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Have you swallowed the MGTOW Pill? What's stopping you?

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Have you swallowed the MGTOW Pill?

What's stopping you?
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>>133335951
It's unsustainable and defeatist. A society can't function when all the non-Chads opt out. Ideally we'd kill the Chads and level the playing field but that's "crazy" somehow.
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mgtow is a jewish pscyops to turn frustrated men away from having a family

sage
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>>133335951
let me fix that for you
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>>133335951
>Have you swallowed the MGTOW Pill?
I took it as a suppository.
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>>133335951
>Have you swallowed the MGTOW Pill?
That would be no.
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>Have you swallowed the MGTOW Pill?
>What's stopping you?
I'm not a fan of poison.
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>>133335951

This whole "MGTOW" thing is rife with butthurt defeatists who blame everyone else for their perpetual lack of spine. These cowards also like the pretend like the don't care about sex, but then they post their images and infographics which always confirm that sex is on their minds 24/7 and they're very bitter about being virgins for life.
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>>133335951
Nice try shlomo. We all know it's just about stopping white men breeding.
Although here's a relevant thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFnsng1NdEM
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no.

having sex on tap.

why would you not want to protect women? are you physically incapable and therefor just say you don't want to? would you just let some chick get assaulted or raped? lel get rekt fucking pussy m8
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I don't get why most men are so happy about being subservient to women.
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>>133338175
most are happy being subservient to Islamic rapeugees
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>>133336107
>Society can't function if all the non-Chads opt out
That's the point idiot. I'm not MGTOW but if their goal is to break the family court system and reform divorce law, making society nonfunctional by making married men scarce is a good way about it.
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I dont think any men that haven't experience of being married with a feminist woman should go MGTOW, i want the men to suffer hell in fist hand, that will make them stronger. And then instead of suicide yourself, yes you can go MGTOW
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>>133335951
>men are not women's protectors, providers or baby-makers.

For about 90% of human history (at least), we were. It's in our DNA. Men are disposable, women are more valuable in order to preserve the human race. Why do you think when some yahoo shoots up a theatre men instinctively protect the women? It's in our fucking DNA. This is who were are, it's how we evolved, it's how we survived. Do no deny objective reality.
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>>133335951
Thank you goyim for helping in the genocide of the white race.
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>>133338789
and you can go kill yourself you turbo autist
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>>133335951
>What's stopping you?
Dunno, maybe the fact that I'm not a whiney little bitch manchild.

>>133336184
Noice.
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>>133336107
>implying I care about this society
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>>133335951
>What's stopping you?
I learned how to manipulate women.
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>>133335951
>What's stopping you?

My wife is fucking hot & red pilled. We're going our way.
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>>133335951
I want companionship and to continue my genetic bloodline.

Because for sure as hell the sandniggers aren't MGTOW.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6DM3nW5gRQ
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>>133336184
butthurt roastie detected
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>>133338993
So you're perfectly fine with your life being less valuable than a life of a random woman? You're okay with being disposable?
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>>133335951
I want to make white kids. I want a nice family life...

Sometimes I think it's unattainable but if I give in to those feelings we lose as a collective group.
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>Have you taken the /r9k/pill?

god no
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>>133335951
I would go MGTOW, but I'm getting so many offers from different women! I'm sure there's heaps other people on this board in the same situation. Its probably the majority of people on here.
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>>133339422
Just like the kekistani autists, you MGTOW manchildren really are a complete joke.

t. le roastie
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>bunch of whiny faggots who'll never reproduce
humanity thanks you for opting out
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you should see MGTOW as a cure, for the illness contracted for dealing with a feminist woman day by day during a long period of time. MGTOW is the pill that will save your life.
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Holy shit this is the pussy, most cucked movement. If you're going to push something that makes you look lame at least address the root of the problem. Mgtow is not going to fix anything
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>>133335951

They're bitter clingers who talk about "going their way" but in reality spend more time fuming about women than anyone else.

I've seen men who gave up on women to pursue some hobby. They never talk about them at all. They're content.

MGTOW are universally angry entitled little bald, fat, manlet rejects who can't handle life giving them a shitty deal.
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>>133335951
yeah duh. every man goes through this. fuck off muh white racecars.

>love bitches
>get fucked over by bitches
>fuck bitches
>get money
>/fuck/ bitches
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>>133336107
>still giving a fuck about society
Society needs to change in an undemocratic way.
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>>133335951
Because it'd make life completely pointless. If I was going to be a mgtow fag I might as well just kill myself.
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>>133339693
you are cancer incarnate

the only cure for you is a gas chamber
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>>133335951
>yes goy, breed yourself out of existence
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>>133336377
i'm mgtow.

i'm aware i'm a useless retard

i'm still mgtow

i don't want to have some woman fuck me over, and I don't want to fuck some woman over
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>>133335951
Because pussy feels better then jacking off, even when the pussy is attached to an ugly fat chick, pro tip lower your standards and even you could lose your virginity.
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>>133336161
Its not
>divorce rate = 60%
>cuck rate = 30%
>women today are insane/not loyal
>the state literally panders to women to make everything in their favor
no........
its daaaa joooooos!
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MGTOW is knowledge, about the true nature of women, and the feminist ideology. Any beta without MGTOW knowledge thrown out to feminist bitches will be cut in to pieces. Alpha males have instinctively the MGTOW knowledge.
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>>133335951
Fuck you. Men are physically stronger than women so it is your duty to protect us. And I'm not going to juggle a job while simultaneously raising children so you better believe I want to be provided for.

It has always been this way, since the dawn of fucking time you loser.
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I like doing all those things.
I just feel the chinky doo
and the sandnegro have replaced
my white ass :(
I'll show them all when Im 50 and single.
THATS THE TICKET
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>>133340154
I like you.
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Think about it, alpha males knows closer a large number of women in his live, so the alpha males see a pattern that repeat in all women, the alpha male get a empiric knowledge about the true nature of women. The beta virgins never will have a chance to see that pattern in real life, that's why they need to know about MGTOW.
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>>133339454
>You're okay with being disposable?

If it meant preserving the human race, yes.
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>>133339731
>>133339746
Idont understand why a MGTOW would post about MGTOW.
There are stages of the MGTOW redpil, OP is not in the final stage where you truly lose all fucks to give. So he tries to post about it in the hope that some undercover roastie can talk him out of it.
Then come the baseless insults who only affirm the undeniable truth of MGTOW philosophy.
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>>133340509
beta cuck lmao
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>>133339200
>>133339257
Pigeon minded normies, it's not about your personal lives. Leave this board.
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>>133335951
>What's stopping you?
The fac tthat the movement reeks of kike for a mile
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>>133336435
22 i got hpv /warts/ from fucking 3 girls (from 16-22... 3 pretty normal girls.. wore a condom... couldn't have known).

"why didn't you get the fucking vaccine REEEE?!?!"
the girl who gave it to me: i dunno <---- women are retarded

few years later, i told girl i liked.
she was okay with it(?!)
got married
made white baby
she had baby then IMMEDIATELY divorced me for child support and got with a dude with a better job. <---- women are complete sociopathic whores

my heart completely curb stomped.
depressed as fuck.
daughter comes over on weekends while ex rides chaddy cuck.

daughter is a spoiled rotten little shit of the worst kind.
she literally shows her ass like a whore, slaps shit out of peoples' hands and laughs.

i can't spank her because her mom will call the cops and i'll lose visitation.

i'll still have to pay child support.

i've never met a little boy who acts like that. <---- women are instinctively cunts who are enabled to be bigger cunts


why in the fuck would i not fully embrace mgtow?

why don't you whiterace knights shame the roasties and the cucks harder and leave us defeated, former, brothers alone?

we're not coming back to make babies for you. ever.

ever ever.

we'll just keep jacking off, stayin /fit/ for the mires, getting money, and reading philosophy.
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We alpha males are too good for women, that's why I'm a MGTOW
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>>133340154
SFTU Men can get pussy for free so easy now we dont need to get married and get divorce raped/cucked literally like what happened to our fathers.
Were you a virgin when you married? I bet you rode the cock carousel like all other women but still want a prince to marry you when youre 35 and ready to settle down.
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>>133340973
>men can get pussy for free
Degenerate. Anyone that only wants pussy should be shot.
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>>133335951
It's never been easier to get a girlfriend, knock her up, and get married. If you can't keep a wife, you're a numale.
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If you need MGTOW info, these are some of the first fathers of MGTOW
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo1qRcO1OehgkOD_fHsu_uQshelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDoNFQZqQpd6aL32Ua4JPTQ
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>>133340771
this desu
modern woman are absolute trash. they're worth nothing more than their wet pleasure holes. women's suffrage was a mistake.
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>>133341073
Women have nothing else to offer.
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>>133340771
this is how 60% of marriages end.
Whats with the reddit spacing? ADAPT to this site please.
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>>133335951
You don't hear mudslimes and niggers going MGTOW so eventually they'll out breed us.

