NatSoc/Libertarianism alliance when?

>>133374412
Never. NatSoc is DEAD.

>>133374412
Libertarians and socialists are polar opposites, regardless if you are nationalist or globalist...

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I fucking hate socialism, but I'd embrace some temporary authoritarianism just to remove the leftist cancer.

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>>133374412
fuck off natsoc scum, don't ever tread on my qt snek imouto again

>>133374412
>starts with lib

Into trash

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>>133374412
NOW.

>>133374711
"I hate x, but i would do x" you like x then you daft idiot.
Don't get me wrong commies are far worst than retarded natsoc but there is no reason to perpetuate the need for socialists to stop communists, all that would need to be done is end welfare.

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>>133374711
Sounds good. The only problem with that is what happens when those with authority get a feel for the power and don't want to give it up?

Communism >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nat Soc

>>133374412
Maybe when Ancaps pull their heads out of their asses.

>>133375128
natsoc is radical centrism of communism

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>>133374412
It's already here, once we remove leftists we can debate the best economic policy like reasonable adults, or agree to split the country evenly between us.

D&C retards get out.

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>>133375307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtBvaTiMGMg

>>133374412
Go to hell bootlicker.

>>133374711
>Temporary authoritarianism
top kek

>>133374412

Not sure it would work.
Would libs be OK with us removing kebabs, niggers and kikes ?
OK with us beating degenerates and reeducate them ?
OK with us establishing a strong, loyal central authority ?
OK being called to arms to protect the race and the nation ?

I have doubts

>>133374412
AnCap/communist alliance when?

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>>133375643
>>133375030
>implying that hasn't already happened IRL and worked extremely well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg9hhQ8K4a0

>>133374412
Nat-Libertarian alliance

Fuk socialism

Christopher Cantwell (AnCap Prophet) recently went full 1488.

You can't form a revolution off of "please leave me alone please", and when more of these FUCKTARDS finally realize that, then we can form an "alliance".

>>133374412
Most people on this board are white nationalist, so yeah, I'd say we already have a common purpose. Not going to lie, though, I'm getting tired of explaining to sneks that NatSoc =/= (((socialism))).

>>133375643
>what are war powers

>>133374412
when did Gadsden become a "liberal" flag?

>>133375678

I like where your head's at, Pierre.

>>133374583
This. Nazism is over.

Also, blaming every single one of your problems on some shadowy cabal of ethnic supervillians is fucking childish.

>>133376140
>The libertarians need our help more than we need them
>Bootlickers are always the ones proposing the idea of an alliance
What do libertarians get by allying with statists?

>>133376307
>>what are war powers
Excuses to assert unjust authority. Like the patriot act, alien and sedition acts, and assassination of US citizens and their children without trials.

Not that America should ever be at war. We should let the world sort its own problems out, nobody has the means to invade the US anyway.

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>>133376762
>nobody has the means to invade the US anyways
>pic related doesn't count somehow

>>133377036
And the current military and war powers the government has are fixing that how?

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>>133376544
>(you) related

>>133376762
>US citizens
>muzzie shitskins
Kek, they shouldn't be citizens in the first place.
And you think we can set things right without fighting for it? There will be a war, like it or not. And the way it's going, if you're not willing to fight, you'll end up with a NatSoc state instead of a libertarian one (although honestly, they wouldn't be that different after the war finished).

>>133376490
Jews controlling the media and banks isn't "some shadowy cabal of ethnic supervillians ".
Why don't you debate me? Or are you too scared, kike?

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>>133377084
They aren't because they aren't national socialist powers they are (((globalist))) powers. We currently have the worst of both worlds, and they're subsidizing an army of foreign leftists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-K3odk0-4

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>>133377036
You are genuinely autistic if you believe that crock. My biggest problem with the internet is that people will read infographs, see some "credible source" cited a the bottom and just believe it.

Please go outside and tell me that only 3.8% of us citizens are white.

>>133377271
Why don't you mention a single thing libertarians gain by aligning themselves with a dead ideology that is heavily condemned throughout the west.

>>133376544
>already live in a socialist state that is anti-white
>ally with 'socialists' who are pro-white, and they don't even believe in gibsmedats, just limited workfare and self-sufficiency
>End result is either a better, whiter 'socialist' state, or peaceful creation of separate snek state
You have nothing to lose.
>>133376490
>t. Judenschwein

>>133377036
>>133377444
Shit my bad anon i confused the two blues

>>133375128
libertarianism >>>>>>>>>>>communism

>>133377414
And the solution to free ourselves is to put people who are expressly authoritarian in charge instead of just driving out the autocrats who seek to destroy our culture and take away our rights.

>>133374711
so you're not a libertarian

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>>133374637
You're incorrectly viewing national socialism as a Marxist construct. Actually, you're incorrectly viewing national socialism as any kind of construct: it was a charismatic movement, not an ideology.

I guess what I'm telling you is that you're right while also not knowing what you're talking about.

>>133377452
See >>133377469
It's political suicide to out yourself as pro-Nazi (even though we should all be skeptical of our (((democracy))) at this point), but if we're talking about a civil war scenario, it's obvious that we have common interests.

>>133377469
>You have nothing to lose.
Except you know becoming more of an underground ideology due to allying with a far more condemned ideology and confirming the loss of our rights.

>>133374412
>tfw ancap so I can have the freedom to live in a natsoc community
The reason ancapism is so great is because you can work whatever political ideal you want with in, so long as it is voluntary and on your own property. There is nothing stopping you from building a Nazi community, or a socialist commune, on your own property. There is nothing stopping you from coming to agreement with your neighbours to never sell property or do business with non-whites, essentially keeping a racially pure community.

The two are totally compatible, but only if ancapism is "superior" and Nazism is subject to the NAP, so you can't go around annexing other people's property or anything, otherwise you essentially become barbarians grounds for extermination by other property owners in defense of their own property.

>>133377036
>white people not breeding is an invasion
>white culture going stale is an invasion
>white parents failing to pass on traditions and values is an invasion
>white people being primary supporters of leftist values is an invasion

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>>133377444
>>133377535
ty for correcting, I made the same mistake first time I saw that infograph too.

>>133377701
Nah, in a civil war I would as soon line up and shoot the authoritarian right as I would the authoritarian left. Daily reminder that much of the current situation was set up during the early cold war where the primary focus of the right was anti-communism.

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>>133374412
Leave to us the economy, we trust you on borders and ethno-nationalism. Deal?

>>133376307
>NatSoc =/= (((socialism))).
Except it does, you buffoon.

>>133377712
You think somebody will just give you your rights? You tell me, with a rapidly declining white population, and the corresponding surge is gibsmedat spics who vote for socialist commie garbage, when do you think libertarianism will ever become a potent force? Over time, if we don't take armed action, how can you possibly think things will get better?

