>Reminder that if Net Neutraility Falls ISPs can block 4Chan

btw some countries don't do that jewish shit

>>133377781
Reminder that they can block website now as is with net neutrality.

Net neutrality in its current state was introduced in 2015. Literally nothing will happen.

>>133378205
Before only if justice allows it tho
now they can block if ISPs allows beacuse " uses too much data "

>>133377912
>Literally nothing will happen
>implying that they cant change the rules

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>>133377781

EU have it to, got it in 2016. Sadly americans wont listen.

>>133377781
Bullshit. Net Neutrality would allow government appointed unelected bureaucratic communists to regulate the internet.

>>133377781
Good. Maybe 4chan will get tor support then.

>>133379637
THEY ARENT APPEALING NET NEUTRALITY FFS

Only regulation is being removed that stunts growth and competition. Every obama agenda is about keeping monopolies thriving and level at the top. Trump wants to re introduce capitalism so we can make some damn progress. I want faster internet not regulation that states all websites get equal bandwidth. I want startup ISPs to offer me faster internet while saying fuck you to the large internet companies that i will never use.

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Anti-net neutrality cucks: The oligopoly that owns your ISP also owns MSNBC, Univision and (soon) CNN. You want to give them more control? lmao

>>133377781
But if we get rid of NN we can finally have an unelected panel of bureaucrats censor the internet like TV is today. Which means people who hurt my feelings will be blocked form spreading their hate.

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>>133380608

I have a 70/70 connection with no data cap. Thats net neutrality.

U soon have to pay to use google son.

>>133380608
Huh? This is a battle between conglomerate ISPs vs conglomerate internet corporations. They fight each other we win out as competition breeds innovation.

>>133378514
>>implying that they cant change the rules
OK then once they block 4chan then I will consider NN
Until then fuck off

>>133380608
>and (soon) CNN.
Good

>CNN boss in crosshairs if AT&T-Time Warner merger approved

http://nypost.com/2017/06/28/cnn-boss-in-crosshairs-if-att-time-warner-merger-approved/

>>133379969
>Dear customer. We have detected that you have passed your 1gig encrypted data transmission cap. To purchase unlimited encrypted data transmission as an option is an extra fee of 49.99. Have a good day.

>>133377781

God I hope it falls, can't wait to watch the iron law of supply and demand

>>133377781
>what is a vpn
disagree with this crap but dont we have a "they gone to take are internet away" thing about once or twice a year now and nothing ever happens

>>133381279
>Dear customer, you are attempting to access 192.533.475.001. Your basic account only gives you access to Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and Tumbler. to access 192.533.475.001, please purchase the Premium+ Pro Exclusive Package for 199.99. Which is on sale with a one year contract for 189.99 per month. Thank you for your business.

>>133381003
Correct. There is no need to regulate imaginary problems.

>>133381237
>>133381844
I cant wait till mega ISPs get sued and try to implement all these money hungry agendas crashing and burning them to the ground. I want to see reddit cry as well as they have to pay additional fees for hosting the donald lmao.

>>133381724
I dont remember this happening back in 2015

I wouldn't mind appealing NN if there were actually a decent number of ISPs to choose from. Hell, in my area shitty comcast is the only option I have and they're already jewy enough as it is.

>>133377781
I really hope it falls. Can't wait for nothing to happen so I can laugh in the faces of all you virtue-signalling LARPing faggots

>implying anything would be lost with this filth blocked

be honest, your lives would improve

In case you guys lose and they get to block content and try forcing you to pay for it, is there any way around? can you use Tor or VPN in order to access the blocked content without bandwidth limitation?

>>133381279
>>133379969
You know, what you dont get is. A ISP only needs to supply like 200 websites to pacify the majority of their customers. Which means anything else can be designated to premium. Amazon, Google, Facebook they like NN because they dont want to pay Comcast to keep their websites on the basic plan but they will because they have the money to do so.

