If you support net neutrality, you are a simpleminded buffoon.

>>133373196
Great record

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>>133373196
>Could you imagine a world without net neutrality?

Yeah, we're living it. Sell your volcano insurance to someone else. All the commie multinational corporations like google, facebook and lefty meme sites like reddit are it's main supporters. Yes, commies, tell me more about how you're going to "save me" from something that doesn't exist. Please, go ahead and take my internet - I trust you reddit.

So pissed off at this fucking flaming faggotry that I want to kill myself

>>133373196
you are an uneducated faggot. your loss

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>>133373760
>you are uneducated

Roughly translated from globalist memespeak, this means, "You are not a communist shitlicker, fuck you. Get back in the bucket with the rest of the boiling crabs"

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S H O P P I N G
WERE SHOPPING

>>133373760
>EU flag
I don't trust you, commie.

Great album, at the time I didn't think they were gay, just British.

>>133373196
>I want ISP companies fucking my boipussy meanwhile they censor 4chan :^)

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I WANT THE FCC TO TAKE CONTROL OF INTERNET CONTENT AND MAKE SURE I'M PROTECTED FROM HAVING WRONG THOUGHTS

ITT idiots that don't realize the net worked just fine before muh nut neutrality government meddling.

best track is King's Cross

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>>133374371
Net Neutrality doesn't exist and never has. If ISP's wanted to do things like "throttle or remove 4chan", and other dumb shit like that - then they can, as there is literally nothing stopping them from doing so. You know who does that kind of thing with alarming regularity? Multinational corporations like Google & Facebook, who also acquiesce censorship requests from dictatorships to conceal information on government networks. All of these corporations and their meme subsidiaries and butt buddies are huge supporters of "net neutrality".

Daily reminder that at the end of his second term, Obama handed ICANN to the United Nations.

>>133373196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K88BU3kjZ-c

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>>133375200
>totalbiscuit ass cancer
>i'm here to talk shit out of my ass for 20 minutes about censorship
>comments disabled

nice meme

see above: >>133374763

>>133374763
>butthurt that the internet isn't US owned anymore
get fucked americunt the USA is going down

I think Crowder's video on this is actually pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cLWgTIsMLM

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>>133373196
>Check the catalog before posting a new thread!

>Reply to existing threads about a topic instead of starting a new one. Mods will delete obvious duplicate threads and spam without notice.

>>132533011

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>>133375569
>proud that internet infrastructure is held by a communist meme

are you one of those toilet cleaners i keep hearing about?

>>133373196
Not an argument kike. I will not be buying your "internet packages" either.

>>133373582
funny that you say this on a site that simply could not exit without it

>>133374427
that's the exact opposite of what NN is gentle falseflagger

> ITT good goys who want worse streaming for more money

GOOD GOYS

PAY MORE NEET BUX

DON'T WORRY, FACEBOOK ACCESS WILL STILL BE FREE

>>133374371
>I want government bent on pushing degeneracy and propaganda fucking my genderqueerfluidbicockpussy, and you all should have to too! :-))))))^*`

>>133376206
go away nigger

>>133376478
not an argument

>>133376404
if Jews wanted to control us with no net neutrality, wouldn't they shill against net neutrality? I've seen nothing but companies shilling FOR it which is pretty fucking odd
GOOD GOY
LET THE GOVERNMENT TAKE CARE OF THE INTERNET

>>133376206
is this some kind of big bang theory-esque paradox?

>>133373196
What are you talking about? Before Title II was implemented in 2015 the internet was LITERALLY HITLER.
>2014
>be me
>wanting to sh*tpost on /pol/ (bad words were a no no)
>call my ISP and ask them to unlock my wifi
>$9.99 has been deducted from your checking account (ISPs had access to your finances back then)
>sit down and put $1 of quarters in my PC to boot it up
>open Firefox
>you are accessing the internet. Proceeding past this point will result in a $4.99 non refundable security deposit. Do you wish to proceed?
>y-yes
>decide to check the news first
>try to go to RT
>do you agree to the $4.99 charge
>yes
>get redirected to MSNBC
>charged $9.99 instead
>hit the back button
>charged another $4.99 for trying to access RT
>redirected back to MSNBC for another $9.99
>read the headlines so I don't get charged $.99 a click
>try to go to /pol/
>$12.99 charge for viewing controversial content
>jk, the liberals are blocking it today and I just lost more money
>turn off my PC
>sit down on my couch to watch Netflix
>try to watch Passion of the Christ
>the liberals are blocking it
>SWAT team raids my house for viewing anti-semitic content
Such was life back then. We can't go back to those days.

>>133373196
I'll stop supporting net neutrality when regional monopolies on internet service aren't a thing.

