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Ending net nutrality will be the best thing for the internet. By making people have to pay extra for social media sites it may end up limiting the access to those sites due to some people simply not wanting to pay to go to facebook or instagram etc. By limiting access to those sites the social media/fake news machine will have less control over peoples lives.
Just look at what cable is already doing with bundling everything. If they are allowed to get control over the internet they will tear it apart real quick and that's exactly what needs to happen. The internet needs to be destroyed and rebuilt in manner that makes in decentralized and has a higher barrier to entry to keep the women and normies out.
Something low bandwith would be great imho. That would essentially kill "media" No more porn, No more stacey and her selfies. No more tyrone showing off his stolen shoe collection.
This is one time where capitalism can actually use it's power to destroy a greater evil.
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>decentralized
Yes goy, let 6 companies control access! It's better!
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>people unironically think this will happen
Even if such a thing would happen a new company would be incentivized to sell non tiered unlimited plans and fuck over the large telcos. Billionaire overnight. Free market in action
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>>133361632
Just like how people set up telecoms to compete with Comcast right?
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This is bullshit propaganda.
Net Neutrality is just companies like Google and Netflix who are complete bandwidth hogs trying to get free access to as much bandwidth as possible while opening up the internet to public regulatory bodies.
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>Everyone will pay for it
>Sites like 4chan will be blocked by the liberal CEOs
>No porn
>But Stacey will pay for her selfies
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>>133361320
>By making people have to pay extra for social media sites
They won't make people have to pay extra for social media sites. They'll make people have to pay extra for using peer-to-peer-networking like bittorrent and outright block sites that they don't agree with. You can say goodbye to /pol/ because the jew-owned ISPs will obviously not tolerate the literal shoah that takes place here daily.
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>>133361320
How much do I have to pay for 4chan? I already have a Gold Account.
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>>133361632
Cable originally had no ad's and that was the appeal.
Have fun with your limited data plan on a modem.
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>>133362018
how do u even have internet
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>>133361736
Don't be stupid. There's no difference between Comcast's internet and telxos internet. However in this situation it would be different and competitive. Just the idea of someone offering regular unlimited internet would probably stop this FUD idea everyone has
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>>133361968
Except that Title II enables libcuck politicians to legally bar access to sites like 4chan. Because Common carriers are subject to the public regulatory body. Regulations can be changed by the body on a whim.
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>>133362082
It's stolen, ese.
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>>133362018
Visiting sites like 4chan would negatively impact your credit score, which is a good thing. I wouldn't want to hire someone who spends hours on a time wasting site.
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Good goy. Trust us. We won't fuck you over (again).
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>>133362018
Fucking rare
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>>133361320
I see the shills are out in full force today.
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You also forget most places, besides cities, only have one to two different ISPs
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>>133362208
Uncommon, not really rare.
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>>133362284
Net Neutrality doesn't fix that though. That's a symptom of a greater problem.
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You are all absolutely retarded. This will basically ban everybody from 4chan, we do not fucking want that.
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do you guise approve of my new toy?
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>>133361537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWoxUvWHtB4
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>>133362342
Fuck, I stay on 4chan because wikias and forums are absolute cancer for game discussion. Oh and all the fun shitflinging.
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>>133362336
But it will hurt most of those people
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>>133361320
Paying or social media means no more niggers. This anon could be right. Almonds have been deactivated for now.
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What are you guys talking about? Are there any keeids around? i think the internet should be shut down so KIDS cant get access to hear topics such as suicide being discussed. I think so
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>>133362533
>Niggers no being nigs and finding the money
Most niggers have new PS4s and Xboxes. They aren't actually poor
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I'm ready to return to comfy web 1.0 because of the throttling of non-normie web sites makes anything more unfeasible.
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>>133362497
No it fucking won't. Are you fucking retarded? The major content giants like Netflix and Jewgle are the ones pushing so hard for net neutrality because they want to defend their monopoly at the expense of the insane amount of public bandwidth they consume. The network providers are trying to get extra money out of them for the extra bandwidth that they use. Net Neutrality is literal corporate welfare.
Another side effect is that doing it via the "common carrier" branding opens it up to government regulation. And how is that working out in the UK? Do you want that?
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>>133361320
Down with net-neutrality. THe internet sucks now anyway
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>>133362342
>>133362467
Once net neutrality is dead, hopefully your ISPs will sell that data to credit agencies and they would affect your credit score to accurately reflect the type of individual you are.
If you are a productive person who visits educational sites and watches contemporary T, movies and documentaries, they would have a high credit score.
If they are a degenerate who watches anime, plays JRPGs and visits sites like 4chan, the credit score should be rightfully reduced.
Employers wouldn't want to hire someone who wastes their time and procrastinates. Hence all that new data would be very helpful to us in the hiring process.
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>>133362109
completely this, anything else is just obfuscating the point.
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>>133362957
facebook already does this.
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>>133361320
Because this strengthens the monopoly of ISP's.
It's important that we deregulate internet, but you're basically starting with something that prevents the monopolies from gang fucking you. If we're not going to remove all these regulations kikecast has that are preventing new ISPs from competing, then it's a huge mistake if what OP is suggesting happens.
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>>133362785
>Netflix and Jewgle
Those aren't monopolies dumbass. They're just the most popular choices so of course they're gonna use up a load of bandwidth.
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>>133362957
>Employers wouldn't want to hire someone who wastes their time and procrastinates.
You keep saying this crap but why should employers care what a person does in their downtime as long as it's a perfectly legal activity like vydia or reading shit online? Also
>implying it matters to me
I live in a jungle, I get all the bananas I need.
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>>133362785
I don't think you know what a monopoly is.
You could argue Netflix is close to one, but that's a bit of a stretch
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Here's how net neutrality works:
>be me.
>Use about 150 gigs a month.
>Pay 80 dollars a month for internet.
kind of overpriced but whatever. I didn't pick this ISP because it was the cheapest.
>be Jewgle.
>net neutrality
>feels good man.jpg
>use 150 gigs every nanosecond.
>also only pay 80 dollars a month.
>Feels Jew man.jpg
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>>133362957
>Once net neutrality is dead, hopefully your ISPs will sell that data
That has nothing to do with net neutrality.
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>>133361320
>jewbook&friends gets billions from ad revenue
>they expect everyone to pay a fee so they can watch ads
this is some next level judaism
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>>133363322
Do you unironically think that a corporate operation uses the same plans as a consumer? You're fucking retarded and anyone against net neutrally is too, it literally does nothing for the consumer especially considering all the internet companies are someone the most kikey out there.
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>>133363276
>>133363179
>Jewgle isn't a monopoly
>has almost exclusive control of advertising revenue on the internet via ad sense(the main source of internet revenue)
>literally gets to decide who succeeds or not on the internet.
>literally the God of the internet.
>buys up every popular site with it's bottomless pockets
>financial godmode enabled by government contracts galore.
>not a monopoly
>according to these faggots.
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>>133361632
>new company would be incentivized to sell non tiered unlimited plans and fuck over the large telcos.
Like it was done with Comcast?
>Billionaire overnight. Free market in action
Burgers actually believe this shit.
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>>133363647
>>133363647
fuck off shill the consumer will be fine with net neutrality
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>>133363728
Yes bit of can just not use Google, there's a difference between a web service and the actual service provider.
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>>133362041
Judging by history of mobile operators and their jewry in Russia, I'd say that the burger you're replying to is legitimately retarded.
