>God didn't creat the eart- Ummm no sweetie he did

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God won the popular vote!

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>that first panel

It would be cool if God existed and we would have a book with all the answers.
What's the Buddhist bible, Shinto bible or Confucian bible?

>>133333677
ON THE FIRST DAY GOD CREATED THE NAP AND SAW THAT IT WAS GOOD

>>133333677
>tfw that nig lucifer had to break the NAP
hippity hoppity fuck out of the garden of eden it's human property

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>>133332851
nice proof
>it's true because the bible says it's true

>>133334455
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/125637346/#125637346

>>133334455
>he thinks christlarpers are christians
Jesus you are more reddit than them

>>133332851
How can he separate light and darkness if there was no stars untill step 2

>>133335232
Probably similar to this

Revelation 21:23
And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

>>133335232
Also if you think he made the stars the second day you really should get your eyes checked

>>133335510
More like Silent Hill 21:23

>the glory of God did lighten it
Sounds creepy as fuck.

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>>133332851
>Ummm no sweetie he did
God damnit, you got me. How can I ever respond to that?

>>133335742
>didn't read the thread
fick iff this thread has less than 20 replies
see >>133334708

>>133335510
So god itself is the light and what's not god is the dark
There's many questions here
What's the dark the antigod?
If he already was the light what's the point of saying that he separated the light from the dark in step one?
It's redundant like saying on day one i separated myself from the dark well if we agreed that god is only light then you can imply that god was born the moment he separated himself from the dark so he wasn't an always existing being and perhaps not an all powerful being outside our universe

>>133335570
I don't know that's what op image says

>>133335998
>>133334708
There is literally ZERO proof of god in any of those videos

>>133332851
I guess you wont be needing any vaccines then!

>>133336231
It says "the glory of God" and it may not be the exact same. I see it as there wasn't any single light source just everything was light.

>i dont know thats what ops image says
You see the one right from the first one? Now look at the big nimber at the top right.

>>133336413
>supernatural event that is exactly like the Bible says and only explanation is God
>not proof

>>133332851
>He

Sorry but that ain't right.

>>133336526
So infinite light?
>>133336618
So what you're saying is, once upon a time, there was water on this land. The bible said there was water on this land once.

You realise that Earth is 70% water right? Pretty hard to avoid.

>>133336821
>Earth is 70% water
>Earths' surface*

>>133332851
7th day is the Holy Sabbath that GOD rested on, Saturday. 4th commandment starts: Remember the Sabbath Day and to keep it Holy.

REMEMBER! The pedo catholics is the scarlet women who rides the beast who drinks from the cup of babylon!

Emperor Augustus made SUNday the state day of worship when he made Christianity a state religion. He did this to make it easier for the PAGANS as they worshiped the SUN on SUNday....

>>133336821
>So what you're saying is, once upon a time, there was water on this land. The bible said there was water on this land once
you clearly didn't click the thread

>anti-theists will try to debunk this

>>133336526
Right my mistake, well i was giving creationism a chance it made sense create stars after the light and dark thing but now it just got to stupid i mean come on, how could earth exist with liquid water and vegetation without a start or stars if there was no star earth would be nothing but a small meteorite with no life

>>133335070
>implying it's not heretical to deny the fact in the OPs picture

>>133337103
Because god willed it to happen, obviously
>>133336996
No, you created this thread to start an argument, yet you're too lazy to argue the points yourself

>>133337103
Pretty sure life can survive one day without light. And again he created light before plants.

Genesis 1King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

>>133334025
>tfw you realise that Adam and Eve was cast from Eden for wanting the top 1% fruits and being socialists

>>133337269
>says no proof of God
>tell him to look at this thread with proof
>doesn't look at thread
fuck off

>>133337367
Where is the proof? I've looked in the thread and can't find it anywhere.

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Stars and planets are lights on the firmament not objects in outer space. The universe isnt real.

Genesis 1:14-15
14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

A Star Close Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tgxTCDjvBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ukxGhX0w0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afjcaJpMWyc

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>>133337483
>didnt watch the videos ir see pic related

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>>133336821
The Bible states the Earth was founded on the water. Then the fountains of the great deep broke up, that's where all the water came from. The parts where it broke are called fault lines. Look up the Hydroplate theory.

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>>133335070
>beliving christfags aren't actually christians so you can still come here without feeling uncomfortable
>creating your own special world in your mind like common leftist filth

>>133337512
fuck off. Explain this then
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gRCWjJPUXyE

>>133332851
>Quotes the bible and not some other scripture.

I am born Christian. Therefore the Christian god created earth.

CHRISTIAN LOGIC

>>133335742
The irony is that atheists are the one's scared of death. If God exists, there are consequences, so you just deny He exists all together.

>>133337556
>a face on a piece of cloth
>proof that god exists
Holy shit (pun intended), you are retarded.

>>133337695
Genetic fallacy. And people aren't born Christian, faggot.

>>133337695
>people can't convert

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>>133337624
Astronomical events happen faster then you might think. Pic related

>>133337741
and again you didnt read it

>>133333333

>>133337697
that isn't necessarily true. I had a professor who was an atheist and obsessed with death, always giving memento mori's. do know there are "believers" who are terrified to die

>>133337299
im not religious but I've heard that in Catholicism they claim that it wasn't literal days but some indeterminate amount of time, the reason its written as days is to give you an idea proportionally how long everything took

>>133337807
I'm not going to waste my time reading about a cloth with a face on it that doesn't prove anything in the first place

>>133338022
>"god isnt real"
>gets shown proof
>"haha im not even going to look at it"

>>133337807
What is the significance with the face? That any old fart could've made? Does it cure cancer?>>133338151
Lol there is no fucking proof there. The guy carbon dates a rag, well good on him.

>>133337941
It could have been literal days or it could be phenomenal language for billions of years. It doesn't matter either way. If God exists, He could have created everything in literal days, or made the big bang like hitting a cue ball and sinking a trillion trillion pool balls all at the same time, analogous to evolution, which is naturally impossible.

