A World without Net Neutrality

>>133368190
the scary thing is this would be the internet without net neutrality

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>go back home after thanking friend
>it's night
>wake up next morning
>SWAT team at my door
>"Hey, we've recovered evidence that you've committed Internet Fraud and Money Laundering by not paying your service packages and going to a friend's house to use his"
>Fuck, my friend's house must've been bugged
>go outside
>have to pay for the bare minimum of internet packages, because they're mandatory like insurance in the US
>total fee: $429.99 (not including taxes) (2 month plan)
>go back home, after tipping SWAT officers the federal minimum tip of 50%
>they give me dirty looks because i didn't pay at least 70%
>go inside
>look up ways to kill myself on computer
>"You do not have access to this media. Please pay $69.99 in the form of a "Internet DIY Crafts License™"
>kill myself by autoerotic asphyxiation
>meet Steve Jobs and Jeff Bezos at the pearly gates
>mfw they told me they got AIDS from being raped by bubba because of internet fraud
>ah well, they should've paid off their ISPs
>trip on top stair leading to the pearly gates
>fall on floor
>everyone walk the dinosaur
2/2

>liberal faggots scared of the free market

It'll take care of itself you retards. We're going to be better off without Net Neutrality.

>>133368517
>be unironically a fucking ancap
>feels good because cool, hip, and edgy

>>133368517
there will be riots globally when you have to pay 5.99 a month for each individual website, or even a package of websites

Without net neutrality the internet dies and becomes another money farm for shitheads

>>133368685
Not a fucking argument. You should probably consider removing that flag.

>>133368693
>Muh ebil corporations are going to take advantage of us!!!!!

Here's an idea you fucking moron, don't buy the services of ISPs who are trying to price-gouge you. The market will handle things from there.

>>133368517

>net neutrality makes companies have to offer free and equal access to internet
>the removal of this makes things less free

>implying smaller companies which offer net neutrality won't be sabotaged by ((them)) and ((their)) goons

>implying the invisible hand or whatever you faggots believe in will remove big companies' monopolies

>>133368693
that would only happen if liberals made it like it is RIGHT NOW where only certain providers are allowed in an area. You really think the internet wouldn't be cheaper in a totally free market?

>>133368440
That will be $429.99 plus tip.

Unironically a good thing
I would blow up the internet if I could. 0 (zero) positive societal changes have come from this thing

>>133368877


Look up the definition of a cartel Faggot. All those corporations will collude with each other to fuck you over, and you will like it like the good slave you are

>>133368877

> don't buy the services of ISPs who are trying to price-gouge you

Yes use the alternatives that don't exist because of the unchecked free market creating monopolies!

>>133368931
i want neutrality to be intact and actually expanded to force better free speech
salty man babies and their land whale shemales xerfriends can go cry somewhere else if they get triggered

Without net neutrality, 4chan sort of dies. Everyone gets this right?

>>133368190
As a luddite I really hope something fucks up the internet.

>>133368916
>muh monopolies

I was going to make a comment about economically illiterate you'd need to be to imply that undying monopolies can even exist in a free market, but then I noticed that you're from an ex-communist shithole, so I'll give you a pass for not knowing what the fuck you're talking about.

>>133368517
>ancap meme economics

>>133369261
without net neutrality the internet dies

>>133368517
the free market is a dangerous thing
believe it or you fucking millennial nigger back then dirty business practices such as buying off or vandalizing smaller companies by larger companies are a thing.
do you know all those mafia that harrassed mom and pop shops for not paying protection rackets? they were paid to do that by corporations.

>>133369117
This faggot on the other hand, has no excuse. A monopoly cannot exist in a free market unless they provide a service that literally nobody else can provide as effectively, in which case what exactly is the fucking problem?

I guarantee that the "monopolies" you're thinking of historically that are still around have had the government step in to bail them out whenever they're about to fuck up and collapse. That isn't the free market, that's corporate welfare.

>>133368517
AT&T, Comcast and Verizon, yeah what a free diverse market with a whole 3 choices.

Are you 12?

>Have a senile boomer upstairs who pays for everything
>Wifi PW is 1234
I give a fuck

All these websites are profitable businesses, google WANT YOU THERE, Facebook WANT YOU THERE, why the fuck would they let you be throttled. also if you are being throttled CHANGE PROVISOR

I disagree with net neutrality on principal but i do support it in a pragmatic sense, given that govt. fuckery in the name of free markets is still government fuckery

>>133368517
I'm not afraid of the fre marker, just oligopolistic comeptition. If the ISP market was actually free, then providers would naturally compete into an open internet. With few providers, they implicitly collude to increase profit. The costs asaociated witu new entry is so high, its illegal in some areas, ensuring the mega-ISPs station is secure.