>>133376828
where else could you find a group of people so vehemently against free speech on a website built on the concept of upholding it?

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>>133377030
you implied 4chan couldn't exist without net neutrality. But here's the thing, net neutrality doesn't exist - it is merely a proposal

kys jew slimeball

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>>133373196
I'll be honest, I'm not sure who I distrust more:
>the people supporting net neutrality (google, reddit, etc)
>ISPs with regional monopolies on service
I'm having a hard time finding information on the subject from non-biased sources, I really have no idea what to think about this one.

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>>133376847

Kek.

>people will start talking to each other at dinner again
>people will go out and watch movies again
>people will buy and read the PAPER newspapers again
>people will go to libraries to read real books again
>people will buy at and support their local grocery stores again instead of multinational companies filled with chinks
>people will stop watching porn online and browse degenerate websites that dulls the mind like 4chan/reddit/any other shitty blog

Tell me why I should be for Net Neutrality.

if you're wondering what ISPs will do if net neutrality is repealed, we already know.

2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it. https://www.cnet.com/news/telco-agrees-to-stop-blocking-voip-calls/

2005 - Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers.

2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. http://fortune.com/2009/04/03/group-asks-fcc-to-probe-iphone-skype-restrictions/

2011 - MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except youtube. https://www.wired.com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality-challenge/

2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit. http://www.businessinsider.com/verizon-blocking-google-wallet-2011-12

2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/fcc-fines-verizon-125m-for-blocking-tethering-apps/2012/07/31/gJQAXjRLNX_blog.html

2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money. https://www.freepress.net/press-release/99480/att-blocking-iphones-facetime-app-would-harm-consumers-and-break-net-neutrality

2013, Verizon literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place. https://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2013/09/18/verizons-plan-break-internet

>>133378152

>https://wired com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality-challenge
https://archive.is/LwLMM
>http://businessinsider com/verizon-blocking-google-wallet-2011-12
https://archive.is/YlqZs
>https://washingtonpost com/blogs/post-tech/post/fcc-fines-verizon-125m-for-blocking-tethering-apps/2012/07/31/gJQAXjRLNX_blog.html
https://archive.is/MzqNt

>>133376888
That's thanks to government regulations as well. The new regulations are to negate the regulations they already have in place.

>>133378211
>The use of scrapers, bots, or other automated posting or downloading scripts is prohibited. Users may also not post from proxies, VPNs, or Tor exit nodes.

http://www.4chan.org/rules#global14

As much as I am against the government having more say in what the ISPs can and cannot do, I am still for net neutrality.

With ISPs having regional monopolies parts of the country, and with a history as this post details >>133378152 , I simply can't trust that ISPs have it out for my best interests.

If ISPs didn't have a monopoly I would be against net neutrality.

>>133377472
This so much. I have no clue on the issue and every source is biased. One argument is that people want netflix etc to pay their "fair share" the cost of the das they use, but doesn't NN mandate that they pay a consistent amount anyway? Comcast is allowed to jack up prices, just not jack up Netflix's price per bit per sec more than any other company. What is wrong with that? Honest question.

>>133373196
y-you too

Test

I support the protest. Tell me where to sign.
here? https://www.battleforthenet.com/july12/ https://www.fightforthefuture.org/

stay free and fat

>>133377814
we kinda do all that stuff anyways

>>133373196
>Max Capacity
>160 Tbps
B-BUT THINK ABOUT CORPORATIONS!! PEOPLE USE TOO MUCH BANDWIDTH!! FREE REEE!!!!

enjoy having your infrastructure consistently under attack, dumbasses

I havn't heard a single argument against NN that has swayed me. The hardline stance that regulation=bad is absurd. Ideally we wouldn't have regional monopolies in the first place, but a band-aid is still a band-aid. NN doesn't prevent us from removing the government control that supports these monopolies, and it does reduce monopoly bullshit tactics in the meantime.

>>133373196
and the only people that post these threads are newfag shills. ya ya we get it this is your job. but you arent fooling anyone and I hope you have to live in some slum in india due to the ridiculously low wages they pay you.

>>133376310
So... why allow a government which changes every 4-8 years(let alone, a government agency that can be changed at one's whim), to dictate what "neutrality" is?

>>133374568
no it started to fuck up and thats why we grassrooted net neutrality into existence. It needs to stay or the internet will just be another cable box of approved garbage with no actual information or substance. Also forget making websites anymore. you will only be able to post your thoughts and ideas to places that are unapologetic-ally censored.

>>133373196
Is there even a reason to support it?

>>133375774
where were all these people when we were bringing this into existence now all of sudden they spout some bullshit opposite day nonsense and make fun of people at a hipster convention for not knowing what it is.