>>133337941
Well the Bible says 6 days. There is a part in the Bible that says 1000 years is as one day to God but even with that it doesn't add up to scientific theories

>>133337299
Isn't about surviving without light life wouldn't begin to exist
1. Well
2. Without form and void, i guess means not atmosphere,
"Waters" the only way water can exist without atmosphere is in form of ice
3/4. Well so he created stars? This is unlikely if he created a star for earth to rotate, earth would experience radiation and a gravitational force field so strong it would tear it apart and would prevent life from existing
5. That's just language step 5 is pointless

>>133338266
You realize it's God and he can make the earth not get completely fucked up right? I don't believe in global warming but if it were to happen he could stop it.

>>133338255
I don't know for sure if this is true, but I saw on the history channel once that a lot of the numbers in the bible got lost in translation, for example 40 days and 40 nights may not have been literally 40 days and nights because the hebrew word for 40 is also the word they use to basically say "a shit ton" or something like that

>>133338380
You realise god can do what ever the fuck he wants in a fairy tail story, it's up to you to if you choose to believe it.

>>133337748
IIRC people are born muslim, that's why confessing your faith in Allah is called 'returning to Islam' not 'converting'.

People that don’t believe in God are worse than science-deniers and most likely have an IQ under 70

>>133338493
Oh know, they got to Finland too? RIP

>>133338529
Butthurt is a powerful cognitive bias that affects people of all IQs.

>>133338380
Lol global warming without atmosphere the radiation from the sun would destroy everything that touches, global warming implies that there's an atmosphere

>>133337697
>atheists are the one's scared of death
>implying they're not just accepting the fact that their consciousness will fade to nothing

>>133332851
>god is ancap
Checkmate nazi faggoys

>>133338666
>Implying that the better alternative is to then accept Christianity and not other religions.
>No justification on why Christianity and not anything else.

>>133337697
You'd be scared too if you knew there was nothing after life, and that all of your precious preaching and praying was a fucking waste of time.
>how the hell did I fall for the biggest meme of all time?

>>133338394
God promised to preserve his word so i believe it is. But even if the numbers did get nessed up it doesnt matter much.

>>133337697
If God exists he's not the Christian god.

Why? Because the Bible is made-up. A god decribed by a made-up scripture is definitely not the true god.

>>133338810
>implying the implication that I implied that the implication therein that dead kike on a stick: the book is good

>>133338621
I meant global warming today

>>133337697
>Scared of death
>Therefore chooses to believe in an obviously made-up religion that is purposely further modified and influenced through the ages to alleviate said fear of death.

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>>133332851

>>133338906
>God probably exists but not the God of the Bible

>>133337697
Well religion acts like alcohol
While alcohol numbs your physical pain and perception
Religion numbs your brain and logical thinking this prevents you from questioning your own very existence because you believe that you already have the answer,
An atheist is aware of this so without religion he finds himself asking alot of questions about life and the meaning of everything that's the reason why atheists are obsessed with death

>>133339004
Written by man but said by the holy spririt

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>>133338906
What part of the Bible do you believe is made up?

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>>133339103
>said by the holy spririt
According to the man who wrote the book in the first place

>>133332851
If God is all powerful, why does he need to rest?

>>133339107
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errors

Knock yourself out. Go debunk every single one of them for your glorious Jesus.

>>133339211
symbolize the sabath day

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>>133338845
>>133339003
Why do you think you have knowledge of God's non-existence? I'm convinced that God's existence is so obvious, that all atheists are lying, and that people like you are just sad and butthurt.
Here's a simple syllogism:

1. If God doesn't exists, nothing actually, objectively matters.
2. Things actually, objectively matter.
3. Therefore, God exists. (modus tollens from 2)

If you reject premise 2, then you accept butthurt Nietzsche-tier nihilism, and therefore make all of your opinions self-refuting, as they don't matter.

>>133338906
False dichotomy. You are implying that because the scripture was written by 40 different people over about 1,500 years, that it could not have been inspired by God. Try supporting that claim.
>>133339087
If this were true of all atheists, they'd all become Christians.

>>133332851
How is God real when he was invented by Greek irl shitposter?

>>133339244
>the pi one
it doesn't say in the Bible "pi = 3" you retard there could have been gaps between the bricks.

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>clouds go behind the sun

that just about throws the towel in for atheism

the only argument they have left is "theres no proof for god" w-wait a minute

this cloud goes behind the sun and the moon...

theyre robots theyre just repeating the wordd "bronze age" that they heard from a new atheist

>>133338151
Accepting for a moment that the shroud of Turin does carry the imprint of a 1st century carpenter, how does the biblical God follow from that?

>>133339244
>>133339244
Those stupid fucking atheists purposely ignore the possibility of phenomenal language solely so they can whine about the bible while pretending they're saying anything relevant or reasonable. It's child-tier reasoning.

>>133339421
Where's the body then?

>>133332851
but the moon wasnt created by god and neiter are most starts they form from huge collapsing gasses that remain or from gasses of supernova material.

>>133339303

You forgot step 4

4) Automatically assume then the God is the Christian God and not the Hindu Gods, Pagan Gods, Allah, Yahweh, FSM, Aliens, etc.

CHRISTIAN LOGIC

>>133339421
Where's the body then?

also the wounds you can see on it are the exact same as described in the Buble

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>>133339421
because you cant make a negative image naturally

this is a supernatural imprint that only people in modern times are capable of seeing

>>133339107
I wrote a book. In the first part I wrote that one character said "I had a vision that the murderer had red hair", then in the big reveal at the end it turned out the murderer had red hair.

I am a prophet, where's my congregation and tax-free donations?

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>>133339516

>>133339424
>IMMA JUST NOT ATTEMPT TO DEBUNK WHAT HAS BEEN POSTED AND JUST SAY THEY ARE RETARDED HURR DURR

So classy anon. Ad hominem.

You can't debunk the scientific fallacies in the Bible that obviously shows how the Bible is made up.