Crony capitalism isn't a free market you useless faggot take an economics course sometime.

>>133369261
Net neutrality is only ever a concern if internet providers are a monopoly in a large area AND said providers are able to bully websites into paying to avoid throttling.

Any appreciable competition in the larger market makes it unnecessary. You don't even need competition in every locality, just enough competition that the monopolized localities have access to the same service as competitive localities.

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>be average guy
>get bored and decide to go online
>Google takes 1 hour to load, as borderline socialist government laws have dictated all households must receive internet at the same speed and also must submit to constant government scanning
>because Google is the only permissible search provider available due to government regulations ensuring other ones cannot exist due to the necessary setup fees, maintenance fees and government tie-in system I receive 6 results
>every single one is government approved because they have to be or they simply won't show up and my ISP is not permitted to access them
>Tyrone has been downloading a single torrent of Black Anuses 9 on his T-Mobile basic nigga plan, which he will get imprisoned for but the federal government has to handle it so he will be clogging the pipes for 300 million Americans for the next six months before that happens
>but at least companies aren't controlling my internet now!

>>133369276

they can though. In a free market, someone will eventually come out on top. Now this someone will be able to sell some services at a loss and some with profit. Because of this, the someone will be preferred by people because of their cheaper prices/ better services. This means that they will eventually have a monopoly over that particular service, which in this particular scenario is the internet

>mfw you'll have no outlet to vent your angsty meme economics after 4chan gets shut down so you'll sperg out and shoot up a supermarket because people laughed at you for suggesting that the market was monopolizing the tendies and cheetos

>>133368190
>>133368440
>>133368916
was the internet like this for you before net neutrality? Or are you just not old enough to remember what it was like?

>ITT: people who are controlled by fear propaganda

>>133369494
Hey retard, what do you propose as an alternative, then? So in this scenario, how exactly is it their fault that no other worthy competitors have come along to offer a better service? What, should the government step in and run it all themselves? Have fun with that bureaucratic nightmare, literally every single government service is absolute shit because when a government holds a true monopoly on a given service, they have absolutely zero incentive to improve. They're the only game in town, and nobody else can even try to take over and do better.

>>133369574
Now explain how the site you're on right now isn't gonna get throttled by ALL providers.

>>133369276
>undying monopolies can even exist in a free market
>JewSA
>free market

>>133368877
>Anti cartel laws that ensure competition are passed by government and therefore antithetical to a free market

Sorry buddy, I have actually studied these things at major universities. AnCap is a nonsense ideology based on economic superstition. The EU's anti monopoly and anti cartel laws have worked, benefiting consumers enormously. Perfect competition does not exist, and most industries only have 6 or 7 key players. The govt needs to stop collusion, though granted the free rider problem disincentives collusion most of the time.

>>133368517
net neutrality IS free market, dumbass

have you ever set up a website in your fucking life?

>>133369596
>implying it isnt

So we just stand around waiting to literally have to pay more than we already do for services we already receive at the moment?

Are your parents brother and sister?

>>133368877
Being this fucking stupid..........

>>133368517
FUCK the free market you goddamn moronic subhuman

>>133369775
t-mobile is breddy good

I had unlimited 4G data in both Europe and Iraq.

>>133369786
Building a monopoly in the first place is difficult as fuck assuming you aren't borrowing money from the government and having them come to the rescue whenever things look bad. Maintaining it is even worse, because you have to hope that the shit-tons of cash you've invested in all of the competition you've managed to buy out will have been worth it, which is rarely is, because absolutely nothing is stopping someone else from coming along with an alternative and siphoning away your business in the hopes of toppling your monopoly. There is no such thing as "too big to fail" in a truly free market system. All it takes is one single person with an appealing idea on how to serve the same market as you for it to all come crumbling down.

>>133369590
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why is there idiots like this in my country?

Its fucking shameful!

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>>133369993
>using the EU as a positive example for anything

The EU fucks them in the ass regularly and censors absolutely everything because, surprise, that's what the government will do if they have control over how you access the internet.