>>133380523
Since it already doesn't exist, and it hasn't existed for the entirety of it's life, no. But what I don't support is ANY government putting their grubby jew fingers in it under the banner of "neutrality", and believe me, those companies that worship net neutrality violate it every single chance they get when a government puts a few dollars in their pocket. They're as full of shit as the "let's let the government dictate net neutrality" movement.

>>133376847
net neutrality was created to keep big media from gobbling the internet up. but its pretty much owned by 5 companies right now anyway. well of course except for all the cool shit corporations dont fuck with because its not profitable. Most of you come from reddit now so this doesnt sound like such a bad idea. well you are fools and want to stifle the little guy to give 3 giant cable companies all the power. people in america dont get options for internet because the fucking cable companies ate up the subsidies and didnt build new infrastructure like they should have. you see they are already fucking us as it is.

>>133380176
what the fuck is your IQ? Net Neutrality is just a name, it's not the actual policy. The actual policy is preventing ISP's from selectively modifying traffic and encouraging a "dumb line". As in, traffic is just traffic and no one fucks with it.

>>133380856
the law is already in place. you have no idea what you are talking about.

>>133378884
Test complete, report any discrepancies to Anon.

>>133380176
The faces change but the department heads stay.

>>133373760
Missed your argument there friendo.

>>133381206
Yes, I'm from Reddit. We love NN over there (it's almost universally supported on every subreddit) and are here to warn you kids about what things were like when we were growing up.

>>133381755
So, NN keeps companies from paying more to have faster access or what?

>>133380523
there is merit in keeping the internet working as a "dumb line", since corporate ownership of the internet would be just as bad as government ownership of it. Net Neutrality does not give the government very much regulatory power at all, but it stifles corporate telecom power over the internet.

overall it's a good tradeoff as the regulatory power the government gains from this is worth a lot less than the power ISP's wield. Many on here would say "well we had net neutrality before and nothing happened" and they're not wrong, but we're in an age where our Telecoms like Time Warner and Comcast own significant portions of the media and are vastly more powerful than they've ever been.

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>>133381928
Yes, NN ensures that Netflix and www.ilovemypoodle.blogspot are given equal bandwidth for the same price.
>>133381206
What I was talking about earlier. NN is huge with us at Reddit.

>>133376888
What does Net Neutrality do to stop that?

>>133381928
why are you responding to the troll?

>>133373196
PSB are based. No homo

>>133378651
ISPs don't have a monopoly anymore in many places. The only reason they ever had one in the first place was because of cronyism in local and state governments. If you don't like your ISP, switch to another one. Or start your own.

>>133373582
How the fuck do you trust your cable provider so implicitly, when you can't even get one of them on the fucking phone for tech support?

The only faggots who think net neutrality is bullshit, are the faggots who think the GOP actually gives a shit about their problems instead of giving tax cuts to their friends. Your cable provider will be able to sell YOUR data to anyone it fucking wants to, including the NSA or the cops. They'll be able to control data traffic from certain sites (that'll pay them handsomely for the privilege), and they'll be able to filter search results of the companies that don't pay them.

I wish I had that kind of inherent trust from the dumb masses. I'd make a fucking fortune controlling what sites they had access to and forcing them to see only the search results that paid me that day.

>>133373196
shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill

>1 post by this ID

>>133382310
>getting upset at something that potentially could, but almost certainly would not happen if regulations were lifted

Boy, Reddit is stupid.

>>133382807
there are very few places that have two cable companies what are you talking about? unless you are talking about dsl which is pretty much inferior no matter what you do.

>>133382886
Hello fellow Redditpede

>>133382857
>dumb people are still too smart to trust you
Wew lad

>>133383063
Too smart, or too dumb to realize who they're placing their trust in?

You're not trusting the government to know whats best for you. You're trusting Comcast and Time Warner to not censor the data you have access to. You're trusting a corporation not to fuck you over. How stupid do you have to be, to have NOT learned better by now?
>after the great recession and everything
t. the literal 12 year old too young to remember what corporations did to this fucking country when we "trusted" them.

>>133382310
So what happens when all the vidya man children want to look in to their favorite games and can't because NN makes it equal even under high usage?

They have you to blame. If a company wants to pay more and can afford to do so to make their services available to their customers what's the big deal. Seems like capitalism at work... Oh wait...

>>133382962
Fiber is available in most major cities and is expanding aggressively. DSL sucks, but it is competition. LTE and other cellular plans are viable, community WiFi is catching on, satellite is available if desperate. Just because you hate Comcast doesn't mean you need to regulate them and it definitely doesn't mean you are beholden to them.

