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Don Jr. breaks NYT journalist in one tweet

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With one tweet, Trump Jr. caused a NYT journalist to have a nervous breakdown after working on a story for over a year.
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>>133340295
>crime in american politics
>jr. wasn't even in politics at the time
hmm
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>>133340295
Version 1: The meeting was primarily about adoptions. Don Jr. didn't mention anything about the election to the Times.


Seems a good time to bring pizzagate back into the spotlight. We're just wondering if Natalia was going to discuss trafficked children

Yeah, Putin banned adoption, seems there's fun ways to use CNN spin on this one
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>>133340295
it's because he imagines this is actually a smoking gun. It's far from it yet, but it depends.
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About to check the replies, you fags better be rubbing it in
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>>133340561
:^)
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>>133340295
Bumpin
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>>133340561
>>133341764
(^:
Sit tight
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he didnt have a breakdown you white fucking RAT. He was dumbfounded and surprised that this cracker ass RAT would incriminate himself . Ya'll a bunch of fucking RATS for real, tryna spin this shit away from these white idiots colluding with the Russians! White Traitors, that's what your race is to America. Traitors.
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>>133341926
Wheres the crime
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>>133340295
>/pol/ thinks that hes shocked because its upsetting instead of validating
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Why is he writing like a valley girl?
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>>133340295
I'll volunteer for first shift of his suicide watch. I sure hope I dont leave my gun in the room when i take a piss.
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>>133341999
It was his big story that could have landed him a Pulitzer and he got scooped by the very family he was trying to fuck over, he's upset
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Just ignore the tweet where this guy specifically says he doesnt work for the NYT.

Fuck off shill
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>>133341926
You sound like a nigger.
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>>133340295
>he destroys their clickbait media campaign by just dropping the mails they kept talking about, showing that there's nothing in there
>instead of admitting defeat they just keep going on and on how Drumpf is finished
>when everyone with even cursory interest in the topic can just read the mails in 2 minutes and figure out it's absolutely nothing once again
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>>133340295
>its the smoking gun for real this time
>mfw nothing happens again
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> Increasingly nervous trump supporter justifies mounting scandals.

This whole thing has no legs, but it's funny seeing you drumpfies so rectum roasted.
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>>133342549
I think it is a bit morally questionable but not illegal and certainly normal for elections
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>>133340295
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He's not the NYT journalist you fucking moron. Just goes to show what you guys know.
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>>133342708

It's just more circumstantial evidence. But regardless of that, it's ultimately damaging to Trump and his presidency, people acting like it isn't are as delusional as Hillary supporters.
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>>133342447
this
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>>133343067
>it's ultimately damaging to Trump

What exactly is it damaging? His reputation as well respected statesman who always sticks 100% to the rules?

The reason their character assassination is not working is because Trump never had such a reputation to begin with.
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damn drumpf is actually fucking done
/pol/ mental gymnastics in full fucking swing
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>>133343334
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>>133342964
this just gets more and more pathetic
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>>133343255

It's damaging because it's circumstantial evidence in the ongoing russia narrative. It's damaging because the more people believe this stuff, the more middle ground "eh it's probably being blown out of proportion" people who see this news and think 'hmm maybe there's something to this.' It's damaging because unless he manages to get real reform out and felt by the populace, something to oppose this stuff with, within 4 years hes got a very low chance of re-election.

People in the Trump Camp having ties, or intent to make ties, or seeming to want ties only strengthens their pissweak campaign.

Like i agree with 90% of /pol/ on this stuff, but it's still a matter of perception, and what i'm sure loads of people are seeing in America right now is the air of collusion surrounding Trumps Campaign. And that, is unequivocally, damaging, from his mandate, to his senators faith in him, to his chances of re-election.
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>>133343255
>The reason their character assassination is not working is because Trump never had such a reputation to begin with.
They should have gotten this when they called him "worse than Hitler" in early 2016 and his numbers kept rising, oh no guys he is not presidential enough and makes a mockery of the presidency, that's why he was voted you stupid faggots, fuck fake career politicians, Trump makes politics entertaining as fuck
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>>133341999
>big smoking gun is a couple emails that prove no wrong doing
Oh, yeah. I'm sure the Dems are finally going to get Trump for real this time.
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>>133342447
>expecting normies to actually not be retards for 2 minutes
Too much
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>>133343607
No, what's rather happening is that people get tired of it because the media keeps screaming "Drumpf is finished!" and then fucking nothing happens.

If they had done all of this shortly before the 2020 election it would have had an effect. But people already don't really wanna hear about it anymore now and they still have 3 years to go.
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>>133340295
>I am an important journalist
>see how hard I work
>omg this is a huge story and I was involved
I I I me me me, the ego on this shit stain.
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>>133340295
I, Grasshopper, learn from the master by his actions.

This truly is the secret one-finger technique only high level martial artists apply.