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>>133363322
Nobody forces anyone to use google servives there's plenty of alternatives and nothing is stopping anyone from using them.
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>>133363728
The ONLY bit I'll give you is the ad revenue bit, but it's so fucking easy to get away from Google that it hurts.
I just choose not to because Android is okay I guess and FOSS is pretty easy to get working on android
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OP may I inquire about your religion?
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>>133362957
>they would have a high credit score.
In Reality. Some nigger will have a high (((credit))) score, while you will be banned for watching Prager University.
And rightly so, you cucks deserve to be fucked raw and pissed on by companies just for the sport.
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>>133363647
Of course they don't. But that's de facto what you brainwashed net neutrality faggots are pushing for. And guess who gets to pay for Jewgles bandwidth in that case? You. Because ISPs will pretty much have nowhere to pass the cost on to but the consumer (anything else would be illegal at that point).
I'm not saying companies like comcast aren't complete fucksticks (because they are). I'm not saying there doesn't need to be some kind of regulatory intervention to prevent them from gouging people with their monopolies like they are now.
But net neutrality is a fucking farce. The campaign for it is just one lie after another. There needs to be separate law. If Google et al. actually gave a fuck about the end consumer in all of this they would be pushing for separate legislation (as you should be) instead of some shitty Title II shortcut that puts the internet under the gun of public regulation.
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>>133361320
you voted for the orange cheeto man who put a internet neutrality hating pajeet in the FCC to please his rich job creating friends and now you get what you voted for
> muh redpill
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>>133363865
>You can just not use Google.
If you go to any webpage that is supported by Adsense you are using google. Or pretty much any webpage with an interactive map uses google map services.
There's scant few ways to use the internet left without going through google to get there. In fact 4chan is literally the only one that immediately comes to mind.
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>>133363179
>what is big data
Tell me, who do you think buys all of that data? It's google.
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What a fucking stupid idea. This has to be a shill post by a Comcast executive. If net neutrality ends, sites like these (4chan, cuckbart and all these right wing sites) will be shut down and all you'll have left are the ones ((they)) approve of.
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>>133364281
>ublock
>noscript
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>>133364142
Companies like Google have an entirely different tier of service, the increased rates of data usage come from the fact that more and more people are on the internet and are more reliant on streamed content. Of course Google and such are reliant on this but it's not like they're hogging up all the data it's being used to stream content.
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>>133363729
Remember when they took unlimited data plans away? Ever wonder why they are bringing unlimited cellular data plans back?
Because ATT and verizon were losing too many customers to Tmobile and other companies offering unlimited data plans.
Stop being a retard and go outside.
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>>133364423
>this retarded meme again
ISPs don't care what you browse on the internet. They just want your money. In fact here in Canada they have fought tooth and nail over the years to hold back anti-piracy efforts.
Whereas politicians believe they are God's chosen to dictate what people should or should not do and think.
If anything is going to lead to internet censorship it's fucking Title II you fuckwads.
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>>133364281
Yes but what I mean is that companies like Comcast provide the service directly and companies like Google aren't necessary for me to use the internet, so their monopoly has a significantly lessened impact on what I'm paying and my experience.
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>>133362092
There are places where it's literally illegal to set up new telcos
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>>133361320
>everyone will be going to prison for posting on /pol/ and will be paying $1700/mo for dial up that allows them access to Bing and MySpace
>Tom will be your only friend and each additional friend will be $50/mo
This is how things were most of my adult life. We don't want to go back to 2015 when Title II was implemented. Reddit is also pushing hard for this to be upheld, so just know we're not alone in this fight.
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>>133364566
You miss the point: they are selling the data transferred over the lines. Why should they be able to transfer their PRODUCT for the same price as the internet I pay for?
That is what this is really about.
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>>133364566
Who owns YouTube?
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>>133364423
Net Neutrality, as it exists now, has only been in effect for almost two years. The internet was just as functional before as it is now and it will remain so after "Net Neutrality" is removed.
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>>133364719
A monopoly de facto is a monopoly.
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>>133364720
^ This
The issue isn't how bandwidth is handled. The issue is that the great telecommunication Jew appropriated vast networks of telecom infrastructure that was originally built on the public dime and then used it to build corporate monopolies while using public regulators to shut competition out of the market. That's what needs to be solved. Net Neutrality leaves that issue completely unaddressed and really makes me think.
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>>133364819
So that the end user like you or I doesn't have to pay even more?
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>>133361320
>decentralized
>>>/zeronet/
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>>133365152
Nothing about Net Neutrality says you don't have to pay more. It potentially puts the rates you pay into the hands of the regulators who have their palms greased by people like telecom CEO's to begin with.
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>>133361320
this picture is such a stupid strawman I can't take anyone who argues with it seriously
t. network engineer
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>>133364819
>implying the internet wasn't literally Shlomo in 2015
Then how come when I watched Schindler's List on Netflix my living room became a home theater and I got a Soros check in the mail, but when I tried to watch 2016: Obama's America on Netflix I got swatted? This was life 2 years ago.
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>>133365416
This. The only thing I've seen from the Net Neutrality side is shit-for-brains strawman arguments. Because the pro NN side is completely unresearched by the useful idiots peddling it.
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>>133364816
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>>133361320
Why does anyone hate this picture? Every time I see it I think it's the best advertisment for it, you CURRENTLY already pay for every package in this image, if net neutrality passes at worst you can rebuy the package and in better cases you save money by not buying shit you don't want
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Guys but the porn
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>>133361320
GET OUT JEW
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>>133361320
How about give me the fucking bandwidth I pay for and shove your metering up your asshole?
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>>133361320
The content of the sites can't justify raising cost enough to price niggers out of the market...with gibs bucks, niggers have 400.00 cell phones and Xboxes, huge flat screen TVs...etc
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>>133361320
You wanna see the world burn, huh anon? When ISPs get the ability to throttle down any website they want, just imagine what they would do to websites like 4chan.
Comcast owns MSNBC for example, so they would throttle down and try to eliminate all of their competition.
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>>133361320
Ending net nutrality will be the best thing for the internet.
Are you a fucking politician kys sage.
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>>133365751
Nothing wrong with soft core porn. Its only the hardcore and degenerate stuff that will reduce your credit score.
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>>133365796
Did you build thousands of miles of broadband network lines and spend millions of $ every year maintaining them?
No.
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>>133363445
THis is a fucking lie. which is all you do is lie, you have nothing else to do on the internet, but waste everyones time then claim oh im gonna steal everything blah bla
the stupid JEWS are trying to push their religion on the internet because thats all this any stupid shit about the internt ever is, is THEM trying to say THEIR BETTER than EVERYONE ELSE.
Thats it.
stop fuckign LYING, cause yoru stupid we dont care about your arguement.. PLease be very clear when you decide to fuck up everything claiming someone position is wrong like you did faggot and tell us yours instead of trying to get everyone to guess.
this is their divide and conquer tactic on COMMUNICATION because theyre a bunch of a fucking idiots
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>>133363493
Ohohooooho
Let me try to act like its ok and stuff and defend their position by
making it
look
like its ok
oohoohoooo
good day on the internet to waste everybodys stupd time isnt it RETARD
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>>133368338
>PL-ease
Are you negro?
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>>133363729
you dont know nothing shut your godamn mouth nigger faggot
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>>133368463
fuck off. can you answer my question.