The Internet is a luxury. Not a utility. Giving the FCC control over Internet content is a gateway to the FCC regulating what is and isn't allowed. Under Obama NN rules, there were already politicians and pundits talking about expanding FCC control to banning piracy, pornography and obscenity.

>>133373196
So you going to tell us who's paying you to shill this crap or are you just going to be a ponce?

>>133383336
I already warned everyone what the internet was like before Title II was put in place >>133376847. I don't know why you're so angry, but it might be related to your micropenis.

>>133373196
>i like to go against the most popular opinion because i'm le edgy meme xDDD

>>133382886
Why not? Microsoft did it to Minecraft within one fucking year of getting their hands on it.

The one thing that nobody wanted.

Also the CAPATCHA was "jewelry" and i misread it as "jewry", kek

>>133383336
If a corporation fucks me over, I can stop giving them my money. If my government fucks me over...

>>133383387
Ask this vidya man child >>133383336, I don't really know much about that topic.

>>133373196
Eat shit and die faggot
NET NEUTRALITY FOR ALL

>>133383833
Oh yeah. We're all going to stop giving our internet providers money, because we live lives where we don't need internet service for literally every fucking device in our houses.

One person not paying them will never fucking matter. "Vote with your $1" all you want, you're not going to make any kind of dent in their profit margin so they could give 2 shits about you, Anon Anonson, disagreeing with their policies enough to not pay your bill anymore.

>>133373196
Liberals take the simple approach to everything. Hearing them talk about climate change is pure mental gymnastics.

While we're on the topic of NN, what are we going to do about agricultural neutrality? I went into Kroger the other day and Kroger brand peanut butter was cheaper than Jif. Shouldn't they be the same price?
>peanut status: ACTIVATED

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>>133384323
YOU have the power to switch ISPs. How the fuck are you on 4chan and you don't know the power of a group of individuals? And just because you have filled your life with "smart gadgets" that record your every minute and pack it into the cloud doesn't mean the government needs to step in to help you maintain your pathetic technoslave existence.

>>133384462
kek

>>133382962
I live in the middle of nowhere and have several options, non of which involves cucked cable companies.

>>133373196
eh, i'm neutral about it

>>133384813
>you have the power to switch ISPs
I literally don't. Optimum is the only ISP where I live.

>>133383661
and? it still stands that most places in america do not have comparable competing companies because they sell each other areas to monopolize.

>>133384462
Not really the same. The appropriate comparison would be charging you more if you wanted to buy it for the purpose of having your dog lick it off your balls, rather than putting it in a sandwich. Think if it like a water company charging more for watering your plants than flushing your toilet.

>>133385001
Then fight that. Net Neutrality does absolutely nothing to fix that.

>>133373196
Thanks OP, you really convinced me! I love comcast now!

>>133385001
>monopoly
You don't know jack shit about what you're talking about

>>133385118
no but it stops them from fucking around with the only real access to the internet which works fine. you see we already fought this. this was the result and now they are just trying to undermine everyone by removing the solution.

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>>133373760
>EU

>>133385043
>water company charging more for watering your plants
Water companies in California are already doing this, despite opposition by the government.
http://www.californiacity-ca.gov/CC/index.php/mandatory-water-conservation

>>133385187
sure pal thats why there is only one cable company in most areas. oh but thats not a real monopoly. Its only a monopoly to most of the people. but see here in New York we have 2 companies to choose from so, not a monopoly ya know. give me a break.

>>133373196
You Brockpuppets are really pushing this thing, huh? Consider meeting with your team lead for up-training.

>>133373196
Look at the people and companies that are supporting FCC take over (net neutrality)? It should be obvious who /pol/ supports.

>>133385497
Just stop talking, leave the discussion to the adults.

>>133385360
So during the FCC NN period there were more ISP options available to you and now they are gone?

>>133385582
it would be easier to look up who's against it. ok here we go. comcast, spectrum, time warner. that was easy.

>>133385763
All of those companies are run by liberals, lol.

>>133385666
youre just a shill faggot. youre new here, better sit the fuck down. this was a grassroots campaign that 4chan was heavily involved in.

>>133385763
>Spectrum
>Time Warner

Literally the same company. Kys.

>>133385894
>grassroots campaign that 4chan was heavily involved in
You spelled Reddit wrong. Stick to finding HWNDU flags, we over at Reddit are affecting real change.

>>133373582
Net Neutrality at it's core is forced equality by the government's hands. No shit the commies are for it, it's right out of their playbook.

The way to dismantle monopolies is not to seperate it into large chunks but to slice it into many, many different pieces. Smaller companies can do deals with other smaller companies and wrestle away the market share from the large monopolies which will not provide that specific service. Meanwhile the actual big carriers are incentivised to keep their platform as unrestricted as possible to retain their large hold on the market.