Trump is gazzillion-dan black belt psych karate alpha.
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/pol/

Give me a basic gestalt on what Trump Jr did, why he did it and what ramifications it will genuinely have.
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>>133343792
Plus there's the potential blow back when/if/whoknows the investigation completes and nothing comes out of it. Trump will spend the next x years screaming witch hunt as a way to shut down dem criticism and to turn out the base and make dems look like process blockading crazies. The counter to this for the dems is "he can't keep getting away with this" and vote us in to stop him!. Of course, if that happens and they can't follow through... that will probably be painful. I kinda feel like the politics of it all is now set and we just have to drag ourselves through the mud for ~4 years as we listen to a wrote reality TV screenplay. Trump the star and the press the Paparazzi.
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>>133344206
he effectively solicited a kiddie for a diddle -- he met the kiddie, who turned out to be too old -- he then got busted -- now he's sperging autistic that because no diddling actually occurred, the facts of his admitted sweet tooth is immaterial

>literally, jail
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this man lives his entire life on the internet. he has absolutely no grounding in reality
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>>133344048
Should have just spilled the beans right away rather than trying to stretch the story over multiple weeks by only releasing tidbits.

Would have helped their agenda too, because Trump Jr. just releasing the mails on his own already gives of the strong implication of "there's nothing in there", even to people who are too lazy to read them themselves.

But they were too greedy so instead they get nothing.
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>>133340295
>crime
>volunteered services that legally do not fit the description of a contribution
>volunteered services are not illegal even for foreign nationals.
Wow this guy is gonna be crying himself to sleep in a month from now when no one is talking about this anymore because it's a nothingburger.
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>>133344609
Jr is the source of the email? First time I heard, so I don't think it matters in helping. MSNBC and CNN seem to have left that part out.
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>>133341926
nigger spotted
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>>133341764
>>133341839
What's up with the 27th?
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>>133344768
I have no idea where they got the mails from, but Jr. just released them himself when they started to hint at the fact that they have them and stole their story.

They could have just released them right away and it might have had at least some impact. Instead they tried to get as much mileage out of it as possible and now they have nothing.
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>>133341839
Maybe it's cause it's 3am here almost, but I don't understand anything he's fucking talking about in this post. Like it just feels like jibberish. Idk. I still believe the 27th will be a party time day
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>>133344857
Link to the Emails?
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Sometimes one step backwards allows you to move two steps forward.

Slingshot?
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>>133344857
If they got the emails, then who did they get them from then? Hm? Am I really supposed to believe that TRUMP is coordinating with the Russians after all of this and not the DNC and the left? Seriously.
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>>133344902
Don Jr tweeted them out earlier they're in his timeline
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>>133344902
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789418455953413
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/884789839522140166
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>>133340295
>Open borders for everyone
>Illegals should have the right to vote
>No ID for voters

>But don't talk to any russian, this is somehow really really bad.
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>>133345035
I've fapped to so much russian porn, my dick will be hung for treason.
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>>133345035
>5.8 million illegal voters is okay.
>volunteered services from a foreigner (aka not a contribution, under US law) is bad.
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>>133345035
>>But don't talk to any russian, this is somehow really really bad.

Lefties always operate on the basis of "It's okay when we do it".
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kill some cult members
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>>133345035
Fuck I hate leftists
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>>133345085

frfr
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>>133340295
1 TWEET 2 MANY!!!!
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>>133344996
Ty
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>>133343636
>>133342236
>His story got scooped
They had been pushing the story for 2 whole days before Jr. dropped the emails anon.
He never would have done it otherwise. It was clear someone in the admin had read them as was leaking the content. The fact that morons like you are taking his preemptive release as some sort of a 'win' for his camp is literally the only reason he did it.
The accusations in the articles were exactly what the emails proved them to be about.
>The pretense for the meeting was to get dirt on clinton
>There was clear pretense that the dirt was coming from the russian government
Thats it, anon. Everything they were publishing about this Saturday and Sunday is 100% validated by this. Their saturday piece didn't even claim a direct suggestion of support from the Russian government only that the lawyer had russian connections, but the emails spell out central government support.
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>>133344959
>Hm?
Fuck off Tumblr.
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You autistic fucks, mouse over OP's ID and tell me how many posts he has here.

Ya'll numb nigs been had.
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>>133340561
Call the pizzaria and ask for 12 slices with no sausage.
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>>133343792
You know the media and everyone else with a hate boner for Trump are only going to see the first mail in the chain which mentions 'The Russian government's support for Trump' and somehow equate that with collusion. Like it's illegal for a foreign government to want to see certain candidates win, I'm sure Mexico was rooting for Hillary to win over Trump because of the damned wall but no one was screaming collusion then, were they?
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>>133343607
It helps Trump for these exact reasons. The dems discredit themselves more and more in front of the entire country, outside of their circles. Jewish insanity on full display.

If they can get the idea of foreign influence in enough heads, they might even blow open the door on Israel.
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>>133340295
>Caring about a no name journalist instead of treason

You Trumpfags suck at deflection.
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>>133340295
Dude sounds like a fucking faggot who needs a beating.
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>>133346516
kys cia nigger
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>>133340295
>dumbest and biggest crime in the history of American politics

Well isn't he so full of himself.
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>>133340295
>Talking like a Kardashian with asthma will surely make people take me serious!
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>>133340295
>dumbest and biggest crime in the history of American politics
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>>133340295
It's in the genes
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Post your face when you're not Jared Yates Sexton.
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>>133340295
DON'T SPEAK TO RUSSIANS!
DON'T LOOK AT RUSSIANS!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH, RUSSIANS!!!
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>>133346605
Hi Terry, I use linux
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>>133340295
The strategy was to make it look bigger by small leaks. But its unequivocal acceptance has nullified much of the "depth charge" it was supposed to be.