"Net neutrality" like so many other government programs is just a pleasant word meant to disguise the fact that it's a plan for governments to fuck you in the ass instead of companies. And despite never having the sort of net neutrality you propose, companies have yet to fuck us in the ass. Why? Because they know they'd lose business if they throttled controversial yet undeniably popular sites like 4chan or Plebbit.

The government doesn't care about making their citizens happy because you'll pay taxes or go to jail anyway.

>>133370112
its not even free market its just billionaire rammning their shriviled cock up you ass and forcing you to pay them for it

>>133368190
you already live in a world without net neutrality you commie faggot

>>133368190
>killing the internet
>bad thing

People actually think this.

Why isn't the big "shutdown in protest" thing that websites did against SOPA happening with this?

>>133369993
>The EU's anti monopoly and anti cartel laws have worked, benefiting consumers enormously.

Show proofs.

>>133370033
Not an argument.

>>133369276
also the monopoly doesnt need to be undying, just enough for you to kill yourself from lack of cuck porn featuring your wife and her son

>no shit sherlock, undying monopolies can't exist anywhere

>>133369469
>a service that literally nobody else can provide
Do you have any idea how much capital is needed to kickstart an ISP?

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>>133369938
>explain how the site you're on right now isn't gonna get throttled by ALL providers

Easy - It isn't.

Wow, that was hard.

>>133368990
This.

People will stop using the internet just like they've stopped using cable and satellite.

>>133370027
Look at what happened to Cell Phone plans.

You can get ~$35-40 with unlimited talk/text/data that only a few years ago was more than twice as much.

Know why it happened? Regulations changed forcing the monopolies to allow budget carriers to use their cell towers. The same thing can happen with ISPs.

why are you guys arguing with an idiot who doesnt want roads to exist and entire ideology can be torn apart with meme balls?

>>133369590
very well said anon

>>133370541
Ancap has never been actually debunked

>>133370362
I'm going to take this absolute shit-pile of a post as concession that you have lost the argument, given that it has absolutely no worthwhile content within it.

>>133370449
There are millions of people in this world with a lot of cash to kick around. It only takes on enterprising person to get things off the ground.

Is it use of infrastructure that allows, one cable company, etc

If there is a way to have a cheap infrastructure global wifi type deal the jews would shit their pants

>>133369469
>A monopoly cannot exist in a free market
What is Steam?

>>133370498
>>133368990


This is way /pol/ is so fucking retarded.... Can't even explain how stupid they are.

>>133368190
We have no net neutrality or government restrictions her and we have the second best internet in the WORLD

>>133370197

>one single person with an appealing idea on how to serve the market better than you

literally buy his company out AND hire him to make your products better

Believe me, i'd rather work for some rich dude and get paid 7 figures than slave away trying to eke out an existence for my small business

>>133369786
Yes, and if he had even read the Austrian, Schumpeter, he would know that most firms have monopolies some of the time. If a shop opens after 11pm and all others are closed it is a monopoly in the night time. It doesnt raise prices, it uses the monopoly to increase sales.. In rural communities there is often only a single toolshop or at least very limited competition. AnCaps live in a fantasy world, monopolies are ubiquitous in capitalism, and are in many ways the cause of capitalism's success. Monopolies are also very hard to maintain and are unstable, but anti-cartel laws do not stop firms from occasionally becoming monopolies (like my shop example), they prevent inefficient collusion, restrictions to entry, and price rises.

>>133370682
ancap requires an enforced moral framework, aka religion. In the end ancap is at best an ideal theocracy.

>>133370331
Didnt they abolished roaming fare altogether recently?

>>133370537
Absolutely disgusting that anyone would actually defend government stepping in and forcing someone to allow some faggots to use their property that they built with their own time and money. Those phone plans are absolute shit in terms of service quality. Do you have the slightest clue as to why that might be?

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>>133368190
our government really is about stealing the freedom.

I mean libertarians bitch about taking taxes but that seems to stand to reason as they create jobs under humane conditions.


now if ther is something horrible is how they move OUT OF THEIR way to steal our interwebs freedumb. the commie NWO jews. the NWO commie jews. the commie NWO jews.

>>133370282
What exactly does the EU censor?

>>133368190
You know how happy I would be to see those smug smart phone users have to pay out their ass for their online idiocy. You act like this a bad thing.

>>133370739
Steam is not a monopoly, though it is the closest service in that market to one.