>>133385894
Says the person who has no idea what they're talking about

>pay for electricity
>Company decides I use more than enough electricity by 6pm they shut me down.
>Buy a generator

>You cannot do this with the internet.

>>133373196
I use the internet only for 4chan and my life would fine without it.

I'm not even a blind Trump supporter, I just don't give a fuck about the internet. Maybe this will inspire some of you to do more than cry online like pussies. No more surrogate socialising online for the high anxiety betas, might help some of you man up.

>>133385763
Yeah, and Facebook, Google and Twitter are all for it.
Learn to think for yourself, not just parrot the opinions of others. That's exactly why the world has become so polarized. Everybody picks their "experts" and then they don't have to think for themselves anymore.

>>133386243
You don't need the internet to survive.

>>133386297
Impossible, have you heard one liberal in the last two years speak without using catchy buzzwords?

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>>133376206
>4chan couldn't exist without net neutrality
>net neutrality doesn't exist
>4chan does

>>133386441
You don't need electricity either you faggot

>>133385738
youre dancing around my point like a fucking fairy trying to avoid the real issue there is effectively an internet monopoly right now in most of america. what I mean by that is there are no other real options to access the internet other than very expensive cellular and satellite option. meaning the governmnet needed to step in because the cable companies were gearing up to make the internet cable 2.0 by controlling access. Its why we started this whole fucking net neutrality fight a few years ago.

the main problem is they are losing cable customers by the hundreds of thousands every month. they are losing the control of information. This is what this whole thing is about. they want to control what can and cant be seen on the internet. but more than that its to allow smaller internet sites to operate without having to buy licensing fees like you would if you wanted to make a cable channel.

>>133373582
>i trust you reddit
>trust

simple minded turd

>>133386506
You do during winter, what would you know about taking care of yourself? the biggest adversity you've faced is the threat of your anime website being slowed down kek.

>>133386493
Lol, I've yet to see an example of data throttling outside of cell companies. Liberals want to fix something that isn't broken like a corrupt mechanic.

>>133386493
>Pol grows stronger everyday
>No net neutrality
>Eventually they realize /pol/ strength, and start pay walling /pol/ or blocking it


Hiro just wants more views to sell more data and bottleneck costs him money.

>>133385478
That's a conservation measure in a place where the fresh water supply is physically limited. That link says the state government imposed the rationing to conserve water through the drought. Companies left to their own devices would rather sell at premium rates to supply Beverly Hills pool parties and let the rest of the state die of thirst. Water would be rationed either way, but this way everyone gets to live.

>>133385990
thats all you got fagboy? you shills are pathetic. spectrum just bought time warner.

>>133386698
>What is a fire

>>133386168
you are full of shit. Its obvious. everyone that was here during that time knows you are full of shit. just give up.

>>133386899
Two years ago.

Go back to shittit.

>>133373196
without net neutrality you get internet like cable tv, ie youu want more you pay more

good strong brainwashed american OP sees he is not already being exploited by the government and the corporations enough

>>133386297
literally everyone but the cable companies and you fucking shills are for net neutrality you dipshit.

>>133386243
>company shuts down my electricity after 6pm
>go to a different company

Wow, that was easy.

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>>133386977
That time? When? I've been here since 2004.

>>133386493
net neutrality exists blatant shilling today. these threads are the highest shilled threads on /pol/ let that shit sink in. we know what you faggots are trying to do and its pathetic.

>>133387267
Sauce.

>>133377814
Hi boomer faggot

>>133386516
Holy fucking shit, read what I write before you respond like an ignorant tween shit.

You keep bringing up monopolies as if Net Neutrality addresses the actual problem with lack of ISP competition. Monopolies in cable companies have been around for decades, but competition in the form of satellite TV disrupted that and forced cable companies to be more competitive. But even this is a digression. It has fucking NOTHING to do with Net Neutrality. There are tons of alternatives to cable nowadays. If you don't have those alternatives available to you, that is because of cronyism.
Cable companies already impose bandwidth restrictions and download limits. This also isn't solved with Net Neutrality.
But enough about fucking CABLE COMPANIES. They are dinosaurs. If they choose to block access to 4chan, you can circumvent that by giving your money to somebody else. If the government chooses to block access to 4chan, however, what will you do with yourself?

>>133378152
The people that argue against NN are such fucking kikes holy shit

so were we not "non-internet neutral" before october 2016? I can't recall any sort of change between then and now that makes this shit worth fighting for.

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>>133387584
>ancap larp flag
>pro-NN

>>133387497
>what will you do
I will browse reddit then.