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>>133361632
The problem is these companies get tons of government gibs to put in the necessary infrastructure which ends up removing competition since you start out at such a disadvantage without billions in gibs.
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>>133368592
google it you ignorant faggot
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>>133361320
>No more porn
You lost me
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>>133361632
duhhh
what the fuck is this supposed to even be about?
some company sells unlimited internet access at some rounded advertised mbps speed at some set price?
>Hmm WELl WHER HAVE I NEVER HEARD ABOUT THIS BEFORE.jpeg
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>>133368829
Why? Who needs porn anyway? Just go outside and fuck something/someone
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>Niggers cant afford internet
>Start looting
>So angry that their dormant negro psychic powers emerge
>Now have one hive mind
>You get personally dominted by a Progerian Negress
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>>133368795
YOUR A PI9ECE OF GODAMN SHIT THE OTHER PERSON WHO I REPLIED TO SAID SOMEONE ELESE POSISIOT IS TOTALLY WRONG
SO YOU CAN GO FUCK YOURSELF AND EXPLAIN YOURSELF FIRST AND FUCK OFF I DONT EVEN CARE YOUR AN IDIOT WITHOUT A POSITION
EXCEPT FOR ON YOUR KNEES TO THE JEWS SUCKING THEIR DICK
GODAMN I MEAN fuck these conversations are completely idiotic.
I rmember valve and the way their jewed their game they didnt care and talked shit, shut down the forums. GO to FUCKING HELL
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>>133368829
Porn has done more damage to society than most people realize.
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>>133361320
Shut up, you fucking retard
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Don't fall for the obvious shill, friendos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K88BU3kjZ-c
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>>133368982
the NIGGERS WILL TAKE OVER THE WORLD
I FUCKING HAD THIS DREAM LAST NIGHT IM SO AHEAD OF THE JEWS ON THEIR NIGGERED NIGGEROID DESTRUCTION OF THE PLANET.
Im gonna tell you guys the truth. i had this dream the other night as well so its very clear to me.
Listen this is their real plan. This is their "scare tactic" its always worked, and its so stupid it works on society like, outside. but on the internet.. everyone is not able to actually.. be racist. because you would cut your own self off from talking if so.
SO. The plan is the usual plan. The one they always use. Blacks, niggers are gonna all get mad if the internet can't get incentivized.
what the fuck are you guys talking about>>133368982
YOur guys biggest fear is people working together as one. YOU are literally using niggers as a scare tactic on people to try to attempt to take over the intenret.
LIke by being on the internet, the niggers will somehow form a big uprising of niggersdness.
Image their worried about online, communities guys.
LIke this one.
>>133368929
This is what how valve done, they used these people to "explain" it to you. He's not answering anything. He is yelling and he has a parrot in submission who's he's talking down to. SO they can advertise, tell you about it. Thats why you tell these fucks to go suck a dick.
>>133368795
like example this faggot here thinks i care, i told him you cant tell someone their completely wrong.
i just came back in ill check over this entire shit now and see how many shit birds there are
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>>133368929
gee, let me just go outside and come back with girlfriend within 72 hours, regardless of my past spergisms that have ruined me socially
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>>133364281
retard
CAPTCHA is run by google. I run my fuckign nigger shit however i want to .
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>>133364294
im so scared of all that data
OOOoooh fuck
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>>133362359
We told you once before WE DO NOT APPROVE OF DILDOS.
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>>133361320
pic related when it happens? you think so or no? I think so
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The shills are really coming out of the basement today.
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>>133361320
Go fuck yourself faggot.
SAGE
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>>133362082
Dammit Leaf you my tea run out from my nose.
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>>133367078
I think they should totally do like wtv the fuck they do durpdurpdurp
Lets at least not talk about what they say OP>>133361320
cause htey used the same word for what net neutrality or I call it internet anonimity and any defintion belong not to it, IST NOT what the internet is. Anything different that is not internet anonimity. is not what you want.
You niggers decided to cal it something else, net neutrality. THen you tried to pretend its over someoen else. Then now you cant even speak to people straight when you talk
I think its a jew tactic since noone is being addressed here. they come around, along, spew this bullshit, pretends anyone agrees, does their shit the next day, shows some shallow agreement to them, claims they won, nad everon eneeds to start following this new made up religion
i prety sure its all jewy
And since you cant bring up a topic and describe how it affects me any and including this godamn dicksucker on the intenret >>133368795
HOw about this you faggot, how about i come search your ass out and kill you fagogt shut yuor godamn mouth up at me
Your all a bunch of pussies, you cant do nohting but threaten everybody and you cant even say what it is what your talking about,
so you all can STFU
fuck you
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>>133361843
This. Companies that use bandwidth for their business want to see the cost shifted to consumers so they can keep profits high. Google, Amazon, Mozilla, and many more companies bitching about net neutrality actively censor and manipulate content based on how it fits into their political views. But now those same companies care about your right to free expression and equality of information exchange? Bullshit.
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>>133370908
Mozilla was always for freedoms.
How would Mozilla, EFF or FSF profit from this exactly?
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>>133362665
They sell those at GameStop for 1/10th of the price at the end of the month for cigarettes and weed.
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>>133361968
Like that would stop us. We're too autistic to know when to stop even if we wanted to. And then their is the amounts of autism that 4chan and /pol/ exhibit on a daily basis.
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>companies push tiered internet
>people set up meshnet to cope with it
>companies forced to either go back to unlimited access or push legislation to outlaw meshnet
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>>133361632
My 'unlimited' data plan was just capped at 22gb. Looking for another plan
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The problem with this way of thinking is you're assuming the internet is the cause for the decline of the West, when really the moral fiber and integrity of the West has been degrading for long before the internet was created. The internet just exposes this decline more profoundly than any other medium. If you limit people's access to the internet you're not going to change people's character and collective worth/purpose within our society. People, still be feuled by vapid materialism and narcissism, will just find another outlet provided to them by the free market and the decline will continue. Unless you're in upper management at a big ISP, there's really no benefit to be from this
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>>133371041
Mozilla fired a CEO for donating to a political cause they didn't like. They don't give a fuck about your freedom.
Mozilla uses tons of bandwidth to collect data from people using their browser, how do you think they make money from a "free" browser?
That data collection requires tons of bandwidth that they don't want to pay more for. Net neutrality forces those costs on everyone across the board, so you pay for Mozzilla to make money from your data.
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>>133371041
Strawman
>>133371717
MOzilla claimed you had rights on their browser. Right after this shit they turned it into a phone browser, doing shit for you your uncapable to do becuase of all those phone limitations right? like that smart bar or wtv fuckign stupid shit that makes it a complete waste of my time now. and my hardrive space. ...you know. fuckign everything.
then they started pinging to amazon phone home for money? and people noticed it? then they said they took it down. They didnt the other day it still pings, i got a blocker and after clearing some settings, started it up and that was up and a hit from amazon.
they dont even really collect data, they just steal information and send it to someone else.
It has nothign to do with anythign, except for maybe making up .. a false reality.
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>>133361320
>Ring Ring
>Moshi Moshi Comcast Desu
>Ohh Hirrary-san
>Yes, Drudge, they using many bandwith
>You want I make them supa-premium, that would be
>Ohh you hearth wiff many Sentor brocking our Time-Warner merga
>Yes Madam President, we heath you rong time.
>Any otha webshites you want ush to handre?