4chan, Britbart, Zerohedge, your VPN, Every alternate media outlet, that MMO you like that no one plays, Your TOR network you get on to buy drugs and Childporn. Everything that makes the internet interesting, useful and free, does not have the money to pay.

The abolishment of NN will remove 99% of the internet in a matter of years.

>>133382427
Exactly Anon. When we only have 1 viable ISP option, we need neutrality for even access to content. If we had choices of ISP, than NN should go away and users could shop best packages tailored to their use.

>>133382727
So why not solve that problem then.

It sounds like you've regulated yourself into a wretched contentment.

>>133382674
Can you develop this idea? Seems like the first reasonable (but new) idea on this NN topic

>>133382901
I don't have the wherewithal to break up ISP oligarchy.

>>133382727
Not only that, but what about down the road (8 years) when Trump leaves office and we get politicians paying/striking deals with ISP's to "censor" or throttle certain websites (ie. wikileaks)?

Unless I'm completely misunderstanding this whole issue, I can't help but be wary of shit like that.

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>>133379024
how bad is it

>>133383213
Why wasn't this a problem in 2015?

>>133382674
Except that will never happen as its a violation of free speech. Or it will happen and like i said ISPs will get sued and die.
>>133382427
>>133382727
This is due to obamas regulation killing competition. Sure new ISPs pop up but in monopolized areas they cannot afford to function. True capitalism is when the giants fall and the new innovative replace them. Every single facet of society is being consolidated we need to break up monopolies and get back our free market.

Net Neutrality is the most psy-op'd bullshit on the internet.

It's been so well done too, that most people legitimately cannot explain what is actually is while simultaneously choosing a side in the discussion and defending fervently.

Remember before 2015 when we couldn't access 4chan before net neutrality was in effect? Bunch of sensationalist retards. My internet has only gotten more expensive since that shit too.

>>133383186
Look into cable franchise agreements.

>>133380394
This, net neutrality meme has gone too far.

>>133377781
The fags actually did that to the pirate bay a few months ago. Even though tpb was still up, a central hub for the physical internet in the US took the liberty of firewalling TPB's ip for fucking everyone.

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>>133382931
Its not new. Its a backdown of the meaning behind this picture you see were all those websites that everyone uses are 5 extra dollars. This picture is just an example of what the telecommunication companies can do. With no NN they can end any website they want to just by limiting access to what ISPs you can access.

Take Amazon for example. You see Amazon, but your computer sees the IP address. They can immediately end 99% of the internet and end Pier to Pier communications just by giving you only access to Amazons IP address.

There is no VPN or proxy that can get around it.

>>133383455
No its not. You are perfectly free to post anything you want on your website, They are not obligated to let people get to it using their service if there is no Network Neutrality.

>>133382674
If this prediction happens
I WILL T. McVeigh their headquarters
hopefully many of their staff will perish too

>get called a terrorist
but actually a hero

limit my freedom of speech
and I will limit your freedom to not get burned to death

>>133378514
My isp throttles my internet until I google the words "speed test" or visit a known speed testing website.

>>133377781

You think they want this quarantine to be forced to wreak havoc on the web? I don't think so.

>>133383816
This it's the future we choose.

Tim May warned us about this but he wasn't hip enough.

99 problems and freedom ain't one.

>>133383847
Kek he thinks ISPs will do this, that's a good way to drive your company into the fucking ground.

>>133383905
They dont do it immediately. It will be a slow change. First you will have normal internet access and shills will be like SEE NOTHING HAPPENED! Then a few months down the line, perhaps you will see Thepiratebay become a premium website. Then a few months later they will isolate major TOR hubs, because mah chilllens. And gradually, they will strangle it.

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If I have a huge porn problem should I be for or against net neutrality?

oh my god you communists REALLY do not understand competition.

this is MADNESS

>>133384284
Is it? What are you going to do about it? Ohh you are going to switch to that other ISP in town, that one thats doing the same thing we are donig. GO A HEAD, we play Gold together on the weekends, will will have a laugh about it.