Can't let that happen.
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>>133340973
ROFL I'm unmarried and work a job, but I'm not going to work while raising children. And if all you want is sex, go right ahead but marriage has so much more to offer than that and if you can't see it that's sad.
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>>133340581
i kno rite? acknowledging objective reality that if the human race was in danger women are more valuable than men. what a cuck!
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>>133335951
im just looking for a woman to share my hobbies with and be happy with. if you're with someone who hates/doesn't understand them, i imagine the relationship will be pretty miserable
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Wait. Idk what this is but through context, is this the male version of feminism?
Rage
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>>133341339
I care more about my personal well-being and pleasure than the 'perservation of the human race'. Drone
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>>133335951
Pushes more beta to even become more beta. Gender roles indicate that men are the protector and you can't suppress that if you want a stable society.
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>>133339731
>bald, fat, manlet rejects

Most famous MGTOW is Leo Dicaprio. But he wouldn't wtf MGTOW even is. The whole movement is kind of ironic, because talking about it or talking about women defeats its purpose.
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>>133341339
The well being of the human race won't matter to you when you're dead.
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you have the accept the reality that this generation of women is rotten, that every school and media have been training the women to be bitches, to make your life a personal hell
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>>133341572
Modernity in a nutshell right here.
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>>133335951
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>>133341243
i'm not reddit. but you don't even know how reddit spacing works. newlines = empty line. my newlines wouldn't have worked at all.. my shit would've looked ALL fucked up and retarded.

i'm just too lazy/tired to properly greentext.

desu, greentexting is kinda reddity nowadays...
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>>133341572
that's just fucking dumb. you may say this but you can't really believe this. It is in your DNA to want to protect the human race. Your life is meaningless. The human race must survive and prosper and one day we will all explore space together in peace and harmony. You wouldn't really want to end the human race just so you can eat cheetos and jerk off to jap cartoons.
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>>133341804
if you ignore the problem, how you will fix it?
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>>133335951
I haven't really swallowed it, I just never kissed a girl or had a girlfriend or anything like that, I kinda coped with it by doing a sour grapes and letting myself believe that women are worthless and vapid attention-seekers, which is partially true. I'm also a NEET and I just fap with onaholes instead to satiate my libido. Occasionally I get feelings of loneliness and I really do desire having a relationship/companion, but after a little while I manage to suppress that feeling for a bit. But no, MGTOW isn't a pill I swallowed, I feel like people who consider themselves MGTOW are just lashing out or looking for an excuse as to why they're lonely themselves, though everyone has their own story, I guess.
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>>133341656
yet we instinctively will protect the womens in a moment of crisis b/c it is how we evolved to survive since the hunter gather days. It isn't a conscious decision.
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>>133340509
>preserving the human race
Since that includes all kinds of vile subhumans, I'm out. Have fun preserving Shitavious and Mehmet though.
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>>133335951
Going your own way only works the women want you otherwise your back to square one
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>>133341690
no i dont have to accept that. A bunch of them of course but thats like saying all men are chads
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/r9gay/ is a terrible board and you guys should stop browsing it before you unironically masturbate to effeminate men in rainbow stockings.
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>>133341862
My life is meaningless but so is every other life and thus also humanity as a whole. I really wouldn't care if the human race went extinct. All I care about is my personal well-being. I'm selfish and it has served me well.
Also, your statement that it is my biological imperative to perserve DNA isn't an argument. DNA wants to be passed on endlessly obviously. That's how evolution has shaped us. It doesn't imply that this is the ultimate goal or that this is somehow the correct course of things. I don't give in to my biology in this regard.
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>>133341942
if you get married soon or later you will became a man controlled by pussy, she will change you to be a leftist, to vote for hillary etc, she will have you by the balls. You will perpetuate the leftist ideology. If you dare to get out you will be in bankruptcy, and suicide.
MTOW cut this problem, makes you immune to rotten women, and at least makes you chose decisions consciously about what kind of woman is not rotten, make you consciously about how to deal with women.
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fuck you guys I met a girl that is as autistic as I am,
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>>133342186
women dont have filters for brainwashing
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Just don't get married, if you don't get married you can't be divorce raped, just create a torrent of single mothers don't worry the state's got our back.
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>>133342460
very nice anon

does she have a sister?
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>>133342460
lol the autistic are the ones with more tantrums, is like a bitch 300% supercharged. Of curse she could be good if she have both fathers and study in home, religious, but is like wining the lottery.
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>>133342639
no, she is pure in an autistic way because she doesn't leave her house and spends all her time on the internet so no brainwashing from tv jew and degenerate society, the facebook tier memes are boring tho
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>>133342736
where'd you meet her
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>>133335951
>>133333333
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>>133342806
college and just started talking about the jews and subhuman gipsies from our country
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>>133342960
lucky lucky

make sure you treasure and take good care of her anon
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stop to worship the pussy, begint to know how to be a man, know about MGTOW, only when a man knows how to domine a bitch is when he is a real man.
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>>133335951
Literally male feminism.

Why can't you just not be a cuck without completely cutting women out of your life?
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non primitive alpha males are innate MGTOWS
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>>133342228
>it's fine to ironically masturbate to effeminate men in rainbow stockings
Thank you leaf, at last I truly understand
Nonetheless, this MGTOW shit seems like the most obvious jew trick to exterminate the white race, how can anybody fall for this shit?
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>>133343129
>Literally male feminism.
Yeah, just look at all those men favoring laws and MGTOW supporting media and political groups
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>>133341616
women opt out of society, gave up their dutys and demand more and more while mocking men for just being men all the time.

Why should i still do my part?
What am I?
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>>133335951
Don't get me wrong; I think they're right about many things. What I disagree with is their approach. They've essentially given up.

There are definitely problems with relations between the sexes right now, mostly caused by marxist crap like feminism. But the MGTOW way does not offer real solutions to fixing things.
The MGTOW way offers no future.
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>>133335951
Women are the gatekeepers to sex.
Men are the gatekeepers to commitment.
The second you don't exercise your God-given right to tell a woman, "No..."
She turns into a feminist.
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>>133343383
lol MGTOW is not like a contraceptive, that stupid, it makes you aware of alpha knowledge, you still have kids but you will make everything to be not cheated
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>>133342279
it's not just that DNA wants to be passed on. As hunter gatherers we realized that when catastrophe hits and everyone is wiped out we will want ten women and one man instead of the opposite. The the human race is hanging by a thread (which it undoubtedbly was multiple times in human history) we are gonna want as many women around as possible. Like fight or flight, like recoiling your hand from heat before your brain can react, like other examples i can't think of right now, it is built into us at birth. We evolved to survive by favoring these traits and now it is just part of who we are. One of these traits is instinctively protecting women.

I'm saying if you were in a theatre and a gunman came in you may instinctively hug the woman next you and protect her as you turn away just like your hand jerks away from the burning sensation before your brain even registers that you are being burned.
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>>133341862

the human race is in it's death throws, thankfully fuck it, good riddance.
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>>133343693
>we are gonna want as many women around as possible.
Maybe you do. I'm fine with the shittier ones going down. Clearing the gene pool isn't just about a man's sacrifice anymore.
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>>133343693
>I'm saying if you were in a theatre and a gunman came in you may instinctively hug the woman next you
Of course, I need a human shield
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>>133336184
I think you are using words without knowing their meaning

>cuckoldry
>feminism

Words have concrete meanings you leftist shit sack
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>>133336275
That sounds about right
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>>133343693
Acting instinctively in a life-or-death situation does not equate to me throwing away my entire life in a calculated move because some circumcised good goy on /pol/ told me to let feminists run my life.
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>>133338175
I'd be happy if I got my dick sucked, so yea
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i want to procreate you stupid fuck OP. if you dont procreate youll be a genetic dead end and will leave this world to niggers and degeneracy instead of spreading your seed and DNA thus living on through your blood forevetr as well as hopefully redpilling them to fight degeneracy. thats why OP. you dumb fuck.
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>>133335951
When a person gets abused they get asked where the abuser touched them.