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>>133372144
>making up .. a false reality
there is absolutly, no reason, for the data is my point
any discussio about this dumb crap, or asking why, is RETARDED, you literally, need to be mentally retarded to consider it
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Anyone notice how there's tons of cellular companies popping up that lease bandwidth from AT&T, but that hasn't happened at all with home ISPs? Why is that?
Being completely uninformed on the subject, I'm curious why competition in the home ISP industry is stagnant unlike most other mediums.
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>>133372274
holy shit this is brilliant
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>>133361843
>trying to get free access
Said companies already pay their ISPs millions upon millions, but thanks for playing you disingenuous liar.
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>>133364142
The ISPs accepted millions upon millions in tax breaks specifically to build out their network to support emerging companies like Netflix and Google, they are just using idiots like you who don't know about it or lie about it to push their message of letting them off the hook for a buildout they should have done years ago.
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>>133362785
Exactly Google is a monopoly. People would be using Bing if they had free choice.
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>>133372406
Samefag here. I found this interesting article:
https://arstechnica.com/business/2014/04/one-big-reason-we-lack-internet-competition-starting-an-isp-is-really-hard/
/pol/ is right. We're trying to fix shitty government regulation with more regulation.
We also need to do more about frivolous lawsuits. How can a startup company survive if they're being slammed by the big kid on the block.
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>>133368795
I dont care about google, i hate google
Since they dont even ask for their search results that they use as Stolen shti for their "free advertising"
Why dont (((THEY))) shut down for a day, to show everyone on the internet, Oh how much we need them?
make it 2 or 3 days.
the internet would be a 1000x better, chat rooms would open up everywhere. people would start to recieve help, becuase besides me totell everyone you piece of shit oin the internet, why else do i come on here for?
fuck you
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>>133363865
Yeah, and the ISP is the one footing the bill for all that bandwidth. Why not work on encouraging competition instead of slapping a band-aid on the issue and preventing the ISP from recouping costs of their infrastructure.
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>>133371717
You're shitting me. Firefox is free and open source software, many security experts have audited it, you can audit it yourself, they don't datamine shit. Kys cuck.
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The future looks grim in my opinion.
South Korea already have a system in place where games need your social security credentials to log in.
Denmark also has a similar system which can be implemented any time now.
If they get that shit rolling into a big snowball on larger websites, it will be the end of anonymity.
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>>133364766
>Why should they be able to transfer their PRODUCT for the same price as the internet I pay for?
You are either intentionally pretending to be retarded or beyond help.
You pay to get the service of internet connectivity to the greater world wide web. So does Netflix and Google. Comcast and their ilk are going up to Netflix and saying:
"Well, it would be a reaaaaaaaaall crying shame if anything happened to those packets while they come in to the users on my turf. Fo a small fee I can protect them and make sure they are delivered real quick and easy" and because mouth-breathers like you don't understand this Netflix pays up because people didn't immediately fuck Comcast's shit up for mafia-like protection racket schemes.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13417559
http://www.strawpoll.me/13417559
http://www.strawpoll.me/13417559
settle this
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>>133361320
Fuck you.
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>>133373578
>Yeah, and the ISP is the one footing the bill for all that bandwidth
Yep, those millions upon millions of government tax breaks that allowed them to become huge ISPs never happened and the ISPs don't owe the American Tax-payer a goddamn thing
Go read the Telecom Act of '96
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>>133362957
and this is why we need a third world war with a nuclear outcome and anarchy afterwards.
the smartest motherfuckers (anime watching nerds) would easily build a civ (rome) keeping all the normies (barbarians) out.
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>>133373276
nope
it is a free choice
both require $0
people choose google freely
the market has spoken
>By limiting access to those sites the social media/fake news machine will have less control over peoples lives.
freedom is slavery
ignorance is strength
black is white
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>>133374081
Thank you for helping me make my case. It seems our government made a huge mistake and now you expect them to fix it through regulation.
Go read up on cognitive dissonance.
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>>133373578
>Yeah, and the ISP is the one footing the bill for all that bandwidth
no, the civilian ISP customers pay half, right up to the ISP of the providers/hosters
google and the like, the commercial/industrial/govt sites on the other end pay for the other half of the connection between you and them
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>>133373578
>Why not work on encouraging competition instead of slapping a band-aid on the issue and preventing the ISP from recouping costs of their infrastructure.
p.s.
what the hell?
this is they do with their revenue!
they set the costs they need/are able to, or they dont exist!
i mean.... wow
are you ok?
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>>133374554
>It seems our government made a huge mistake
No you sod, that is not what I said or implied. The government in a rare moment of clarity saw that the internet was going to be huge and pervasive and that having it built out to as much of the US as possible was for the best. So they offered ISPs huge tax breaks on the singular condition that they build out networks that could support that growth.
The ISPs have screwed over the American public by reneging on their end of the deal but the NN rules have been dragging them along and forcing them to live up to their side of the bargain. If they are smashed (which the shills here are advocating for) the ISPs will be able to resume fucking over Americans while still not paying the taxes that would have been levied if the Act was not forged.
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Op is a perfect example of Conservatives ignorantly voting against their own economic interests because they love corporate cocks down their throats
Good lil bootlickers
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>>133374554
>It seems our government made a huge mistake and now you expect them to fix it through regulation.
yes, exactly
go on....
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>>133361320
What do you think they'll do to 4chan, huh?
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>>133361320
Leave the internet alone you fucking authoritarian cuck. Go back to the fucking No's.
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>>133375911
*Neo's
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>>133361320
these corps have never done this thus far, NN is all scare mongering crap from leftards that worship government boots on their throats
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>>133369294
Fuck off moral policing Conservashits
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If net neutrality was kill wouldn't the free market serve the interests of its investors?
example: say every ISP or package or whatever the fuck happens blocks any site that isn't the kikiest leftist drivel on the web. What would stop a person or company from introducing their own ISP or package that would allow these sites for a great price? Then when all of the non blue pilled folks are bringin in all the profits for this person/company, the rest of them will have to unkike themselves to compete. Right?
all I know is nothing socialized works, and the free market could fix the internet like it did healthcare.
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>>133376221
> implying Conservashits don't worship corporate cocks down their throats
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>>133376346
>not wanting to give the feds more power means I worship corporations
gas yourself kike
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>>133376221
>these corps have never done this thus far
See: Comcast Shake-down of Netflix and Verizon's Zero-Rating scheme
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>>133361320
>Reddit is against NN
>Reddit constantly shills for the Jews, the DNC, public schooling, vaccines, race mixing, communism, UBI, and other Jewish schemes
Tell me why their anti-NN stance is not another Jewish trick.
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>trusting the Republicans with how the Internet is provided to the public
Holy shit, you Americans are even dumber then I thought.
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Fun fact. I added up the costs of the services that I would use and it ended up $3 less than what I already pay for....
I mean sure, currently I get 200mps with unlimited data.but there isn't much of a price difference. Also I'm sure someone is gonna point out that I have faster speeds now that what this ad is offering but this ad has to be outdated with Myspace and Napster/Rhapsody on it.
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>>133376525
In this case it does as it has literally no benefit for you as a consumer.
>"gas yourself kike"
>But supports the ISP CEOs shaking him and Netflix down monthly
Oy Vey
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>>133376898
>and Netflix down monthly
fuck netflix
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>>133363322
This is the dumbest fucking retarded """""""""""""argument"""""""""""" I've heard so far. At least take some time to research what you're arguing before embarrassing yourself.
