creationists, racemixers, bronies and on and on you're going to get a very high chunk of the population
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>>133415563
that's one way to see it
i respectfully disagree
>>133415715
that's a little too extreme for me
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>>133415968
Interventionalism =/= Free market
Dumb /leftypol/ cunt.
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>>133416169
I'm against interfering in the free market. Learn to read.
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>>133415979
We could start with a select population and only let non-degenerates immigrate. If somehow some sneak in they get the helicopter.
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>>133400452
>Welfare state
I don't understand this NaCap nonsense. Is this supposed to be NatSoc for losers who hate child benefits, retired folks and sick people?

Is this the NatSoc for those who want their children enslaved in student debt before they are even able to start making money?
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>>133400452
So basically paleoconservatism
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>>133416943
>inb4 shill comes in and claims national socialism was capitalist even though capitalists were shot or exiled
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>>133416943
Found another butthurt (((socialist)))
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>>133415563
>What is disgusting and whta not varies from human to human and is not objective.
>There are an infinite number of ways to interpret everything
>flag
Listen here millennial, you need to sort yourself out.
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Fill me in. I had no idea so many people actually thought like you guys. Do you all have something in common perhaps? Mothers beating you up, maybe? Hidden homosexuality? Cummon, there has to be something other than shear stupidity that makes so many people actually think that the nazis will return and make a better world. Right?
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>>133416943
Socialised healthcare and college are inefficient, they cost too much and bloat the government. Welfare causes dependency causing permanently poor people and slums. If not for these issues I really wouldn't care about paying for them in an ethnostate but they just don't work.
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>>133417367
Wrong general >>133381482
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I love how this can double as a symbol for Objectivism.
>"We will take as our symbol the morality of the dollar"
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>>133417367
>there has to be something other than shear stupidity that makes so many people actually think that the nazis will return and make a better world. Right?
There is. We've studied historical trends and economics and listen to that over feelings. Believing in truth over emotion is called taking the redpill.
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>>133417367
The truth convinces like nothing else.
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>>133417735
Which is why I proposed this >>133408142
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>>133401814
Anyone except jesuits and the pope is not welcome since he is basically a crypto jew.
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>>133400452
This is definitely my political ideology, however with a monarchy.

ϟ £ National Capitalist Monarchy £ ϟ
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For all you nutcases. A little history. The national socialist party definitely was a socialist party. Not just by name, but by action. The Nazis were ALL about taking from the people they didn't like and giving it to the white people. redistribution of wealth is as socialist as it gets, bub. Good luck with that.
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>>133418335
jesuits i wont comment on since i dont know enough but isn't the pope the central pillar of the catholic church?
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>>133404490
shit tier, stars are jewry
>>133406562
like the eagle
>>133408142
would swear allegiance
>>133409931
no stars
>>133410397
looks like a new crypto coin, will not invest
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>>133418722
He is, but if I was a catholic and he called for a crusade, I wouldnt join. He sucks to much jew dick.
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>>133400452
This is literally the goat political ideology, once you accept this into your life you become unstoppable, glad /pol/ is finally talking about it
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>>133402528

Corporatism doesn't mean what you think it means. Corporatism is fascism. Corporatism is cooperative hierarchical organization of corporate, union, and other economic interests under the state. Corporate meaning corpus/body in this case.

You're thinking of what libertarians refer to as "crony capitalism."
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>>133408142
Try switching white/black. Lots of black on there.
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>>133418895
that's an interesting view
seems like that "buy your way out of hell" really broke the camel's back
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>>133408142
>>133408460
>>133408571
Retarded. Natcap doesn't need a flag. Our symbol is money, power through money. Stop relegating it to some religious shit
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>>133418706
We know that's why we don't want natsoc retard, because socialism is shit.
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>>133417031
You can call me a shill, but the second you wish for borders/army you're statist, which means taxes become acceptable. Why wouldn't you want couples with children to have benefits in order tfor birth rates to thrive?

>>133417279
Yeah right, (((socialist))) who wants his children not to fall victims of your """(((capitalist)))""" debts and inflations.

>>133417648
Welfare in NatSoc is supposed to even the impulsive nature of wealth accumulation in a man's life.

It's cool to think that you'll save money for your education, but you can't, because you have to be educated before you start working.

It's cool to think about """efficient""" private healthcare, but when you're sick you can't work. However, if you get back in shape, you might be able to provide your nation with wealth fro years to come.