I believe that the Russian mania ends here. It was the last lucky shot.
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>>133346019
sure I shouldn't just ctrl+f?
>>133344976
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At least verified journos on twitter are getting more retweets and follows.
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>>133344457
(((you)))
Levels of autism I've never seen before
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>>133347476
I replied to myself and fixed it. Figured you wouldn't link that part though.
Yea, I've been updating my posts with mouse over rather than ctrl+f
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>>133346516
what is seditious conspiracy?

the day of the rope approaches
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>>133346019
Oh look a smart guy.
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Hahaha fucking junior Drumpf. What a God Damned moron. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

100% would not buy used car from.
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>>133348241
Thanks.
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>>133340295
He writes like a fag and his shit's all retarded
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>biggest crime in American politics
>having classified data on an unsecured server
>deleting subpoenaed e-mails
>Watergate
>Bill Clinton perjury
>rigging the DNC

OK
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>>133340295
>the dumbest and biggest crime in american history
kek what a nu-male cunt, so full of himself
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>mfw all these shareblue shills

0.02 cents have been deposited into your accounts, shills
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>>133343638
Has CNN's bitching and moaning ever accomplished anything? This will be another nothingburgerr
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Let me try and understand this, American news sites have been hyping some blow up for Trump and his son released it?

And the big blow up is that the son had arranged a meeting with some Russians to talk about some big shit about Clinton?

Is this illegal or something? What's the problem?
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>>133344959
Actually, there's pictures of the lawyer he met with, meeting up with Dem party officials.
Supposedly the e-mails and the meeting were a setup to legally wiretap them afterwards or something.
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>>133350685
>Is this illegal or something?
It's possible that it's illegal but it's more likely it's just CNN chimping out over whatever scrap they can get their hands on.
But it is illegal to take election help from foreign countries.
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>>133350942
and the net result of JR's meeting is that they all walked out of the meeting and left with nothing.
>They entered with nothing.
>They prematurely left with nothing.
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>>133346516
What do you mean? We were pissed when Hilary committed treason and the FBI said it's ok though because it was an accident
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>>133344996
Wait.....so he is saying they tried to collude with Russia but got rejected?

But....is that in itself still considered collusion?
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>>133340295
God that guy is a fucking retard. Somebody find out where he lives and say he was flashing his junk at peple so they'll lock him up in a MHU
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>>133343607
>It's damaging because it's circumstantial evidence in the ongoing russia narrative. It's damaging because the more people believe this stuff, the more middle ground "eh it's probably being blown out of proportion" people who see this news and think 'hmm maybe there's something to this.' It's damaging because unless he manages to get real reform out and felt by the populace, something to oppose this stuff with, within 4 years hes got a very low chance of re-election.
>People in the Trump Camp having ties, or intent to make ties, or seeming to want ties only strengthens their pissweak campaign.
>Like i agree with 90% of /pol/ on this stuff, but it's still a matter of perception, and what i'm sure loads of people are seeing in America right now is the air of collusion surrounding Trumps Campaign. And that, is unequivocally, damaging, from his mandate, to his senators faith in him, to his chances of re-election.

Mueller is giving a colonoscopy to everyone in the WH or in the Trump campaign. How the fuck are the Dems going to run on Russia when Trump points out that Mueller did everything he could to nail him (hiring exclusively Hillary supporting lawyers, being BFF with Comey, etc.) and came up short?
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>>133341926
nigger flags were a mistake. I'm so goddamn tired of retards selecting this flag and "ironically" LARPing as niggers.
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>>133350942
>But it is illegal to take election help from foreign countries.
Then why was it ok for Hillary to accept foreign donations from China, Saudi Arabia, and Ukraine?
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>>133340295
>This is the dumbest and biggest crime in the history in American Politics...

I would Agree
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>>133340295
Looks likes he legitimately convinced himself that he's on the front lines of a world changing story. This is what self-important narcissism does.
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>>133343500

I honestly cannot believe how much mileage this picture has racked up. I remember it from well before the election.
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Sorry Don you activated my FISA card
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>>133347115
Another shill pretending he knows a posters name to create the impression there is no anonymity here. Your CNN tactics don't work here kike.
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>>133340295
That guy looks like a typical numale
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>>133352981

Well, it's not world changing but for (((some reason))) it is world trending.
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>>133340295
>doing opposition research is the biggest crime ever commited in American history
What a moron. I honestly can't read even the "quality" papers with a straight face given, what ridiculous and sensationalistic people writte for them. What they always claim about Trump "he is making a joke out of the hole world" is excatly true for them.
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>>133341999
He admitted himself that Don Jr managed to turn his precious story into a joke, numbskull. Re-read the screencap in the OP. He's talking about how people are laughing about it.