Right now, it is probably best to disassociate yourselves from us. But when the shit hits the fan, remember we're in this together.

>>133377896
There is no reason national-libertarianism couldn't be a thing. Armed neutrality is a long existing concept. The nation exists for its inhabitants, not for other people, the freedoms ensured by the state exist only for the people of the nation. Essentially Americans first, Americans last, Americans only.

>>133377452
>>133377701
This.

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>>133377813
We aren't allowed stop, or even slow immigration
We are forced to subsidize nonwhite welfare
We are forced to hire nonwhites.
We are forced to integrate with nonwhites
The media promotes miscegenation ceaselessly

>Hurrr as long as they don't force us at gunpoint to literally fuck nonwhites itz all voluntary!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOEweZtlonQ

>>133377749
This. Beautiful thing about ancapism is hating on anyone you want without a state to tell you that hating is wrong. All you have to do is not be a bitch about it.

>>133377858
So you're saying you would rather maintain ideological purity than actually win a conflict, thereby securing the globalist victory and destruction of the white race.

OK.
>>133377909
Not the same thing. A person who refuses to work when he is able will receive nothing. A person who does work will receive nothing, because he is working.
The state will merely help people find work if necessary.

Compare that to our current nigletbux.

>>133377271
I made the statement and you're refuting it. You're debating ME, kike.

I do very much enjoy the idea that you assume I'm Jewish, because I don't agree with you. It's case-in-point your movement's paranoid obsession.

I'm not refuting the fact that Jews hold stations of power and wealth - what I refute is the idea that there is some unifying pan-global conspiracy actively working to undermine American values.

The most effective thing that the Jews have done is create America as it's protector, funding Israel and generally taking the Jew's side over everyone else in every situation. But even that has a longer history and a more complex explanation that some Learned Elders pulling puppet-strings from secret underground bunkers.

>>133377896
I would be fine with this.

>>133378026
I never opposed taking armed action against our oppressors. Libertarianism and even Anarcho-Capitalism aren't inherently pacifist by any means. What you are proposing is replacing iron chains for bronze chains, I'm proposing breaking the chains.

>>133378298
>So you're saying you would rather maintain ideological purity than actually win a conflict, thereby securing the globalist victory and destruction of the white race.
You are saying the same, if you truly cared about the white race than you would simply assimilate with the larger ideology, instead you demand ideological purity and a mere alliance. Besides it is better for the white race to die with its honour intact than to survive as a race of weak servile followers who surrendered their freedom for security.

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>>133377569
Hows that been working out for ya??
You aren't demonized in the media like us, clearly you should be in charge now if it was that easy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNEgOg2y8Xg

>>133374412
Never! NatSoc want more government in every aspect of their life. Libertarianism wants less government and more freedom.

>>133374637 is right.

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>>133378335
BUT:
>Islationism: No imperialism
>Eliminate gun control AFTER physically removing commies

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>>133377858
>tactically retarded

>>133378356
As I said, the best thing is a temporary alliance to cast off the chains, then we can get to defining our borders. I actually like >>133377896 as an idea. Maybe the heartland could be a libertarian area, with border marches being militarized and NatSoc? We each get what we want, and it can work quite well within a federal system or a condominium.

>>133374711
>temporary authoritarianism

So you think the government would just give up their power?

>>133378637
No problem, lad. I might want to support some interventions to help whites take back Europe, though. Purely voluntary, however--the state shouldn't tax you sneks.

>>133378640
>How dare someone want to be free

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>>133374412
NatSocs are delusional retards who will forever stay LARPing in their mothers basements

>>133378303
You're right, i'm sorry.

>>133374412

NatSoc and Snek (not lolbertarians, those niggers are retarded) are natural allies who can be expected to answer the calls of the other.

It's not as if there's any possibility of an alliance with lefty trash, after all.

(((>>133378821)))

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>>133378764
Look >>133378637
>Eliminate gun control AFTER physically removing commies

When the area is clean, is time to secession

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>>133377271
Yeah those evil capitalists let's take them down, oh woops I mean jews

>>133377414
Based niggers will totally sort themselves out and stop being subhuman trash if they have the free market

>>133375307
Exactly

>>133377036
What will happen to the democrats when they can run as "The Party of the Minority"

>>133379005
Israel isn't the problem. The kikes in our own countries are. And usury-based (((capitalism))) helps no one. Certainly not small business owners.

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>>133378863
Unexpected and appreciated. Thank you.

Here's a naked woman as an olive branch.

>>133378669
>As I said, the best thing is a temporary alliance to cast off the chains, then we can get to defining our borders.
The way I see it the best I can do is use your followers as lemmings to gain ground and then betray you as the war comes to a close before you can betray us. National socialists will always be a threat to freedom whether they inhabit our nation or not. Remember that Hitler annexed lands that opposed annexation and had no German majority even before WW2 started.

>>133374412
This is the dumbest post I've ever seen on /pol/

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>>133378805
A private squad of volunteers hired by the state would look good

>>133374412
Never.

The two are diametrically opposed.

>>133379166
Hitler dindu nuffin
he a gud boi
But seriously, most of the NatSocs here just want white countries again. I think you're just being a bit jumpy where it isn't warranted.

>>133379172
Get the fuck out newfag, /pol/ was always like that.

>>133379309
Then why classify themselves as national socialists if socialism isn't a core part of their ideology? I'm a national libertarian and both libertarianism and nationalism is a core part of my ideology. Take away the national portion and you have the modern librtarian party who are the second best goyim. Take away the libertarian portion and you have an ideology akin to Juche.

>>133379449
Fuck off, retard. Nazism and Libertarianism are incompatible.

>>133378060
A Libertarian Nationalist. I think I've found my home.

>>133379449
>/pol/ has always been stupid
I mean you are right but it doesn't make your post less stupid.

> discussing the possibility of two utopian ideologies ever existing in a first world country again on a Taiwanese rice selling board.
How many of you are serious ?

>>133379630
You ought to have the freedom to be a Nazi on your own property.

>>133377749
Why would I submit to the NAP if me and my people have the power to take what is yours? Why should I not improve the livelihood of my people by taking what belongs to foreigners? Is it not my responsibility as a leader to ensure the well-being of my people?

"The strong will do as they please and the weak will suffer what they must."; That's what the Athenians told the people of Melos before they razed their city, had the men killed and the women and children enslaved.

As long as there's just one faction that does not submit to the NAP you're essentially forced to create some kind of state for the purpose of defending against that faction. And for that state to function you need some kind of organisation. And that in turn requires some kind of funds gathered through taxation, and in the end you're left with the very same structure we have today.