>>133339516
>Automatically assume its the Christian God and not Yehweh
you really are a retard

>>133332851
why do christians believe in going to heaven when clearly adam and eve were created to live forever on the earth?

>>133339580
When you refuse to explain why the God is the Christian god and not the god of other religions if he exists. Keep the ad hominems coming dearie.

>>133339554
>thinking the Bible was written by one person
>thinking there isn't proof of Jesus outside of the Bible
see >>133339179

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>>133335232
>Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if you have understanding. (Job 38:4)

The Book of Genesis was spoken by God to Moses on Mt. Sinai when he was up there for 40 days. Creation did happen. We don't know exactly how, but this is the way God spoke in the Bible so we just have to take Him for His Word.

Anyways, I don't let this part be a stumbling block in my faith and I do admit this isn't entirely clear to me either given our limited understanding of this reality we live in. At the end of the day, you will have to make a decision. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

For many are called, but few are chosen. (Matthew 22:14)

>>133339631
I automatically assume it's the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

There is a scripture for FSM - therefore God is FSM.

>>133339604
see >>133339397 then hang yourself

>>133339774
>ATTEMPTS to debunk one
>implies debunk everything.

>>133339711
How about you respond to the arguement instead of making new ones?

>>133339489
>>133339535
How God follow from a 2000 year old body being absent?

>>133339535
How does God follow from coincidence? A striking coincidence, granted, but a coincidence nonetheless.

>>133339547
It's clearly visible even before the scan. And even granted that this is the case, how does God follow from this?

Also, if anything, the fedora is God fucking with you tipping all the way to Dawkins' house.

>>133339712
And again, how does God follow from the existance of a jewish carpenter? Even if I grant you every single one of the non-biblical sources, at best you get that a preacher named Jesus lived. Nothing else.

And whenever I say "God", I am referring to the christian God specifically, not one of the myriad of other possible ones, which also don't follow from any of your statements.

>>133339303
Nietzsche actually believe things do start to matter when you realize they dont matter and then again they dont matter like a non ending circle
I personally think they dont matter at all that implies your opinions too and we're discussing this only for the fun of it but nothing objectively really matters

"if it where true all atheist would become Christians"
Well that's stupid, is like having a cancerous painful tumor take tons of drugs and imply that the tumor doesn't exist because you dont feel the pain

>>133339821
How about you keep refusing to explain why God has to be the Christian god if he exists? Keep doing as you are now.

>>133332851
I was away for a couple of week please redpill me on this new 'sweetie' meme
Are we try to appeal to the l'eddit crowd now?

>>133339815
I don't have time for all of them retard and it wouldn't convert you anyways

>>133339535
Thus DaVincis putting them there. Plus, it's a "photo" of DaVinci using a camera obscura. Which is why it's dated from his time line and looks like an Italian guy instated of a middle eastern guy.

>B-but the fire it can't be carbon dated reeeee
Yeah, they have used other methods as well.

>>133339946
HURR I CANT DEBUNK THEM SO I PRETEND I DON'T HAVE TIME AND INSULT YOU INSTEAD

keep the ad hominems coming.

>>133339941
Reply to the first arguement you faggot. You can't so you just made a new one.

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>>133339942
it isnt new honneybun

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>>133339303
>Why do you think you have knowledge of God's non-existence?
Well it is pretty easy to dispute nothing. You just say it isn't there.


Here's a simple syllogism:

>1. If God doesn't exists, nothing actually, objectively matters.
It depends on your perspective, in the large scale of things (ie the universe) we don't matter and nothing else matters either. Who's to say what matters? Us?

>2. Things actually, objectively matter.
Now that's your perspective.

>3. Therefore, God exists. (modus tollens from 2)
There is no link there.

>If you reject premise 2, then you accept butthurt Nietzsche-tier nihilism, and therefore make all of your opinions self-refuting, as they don't matter.
No, in my perspective things matter, but if I look around me and open my eyes, I realise how insignificant I actually am. That doesn't mean I can't have an opinion. I see your reasoning here, but it's like saying "I'm not hungry" then "So you don't like food?"

>>133340041
or because its early in the morning and i should go to bed soon

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>>133339838
>how does god follow from this

if even one supernatural thing has ever happened it means atheism is not real

and if theres these other spiritual entities than you know theres got to be a first original being

you can call god satan if you want all you like or pick some other god and go to hell if you want but atheism can never be true

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>>133339604
It isn't an ad hominem if it's the conclusion, you fucking idiot.

I'll """debunk""" one of them for you. Considering the "pi is 3" thing. The bible does not say pi is 3. That is a flat out lie. It says
>He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rimt o rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure about it.
>It took a line of thirty cubits to measure about it.
That is an observation, not a statement of mathematics. The inference that it's being said that pi is 30 is contingent on the presupposition that 1) the measurement was accurate, and 2) that they would want to be as specific as possible rather than simply rounding to thirty like any rational human being would when recounting a story.

Every other contention there assuredly makes the same kind of error, or purposely interprets obviously phenomenal language as literal, then fallaciously concludes that they've said something meaningful.
>>133339711
I've not said a single ad hominem, you braindead subhuman. And that's an attempt at a shifting of burden of proof. If your claim is that God is not the Christian God, it is your burden to prove it. All I have to say is, if you want to find out otherwise, come to church.
>>133340136
>There is no link there.
If you're going to deny simple logical form, nothing you say is worth reading.

>>133340136
and nobody fights over religion on other planets because they have no life because God created us on earth

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Yes goy this is exactly what happened! Don't read bad """science""" books like Darwin or Gallileo. Those are bad goys..you're a good goy read ou-- this book

>>133339740
I'm not job my answer to that would have been
"Well i was nowhere because i didnt exist back then, i do not have understanding but yet i am not the one here implying he's a god, i have a short limited life compared to your life so i know less but that doesn't make you a god you are being a tyrant and the fact that you make me those questions implies that you feel threatened somehow by me or that i hurt your ego and that says alot about your nature, you're not god you're just older"

religion is just prophets for profits

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>>133340204
Hey brother, join us on /christian/ discord. Invite is in pic related. God bless!