He's butt devastated that Jr. practiced full disclosure and released the emails himself before this guy could twist the narrative. (((They))) are not even trying to hide that their aspiration as journalists is to lie to the people.
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>>133340295
Why is this such a big deal still?

I thought in the emails that he tweeted out that lawyer was giving him proof that Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russian govt? Instead they want to pretend the lawyer was the Russian govt trying to help them bring down Hillary, but they have no proof of that, just empty accusations and happenstance.

Are the liberals just trying to ignore that and keep pushing or do they no know how to read?
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>>133354302
B-b-but he was working on the story for over a year it was his right to release it
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>>133341926
Horrific bait, lad
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>>133340295
what alternate reality are you in?
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>talking to a Russian because they said they might have something on Hillary is a crime
>not only is it a crime, it's the biggest crime in history, like annodah shoah
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>>133342549
>drumpf
I wish your kind would at least attempt to find another word. You all sound like niggers repeating the same few words 20x in a row when chimping out. It's very low energy
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>>133354630
They have nothing so they are desperately clinging to anything that can connect Trump to Russia.
This narrative is this retarded that they are going to go with ANYTHING that mentions Trump and Russia in the same sentence. These people are insane and I think we should consider the possibility that they might be controlled opposition.
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>tfw it's all just a slav puppet show
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>>133355129
This. Whenever you see someone write Trump's name like that it's either b8 or a shill and the entire argument should be ignored.
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>>133355063
Just wait until we see what they'll go for next.
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>>133340295
SO you are making an excellent point here OP. Donny J went from lying to being "transparent" just because the NY TImes was going to release the emails.
wow, so much for draining that swamp!
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>>133340295
>crime
>talk to lawyer with ties to the obama administration
>get literally no relevant information
>SHE'S RUSSIAN SO CLEARLY RUSSIA

What kind of fucking faggots are these people?
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>>133352199
If you hate memeflags you're a newfag and need to kill yourself
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>>133343607
You think that because you live in fucking Australia where every moron believes whatever shit the ABC is pumping into your idiot box each night. In America people have had decades of multiple news media stations screaming bullshit at us and most of us are skeptical of the whole thing.

This is why Americans are more successful at electing guys like Trump and Reagan- because ever since the 1970s people have been more and more distrustful of the media, even if they openly whine about Nixon.
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>>133343792
>literally 1.5 years until the midterms

I can't wait for literally another year and a half of whining about muh russia.
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>>133343607
Gop ran a platform on feelings not facts they said as much at the rnc.
Feels like russia colluded to get trump in.
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>>133344305
>painful

Considering the Dems literally need to take a bunch of Rep leaning districts and Senate seats in order to stop Trump it isn't even possible for them to get in, the best they can do is avoid losing harder
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>>133344206
>pol tell me what my opinion is
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Everytime
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>>133355357
Or it's a joke, retard
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>>133342447
>WE GOT HIM
>He releases the big whoop nothing info himself
>FUCKKKKKKKKKK WE DONT GOT HIM
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>>133356898
Nah, everything is 100% serious all the time.
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>>133340295
yeah that dude doesn't work for the NYT
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>>133344206
He did what you want the government to do, he was as completely transparent as possible. Somehow, the left is attempting to spin that into something bad.
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>>133344206
What is that in the pic?
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>>133356898
The only joke here, is you.
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>>133355843
Says the newfag.
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>>133353636
Sup, newfaggot?
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>>133341764
>have a folder on my desktop for the last 2 weeks titled july 27th
>>133345085
>it contains several links to a russian porn actress' videos

This is a really strange coincidence.
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>>133340295
Some say he's still tweeting about it to this day.
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>>133340295
>meeting with a Russian is the biggest crime in the history of America.
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>>133353636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcqWok8AubE

Terry "Glow in the dark CIA niggers" Davis
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>>133358727
THE DOG IS BEING RAPED
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>>133340561
I was adopted from Russia back in the 90's.
No pedo shit here.
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>>133340295
These people are so delusional they're convinced they've found the Holy Grail when it's just a can of sardines. The need to believe is a hell of a drug.
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>>133345711
Where did he break the law?
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If this is the biggest crime in American politics well then that takes quit a bit of heat off of the whole slavery thing. Thank god. I'm tried of hearing about it.
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ONE....WHOLE...YEAR
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>>133341926
Translation: Donald Trump Jr. is not a politician, did not do anything illegal, and did nothing more than what is generally known as "opposition research". The source is totally irrelevant, as should be obvious considering the large number of US-Israeli dual nationals who would otherwise be entirely barred from any involvement in the U.S. political process
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>>133360619
>Donald Trump Jr. is not a politician
According to liberals he's next in line for the presidency.
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>>133341926
back to zimbabwe, mugabe
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>>133340295
>https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20

>52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510

>(b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

>(g)Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.

Now lets look at Trump Jr's email chain:

>Goldstone: The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras (Agalarov, real estate magnate) this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and be very useful to your father.

>Trump Jr: If it's what you say I love it

>Goldstone: Don Hope all is well Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday

>Trump Jr: Great. It will likely be Paul Manafort (campaign boss) my brother in law (Jared Kushner) and me. 725 Fifth Ave 25th floor.