MGTOWs get asked where the mean girls didn't touch them.

Bunch of resentful cunts.
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>>133343693
Yeah as I've said my consciousness can supress my urges and drives (to some extent to be fair). I don't eat like a glutton even though my instincts tell me so. I don't jerk off regularly even though I have a sexual drive. And just like that I don't care about my tribe's or race's perservation and advancement.
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>>133339723
Is this real? A Google search for "American Conservative Democracy Act" (in quotation marks) returned no results, and neither did a reverse image search.
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>>133338993
You have no idea what you are fuckin talking about. Stop confusing objective for subjective you fucking brainlet

.t biologist
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I'm a girl, so I can't
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>>133343854
Why do you care about what you leave on this world once your gone? Do you believe in rebirth or some other superstition?
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>>133335951
A happy marriage
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>>133344002
Never met a married man that claimed to be happy or didn't bitch about it.
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>these are the posters telling you that MGTOW is bad

ignore them and enjoy your freedom
just make sure you improve yourself by eating healthy, developing your career and working out
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guys, only 7% of all women worth it to fuck, if you are not rich or an alpha, you wont get any of them, nobody is stoping to marry an ugly fat feminist and have 10 kids so why just dont do it and help the white race? so what are you waiting for?.
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>>133343991
Reincarnation follows bloodlines, why do you think the people at the top are so obsessed with keeping it in the family
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>>133343975
>not being a WGTOW

It's not some bitter, virginity/rejection-fueled attempt at revenge on the opposite sex for me though, I just think it's in my best interests.
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>>133344154
You have to be lacking basic biological education if you believe in reincarnation. The people at the top are obsessed with keeping the wealth in their families.
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>>133344038
There's always something to bitch about. Just because someone is bitching doesn't mean they're unhappy.
I was bitching about my life before marriage, am still bitching about life during marriage but I'm happier now than before.
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>>133344312
Yeah mate everything's about money and materialism, even to the people who know what the universe really is. Good luck with that one
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>>133344352
>Just because someone is bitching doesn't mean they're unhappy.
>Swedecuck.
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>>133336107
>implying society is functioning now.
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>>133344312
Actually junior biology dictates that reincarnation is a certainty

>every god damned molecule in your body will be distributed and incorporated into other living things

.t biologist

You are just confusing you expectations of reincarnation with reality
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>>133344090
>just make sure you improve yourself by eating healthy, developing your career and working out

>eating healthy is an accomplishment in USA
lel
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>>133344440
>recycling matter is the same thing as a supposed soul returning to earth in another form
>inb4 souls are energy or some new age bullshit
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>>133344444
Checked
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>>133335951
>Not your protector
>Not your provider
Yes you are you fucking spineless fag, men are innately built with those desires and security is what a woman is attracted to. Grow some balls you bitch
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>>133335951

Not mgtow but they make a lot of good points about modern women.

It's a shame most of them are guys who have been divorced raped and vowed off women forever or secret incels who pretend they aren't.

Also pic related is pretty accurate.
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>>133344444
Well with a food industry geared towards selling you as much sugar and palm oil as possible, it is.

Eating healthy is incredibly expensive in the US.
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>hey white guys end your bloodline LOL
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>>133339422
Hahaha, just like they always respond.

>ROASTIE!

When faced with a superior opponent, the MGTOW fag will resort to calling the opponent a roastie. This is because they know they have lost, and their last saving grace is to label you as the one thing they hate, a roastie. It only harms them however, as it shows that the only way they can make themselves feel victorious is by convincing themselves that their opponent is a woman, which shows that they can't compete with another man.

>>133343808
>MUH DEFINITIONS!

This is basically the MGTOW fag trying to put off their opponents argument by turning an implied meaning into a literal one. It doesn't help them in any way, and in the end, it just shows that they are socially inept and can't understand the concept of an implied meaning, such as slang and joking terms.
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>>133344503

>eincarnation must mean souls because of me feelings

Wrong, Buddhism literally believes reincarnation is a part of you will be incorporated into another living thing

says nothing about a soul
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>>133344766
Ahh the "I don't know words. It you are a moron" defense.

Very intelligent.
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>>133344777
>Buddhist bullshit.
Well, there you go.
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>>133344751
>hey white guys become slaves LOL
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>>133344722
Not really. Buy fruits meats and vegetables from the supermarket and cook all your own meals. I spend under $300US a month on food and eat very healthy
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Some of yall niggas really don't even understand MGTOW, you're just assuming shit because you've been hypnotized by the almighty vagina. Plenty of MGTOW still have sex, there's just no reason to be in a relationship or be married because sex is the end-game. Keep shaming us MGTOW men and I'll just flash all the happiness and money I have from not wasting my life with a walking vagina who thinks she's better than you.
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>>133344440
Yes, that's totally what is meant by the commonplace use of the word reincarnation you semantic nigger.
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>>133343962
you don't have to be a biologist to know the difference between objective and subjective

you take your appeal to authority and shove it up your loose asshole
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>I HATE ALL MEN! THEY ARE FUCKING SEXIST AND ONLY WANT THE HOT ONES! I WILL NEVER BE WITH MEN EVER GAIN BECAUSE THEY JUST TAKE ADVANTAGE AND CONTROL US WITH A SYSTEM THAT ONLY CONTROLS MEN! FUCK MEN!

MGTOW will show utter disgust with feminist women like these.

Now replace "MEN" with "WOMEN".

Welcome to MGTOW, the male version of feminist.
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>>133344879
Excellent retort.
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>>133343629
You mean... not being retarded? There's no need to call it this weird movement-esque name, there's no need to come up with all these infographics, memes, and stances, all you have to do is learn from others' experiences, and not fall for the same tricks they did, and man the fuck up instead of getting whipped by pussy. As many have said in the roasties threads: "Your woman will only disrespect you if you allow it to happen", and "Your SO should never disrespect you, and you should stand up for yourself", like that story of the girl in a 5 years relationship that said her boyfriend was very traditional, and then she suggested to have an "open relationship" and nigga just outright walked away from their relationship and told her to fuck off, that's what men should strive for, not this MGTOW cuckery
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>>133335951

>Have you swallowed the MGTOW Pill?
No.
>What's stopping you?
I'm not a corny faggot who needs emotional support groups with other grown men just because women are whores these days.

All the spergs who were inspired to form their own "fight clubs" after that movie came out years ago are exactly the type of corny guys who gravitate towards this shit. You all know the type.
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>>133344838
>I don't understand implications

You are only proving my point. Stop posting fag.
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>>133344934
Stop watching porn so you see them as human beings. Reproduce, provide, be a man
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>>133345006
This

women are trash cause your trash we well. How about instead of being a little whinny neet faggot you go work out, and manage your women like a true alpha. Women will become conservative again when men do.
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>>133344990
>tries to sound like a know it all about science
>actual scientist tells him her is a retard and is talking out of his ass while talking down to people

HURR I DINT NEED UR SCIENCE

You fucking moron
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>>133345020
Well, I gave you the inb4 for new age bullshit. Then you spouted some. What did you expect, dumbass?
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>>133344946
Read a book moron
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>>133345155
Biology is new age

Yeah you are a retard
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>>133335951
There isn't a single MGTOW that is 7/10 at the very least and taller than 6'0". You can't refute this. MGTOW is just a damage control mechanism for the unattractive and beta (aka you).
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The anon that are saying this is a bastardised form of male feminism are right btw.

Could you all stop being fuckin soft cunts please.
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>>133345252
>biology is new age
(You)
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>>133343453
So you admit you are no better than women because you are doing the same shit.
Thanks for helping with white genocide, goyim.
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>>133345083
>Reproduce, provide, be a man

Why? So she can just divorce me down the line and take my shit and kids?
Cool, why not
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>>133345526
>Yeah, don't give them a reason to improve. Stay a slave, goy. There's a reason you shills always come out in force for these threads. With men giving their money to their wives to spend on frivolous shit Jews lose a lot of income.
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>>133345127
no, no one has said why i am wrong. she said I'm wrong, oh and btw im a biologist. That's not an argument.
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>>133345707

The mental gymnastics that you need to go through in order for you to end up considering the pro-MGTOW opposition to marriage and procreation as being the most anti-Zionist stance for your people is truly astounding.