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>>133362284
94.6% of zip codes have 4 or more ISPs available
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This is so ironic that the libcuck mods are heavily promoting this when Hiro is currently datamining us
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>>133361320
I just want poor people off of the internet again. They can go to the library and browse world star and social media. I also want people like Zuckerberg to go away.
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>>133377034
>Yeah and fuck 4chan!, oh wait, that is the one I use and like...
It's easy when it's a service or company you don't like but when it's one you do you will have literally no recourse but to bitch and moan because you didn't stand on principle instead of emotion.
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>>133377380
>I also want people like Zuckerberg to go away.
>He thinks that FB won't be the only ones readily able to pay the internet tax and the company that could beat the shit out of FB like FB did to MySpace won't be cucked out of existence if NN is smashed.
Oh, Jew!
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>>133377398
>on principle
My principle are not fighting for things that don't affect me
Why should I give a shit if netflix gets throttled
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>>133377591
>Reading comprehension Level: Pre-school
I am informing you that your myopic view of the situation based on your blind emotion doesn't let you see that just because services you hate will get shafted does not mean that services you like and use will not.
But if you stood on principle you would see all sides protected.
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>>133361320
I call bs
its never gonna happen, msm is the biggest jew tool to manipulate masses why would they stop doing that?
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>>133372757
Those companies pay for a certain amount of megabits per second, not for the amount of data they put out. Worse, they're located in private datacenters like the several NAPs, and they don't even go onto the big 3 ISPs lines until the last minute to avoid paying. There was a huge debate about this with Netflix and their interconnect fees.
Either way, the reality is that they're fundamentally underpaying. Especially when you take into account the nature of the data rather than just the amount. For example, Skype lets you make free phone calls, and they pay a pittance to the ISPs while still using their internet network to make those phone calls.
Not only that, Skype didn't make a capital investment of literally billions of dollars, but they're still profiting off the ISPs
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>>133377788
>that services you like and use will not.
Nobody was throttling 4chan
>you would see all sides protected.
Again why should I protect my enemies?
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>>133361320
Slide this shit down to hell.
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>>133376252
There was no formal, codified, net neutrality regulation until 2015. And this package shit never happened. It's a corporate lie invented by (((Google))) (((Facebook))) and (((Amazon)))
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>>133361320
>no more porn
I need porn you faggot.
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>>133364816
Master Blaster
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>>133361843
For the love of god this.
Hmmm....it's almost like all the websites like facebook, google, and Reddit have a vested interest in keeping the current price system. Surely they wouldn't funnel information to the legions of dummies who use their platforms to support this....surely
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>>133377966
>Either way, the reality is that they're fundamentally underpaying.
What the fuck are you even talking about? How are they under-paying? They are paying for corporate internet on the level of massive data center connects, and their agreement for such connections:
IS WITH THEIR ISP
If you had a leg to stand on it would have been Netflix's own ISP that made the big stink. It was not. It was Comcast literally holding their users hostage under the lie that Netflix was clogging up their pipes even though within 24hrs. the issue was resolved when Netflix paid their protection racket.
Okay, fine let's take your assumption that Netflix is really to blame at face value (Even though its bullshit): Netflix offered to install FREE SERVER BOXES WITH ALL THEIR MOVIES ON THEM TO ANY ISP
Free, but Comcast refused and demanded their shake-down money. It's almost as though Comcast is full of shit and doesn't actually want to resolve the clogging on an infrastructure level and just wants to change extra for mediocre service.
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>>133361320
Reminder to sage and ignore all jewish communist shill threads
sage
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>>133378503
>Comcast literally holding their users hostage
>literally
woman detected
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Net Neutrality FAQ:
1. Who supports NN?
Reddit, (((4chan mod team))), Google, Facebook, Netflix, Amazon, Twitter, Snapchat, AirBnb, Spotify, etc. Notice how all of these groups are leftist.
2. Will anti-NN legislation "bundle" the internet?
No, this is a commonly repeated Jewish lie like "communism works". If a company "bundles" the internet, another one will not bundle and get all the customers, just as the free market intended.
3. Are they going to block/restrict/slow down 4chan?
No. They have the technology and legal basis to do this right now, but they aren't doing it. Anti-NN legislation won't change a thing.
4. We need to fight for NN or the internet will go into the hands of the evil corporations and Republicans!
Obama already gave control of the internet to the United Nation in 2016. This is still in effect.
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>>133378825
>A hostage is a person or entity which is held by one of two belligerent parties to the other or seized as security for the carrying out of an agreement
That is the definition of the word you fucking moron.
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Ive been defending net neutrality as if this was about to happen here, but you know what? Since burgers will lose money I am all for its abolishment lol.
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>>133379101
How is comcast holding you?
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The oligopoly that owns ISPs also owns MSNBC, Univision and (soon) CNN. They also shit on Newscorp.
They'll be happy to have more control over our media, good job anti-net neutrality cucks.
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indeed. the only reason the "fight" exists is not because companies give a fuck if it's neutral or not, but because they know other companies would pay ISPs for special privileges. the smaller sites would get fucked.
if you're worried about ISPs fucking you over, don't - it'll be the companies that do.
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>>133378993
>If a company "bundles" the internet, another one will not bundle
You mean like how if a company sets limits one wont. Or like all those cable companies that give you free HBO,2,3,4 Ohh ohhh, Yeah, they all do the same thing dont they. Its most like theres only 5 ISPs to choose from or less and they dont give a shit about you.
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>>133361320
OP is an idiot, if this passes we will have to make meshnet work cause the "internet" will be well and truely dead.
besides everyone and their grandma linking to "battle for the net" what are you actually doing? same as what you did with PRISM ? yeah, think about it.
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>>133379274
>and (soon) CNN.
Good
>CNN boss in crosshairs if AT&T-Time Warner merger approved
http://nypost.com/2017/06/28/cnn-boss-in-crosshairs-if-att-time-warner-merger-approved/
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It will lead to cable cutting wars between different websites.
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>>133378993
>, another one will not bundle and get all the customers, just as the free market intended.
everywhere except america this already happens
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>>133361537
6 companies > 1 fuckface gov
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>>133379263
Comcast held their customers' traffic hostage by intentionally slowing down their packets and indirectly throttling their service.
A factual: "You want to reach these people? Well they are mine and you will have to pay me to reach them"
Notice: I did not say "literal physically hostage" like you are implying to score cheap grammar-nazi points. I said they are holding them hostage in the lens of being their customer.
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>>133374081
>Government doesn't steal quite as much of their profits thru taxes
>Welfare
Pick one faggot
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>>133379730
>A factual: "You want to reach these people? Well they are mine and you will have to pay me to reach them"
More like you have to pay me to use my infrastructure to reach them
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>>133364142
>implying they aren't all in on it, together
They're all controlled by kikes.
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>>133379974
which is why they all built massive content delivery networks and gave ISPs free servers.
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>>133362957
This is the most ridiculous and patently ignorant thing I think I've ever seen with regards to net neutrality.
You must be a troll, because nobody with even a modicum of financial proficiency would ever advocate for private browsing habits to somehow correlate with credit worthiness.
Do you know how many fucking degenerates create mind-bogglingly complex and efficient computer infrastructures?
The software that you utilize and enjoy was probably coded by a furry fapping alcoholic.
Mandating your insane ideals of human regulation via credit score gunpoint is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of, and the consequential brain drain and reduction in quality of life for people isn't worth you getting your nut to some neoreactionary inquisition.
