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Catholics, wtf is this?

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Is this a pre or post gay drug orgy mass?
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>>133273420
Serpent head is very disturbing
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>>133273420
You have pareidolia but for benis
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>>133273420
Catholics are luciferians.
Not surprised.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk6gQhKa9YQ
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is that his stand?
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>>133273420
>When he created it in 1977, Fazzini explained that the statue shows Jesus rising from the crater of a nuclear bomb.

its looks demonic, but I think it's kind of neat
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>>133273420
That's the 7th inning stretch, if you know what I mean.
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>>133273420
Amerishart can't appreciate art like always. Leave art and religion to the europeans, please, protestant idiot.
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>>133275516
Stupid catholic, you don't even understand what the esoteric meaning of your so called "art" is.
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>>133276448
>blazed out artist wanting to do some social commentary on atomic weapons
>actually makes a neat looking sculpture that shows his skill
>"S-stupid catholic you just don't understand it!"
I get that most art nowadays is shit and that some artists really have disgusting motives (Stu Mead) but come on.
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>>133273420
The Roman Catholic Church is not Christian. It never was. Individual Catholics may follow Christ, but their Church surely does not.
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>>133277599
[NICE OVERDRIVE]
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>>133277599
hot as f to be honest
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>>133277919
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>>133277447
And cardinals voted for him and then he destroyed the church
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This hapened last month.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/cardinal-lands-australia-face-sexual-abuse-charges-48536540

This happened last week.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/vatican-police-raid-drug-fueled-gay-orgy-cardinal-apartment-article-1.3302974

The Catholic Church is a front for pedophiles and closeted gay men. How is any of this still news to you guys?
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Just a reminder, your Eucharist Host can NOT be gluten-free
http://archive.is/iS9PN
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>>133277599
she dindu nuffin
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>>133277933

That's nuthin'.

Look up the school for the deaf in Milwaukee. Priests fucked deaf little boys because they couldn't tell anyone.
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I recommend watching a documentary called "The Keepers" on Netflix.
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>>133278182
hilarious that they allow sodomy but not this.
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>>133277498
Are you trying to tell me christians are socialist cucks? Next thing you'll tell me is that they want to turn the other cheek to their enemies and eat with thieving jews!
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>>133273420
it looks like the final boss of a JRPG
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>>133273420
stop being a faggot asshole nigger fuck stick. you mother fucker ass nigger tongue rubber chicken.

Jesus is saving the souls in the depths of hell, when he died on the cross he went to hell and saved the souls and those from now on. faggot

This image depicts it.
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>>133277919
>Best Cardinal Schoenborn.jpg

Is it a sin to pray for a new Pope, like, nao?
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>>133277498
Literally everything in that picture is 100% in line with the teachings of Christ. You might not like it, but that's just reality, be glad that we have seperation of church and state because if we just went by the bible we'd all be living in commie countries.
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>>133277599
God, just imagine having the be the officer/special agent in charge of reviewing all that footage...

Uh, just makes you sick to your stomach, doesn't it?

Man, I feel sooooooooooooo bad for that guy....
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>>133276448
>you don't even understand what the esoteric meaning of your so called "art" is.

Occultist here.

Neither do you.
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I am a Catholic and I will not defend any building or writing post Vatican II. Vatican II was a departure from the teaching of the Church, and the subsequent scandals and demise of many religious orders bears witness to this fact.

The audience hall in this photo was commissioned by the Pope who approved the writings of Vatican II, Paul VI. The in addition to frightening modern sculpture that supposedly depicts Our Lord Jesus Christ, the building itself has been made to look like a serpent. (Serpents have NEVER been used the Church as depicting anything good, but are symbols of sin and the devil.)

This building and the "modern art" inside are an offense against the faith. True Catholic architecture can be seen in the great cathedrals of Europe, which remain the most beautiful buildings in the world.
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>>133278379
Nice that they're dealing with the important issues
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>>133277284
>The Roman Catholic Church is not Christian. It never was. Individual Catholics may follow Christ, but their Church surely does not.
t. heretic
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>>133278868
Demi-god here, none of y'all got any idea
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>>133278589
No, as long as you're not praying for something bad to happen to Francis
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>>133273420
>>133273963
This is what it looks like when you zoom out.
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>>133279447
I don't trust the looks of that Eve over there, acting all dindu-ish
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>>133277447
As a Catholic, fuck this shit. I had high hopes for Francis, but he's an awful pope and he needs to keep his ass out of social justice and politics.