>>133379610
Juche is just a fancy word for autarky. I'm not even that much of an authoritarian by nature, and my ideal life would be farming my own plot of land away from it all. I'm a 'socialist' in the sense that I think the white nation needs to be reformed to give everyone a shot at self-sufficiency, then with some moral controls to keep the commies out, I'd pretty much be a libertarian.

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>>133380187
Of course, but attempting to enforce it on others would be a violation of the NAP.

If people want to dress their child prostitute mercenaries up in little SS uniforms, more power to them. I can set up a company that makes Einsatzgruppen uniforms for toddlers.

Libertarianism is just the newest thing the Jew's are pushing to prevent the people from becoming Nat Soc.

Libertarianism is incompatible with National Socialism in every single way imaginable

>>133374412
Some histrionic left lolbertarians may screech otherwise, since they like the current zeitgeist, but /pol/ always had a pragmatic view on the culture aspect even though there is differences on economic aspects.
It's a faux purity spiral really, standard divide and conquer shilling and newfags as usual

>>133380325
>Juche is just a fancy word for autarky.
And you know the state sending you and your entire family to a work camp for questioning the state or direction of the nation while 30% of the population are part of the armed forces. Not to mention low standards of living and famine.

>>133380547

Nonsense. /pol/ has never drawn a consensus on anything, because /pol/ isn't a face to any political group. The plurality of those here are actually centrist.

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>>133380458
>to prevent the people from becoming Nat Soc

Yes because we're all just itching to have a tyrannical government

>>133380400
>Of course, but attempting to enforce it on others would be a violation of the NAP.
Obviously, I mentioned that earlier, on your own property or properties owned by people under some kind of contractual agreement you would be able to, in theory, participate in whatever political system you wished, as long as it does not violate the NAP.

>>133380615
Kek, I don't think anyone wants another Best Korea. They are an anomaly, created by commies and sustained by terror.

>>133376307
>I-IT'S NOT REAL SOCIALISM!
What an absolute retard you are.

>>133381067
It literally isn't. And even if it were, all-white Communism is still better than a (((democracy))) overrun with shitskins. Identity can never be recovered, whilst ideologies can change.

>>133380458
>implement NatSoc
>government officials are bribed by oligarchs
>entire country is once again ruled by corporate dictators
This is why we can't have NatSoc on top, it is just as prone as any other system to be subject to manipulation from the outside, as much as you brainwash your staff into not taking bribes they will eventually cave, like all people, the the will of the rich.

Every state is a plutocracy, the only remedy to this is to abolish the state.

>>133380757
> on anything
It has draw a clear set of targets, regressives, degenerates and the like, and is more or less unified in the culture wars, the end game differs though.
Leftypol is a abismal minority of cancerous refugees and never had a foothold here, so yeah /pol/ disagrees a lot but not on everything

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>>133380547
>standard divide and conquer shilling

I used to think so, but it really isn't.

Nazifags make threads every day shitting on every right-wing figure who doesn't "name the jew". Lauren Southern, Stefan Molyneux, Mike Cernovich, anyone who has actually had an impact toward promoting right-wing politics is actually a jew kike controlled opposition whatever according to delusional Nazifags.

Everyone is a jew, everyone is against them, they sound exactly like Antifa, a fringe group of psychos who hates everyone.

never
I'll never support and help a society what shunned me,
stabbed me in the back, laughed at me, and made me an outcast despite being a nice guy towards everyone.
Now I'm a sociopath.

>>133381067
Do you even know what that meme is implying, you fucking retard?

no
get your grubby hands off my money you greedy cunts

>>133381403
You certainly sound like a nice fellow

>>133381326

If you actually took the time to poll all the users on this board you'd know that isn't true. Majority possibly, but having everyone agree to those tenets is impossible, especially on an anonymous board.

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>>133374412
NOW

>>133381377
The retards are always more vocal and trolls tend follow, actual ethno nationalist, not the edgy degenerate that their beloved hitler would gas in a heartbeat, fit the bill better.
But fuck the autistic retards that shit on every right wing movement, they are self defeating imbeciles anyway.

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>itt underage lolbergs that have no clue what National Socialism is

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>tfw no black front flag

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>>133380939

>>133381901
>No democratic representation?
Check
>Heavy government regulations on manufacturing and trading of goods?
Check
>Regulations regarding what one can and cannot personally own?
Check
>Mandatory service in the state military
Check

Pray tell why should I consider national socialism compatible with libertarianism?

>>133381758
I believe it's a majority, but only when the opposition is concerned
I doubt many would agree on the same tenets, maybe a common core of some right wing aspects at best, again disregarding leftwing diaspora

>>133380939
Are you trying to imply that i'm not one of the people on the left of that picture?

>>133377813
Its an invasion, sorry you are still stuck in the 20th century warfare model. You're like a knight saying guns aren't real war. This is the new model, adapt or die.

>>133381751
I was once.
Now I hate people, and I absolutely hate that a gyppo or nog hamplanet lives off on MY money, what I earned with back pain and sweat, yet and take away double amounts of my paycheck, just because she was able to open her legs, while her entire family is just a leech.
Nor I would never pay for Jamal's, José's and Tyrone's education.

>>133375643
>who is Pinochet

>>133374412
They aren't even slightly compatible

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>>133377896
I am okay with that.
(But just saying, the kikes will creep in as always, and you will be back to Weimerica in < 50 years)

http://www.strawpoll.me/13418256

please answer

>>133382323
You talking about Israel here?

>>133374412
It's just being Hoppeans.

absolutely never. natso is the inverse of freedom and self determination. you guys are obsessed with what other people do in their own time and in their own homes and discourage independent thought. authoritarian left and authoritarian right are two side of the same piece of shit.

>>133383109
Also you can give reasons as why you voted for or against

>>133383210
i think hes talking about the one failure of a country that embraced the swastika and turned their country into a dystopian nightmare.

>>133382904
You either have the personal power to push back societies influence or you are bound to it, be it as a leech or leeched
I am sure you already knew this, but good luck anyways

>>133374412

Lolbertarians refuse to accept the fact that race is real and muds love big government

>>133376490
This is a new thing where we take the best of both and leave the shit behind.

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>>133377909

>>133374412
Never.
http://ropeculture.org/2017/01/13/zero-tolerance/

>We’ve quite literally had enough of the Altright and everything associated with it, so we are set on moving on and leaving it behind for good, as we no longer wish to bother – this was our attitude for several months now, but let this article be our New Year’s resolution, as we issue a call to all our true Fascists and National Socialists comrades – a call for Zero Tolerance.

>Zero Tolerance for anyone who isn’t a Fascist or National Socialist, for we march alone. This article is our final call for everyone to decide if they do share this vision, as it will be explained below, and realize that there is but one way towards its achievement. Alternatively, if they find that they have nothing in common with us, then let us part ways and hear no more talk of “alliances” and “punching right”.