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>>133340393
Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows Me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life.” (John 8:12b)

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>>133340411
lol i appreciate the invites

i just never used discord ever in my life

>>133340100
Once again, attempting to connect god exists = Christianity is not made up.

a big whammy of non-sequitor since you refuse to prove what comes in between, that is, proof that the god is the Christian god if he exists.

>>133340380
>jews actually following the Bible

>>133340181
>It is early in the morning
>Therefore Bible is not filled with fallacy

>>133332851
The only thing missing is Shia screaming "He will not divide us" every time God attempts to separate light from darkness, water from earth or create different species.

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>>133340496
look at the proof of the old testament stories in those videos and then learn about the prophecies of jesus in the old testament

and thats where it comes from logically

r-tard

Reminder to any Christian to make sure to use the word "whore" instead if saying "slut" or "loose"
https://m.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?q=whor

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>>133340482
Basically IRC in a web browser, you can join in as anonymous guest. I'd love to meet you. Anyways, check out our chan if you're shy for now. God bless!

>>133340204
Atheism, a-theism, the belief that there is no god(s). Nothing else follows from being an atheist, anything else an antheist accepts does not spring from his atheism alone.

"Spiritual entities" do not follow from "one supernatural thing has happened".

Lets, however, grant you "spiritual entities". That they exist does not automagically mean that they originated from one "first original being". This does not follow without the preconcieved idea of a hierarchy.

I think every single one of your statements in this post is flawed in some way. Just because you CAN jump to conclusions or make connection where none exist naturally, doesn't mean they start being there.

>>133340259
>If you're going to deny simple logical form, nothing you say is worth reading
Help me understand it then, your logic is:
>Things have meaning (to who? people? No shit)
>Therefore God exists.

That's a pretty flawed logic

>>133339303
Why does a deity somehow make things objectively matter?

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>>133340894
Then who decides what is objective or not?

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>>133340643
so youre a hindu

because who put the supernatural thing there in the shroud obviously a supernatural intelligent being

you just want to deny that jesus is the creator of it all

youre still not an atheist

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>>133340325
And we're the only ones here?

>>133341052
I'm just saying, if a deity exists things still only subjectively matter, to said deity.

>>133341052
We do.

>>133341070
please show me proof of aliens. Oh wait you can't butbyou atheists claim to be all about proof.

>>133341164
Who is "we"? You? America? Majority vote?

>>133337775
Is this another gamer from makers of slither.io?

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>>133340382
Part of believing in God is humbling yourself. Remember that God looks at the heart, not on the outside. Jesus said we need to become like children in order to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. I know there's a lot of questions, I have a lot of questions too. No Christian has really uncovered all the mysteries regarding the Book of Revelation and other parts of the Bible, but over time those become clearer. You just need to trust in God. If it really bothers you, then go read Genesis chapter 1 in Hebrew and notice how God uses different Hebrew words for light. There have been many times in mankind's history where Man thought the Holy Bible was in error, just to have been proved wrong. God is Perfect. And the only answer that really matters in this short life God has given us is that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. When are you going to decide to follow Him?

>For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. (John 3:17) https://youtu.be/hgM-4HYyHag

>>133341133
You are right but you can't imply you already know everything that there is to know about a deity maybe a deity would show you something that objectively does matter so far between the things we know there's nothing like that but yet again we don't know everything

>>133341404
Yea. I see nothing there to argue with.

>>133341057
Not that my beliefs have any bearing on the chain of logic in your arguments, but I'm a deist that believes in select christian concepts, Jesus being more than simply a man among them.

>because who put the supernatural thing there in the shroud obviously a supernatural intelligent being

No, not obviously. A supernatural thing is by definition super-natural. Above the natural order of things. Nothing logically follows from this, because we have never observed anything supernatural, nor do we even know what something supernatural would look like, or if we're even capable of observing it.

Let us again grant you that this is, in fact, supernatural. I'm going to need you to prove that it was "put" in the shroud at all. Because I am very interested to see what sort of evidence you have for this supernatural event happening in observable reality in such a way that not only can you know that it was ever "put" there in the first place, but also that it was "put" there by "a supernatural intelligent being" as opposed to any other explanation. These explanations including, but not limited to:
>It was always there, never "put" anywhere
>It appeared randomly
>It has some sort of internal intelligence (being supernatural, how can we know) and went there of its own accord
>It was "put" there by some natural intelligent being far more intelligent than us, but still not supernatural in any way
>It was "put" there by some other human being who had no idea what it was, but felt like he had to "put" it somewhere

I could go on, but I feel like I have again made my point that what seems obvious to you doesn't follow logically, and has no causal or otherwise link except the ones that you force upon it.

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>>133341648
>I'm a deist that believes in select christian concepts, Jesus being more than simply a man among them.
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)

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>>133341070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbKmPrlgIPU

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>>133341180
Ok, for starters it's about probability. The LIKELIHOOD that life exists elsewhere. Out of the estimated 100,000,000,000 stars in our galaxy, how many of them have planets, and how many of them have planets that are habitable, then how many of them actually form life. Multiply that number by 2,000,000,000,000 (estimated number of galaxies in the universe.)

The question is not whether life exsists elsewhere or not, the question is why haven't we found it yet?

Because we've landed on one planet. One out of quintillions.

>>133341252
People.

>>133332851
Give us one, solid, concrete fact, besides "he's god", that he actually made the world.

>>133332851
>Omnipotent
>Needed rest

>>133332851
How could he count days, if he created Sun only at four day?

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>>133341648
see now the unbeliever has to abandon logic and say stupid shit like the shroud has its own intelligence

sure if you abandon logic and reality you can say that nobody exists its only you and your perception and nobody else is real and you are god

you can say that if you want and i cant do anything to stop you but youre being retarded and insane

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>>133341859
This is what that Hubble XDF found by the way

>>133341859
>no proof
It's funny you say religious people are dumb for having faith on stuff that had zero proof yet that's what you do

>>133341884
>didn't answer it
No shot I lnew you meant people but what people? And actually look at the difinition of it to.