>>133279447
Something about this is deeply disturbing to me.
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>>133275516
Euro-pee-ons importing art from Africa by the boatload.
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>>133278868
Sure thing eye doctor.
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>>133273420
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>>133278725
"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's." Romans 13:1

JUST KIDDING LOL OVERTHROW YOUR GOVERNMENTS WORKERS OF THE WORLD SEIZE DA MEMES OF PRODUCTION
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>>133277447
This is why I'm protestant
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>>133277115
You are kidding yourself if you think that is how the church does anything.
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>>133278725
communism is anti christianity you tard. it's a religion itself and it has no room for christianity that's why commie countries purge the religious. it's satanic.
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>>133277599
>Maria-sama ga Miteru.mp4
>Strawberry Panic.mkv
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>>133273420

Bloodborne 2 is looking good
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>>133278182
It has never been, since it must be made with wheat.

It has always been this way, but for some reason leftists have recently pretended there is anything special about it.

Since you seem suddenly care about how things have been for millenia, you are probably a leftist.
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>>133278946
And what happened to all of those other churches that had intact Apostolic successions that were every bit as legitimate as the Bishop of Rome? Many of them still exist, but not for lack of Catholic persecution!
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>>133278886
>the building itself has been made to look like a serpent.

pffffaaaahaha. It's amazing what you can make retards believe by using a fish eye lens.

It's like those fish hat retards.
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protestant countries like england where op and great during ww2 they defeated the ottomans and allenby who fought them respected catholics

>100 years later you have retards from america and england the usual countries saying catholics are satanic but are fucking retarded and see that their own churches anglican etc have been corrupted and are fucked up but still blame catholics
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>>133279648
>Something about this is deeply disturbing to me.

It's very clearly the head of a snake, and the pope literally speaks from its mouth when he is holding session in this hall. It's not even a conspiracy theory.
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all our churches are being corrupted but your doing fuck all about it
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>>133273420
>implying the vatican isn't the earthly seat of Satan.
Really activates my charcoal.
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>>133277599
Oh that sucks like for real guise. Im so glad they cracked this caper.
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>>133273420
Christ rising from a nuke by Pericle Fazzini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcR85Ojhx6M
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>>133273420
>Is this a pre or post gay drug orgy mass?

Why is it that protestants are like mudslimes when it comes to good art anyway?


When he created it in 1977, Fazzini explained that the statue shows Jesus rising from the crater of a nuclear bomb.
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>>133277447
>people voted for hitler
>Pope agreed to the Reichskonkordat with Hitler
>Pope pressured the catholic Zentrumspartei to stop the blockade of Hitler, allowing his rise to power
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>>133280748
I'm actually a conservative republican, just not brainwashed by a Jewish splinter religion perpetuated by goat-herders, and later mass-murderers.
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>>133279447
Thats some Monogatari series shit
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>>133277599
Yuri is pure
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>>133280748
This. Also, eating rare steak falls into this category as well. We've been cooking meat well-done for millennia, now tradition hating leftists decide "lol fuck that let's under-cook it because fuck tradition lmao". If you eat rare steak, please leave this site you liberal fag
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>>133281146
No kidding. Who designed this anyway? It looks recently built.
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The Catholic church are luciferians.
Idiot Catholics that hate protestants are too blind to see, they pray to shrines of Mary for fucks shake.

It is the Satanic Catholic Church are behind a lot of things (Jesuits) using the Jews as pawns for their agenda.