>>133384405
For it, unless you want to pay extra for pornhub

>>133384570
My porn problem is bad but I will never pay for porn in my entire life

>>133381154
>>133381724
>>133382674
>>133383847
>>133384295
>>133384495
t. corporate shill

>>133384875
Actually I just like getting free anime and visiting 4chan. Two things that will end with NN.

You do realise that the free market will sort this out right?

Even if some companies start jewisng everyone then a company will come along which will provide you with unlimited internet and full access. They will explode because they provide a better service.

If you don't believer in the free market you are pretty much a commie.

>>133383847
Again wont happen or they will get sued. Nobody is KILLING NET NEUTRALITY. ISPs will still be treated as a utility in the USA. What does this mean? It means larger companies who use more bandwidth will have to pay more for their growth. Like every utility ever.

>>133385184
The problem is that many places have only one option, and the company with a monopoly will prevent other startups from forming.

>>133384495
File a suit with the Federal Trade Commission, look it up tard

>>133385652
Then solve THAT PROBLEM. Why are you trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist by creating a new problem to deal with later?

>>133385184
Do you have any clue about the costs of starting up a nationwide telecommunications company? Do you have any idea the amount of hate every telecommunications company has for everything thats NOT the mainstream websites? The freemarket will sort this out like they sorted out the banking system.

>>133385652
Well once regulation is gutted people can vote with their wallet. Why is everyone so afraid of the free market all a sudden? We are americans fuck these mega ISPs and MEGA internet giants.

The internet has been heading downhill for the past decade anyway, it's been the eternal September all over again since 2007.
This is probably the final nail in its coffin, as the EU and the rest of the world will soon follow suit.
As always, anyone moderately savvy wishing for uncucked discussion will move underground as alternative networks will gain popularity.

I still can't fathom how having a rule that prevents users from having their shit pushed in registers as interventionism with you people.

>>133385039
4chan and all that existed just fine 2 years ago when it took effect. You're either misinformed or intentionally spreading misinformation.

>>133386053
NN has been in place since the internet was established.

>>133381724
what kind of fucked up ass ip is that

>>133386178
ok then repealing the 2015 ruling will not do anything

>>133386184
No idea. Just hit random numbers. I didnt click on it, its probably a chinese malware site.

>>133386029
Uch. The fight against consolidation of power is endless. Im just noticing a trend lately where people are telling me you cant do anything about it. Really defeatist attitude as globalist worshiping sheep fall prey to the final stages of the NWO.

>>133386272
The 2015 ruling strengthened NN and cemented it when the ISPs were trying to end it. Overturning that derision is more less ending NN.

>>133385184
if you're wondering what ISPs will do if net neutrality is repealed, we already know.

2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it. https://www.cnet.com/news/telco-agrees-to-stop-blocking-voip-calls/

2005 - Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers.

2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. http://fortune.com/2009/04/03/group-asks-fcc-to-probe-iphone-skype-restrictions/

2011 - MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except youtube. https://www.wired.com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality-challenge/

2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit. http://www.businessinsider.com/verizon-blocking-google-wallet-2011-12

2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/fcc-fines-verizon-125m-for-blocking-tethering-apps/2012/07/31/gJQAXjRLNX_blog.html

2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money. https://www.freepress.net/press-release/99480/att-blocking-iphones-facetime-app-would-harm-consumers-and-break-net-neutrality

2013, Verizon literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place. https://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2013/09/18/verizons-plan-break-internet

>>133387730
Why not archive?

>https://wired com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality-challenge
https://archive.is/LwLMM
>http://businessinsider com/verizon-blocking-google-wallet-2011-12
https://archive.is/YlqZs

this thread is a little too civil. Shills are probably out in full force today

>>133387243
NN is just a principle. Nothing regulated and enforced it before 2015

>>133388385
Ohh they are but theres not that many. Just a handfull copy pasting in the threads. Mostly its mass ignorance about what NN does. And somehow these people thing the internet companies are benevolent.