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>>133381377
>Nazifags make threads every day shitting on every right-wing figure who doesn't "name the jew". Lauren Southern, Stefan Molyneux, Mike Cernovich

No, that's kike shills you fucking retard.

They've been doing it for years.

Incidentally they're also the ones constantly trying to force this "Libertarian vs NatSoc" divide.

>>133382904


i just hate that the government uses so much of my taxes for "morality" and i state i dont live in. if i want to give charity or live in a state with high taxes that's my own choice. but dont make me pay to feed some guy that hates everything i am and stand for across the country. while im not fond of the people that abuse welfare i hate that i hate the government for allowing it.

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>>133374711

>letting money and the way it flows around rule your civilization

libertarians should be used for their social standing and then gassed. Letting a few giant monopolies rule the world (which is what would always happen, eventually, if left unchecked) isn't exactly a step in the right direction. Let's go with an extreme version of status-quo! Aren't those nazis retarded?? Free kekistan!

>>133374412

Libertarian National Socialist Green Party.

Lol.

Immigration is an environmental issue b/c of population, and Anthropogenic Climate change is total cult bullshit.

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There is little to no common ground with libertarians with any self-respecting white man as they are psychopathic Jews.

Libertarians don't care about morals.
Libertarians don't care about community.
Libertarians don't care about art.
Libertarians don't care about culture.

All libertarians care about is their property and profit. That's it. In their opinions, there should be no consideration of morality, no concern for the people, no value placed upon anything that does not profit them.

Libertarians argue using their own definitions. That they've learned with their own dictionaries, and they will slander you for not using their rhetoric. They will label anyone who doesn't agree with them as a "statist", which is nothing more than a strawman. And if you disagree with them on any point, for any reason, they will declare that surely you must carry all of these characteristics. This has happened every time anyone have tried to debate them.

Libertarians argue like Jews. They hide behind concepts that they refuse to define clearly, like "natural law" or "the non-aggression principle", and they constantly bring these up (while refusing to say what they actually mean) as a shield against any criticism. And they will constantly deny doing so. When proven wrong on something, inescapably, they will later declare that they remember winning the argument. In fact, they adhere so closely to Adolf Hitler's description of his experience debating with Jews, that it is almost uncanny, and it's really not surprising that so many of the most influential libertarian thinkers were Jewish themselves.

Libertarianism is a Jewish cancer that is diametrically opposed to the well being of European peoples or the nation state. It lets banks and corporations run amok, destroying the country under the guise of "freedom", while also letting tons of degeneracy go unchecked under the guise of "freedom"

It is controlled opposition to left-socialism.

>>133384273
>Letting a few giant monopolies rule the world


isn't natsoc just having once giant monopoly rule the world?

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>>133381901
kek, saved

>>133382323
>no (((democratic))) representation
This is so shitskins and kikes don't vote away your rights

>Heavy government regulations on manufacturing and trading of goods?
I can't say anything about this atm

>Regulations regarding what one can and cannot personally own?
[citation needed]

>Mandatory service in the state military
Probably to actually defend their country from kikes? (as opposed to the neocon/Vietnam draft)

>>133376490
isn't blaming every single one of your problems on some shadowy cabal of supervillains what ancaps do?

>>133374412
Would make sense, libertardians and cuckservatards would love to be friends with authoritarian fucks. They LOVE authority. Look how they love to have daddy Trump and GOP do things to abuse people. Look at how they love cops abusing people....

And no, fuck the Democrats too, I don't think they are any better.

>>133384552
Nationalism != Globalism.

>>133384551

its not that we dont care about morals its that we disagree with legislating morality.

its not that we dont care about community its that we care about our own community and dont want to be forced to fund someone else's.

i dont really care about art thats true.

culture is self creating. every society has and will create culture because humans crave it.


natsoc is the same "i know whats good for you" bullshit that keeps failing over and over again. libertarians have two requirements: 1) let me live my life my way and 2) stay off my fucking lawn.

>>133384822

the only true national socialist country literally tried to take over everything they could touch and expand as rapidly as possible.

>>133383528
Hate is the only true fuel what can push someone into action. They still didn't learned this, now why should I be the one who lends them a helping hand. Denying it will make you a weakling, an useful idiot. I learned this on my own skin.

For example: what do you feel about the people who are raped and/or killed in sweden despite holding a refugees welcome sign.
Do you really want to save them? Do you feel sympathy them? Or tweet a shitty lets pray for XY despite you don't have a fucking clue how to even pray or you have never been in a goddamn church or you are an atheist fucktard, and sigh that you done your part? They are your kind, you should.

Remeber these are these people, who will be the first to beg for help when things go wrong. Always the first.

>>133385011
>failing over and over again
>tried once
>instantly thrives
>takes US, UK, and USSR to (((shut it down)))
>failure

The memes write themselves
its not that we dont care about morals its that we disagree with legislating morality

see:>>133384595

>>133385011
NatSoc doesn't need to be up your ass though. That's why the alliance would be good. Value of the individual is just what Naziism needs and the ability to act as a collective when necessary for the benefit of the collective against other hostile collectives is just what Libertarians need.

>>133384705
You are not very smart.

>>133384552
LOL

You fell for the meme that the evil nazis wanted to rule the world

(((Libertarians))) are enemies of the white race

>>133383109
I believe in property rights of the members of my folk, though there are conditions. Subversive/treasonous actions against the interests of our kin (as in, for example, using your property to push drugs into our nation), would forsake your rights.

Foreigners would not have property rights unless they were specificially granted to the foreigner by the state. This is in order to prevent foreign actors from for example, buying a shitton of land and property from our territory for their own gain and to the detriment of our folk.

>>133385183
Germany was breaking out from under the Treaty of Versailles. They had no choice but to take over a defensible area because everyone else was intent on dogpiling them - which they did.

Outside of that awful situation NatSoc might not have become the worst of itself.

>>133385191
I understand where you are coming from, my point was that without influence, monetary or political, the individual who does not want to fuel these self destructive groups is forced through taxes which fuel the welfare state, but yeau I agree with you

Anarchism-communism >>>>> communism >>>>>>>>>> libertarian >>>>>>>>>>> nazi

>>133385364
>instantly thrives
It really didn't. The Nazi economy was an implosion waiting to happen, there is a reason Hitler was so desperate for war.

>>133382904
Neither should you work for schlomo that inherited billions of shares from his grandfather and only get what he accepts to give you so you keep setting the alarm every morning.

Join the anarchists, now!

>>133386015
Gee, I wonder if the entire rest of the world being at financial war with them was anything to do with that.