Christianity has never needed organized religion. People being personally religious is fine.
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>>133282823
The sculture is by Pericle Fazzini, but I haven't looked into who is the architect of the room. Some sources which discuss the piece may also talk about the building, etc.
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>>133282720
You're eating rare steak when you receive the Consecrated Host leaf.
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>>133273420
if you look into it then its clearly and obviously satanic
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>>133283025
>Christianity has never needed organized religion
Who's the Luciferian now?
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im a catholic and ia gree the vatican has being infiltrated but calling catholics satanic is fucking retarded since the people that do that mostly read pseudo history and psedo facts which are fake bullshit


macron erdogan shinzo abe and modi are the real problem and that include eugenists and nazis and alt right faggots
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>>133273420

Its a "we control half the supreme court and a big part of the media" sort of thing.

also the UN and the EU.
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>>133283025
>Catholic church are luciferians
>(Jesuits) using the Jews
>Christianity has never needed organized religion
Frodo, shut the fuck up, you don't even know what you are talking about >>>/his/
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>>133283410
>Abe and Modi
?
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>>133276448
you do realize your fucking flag is catholic right?
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>>133282720

Medium-rare is the best, in accordance with the concept of the Golden Mean developed by Europeans millennia ago and unique to our civilization
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>>133277447
>HE destroyed HIS people

I hate kikes so much.
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>>133273420
>>133279447
notice how there is no cross here.
no christian symbols at all, no christian art.
just a huge serpenthead and a fucked up statue.
The statue was also described by the artist to be Jesus "rising out of a nuclear crater".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Resurrection_(Fazzini)
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>>133283523
Disprove anything I've said retard?
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>>133283584
>its a frenchman doesnt know about the oriental and red-dot jew
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>>133281146
I thought it looked like a snake too. How symbolic of the pope's role as the mouth of satan...
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>>133283734
That's acceptable, but this rare and blue bullshit is pure degeneracy

>>133283257
That is not a meat product
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>>133283909
Well, most of the things you say are blatant lies and show how you know nothing about the history of the Christendom and how evolve from the pagan things of Rome till what is today and how most of that was integrated inside the rites and how was spread across Europe
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>>133284208
>it's a stupid anglo believes the “seal of solomon” isn't an ancient Indian symbol that traveled through Asia to Japan via Buddhism
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>>133283584
both of them together both like weird shit and both have aides and ministers in there goverment that have said things like catholics should be eliminated and that low castes should be pureified and killed off

>>133284208 and what you said there fits the bill too
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>>133273420
Church has been run by a luciferian cult since the 70's, anon.

Sound crazy, I know. I'm no conspiracy theorist. I've looked into it, and that's my honest conclusion. I suggest you all do the same.
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Is it true there's currently an internal power struggle occuring at the Vatican?

After Archbishop of NY Dolan pledged to support Trump, the Pope banned Freemasons from the Knights of Malta, and then sacked the head of the order.

Now out of the blue we get busts and arrests of high level Francis aligned Vatican officials.

Unless it's all just a charade, it seems to me that there is a faction of Trump aligned Freemasons and Knights of Malta who are trying to oust Francis and the Jesuits from control at the Vatican.

https://catholiccitizens.org/news/69506/pope-ordered-card-burke-clean-freemasons-knights-malta/
dhttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-knights-delegate-idUSKBN1591G3?il=0
https://apnews.com/d315219bbead4f77abc62266a935d12b/knights-malta-insist-sovereignty-amid-papal-takeover

This schism mirrors similar rifts between the Jews. Between the oil sheikhs (Qatar/GCC). And even between the US security agencies themselves.

Is this real, or more theatre?
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The Catholic Church is crazy. Gay sex orgies, fighting for Jewish interests, being Communists, building Jesus (Satanic) altars. When did things go so wrong?
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>>133277884
rippin gaggaz m8 noice father good1 m8
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church on its own is antichristian.
jesus said you can pray wherever
your relationship with that god figure is personal m8
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>>133283523
Yes he does, you on the other hand should read some more history

talmud jews, catholics, masons, saudi muslims and even the UN are all luciferian/satanic worshippers that happily put out a superficial lie to those too ignorant to bother checking it out properly, meaning the vast majority of people, especially atheists who are so damned ignorant they consider it beneath them to understand something that have a huge impact on our society.
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>>133274154
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>>133284847
infiltrated there getting in and pushing there agenda
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>>133279883
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>>133284451
you fool.

Read the bible and you will see that it does not fit.

The catholic church have even edited the bible, changed the commandments etc
it does the things the bible warns us about
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>>133277284
>>133274457
lol protestant faggots don't even realize that the Catholic church was the original church and that their heresy was created by a faggot German who wanted to change things to suit his needs.
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>>133278133
hey that's me
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>>133281506
thats more like something the anti christ would do
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>>133284847

All man made institutions inevitably fall. The strongest, most persuasive spiritual leader can only propagate himself as best as his followers can interpret him
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>>133283410
The catholic doctrine and church is bad, not the individuals that don't know any better.