TL;DR ur a fucking faggot and have no idea what you're talking about
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>people unironically think this will happen
Even if such a thing would happen a new company would be incentivized to sell non tiered unlimited plans and fuck over the large telcos. Billionaire overnight. Free market in action
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>>133379974
A canard and a cheap one too. Comcast's subscribers paid them handsomely for the service and Comcast benefited from millions and millions of government tax breaks and subsidies to make it happen. Now Netflix should pay not only their ISP but also Comcast just because? Fuck that, next thing they will find a way to |quadruple| dip and the shills here will defend that.
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>>133380970
Ok then stop paying comcast
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>>133362957
>lol, "fuck you"-comedy
why yuo do dis
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>>133381217
I don't, but millions of other Americans have no other choice in their market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso
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>>133381952
you know you dont have to have the internet in your home
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>>133382040
You know, you don't |need| water directly to your home
:- Corporations to the sad-fucks that let corporations own their water-supply and apply the same fuckery that ISPs are now trying out.
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>>133382272
>You know, you don't |need| water directly to your home
where did I say you did?
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>>133382040
protip:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
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>>133361320
shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill
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>>133382530
I was making an analogy so that you would see how absurd it is that we drag ourselves to the dark ages instead of sorting some corporate oligarchy bullshit.
But oh well, since you are daft then how about you go look into what happens when corporations decided the rich were the only ones that should be able to afford the utility of water in several towns.
Spoiler: The massive riots were not as fun as they look
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>>133382889
read it
that is the fallacy you used
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>>133361320
FUCK OFF
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>>133382889
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
He is telling you that there is no need for your false dilemma where swathes of people don't get internet service.
We could just leave the NN rules as is and not engage in some would-be Hunger Games bullshit, but we already confirmed you to be an idiot so hey guess this is all gibberish to you.
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>>133383136
>>133383205
What false dilemma?
You said they dont have a choice
I said they did
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>>133361320
>Trump wins because he can manage his online personality and has loyal fans on the internet who tear apart leftist talking points 24/7
>"We need to restrict people's access to the internet."
Riiight. I think I see who's behind that republican flag.
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>>133361320
Haha wow I guess I'm convinced, can't wait until they end net neutrality and shut down /pol/
wtf I love comcast now!
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>>133361320
Holy shit OP you might be right
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>>133374281
that is debatable mister
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>>133383314
no
you said there are 2 choices:
accept it as it is
OR
dont use it at all
... were the 2, and only 2, you presented as valid
whereas the false dilemma of it is that there are either
*1 and only one
OR
*3+ possible valid choices
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>>133383314
>What false dilemma?
>you know you dont have to have the internet in your home
That presents a situation where those not well off or in areas can either:
A) Pay through the nose to get internet service and forgo other necessities
B) Fuck off and walk to their library to use the dial-up
This dilemma is false and nastily intellectually dishonest as there is a third much more viable option:
Leave ISPs as Title 2 and leave the NN rules in place.
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>>133361320
I'm noticing the libtards really, REALLY don't want us to get rid of Net Neutrality. I wonder why that is? Any thoughts on why libtards would want to keep Net Neutrality, /pol/?
Hint: Massive government control of the internet instead of letting businesses compete for success. Sound familiar? Obamacare, post office, DMV, public schools. Those are all massively controlled by the government. What are they like? Would you consider any of them to be high quality?
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>>133383651
>Making this a left-right issue when its a more simple "Get fucked by your ISPs greed or not" issue.
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>>133362174
I hope you die.
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>>133362957
>i don't understand what a credit score actually is
it's for lending risk, retard
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>>133383651
WTF i guess you're right, can't wait to pay $95 per post on 4chan!
I love comcast now!
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>>133383601
>you said there are 2 choices:
where
>>133383644
>That presents a situation where those not well off or in areas can either:
No it doesnt
I was just stating a fact
You dont have to pay comcast if they are the only ISP in your area because you dont have to have the internet
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>>133361320
There are some seriously buttdetonated motherfuckers ITT. OP is goddamn right and you know it. All you morons probably post in 1990's were the best decade threads, nofap threads, share "degeneracy on Twitterz" jpgs and complain about selfies.
We need to make it so only conservatives with jobs can use social media. Its to preserve the entire country. So many bloggers couldn't afford it, so many attention whores would be gone.
Once the ability for degenerate shitloads of attention goes away from white women they will become more willing to fuck people and have more babies. Nobody wants to pay 20 bucks a month for Tinder.
If you want to stop degeneracy than put your money where your mouth is because ending net neutrality is the best way at this juncture to accomplish degeneracy curbing.
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>>133383848
Either you are being intentionally dense about what you did or you are pulling a:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_meddlesome_priest%3F
Either way: Not worth arguing with.
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>>133383990
Wow, you're so right! I love comcast now!
I can't wait until comcast charges $0.99 per 4chan post!
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>>133383848
>where
in this thread, your posts, up above, scroll up
>I was just stating a fact
You dont have to pay comcast if they are the only ISP in your area because you dont have to have the internet
yes, that is but ONE (the least desirable by far) of 3+ options, most preferable being this one (last line):
>>133383644
>>
WTF I love Cox now!
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>>133384072
What the fuck are you talking about?
What does this have to do with anything?
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>>133383651
>I'm noticing the libtards really, REALLY don't want us to get rid of Net Neutrality. I wonder why that is? Any thoughts on why libtards would want to keep Net Neutrality, /pol/?
thats like one fallacy for every 2 words
well done
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Could somebody explain what net neutrality is and what it would mean to end it, as in what law is being enforced and on whose authority?
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>>133361320
you are fucking retarded
>>
WTF I LOVE VERIZON NOW
CANT WAIT TO PAY $10/100MB
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>>133384263
>in this thread, your posts, up above, scroll up
quote the post
>yes, that is but ONE (the least desirable by far)
Your opinion
>of 3+ options, most preferable being this one (last line):
Where did I say there are only two options dipshit?
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>>133383651
Net Neutrality FAQ:
>1. Who supports NN?
Reddit, (((4chan mod team))), Google, Facebook, Netflix, Amazon, Twitter, Snapchat, AirBnb, Spotify, etc. Notice how all of these groups are leftist.
>2. Will anti-NN legislation "bundle" the internet?
No, this is a commonly repeated Jewish lie like "communism works". If a company "bundles" the internet, another one will not bundle and get all the customers, just as the free market intended.
>3. Are they going to block/restrict/slow down 4chan?
No. They have the technology and legal basis to do this right now, but they aren't doing it. Anti-NN legislation won't change a thing. This is just another Jewish fiction design to cause panic.
>4. We need to fight for NN or the internet will go into the hands of the evil corporations and Republicans! Keep the internet free and independent!
Obama already gave control of the internet to the United Nations in 2016. This is still in effect..
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>>133384293
.....
are ... are you joking?
please be joking
please
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>>133384499
Wow, I guess you're right! I love comcast now!
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>>133361320
And what if they keep facebook and mass media free but make people pay for any alternative content you dumb chimp?
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>>133384499
You know, what you dont get is. A ISP only needs to supply like 200 websites to pacify the majority of their customers. Which means anything else can be designated to premium. Amazon, Google, Facebook they like NN because they dont want to pay Comcast to keep their websites on the basic plan but they will because they have the money to do so.
4chan, Britbart, Zerohedge, your VPN, Every alternate media outlet, that MMO you like that no one plays, Your TOR network you get on to buy drugs and Childporn. Everything that makes the internet interesting, useful and free, does not have the money to pay.