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>>133341978
You weren't there, and neither we were. Who really knows? It's all really a matter of faith, is it not?

>Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if you have understanding. (Job 38:4)

>>133341966
>doesn't realize it symbolizes the sabath day

>>133341978
If the sun were to disappear would time stop?

>>133332851
>Omnipotent
>Took 6 days to create the universe when he could have snapped his fingers

>Separated light from darkness
>Then created the universes light sources

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>>133332851
ya know, that actually makes a lot of sense if you look at it in terms of modern english.

God created existence and non-existence, brought the laws of physics into play.

brought in matter, which formed celestial bodies.

The terrain and elements of these bodies settles and creates seas, clouds etc ala earth vs say venus or something.

Primordial soup arises from these settled systems that have had long enough to cook and absorb solar radiation into their system to sustain a carbon capture, carbon release cycle.

God resting is symbolism for nature being nature and everything just chugging along like it has for millions of years with no major fuck ups aside from a couple space rocks impacting our rock.

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>>133342176
If you read it in the original Hebrew text, you'll notice God uses different Hebrew words for "light." Anyways, none of us were there so who really knows but God?

>Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if you have understanding. (Job 38:4)

>>133341966
You assume God had to rest, in reality, he chose to rest.

>>133342176
If he is omnipotent he could also create it in 6 days

>light then sun
New earth doesn't need a sun either

Revelation 21:23
And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

>>133341722
I firmly believe that God does not require the Bible to work in peoples' lives. I've seen it myself.

>>133341993
There's no need to twist my words. I did not say that "the shroud" has its own intelligence.

I said that whatever supernatural that acted upon, within or with the shroud might have, and it might not. I don't know, and neither do you. We can't know because we've already both granted and accepted that this whatever is supernatural, and we can therefore by definition not know what sort of properties it has.

Regardless of whatever properties this "supernatural something" may or may not have, my point is that your conclusions don't follow from its existance.

As for abandoning logic, I was working under the assumption we were trying not to. We abandoned natural reality the second we accepted that something supernatural had taken place, however, and thus we're in the same boat.

Unless you want to go back and redefine the whatever to not be supernatural, but then you're going to have to start proving your statements. I was merely examining how your conclusions never followed from your premises.

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>>133342292
>Primordial soup arises from these settled systems that have had long enough to cook and absorb solar radiation into their system to sustain a carbon capture, carbon release cycle.

No, God created all life. All life on this Earth is recent (6,000-12,000 years) but the Earth and Universe may be much older, look into Gap Theory:

And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. (Genesis 1:25)

>>133342036
Again, it's about probability. And that probability is very high, based on math if you know what that is.

God doesn't even have mathematics to back him up, if he did, maybe I'd believe.

>>133342083
You, me, PEOPLE decide what is significant.

>>133332851
The only thing I took away from your nice illustration, is that you must be part of the vegetation...

>>133337586
Buy a telescope not a video camera you stupid wog

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>>133342407
>I firmly believe that God does not require the Bible to work in peoples' lives. I've seen it myself.
You firmly believe anything you want, isn't that what everybody else does these days? Including Atheists? Jesus told me that I need to read the Bible cover-to-cover in the Spirit. Read the Book of John. Who's right? What is Truth?

>For false christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

>>133342444
And again 0(zero) proof. And people will say there is almost 100% certainty of there being a hod but you call them dumb fir not having proof.

If all people make it then it's subjective not objective. We don't all agree.

>>133342160
Well, you know, 24h days are only at Earth, on other planets days can be shorter or longer.

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>>133332851
>Day 4
>Creates the Sun


How can he tell then 4 days have passed?


Fucking religious cucks, science is the answer not what sabd-niggers written over 3000 years ago

>>133334455
Those digits

>>133342647
and 96 hours passed before he made it

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>>133342666
>666
>doesn't read the thread
>doesn't read the Bible in the Spirit

>>133342666
see >>133342160
>>133342731

>>133333677
>when you're all knowing, all powerful, and omnibenevolent and you create something to serve you but it somehow successfully rebels against you and also turns evil, violating the NAP so you create an entire world and fill it with sapient beings, flood it and destroy everything, remake everything again, then turn into one of those things except it's your son but also yourself and you impregnated a woman but she's a virgin and you get nailed to a cross and pray to yourself for salvation and just in the nick of time you manage to defeat death which you created and save the humans you created from the evil you created through the power of yourself and bring them into your eternal light but only if they cut off the tip of their penis in a specific way

>>133332851
yeah fucking hell mate

stars and the moon aren't equal
the sky is an optical illusion
we know life was created by protein juice
And how the fuck do you separate the sea and land?It's like separating a swimming pool and the water in it.

lel praise kek

>>133342369
>Omniscient
>Timewaster

>>133342602
What I'm getting from you is that you worship a book, and don't trust in God to guide you. Which seems awfully reductionist to me. If God can inspire a book, why can't he do the same to people?

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>>133332851
>>133334020
According to Buddhism, the world was created by nature, not by a god. The Earth and stars spontaneously formed on its own.
Also, speculating about the details of creation is a pointless endeavor. The Buddha did not waste His time on this issue, since it is not necessary for living a righteous way of life and for shaping our future life.
However, if one insists on studying this subject, then one must investigate the sciences, astronomy, geology, biology and anthropology.

>>133342636
Well I'm not claiming life exsists elsewhere, I'm making a calculation to say that life SHOULD exsists elsewhere. Unlike you claiming that god does exsists with no basis.

https://youtu.be/sNhhvQGsMEc

>If all people make it then it's subjective not objective. We don't all agree.
Exactly, because it's only your individual opinion that matters. It's relative to your frame of reference and everyone has their own individual reference frame.

In other words, see what you want to see, believe what you want to believe, but don't let other people do the the thinking for you.