Oppo research is a service that candidates pay for and therefore unquestionably a thing of value. Trump Jr, Manafort and Kushner were clearly aware the lawyer was a foreign national. Agreeing to meet this person to obtain opposition research useful to the Trump campaign is both solicitation and acceptance of a thing of value from a foreign national as explicitly prohibited by this act. Note solicitation and acceptance do not imply receipt. This is open and shut, and since Manafort and Kushner where forwarded the whole chain prior to the meeting, they're just as guilty.
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>>133360864
>>Liberals are dumb and don't understand the difference between democracy and monarchy
I agree.
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>>133354302
Yeah they were hoping to just release tidbits from the emails for a while and play pretend that everything about it was super incriminating, then Junior releases everything due to having done nothing wrong.

Then everyone proceeded to mock these journalists for trying to make a big deal out of this. The guy thought he'd be putting fear into Trump and his administration, yet instead sees they're just laughing.
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>>133361695
Nice internet lawyering there.anon.
The only flaw, is that it is widely accepted that information is not tangible. Therefore nothing of value was received nor offered.
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>>133362298
> official documents

Try again :^)
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>>133361695
>Oppo research is a service that candidates pay for and therefore unquestionably a thing of value.
Info is not worth anything of value leaf
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>>133361695
no the law is only about accepting money. not "a thing of value" and that's where your post falls apart.

on top of this, the person wasnt really russian gov related at all, as has been confirmed now. so double clear for trump jr. face it, you shot a blank again shills.
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>>133362530
>>133362549
>or other thing of value
It says so right in the act, idiot.

>official documents
Whelp, guess those are physical objects in addition to the information, moron.

>foreign nationals
The law doesn't stipulate foriegn governments, shithead.
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>biggest crime in american politics, not even a close second
and they wonder why they're losing credibility

he talked for 10 minutes to a russian lawyer who wasn't even working for russia at the time and it becomes "trumps russian contacts! putin runs the white house!"

this has all just gottten way too retarded
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>>133358727
Fucking piece of shit e-celeb talking shit about Terry.
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>>133362767
shes a member of the democratic party. shes literally in more trouble than donjr will ever be lol.

also no you're wrong about the law. go ahead and quote it for us here if you think you are right.
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>>133362990
>https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/110.20

>52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510

>(b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

>(g)Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt of contributions and donations from foreign nationals. No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.

Now lets look at Trump Jr's email chain:

>Goldstone: The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras (Agalarov, real estate magnate) this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and be very useful to your father.

>Trump Jr: If it's what you say I love it

>Goldstone: Don Hope all is well Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday

>Trump Jr: Great. It will likely be Paul Manafort (campaign boss) my brother in law (Jared Kushner) and me. 725 Fifth Ave 25th floor.

Oppo research is a service that candidates pay for and therefore unquestionably a thing of value. Trump Jr, Manafort and Kushner were clearly aware the lawyer was a foreign national. Agreeing to meet this person to obtain opposition research useful to the Trump campaign is both solicitation and acceptance of a thing of value from a foreign national as explicitly prohibited by this act. Note solicitation and acceptance do not imply receipt. This is open and shut, and since Manafort and Kushner where forwarded the whole chain prior to the meeting, they're just as guilty.
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>>133362767
Can you buy gas with documents? Can you invest in a house with info you got from a russian lawyer? Can you open a bank account with manilla envelopes?

Other value means gold and jewels and things that have actual value.
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>>133361695
So how is this "other thing of value" defined?

>Trastvuite, Putin's pal Kassimir Kolossovski hyere. I am big pal wit Putin. Big pal. I almost byest fryen! I hhold my hhand on dossier HHYILLARY CLINTON This valueless crap. Are you interested in valueless crap.
>Yes. We are only interested in valueless crap. Can you confirm it is in fact valueless crap and that the value to be gained from it can only be determined as a metaphysical object of thought in private philosophical contemplation in the privacy of the imagination of an independent individual?
>Yes I can confirm that this garbage, shit, rat shit or worse shit. Our Sergei Semen will bring it tomorrow to darkyest pyart of park. Enjoy private imagination! Dasvdaniya!

>>133362767
He mad now. Watch out.
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>>133363099
>No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section.
Nothing of value was exchanged you thick skulled retard. Paper may cost money, but it isnt enough to justify it being "something of value"
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>>133340561
Yeah, but no.

Jr. stated that he attended the meeting with intent to obtain valuable information on hillary from a Russian national.

He basically just handed us Criminal Intent. We now know beyond a shadow of a doubt that members of the trump administration intended to collude with a foreign national. Which is a crime.
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>>133363099
wow that sounds like a lot to post in such a short time.

seems a lot like a copy paste fresh from the server, shill.

but since you're so eager to spin a weak story lets take it apart some more.