PROTIP: You're delusional.
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How come I never see anyone properly answer the question "Why do you need to get married in the first place?"
You can't biologically have kids without marriage?
You need to sign away all your shit to be in a relationship?
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>>133346004
>Protecting yourself.
>Mental gymnastics.
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>>133344906
Enjoy dying alone, then
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>>133346155
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2623873/You-really-nagged-death-Excessive-demands-partners-double-risk-dying-middle-age.html
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>>133345707
Real men don't need a "moral support group" or whatever to not take shit from women,if you havent realized this until now is because you have had no experience before.
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>>133346155
Why wouldn't I?
Or are you one of those people who has to depend on someone else their entire life, never being able to be alone?
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>>133346219
This lack of men's clubs and groups is a modern invention. Enforced on you by feminism.

Ironically, MGTOW is probably the most independent solo thing you can do. Meanwhile you go cry home to your wife.
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>>133345317
nah have been abused pretty bad by my ex, saw my dad getting abused by my mom, got raped nobody cared and since then every small injustice in the interactions between women and men just rustles my jimmies to much to put up with it.

i actually seem to be alpha but i just can´t trust them, and they make me angry as hell because of their "we are discriminated"-bs which is extremely offending for someone with my history.
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>>133346219
Nigga some men have been going through life being lied to the entire time. Niggas really go through life thinking they need to simp out and be a slave to women. Some men never had any male guidance.
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>>133346087

Haha. Do you know how badly minorities are out-breeding you on all sides? If you MGTOW creeps had you way for even ONE generation the West would be done for.
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>>133346279
I'm a man, I don't cry to anyone, I face my own problems, and I know how to deal with women, unlike you.
Feminism and this shit are a product of a pussified society full of weak people.
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>>133346446
Then why not deal with the minorities?
They're gonna breed like shit regardless of what MGTOW do
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>>133346446
The problem isn't the breeding. The problem is letting them in. Quality > quantity. Seems you want to be a nigger? Go ahead.

>>133346506
>I'm totally manly because a woman said I could be.
Cuuuuuck~
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>>133336107
>It's unsustainable and defeatist. A society can't function when all the non-Chads opt out.
Automation removes the need for a large workforce.

>Ideally we'd kill the Chads and level the playing field but that's "crazy" somehow.
So you are in favor of dysgenics?
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>>133346442
You were a spineless cunt and got fucked over by a woman?
Im not going to give you a shoulder to cry on, im going to laugh at your fucking face for being a beta.
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>>133336184
A real cuck you are
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>>133346336
>all women are the same
You don't blame big dogs for biting people, you blame the owners for being retarded. The owners of big dogs didn't form their own emotional support group saying they weren't going to "stand for this abuse", did they?
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>>133346527

>regardless of what MGTOW do

Not regardless. MGTOW logic increases the divide within the span of a single generation.

What do I care really though all the guys who are MGTOW know they are too fucked up for marriage and kids for X,Y and Z reasons but they need to tell themselves they're doing it for "MGTOW reasons" instead. If they need to LARP to deal it then so be it.
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>>133346547
Thats some heavy projection.
Im a man because I deal with my own problems.
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>>133335951
Shouldt stop you from spreading your seed. fegs better understand that you shouldnt take care of anybody elses baby unless its yours if you do other than the reason being i want to get some pussy your a cuck and dont deserve to be called a man or even a boy in any manner.
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>>133346743
>By marrying a woman, who is the problem.
Sure buddy.
>inb4 my marriage is perfect
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>>133346547

>Seems you want to be a nigger? Go ahead.

Tough talk for an ideological cuck. Enjoy "MGTOW" bitch boy.
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>>133336184
>>133341522
>>133343129
>>133345006
>>133345397
>le mgtow is le feminism for men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiODc8vS31U
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>>133346506
the funny thing is, your self concept of "being a real man" is what keeps you in a prison.

It´s like getting a shiny medal for going out to fight for some capitalists money, and saying "i am a brave soldier" sure what you do is a sacrifice, but you are getting used and you just don´t care because you got this shiny piece of metal with "real man" written on it.

>>133346712
As good as every women calls herself a feminist, demands a mixture of "equal rights" and special treatment how it suits her, behaves like a child if she feels like just to be offended if you don´t see her as as capable as you a minute afterwards.
And i don´t see many women fighting against feminism, so yes i guess they are all somehow guilty.
And even if not, the laws and norms are still rigged so it´s extremely dangerous to get near a woman.
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>>133346818
>Breed like a nigger.
>Don't care about the consequence and ignore the actual problems.
>Get called what you're acting like.
>b-b-but yo'ure the c-c-uck!
I'm not the one raising Jamal's baby. :^)
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>>133346783
Source of that?
And no, the problem is feminists and pathetic weakling betas who have literally no idea how to deal with women.
And no, right now I ended a 3 year old relationship because I cheated on my gf.
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subscribing to an ideology to feel like you've rejected another, is weak
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>>133346919
>I'm a cheater!
>But you're the problem!
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Opinion discarded.
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What's stopping me?

It's retarded, that's what stops me.
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>>133346835

>brainlet debates through quick youtube videos made around shitpost slogans of /pol/ topics

The average MGTOW person on display. Kek at the faggot mushmouth lisp and queef voice too. This is exactly how I suspect you all sound.
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>>133335951
Huh Gaaaay!
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>>133346868
What fucking prison, what the fuck are you even talking about?
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Its hard to find a decent lady person these days. You'll have to go through a maze which is kinda bs lul.
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>>133345098
Leo?
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If anything is a good campaign to restrict a group's birth rate, it's this movement.

Marriage and family is crucial for health stability and wellbeing. Fuck off with your antinatalist propaganda.
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>>133347015
>He can't understand simple analogies.
Simpleton.
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>>133339329
>>133343854
>>133341862
>le we need women for reproduction
Artificial wombs will make women obsolete, niggers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuWUqncZgv4
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>>133346971
What does me being a cheater have to do with anything?
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>>133347046
>bs lul
Why so you talk like a redditor?
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>>133346894

>project onto me because you're stressed about hypothetical scenarios in your life that haven't even come to pass yet, if they ever do

The average MGTOW person on display yet again.
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>>133335951
I get sex and companionship, that's what's stopping me. You should try it sometime.
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>>133347122
>I'm a degenerate!
It means you have zero fucking moral standing in this argument, degenerate.
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Mgtow + Prostitutes is the answer (At least till the next paradigm shift). And im not some beta vigin. I used to be a straight mack but dont see putting in the time even just for some puss worth it now that ive gotten older. "Relationships" don't even really exist in this current state of society. The more that go mgtow, the more roasties will have to turn to prostitution to fill the cuck void, the market gets flooded prostitute prices drop. Everyone wins. Eventually things will go back to girls having to be respectable to make it without literal whoreing, but will be years till that shift occurs. Those who are already hoes cant be saved, and honestly why would you want to
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>>133347110
No seriously, in what metaphorical prison am I?
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>>133341243
I've actually posted on Reddit before and hitting enter behaves differently there.
You don't get empty lines unless you hit enter three or more times, at least on the few boards I tried.

I don't get the Reddit spacing meme overall, I hadn't noticed posts formatted in any way differently.
Whats different is the words used, 4chan is much more coarse and much more meta, a lot of inside jokes based on older inside jokes, etc.
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>>133347165
What makes me talk like a redditor when im on 4chan? dfuq
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>>133338993
Why is it that men want to protect women in general though? From an evolutionary perspective, shouldn't they only want to protect their wives, daughters, and women they have a decent chance of fucking?
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>>133347051
What no who the hell is leo

James?
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>>133347102

>If anything is a good campaign to restrict a group's birth rate, it's this movement.

They are no useful idiots, friend. Not at all. Never.
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>>133347199
Oh look, another one's about to cry like a fucking baby because I fucked another girl, are you sure you aren't my ex, cuckold?
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>>133347102
See >>133347114
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>>133335951
In EVERY MGTOW thread you get the same discourse:

1) Inexperienced but horny kiddos think every guy just want to fuck anything that moves and the entirety of social interaction revolves around fucking and MGTOWs are fat autistic virgin neckbeards who can't get laid.