Do you know why Steam is this way? Because its competition, for the most part, is fucking shit, and Valve knows what the fuck they're doing and people love them for it, for the most part. But I guess it must be absolute HELL to be FORCED to use a service with regularly-occuring 75%+ off sales on its goods.

>>133370957
the budget carriers still pay to use the cell towers.

>implying service is bad
lol

>>133370742
OK smartass explain what's gonna happen then

>>133370742
No, what is retarded is OP assuming anyone would be bothered to pay that much to LARP and shit post with pirate flags on a trap image board.

Jacking up prices that high will enable only govts, universities and medical facilities to use the internet which is the way it should be. No one is going to give a fuck that a bunch of neckbeards can no longer jack off to hentai and "ladies" with cocks.

>>133370768
Seconding this. It's amazing with all the problems Romania has they manage to have the best internet in the world. I don't what they are doing right but they do something right.

So I'll be free finally from 4chan?

>>133371307
The internet is for porn

>>133370739
you have GoG, U-play, Origin and quite a few smaller competitors.

There are very few steam exclusive titles and the majority are indie titles who lack their own digital distribution.

>>133369494
We have no competition right now you moron

>hurrr we need father government to protect us
no we need the free market to offer choices. The ISP that doesn't fuck us is the one that succeeds. So the solution is to break up the monopolies. Simple as that.

Not FCC control. Enough with this false dilemma bullshit.

>>133368517
This is the most retarded shit ive read, i think this guy is a shill and making it on purpose to make trump supporters look bad

>>133370537
>Regulations changed forcing the monopolies to allow budget carriers to use their cell towers

You live in a fantasy land.

There are no "budget" carriers. They just offer shittier service for less money.

Cell plans keep going up in cost and carriers like T-Mobile stopped subsidizing phones while also raising prices and yet retards actually think this is a good deal.

Competition in the cell phone market has been horrible for society since most of your money goes to paying for shitty advertising and interest on the massive debts these companies have instead of on actual service.

Cell phone voice quality and reliability has always been worse than landline and actually keeps getting worse over time even though digital technology has radically improved in the past 20 years.

>>133371494
>Sprint

>>133370465
Why would an ISP not attempt to strangle one of the main places they would hear protest from if it ever fucked up if it had the chance? Places like here, reddit, cripplechan etc. are fucked in their hands.

>>133370739
Not a monopoly (?) as Steam is a unique platform. There are many other sitesthat sell games, but Steam has good costumer service and hasn't given any reasons for users to abandon its platform yet or similar platforms to rise up.
If you mean it dominates the market, you're right, but it's not necessarily a nad thing.

>>133368877
>no friends, so doesn't know about collusion

Kekeke, you try buying insulin or gold these days, goy and tell me all about free trade

>>133371360
I was reading that the commieblocks or prefab apartments have excellent internet access in general. Just the nature of the structure, not endorsing the system that's always failed.

>>133371576
We should impose more regulations and try to artificially create competition by making it harder on the successful companies!

Actually, scratch that, let's do away with that mean nasty competition altogether. Just have the government set the prices and quality of services. That way it's nice and fair for everyone!

>>133370282
Semi-related
not many americans realize that europeans have to buy a fucking TV license to watch television, and the governing body who issues these also places up menacing billboards to spook those who circumvent this license. Fuck Europe and their gov

>>133369596
This. The inability for competing companies to put up wires on public utility poles because of the local isp monopoly is a bigger threat .

>>133371513
>the isp that doesn't fuck us is the one that succeedes
AHHHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAAHHGAHAHAHAHA

>>133368990
Agreed

>>133368190
It's what you deserve for "searching up 4chan" instead of just going straight to the site, faggot

>>133371927
>>That's what he deserves for paying that much for access to trap porn

FIFY

>>133370256
Spotted the homo shill. Too early to be drinking anon.

>>133371833
>AHHHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAAHHGAHAHAHAHA
What's so funny? you don't think corporations are greedy? A greedy man would simply have to make an ISP that didn't sell your info, and everyone would swarm to it.

Fairly simple concept.

>>133371277
>the budget carriers still pay to use the cell towers.
Not enough though. In case of no government enforcement they would not be able to afford market price what was the case in past :^)

>>133370768
>>133371360
>>133371688
Romania has great internet speeds for the primary reason that only about 50% of the entire population has access to the internet in the first place (http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-D/Statistics/Pages/stat/default.aspx) in a country that is roughly the size of a single one of our states. If you could stretch out Romania's landmass and population to match ours, their internet service would be shit-tier.