The law is about money. You can't call "information" offered but not actually taken (from not russia by the way, but a member of the democratic party) something that fits this description.

thats so far a stretch it makes you look insane.

you can't catch a president out on thin technicalities especially when the thing you're catching him out on isn't something that exists in reality and never did (there never was any info).

at some point your story is just too thin to believe in. shill.
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>>133360619
aipac-all of congress is owned by israel
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>>133363099
>leaf
>spams same pasta
>probably obama leaf
off yourself cretin
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>>133363474
Donjr isnt part of the administration he's trumps son not the next prince.
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>>133346019

I will now bump every shit thread I see to spite this faggot
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>>133363379
But it does demonstrate criminal intent and conspiracy to commit treason.

Yes, a candidate for a government office getting anything of value from a foreign national can be considered treason and blackmail on trump's opponent was certainly something of value.
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>>133363099
>being this retarded... oh wait... leaf
Your logic is definitely shitlib tier.
>Oppo research is a service that candidates pay for and therefore unquestionably a thing of value.
Wtf mate? Your premise is not just flimsy, it's ridiculous.
Do you have evidence that Don Jr offered payment for this information? No? You have nothing.
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>>133340295
Silly commies and their labor theory of value.

Your work has been rendered worthless by free market competition, cuck. Deal with it.
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>>133363670
he never got any info therefore he got nothing of value.

your wafer scraps wouldn't even make it to court letalone hold up in a court.
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>>133363670
>But it does demonstrate criminal intent and conspiracy to commit treason.
Except it doesn't. Documents are not considered a thing of value.
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>>133340295
What he actually did was break his father's presidency.
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>>133363099
>unquestionably a thing of value
Wrong for several reasons
1. not all opposition Research cost something
2. thing of value in this context of "other thing of value" it's clear that informations are only insofar included as one could make money with it (patents) everything else, would be an interpretation contra legem. Also the teleological Interpretation would speak against it, since the law isn't there to prevent informations about canidates from being showen to the public before they decide. It could even be that he by law had to try to get those infromations out in chase the russians had them and could blackmail the Future President with it.
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>>133363637
Ah, but he was part of the campaign team and invited several members of trump's administration to attend this meeting. Well, former members seeing as Manafort is fired.
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>>133363835

"Thing of value" is a legal term open to interpretation. I wouldn't be so sure.
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>>133363670
This doesn't meet the legal definition of treason. Trump Jr. is not a candidate, there's no evidence that Trump is directly connected, just conjecture, though it is reasonable conjecture. No one is bringing up blackmail but you.
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>>133363243
>donation of money or other thing of value

11 CFR 300.2 - Definitions.

(e)Donation. For purposes of part 300, donation means a payment, gift, subscription, loan, advance, deposit, or anything of value given to a person, but does not include contributions.

Don't listen to shills. Thing of value is obviously referring to something of monetary value. Information does not fall under this definition.
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>>133363898
Here, let me quote you the part of the act that explicitly spells out that the money spent by foreign nationals to generate the opposition research is illegal under the act:

>(f)Expenditures, independent expenditures, or disbursements by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make any expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
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>>133363474
he's not part of the administration dipshit

trump campaign =/= trump administration
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>>133340295
> not even a close second
hyperbolic olympics 2017, nothingburgers competition, gold medal
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>>133363977
So if a foreign national donates a car to a candidate, you think that wouldn't violate the law? LMAO
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>>133341651
Rubbing what in? I don't think you realise that's he's not actually broken down and upset that DT jr tweeted out what he was looking for, he's dumbfounded that the son of the president tweeted out the emails that confirm that him and one of the president's closest advisors wanted and asked for help from the russians to elect trump.

If the US wasn't so incompetent, and the branches of the government oversaw each other as they should, Trump's presidency would be over within a month.
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>>133363915
>moving the goalposts
Fuck off shithead you lost go wait for the next narrative to go jump on
>>133363929
>open to interpretation
Except its pretty defined what "thing of value" is see>>133363898
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>>133363670
>conspiracy to commit treason

Hello, internet lawyer. The Supreme Court ruled a long, long time ago that treason can only be committed on behalf of a party that the United States is at war with.
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>>133363835
Then why is corporate espionage considered a crime? Then why can't I see your tax returns? Why can't I see your ledgers. Infact, if documents hold no value then the Declaration of Independence is absolutely worthless.

Nope, your argument falls appart.

>>133363786
Ah, but I did say conspiracy and mere conspiracy of treason is a crime in and of it'self.
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>>133363929
let me make something clear, the reason you actually need to make a transaction and there actually needs to be real weed before you can get arrested for buying weed from a cop is because there must be an actual crime comited not thought crime.

if you wanted to get him on intention the same thing applies. the info has to have existed and been exchanged.
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>>133361695
Its pretty obvious that whatever was received was NOT a 'thing of value' since 1) they never used it in the campaign, 2) by the admission of all parties the meeting was a bust, and no deal was made. No actual valuable information was exchanged, so even if you accept the premise that telling the campaign about some corruption of your opposition is 'a thing of value' then nothing happened. More importantly Trump Jr did not solicit this information, it was provided to him, and he never received this information.