They claim that the pope is jesus temporary replacement, that is heresy right from the very thing its based on.
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>>133285784
Remember that in hell, papist. Pray to your goddess then, see what good that does you.
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Did the Galgameks sign off on this?
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>>133279648
>>133281146
>>133282823
>>133283167
god this is such reddit tier /x/ garbage
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>>133285928
>not the individuals that don't know any better.

There are no such creatures.
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>>133285784
>catholic
>"original church"

Oh yeah, remember when Jesus did all those catholic things?
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>>133286195
It's open knowledge, and visible for yourself.

The pope speaks between the fangs of the serpent.

Even the outside of the hall looks like a serpent head.
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>>133273420
Catholic Church is dead. It was murdered by the jews and freemasons.

Oh you still have the physical structure. You still have the Vatican. You still have priests, bishops, nuns and cardinals.

But it is a zombie church. The Faith of Our Fathers is no longer being taught there. Instead you have evil.

This was all prophesized and we are "lucky" to "live in interesting times" where we get to see a one-world religion take place before our eyes.

The last Catholic Pope was Pope Saint Pius X. He knew this was coming and tried to fight it. So it is no surprise that since Vatican II you have evil taking place.

I go to the Latin Mass. I am a Catholic and will be till I die (God willing). It is just sad to see this destruction of the once great church.

On a side note the Jesuits were the ones responsible for what happened at Vatican II. They have been destroying the Church for quite a while now. So it doesn't surprise me that there is a Jesuit as the Pope.
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>>133284756
its based on anti biblical ideas right from the start.

its like feminism, when you start to look into it you think it had some good sides but when you get deeper you realize that the times it did something good then that was at random and that its never been good.
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>>133277599

....nice....
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>>133286203
for sure there are

>grow up in catholic home
>get indoctrinated
>don't read bible
>listen to authority
>get told you are doing good
>never learn the truth

it is very common
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>>133279447
The statue is Abaddon who is king over the locusts that dwell in the bottomless pit, which is in the belly of the beast or the great serpent.

All of this is a metaphor, of course.
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>>133286359
>>133286295
>>133286291
Y'all from the fucking Spacing Guild or something?! You need to go back.
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>>133286295
the pope is not biblical, you should discard him if you love God
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>>133286559
The truth fears no investigation.

Take your pathetic attempt at shaming the truth someplace else, this ain't tumblr.
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Francis needs to die so we can get our boy Christoph the Archbishop of Vienna in the Vatican
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>>133286671
Spacing, retard. Go back to plebbit and shove that green cuckflag up your saggy arse
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>>133286295
It was consecrated to Satan in 1962. Ten years later the Council of Rome divided the world into 10 kingdoms in preparation for the Antichrist.

It's the most evil institution on earth.
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>>133283877
>no christian symbols at all, no christian art
>centerpiece is a statue of Jesus
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Let's talk about all the ways catholics are retarded:
>don't allow priests to marry
why the fuck not you stupid fucking retards?
>baptize babies
wait until they can make the decision themselves you retarded fucks
>put a man between you and god
all these people bowing to a man, it's fucking disgusting
>have buttfuckingly retarded doctrines
no birth control? what the fuck??
>have a shitty history
torturing people, selling indulgences, launching political crusades against fellow Christians to get debt payments
>molest hundreds of thousands of children
and then cover it up, remember they're the holy ones
>basically pagan
the father, the son, the holy ghost. This huge laundry list of saints. These strange blood rituals at the altar
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>>133286693
the very concept of a pope is anti christ in nature, why do you want one?
>>133286776
does it really matter if people don't shift press their enter keys? You are either a idiot or you are trying to pollute the truth
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>>133286457
It may indeed be common.

But ignorance has never been an excuse before the Law, and it will not be an excuse before God.

The people in the Catholic church have the God given conscience to see through its chicanery and into its evil heart.

If they are comfy in the Catholic church, they are lost.
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>>133278725
Christian behavior is giving of yourself to the benefit of those who are in need of it, this is literally the same as Marx's own words, HOWEVER, it does not condone the forcible giving of those who have from those who have more to those who have the least.
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>>133285784

Nonsense. It was simply the one left standing after the fall of Rome and after its adherents went around MURDERING members of the other sects. Remember gnostics? Hmmmm I wonder where they all went to...

