Jesus

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>>133300085
He was real, and yes, he was black.

>>133300260
Shill detected.

>>133300085
of course, he was joseph's wife's son, spent 13-30 in india with buddhist monks and came back to his homeland and was killed by the kikes

>>133300434
Werent the Romans based?

>>133300085
He was real. He was a Jew who realized the meta of what being a Jew, and by proxy the Old Testament, was all about.

Unlike others who are then content to feel superior in deciphering these important stories, he realized he could come up with a way to evolve it into something greater, something even more fundamental to humanity's story. A way to help the smart and the dumb find personal salvation, and by proxy their nation.

The best redpill I can give you about Jesus is that if you believe he was the Son of God, he in ever way acted like the Son of God and was worthy of the distinction. If you don't, he still brought a system of beliefs, ethics and rituals that make you a better person. You win either way with Jesus.

>>133300434
More likely he lived among the Essenes. Says Josephus:

>They neglect wedlock, but choose out other persons children, while they are pliable, and fit for learning, and esteem them to be of their kindred, and form them according to their own manners.

>>133300738
Preach it, brother.

>>133300085
see
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/125637346/#125637346
and
http://tektonics.org/jesusexisthub.php

Dude does my yard work on the regular. Course he's real.

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>>133014306
Be a Catholic

>>133300085
Yeah, but he wasn't a beta wimp like the Christians believe, he was an alpha male who was not crucified.

>>133302017
>2017

>>133300085

No. http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

>2017
>believing in santa claus and the tooth fairy
why /pol/?

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>>133300085
Christianity was made up by cool guys who had fetish to torture people, so they had this made up plan with Jesus, Bible and other shit.

>>133300085
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
And also try >>>/his/
At least, give some input next time you make a thread:
>Wxamples of off-topic and/or /b/-tier threads:
>Red pill me on X. (with no extra content or input of your own)

>>133300085

no. josephus and pliny the elder never wrote about him when he was supposedly taking the middle east by storm. retconned roman lie to split and placate the jews.

>>133300085
Jew

>>133300085
Yes. Whether or not he was God is up to your faith, but he definitely existed.

>>133300085
Yes, and he was also a muslim

>>133300519
They were
Christianity is a jewish myth made to infiltrate western society

>>133303196
Prove it

>>133303279
Prove George Washington existed

>>133300085
John Martin Allegro, a catholic priest who was one of the first to study the dead sea scrolls, claims that "jesus christ" was a actually a code for shrooms used by the Essenes, a jewish cult that was heavily influences by gnostic beliefs. They used psychedelics to become "christ-like" and in this state they understood that they were all children of god.
Very interesting stuff and it actually makes way more sense to me.

>>133303634
How is that an argument?

Here's my follow-up redpill on Jesus: don't look to fucking 4chan for knowledge on something that could legitimately change your life.

All you're going to get it "fuck off retard prove the tooth fairy is real" and either "prove he ISN'T real!" or a lengthy debate between two non-professionals citing whatever they can find on the internet. Spoilers, the debate is a debate because there is no definitive proof one way or another.

I believe He's real and He acts appropriately in my life. Others disavow him as nonsense and He acts appropriately in their life as a result as well. Go read the Bible and come up with your own conclusion, you are lucky to be in an age where you can do that freely.

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>>133303165

Why would a poor man, who was only renown was among the likewise poor be talked about by someone like pliny the elder? He was more invested in antiquity and formulating a coherent and complete set of knowledge, not on what would have been assuredly perceived as simply another prophesying man.

How many poor people are remembered throughout history? You can claim that because of the works and miracles which he performed would grant him great acclaim and fame among everyone, but this isn't the case in Jesus' life story. Faith is what he preached more than anything else.

>>133303259
cute

>>133300085

He was the first anti-globalist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so9xfDajYWY

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>>133303727

seems pretty effective to me.

>>133303753

Nice post. I wish I could find some really good books on theology, but I find it hard to get anything that I'm really looking for. I'm probably kind of an oddity though, considering I believe strongly in Buddhism as well as Christianity, as Buddhism is what proved to me that Christianity is legitimate and that Jesus Christ could actually be the messiah, of course I didn't make this decision until I read the Bible.

>>133303727
I'm just asking you a question, not trying to prove Jesus's existence.

>>133300085
Yes Jesus is real

>And without doubt great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
(1 Timothy 3:16)

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>>133303656

? Christ literally means "the anointed one" just as it did back then.

can you site the material where you are getting this from?

>>133303279
They have a shrine that holds his baby teeth in Jerusalem called Church of the Holy Sepulchre. I think it might have his foreskin too. Actual body parts from Jesus from before he died. Additionally, the Roman Historian Tacitus described his Execution by Pontius Pilate.