More importantly Oppo researching (as in you're a firm who is engaged in the business of oppo research) might be considered a thing of value if its donated, but claiming that information its self is a 'thing of value' is a tenuous link at best. If this is the case politicians should report every dinner conversation they have to the FEC, even ones with their wives since their wife is providing a child raising service to her husband. This is absolutely silly and everyone fucking knows it.
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>the absolute state of mental health in the USA
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>>133340295
>I... can't believe it.... I....

Holy shit that typing is infuriating

>This is the dumbest and biggest crime in the history of American politics

Absolutely delusional. Centrist democrats forgetting all American history in order to exaggerate Trump's actions are cancer.
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>>133364084
a car is a liquid asset you retarded leaf
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>>133364282
>(g)Solicitation, acceptance, or receipt

They believed it was when they accepted the offer, which is all the act requires.
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>>133363619
David Attenborough narration:
>The Obama leaf that dries up and burns very quickly in the merciless noon of reality. We observe as the leaf catches fire and curls around itself and vanishes into the air in flames. And soon it was as if the fragile Obama leaf had never existed.
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>>133364264
Are we talking about companycompany practices and the US tax code or how information is exchanged across borders? What you're bringing up holds no baring on the argument. Information on a candidate is not "something of value"
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>>133364427
>Services don't count
So if a foreign national has your campaign bus painted for the campaign for free, you think that wouldn't count?
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>>133363956
trump jr. was working on behalf of trump sr. as his actions were to sr.'s benefit.

More to the point, members of trump's administration were included into this which means we now have due cause to indite trump.

Either he's a traitor that has colluded with a foreign power or utterly incapable of controlling his own administration. Either way he's unsuited to be president.
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>>133364034
Ah, but Paul Manafort was part of the administration and he was included in this meeting.
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>>133340295
This is not a smoking gun. This is literally a nothingburger. Junior didn't even obtain anything.

Clinton did the same thing in Ukraine. This happens all the time.

Saxton needs to take a nap.
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you cant prosecute somebody over imaginary information. lol sounds like:

Conspiracy to speak with somebody about robbing an imaginary bank!
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>>133363994
Great so when does Hillary report to jail? Most of her campaign was fundded by foreign money
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>>133364412
>mfw they never talk about ruby ridge and waco because muh clinton
If you wanna talk about crimes how about murdering women and children?
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>>133364686
but he didnt have said communications with the plant. He could claim he did not know the full extent of the meeting unless of course it shows up in writing
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>>133364543
Would money have been exchanged for this information?

Then it's something of value.
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>>133364627
lololol

its indict dipshit.
and you have no idea how the law works, its called plausible deniability
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>>133364840
this. even the aussie gov was giving money to her and cut it off publically when she lost.

mfw our gov thought your elections were rigged.

mfw we bribed the wrong side.
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>>133364840
Hey, if that can be proved then lock her up!
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>>133364889
Oh, but he did via trump jr.

Unless you believe that shite about "Hey lets take a break from a busy election campaign to go meet someone but I can't tell you who it is or what it's about" convincing anybody.
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>>133363745
>I'mplying it's not about taxing labour and that isn't what's happening
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>>133364981
Ah, so you think that trump is incapable of keeping track of his own team?

Then he's incompetent and unable to discharge the duties of his office. Amendment 25.
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>>133364894
>Would money have been exchanged for this information?
No money was exchanged, and no info was given.
>>
Trump haters are fucking dumb. At the end of the day we voted for him, despite Hillary already being butthurt about Trump's Russia comments. Worst case scenario, Trump did collude with Putin, I'd be ok with it and still have voted for him. That is to say, give it a rest you fucking retards.
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>>133365135
irrelevant, it could have been exchanged for money and therefore has value.
>>
This is such a big pile of nothing
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>>133365161
Actually, we didn't vote for him as trump lost the popular vote.

And really, if there's nothing to hide there's nothing to fear. Why are you up in arms?
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>>133363657
Found the edgy redditor
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>>133345142

Just look at the Clinton News Network:

>Oh my god, there's all of the emails on wikileaks
>You shouldn't look through any of them,that's bad!
>Wait for us to look through them and then we'll tell you there's nothing there.
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>>133365180
>irrelevant
This is the mind of a liberal
>this happened
>no it didnt
>that doesnt matter
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>>133365268
>trump lost the popular vote

pretty sure thats been debunked by studies showing how many illegals (read: foreigners) voted in recent us elections.

either way its a participation prize. theres a reason why popular vote alone won't land you the win.
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>>133363584
So If T Jr were to be formally accused, so would the entire congress be.
You seem unable to follow a simple trail of causes and effects.
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>>133365268
Ok you're just shitposting obviously
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>>133340295
They just can't except the election laws and they are displaying suicidal thoughts.

Hopefully Trump and his family can cause a few suicides
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>>133364507
>of contributions and donations
That means money. Information is not money.
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>>133364592
read the statute and definitions that clearly show the law has to do with money or substitutes for money (services or goods like a car or gold/silver are blatant substitutes). Information is not a contribution or donation under the meaning of the law you mong

are you actually retarded or just a leaf?
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>>133365098
The journalist just got taxed 100%. I fail to see your point.
>>
How mad are people got to continue to be when once again nothing comes of this? Whens the boiling point for the liberals you think?
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>>133365268
He also is not the next in line of the stuart dinasty. This is completely irrelevant to the fact that he won the elections.
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>>133357633

Looks like an Australian to me
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>>133365657
Wow I butchered that sentence. I just woke up fuck off.
>>
>The dumbest political crime
Possibly.