Also claiming someone who risked being burnt alive was working under selfish motivations is pretty damn weak.
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>>133286902
This

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>>133286813
>And making such pieces is something the Bible tell us not to do
>the catholic church edited the commandments to keep doing their anti christ shit
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>>133286469
Yeah, except when you read it's supposed to be Jesus surviving some sort of nuclear blast.

And of course "Jesus" has some sort of wings.

A winged being, followed by hordes of demons. That sound like Jesus? Or Satan?

Abaddon's followers are demonic locusts.
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>>133287041
Learn to format or leave you retarded faggot
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>>133277682
All of these things are technically correct, but the context of their display makes me worried.
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>>133286897
All this and more. The death toll behind the Vatican is in the tens of millions.
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>>133287094
Fuck off newfag. I was here when it was /a/ and /b/ and there was no fucking leddit.
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>>133286559
Pay attention to what is going on around you.

If you don't think the church was infiltrated and taken over from within then you are not paying attention.

If you only knew how bad things really were. I don't think you could handle the knowledge of what is taking place now. These are not men of God. These are evil men.

I want you to think about this. The Pope used to wear a triple crown. The Triregnum (the Papal Tiara formed by three crowns symbolizing the triple power of the Pope: father of kings, governor of the world and Vicar of Christ) was given to the United Nations by Pope Paul VI.

This is the sign that a King has been conquered.
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>>133287022
I have no time for your mangled interpretation of the Books written by Catholics that you have since subverted for your own ideology.
Anon said it wasn't Christian, which is patently untrue.
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>>133277650

the ultimate infiltration of the Catholic Church by this fuck
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>>133287110
They're actually abominations.
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>>133287041
Everything the Catholic church does are things the bible warns us about because it will be the works of lucifer.

They take the truth and twist it just slightly, it should appear the same but be different, this is where the fascination with backwards writing and such comes from, because the text is the same but still entirely changed.
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>>133287314
Satan and his demon horde housed in a serpent building have nothing to do with Christianity.
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>>133287261
you're full of shit, newfag.
take your luciferian cult conspiracy theories and shove them up your ass. the church has been infiltrated but not by satan worshippers, real life isn't an action movie you fucktard
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>>133287285
It is a sign that the organizations are working together on their occult agenda, just as planned.

both organizations share a goal with satan: the one world religion and the coming of the antichrist
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>>133287470
Yup. They are even looking for extra-terrestrials through a telescope in Arizona that was called L.U.C.I.F.E.R. before there was a huge outcry about it.

They changed it to L.U.C.Y.
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>>133278589
there will be no new pope, this one is rumored to be the very last and an anti-pope to boot
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>>133287444
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>>133287580
It's not a fucking theory when it's right in front of your fucking nose, papist.

Go fuck yourself.

The Vatican is home to Satan. The Superforce. Cardinals worship Satan and offer blood sacrifices to Satan in the Vatican.

These things are well documented.
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>>133277561
So you can have homophobic homos?
Like Jumbo Shrimp?!!!
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>>133287314
its not untrue, you have been fooled.

You have no time for proving yourself right? Seems like a very weak position you have.

My "interpretation" is actually just comparing texts and noticing that the edited catholic bible tells us very different stories in many cases
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>>133287496
The statue is a depiction of Christ. There is no counterargument to this blatant fact. I'm sure that won't stop your broken mind from trying to fabricate more sensationalist bullshit on a Lithuanian glassblowing forum however. /x/ is waiting for you.
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>>133277561
That's an Ashkenazi Jew if I ever saw one.
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>>133277561
It's not unlikely at all. The church is desperate for priests and homosexuals with consciences are desperate not to act out on their unnatural urges.

They join the church thinking that the church will help them; that celibacy will help them.

What they find is a bunch of other homosexuals and an unending supply of children to molest. And a church that will hide them from the police. And a church that will pay hush money to silence accusers. And a church that will murder witnesses.
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>>133285784
>lol protestant faggots don't even realize that the Catholic church was the original church
Must be bait
>>133286991
>It was simply the one left standing after the fall of Rome and after its adherents went around MURDERING members of the other sects. Remember gnostics? Hmmmm I wonder where they all went to...
>american education
>what is the pentarchy
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>>133273420
Reminder that Proteststants believe that you get raptured before shit hits the fan while Catholicism says that we all must endure the 7 year. Then after the true believers are saved.