Again, I'm not say Jesus was God, but there was definitely a Jewish guy named Jesus who claimed to be God who lived in Judea and was executed by Crucifixtion.

Wikipedia is a decent place to start for this. I like to go to the bottom and read their sources after the actual article, personally, it gives you a bit more context.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

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Bible says racemixing is wrong pt 1
Tobit 4:12-13
>Beware of all whoredom, my son, and chiefly take a wife of the seed of thy fathers, and take not a strange woman to wife, which is not of thy father's tribe: for we are the children of the prophets, Noe, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: remember, my son, that our fathers from the beginning, even that they all married wives of their own kindred, and were blessed in their children, and their seed shall inherit the land. Now therefore, my son, love thy brethren, and despise not in thy heart thy brethren, the sons and daughters of thy people, in not taking a wife of them.

Ezra 10
>And Ezra the priest stood up, and said unto them, Ye have transgressed, and have taken strange wives, to increase the trespass of Israel. Now therefore make confession unto the Lord God of your fathers, and do his pleasure: and separate yourselves from the people of the land, and from the strange wives. Then all the congregation answered and said with a loud voice, As thou hast said, so must we do.


Nehemiah 13
>In those days also saw I Jews that had married wives of Ashdod, of Ammon, and of Moab:And their children spake half in the speech of Ashdod, and could not speak in the Jews' language, but according to the language of each people.And I contended with them, and cursed them, and smote certain of them, and plucked off their hair, and made them swear by God, saying, Ye shall not give your daughters unto their sons, nor take their daughters unto your sons, or for yourselves. Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, who was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did outlandish women cause to sin. Shall we then hearken unto you to do all this great evil, to transgress against our God in marrying strange wives?

>>133303165
Pliny the elder didn't write about Jesus (he also doesn't write much about religion period), but Pliny the younger, his nephew (and adopted son), exchanged letters with Trajan on how as a provincial governor to deal with Christians. Christians had been a problem in Rome; Nero's henchman Tigellinus had some burned alive in AD 64, supposedly in response to the fire in Rome (for which Nero tried to blame them).

>>133304168
Not as much of an oddity as you might think, I live within 5 minutes of one of the largest Buddhist temples in the U.S. and grew up seeing quite a few of my friends get really into it. I never did, but I went to the temple to peruse their library sometimes, and talked to some of the monks occasionally.

If you can't find a good book for it (sadly I'm not very well read on this subject) I'd recommend stopping by some churches or temples. At least when I went the monks seemed pretty eager to answer my questions. And if that isn't enough, maybe head to your local seminary? They usually have exceptional libraries.

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>>133304723
2 Peter 2

>Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
>Give not what is holy to dogs
>neither cast ye your pearls before swine
>or they will trample them under their feet
>and turn about and rend you into pieces
Matthew 7:7

>>133300370
Hi Shlomo.

>>133304168
To a bumbling retard maybe

>>133304221
Theres portaits of the man, writings by the man, multiple accounts from various people at the time mention him
Answering a question with a question is a big red flag that you dont have an argument

Now give me an example of Jesus existing other than religious text i'll wait

>>133304440
How do you know those are jesus's teeth or foreskin?

>>133304440
The Holy Prepuce (foreskin) used to get some veneration back when the Church still celebrated the feast of the Circumcision (January 1), but this came under fire in the late 19th century when the Church realized how many Holy Prepuces were floating around Europe. They have all since disappeared, and the Feast of the Circumcision has been removed from the liturgical calendar as embarrassing, but you can still find old Latin orations about it from the 16th-18th centuries. Catholics are the biggest fucking revisionists.

>>133303165
leaf

>>133303793
You're cute, wanna marry? I can convert you to islam

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>>133300085
Yup. Pic related.

>>133305765
Is theres an archive of the thread?

>>133304977
Answering a question with a question is called the Socratic method.

Anyways, we have portraits of Jesus and multiple authors that write about him and his sayings. Seems like Jesus fits your criteria for historicity.

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>>133300085
Christians killed, tortured and destroyed everything that was related to the true EUROPEAN spirituality, paganism, which itself was very much connected to culture and European BLOOD and dictated life for Europeans in such a strong way that pretty much all of the high festivals of TODAY are STILL mainly if not only PAGAN, the only Christian change being the name and some lies.

Now Cuckstianity wants to destroy European blood itself. With shit like "Love your neighbor", "we are all the same, we're brothers, God is our father", "do good without looking at who", etc. An universal religion that came from the desert. NOT EUROPEAN.

And if it didn't destroy it's way through it would never have as many adepts. Still a dying religion by the way. Europeans are waking up to their true roots since now they're not tortured and killed by christians when doing so anymore.

The little childlike story of a being in the sky which power and said "benevolence" are so non present that creates such huge hypocrisy.