>>133385364
>instantly thrives
>disappears forever in less than a generation

maybe you should have spent time reading the turner diaries and more time reading psalms.

Senseless people do not know,
fools do not understand,
that though the wicked spring up like grass
and all evildoers flourish,
they will be destroyed forever.

The righteous will flourish like a palm tree,
they will grow like a cedar of Lebanon;
planted in the house of the Lord,
they will flourish in the courts of our God.
They will still bear fruit in old age,
they will stay fresh and green.


and while "natsoc" was only one good attempt... the whole "i know whats good for you" authoritarian style of government is whats tried and failed over and over.


>>133385492
where would that have stopped?

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>>133384551
>Libertarians don't care about morals.
>Libertarians don't care about community.
>Libertarians don't care about art.
>Libertarians don't care about culture.
>That's it. In their opinions, there should be no consideration of morality, no concern for the people, no value placed upon anything that does not profit them.
>while refusing to say what they actually mean
tfw when you didn't read a fuck about libertarianism but you saw a post about Ayn Rand and think you have been informed enough
> It lets banks and corporations run amok, destroying the country under the guise of "freedom"
tfw when you also don't know fuck about economics.

Oh, and good image there. Putting Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard together makes a lot of sense

>>133386171
>*spent less time reading the turner diaries

>>133384595
>This is so shitskins and kikes don't vote away your rights
Because if anyone loves protecting the rights of the common man it is entrenched elites accountable to nobody.

>[citation needed]
Eg. firearms


>Probably to actually defend their country from kikes? (as opposed to the neocon/Vietnam draft)
If the country is shitty enough that people would rather see their nation fall than to kill and possibly die defending it maybe it deserves to fall. I'm currently in the military, armoured cavalry, and I fucking love the military but nothing is more detestable than a country that will force its citizens to die protecting a concept they hate.

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Hey Natsocs, just letting you know that Ancaps can be pro-white.

Throwback to when Hans Hermann Hoppe OPENLY invited Jared Taylor and Richard Lynn to his conference. Bald guy is the 2nd or 3rd most important Ancap theoretician alive today.

https://vimeo.com/86857165

>>133385432
What if i'm told by some guy that the collective
need the whole Europe so i have to kill slavic untermenschs and end up my ass dead frozen in Stalingrad ?

Definitivly worth losing my liberty.

>>133374412
It can happen if Libertarians agree to the NAP for WHITE PEOPLE and a border, and if NatSocs don't go too hard into the personal lives of their people.

>>133385364
>takes US, UK, and USSR to (((shut it down)))

Let me guess: they went to war because they were envious, Hitler was a man of peace.

And If we overlook the fact that the German army and economy was almost completely destroyed and the country was split between conquering powers, then NatSoc was quite successful

Right?

>>133386370
also the collective says you cant read this books or listen to this music. but dont worry "you hate art and culture" anyways

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>>133386015
>It really didn't.
Except it did, retard.
The economy was fucking taking off at light speed before the kikes started a war with them.

>>133386133
You dumb nigger, learn the fucking history of your retarded party. Hitler was mad at the treaty of Versailles and wanted revenge. Don't act like nazi didn't want to go to war at anytime and was building shitton of planes, tanks and rifles for fun.

>>133386133
Yep clearly everyone just hated Germany, that's why Britain and France were so determined to maintain the treaty of Versailles and invaded Germany when they started rebuilding their military.
>Rebuild the German army
>Reoccupy DMZ
>Annex Austria
>Annex Sudetenland
>Annex the rest of Czechoslovakia
>Annex Memel
>Allies do nothing

>Invade Poland when they refuse to bend to your will
>Allies declare war on you
>Oh my god fucking kikes and Anglos ruining our innocent German state of peace and love, this was really our last territorial demand.

>>133374769
autism

>>133374412

Never. Fuck authoritarians.

>>133384551
this.

ancap is for gullible burgers that want to be edgy, but natsoc is too scary for them, so they just go on and jack off to the kike pinochet and helicopter memes.

>>133375452
That armpit is so hypnotizing...

>>133378303
It's not a jewish conspiracy. It's just jewish nature. Like violent nignogs.

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>>133374711
this, its called self defence

>>133386502
>The economy was fucking taking off at light speed before the kikes started a war with them.
>the kikes started a war with them.
>September 1st 1939 Germany invaded Poland
>September 3rd UK and France declare war on Germany
>Germany proceeds to declare war on and invade Luxembourg, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, and the USSR
I don't get how retards can keep pushing the idea that anyone except Germany start the war.

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>>133386502
Yeah, increasing spending on military industry and indebting the country once again. Militar keynesianism, you fucking asshole

>>133386370
Help release the pressure before there's an explosion. Quit being so afraid of an explosion that you keep any steam from escaping.

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>>133385011
>its not that we dont care about morals its that we disagree with legislating morality.

Actually when you push libertarians hard enough, you'll see that they do. Even the CATO institute released this recently:

https://twitter.com/CatoInstitute/status/880713024650305540
>It is not enough to be passively "not racist" — libertarians must be actively anti-racism.

And Gary Johnson supported the whole "gay cakes" drama. Their morals usually just happen to be one of selfishness and greed, or aligned with leftists. Ayn (((Rand))) even said any system based on altruist morality are "socialism".

>ts that we care about our own community
No, that's what NatSoc does. Libertarians think the concept of "community" is "collectivist" and needs to be destroyed, and should be replaced by pure individualism and nothing else. Caring about your race, culture, nation is "collectivist" and should be discouraged, this is what a lot of libertarians think.

>culture is self creating. every society has and will create culture because humans crave it.
Nope, culture doesn't come out of thin air. It needs the right conditions, minds, people and values behind it to flourish.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/culture-etched-onto-our-dna-more-than-previously-known-research-says/
>Culture etched on our DNA more than previously known, research suggests

>natsoc is the same "i know whats good for you" bullshit that keeps failing over and over again
Except libertarianism is exactly like that, except instead of letting people who actually care about their culture, race, community, etc. do it, you're letting megacorps, banks, and the mass media (that are all owned by the same people and never have your well-being in mind) do it

Libertarians are completely bluepilled about the JQ or race question, and they think letting huge powerful entities that often have more power than the state and will take any opportunity to curtail your freedom (see: TPP) do whatever they want is somehow "freedom"

>>133386950
A principle you're willing to violate isn't a principle.

>>133374412
Never.
The Neo Nazi Stormfag scum on this board only PRETENDS we are with them. But none of us will ever accept statism

>>133386335
>Because if anyone loves protecting the rights of the common man it is entrenched elites accountable to nobody.
I remember when I was like this. I thought that authority was always corrupt. It isn't. It's just that kikes love to sneak into authority to corrupt all.