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>>133342857
>>133342862
>>133342889
Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” (Luke 23:34a)

>>133342857
>hasnt read the Bible(or atleast didnt understand it)
>doesnt understand the trinity
>doesnt realize cutting your foreskin off moakes you 0% more likely to be saved

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>>133342957
>In other words, see what you want to see, believe what you want to believe, but don't let other people do the the thinking for you.
I absolutely agree, so come take a look at this https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDugrMDam0XlJctFD6rjBPA

>>133333677
ON THE FIRST DAY GOD VIOLATED THE NAP

>>133337697
Well of course theyre more scared

they know the truth

>>133342957
And again no proof

And know your talking about it being subjective

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>>133342890
I first believed in Jesus Christ and truly sought Him. He told me to read the Bible cover-to-cover. There are ways that God speaks to us. Primarily it is by reading His Word, but there are also other ways. In this world, there are two spirits: The Spirit of Christ, and the Spirit of Antichrist. Which Spirit are you following? And again, what is Truth?

>God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and truth. (John 4:24)

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>>133340380
>Ignoring that the bible pins Jews as the synagogue of Satan

>>133332851

the earth is 6000 years old right retard?

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>>133342407
a supernatural intelligent entity capable of doing that

pic related is another example you can find predictions of things before they even happen all over the place

every illuminati card from the card game for example has never been wrong

impossible in a purely natural world of atheism

so you have to accept the existence of the spiritual realm

and then from there its obvious god created it all and if you dont want to accept that then go ahead and become a magician and contact the demon spirits and do what people used to do

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>>133342444
This video has a lot of math from the bible you might find interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_2T47PAIkM
>>133339244
He even addresses the PI question at 51:48.
As for the NIV problems however, I can't defend the NIV. It changes way to much, pic related.

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>>133343311
>the earth is 6000 years old right retard?
No, all life on this Earth is recent 6,000-12,000 years old. The Earth and the Universe may be much older. Look up Gap Theory.

>In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the water. (Genesis 1:1-2)

>>133343147
>And again no proof
I'm not claiming something exsists with no proof, you are.

>And know your talking about it being subjective
Then we are completely irrelevant and meaningless.

>>133343300
Rev 2:9 3:9

>>133343333
>we cannot ever advance as a species until we eradicate your kind

it hurts

>>133332851
praise God !

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>>133343311
yep
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ezXcxbfr76k

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>>133343421
for in 6 days god created the earth

(and the billions of years before that when god just let the earth sit there without anything happening for no reason)

>>133338666

>Implying there is no faith worse then death ,satan?

>>133343421
>Look up Gap Theory.
Why even make up theories about creation? Only proddie scum does this.

The rest of Christendom is fine with billion year old Universe etc etc AND Genesis.

>>133343458
>I'm not claiming something exsists with no proof, you are.
There is more proof of God(https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/125637346/#125637346) than aleins(zero) yet you say aliens are real

>>133343181
Ok, let me just quote my previous post.
>If God can inspire a book, why can't he do the same to people?
And the only part of your post that seems to answer this is.
>In this world, there are two spirits: The Spirit of Christ, and the Spirit of Antichrist.

Now this isn't actually an answer, and for anyone who hasn't ever looked into what you're talking about it's actually closer to "religious gibberish" than anything else. But you're LUCKY I happen to know what you mean by "Spirit of Antichrist".

Now what you're saying is that God is all-powerful, but not powerful enough to make his message so crystal-clear that noone can misunderstand, or be decieved?

And before you go to "free will", no, that doesn't factor into it. The message can be clear as glass and anyone can still chose to not believe.

So God is either incapable or unwilling to be clear, is that what I'm supposed to get here?

>>133343333
Yes, a supernatural intelligent entity would be capable of doing doing that, but is not required, nor does it logically follow. Again, what information do you sit on that shows this supernatural force neccesitates a supernatural intelligent entity? I would be very interested to see this evidence, because it would literally be Nobel Prize-worthy.

As for the signs, predictions, prophecies and the "illuminati card" things. These are not as you claim "impossible in a purely natural world of atheism". Even though it would at some point become stupidly improbable, every single instance can be aduquately explained by faulty memory, vagueries, coincidence or post-hoc rationalizations.

And even IF someone was prophetic, provably so, the "existance of the spiritual realm" does not follow from it. Because you can not know the mechanics behind whatever makes that person prophetic. You can GUESS, or you can CLAIM, but you can not know.

AND EVEN IF we grant you a spiritual realm, God again does not follow. God doesn't follow from any single claim you have laid out

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>>133343728
Scripture points to a pre-Adamic race. We really don't know, hence Gap Theory. Jesus says in the Bible that He saw Lucifer fall like lightning from Heaven. When did this happen in the Creation event? And why was it in verse 2 that the Earth was void and a dark wasteland, why wasn't it already created?

This is why some people speculate there was a period of time dinosaurs roamed the Earth and was destroyed. We don't know what cosmic battle occurred. Again, this is just my opinion and the Gap Theory is just a theory (just like evolution). God Bless.

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>>133332851
>Create vegetation before creating the sun

>>133343458
>Then we are completely irrelevant and meaningless.

so not objective

>>133343877
>only proddie scum does this
Cuckolicks and orthofags usually don't even believe in creationism heretic(and not many people believe gap theory)

>>133342857
Oh, it's almost as of Christianity supports a God that allows for you to have choices as opposed to making everyone sheeple.

>>133343983
>>133343983
>>133343983
>>133343983
>>133343983

THIS

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>>133343909
>So God is either incapable or unwilling to be clear, is that what I'm supposed to get here?
God's Word is straight, direct, and to the point. Satan is the author of confusion. Jesus Christ clearly said that He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. You need to get in the Spirit and Seek God (Jehovah, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit). Repent of your sins. Read the Bible cover-to-cover in the Spirit. Pray, pray, and pray. Seek and you will find.

>Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you remain in My word, then you are truly My disciples. You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.” (John 8:31-32)

>>133343897
I'll read your thread if you watch my video here
>>133342957

>yet you say aliens are real
No, I say the probability of life on other planets is high (because of the number of planets)

>>133343983
>can't read he created light first
muslim education

>>133332851

HAHAHAHAH
"OH MAGICAL SANDNIGGER IN SPACE, THE GOD THAT DOES NOT BELONG TO ME"

Fucking christfaggots, unless you are a muhummud, christianity is NOT your religion. Kill yourself.

>>133343984
>so not objective
Why? Because it doesn't meet your subjective views?

You see the problem here? It's a circular argument

>>133332851
>omnipotent all powerful being
>needs rest after 6 days of work
God is a fucking faggot. Almost gibsmedat tier.

>>133344086
I see, so God is perfectly clear and unambigous, but you personally can't speak in anything other than vagueries and pre-selected pieces of a pamphlet you got from somewhere. Makes sense.

>>133344066
>>133343983
And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

The pic is wrong.

>>133344208
You know, you're ok Mr Frenchman

>>133344174
so then bothing is objective. that was the fucking arguement

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>>133343909
its intelligent because it can do intelligent things like put an image on the shroud or predict the future

call it whatever you want but that thing is smarter than you

and no theyre not going to publicly document this stuff because the control system is run by the people hiding truth from you on purpose thats what the bible talks about the devil deceives the whole world

>>133343911
no adam was the first man this is a total heresy

> When did this happen in the Creation event?

probably like millions of years before the earth was made

>And why was it in verse 2 that the Earth was void and a dark wasteland

because thats just how it looked before he put anything on it yet lmao what are you saying

>there was a period of time dinosaurs roamed the Earth

god created dinosaurs with adam and eve and then mankind hunted them to extinction

all within the 6000 years

>>133344241
no it isnt. Are you reading it left to right or up a d down?

>>133335070
Fact: if you believe in creationism and any abrahamic deity you are a fucking moron

>>133344274
>that was the fucking arguement
Exactly, a circular one. Because your "Objective" views are subjective to me and vice versa.

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>>133344222
I'm here to testify for Jesus Christ, and to tell you that you need to Seek God and read His Word. These aren't just words I'm typing out and they are meaningless if you don't act upon them. But you are stiffnecked, you have your own way, your heart is hardened. Did God not allow Pharaoh's heart be hardened?

>Whoever hears these sayings of Mine and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on a rock. (Matthew 7:24)

>>133344338
>still believing shroud of turin shit

holy shit

>>133344378
fact: if you believe in evolution or not any abrhamic diety you are a moron

>>133344420
It's not circular
if God doesn't ecist then nothing is objective. that was the arguement

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>>133344338
Again, what I said was theory so we really don't know. God Bless.

>Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if you have understanding. (Job 38:4)

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>>133344460

>>133344451
see >>133337556

>>133344539
>thonking that was my arguement

>>133332851
Fake news.

>>133344338
Yes, a hypothetical being can put an image on a shroud. Now you just need to show that the image on the shroud requires this being and can not appear on the shroud in any other way. You're not even halfway to your conclusion at this point.

And again, yes, a hypothetical supernatural OMNISCIENT being like God would, by definition, be smarter than me. A tautology, perhaps, but a correct one.

The fact that there is no evidence is the strongest evidence for the conspiracy, if I understand you correctly?

>>133344427
Ok, I'll be very clear, and you can chose to answer clearly or I will ignore you.

A: Does God REQUIRE the Bible for belief?
B: Can you worship God without the Bible?

>>133344522
No, the objectiveness is that we are meaningless, not nothing is objective.

As soon as you bring god into it, it involves opinion and belief, making it subjective

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>>133344655
TRUNEWS

https://www.spreaker.com/user/trunews/trunews-07-11-17

>>133344595
I think it says Jesus is eternal and is older than the earth and the earth exists in verse 2 and the light created in verse 3

1 Peter 1:19-20
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

>>133344709
>objectiveness is that we are meaningless
besides we arent

>>133332851
>all powerful creator deity
>took him 7 days to make this half ass excuse for a planet
>mfw

>>133344810
Making the argument CIRCULAR as I said before.
Retard.

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>>133344536
sorry i didnt know it was you i wouldnt have talked so rudely

but nah its not true

just accept young earth creation literal 6 days

stop believing the worlds invention of evolution and other old earth nonsense

btw the world is flat
so....

>>133344667
prove jesus isnt a hologram when hes flying in the clouds right in front of you

or prove someone didnt sneak you some hallucinogenic drugs to see that

see you cant truly prove anything to anyone

>all knowing, all powerful
>still need to take a rest
Isnt that just lazyness?

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>>133344667
You're not approaching this from the right direction, and you're looking for excuses to justify your beliefs. And you still haven't answered my first question: What is Truth?

Anyways, it looks like we're going to go nowhere with this. You've been told what God wanted you to hear. Your blood is now in your own hands.

>But then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you. Depart from Me, you who practice evil.’ (Matthew 7:23)

>>133332851
>sun and stars are considered separate
>fish and birds existed before plant life which is the start of every food chain
>no mention of when amphibians were made with sea creatures or land creatures

>>133344851
and agian it isnt circular

>>133332851
>He
Are you assuming god gender?

> It created stars (only sources of light) AFTER it separated light and darkness

Hahahahaha

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>>133344867
Earth is not flat my friend. Please join the /christian/ discord so I don't have to do this in public. Anyways, God looks at your heart so stay strong my brother. God Bless.

http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/01/flat-earth-theory-demonstrates-the-alarming-gullibility-of-people-everywhere/

>>133345034
Revelation 21:23
And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

>>133345106
see >>133345150

>>133344867
I have no idea which part of my reply the Jesus hologram thing is coming from, so I'm just going to say this:

If I see Jesus flying in the clouds right in front of me, I would be very surprised. Once I've recovered from the shock, I can assure you that there are several explanations I can think of, and all of the probable ones do not include supernatural means. I have no idea why you single out "hologram" and "hallucinogens", but I can add to those "I saw something I mistook for Jesus", "My eyes or my mind played tricks on me" or "I went insane at some point and didn't notice" to name a few.