>>133384813
Yeah 2 and they will probably fucking both do it. Im all for the republican party, but not everything they do is good.

>>133384977
Honestly it may incentivise free markets if its repealed, if enough people have a problem with optimum then a rival competitor witll show up.

I should know i live in a rural area, was a nightmare hughs net limits data ect every1 hated it, then comes fast non data capped internet to rival it outta no where. Upgraded to new internet , now i hear fiber optic is a couple years away in my area. People get dis satisfied and become new markets for isp's.

People sound like damn communists, they remind me of venezuelans, they would rather have muh monoploized internet dominated by giants all , rather than face scary free market capitalism, its like wanting a guaranteed one roll of toilet paper a month, rather then allow in evil capitalists and taking a chance of having the option to buy one of several brands of tp a month.

>>133386493
>HURRRRRRRRRRRRR
>DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

T.amerilard

>>133386045
Reddits full of socialist faggots

>>133387497
you fucking jew. listen really carefully. It allows the government to keep the pseudo monopoly of cable companies from controlling access to the internet. if there is no real option to change companies then you are stuck either dealing with it or just shutting it off. So yes the fcc needs to regulate them to make sure they dont traffic shape the little guys out of existence.

>>133387778
>if its repealed

Are you in fucking China? Stop.

>>133386143
This guy 100% gets it

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>>133387733
It was ironic

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>>133373196
Says the corporate controlled burger with a head full of nonsense.

>>133387196
There is only one in the entire county fag.

>>133387850
>Marxist
>2017
20th century called, they want their 100 million lives back, kike.

>>133373196
It'll be easier to take ACTION if I can't go on 4chan

>>133387937
but it doesnt work that way hence the need for net neutrality. we let them build up and it so happens that cable companies stuck with their approved business model of letting basically only one company take care of an entire area instead of trying to compete.

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>>133377814
>implying the TV Tray hasn't been around since 1953
>implying premium movie channels & pay-per-view were never a thing
>implying paper media wasn't in massive decline pre-1990
>implying libraries weren't already ghost towns pre-1990
>implying the internet had anything to do with multinational conglomerates supplanting mom & pop grocery stores
>implying the porn industry wasn't already raking in fuckloads of cash pre-1990

>>133388282
>implying people aren't grocery shopping on Amazon now
Hello troglodyte. Load up your blunderbuss and kys.

>>133373196
1 post. Gee wiz :^O

>>133373196
Net neutrality is all about achieving control over everyone's Internet connections. It's a ploy by SJW Jewscum to punish everyone for thought crimes. They say it's about preventing corporations from controlling traffic but that's actually a lie, the publicly available contents of the bill are fake, the real bill they'd pass would give all trannies free reign over your network traffic.
I have two verified and reputable sources for this claim.[1][2]


>[1]. proov me rong
>[2]. hint u cant

>>133387875
Don't fucking call me a kike faggot ass nigger. Net Neutrality is a "solution" to a problem that existed 10 fucking years ago. Do you honestly think Internet technologies aren't going to continue advancing?
Netflix has dropped a lot of content that I enjoy and replaced it with SJW commie bullshit content. Should the government force them to offer access to other content and not just what they've curated?
No they fucking shouldn't. That's why I cancelled my fucking Netflix subscription and told them to fuck off. I don't care if they continue to do that at this point because I have other services available.

>>133388489
Redditor here, this guy is right. We're going to use NN to turn 4chan into another Facebook or Twitter where conservative and hateful opinions are censored.

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>>133387778
I don't believe you. How do I know you're not just Comcast shilling?

>>133373196
Net neutrality is bad, (((Comcast))) is your friend

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I love net neutrality I mean I think I do.

>>133388690
You are defending ISP profits at the expense of the free flow of information.

You are a kike. End of story.

>>133388690
>Netflix has dropped a lot of content that I enjoy and replaced it with SJW commie bullshit content. Should the government force them to offer access to other content and not just what they've curated?
This is unrelated. Netflix is not an ISP.

>>133386698
>The human race never survived a winter until the AC current came along

>>133388440
>everyone shops for groceries on Amazon these days, it's not at all like the telephone grocery delivery services that have existed since the 1950's

>>133389195
So? I'm not a fucking commie. Also if you think the companies in >>133389072 truly care about the "free flow of information", ask yourself why many of them are blocking conservative political content that doesn't fit in their SJW/commie worldview.

>>133388690
>I hate netflix so everyone has to pay to use 4chan ok??

>>133389195
>Facebook
>Twitter
>Reddit
>Google
>Microsoft
>free flow of information
A fellow redditor who understands this situation. Welcome.