The abolishment of NN will remove 99% of the internet in a matter of years.
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>>133384599
not an argument
please state where you came up with this nonsense that there are only two choices and what it has to do with anything?
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>>133384478
>>in this thread, your posts, up above, scroll up
>quote the post
you need to brush up on wikipedias logical fallacy list about as bad as you need AIR
>>yes, that is but ONE (the least desirable by far)
Your opinion
no, that is the least desirable for both the customers and the company
>Where did I say there are only two options dipshit?
is your scroll wheel broken?
are you ESL?
are you semi-pro baiting?
Do not tread on my patience.
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>>133367481
Neither did telcom jews. They were all built by public funding you fucking twat.
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>>133361320
op you might think this is a good idea because you are a normie computer user but for programmers and IT people this will be awful
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>>133361320
Ending net neutrality will just give birth to a new internet that has net neutrality.
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>>133384748
bait me twice shame on me
bait me 3+ times, i must sepukku
nor shall i quote your own posts for you
click your thread-ID and it highlights only your posts ITT
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Only normie cancerous boomer faggots dislike net neutrality.
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>>133384953
>Ending net neutrality will just give birth to a new internet that has net neutrality.
nope, collusion will ensure that doesnt happen
there will be no choice to NOT be forced into a la carte plans
kiss netflix & torrents goodbye unless you have plenty of disposable income
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>>133384846
>you need to brush up on wikipedias logical fallacy list about as bad as you need AIR
How is asking you for a quote a logical fallacy?
>no, that is the least desirable for both the customers and the company
your opinion
>is your scroll wheel broken?
>are you ESL?
>are you semi-pro baiting?
quote the post fucktard
>Do not tread on my patience.
or what faggot
>>133384995
>nor shall i quote your own posts for you
because just like the 6 million it never happened
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>>133384414
Net neutrality means all your data is treated equal basically meaning your ISP can't throttle or limit your traffic based on where it is coming from.
One example would be Comcast blocking all peer to peer traffic from bittorrent about 10 years back.
The biggest worry many about ending net neutrality is it would create "fast lanes" and "slow lanes" for internet where
A) Companies would pay isps for "premium" speeds and services
B) You would pay extra to access to "premium" speeds and services
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>>133361320
>Implying reducing the number of American poster is bad
O vey another shoa
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>>133385260
>kiss netflix & torrents goodbye unless you have plenty of disposable income
Good riddance
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>>133385351
>How is asking you for a quote a logical fallacy?
"i am somehow unable to read the thread im reading and posting in"
>your opinion
ah yes, there may be a significant portion of schizophrenics among them who wish for less money and no internet access
good point
>quote the post fucktard
"how i scroll up?? how am i supposed to figure this tech shit out? "scroll up" FFS im not a professional programmer/hacker!"
>or what faggot
or you get to bait only yourself
>because just like the 6 million it never happened
im sorry for your serious... browser issue? govt censorship issue? isp censorship issues? broken scroll wheel? *shrug*
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> Be ISP
> Net Neutrality is gone
> Have tier pricing on top of basic package for popular website like Netflix and Youtube
> Someone gets idea to sell cheaper internet with no tier program
> Introduce cheaper and all in one internet
> People vote with their dollar and sign up for other service
> Other company goes bankrupt or changes its policies
Without Net Neutrality we will get a more competitive/cheaper/faster internet
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>>133385548
i know exactly what it is
>A) Companies would pay isps for "premium" speeds and services
B) You would pay extra to access to "premium" speeds and services
those are protection rackets
skip the "but how" sophistry
if you dont know how then it is because you have decided to not see, and no one can force you to see
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>>133385733
Guy, that guy isn't worth the tiny movement of your fingers or the capcha, he is intentionally being an idiot or just truly stupid enough not to know what he was doing with that line.
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>>133385668
that is your choice for you
no one else
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>>133385260
Collusion didn't stop piracy in the 80s.
Collusion didn't stop online piracy in the 90s and it still hasn't stopped it.
But let's tempt your scenario and say there won't be a second internet.
There's still the option to abstain.
I know it would be made very inconvenient and you'd be a social outcast for staying out of the shillternet, but I'd probably do it.
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>>133361843
>>133370908
>>133378441
Correct. Thank you, anons.
>>133372757
>UN flag
Don't come here anymore, you shilling pile of shit.
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>>133385733
>"i am somehow unable to read the thread im reading and posting in"
You said I said something now prove it
>good point
thank you
>"how i scroll up??
to where
if this post exists why is it so hard for you to find it?
>or you get to bait only yourself
there are like 10 other NN threads right now
>im sorry for your serious... browser issue? govt censorship issue? isp censorship issues? broken scroll wheel? *shrug*
not an argument
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>>133361320
I'm skeptical about it. I've still yet to get an answer to why companies did nothing since this pic, which was from 2009 from Reddit no less, and NN wasn't an issue until 2015 when a bill passed.
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>>133361320
this,
smash facebook
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>>133386003
And if ISPs throttle netflix why should I care?
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>>133385883
>Be big isp which buys local politicians to setup monopoly on the hardware
The public should be concerned about the billions they gave to these isps to improve their network
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>>133385668
Wow, I guess you're right. Can't wait to pay comcast $149.99 to access gmail and twitter!
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>>133385984
ok ok yore right
why do i persist im casting jewels before talking egos(brick walls)????
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>>133385260
Haven't tons of torrent sites shut down regardless of NN.
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So when Ameriburger posts are reduced by 95% because it'll cost $79.99 to access 4chan in the US via comcast's Le Epic Fresh Memes™ subscriber package, will leafs finally own this board?
Feels good living in a country with strong NN
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>>133386208
I am sure they won't lose any customers if they try that
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>>133386208
>to access gmail
Use AOL instead.
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>>133386417
There's places in the US where comcast is the only ISP available for non-dialup
Yeah, I'm sure comcast is real worried about overcharging their customers.
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>>133386553
wow such consumer choice
so free market
such anti-regulation
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>>133386013
>There's still the option to abstain.
there that false dilemma again
>You said I said something now prove it
you are amazing
the thread is front of you
click your id
and then read
i cant do any of that for you
>thank you
"i know are but what am i"
*zzzzzzzzzzzzzz*
>to where
your going to give some poor 3rd party reader of your posts some sort of cancer with comments like that
>there are like 10 other NN threads right now
so thus you shall spend the rest of your day advocating online for those 100k X richer than you to be 150k X richer than you
>not an argument
"you have to make arguments but i dont, because"
>>133386165
ostrich>head>sand>bury
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>>133374281
>the smartest motherfuckers (anime watching nerds) would easily build a civ (rome) keeping all the normies (barbarians) out.
The nerds will die you stupid fuck because playing Harvest Moon doesnt translate into real life farming
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>>133361320
No. Fuck off, it would do more harm then good.
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>>133386397
red herring
thats because of copyright cabals and others running to the state to make them shut down by means of threat of gunfire & imprisonment
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>>133386655
Or Hotmail or buy your own e-mail.
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>>133386667
You alright m8?
Anyway.
>false dilemma
Hardly. When the service turns to shit, you can just cancel it. We did fine for millennia without internet.
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>>133386905
false dilemma
et al
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>>133386852
Even the ever so praised private sites? Even then, most are hosted overseas, same with cyberlockers. Torrents are the past.
