Lmao, probably with time these kind of cases with appear more

>transgenders can never really achieve what they're going for
>can pass with people they're dating
/pol/ btfo

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>>133312159
>Had no idea my girlfriend was previously a male

He's still a male.

>>133312859
What exactly do you define maleness as then?

>>133312159
>there are many people who are naturally born with dual genitals and they still are able to know whether they're deep down a female or a male.
>Even people who seem like they have progressive views can react unpredictably to finding out that one is trans. I've had that happen numerous times with supposedly progressive friends. This seems pretty common. Perhaps she is the same way.

>One of my best and oldest friends, someone who is very progressive and who has been active in political action committees and such in the past, once saw fit to inform me that he "has a hard preference for natural-born vagina," in the course of a conversation during which I revealed to him that I evidently am attracted to men.

>My first reaction was to marvel at this dude's manly arrogance in presuming that just because I might find men attractive, that apparently meant I must be interested in him. Ugh, no thanks. No offense, but, no.

>My second reaction was to burst out crying, obviously. Because I'm like, okay, if this kind of a person could hold this kind of irrational view that no matter what I may look, smell, feel, act, sound, and think like, I'm still somehow "really a man," well.... What fucking hope is there for me?

>The long and complex process of getting over this included realizing the fact that this dude may well have fucked any number of post-op trans vaginas and there would be no way for him to tell without subpoenaing his former lovers' medical histories. That realization was key to helping me feel like I'm going to become as "real" as any other woman, and I'm already a real one anyways, and he and those like him who feel differently about that are just fucking objectively wrong in their views.

my god it's like having a borderline girlfriend but you don't even get to hatefuck her properly

>>133313182
That pesky Y chromo

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>>133313507
Wow, bigot. Science is sexist don't you know?

>>133313507
Actually, just the SRY. If that bad boy gets transplanted onto an X, you're a man, baby

>>133313507
Even if it can be made so that it has no discernable impact?

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>>133313330
>realizing the fact that this dude may well have fucked any number of post-op trans vaginas and there would be no way for him to tell without subpoenaing his former lovers' medical histories

The delusion is off the fucking charts.

>>133313927
How is that delusional?

How the fuck do people not immediately twig to this? Do I just have magic tranny-dar or something?

>Be me, 1994
>Old friend from college recently came out of the closet, whatevs, we've been buddies for years
>We also pranked each other a LOT
>Sets me up with this girl, Michelle
>Meet her, 5'6", dark hair, pale
>Ten seconds later, CLOCKED ... hands too big, Adam's apple, wrists too thick, sternum too broad
>Proceed to drag friend in the back and give him vicious noogies for trying to set me up with a chopjob

He really thought I wouldn't notice until it was too late.

I guess there's going to be a lot of guys in the future who will be guilted into "accepting" that their girlfriends used to be dudes.

please stop hating transgender people so much

I medically am transitioning to female, and I so wish I was born normal
I just want to be happy
surely you must be able to understand this?

>>133314185

Because their pseudo-vagina is not a vagina. You're going to notice that something is a little "off" about it. Even with the lights off, it's not going to feel right.

>>133314246
We wouldn't hate you if you didn't insist on involving us in your delusions.

You have this idea that we should play along with this fantasy that you're "really a woman" and that we in no way don't pick up on the fact that you're a dude with some surgery. You want to make us use these magic pronouns and behave like the past never happened.

If you weren't so intent on forcing us into that, you'd get less backlash.

>>133312159
>plebbit cancer

FUCK OFF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7UPqno6xvE

>>133314246

I don't hate them. I'm just naturally repulsed by them and annoyed as hell that they expect me to think of them as real women. I couldn't care less how you dress or who you have sex with, just leave me the fuck alone and we'll be fine.

>dilation

>>133313330
>The long and complex process of getting over this included realizing the fact that this dude may well have fucked any number of post-op trans vaginas and there would be no way for him to tell without subpoenaing his former lovers' medical histories. That realization was key to helping me feel like I'm going to become as "real" as any other woman, and I'm already a real one anyways, and he and those like him who feel differently about that are just fucking objectively wrong in their views.
jesus christ almighty.

>>133314246
kill yourself

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>>133312159
>As a Jew, I completely sympathize with any person who is subject to discrimination
I fucking hate kikes so much

>>133314246
KILL YOURSELF
and im not trolling you worthless faggot. your parents must fucking hate themselves

>>133315416
What about looking out for the underprivileged makes you so angry you declare hatred for an entire race?

>>133312159
If they don't disclose, it should be considered rape.

>>133315416
ben shapiro has to bring up his jewishness in every argument he makes.

>>133313182
Ye old "Y" chromosome, also the dick if their mental illness haven't chop it out yet

>>133314246
have fun dilating for the rest of your life faggot

>>133314688
I want to be called she because I look line a 'she'
I look female and you're just being rude if you know someone is trans to call them he
no one should be forced to do this but it's impolite and frankly socially stupid not to

>>133314836
what is a 'real' woman? is it just the chromosomes? the womb?

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>>133313330
>That realization was key to helping me feel like I'm going to become as "real" as any other woman, and I'm already a real one anyways, and he and those like him who feel differently about that are just fucking objectively wrong in their views.

These really are the end times. That type of thinking is satanic to the core. Its all about the self and elevating your own desires above all else

>>133314246
You are a mentally ill faggot. Chop your junk off if it makes you happy but it wont change reality.

>>133315416
honestly im just glad he doesnt procreate becuase hes too busy fucking a literal pus leaking wound

>>133313922
Yes.