>Eg. firearms
I'm pretty sure Hitler encouraged private ownership (at least for ethnic non-kike Germans)

>>133386335
>I'm currently in the military
Of course lmao I should have seen this earlier.


>>133386453
It was destroyed because they were fighting forces that vastly outnumbered them.

>>133386630
>Invade Poland when they refuse to bend to your will
When will this meme end? He invaded it to stop the slaughter of ethnic Germans.

>>133387014
Nonsense debt only exists in a democratic country silly untermensch. If you want to avoid debt you need a strong authoritarian government to draft you into the army and send you to fight the untermensch.

>>133385655
You will laugh at this but I still understand: why the fuck not enslave them or deport asap?

Lets see how a typical counter argument would look like against it.
>muh human rights
They have the right to be a humble, hard working good people too.
>muh ghetto influence
again they had the right to choose a long long long time ago, why they didn't, why they are criminals who legit steal money but in a legal way?
>they were poor thats what pushed them
About poorness- my great great grandma was a noblewoman, but married a peasant guy, they became poor. Should I start now WE WUZ-ing?
>you just can't understand them
So I should take on a crusader armor and flag yelling deus vult and start murdering, and when asked why I did it I would say its a religion thing, don't judge me, with a smug face.

>>133375030
Civilians get to keep their guns!

>>133387175
If you want to read Hoppe, read it fully.

That's true in a HEREDITARY government who thinks only in itself.

>>133387159
>Of course lmao I should have seen this earlier.
Ironic isn't it? The one who supports conscription refuses to serve in the military willingly and the one who opposes conscription is willing to serve in the military without compulsion.

>He invaded it to stop the slaughter of ethnic Germans.
No he didn't.

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>>133387058
>CATO institute
>Gary Johnson
>TPP
You are sou laughable. This wouldn't happen if you just read libertarians authors instead of post on twitter or fb or threads on /pol/.
>Libertarians think the concept of "community" is "collectivist"
Wrong. Just fucking read.

>>133387453
>fighting for the kikes
Please. I would happily enlist if it meant destroying commie and jew scum instead of taking oil and poppy fields from goatfuckers.

>No he didn't.
brb finding sources, in the meanwhile try to prove this guy wrong :>>133387058

>>133387159
Haha you think no white man would want to fuck you in order to get money. Ever heard of industrial revolution in the UK and kids working in coal mine ? Strike breaker ?

What a faggot you are

>>133374412
How can capitalists and communists create an alliance? This is oxymoron. Nazis keep trying to push their nonresidential towards Libertarianism.

The ideas of Libertarianism means if someone who by merits and rights, work their way up, whoever they are, then they deserve it.

Nazis kicked and robbed Jews for being rich and greedy. Which is their right. They can be rich and greedy.

You are just like Marxists. "Oooooh, the rich people are oppressing us by their meritocracy!"

And if you want a state border even after abolition of tax, you are not really Libertarian. I agree that as long as we are being tax, a bordered state is the right of all taxed inhabitants.
No Tax and Border doesn't add up.

KYS.

>>133387058
>Nope, culture doesn't come out of thin air. It needs the right conditions, minds, people and values behind it to flourish.

This is why attending to this can actually be the most libertarian way to be

>>133387810
You want a source that gonna prove you wrong ?
It's called Mein Kampf you dumb nigger

>What is Lebensraum
>What is Drang Nach Osten

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>>133386951
>I don't get how retards can keep pushing the idea that anyone except Germany start the war.

The USSR invaded Poland around the same time as Germany, there's only one countryFrance & the UK declared war on for it though. Hint: they didn't declare war on Russia or the USSR.

England and France made a contract to start a war if Germany attacked Poland, but not if the USSR did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Polish_military_alliance

Then shortly after they baited Hitler to attack them by torturing and killing ethnic Germans that were still in their territory. Their kike-controlled governments used this as an excuse to destroy Germany.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSLy5qn7q7c

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VQL2D3uBvSI
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Djk8oqLrrAY

http://jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm

Reminder that France and England were the ones who officially declared war and started the whole thing, not Germany. They did it because they were a threat to their hegemony over Europe, and a threat to the international financial system.

>>133387253
Kek, you were right it was a good laugh
Its quite easy to dispel the usual emotional driven talking points of the regressive crowd when their guilt bait fails, but it never fails to surprise me how no one brings how they,the welfare queens, have personal agency as anyone else, I guess the pro refugees crowd believe that these are inept failed humans incapable of owning their lifes that are pouring in by the thousands.

>>133387810
>Please. I would happily enlist if it meant destroying commie and jew scum instead of taking oil and poppy fields from goatfuckers.
And who is to say when a war is just? Why should I be forced to die for a cause I oppose? You support conscription and assume that the country that has conscription will only fight in wars you support. The common flaw of the statist is they assume that the state will only do what they like.

What happens when fascist America decides to invade Canada for land and resources? Would you kill white men simply defending their country? What about if America started supporting China over European countries for practical reasons? Remember Germany was allied with Japan who carried out war crimes against whites and fully intended to annex colonies of white nations.

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>>133388273

>>133384551
Guess what? All those protections for the Jewish owned banks will disappear to. The rest of us will be able to compete.

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>>133388011

Naziism was anticommunist. It took the wind out of the sails of the commies by being collectivist enough without being full on communist.

Were all the Jews killed/mistreated worthy of it. certainly not. Likely the ones killed were the more innocent ones whereas the ones with the means escaped.

But if your arm is caught under a boulder, and you will die, you can choose to hack it off with a jack knife and survive ( maybe ).

>>133388491
JFK's quote isn't even in favour of Hitler, just that he was a significant historical figure, which is objectively true.

>>133388130
>The USSR invaded Poland around the same time as Germany, there's only one countryFrance & the UK declared war on for it though. Hint: they didn't declare war on Russia or the USSR.
Because the USSR wasn't constantly negotiating with the allies and breaking its word you retard.

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>>133374637
you're viewing the term socialist wrong. national socialists reject marx in all forms, socialist refers more to socialization. "If you love your nation you're a nationalist
If you love your people you are a socialist."

natsoc, economically, is nothing like socialism. you still have to work, and all work is not equal, and there's still property rights. none of this own the means of production crap.

>>133383674
That just seems like rhetoric. "Serving the common good without giving up [ones] individuality"

Assuming socialism confiscates individuals' wealth to redistribute to others, it too is anti-property, and in this sense, no different to Marxian Socialism.

Don't get me wrong, I like parts of what he is saying; I enjoy the idea of one's self-interests being in consonance with those of the community.

But it begs the question: to what extent are people allowed to further their own interests before their property is seized by the state,
This cannot be answered, and that is what concerns me about socialism.