“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”

― Epicurus

2.000 years of Cuckstianity.
5.000+ of EUROPEAN Paganism.

European concept of HONOR
JUSTICE
FAMILY
FOLK
ETC
Comes from PAGANISM.

Yet some people think it's Christianity that came up from that, and without Christianity there's nothing but evil. Such immature and irrational idea is hardly grasped by the free thinking man.

If you're European embrace your own roots, not a desert cult. Christianity is an Abrahamic religion, grouped together with Jews and Muslims becase their religion is pretty much the same. Again, not European.

Contrary to popular belief there are places you can learn about European Paganism. To start with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE0_mE5JFWU&list=PLV1Xd_c5-wta8HSKFx15qdV5L-pm5XvZA

>>133305094
How do you anything is what someone says it is? How do you know your mom is your biological mother and not just some lady who raised you? How do you know the world wasn't created five minutes before you were born and all this "History" stuff is made up and implanted in our minds? How do you know stars are giant burning balls of gas and not tiny bugs trapped in the sky? How do you know the moon is made of rocks and not cheese? How do you know germs are real and not an illusion?

Eventually you just have to fucking roll with it since it's generally accepted by scientists and historians. You can be as skeptical as you want but you're only setting yourself up for an existential crisis when you wonder whether or not you're real since there's no real proof that you're real and not just someone else's dream.

Same thing applies to Jesus. There's no real way to absolutely prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he was real because no one alive today was around when his baby teeth fell out to prove they were once in his skull. But then, you'd just want proof he isn't lying or something. You can believe Jesus was a myth if you want, but there's no real way to prove anything at all isn't a myth. So you either roll with it or you don't.

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>>133306140

>>133306140
Varg's entire playlist on youtube "ThuleanPerspective" on "European Polytheism & Tradition". Is a pretty good place to start learnig about Paganism.

Of course you also have the Poetic Edda.
Dr. Jackson Crawford has made the English translation of it and has some very good videos on the topic as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_l33RAAjrg

>>133306392
ok. I don't believe it. Happy? Something tells me you won't be.

>>133300738
Amen.
pol is a Christian board

>>133307034
LOL no
Fuck off Summerfag

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>>133306140
Degenerates

>>133306002
Socrates was also a fucking dickhead

>>133300260
No he wasn't faggot.

He was a kike,

his real name was Jesus Shekelberg. The Christfags changed it.

>>133300085
Yes and he loves you.

>>133307137
>Here, let me post a screenshot I made that has 400 lines of text
tldr, Jesus is a cuck

>>133306002
And no thats not the same thing at all and you know it
Show me historical sources that mention jesus as a real historical figure from that period

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>>133300085

>>133306826
No, that's not Asatru. Nor describes the ancient European Traditions and culture. That's the Occult/Wicca/etc...

Learn some real culture please, your indoctrinated little christian brain might not be used to it, but it's good.

>>133306905
No, I actually am. Very happy, in fact. I love it when people actually make a decision and have a belief instead of going all "Maybe, but let's go find more data first". Fuck data and fuck logic. Things are better when people just make a choice and go with it, even if it's wrong.

>>133306392
Now this is full on retardation
Not even worth arguing with Christjews
Hitler was right about it being poison to the mind

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>>133307250
Citation needed

>>133306826

>>133307401
You did it again, cuck.
Nobody reads your screenshots, sweetie.
tldr Jesus is a cuck.

>>133300000

>>133300085
He was real. Just not named Jesus. His real name will be around the name 'Ise' or "Iesu" DESU. The anglicized name is just a transliteration. Take the more Semitic sounding names more seriously.

>>133307137
>throwing the baby out with the bathwater

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>>133307137
Yes, let's talk about degeneracy...

>>133300085
He was. He was black. We wuz kangz and prah-fits and sheeeit

Fuck off nigger

>>133300085
>Was he real?
If you mean did a man called Jesus live then yes he did, there's no doubt about that. Did the jews fuck him over? Yes.

Was he the result of a virgin birth with angels hanging around and rising from the dead? I doubt it.

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>>133307509
EXORCIZAMOSTEOMNISIMMVNDESPIRITVSOMNISSATANICPOTESTASOMNISINFERNALISADVERSARIIOMNISLEGIOOMNISCONGREGATIOETSECTADIABOLICAINNOMINEETVIRTVTEDOMININOSTRIJESVCHRISTIERADICAREETEFFVGAREADEIECCLESIAABANIMABVSADIMAGINEMDEICONDITISACPRETIOSODIVINIAGNISANGVINEREDEMPTISNONVLTRAAVDEASSERPENSCALLIDISSIMEDECIPEREHVMANVMGENVSDEIECCLESIAMPERSEQVIACDEIELECTOSEXCVTEREETCRIBRARESICVTTRITICVMIMPERATTIBIDEVSALTISSIMVSCVIINMAGNATVASVPERBIATESIMILEHABERIADHVCPRÆSVMISQVIOMNESHOMINESSVVLTSALVOSFIERIETADAGNITIONEMVERITATISVENIRE

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>>133300738
Amen

>>133306140
>Varg
Kill yourself

Anointing oil is cannabis

it cures cancer

Keneh bosem is cannabis, cannabis oil will cures cancer

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>>133308123

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>>133308832

>>133307270
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, James, and Paul were eyewitnesses or associates thereof

>>133300085
Yes, he is real and he is the Lord.