>>133315902
Ugh, if there is one thing I wish I didn't learn yesterday, thanks a lot, /pol/. The gore posted doesn't phase me at all, but dilating? Fucking hell!

>>133315995
Again, not playing along with your delusion isn't rude, just like I don't address that homeless guy who thinks he's King of St. Louis as "Your Highness." He's not King of St. Louis, and you're not a woman.

And to be fair, you're kidding yourself if you think you look like one. You've been surrounded by an echo chamber of people who are all going to call you STUNNING AND BRAVE. In reality, you're getting clocked over and over again because you're a hon.

No amount of post-modern attempts to deconstruct womanhood will make you into a man. Indeed, if you did manage to abolish the idea of womanhood, you would destroyed the very thing you desired to be. You haven't occupied the territory, you've blown it up.

>>133312159
>EDIT: I am a bit shocked at the reaction from the posters below. I was not expecting to have several people be more concerned with my terminology (which isn't offensive), than the actual content within the posting. I think I'll just not bring it up to her. I completely understand why she may not have told me in the beginning, and that's fine. We don't always have to tell our partners each and every thing. Sometimes things have to be kept to ourselves. In any event, I accept her anyway. Making this posting was perhaps a mistake.
They're infighting again

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>>133315995
>just the chomosomes
>being this delusional.

>>133316535
Why? If it doesn't matter, why emphasize it?

>>133316647
Then what is it?

>>133316660
What if he wanted kids, and not some fuckhole?

How can you date a trans(((female))), and not realize it's a man? The fucked up voice, the adam's apple, the man hands, the shoulders, I can go on. It's pretty obvious.

>>133312159
He gets to rub his dick in dry dick skin, sweet! Neo pussies are the best pussies!

>>133317083
I explicitly asked about under the circumstances that it could be made irrelevant. I know it can't now but medical science is getting there fast.

>>133312159
>be beta
>date mannish looking girl
>be surprised when mannish looking girl is actually a man

Get fit, date hotties- problem solved unless you find one of the 1% of trannies who actually pass

>>133313182
>maleness must be defined now

why don't I just kill myself

>>133317187
If an archeologist dug you up a hundred years from now and looked at your skeleton, you know what they would see? The skeleton of a man. Your pelvic girdle, your sternum, all of that, still that of a man.

You were born male and will remain so until your bones become dust.

>>133317010
>>133317187
Then transmen and transwomen can go date each other. Or hey even just fuck one of the many pathetic liberals looking for brownie points, but leave normal people who don't want to fuck a girl who used to have a dick alone.

>>133317085
Willful ignorance liberal do this very well

>>133316602
believe what you want
men find me attractive
I could find sex at any bar if I was so desperate

maybe try to look at situations like this from a different perspective I don't know what else to say

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>>133313922
>Even if it can be made so that it has no discernable impact?
Stop lying to yourself

>>133317506
I'm on your side but the fact that bargoers would fuck you means nothing.

>>133317624
See >>133317187

>>133317360
>not refitting your body with the skeleton of a woman

it's really simple anon :^)

>>133313330
>and there would be no way for him to tell without subpoenaing his former lovers' medical histories
I was in that one thread yesterday.

There's plenty of fucking ways for him to tell.

>>133317085

To be fair, many tall women undereat and appear rather mannish as their shoulders bulge from their frame and hands and feet look large compared to their withered bodies. So appearing slightly masculine isn't always a red flag. With that said, you should always look at the hips. You can't hormone away wider hips.

>>133316590
Cut your head off instead of your dick, you'll eventually kill yourself anyway and you'll save yourself a lot of money and time.

>>133317693
Fine.
Vat grown bodies that are 100% biologically female that they could dump their mind into. Then I would accept trans people.

>>133317506
I think you forget the fact that a lot of guys will go to glory holes when they're hard up, knowing that there's a dude on the other side and just not giving too much of a shit.

You're getting sportfucked for freak points and a good story. "Did I ever tell you about that chopjob I fucked?" That's your life now. That's how your life with heterosexual men will be. That, avoidance, or a guy beating the crap out of you when he finds out that you deceived him.

>>133317360
There are all kinds of experimental bone setting procedures being developed now that are going to change that.

>>133317839
i know mate. it's seriously like having a crazy girlfriend

>OH WHAT SO THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW
>what are you on about
>OH YOU DON'T KNOW DO YOU
>YOU SELFISH PRICK FUCK YOU
>what
>YOU DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT MEEEE
>no it's okay seri-
>FUCK YOU ALRIGHT FUCK YOU WE'RE DONE
>well okay the-
>HOW DARE YOU
>you seriously need to calm down
>NO I'M FINE
>no you're not
>YES I AM
>but
>I'M NOT ALRIGHT FUCK YOU

up is down, black is white, and male is female

>>133317970
that's easy to fix, i'll just look for the cunt with the wavy hips

>>133317970
So delusional.

Do you really think anyone's going to flay off your entire skin, muscles, ligaments, and tendons, then tweak your skeleton to match your fantasy?!

That's science-fiction shit. Maybe in a couple of centuries. You'll notice we still don't have flying cars.

>>133318119
>it's seriously like having a crazy girlfriend
I was referring to the 3 to 4 hours a day of shoving a dildo into their wound to keep it from closing up

>>133317876
>fucking someone who used to be a man
Fucking faggot

>>133319262
correct. but what's more is that it's always obvious. i guess with plastic surgery and hormones at a VERY young age, on a guy with feminine features to begin with, i could be fooled. otherwise fuck no. the bone structure is always a dead giveaway