Now which one of these is the correct one, I have no clue, and unless I can find some way to test any of them I cannot rightly prove any of them. That doesn't mean that "Jesus was actually in the clouds in front of me" logically follows as the most likely explanation.

Now if you would kindly tell me what your point was, that would be helpful. If you're not just going to be like this guy:

>>133344921
Not going to give an answer, gotcha.

>249 replies and 64 images omitted.
>67 posts by this ID
Yeah, still gonna go ahead and report this shitty thread.

>>133343021
>thinks you need to understand something to make a meme out of it

>>133345004
So what you're saying is the objective view on life (without opinion emotion or belief) is because of God's reason for life (making it subjective, based on opinion emotion AND belief).

Therefore there is no objective view on life exsisting (because my view is also subjective).

And if objectiveness doesn't exsists, god doesn't exsist. Right?

>>133345314
atleast im not a "1 post by ths ID" fag

>>133345399
it isnt politically correct at all
https://m.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?q=whor

>>133345402
if God doesnt exist then nothing is objective. If he does then there are objective things

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>>133345194
see you would deny jesus if he was right in front of you because you would rather claim your own brain to be dysfunctional and think youre schizophrenic than accept a fact and a truth staring you in the face

thats just going into the territory of openly denying facts

which is dishonest so there you go , you have a false religion and youre not open about changing

>>133345560
But God is based on opinion, therefore nothing involving God is subjective

>>133345623
*everything

>>133345623
but if God is real then it isnt subjective

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>>133344602
>Implying there was an argument in the first place

>>133345600

I am going to laugh hard in heaven after the second comming when the atheist explain it as hallucinate swamp gas

>>133345805
Maybe, if God is real.
Science is based on fact, measurements, open mindedness.
Doesn't that make science the only true objectiveness?

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>>133345474
Brother, join us on /christian/ discord. Invite is in pic related. God Bless.

>For where two or three are assembled in My name, there I am in their midst. (Matthew 18:20)

>>133345895
But you can't laugh when you're dead

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>>133337697
Why would you want to follow a god that will send you to an eternal lake of fire if you don't happen to pick up religion in your life?
80 years or so on earth earns you eternal suffering, fool logic bro

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>>133346030
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. (John 3:16)

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>>133345895
>I am going to laugh hard in heaven after the second comming when the atheist explain it as hallucinate swamp gas
Actually, there may be some like that, thinking it's all a dream but they won't be able to awake since it's real.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/q4-vKIfAhsQ?start=630&end=1231

>>133345600
No, I would equally doubt my best friend "flying in the clouds right in front of me", because people don't fly in clouds. It being Jesus doesn't actually factor into my decision to deny my sensory input on this one.

I don't know what exciting part of the U.S. you live in, but where I am, people don't fly around in clouds. But kudos on framing the question in such a way that you can completely disregard anything I might say about the reasoning and extract that silly little nugget for your own edification.

The snake from the garden of Eden taught you christians well. But I don't suppose God punishes dishonesty at all.

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>>133346559
well jesus isnt gonna appear any other way than a bright glowing flying being so theres no other way to see him hes not going to be a human again

>>133346030
>send you to an eternal lake of fire

He does not send you, hell is default , eternal life in heaven with him is a gift

>>133337512
>>133337512
>take pictures of distant objects through tiny lens
>Hit diffraction limit
>Get strange images
>OH LOOK THEY"RE NOT STARS THEY"RE JEWELS OR LIQUID OR SOME SHIT

it's not funny at this point how fucking stupid these people are

>>133332851
God was ancap, now it makes sense as to why they were such efficient commie killing machines.

>>133346787
Even more reason for me not to trust my senses, because you're back into the real of the supernatural that we discussed earlier. We don't generally see "bright glowing flying beings", so the simplest solutions to seeing one is that we probably didn't.

I figured out many posts ago that arguing the logic with you is wasted, but at this point you've just switched over into prostletyzing, so we're done.

>>133346815
He sounds like a pretentious asshole

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>>133334455

>>133332851
Preach

>>133347042

Yes for people like you he made hell so other people can go to heaven

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>>133346961
you obviously didnt see the last video

>>133339179
>>133339712
Nigger do you know how many Spider Man comics there are? Does that mean he exists?

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>>133334020
>What's the Buddhist bible, Shinto bible or Confucian bible?
wrong? what exactly are you getting at here

>>133332851
>Omnipotent
>Rest

Explain

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>>133347343
More than god

>>133347343
>>133347042
Do you think God needs you to exist? Or does he gift us each day as mercy? Swallow your pride, then you'll know Him

>>133347428
Not to mention the movies, the cartoon series, the fact that we can visitn Manhattan to this day, etc.

>>133347488
Now that's what I call proof, video evidence. I even saw him once

>>133347399
God rested on the 7th day. Notice there wasnt an 8th day... he is still resting. Jesus is his only begotten son; when God looks at his people, he sees his flawless Lamb. We cannot comprehend God's holiness. Thats why we have Jesus!

>>133347488
i don't see the daily bugle anywhere

>>133347575
>Thats why we have Jesus
Not any more you don't, and you never will because (most) people aren't as retarded as they were back then.

>>133347488
>>133347527
You'll die in unbelief
Remember, we tried to warn you. You have heard the gospel, so there will be no excuse

>>133347665
>you never will
speak for yourself, edomite

>>133347698
lol ok bro, and you'll die-

>>133347656
Don't you see? The Spirit of Anti-Spiderman works in the world to keep the secret hidden from our eyes.

>>133347698
Accept Spiderman as your friendly neighborhood superhero today, and never fear muggers again!

>>133337586

I'm sure this has nothing to do with the focal length or refresh rate of that camera....

>>133347775
>most people

>>133342857
Theistic cucks cant refute that.

>>133347787
I died with Christ
>>133347790
no thanks reddit

>>133347790
Dr Octopus back at it again