Catholics won't be raptured at all.
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>>133287863
Christ has no wings.

The statue has wings.

Therefore it is not Christ.

It is something that wants to be worshiped as God, and you comply.
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>>133286103
I'm sure Jesus will love your intolerance for people who follow the faith faggot. I'd rather burn in hell forever than follow a religion as flawed and stupid as Protestantism
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>>133287833
> La Resurrezione depicts Jesus rising from a nuclear crater in the Garden of Gethsemane
> Associated Press. "Fazzini Dies; Sculptor, 74". Schenectady Gazette, 4 Dec 1987. Accessed 29 Apr 2014.
gee that was hard
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>>133279648
>As a Catholic, fuck this shit. I had high hopes for Francis, but he's an awful pope and he needs to keep his ass out of social justice and politics.

I had nothing but visions of doom when I heard it was a south american pope... and it was all dead on. This fuck needs to go. I can't believe this piece of shit is our Pope. And yeah, I refer to him that way because there's no way he's an honest Godly pope, but an infiltrator bent on destroying real Christianity on earth.
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>>133288031
Both are true.

Christians will be raptured prior to the Tribulation; and Catholics being unsaved will go through the Tribulation and experience the Wrath of God.

I can hardly wait!
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>>133287863
they pretend its a statue of christ and people believe them because they are clueless.

The devil rule in a secular society and you just proved it
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>>133287959
Don't bother m8, PIDF views orthodox just as badly as Catholics. They have to deal with being iconoclast kikes LARPing as Christians somehow I guess.
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>>133288060
Jesus will deal with the Whore of Babylon with fire from heaven.

He warned you to get out.

Did you listen? No. So you get what you get; you get the plagues of the Whore, and you get the punishment of the Whore.
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>>133288056
Wrong. See>>133288068
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>>133288068
Jesus does not have wings.

The Garden of Gethsemene has never experienced a nuclear event.

Idolatry, especially this idolatry, is wicked and an abomination to God.
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>>133286582
The Pope IS biblical. St. Peter was selected by Jesus to lead the Church. The problem is that many people assume that Judas was the only traitor (and remember he was also hand selected by Jesus).

>>133286788
Oh yes. I know about that. It was done with a human sacrifice in South Carolina at the same time in a bi-location ceremony. Some of the people involved in that ceremony were Cardinal Mahoney (former Cardinal Los Angeles) and Cardinal Bernardin (former Cardinal Chicago) were among those present in South Carolina.

There is a persistent rumor that Pope Paul VI and Sister Lucia were murdered and replaced. That is just one of the many strange things that have taken place about the 3rd Secret of Fatima.
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>>133288276
>>133288362
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>Forgetting that images can be corrupted
Anons
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>>133288362
Fuck off protest-Jew. You and your iconoclast heresy wouldn't know idolatry if it bit you in the ass.
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Thank you God, for not birthing me a Catholic
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>>133288388
The Pope IS biblical.

He is the False Prophet of Mystery Babylon and will be cast alive into hellfire.
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>>133288068
>tries to disprove the Holy bible with a quote about a satanic statue
>thinks followers of satan never would lie about anything

really?
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>>133288481
>It's not idolatry when we do it!
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>>133288512
Amen. It's nice to have some hope in life.
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>>133288255
Hahahahah have fun with your love of wrath false Christian. You sure haven't learned from his teachings and that will become apparent in judgment.
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>>133273420
Its the wall where the souls are stored, obviously.
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>>133288574
>What is the difference between Veneration and Adoration
Fuck off till you learn theology beyond that kike Anderson going "Muh gays"
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>>133287041
"I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive."
-John 5:43

The hour of temptation draws near.
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>>133288656
I love everything about God, including His wrath.

I hate everything about the whore of Babylon.
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>>133283608
I was about to point the same thing. Thank you Mr. Faggot
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>>133288255
>Says the follower of the creepy whore who has to use diabolical psychological techniques to keep people hooked.