2) Actual MGTOWs who are experienced grown men who are warning about the dangers of women + the state vs you, and how you can be easily taken for all you've got.

3) The "Yes, thats right goy - dont reproduce" jew shills - yes JEW SHILLS. The thing (((they))) want you to do is YES reproduce children to a raving tinder psycho / bar slut who will NEVER grow up and you will be raising her as well as your kids until she bails on you and takes half your shit after dragging you through divorce court.

The jew agenda is NOT to stop whites reproducing, its to produce a WEAKER generation with poor parents so the state can become the new parents. No reproduction means no goy-cows for milking. Why the fuck would (((they))) not want a new generation of tax-slaves? (((They))) own the banking system AND the law courts / judicial process.

(((The agenda))) is all about making money from broken individuals from broken families - NOT stopping reproducing.

MGTOW is redpilled because its men refusing to get fucked over by the jew system - and (((they))) are worried. (((They))) are worried that (((they))) have pushed the feminist "high maintainance woman" meme too far and thought men would become pussyfied slaves to nagging bitches and never thought men would just go their own way.
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>>133336107
>A society can't function when all the non-Chads opt out.
That is exactly what the end goal is. Can't get women? Then ruin their game by not playing.
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>>133347201
High quality post

>>133347209
Having to provide for a women,
having to sacrifice your live for the protection of one
not being allowed to feel/show soft emotions,

and so on, maybe you like it, but since you have the "everybody who does not live like this is a pussy"- attitude i´m not sure if it is your free will which drives you to this.
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>>133335951
MGTOW is pretty much feminism on the other side of the fence. It uses the same illogical arguments, it has the same amount of hate, and it answers fire with fire. Given I hate being a hypocrite I would never like to be a MGTOW, or a Feminist.
Here's a pop-quiz. You fight for equality, but you hate the other sex, what are you? You're a sexist hypocrite, doesn't matter which side of the fence you're on.
Besides, my waifu is female. I could never turn her away.
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>>133347328
has nothing to do with my point. artificial wombs do not tackle the problems of 1. not actually having a wife and 2. raising a child with parents who are a husband and wife (the best dynamic when it comes to prevention of shit like poverty, addiction, mental illness, success etc.)
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>>133347339

You have sexual frustration seeping out of your eyeballs.

Go and find a nice church girl. Marry. Have kids.

You losers talk like it's guttersluts all the way across the board. The problem isn't with all the shitty fish in the waters, it's with your ability to catch a decent one. Itemize all the autism in your posts that you want. That is the real problem here and you refuse to deal. It is your skill level and nothing else.
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>>133335951
Fuck MGTOW. Literally a place for nerds to vent their frustrations.

Hey I want some kind of poll supporters can take so I can see the average characteristics. Lemme guess, its gonna be:
>5'
>average dadbod build
>introverted
>vidya games as a hobby
>sub 75k salary

And later

"BAWWWW why cant I get this 10/10 supermodel to date me? All women are EVIL FUCK THEM gonna dedicate my life to vidya."
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>>133347339
Wuhhwhahauwahwauhuahaaaaaaat? There is more to life than fucking!??!!

Also low IQ ethno-nationalist tribesmen are the ones fetishizing breeding, they are genuine and not shills.
They can't find happiness in themselves, so they seek it in their group, and wish that group grew and got stronger.

You know, like what OP did when he started this thread. Trying to grow his MGTOW group, because he wants to be part of something bigger.
The reproduction issue is very comparable, I feel. The "white" group grows by whites reproducing, like the MGTOW group grows by converting.
Can't blame them for trying when this thread is proof that MGTOWs also try.
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>>133347339
>Men refusing to get fucked over be the jew system
>Becomes MGTOW

Holy shit you losers are literally trying to blind yourselves just to protect your fragile egos.
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>>133346657
Naw I was never fucked over because I already adopted the MGTOW philosophy of just not dating women. I still talk to them and have sex every now and again but getting married and having a family isn't on my to-do list because marriage is for poor people. I've got money and I'm keeping it till I die.
I just acknowledge that some men grow up with no guidance and not all of us are smart enough to figure things out on their own. If you were raised by literally all women like some men I know you'd probably see things a little differently. Women choose to become single mothers and as a result helped create MGTOW because they tried to raise boys the same way they raise girls. The shit is fucked up anon and you don't even know.
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>>133347498
Feminism is forced on men. Mgtow is simply walking away. It aint about equality, its about walking away.
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>>133340027
are you sure?
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>>133347705
goyim made his choice
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>>133347718
Feminism isn't forced on men any more than MGTOW is forced on women. The fact you're falling for the
>feminism is serious
meme means you're not nearly smart enough to understand MGTOW. Feminism is a loud minority, and we see feminism as just as much a threat as they see MGTOW.
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the serious proponents of MGTOW are stunted individuals who think that since a big portion of women are trashy, slutty and unstable, then a man should not pursue any relationships whatsoever (not even healthy and beneficial ones). i suppose this stems from a mistaken assumption that since the people i've met are trash, then all people must be, and thus trashiness is an inherent feature and the entire group ought to be dismissed. any mature individual will steer clear from MGTOW immediately, as stable and mature adults see MGTOW for what it is: bitter ramblings of immature and unsociable nerds turned into a movement
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>>133347559
Im not frustrated sexually. I'm confident I can attract women. The problem is why would I? I am too busy expanding my business which has been great since I chose to be single to deal with women. I would never have had this opportunity if I had a girlfriend.

Your projecting from your perspective and demonstrates your immaturity regarding women.

Sex becomes less important when you mature.
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>>133347589
>sub 75k salary

The average university educated advanced degree american makes sub 75k, you imbecile.
Its 72k on average, and if we drop university degrees it goes to 40k average.
Much lower if we include the zero income unemployed.
And this is in the USA, richest country on the planet.

So yes, they are very, very, very likely to be sub 75k. You haven't left your basement if you think thats somehow a mark of a failed man.
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MGTOW here. I play and DM D&D and Starfinder twice a week and still get laid. I just have no interest in committing because of how loose Western women are. I have no interest in popping off in a chick who's sucked and fucked more dick than the miles I travel to work.

Find a religious virgin? No thanks, I'm not religious. Find a non-religious virgin? They're usually land whales and the ones that aren't are psychotic.

The one girl that I was in a committed relationship with and who I bought a ring to get engaged to cheated on me with five guys at one time and let me walk in on it because I didn't DMhax her 17th level character that she'd played for two years back to life.

I'm done. I'll pop off on a chick's face and then watch her leave after she cleans up.
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>>133335951
What are the benefits of being an MGTOW other than the crippling depression and loneliness?
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>>133346732
What MGTOW does doesn't affect nigger and mudshit birth rates in any way, you just want a rat race which would cause shit loads more problems instead
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>>133347539
It would still mean that women are no longer absolutely necessary. It's still possible to raise children without women. Another thing we could do is develop some type of caretaker robots with sufficiently advanced AI required to take care of a child.
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>>133347664

>They can't find happiness in themselves, so they seek it in their group, and wish that group grew and got stronger.

Devastating banter. 100% true as well.
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>>133347983
STORY TIME ANON
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>>133347705
My ego is not fragile. I am confident I can attract women. I work in a women only industry, namely make up. All the people I work with and for are women. And I'm good at my job, which women appreciate.

Women yet remain a nightmare and once you tie yourself to one you basically renounce your rights.
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>muh sexbots

Why are all mgtowcucks so creepy and autistic? Is it because they are all permavirgin omega males from reddit?
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>>133335951
drown the bitches
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>>133347983
that's as much a problem in you and your emotional functioning as it was in the girl who cheated on you. healthy adjusted individuals see women who are likely to cheat from a mile away.

men are such fucking losers nowadays i swear. how about you just find a girl who is actually stable and raised well instead of chasing after the insufferable trash in the top 20% attractiveness group of women
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Find me men who get MORE sex in marriage or LTR than before entering it. Looks some are butthurt other men don't fall the trap. You can have sex and children without being slave to a woman. Most men in marriage will end up as sexless broke loosers chained to female they no longer find attractive or divorce raped.