>>133388491

>Nazis economy is something revolutionary who would have destroyed kikery and capitalism
>Actually it was just a state planified economy which purpose was to build tanks in order to invade Poland and take the Lebensraum at the expense of slavic Untermensches.

>>133389082
>If you love your people you are a socialist
>If you love your people you have to be forced to aid them
Really makes me think

You people have it all wrong...

You dont need an alliance of any of the various right wing groups....

You all just have to be anti left.... the common enemy is what unites, not the common idology... the left learned this long ago which is why the right has LOST for the past 60 years

>>133374412
If you had a clue what those ideologies are about, you'd know that those two are incompatible.

>>133377896
no, your laissez faire free markets will allow jews back in. and we're back to square one.

>>133389547
National libertarianism, kick out the Jews and don't let them back in.

>>133389341
>your people
this is the stupidest logic. first off, my people are smart enough to fend for themselves. secondly, I love my people enough not to give them everything they think they deserve.

>>133389176
Someone is going to seize your property - probably by means of a state. If you don't have a state that will protect your country from people that want to do this, then ALL your property will be taken.

How do you get a state that will protect your country from this?

You need to have people care for your country and its state. This means people - all sorts of people - need to benefit from the existence of that state sufficiently that they support it. This means paying them. This means you accept some taking from this state to prevent worse taking. It's ultimately protection money.

You want as little of this as possible - understandable, but you want to to cultivate an environment where the state that arises is one that will take as little as possible from you.

The optimum ( Nationalism and Socialism - paying for it ) is what you should strive for.

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>>133389547
>we trust you on borders and ethno-nationalism
Duh.

>>133389726
they'll find a way back in as long as the markets are 100% free. I'm open to the idea, but you at least need to let us at least control the banks

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>>133388882

JFK admired Hitler, and his father even said this:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-kennedys-answer-to-the-jewish-question-ship-them-to-africa
>Joe Kennedy’s Answer to the ‘Jewish Question’: Ship Them to Africa

https://johndenugent.com/english/english-the-jewish-war-on-the-kennedys/
>“We [meaning patriotic non-Jews] lost World War Two, and the Jews won.”

Jews killed JFK, just like they did with Hitler because both of them got in their way.

>>133389209

Keep telling yourself that.

>Rodney Martin - The Economic Plan of the NSDAP
https://youtu.be/pKnFN8P21-0

>German Economic Miracle of the 1930's
https://youtu.be/YkenkfRTn4c

>Hitler's Economic Reform:
https://youtu.be/_r9Z-hTn1r4

http://www.worldcat.org/wcpa/servlet/DCARead?standardNo=0300103026&standardNoType=1&excerpt=true
>In the fifteen years that have followed this resolve he has succeeded in restoring Germany to the most powerful position in Europe, and not only has he restored the position of his country, but he has even, to a very large extent, reversed the results of the Great War.... [Now] the vanquished are in process of becoming the victors, and the victors the vanquished. When Hitler began, Germany lay prostrate at the feet of the Allies. He may yet see the day when what is left of Europe will be prostrate at the feet of Germany. Whatever else may be thought about these exploits, they are certainly among the most remarkable in the whole history of the world.
- Winston Churchill, 1935

>>133389811
>my people are smart enough to fend for themselves.
Then why have sweeping social programs and military conscription?

>>133390061
>I'm open to the idea, but you at least need to let us at least control the banks
>You can't keep out the Jews goyim, you need to let us control the banks

>>133390080
>JFK admired Hitler, his father said X
>My father said positive things about George W Bush, doesn't mean I support him.

>>133390219
>Just let us do whatever we want goyim, what could go wrong?

>>133390096
>social programs
Like "Arbeit Macht Frei"?
That the kind of social programs we like.

>>133390219
>nazis are jews
lmao

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>>133379005
Wait? I thought liberals LOVED jews since you know they are a minority and suffer under evil white racism? But then again lolbertarians also all believe that if only niggerized cities like Detroit would kick out the unions then capitalism/communism would thrive and the niggers would all pull up their pants, stop stealing and go out get jobs and become upstanding model ciitzens overnight
they are the same thing like a Sprite and a 7up. Not much different, the same exact things happen only be a different means or one that pretends to be but then again you are likely the type that permits others to think for you so it's no shock that you are yet another "-ismist"(I swear lady, there is a clone of you in EVERY thread on the internet)
Oh and #OpenBordersForIsrael
If you like them MOVE THERE AND PAY TAXES TO LIVE THERE! But don't expect me to NOT vandalize more and more jewish haunts as time goes on. Not a Hitler fan (or hater either) but he was WAY more anti-commie that some "Lefty-lolobertarins socialist" or what ever Saturday morning fun clubs facebook age you robotically shared that picture from.

>>133390454
>That the kind of social programs we like.
And the various social programs under Nazi Germany.
>Nazis are Jews
Well they did start a war that resulted in 20 million dead Russians, 8 million dead Germans, and tens of millions more dead Europeans.

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>>133390061
Idk who controls the banks. If someone want to be successful in business, they will do what all people do, jewish or aryan.
But if expel jews out of banks makes you happy, ok with that.

>>133390608
They started what might have been a small war because they were being abused. They offered peace, and the powers of Europe ( frightened to be sure ) did not dare believe Hitler.

Seeing the signals, Hitler did not dare wait for his impending doom, and took a more defensible bit of land.

And if FDR wasn't a commie, and stayed out of the war, then he would have won.

>>133374412
I'm down with an alliance. Take down the left and then worry about the political divisions on the right, I say.
NatSoc and Libertarians fighting about politics is like a construction worker freaking out that the bathrooms on the tenth floor of a commercial residence that isn't built yet are not up to code.
Lets at least get the foundation dug before we let the tenth floor bathrooms hinder our progress, eh?

>>133377578
>I don't know what temporary means

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>>133374412
>libertarian(jews) alliance with natsoc
fuck off shlomo

>>133391156
I think what the Nazi is trying to say is that No true Scotsman would put sugar on his porridge .

I'm curious, how many now natsoc are ex libertarian?

>>133374412
It's always been there.

>>133391481
I'm a libertarian who flirted with the NatSoc idea before spitting it out. Mostly because the people in the community bullied me for not being fully white and wanted to take away my music and vidya.

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>>133387746
>hhhhuuurrrr the Libertarian Party and some of the biggest libertarian organizations don't represent libertarianism

Maybe the rank and file libertarians don't want some of this or open borders, but their opinion means nothing. The shot callers who control libertarian candidates and think tanks want cheap labor, they want constant floods of foreign nationals, whether they come illegally or not. They want to use migrants to effect racial displacement of the founding stock of Western countries. There's no separating "libertarianism" from the aims and goals of the people controlling its official organs.