>>133371792
I'm glad somebody else understands that the government is enforcing monopolies.

>>133371927
You cannot reach 4chan without searching for it.

What is a DNS lookup?
What is routing to an IP Address?

>>133369417
Wrong

>>133371792
This

>>133369417
>>133372249

Sorry not wrong, replied to wrong post

You are right anon, without net neutrality there will be no internet anymore

>>133368517
>free market
You have local ISP monopolies.

>>133369494
Yes, goyim, it's voluntary and free because you have 3 whole choices! And if you try and make an alternative yourself, you can have 3 whole choices of serious injury by the corporate goons!

>>133372472
>You have local ISP monopolies.
so...
break them up

>>133371731
Anon you're not making sense anymore

>>133372880
Yeah, that's what happens when you promote economic government interference.

>>133368877
>the meme market will fix itself

Ahaha that s why gas prices ARE THE SAME at every petrol station with a margin of 0.02 cents , totally not a cartel

>>133371400

Here forever.

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you fucking brainlets, they will use this faggot ”net neutrality” law to censor even more the internet

the jew is trying to censor the internet since at least 2000

do you think the patriot act was to protect you?

>>133368877
>not an argument
What's with these ancap shills? Shareblue d&c tactic? Soros does want to destabilize, what better way than to destroy our civilization at its core.

>>133372742
If you break them up net neutrality would be unnecessary, but since they exist net neutrality is necessary.
Also good luck breaking them up with all the money they lobby with.

>>133373144
What the fuck are you talking about? Maybe that's how it works in your country, but where I live gas prices vary for a variety of reasons.

>>133373728
Notice the Jew shilling for net neutrality. Notice Jewgle and Kikebook pushing the net neutrality meme every time it's threatened.

But no, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, /pol/.

>itt, corporate shills try to convince people that the monopolistic stranglehold internet providers have on the internet won't somehow result in them treating the internet like cable, pay more for this website, pay more for that one, and now we can indirectly censor websites the government tells us to by locking them behind paywalls and throttling

you are all retarded.

>>133372097
>only about 50% of the entire population has access
This is where a lot of the "amazing" statistics for poor countries seem to come from. I assume countries with high reported IQs like china have only a tiny fraction of the population taking the tests.

>>133370282
>The EU fucks them in the ass regularly and censors absolutely everything because
No it doesn't you retard

>>133368190
<trump is on our side
dasdkasjdl

>>133369117
>the free market creates monopolies
o am i laffin

>>133374562
Of course it does, once an ISP is established how could anyone compete?

>>133368190
Fear mongering.
>>133368517
Honestly and unironically this.

>>133368190
FUCK OFF SHILL

>>133370957
>>133371576
I have Boost Mobile.

It is a fantastic service with unlimited talk, text and data for $45. And by unlimited data, I mean truly unlimited 4G data with no throttling or any schemes, plus 8 Gigs of Hotspot included for any other wifi device.

Fuck you for your bullshit disinformation about "shitty service". Whatever helps you losers cope with your $200 contract with asshole scam companies like (((Verizon))) for even less services though.

I will defend the shit out of Boost Mobile. Ive had them for years and have no plans of dropping them, they are fucking awesome.

>>133374724

>What happened to AOL?

>>133368190
>TV dying
>Internet taking over
>Telecommunications companies desperate to exploit their customers on the new platform.

Just remember. Anything outside Youtube, Facebook and Twitter will be premium options if netneutrality ever goes away.

>>133374953
Not thr one you responded to, but AOL died from incompetence

Am I the only one who WANTS to see Net Neutrality die? If it means liberals have less access to the internet, than so be it.

>>133368190
fuck yourself. net neutrality gives countries a way to outright control the internet as-is already. you stupid fuck.
KYS Shareblue faggot.this is like your 8th thread all over the site

>>133373549
ive given up, they deserve it. im all in for supporting net neutrality, anything that will make this fucking world worse for the idiots.

>>133375134
As they should have, and as it should be. Twenty years from now I highly doubt the ISP landscape we're used to will look the same. On a similar note, remember when Myspace had the burgeoning social media market cornered and was an unstoppable behemoth?

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>>133368190
So? It will be more expensive to shill...I don't have a problem with that.

>>133370282
yeah man I'll trust an american on this

>>133375295
No, it means you have less access to the internet moron. Liberals only use their bubble social media websites which will all be part of the basic package.