>Corporations are inherently evil and will seek to screw over their customers 100% of the time
>Government is a benevolent organization who work only for altruistic goals
>you should trust the government to regulate the corporations, pay no attention to the fact that many of the people appointing and hiring regulators have ties and receive money from said corporations

It makes no fucking difference either way.

>>133377814
the internet is a wonderful resource if you use it correctly. thats what the problem is. people think the internet is for facebook and reddit and youtube. these are just normie collectors. All the really good shit will be pushed aside for using the internet to stream cable shows. and this is what they want to do. streaming hd video takes a ton of bandwidth. they basically want to put that kind of traffic in the fast lanes and put regular internet on the back burner. you see why this would be a problem I hope.
>>133378654
places like youtube pay for the upload bandwidth and infrastructure themselves. If I make a website I pay a datacenter to keep me on a solid 1000Gb up and download. All of these high end connections are already leased from the cable companies. what they want to do is slow everyone else down for multiple reasons.

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retard CIA shills opposing net neut

>>133389480
>it's not at all like the telephone grocery delivery services that have existed since the 1950's
This is a true, unironic statement. Thanks for agreeing with me.

>>133387267
Net neutrality hasn't ever existed in Australia. We have ISPs explicitly providing unmetered access to content. Competition and prices have never been better.

Net neutrality will actually preserve these monopolies rather than break them up.

Take >>133386739's example
>/pol/ or 4chan gets too big and starts to get paywalled
>Hiro is too much of a jew and refuses to pay out extra shekels
>Content is slowed and people get frustrated
>Demand is still there
>People create a competing version which siphons off people who are fed up
>4chan traffic is no longer high enough to qualify as needing to be paywalled
>2 /pol/s exist (creating competition) and everyone is happy

And let's look at it from the other perspective
>Net neutrality is introduced
>4chan keeps growing larger and larger
>No-one else can even start a competing service as something as simple as no-one can offer something that can counter the allure of high traffic
>Monopoly is formed
>the highly centralised nature makes it a prime target for shady shit to occur, info being sold to marketing research and Hiro introducing shit like his own paywalls to capitalise on marketshare
>End users suffer as a result and have no other options

>>133389364
It's not unrelated. You're talking about the government regulating the availability of Internet content provided by an ISP. ISPs are private companies who don't own the content they provide. NN-fags believe that without NN, ISPs will switch to literally the Netflix model where they curate and license content. Do you really think there's a difference?

Just a reminder, when a large amount of threads (((suspiciously))) appear about a certain topic, you're witnessing astroturfing

>>133389487
Companies that run websites can allow or refuse whatever content they want. It's their website, and anything that goes on that website is their content, over which they alone have purview.
ISPs can also do this. But that's wrong, because your Internet traffic should belong to you, not to your ISP.
The net neutrality bill would make it so that ISPs can't do this.
So, for example, if you had an SJW ISP that censored Stormfront, they would no longer be allowed to censor Stormfront.

>>133389546
/pol/ will be blocked if NN is repealed, or you'll have to pay $100/month extra for the tiered Meme subscriber package

anyone defending repealing NN is an ancap kike who wants more shekels

>>133389812
>You're talking about the government regulating the availability of Internet content provided by an ISP.
Incorrect. We're talking about literally no one regulating the availability of Internet content provided by an ISP. Not the ISP and ALSO not the government.

>>133390009
>/pol/ will be blocked if NN is repealed
/pol/ existed before NN was introduced.

>>133389752
>no-one can offer something that can counter the allure of high traffic
because?...

>>133383336
>You're not trusting the government to know whats best for you. You're trusting [someone else]
Fuck off Big Brother.

>>133389959
... that is exactly what I just said. That's how capitalism works. If I were to start my own ISP, why shouldn't I have the right to offer premium services or content?

>>133373196
IT'S A
IT'S A
IT'S AAAAAAA~
IT'S A SIN

>>133390091
That was before ISPs wanted to throttle content you utter fucking retard

>>133390088
If you think handing regulatory authority over the delivery of Internet content to the FCC won't over time result in content becoming unavailable, you have way too much faith in politicians and bureaucrats who serve major corporations that pay them millions of dollars instead of the people who elected them.

>>133390091
You have never lived in a time where NN wasn't a thing, retard.

Stop defending ISP kikes and their attempt to grab more profits

>>133390267
Ummm no sweetie, people have accused ISPs of throttling content for almost 15 years.

>>133390267

Who would use an ISP that throttles content? Let them try and, and then get shit on by the market.

>>133390472
>the people who run these companies are too rich, the government needs to intervene and make sure their services are affordable to me

You sound like a fucking Bernout.

>>133386143
YAWN, go fap to losing wars to EMU's you fucking tosspot cunthair'd nigger lite.