Pensions are a different story, my take on this is that private pensions are fine, but for fucks sake we need to get rid of the inflation before cancelling state pensions.
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>>133419458
>"""(((capitalist)))""" debts and inflations.
Okay, so you're just someone who thinks corporate America is Capitalist.
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>>133419305
This, the ideology itself having a flag detracts from Nationalism.

The nation should be romanticized, not money or ancap colors
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>>133403621
Protestants invented capitalism, retard. The fact was common knowledge until jew swindlers began revising history as they always do.
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>>133419926
capitalism was around long before protestants were ever thought of
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>>133400452
>Government exists to secure borders and uphold voluntary contracts
>But it also, you know, routinely kills people that I don't like

I don't think that you know what "voluntary" means really. This reads like the political fantasy of a 15 year old.
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Gonna make this ideology clear and perfect. The freedome to own, be armed and vote is solely for white people that have sworn allegiance to their flag, country and people. If you do not fall into this category, you are of lesser kind and can not be part of this society.

Will women have the same rights? Yes they will, they need to meet the same requirement as men but will also need to become a biological mother of a white baby. When they have done that, they are allowed the same rights are their man.

If you want to start a family, you must have taken the oath.
If you want to own, you must have taken the oath.
If you want to be armed, you must have taken the oath.

The government exist to primary enforce this law and have a minor control of the market. They also need to hold the responsibility of protecting its people from all kinds of alien danger, both direct and indirect.

Jews, niggers, muslims are not welcome and can NEVER take the oath and enjoy the benefits.
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>>133418927
As a matter of fact, I'd even go as far as to say that natcap transcends the political spectrum, as true capitalists will attempt to attain wealth and capitalise no matter what situation they are in, whether it be Venezuela or fuckin north Korea, capitalists find a way
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>>133419764
No, I know about Cryptos, I hope they ever get implemented, but you faggots prefer to talk about lowering taxes over parallel currencies and possible way to implement cryptos.

As I said, first get rid of inflation, then you can get rid of taxes.
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Then who maintains the roads?
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This topic needs some time to be refined I feel, too many mixed opinions, just keep spewing up ideas until we have a cohesive movement.
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>>133421233
machines
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This pledge thing is never going to work. Everyone here has pledged allegiance to the U.S.A. flag, and you guys are talking about revolution. Come on nutcases. You can come up with something better than a pledge.
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By the way, what's-his-name is right about capitalism. Its simply natural to humans. So I think its a WONDERFUL idea to get rid of cops and give everyone a gun in a capitalist society. Bound to work, if you ask me.
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>>133400452
>National Capitalism
Hmmmmm this is actually a pretty damn interesting concept.
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People seem to think that Fascism is compatible with ideologies like anarcho-capitalism and libertarianism but it's not. At the root of these ideologies is the doctrine of individualism, expressed as individual freedom, the right to pursue YOUR own dreams and wants. The individual is held as the fundamental reality and the carrier of values and preferences.

Fascism is the contrary, an EXTREMELY collectivistic ideology, the collective is held as the fundamental reality and the carrier of values and preferences. Fascists have no need to make concessions in the name of consent, freedom, free markets e.t.c. and say that we ought to be fascist only if we as indiviuals want it. To fascists an individual's are more liable to be called false than those of the group, in contrast to libertarian ideologies which hold that the state should possess no stance on "subjective" values.

To me, Fascism is the future-positive position. Libertarians and anarcho-capitalists seem almost masochistic, depicting a kind of hellish all-encompassing consumerism as the utopic state. Fascism doesn't need to make any concessions in values in the name of capitalism. In the same way there is no need to make any concessions in the name of equality, equality between individuals is not a reality. In tying people always more tightly together the problem of inequality dissolves. There can be no sense of inequality if there is no sense of separateness. At this extreme level people will move forward as one superorganism, that is the idea of the inseparability of the people of the state.
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>>133400452
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Oh...I thought this was a tcr ghost thread
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>>133400452
So basicaly USA in 1940s?
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>>133400452
How do you prevent the government from growing?
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>>133425767
By not giving it more funding SAGE
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>>133425865
>aggressive slav

if you can't contribute to the conversation, just don't talk.
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>>133426242
>Slav
American education
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>>133400452
Holy fucking shit. Bump. This describes my ideology perfectly.

Heil Trump! Heil Pinochet! Heil our people!
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>>133400452

Wow, sounds very goood.