What the fuck is wong in your head that you think those websites will be limited? They have the money to make sure everyone can access them. They will always be available.

>>133375406
>neutrality gives countries a way to outright control the internet as-is already
No, it doesn't. It is the exact opposite of that.

>>133375815
I can pay for it. Liberals always want everything for free so they won't have access to their typical websites. In addition, it will finally remove all the ShareBlue shills from here. Liberals don't deserve expressing their wrong opinions publically anyway.

>>133376154
stop LARPing

>>133376154
Yes, they will have access to their typical websites. They are the product. Those websites will pay to make sure they can access their product, you dont seam to understand that money flows in from more that one direction.

>>133370690

Why would someone who is rich and can afford internet access on the current ISP kickstart a free one?

I suggest you erase the "capitalist" part of your flag.

FROM ANON IN OTHER THREAD:

>If you somehow do not know what net neutrality is, it's the legislation that keeps your ISP from charging the use of or just outright banning websites from your access.

Blatantly untrue. Net neutrality is the principle that ISPs should treat all data equally on their lines regardless of its source or destination. Whether it's a youtube video, a video game, a website, etc.

The reason ISPs want it isn't because they want to Jew out consumers, it's because they want to Jew out businesses. Certain highly popular websites like Netflix and Youtube, Amazon and Google, consume vast amounts of data indiscriminately, shitting up the lines of many ISPs with literally petabytes of data. Is it wrong for a private business to want to charge those companies more, because as it stands they pay just as much to comcast as any other person.

>but the ISPs are going to lock everybody's websites down into hundreds of packages and throttle everything
This is really a false reality being pushed onto you by supporters of net neutrality. As it stands, the internet is not under title II and many misguided liberals and corporate shills would hve you believe that putting the internet under government regulation is the only way for this to not occur. But until 2015 there were no rules against net neutrality, and there was not this fragmented internet. That is a dystopian fiction made up by (((Google))) (((Amazon))) and (((Facebook)))

>>133368517
>unironically believing the free market will fix everything

>>133368190
>>133368440
There are people, RIGHT NOW, who deny that this is EXACTLY, UNIRONICALLY, NONHYPERBOLICALLY (including the price tag) how it's gonna be.

>>133376470
They are so out of touch keeping them in their bubble is a good thing. They have lost all sense of reality, they don't understand why they lose.

>>133376470
Only if they pay for it. Liberals are always GIBSMEDAT so they won't. Like most other Republicans, I can afford to access the sites that will be behind the paywall that Democrats won't. It's the power of the free market, you stupid liberal hippie.

>>133371630
>>133371630

Do you know what throttling is? It would merely slow down the load times of 4chan.

>throttle 4chan
>piss off millions of people
>somehow good for business
>somehow won't fuck you over
>ISP #143 offers 4chan unthrottled
>ISP #143 becomes the holy grail among 4chan and earns millions of subscribers
>the people throttling 4chan get destroyed by weaponized autism

Why do you think gas prices are all the same in your city, because if one asshole jacks the price up $0.20 it'll piss EVERYONE off, no one will buy gas from them, and it'll affect their business in a 100 other ways.

>>133368190
>Many new and old smaller noncucked sites popped up and destroy Jew monopolies and their source of income

Fuck off shill. This literally just means plebbit, Tumblr, kikebook, twatter and such have to pay the isps more instead of spreading propaganda on the isps dime. Literally nothing changes. Net nuetrality hasn't been in effect for even a year.

Dumbass shill.

>>133370845

That's pretty much what Google and other companies have been doing. Every once in awhile you'll hear about no-name retards who invested a grand into a shitty company that was bought by Google and they become millionaires

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>>133369775
nothing with humans is ever black and white; don't turn it that way

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who cares about internet just go outside faggots

>>133377255
They wont have to pay for it, they will get it with their basic internet service that they pay for with their telephone contract. Facebook will pay to keep their website on the basic internet list.

>>133378357
Yeah but King Trump with throttle the connections of Hillary voters so the sites will become unusable to them, while the Trump voters (like me) will be left alone.

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>>133378597
literal

>>133378709
Don't ever compare me to a inhuman degenerate again, liberal shill. I'm better than you and always will be. Republicans and smarter, wiser, and have bigger penises than Democrats (undisputed fact).

>>133379022
No comparison was needed.

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Picture it: hundreds of thousands of autists left to their own devices minus their freedom of internet.