>use google fiber
>google fiber doesn't fall under nn rules because better lobbyists than comcrap
>still able to use entire internet
Really makes me think.

>>133384875
>someone stands eith net neutrality and with freedom against corporations
>get called a shill

I will never understand ancaps.

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>>133377781
>land of the free
>about to get banned from visiting Mongolian ox-skinning forum

>>133377781
>ISPs can block 4Chan forever on US
Fucking finally. I hope Canada follows.

>>133383939
holy shit never realised that but it's probably happening to loads of people

>>133389189
Then why are you here? Its a American based website, its only owned by a gook. It would cease to exit.

>net neutrality hits with full force
>all non-normalfag websites are blocked
>all it takes to bypass the block is using a non-american VPN and DNS
>computer illiterate normalfags are now banned from most of the internet
>quality of 4chan improves greatly overnight
>most of the mods/janitors are also banned

>>133377781
oh i get it
>make up bullshit about net neutrality
>make people think that net neutrality is bullshit
>defeat anybodies interest on net neutrality without anybody knowing what it is/was
>let our congressional overlords do whatever they want with net neutrality
what are the side effects of the red pill?

>>133383939
And you can sue them for that, because it's illegal, but if net neutrality wasn't a thing, they wouldn't even need to hide it.

>>133377781
>some countries has...

You do your cause no good by posting like a retard.

>>133390999
even better, make 4chan a trustless P2P where people select who their mods are

>>133377781
>two things.
what you said is bullshit, they can be blocked now.
>and
4 chan is blocked....I...i can finally go outside now.

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>>133383785
the problem is people wont look past the first words of the law, or even what its about past a title, or EVEN if it impacts any existing policy or other law ALREADY in place.

If there was a "protection for children act" but on about page 50 it talked about legalization of baby rape, all of these mindless, two dimensional, toxic avenger looking motherfuckers would be gargling at the cock of every politician and media outlet paid to whore itself out...like obedient slaves.

>>133385388
Is there any other utility that allows the company to provide it only for a certain use?

Does your water stop coming out of the tap when you use a kettle of a different brand than the one sponsoring whatever company provides the city's water?

Because that's what a lack of net neutrality look like.

>>133385652
>The problem is that many places have only one option, and the company with a monopoly will prevent other startups from forming.
You can thank the FCC's Telecommunications Act of 1996 for that.

>Hey! Remember that time we gave the FCC regulatory power over the internet and it completely fucked us over? I know how we can fix it! Let's give the FCC even more, vaguer, broader regulatory power over the internet!

You guys are like those retards who think the solution to problems caused by socialism is more socialism.

>>133391756
Shit reddit spacing, sry.

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>>133383639
>My internet has only gotten more expensive since that shit too.

Everything always gets more expensive.

t. Old Person

>>133377781
>Being a bong with loads of stuff blocked by isp.
It's never stopped me doing what I want on the net. All easily bypassed.

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>>133391374
>Has british flag
>Uk got the most censored fucked up internet, almost as bad as china
Lol
Get the fuck out of this thread britbong

>>133384405
What is your porn problem?

You don't have enough of it, or you think everybody else has too much, or what?

>>133377781
At this point OP, if the democrats support it, its a big red fucking flag. Theres some nefarious bullshit behind it and like others have said, theres no sense in regulating imaginary problems.

>>133391756
>>133391837
Wrong the FCC isnt ending network neutrality which leads to slow speeds or throttling.

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Can anyone actually make up their mind as to what the bill itself will do or are you intent to gallivant around discussing issues that aren't there?

>>133392749
Telecom Act of 96 is what let companies like Mediacom and Comcast establish regional monopolies in the first place you tard. Fuckups caused by FCC regulation aren't going to be fixed by even more FCC regulation

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>>133383847
>This picture is just an example of what the telecommunication companies can do.

picture related is just an example of what the government can do with net neutrality. They can regulate the internet and there is no second internet.