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>>133386802
instead of passing the costs onto the consumer as ISPs do now, they'd pass them onto companies, which they do not do. how is this bad again?
you're a tard if you think websites give a fuck about your end of NN. they're only looking out for themselves and their bottom line.
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>>133387007
>Hardly. When the service turns to shit, you can just cancel it.
.....and then you double down on the fallacy
dont read the WP article that illuminates about it or anything
>you can just cancel it.
yes, thats one option
another is to cause them to be unable to treat us like cash registers or cattle by their monopolies through proper behavior enforced by law
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>>133386905
Wow, I guess I love comcast now!
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>>133378016
Let me explain something.
The entire business decisions of a company do not fucking revolve around you. You protect everything, or you let (((them))) decide. What would you prefer, anon?
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>>133387419
I bet you live in a shithole, that you often praise, that only has one ISP.
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>>133361320
I just want it to keep poorfags out of political discourse.
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if you're wondering what ISPs will do if net neutrality is repealed, we already know.
2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it. https://www.cnet.com/news/telco-agrees-to-stop-blocking-voip-calls/
2005 - Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers.
2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. http://fortune.com/2009/04/03/group-asks-fcc-to-probe-iphone-skype-restrictions/
2011 - MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except youtube. https://www.wired.com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality-challenge/
2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit. http://www.businessinsider.com/verizon-blocking-google-wallet-2011-12
2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-tech/post/fcc-fines-verizon-125m-for-blocking-tethering-apps/2012/07/31/gJQAXjRLNX_blog.html
2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money. https://www.freepress.net/press-release/99480/att-blocking-iphones-facetime-app-would-harm-consumers-and-break-net-neutrality
2013, Verizon Iiterally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place. https://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/2013/09/18/verizons-plan-break-internet
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>>133387784
I live in a country with NN and and fast fibre, so nah.
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>>133387865
Always archive it
>https://wired com/2011/01/metropcs-net-neutrality-challenge
https://archive.is/LwLMM
>http://businessinsider com/verizon-blocking-google-wallet-2011-12
https://archive.is/YlqZs
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>>133380912
>ISPs
>Free market
Roflmao found the retarded monkey!
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>>133387846
Great idea. Then the only political websites will be CNN with no comments sections.
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Last mile problem, niggers. That's why you don't have 10 different ISP's to choose from and thus speeds fast enough to stream high def netflix 10 times over.
This bullshit "free internet" fight is between two groups of large corporations. On one side are the Netflix's, Jewgle (Youtube and Hulu), and reddits of the world, who largely use internet bandwidth. On the other side are the network transit providers, like Level 3, CenturyLink, Verizon, etc.
NN gives the first group HUGE advantage to dump whatever content they want onto the providers networks for pennies on the fucking dollar. And in the modern era of high def video streaming, thats a lot of fucking bandwidth.
Thats what NN is. The anti NN side is saying
>uh fuck no, if you want to dump all that shit on our networks you'll either have to pay for the increased usage, or work with us to put your content closer to the end customer (aka CDN/small scale datacenters).
But why pay your way/play fair when you can use your massive advertising reach to paint network operators as the bad guy and your jewified media company as the poor little oppressed innocent?
Don't fall for this horseshit, /pol/. Netflix, Google, and Reddit are not your fucking friends, you should already know this.
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>>133387970
These geniuses think those telephone lines and broadband cables in the ground are all free to uses. Magical Moles ran the cables and Flying Fairies built the Telephone lines for the good of all humanity.
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>>133388052
>defending the ultra kike ISP profits
you deserve to be hanged
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>>133361320
OP IS A FAGGOT AND DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE.
sage
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>>133388812
You fucking stupid nigger, the point is they are two competing groups of jews. You really, really, really fucking think Netflix, Google, reddit, and all the other faggot companies pushing the "save da web!" meme aren't complete fucking hebes? That they have anything resembling your best intentions at heart?
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>>133377344
Bullshit. 3 of those are $200/mo. satellite services that require a huge $4000 dish and run at speeds that make dial up seem fast.
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>>133361632
This.
And fuck poor fags that don't buy business class anyway.
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>>133385883
> Someone gets idea to sell cheaper internet with no tier program
>Unfortunately doesn't have any extra tens of millions for hardware and constant delaying lawsuits and other shit
>Sheeit Tyrone, back to Comcast premium it is
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>>133388991
>(((Comcast))) is your friend goy, better oppose net neutrality!
Fuck off kike enabler.
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>>133379669
>I am fine with the government protecting my free speech my safety, my freedom of religion,and allowing me a firearm,but not my internet
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>>133389271
>literally gobbling john olivers diseased toothless penis
Take your worthless reddit equivalencies right back there.
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>>133389397
Keep on defending the kike's ability to charge you for tiered service. You will get yours on the day of the rope for enabling this usury.
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>>133388245
>Magical Moles ran the cables and Flying Fairies built the Telephone lines for the good of all humanity.
Nah the truth is even more astonishing than the fiction, it was government gibs that ran those cables.
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>>133389287
>Government protects my NEGATIVE rights, such as my freedom of speech or my right to OWN a gun
>shitlib equates this to government forcing someone to provide a service against their will
Why are y'all so fucking retarded?
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>>133389515
Two years from now, when NN is fucking dead, and none of this apocalyptic bullshit you are regurgitating has come to pass, I want you to post pic and timestamp of you with a sharpie in your pooper, along with saying sorry for being a gullible, jew-trained faggot and that your swear to attend a computer networking class.
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>>133361320
You won't get that as you describe it, instead you will get a filtered web for profit and political tainting.
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>>133389792
Sorry, I dont use facebook.
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>>133389792
>defending ISP profits
sorry, you're the only kike-trained one here!
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>>133388052
The fuck are you rambling about? The huge service providers have to fucking pay for every Gbps they need to satisfy their customers at the point where the data goes in to the network. At least now they won't get fleeced every fucking hop they make inside the network.
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>>133389792
Good goy, comcast is your friend, better shill for them some more because google is on the other side, right?
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>>133389722
That picture is fucking retarded. You consent to the taxes by living inside the country. Nobody is forcing you to not move out to some zero tax shithole.
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>>133390139
>She was there Judge, so I fucked her! Isn't being there consent?
Achmed detected
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>>133390286
Well if there is a sign that says you are consenting to get fucked by Achmed (you) by standing here then she basically was. Just get anally wrecked you faggot.
Well can you consent to not buy food?
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The biggest issue with peoples opinion on Net Neutrality is that I can bet that over half the people in this thread don't even know how the internet works or how connections are made.
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>>133390783
Except I dont have a sign that says fuck me in the ass, do I? No one has a right to my money, no matter where I live and no matter how many of my (((neighbors))) vote to steal from me. Just because the neighboring mob votes it's okay to rape you, doesn't make it morally acceptable.
Kill yourself, filthy mongel.
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>>133391446
>Except I dont have a sign that says fuck me in the ass, do I?
Yes you fucking have, it is written in the law just as that "fuck me in the ass please" is written in a big fucking red signboard on your head. Nobody is forcing you to work and hence pay taxes. Nobody is forcing you to live in the States hence paying taxes. You are just a retarded chimpanzee hated even by your own tribe trying to cry about muh money. Fucking nigger.
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>>133391650
>ITS IT'S OKAY BECAUSE SOME JEWS WROTE A LAW
>LEGALITY=MORALITY
So this is the power of the Mongolian intellectual...
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