Coincidentally(?), the creators of this ideology are all Jews like Ayn Rand, Ludwig von Mises, Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman, Murray Rothbard, Lew Rockwell, Walter Block, etc. and we're seeing its true colors because of this. Caring more about opposing white ethnic interests and supporting white displacement than "liberty".

Libertarians also keep pushing this meme that Germany had no property rights or gun rights, which is just bullshit.

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>>133391481
I still am an advocate of Libertarian Philosophy, however the NatSoc seem more energized and resolved towards action, so that's my team atm

>>133392205
Kek, great one

>>133391759
> Take away music and vidya

This is why NatSoc needs you.

> Not fully white

All races should be racist. Whites need to repair their racism circuit so they can survive as a race.

http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html

It's not healthy ( or really possible ) to have this circuit disabled completely.

Whites are still (barely) a majority in the US. The first reaction to realizing this and also that every other race has a healthy functioning racism organ is panic or denial. Until our existence is secured, that's how it's going to be.

The only way to mitigate this panic and fear is to end the threat. Changing demographics is threat. So until policy is enacted that will stop the changing demographics whites need to be more racist - not less.

The alternative is actually war of some kind. You should work to make Nationalism mean/be less about race and more about the CURRENT people of the country. Attempt to alter the demographics at your peril.

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>>133392152
>hhhhuuurrrr the Libertarian Party and some of the biggest libertarian organizations don't represent libertarianism
Cuz they don't its simple

>Milton Friedman
Kek

All of the authors you mention in the second paragraph are against all you say in the first paragraph. Even you admit that real libertarians don't want it, so you are contradicting yourself.

I suggest you again: read libertarian authors, no lefty pseudo-libertarian shit.

>>133374412
Its already there.

The attack plan is to let the falcons carry rattlesnek into battle so the snakes can strike and then get air lifted out

>>133374412
Why? Libertarians are only Libertarans because of the convenience of the ideology. It has no serious answers for tough times.

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>>133374412
Only if traditionalist monarchists can join too

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>>133392495
Feel free to take it.

>>133393960
Will do anon

That's just fucking retarded. Jews are the boogeyman. Nazis hate Jews because they engage in shit AnCaps shouldn't think is remotely criminal, eg interest, price gouging. Really, what do Natsocs have? They don't even have the Bell Curve.

Even if NatSocs threw all the lefties out of helicopters, it's still retarded ass socialism. Great, the bathrooms aren't "degenerate" but there's no toilet paper. There welfare state is going broke, but at least there aren't any niggers or illegals! There's massive inflation but at least it ain't the Jews charging interest. Even if you're white pride world wide, socialism doesn't work and has nothing to offer.

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>>133392698
I already know what'll happen when whites are pushed into the 25% minority and begin to die out for real. I still have faith in Trump that he can close our borders for real and somehow provide breeding incentives for whites so we can avoid a potential bloodbath, but I'm still worried. Especially since there's a good chance I'll be targeted by RWDS for my Jewish DNA if they ever arise, which sucks because I really wanted to help them out too, in a nonviolent way of course. Either way I think our prospects still look better here in America than in western Europe, which is more or less doomed.

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LET'S DO IT BOYS

REV UP THE HELICOPTERS
THE COMMIES NEED A RIDE

>>133394448
>welfare state
>nazi
Pick one.
Hitler had no place for lazy niggers.

>massive inflation
[citation needed]

libertarian and communists are the same horseshoe as they both hate identity politics and both imagine some end utopia of no governments and no longer being oppressed.

>>133394675
we shall see. In the meantime we can work together against our common enemy. The left.

>>133394448
faggot, read through the thread or get out.

nat soc =/= socialism

>>133394675
Holy shit you're on to something. I need to make an infograph out of this.

>>133393682
why not

>>133374412
Both are misbegotten children of Liberalism
Divine Right of Kings WHEN

>>133375452
Can someone tell me what the flag/emblem in the bottom left of the picture means? is it white power?

>>133394448
Labor protectionism is (Non-Marxian) socialism. Shaping society for the better (possibly by working to make people more able to be self reliant through education for example ) while preserving the need for personal initiative to take advantage is Non-Marxian socialism.

Non-Marxian socialism is redistributive, but in ways that shape society for the benefit of all where that can mean to minimize the need for it, to increase robustness of the economy, by building infrastructure etc.

It's not looking to create a Marxian Communist utopia, but to make membership in a nation mean something worthwhile. It's working together for common goals were this makes sense - and it does at times.

>>133395062
no that sign means"Niggers welcome"

>>133394675
>authoritarian left = libertarian right
That's not how the political compass works.

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HAHAHAHAHA

CAN'T WAIT TO KILL YOU SOULLESS BOOTLICKING MULES

>>133394675
They do it to us, its fair to do this to them. Ancaps/libertarians (unlike us) refuse to admit they have leftist social views. We admit we have aspects of socialism.

>>133395652
I'll help you out because you're new here.
Commies are always whining about their end goal of a "stateless" utopia.
Always.
Of course, because communism doesn't work, they never make it past the authoritarian stage before collapse. Not that the kikes in charge would surrender their power anyway kek

>>133394654
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program#The_25-point_Program_of_the_NSDAP

>citation needed
What in the fuck did Zimbabwe do wrong? Or Venezuela?

>>133376116
underrated post

>>133384551
Libertarians don't care about morals.

the NAP (=nonaggression principle) is the highest form of morals.

>>133388011
>Nazis kicked and robbed Jews for being rich and greedy. Which is their right. They can be rich and greedy.

Don't be fooled by these clowns, they are as greedy as King Midas. The truly separating factor here is work ethics: the rich entrepeneurs want to get rich by providing services to society, while the leftists rabble rousers want to get rich by robbing the wealthy

>>133396269
All I ever hear commies talking about is policing people's speech, thought, possessions, property, etc. They can't get enough of their authoritarian government fantasies. Which is why libertarians hate them so much.

>>133374942
So you enjoy taking disgusting medicines? You like hanging out with that one family member or friend that makes you want to kill yourself every time they speak? You enjoy being this retarded?

National Socialism is dead, you skinhead retards have been riding our waves for years now.

>>133396720
Literally just proved his point lmao

>>133397047
Yes I agree, but if you actually try to sit down and have a peaceful discussion (do not attempt), you'll find that they ,or at least a lot of them, really want a stateless commune.

>>133378764
Pinochet did

>>133376126
Natsoc is not a socialism in economic point of view. natsoc can be combined with capitalism, not libertarianism, due to natsoc dependance on strong leader, authority, restrictions in business if it would be against interests of the state/nation. So, natsoc+libert. can not work and should not.

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>>133374412
Literally Anticom.

>>133390521
liberals hate israel

>>133379186
>private
>volunteers
>hired by state
How do you function