>Biggest Political crime.
Liberals are fucking retarded.
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>>133365579
>or other thing of value
>documents
Try again :^)
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>>133365609
>services are blatant substitutes
You mean services like conducting opposition research? :^)
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>>133344959
Russians are using the dems to weaken our country. It's pretty obvious at this point they'll feed them in hopes of creating a further divide
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>>133344825
it's a fucking larper setting /pol/ up for disappointment yet again
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>>133365448
>pretty sure thats been debunked by studies showing how many illegals (read: foreigners) voted in recent us elections.
What studies are you talking about?
>>
>One Week Later
>New tweet from Donald Trump Jr claiming that the emails were in fact fake and he was trolling the New York times and everyone who believed them this entire time
D-DRUMPF WILL BE BTFO NEXT TIME THOUGH!
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>>133340295
Do you really think he worked on that story tho? Anyone could say he same thing. Hell even I can, doesn't make it true. All I see is a guy who wants to be part of this story by saying he already knew about it.
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>>133360864
So a future crime then. Where is time cop when you need him?
>>
....wow...I just....i mean....just...wow...like....wow....
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>>133340295
Even if there is a proof of the russian connection, whats the big deal? The cold war is over, its normal for people to have friends and share ideas with people from other countries, hell we have a lot to learn from the russian, specially from their laws regarding the homosexual propaganda.
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>>133367543
There isn't though. That's the point.
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>>133350772
>a setup to legally wiretap them afterwards

Now that would be interesting. If all of this fits into the (il)legal wiretapping and illegal unmasking conducted by Susan Rice and Loretta Lynch, such that they literally started the whole thing with a setup, that would be quite the scoop...
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>>133340295

>the one time a NYT journalist does actual journalism he gets pre-empted

I doubt it.
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>>133352731
Holy shit -- this pic
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>>133356898
If they're going to make jokes, they should at least attempt to make them funny.
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>>133343607
Please delete this FAKE FUCKING NEWS!
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>>133341999
Whatever book deal he spent a year and a half dreaming of is down the toilet.

Fucking faggot
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>>133344457
This.
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>>133343607
>It's damaging because it's circumstantial evidence in the ongoing russia narrative.

Every day your buddy hands you a new piece of evidence to show his wife might be cheating on him. A lunch receipt, a hair from her shoulder, a blurry picture that might be her leaving a diner

Do you

A. Get drawn into the mystery

B. Tell your buddy that he bores the shit out of you and the should fuck off, then you start trying to bang his wife
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>>133364518
have a well deserved (You)
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>>133361695
As someone who voted for Trump and doesn't think his son did anything illegal, I'll admit I'm most likely being retarded, but this doesn't really look all that great with the whole Russian narrative going on. It doesn't seem ethical, though DNC are guilty of the same shit if not worse.
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>>133340295
This...guy just seems...like the biggest....faggot.
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>>133340295
This guy is such a fucking nutjob

I swear they hire you as a journalist based on how many mental disorders you have
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>>133360233
He didn't
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>>133340295
All he cares about is he got scooped and now has egg on his face. The state of modern-day journalism, folks.
>>
media: RELEASE THE EMAILS U RUSSIAN SPY!

jr: uh...

media: DO EET NAOWWW
(he wont bcuz he is scared and bad)

jr:yeah no problem. but im going to release them to the america public too so you cant skew it

media: WTF HE ACTUALLY DID IT!?!
media: well... uh... I... hmm....
media: trump btfo!!???!??

im getting fat off these influx of nothing burgers
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>>133365657
Has anyonereallybeen faras decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I'vebeenfurther even more decided to use even go need to do look more asanyonecan. Can you really befareven as decided half as much to use go wish for that?
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>>133342218

welsh girls dont talk like that lad
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>>133342293
>>133342964

hahaha so he's a neet too! BTFO
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>>133341839

are they going to bring up the Clinton's selling our nuclear secrets to China? would seem to fit the Trump narrative

also it's irrefutable, plenty of documented evidence of conspiracy and coverup in the congressional record
>>
>smoking gun
Can anyone honestly explain why so many people like that guy seems to think this is anywhere near incriminating?

>be Don Jr
>get Email from some lawyer he knew who happened to live in Russia
>Heyy i see ur dad tryin to be pres, i got dirt for his enemies, u wan some? and its sources r from my gov, so its gud shit.
>cool
>meet w/ lawyer
>found out his dirt arn't gud stuff
>deal off

>and this is supposed to be incriminating for some reason
If the point was how Trump campaign may used foreign info/action to help them win, then this was already rehearsed on that Trump calling Russia to hack the DNC episode.
Which result to NOTHING.
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>>133343500
hoh boy
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>>133340295
>this is the dumbest and biggest crime in the history of American politics. There's not even a close second
um pretty sure abe lincoln, jfk, regan, that broad sarah palin basically tried to murder and many more i'm omitting.
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