And BTW having 1-2 kids is no longer enough. To make change and outbreed Africa people would have to start having 7-10 kids, it won't happen, so don't shill for reproduction and 20 years of child support. The only way to restore balance is depopulate the ones who breed too much (Macron hinted this is going to be the way)

Truth is most modern women are useless and entitled, all the cute ones are turned into whores who is left are mentally unstable women unfit for marriage and family. Most women want to settle when they are 26+ and are about to hit the wall. That's simply bad deal.
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>>133348004
Slaying pussy and saving money are pretty big advantages. I also never have to worry about my son or daughter ever being raped or killed. Upsides all around.
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>>133348024

>you just want a rat race

I just want you to stop being a lamentable soft cunt who spazzes out about possible misfortunes that haven't even befallen him yet.

Men have had bullshit to deal with all their lives. Back when marriage was a surer thing they had the draft. It's always something. Fortune favours the bold. Go out and be a man.
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>>133348326
Rat race between the races you dumb shit, good luck outbreeding niggers, hint: it won't work
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>>133348304
>Slaying pussy

Yeah I am sure you are not a virgin that masturbates to tranny hentai all day
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>>133348004
Ha ha! Its not depressing or lonely. The most depressed and alone I have ever felt in my life is in a relationship.
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>>133348025
LOL. yeah, it's possible to also raise children without MEN, well look how well that panned out.
fuck me, when will you people realize that both a MAN and a WOMAN is required to raise stable individuals in society.
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Whats stopping me? not being a huge faggot that's what.
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>>133348405
*tips fedora*
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MGTOW are either
A: bitter incels
B: men with awful taste in women so they got burned
C: celibates who just dont care about women
Guess which one is rarest
>join cult of disregarding women
>spend life bitching about women
?
???
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>>133335951
Is this some sort of justification to being virgin?
>Not your protector
Fine
>Not your provider
Obviously
>Not your sex-object
What? is this serious?
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>>133348403
You're real clever. Not retarded at all. Go make eye contact autist.
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>>133347589
5'10
I just ETS'd from the National Guard and had a 352 on the extended PT scale
I go to game stores and DM Adventurer's League games every week with new people each week.
Yeah, I play video games. I also play tabletop RPGs which require a hearty imagination. I also hunt, hike, fish and rock climb. I got back from a trip to Red River Gorge yesterday.
I make 60k a year but it's more than enough for me. I own two houses and rent one out. I'll be buying a third next year and renting that one out then.

>>133348144
It's not that interesting. Her character died, I wouldn't let them use true resurrection because it was no longer possible because of the party's actions (they helped a wizard kill the gods for badass magic items) and she cheated on me with five guys she found on craigslist. Last I checked she was working as a nurse and has a serious alcoholism issue.
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>>133348395

PROTIP: I'm not white.

I ultimately don't care if you fail. Choose resignation if you'd like. Just know that whites have gotten soft in the world because of types like you. You personally.

You're so weak I am trying to motivate you not to kamikaze your own race out of pity for you.
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>>133348518
Its true. Get into a relationship and you will come to know its a nightmare and nothing like your expectation. It seems appealing only if you have never had a relationship and imagine how awesome it will be.
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Dont worry you'll all die anyways since the rich will most likely kill you cattle off anyway. The real reasons problems exist is becuase of money and greed.
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>>133348523
this post is spot on. and those people aren't wise or intelligent either. what they think of as wisdom due to having experience with the wrong types of people, is actually being extremely shortsighted and thinking that people should just dating women altogether, in order to exact revenge on ALL women through the behavior of other men.

mgtow only caters to emotionally stunted, unstable men who can not function in relationship period.
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>>133348637
What she had a five man gang bang?
lmao what is wrong with women
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>>133348523
This. At least in the past ugly omega males just accepted their reality nowdays thanks to reddit (r/redpill) they join some weird gay virginity cult and autistically screech about the women they supposedly chose to ignore on a 247 basis.
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>>133335951

No, I've just got the way of slaying pussy on tinder.
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>>133347924
You're literally just saying the same crap ass everyone else, assuming all who claim MGOTW are bitter and immature. Bruh grown men for generations have been giving out red pills telling dudes to watch out and saying dumb shit like "no money no honey" or "its cheaper to keep her" Men who go MGTOW actually take that advice. We've seen the dark side of female nature and the current laws and court system only encourages women to fuck over men as much as they want. Women literally don't see us as human, we're just means to an end. And by an end, I mean another husband to leech off of. I seriously don't get why men like you are so angry that we choose to walk away. You should be grateful, more women for you right? Women are so lovely and won't ever ruin your life and take half your shit if given the chance. I have seen and heard too many stories and men getting absolutely destroyed, not by the woman, but by the court system. A system that does not give a single fuck about men. We are disposable and worthless next to the almighty vagina even though men built everything. Keep assuming that because you know how to deal with women you can change the court system. You will one day realize how wrong you are and how immature you actually are. Stop assuming MGTOW is solely about women, the information is out there anon, stop ignoring it
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>>133348681
>get into a relationship
>being this retarded and thinking that every relationship is the same regardless of the type of person you're dating.

holy shit the people on this board
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>>133348523
Its not about disrespecting women.

I'm saying just work on your self and improve yourself and you will see how much you can achieve once you stop making room for women.

I've never been healtier, happier or wealthier once I stopped making my main motivation to attract women and my main motivation became only to better myself.
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>>133348523

No dude. Most women chase 20% of top men, MGTOWs are simply smart men who refuse to settle down for used old whores. Women give away sex and youth to Chads and then you expect other men to man up, first they need to to woman up.

Go ahead retards and settle down with used 28+ whore, who will never be loyal because of large numbers of cocks she had. Then in 2-4 years she hits the wall and you are chained to fat, old , crazy ugly woman for lifetime until she divorces you and steals your money and kids.

If you didn't get woman for marriage in the age 18-24 , her prime years just skip it until you are ok with leftovers. 4chan is full of pussiefied cucks willing to sacrifice for the sake of their cucked nations.
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>>133348678
Oh so that's why you're so retarded
White genocide isn't a problem, it's the nigger and mudshit birth rates that are the problem in most western countries right now. I don't understand why you think a rat race of breeding would benefit anyone in the long term
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>>133335951
MGTOW is feminism for men,
it's the same exact thing,
they have tried to destroy female gender roles with this bs progressive-feminism and this shit is doing the same for men,
how can you swallow this shit?
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MGTOW are a bunch of men that want to be women. The thing MRA's and feminist's don't get is that men and women are different so there is no such thing as gender equality. Each gender has specific roles their supposed to perform.
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>>133341337
Congratulations, if women didn't push for work they wouldn't have to do it while rising children.
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I met my wife in 2004. We were married in 2010. We have two children together. She doesn't work. I am the sole provider. We are both happy. So this meme doesn't fit my situation at all.
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>>133348261
Sorry? That's reaching, mate. I started dating her in high school. She was a virgin, as was I. For four years she was lovey-dovey as shit. Even when I went away to basic training, I got seven letters each week because she wrote a letter every single day.

Sorry for not being able to see into the future her reaction to me not letting her character live.

And I'll have you know she was raised extremely well. Fucks sake, her mom and dad almost disowned her when they found out what she did because they had raised her to be loyal to family and loved ones always.
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>>133348888
checked

btw. Hitler was MGTOW too.
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>>133348406
There aren't enough redpilled women to go around. Maybe in the long term, we can genetically engineer women to be more rational, less neurotic, less cunty, and have higher group loyalty. The average modern degenerate roastie is unfit to raise children.
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>>133347882
Feminism is forced on men through the state and also through "shaming" in the social arena.
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How about you step away from feminism, cuckoldry and whoredom without tying yourself to a cringefest movement? Hell, if you wanna belong to something so badly, just go white supremacist or fascist, like something that makes sense.
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>>133348826
Western women are all exposed to the same (((propaganda))). Thats the problem. Of course all women and relationships aren't the same, but a majority of PEOPLE are exposed to the same (((propaganda))) and influenced by the same shit. This is designed to corrupt their minds and you will never be more influential than the TV/Movies/Music etc.
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>>133349042

Better yet, make yourself a quality person and you will attract quality.
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>>133348810
No. What I'm saying is that MGTOW-people mistakenly assume that EVERY SINGLE WOMAN ON EARTH is manipulative, will divorce you for money, cheat on you, all the evil shit you can imagine women being capable of.