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>>133308727

>>133300085
Yes he was real. But it is up to you to decide if he was the son of god or not.

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>>133309100
>only one pope

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>>133305964
I'm not sure, I can't find one if there is one.
I just saved the pic from somewhere.
The posts are from 8ch/Christian/ is you want to ask them.
They're very informative.

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>>133306826
>That pony mug

>>133309348
Sill, the present pope.

Tells a lot about Christianity of TODAY, not 800 years ago.

>>133309279

Amen on that one. I'm a Christian, believe he was the son of God, however, don't believe in the Trinity.

>>133300085
Jesus was a Muslim.

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>>133302393
no

>>133310214
That's right my nigga, pbuh

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>>133309908
Pope Leo the XIII
Pope Pius the X
and 2000 years of being conservative > one pope

>>133310363
Meme Indulgences are fine

>>133304977
Holy shit you're a retard
http://tektonics.org/jesusexisthub.php

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>>133300085
>Was he real?
yes
>a real Jew

>>133309100
i wonder if he wipes his hand on his ass first knowing that the Papa has to lick it

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>>133309261
For those who are not aware Stefan Molyneux is absolutely sick in the head. Check this out:

http://defoo.org/inner-circle/
http://archive.is/HOS2T

He doxes people who leave his inner circle and exposes their innermost secrets to the world:

http://defoo.org/colleen-cowgill/
http://archive.is/nEIfN

>Colleen Cowgill was a member of the Inner Circle of Freedomain Radio. She struggles with narcissistic personality disorder as a result of abuse in childhood.

>After the breakup, she hoped to attract a new male and was having trouble without the use of makeup. She has struggled with acne and feels insecure if people can see it. Colleen now applies a thick layer of foundation, nearly as thick as her false self.

>In a Freedomain Radio podcast on sibling abuse, Colleen says that both she and her brother Edward Cowgill were physically abused as children. Though, she was considered the favorite child and thus received less abuse than her brother. Her parents, Keith and Mary Cowgill, are irrational, mystic, Christians.

>Colleen believes she was molested as an infant or toddler and that her parents kept this a secret, hoping she would forget. She believes this caused all manner of degeneracy and promiscuous behavior at much too young of age. She sent naked photographs to boys at as early as 14. She had sex with a 20 year old male when she was only 15.

>As a result of rejecting philosophy, Colleen is now stuck in perpetual adolescence. She’s almost 30 and still childless and in college. As was predicted by DeFOO.org years ago, she has broken up with her fiance Courtney Hunter. Now she smugly brags about her new non-white boyfriend. Keith must be thrilled.

Will you go to Heaven when you die? Here’s a quick test: Have you ever lied, stolen, or used God’s name in vain? Jesus said,
“Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
If you have done these things, God sees you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart,
and the Bible warns that one day God will punish you in a terrible place called Hell.
But God is not willing that any should perish. Sinners broke God’s Law and Jesus paid their fine.
This means that God can legally dismiss their case:
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
Then Jesus rose from the dead, defeating death. Today, repent and trust Jesus, and God will give you eternal life as a free gift.
Then read the Bible daily and obey it. God will never fail you.

>>133311522
god didn't into english
>checkmate theist

>>133300085
When did /pol/ start worshiping a jew-nigger?

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>>133314379
You might like pic related.

>>133311075
How the fuck you going to send nude photos of someone underaged? How would you develop them?

It was the intention of Jesus of Nazareth to overthrow the Babylonian Jews which had come to rule over the remaining pure Israelites. He was litteraly assembling an army to march on Jerusalem to take over Judea and restablish the Ten Commandments as sole authority and himself as king.

>>133315470
Forgot to add. Then the jews killed him via Roman proxy. Just like today with americans

JESUS WAS REAL AND IS PRESENT WITHIN THE HOLY EUCHARIST. BEND ON YOUR KNEES FILTHY PAGANS.

>>133300085
There is a book called Jesus and the Goddess and in it the authors detail the creation and puspose of Jesus as a myth which integrated jewish and pagan myths to create a 'super' myth. The gnostic christians recognised the jesus myth as an allegory for man but they were destroyed by the sect of literalists which one might call the roman catholics nowadays. Give it a read, its very interesting.