Deal me in
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>>133400452
Self-organised Stalinism. Sounds like the perfect solution to no problem ever!
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>>133400452
Can Janet Yellen statues be erected in front of every Starbucks?
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>>133427699
Wat
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>>133401840
Too bad for you that capitalism is the worst form of socialism.
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Sounds noice where do i sign up
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>>133419926
Because (((one book))) said so. Fucking Americucks fall for the (((Jewish))) meme even when they try to blame the Jews for all their problems.

That book is a discussion of one aspect of capitalism developing in certain regions due to Protestant rituals and worldviews. And in no way is it a positive view of capitalism and Christianity, retard.
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>>133403488
Females would not be able to vote.
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>>133400452
What's with the helicopter meme? You waste time and money on helicopters when you could just throw people off cliffs. Heck, punch a deep hole into the ground and drop people in.
The Muslims have it half right with stoning
>Bind person
>Dig hole
>Bury person
>Stone
Just bury people up to their neck on barren land and leave them
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>>133426980
Let's further it friendo.

Objectivism is the only possible /final/ redpill.
Libertarianism is incomplete Objectivism. Objectivism without the epistemology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erytcpYpzRk [Embed]
Cultural Marxists are terrified of Ayn Rand as she represents the American Constution completed; a rejection of the Primordial evil that is Altruism that the US founding fathers lacked. The ONLY thing they lacked. Epistemologically validated, metaphysically defined, and ethically expanded, Objectivism is the greatest threat Commies have ever encountered which is why they cannot even bear to have it discussed as a philosophy.

Objectivist NatCap Meritocracy is the only society in which a free man can live.
Also reminder that while AnCapism means well and is certainly preferable to statism but is utterly inferior to Laissez-faire Capitalism. LfCap>AnCap for the same reason Minarchism>Anarchism and THAT is because objective law>polycentric law. Read a little of these lexicons to discover why.
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/anarchism.html
https://fee.org/articles/the-nature-of-government-by-ayn-rand/

Ayn Rand's criticism of pure anarchism is irrefutable, especially in C:TUI and TVoS. I like Molymeme but a case against anarchism can be observed in his attempt, and failure, to "rebutt" Ayn Rand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My2sLnHpyG4
Observe the comment section.
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>>133408306
They're all rapists
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>>133429501
It's symbolic you autist.
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>>133408571
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>>133408936
its like cantwellism
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>>133400452
Sounds incredible my boy.
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>>133408936
Reminder:
LfCap>AnCap because
Minarchism>Anarchism because
Objective law>Polycentric law
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>>133400452
So in other words it's Hoppes libertarianism, the ideology that would put a puzzle together perfectly but stop just short of actually connecting the pieces.
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>>133430093
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>>133400944
Its weird, its free trade as long as other countries function on the same standard and don't fiki fiki their favorite industries.
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>>133400452
Have fun getting duped again, good goyim.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13421571/r
GUYS NEED HELP!
Natsoc are winning!
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>>133400452
Fuck off capitaist swine

We will seize the means of production and stop the suffering of the common laborer.
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>>133430766
Saved
>>133430703
More like Ran Libertarianism aka Objectivism. It's symbol is the dollar after all. Objectivism DOES connect the peices.
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>>133400452
Do you guys believe natcaps and natsocs can work together?
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>>133431323
*Rand
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>>133431266
Go home you socialist cuck
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>>133403249
The governments job is to protect the people
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>>133400452

Is gay or homosexual propaganda legal? Yeah? Fuck this then.

Fascism or nothing. You'll get the free market where it doesn't destroy the cultures of the world.
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>>133400452
there was a nation like that six score ago.
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>>133431072
You do know communism is literally a system invented by Jews, for the benefit and superiority of Jewish people over gentiles? Keep the gentiles in a false sense of equality through the same pay while the kikes reap the benefits.

You're a stupid, blind retard and you and your ilk are pretty much the reason why communists are not respected anywhere outside of liberal college campuses.

You're so blind to what (((communism))) actually is, complete and utter gentile enslavement and complete and utter kike supremacy behind the curtain.

Also it doesn't work on a nationalistic basis either which is why (((they're))) pushing for a one world government so your shitty system of consensual enslavement can be implemented on a mass scale.

Kill yourself.
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>>133431072
Hävè füñ gêttïñg dūpēd ãgãïñ göyīm
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>no jews
>state religion is jew worship

what did he mean by this?
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