IT'S NOT FUCKING TRUE, IT DEPENDS ON THE PERSON, ESPECIALLY ON HOW WELL SHE IS RAISED.

They are called RED FLAGS that you look out for, indicators of instability, personality disorders ,mental health issues.

yes, I understand the court systems (in the US only btw) is fucked. That means only that you should be extremely meticulous and considerate when you think of marrying a person. Marry women of CHARACTER. Not women of certain level of attractiveness.
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>>133348888
DisREGARD you utter wankstain.
I'd ask if you could understand English but your flag tells the story by itself
>>133348899
So its the new form of
>tfw too intelligent to procreate
Literally accepting being a mistake of nature.
Duly noted, not sure what else i expected
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>>133349026
Could you give me the evidence of this please? Also, I don't want 2 cherry picked articles where 1 woman decided to make a false rape accusation or some shit. I want studies, statistics, or something that actually proves your point.
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>>133348721

Read some redpill books idiot, like rational male, manipulated man or pook. Men don't need any relationships for happiness, relationships are for women and for emotionally stunted, unstable men. She gives you same vagina over and over and you pay with time and money, until you both hate each other or you end up in /r/deadbederooms

Both men and women are by nature polygamous and relationship were invented so women can leech resources with their pussy.
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>>133335951
A little something called the 'Evolutionary Imperative to spread your genes'.
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>>133348984
Hitler actually really loved women. He was FAR from MGOTW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoPyi7yGjSo
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Has everyone noticed how nearly all MGTOWcucks are into weird sexual fetishes like feet or lolis and other degenerate anime crap?
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>>133348912

I just want to see you sad sack faggots go out and have kids because I know that even though you're a total faggot in life as of this moment you probably have a good head your shoulders and you might actually make a decent father one day.
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Oh no the shills, the Jude and the tax man are getting irritable.
Just buy some baby powder honey and it will be ok.
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MGTOWs are just insecure betas.

A true alpha gets girls to serve him, not the other way around. If you behave as a beta provider, girls will treat you that way.

Hit the gym, become more outgoing, get more friends, study philosophy, invest in cryptos and drop that MGTOW shit.
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MGTOW is men's feminism. It's cancer.
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>>133335951
Men need to have higher standards of those women they choose to give their attention to. Its easy to attract bar sluts by throwing money at them, but this is not macho alpha-redpilled behaviour because anyone can do it. Men need to learn some self control and if they are dealing with an un-motherly tinder psycho - yes you can get laid, but theres no lasting relationship there.

By restricting who we give attention to, we are creating a better caliber of woman because they have to up their game. All these tinder psychos and bar sluts are created and made worse by riding the "cock carousel".

You never hear the concept of an alpha-woman on /pol/ because /pol/ for the most part have never concieved such a notion.

Go on dates and meet women. An alpha women is motherly, mannered and courtious and wont fuck you after a few dates. An alpha woman is breeding material. Not a crazy slut. Resist the primal, base level, neanderthal, "suck muh dick" thinking to just get laid, and keep your dick in your pants and have some standards of behaviour - not just "shes hot and up for it"
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>>133348950
You're lying. You already admitted she now suffers from alcoholism. That is a telltale sign of having been raised in instability

Again, choose the women you date wisely. Do not date the mentally ill.

>>133349086
>the majority argument
it's called going through the trash until you find quality. that's what dating IS. meeting, getting to know girls until you find someone who's reliable, trustworthy and has the right values.

this shit about negative influences and propaganda is all NEGATED by upbringing. healthy people adopt the values of their family environment, not the MEDIA's. the media, at best, only has a slight effect on dating behaviors, not a rigid one either.
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>>133349294
This is not true.
I'm into self improvement and expanding my business.
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>>133349461

You own a business and still can't get laid?
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>>133349241
Yes he really admired women, he did that in their role as women not as wannabe men.

He also did not have a girlfriend/wife until his dead and stated that he was "married to Germany."

And that a concubine would be a lot better than a wife, because you had all the benefits without the burden.

So he basically was a MGTOW without hating them, if they were like back then today, i would not hate them neither.
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>>133349114
>marry for character
>not marrying for attractiveness.
Now this dog just ain't gonna fly, nope, no way. You'd have to be insane to go for a stable option
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People can be so think headed. All too often they think sex is some sort of accomplishment in life. Like somehow it is fulfilling a purpose. If you think your only purpose is sex and use it as a means self worth then you have no self worth. When I'm 30 and have a good education and good paying job instead of sleeping around in my 20s, I'm not going to be looking for a woman who hasn't done the same. It's that simple.
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>>133348721
Why do u even care. How is potential competition opting out the game even effect you. If you supposedly so good at finding decent women, why would it bother you others opt out. If you're commited why are you wasting your time trying to convince those who want no part
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>>133349509
>MGTOW can never get laid
>A lot of MGTOW are old men who have been fucked over by females in divorce and are trying to tell younger males not to fall for the trap

Do you understand how those two beliefs are contradictory?
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>>133336161
Fuck off family cuck. Families are for beta fags
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>>133349193
I have read all of the manosphere authors. They are WRONG. Relationships are absolutely beneficial for your health. so are families.

and lol, you don't know shit about how human nature works. yes, humans are sexually polygamous, but they are emotionally monogamous. that's why marriage works and is an age-old universal institution. it has nothing to do with fucking manipulation and leeching you moron. If you really want to go down the path of using parasite analogies, well, men also leech off women and their caretaking/doing favours/wanting to please them, etc., in relationships
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>>133349114
Its in a woman's nature to find the best provider/protector for her and her children. If you're wife (assuming you have one) even thinks there's a possibility she found someone better than you, she will set up the conditions to leave you. i've seen the shit happen time and time again. Marriage was once a way to curb that hypergamous instinct by requiring that hse had a legitimate reason to leave, but no fault divorce means that now she can leave whenever the fuck she wants without any logical reason. The court will then say ok now split your assets. She gets a nice pay out and a new bf. Women don't love men. That's pretty obvious when you actually consider the evidence. ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT. But not all women ACT like that.
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>>133336184
/thread
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What you all MGTOW faggots need is to go to some assbackward place like Venezuela, and grab a girl here, you can either sate your jungle fever and get a brown cutie, or grab a white skinned woman as well, because Venezuela is the real melting pot of diversity, considering countless immigrants came here to escape both world wars. A venezuelan woman won't cuck you if you know how to pick them
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>>133349509
I can get laid. My main motivation in life is not to get laid. Its self improvement. I can improve myself if I have a women in tow. Shes an anchor everytime. I work in make-up too so I meet and am dealing with women solely (pretty much).

The problem in these MGTOW threads is I am dealing with horny kiddos who sole motivation is getting their dick wet by any means This attitude creates the crazy tinder psychos.
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>>133349656
Nice flag kike
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>>133336184
Its married men who die early from stress relalted health issues or suicide.
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>>133349681
Listening to Tom Leykis the last several months is sort of the reason I agree with MGOTW. This rich nigga gets mad pussy and exposes all the female bullshit on the air. Its been confirming shit I've been thinking ever since I was fucking child but too stupid to realize I was smarter than most men.
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>>133349656
Have fun fucking your body pillow while Mohammad replaces your genes
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>>133349768

So you've cut yourself off because you've been hurt before?
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>>133347589
Accurate on all levels except introvert, video games and salary.
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To all fellow MGTOW just remember

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3p-bca5RHs
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>>133343842
Learn how to do it without being subserveant cuck.
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>>133349625
because what MGTOW is arguing is so fucking retarded and childish. i don't care if you die in your 50s when you're lonely as shit and have no purpose in life other than to play video games, but at least don't tell people to do so on false premises: advocates of MGTOW actually want to make you think that all women are by nature parasitical and manipulative, unstable etc. and this is not true. if you find the right person, having a relationship with that person can be the best thing that has ever happened to you. I don't want to deny other people of that experience.

also, why the fuck is competition something I'm worried about? humans dont work like baboon troops where males have to fight each other to have access to females lol.