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>ANCAP faggot shit

Not even once.

>>133389546
Since when has admitting to being a shittiter been a thing on /pol/?

Just because your site went to shit from the constant bots amd shills doesn't mean you need to spread that cancer over here.

Fuck right off. You're falling on def ears you nit wits.

>>133390220
>If I were to start my own ISP,
You weren't.
The ISPs that already exist control the market, and they've gotten themselves into a nice comfy place where they always will. Your hypothetical ISP would be dead in the water no matter WHAT you offered. Either that, or you'd have a few days of high traffic and high revenue and then you'd "disappear."
THAT is how capitalism works.
And THAT is why something like net neutrality is necessary.
Because it's the closest we're gonna get to market reform.
>>133390392
The corporations whose asses the FCC is licking have money. All the FCC itself has is their belly fat. If they don't abide by the law as it's formulated, there are all kinds of nasty things we can do to them that we couldn't do to some nebulous entity like a corporation, especially not without a legal statement to back it up (which, if net neutrality is not realized, would not exist).

>>133390818
>kikes are your friends, defend them with all you got!
you sound like a shabbos goy

>>133389812
well thats pretty much what they want to do. they want to turn the internet into a cable streaming service. hell most of them already provide that option for free. but they are realizing they cant keep it up. its just too much bandwidth being used as background noise for most people, so they can do one of two things. Build the infrastructer out tax subsidies were supposed to pay for or Slow sites like youtube and netflix down in favor of their own version of these sites. Which do you think they will do if given the option? well we already know. They didnt build up the infrastructure like they were supposed to so that cats out of the bag. That leaves bullshit kikery in order to "compete". The best part about this whole fight they are putting up is people arent dropping thier cabls service because they would rather watch movies on a tablet. they just dont like 99% of whats on cable. They really dont understand that people just dont like the content on tv anymore.

>>133390094
There have been hundreds upon hundreds of chan sites which have sprung up and died over the years.

Purely because the traffic hasn't been enough to keep them sustainable. The only major ones that got any life were specifically created to to cater to communities/interests that 4chan rejected like /i/ and the pedoshit with 12chan.

Ultimately the success of a forum hinges on the ability to speak freely as possible while having a many people as possible that can hear you.

>>133378643
shouldn't you be writing your congressman about the big bad capitalists trying to limit your fREEEEEEdoms?

>>133390818
We're being raided on a scale we've never seen before. Obviously some leftist shit sub is doing it.

>>133391118
and how would removing net neutrality end this?
also hotwheels' website exists and is popular. don't you remember gamergate?

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>>133389947
>when people don't give a shit about what you want to talk about because more interesting shit is happening, it's astroturfing

>>133391200
nah man this is shareblue. this shit showed up right after the fucking election was over.and they needed another fucked up idea to shill.

>>133379802
>not about YOUR freedom, about keeping their money safe
Jewgle and kikeBook don't want to have to pay parts of their precious ad revenue to ISP companies. Don't think for a second that the internet's biggest shilling platforms have your interests in mind. They don't care about you. They care about the money.

>:^) ahhh yes. Cannot wait to see what free enterprise brings to the interne-*beep your 250mb free browsing plan has expired please login to verizion.net and secure more free broswing coins or go back to youtube and netflix and use your 38.7gb left of data*

>>133391403
>no one wants to talk about
>10 threads a day about repealing NN for a couple months now
>I-It's not astroturfing

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>>133391104
>21 post

You're aweful confident in your information for someone who got all of their information from groupthink.

I cannot believe this fag keeps talking after making so many cringy statements.

>>133391090
This guy gets it. Zuckerberg, Page, and Bezos are going to do everything they can to ensure /pol/ can still gas kikes.

>>133373196

Great album. One of the best of the decade.

>>133391461
>this is share blue
Are you speaking for yourself, newfag?
Fuck right off.

>>133389752
>doesn't know about real /pol/ on 8 chan

>>133391690
>17 posts by this id
you shill like a nigger.

>>133391937
Rules one and two, don't give them any ideas.

>>133373582

>Yeah, we're living it.

What, net neutrality is in place since 2015.

All you just said didn't happen.

>>133378643
Tor is banned?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>133391937
Did you read my other posts?
>>133391937
I'm well aware of the other chans, in fact I specifically mentioned the reason why they spring up.
>implying hotwheels split is the first time this community has broken apart

>>133391662
Deal with it. More people care about this then your shitty topic. If anything it's YOUR shit astroturfing these legitiment topics

>>133396691
you are fake. you dont belong here and you stand out like a sore thumb.

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>>133378643
Hey fuck you faggot, Norway bro is awesome

>>133397770
Lol.