Net Neutrality FAQ:
>1. Who supports NN?
Reddit, (((4chan mod team))), Google, Facebook, Netflix, Amazon, Twitter, Snapchat, AirBnb, Spotify, etc. Notice how all of these groups are leftist.

>2. Will anti-NN legislation "bundle" the internet?
No, this is a commonly repeated Jewish lie like "communism works". If a company "bundles" the internet, another one will not bundle and get all the customers, just as the free market intended.

>3. Are they going to block/restrict/slow down 4chan?
No. They have the technology and legal basis to do this right now, but they aren't doing it. Anti-NN legislation won't change a thing. This is just another Jewish fiction design to cause panic.

>4. We need to fight for NN or the internet will go into the hands of the evil corporations and Republicans! Keep the internet free and independent!
Obama already gave control of the internet to the United Nations in 2016. This is still in effect.

>>133379459
>If a company "bundles" the internet, another one will not bundle

Ahh, you mean like how if a company sets limits one wont. Or like all those cable companies that give you free HBO,2,3,4 Ohh ohhh, Yeah, they all do the same thing dont they. Its most like theres only 5 ISPs to choose from or less and they dont give a shit about you.

>>133373911
Ad hominem isn't a valid argument.

>>133369117
The reason ISP monopolies exist is because it's damn near illegal to attempt to set up an ISP without a mountain of licenses and a bigger mountain of cash. It's government created monopolies. While I agree there should be equal access (As there is now, at least), the problem lies with the laws that choke out any competition, rather than the market ending up that way.

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>>133379125
Go fuck yourself you fucking nigger.

>>133368990
Yeah sure who needs the Internets. We can all watch CNN like before. This will bring the postive changes.

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>>133379938

>>133368685
>net neutrality
>ancap
lol redditors

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>>133373911

>>133379938
>>133380075
Oh look, the shills are slipping up. Fuck off.

>>133381396
You're the shill, fucking coalburner. I bet Soros pays you per word, traitor.

>>133368517
Hey dude listen youre very obviously trying to imply republicans want to get rid of net neutrality, we dont

Now kys shariablue

>>133368190
So correct me if I'm wrong, but won't that make people get off the computer, stop soaking up information from other sites and force them to socialize with people thus building a community? Really not trying to shill but if this did go through, could this end but being a blessing?

>>133381396
He is probably posting in 2 different threads at the same time, and he forgot to change his meme flag

Don't be so schizophrenic

>>133368517
Yeah, free market with a 3 ISP-s.

>>133381779
That would be a case of "slipping up".

>>133381622
Back to /r/thedonald with you, thot.
>>133381779
Changing your flag doesn't change your ID. See?

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>>133376989
>it's because they want to Jew out businesses. Certain highly popular websites like Netflix and Youtube, Amazon and Google, consume vast amounts of data indiscriminately, shitting up the lines of many ISPs with literally petabytes of data
Yeaah, you're fake news

>>133369494
Is cablevision part of those three? It's what I have. Pretty good too.

>>133382122
IDs were the same, you fucking retard. See>>133380286


And back to the_cheeto

>>133368517
How's that McNuke coming along? You're going to get Pinochet'd by some nutty lefty.

>>133370449
Internet in America is roughly $75 a month for copper cable.

The known cost for every mile of fiber optic cable is $52,000
US is 3.2 Million square miles.
47% of that is COMPLETELY UNINHABITED.

About 80% of american homes have internet.
There are 125.82 million homes in America.

Cost to lay 1 mile of fiber down every square mile of inhabited land in the US would be about $5 TRILLION.

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There are many fine arguments from the Ancap perspective, but these aren't convincing to a NatSoc.
I argue that if you're a NatSoc, you should also oppose Net Neutrality, but in favor of NATIONALIZING the ISPs.

The corporate welfarist middle ground is what's dangerous.

>>133379459
>Notice how all of these groups are leftist.
It makes me sad how otherwise redpilled anons haven't broken the conditioning on this issue.

Net Neutrality is blatant fearmongering by corporate welfarists who want to solidify their monopolies. This media campaign is right out of (((Barnays's))) playbook. I personally know an independent ISP who was driven out of business by government meddling. If it's passed, it will artificially raise your monthly bill. Without wholesaling, you destroy economies of scale, which hurts everyone.

You can't legislate your way out of being jewed because the jews are the ones drafting the legislation and determining the tone of the public conversation.