>>133349574
yes, son. 8/10 girlfriend trope does not really work out for a healthy relationship lol. extremely attractive and wife-material women are EXTREMELY rare. Most quality women are average in attractiveness.

this incredibly attractive gf thing is something you just have to get over. it doesn't matter in the long term. you date for personality and character. if you care about looks so much, why even bother dating? just fuck them and leave
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>>133349729
t.venezuelan woman
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>>133335951
I'm not MGTOW, I'm married, but I'm a fan of MGTOW.
Basically it's all the beta subhuman loser men that have been bred by the past couple generations of garbage-tier parents admitting defeat and guaranteeing that their shit genes won't be passed on because they're not even going to try.
It's a self-solving problem, just give it a generation or two.
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>>133349673
Manospere...

Roastie detected
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>>133349923
I've not "cut myself off" as such. I'm more focused on self improvement and self-development than ignoring that to appease women. Women are more attracted to me than ever, but I've got too much other shit to do than deal with their bullshit. This attitude seems to be really attractive to women ,but I've never actually used it to get with anyone. The more I remain single the more I learn about life, the more I expand my clientbase and the more money I make.
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>>133349673
>caretaking/doing favours/wanting to please them
implying women do stuff like that
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Marriage is slavery.
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>>133348929
Well fuck, the current situation is far from perfect, but I'd take it over the way things were before, when wives were powerless and completely dependent on their husbands. I couldn't imagine how trapped and helpless that feels, a lot of men bitch on here about how unfair divorce laws are, and maybe they should be toned down a bit, but without them it'd be completely unfair to the moms and wives.
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>>133350153
>implying venezuelan women aren't some of the best in the world
Senpai you can say literally anything about this country and the monkeys that live in it, but you surely can't believe that its women aren't top tier, it's the only thing this shithole is known for. It's extremely easy to find a hard-working cutie because the entire country is poor as dirt so they know what struggle is, as long as you avoid most of the top 1%, because they're the exact same roasties that you would find in a first world country
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>>133349681
yes, those cases occur.

but do not fucking tell people that something in women's brains just switch on that make them want to divorce when they see they have a "chance" at someone who's more rich and more attractive. that's just plain incorrect.

you sound like a male-equivalent of a radical feminist who's been reading andrea dworkin. there is no hypergamous instinct. there's just people having their needs met. your wife needs a roof over her and her childrens head, her children fed and intimacy with her husband. that is usually what makes women content in marriages. and fucking lol if you think that everything's going well, kids are happy, life is stable, and suddenly she just decides to break up all that to go after some suit hunk. fuck off man, we wouldn't even exist if women were naturally the way you think they are lol
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The reason the game got so fucked is because of all the betas and cucks, by removing them from the game (For their own benefit) the game can begin to normalize. Beta cucks are like noobs with a horrible kdr feeding the opposition points so they can sit back and rain kill streak after kill streak. Need them to start camping so the other team has to come stick their head out to get their kills, balancing the battlefield
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Honestly, The real betas are the guys who chase women and appease them and do their all to meet their expectations. Look at guys who are in a relationship or married when you are out and about. They are destroyed and depressed.

Once you grow up you'll realise the amount of time you wasted dealing with their shit and how much further along in life you could be without them.
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I'm MGTOW and I will have more kids than you all, because I'm not chained to marriage I can spread my seed to any fertile woman I wish. I will just cuck other men.
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>>133349673
Hahaha what a bunch of bullshit. They only thing marriage does for you is ruins your life and takes away your freedom
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>>133350681
>I will create fatherless children just like nignogs do
>it's fine for children to not have a dad, that surely won't turn them into degenerates
Good goy
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>>133350171
that's literally what the loser websites/people who frequent those circles call themselves: the fucking manosphere. it's not my invention dummy.

>>133350255
lol, you've never had any girl fall in love with you, have you? once the oxytocin kicks in, women are extremely eager to please and easily controlled, to the point that they can even be manipulated. not saying anyone should do this, but it should tell you something
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Also, NEVER WORK WITH OR FOR A MARRIED MAN.

They are fucking sneaky and will never give you a good deal, will complain and will never make any comprimse.

The reason is they are under constant pressure from their woman to get as much and as many resources as possible. They are impossible to work with.
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>>133349673
>Relationships are absolutely beneficial for your health
this 100%

most of you are all fucked up by being constantly rejected, but there really is someone out there, and after they fuck you over, there is someone else. She or he may not fit your standards, but the whole point is to see their humanity, even if they're "a dumb roastie on easy mode." You eventually need a partner in this life or you will find life not worth living. Go check out the wizards sometime. I think their most active board is /dep/ which makes 4+4chan's /suicide/ look like a positive feelings blog

expect to be fucked over a lot in this life, but don't cry like a bitch with a skinned knee
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>>133350875
This.
Married men are pathetic cuckolds
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>>133350763
you haven't read much have you.

look up the studies. marriage is the best mechanism for keeping a family together and preventing single parenthood. children from married parents do better in school, less addiction, less mental illness, LESS LIKELY TO LIVE IN POVERTY.

if you're gonna argue on marriage, actually know what you're talking about first.
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>>133351006
You can prove anything with statistics

They are bullshit
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>>133350234

If it's true that you could get laid, why not get a FWB?
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>Game is rigged
>But it's your fault if you lose
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>>133351104
basement nerd detected
Marriage and Health

On average, husbands and wives are healthier, happier and enjoy longer lives than those who are not married.
Men appear to reap the most physical health benefits from marriage and suffer the greatest health consequences if they divorce.
Married mothers have lower rates of depression than single or cohabiting mothers, probably because they are more likely to receive practical and emotional support from their child’s father and his family.
Marriage and Wealth

Married couples build more wealth on average than singles or cohabiting couples.
Married men earn more money than do single men with similar education and job histories.
Married women are economically better off than divorced, cohabiting or never-married women.

Marriage and Children

Children raised by their own married mother and father are:

Less likely to be poor or to experience persistent economic insecurity
More likely to stay in school, have fewer behavioral and attendance problems, and earn four-year college degrees
Less vulnerable to serious emotional illness, depression and suicide
More likely to have positive attitudes towards marriage and greater success in forming lasting marriages
Marriage and Crime/Domestic Violence

Married women are at lower risk for domestic violence than women in cohabiting or dating relationships.
Boys raised in single-parent homes are more likely to engage in criminal and delinquent behavior than those raised by two married biological parents.
Married women are significantly less likely to be the victims of violent crime than single or divorced women. Married men are less likely to perpetrate violent crimes than unmarried men.
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>>133351359

Marriage and Society

The institution of marriage reliably creates the social, economic and affective conditions for effective parenting.
Being married changes people’s lifestyles and habits in ways that are personally and socially beneficial. Marriage is a “seedbed” of prosocial behavior.
Marriage generates social capital. The social bonds created through marriage yield benefits not only for the family but for others as well, including the larger society.

Sources: Why Marriage Matters: Twenty-Six Conclusions from the Social Sciences (Institute for American Values); Healthy Marriages, Healthy Lives: Research on the Alignment of Health, Marital Outcomes and Marriage Education (California Healthy Marriages Coalition); Testimony of Dr. Barbara Dafoe Whitehead, National Marriage Project, before the U.S. Senate Subcommittee on Children and

you're a fucking idiot if you still think marriage and families are somehow negative to humans and society
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>>133337535
>would you just let some chick get assaulted or raped?
I am not MGTOW, but the answer is obviously yes if she's a stranger.
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>>133351137
Whats a FWB?
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>>133351972

>not cooperating with strangers to protect the community

Don't be a faggot. The public's reticence to defend themselves and their peers has allowed a rise in crime and with it an increase in state powers to police.
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>>133350936
Relationships are absolutely detrimental to mens health. Especially if the have a daughter.

The excessive stress often leads to depression and suicide and the woman feels empowered that she created that feeling and can then leech off the emotion of other betas by feigning victimhood that there were "left alone to raise their child".

Every.
Fucking.
Time.
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>>133352170
2beta4me
If she doesn't share my values (99% certain for a random chick), she ain't my peer. She shoulda brought her own man, gun or both.
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>>133352154

A person you do fun things with, you aren't dating, but you are fucking.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CybGo6hALVo
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>>133352667
Oh right, "Friends with benefits".
This attention women get by doing that is literally creating these tinder psychos and barsluts. This is the "cock carosel" as they say. This does not benefit anyone and creates a deep seated psychosis in women that will never be appeased later in life. Women that do this will guaranteed ruin men they date or marry later. Its not good for the guy either - it will only leave you empty and wondering why.

Sex is just not the be all and end all after about the age of 30.

See here also:>>133349398
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