>pic related

lol
Nobody takes prots seriously. You guys should just be honest and admit you're like all the other atheists who make up their own reality.
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>>133288691
>Muh idol of the Mother of God and Queen of Heaven is different from the Babylonian's idols of the Mother of God and Queen of Heaven!
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>>133288276
If I make a statue of a bird and I tell you that its a dog, would you still act the way you do?

>durr, suddenly dogs have wings because the man who made it knows better than reality
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>>133288712
As does the Great Delusion.

And the great falling away.
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>>133288740
>including His wrath
Old Testament?
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>>133280086
By saying this, Jesus meant that money is worthless. To him it meant as little as dirt.
He did not tell people that it is important to pay taxes or obey any state.
He even said later that it is wrong to tax someone: Matthew 17:25-26.
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>>133288787
We take the bible seriously. The Whore of Babylon, and the Queen of Heaven, are both in the bible.

Both accursed.
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>>133278886
basically Sede Vacante my dude
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>>133288864
Troubles of Jacob. Tribulation. Time of Wrath. The 70th Week of Daniel.
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>>133288811
That is not what I said and your inability to grasp that further proves your lack of theological knowledge. Go play in the shed you call a church, for all the good it will do you.
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>>133286291
u watch outer light / dark videos dont ya
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>>133287340
A man who might be homosexual, would, being a devout christian and putting his faith before his flesh, seek the vocation that best suits his temperament- a dedication to the Lord.

Forgetting that early priests had families and the celibate priesthood was given by a corrupt Church seeking greater temporal power and claims of land.

The Bible is not the word of God Itself, but the transcription thereof by men of prophecy and protected from evil and vandalism by the Holy Spirit Itself, forgetting that the council at Nicea declared many works apocryphal and removed from Church teaching, supposedly those actions were the work of the Lord's protections separating the wheat from the chaff.

As for Francis himself, one assumes he is an agent of the deceiver and may rightly draw the conclusion that such profound praise might well indicate that the claims of this particular priest are most definitely false in part or whole.
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>>133288388
He was never selected to be a replacement for jesus.

let us go through some points here. Jesus is God, if he is acting on behalf of Jesus and with his authority then that means we should worship the pope as God, but that is heresy.

The catholic church is anti christ in nature
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>>133288160
Rapture really isn't biblical. That whole thing about "two men in the field, one taken", "two in the bed, one taken"? It's in a section of prophecy that's already happened, it's a reference to devastating plague population reduction.

Most of Revelation has already happened, it describes the history of Christianity since the destruction of the temple in jerusalem.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Te9hqkylR84
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>>133287285
the pope doesnt wear that anymore notice that

>im catholic myself
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>>133288917
Sure you do.
LMAO
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>>133288512
>Being Catholic means fully engaging with the Full Gospel of Jesus Christ. Since I go to the Latin Mass I actually partake with the True Presence of Jesus Christ in the Host.

Most Catholics that go to the "church" today do not partake in that because Vatican II has changed everything.

I do believe that Jesus will help you because He loves you. But I am crossing the dangerous sea with Jesus at the helm. You are rowing a boat on your own. While you may make it to the other side I have much better odds of making it because I am in the same boat as Jesus.
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>>133289110

Rapture was introduced to keep the population docile (sky fairy will fix things, don't upset the balance)
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>>133288917
>>133288965
And you focus on exactly the parts that Jesus tells you not to focus on.
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>>133277884
Who the fuck cares?
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>>133288888
Hard to argue with quints, but no.

The image on the coin was Caesar's; render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.

The image on you, on me, on all of us, is God; render unto God that which is God's. All of us. Our lives. Souls. Strength. Mind.

Jesus charges taxes; His yoke is light, but it is a yoke.

And the passage you refer to is to highlight to Peter that they are no longer slaves to people who tax them; kings take tribute from strangers, not from their own family.

You missed the important bit at the end.

Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
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>>133274154
Negative hallucinations are equally pathological as positive ones.
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>>133286897

>don't allow priests to marry
This is based on scripture. "I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided"

>baptize babies
Baptism absolves people from original sin, and it is good for any christian to be baptised as soon as possible

>put a man between you and god
Jesus put a man between you and God. He gave the authority to cast out demons and forgive sins to his apostles. They and their successors have been doing that for centuries, as commanded by Christ.

>have buttfuckingly retarded doctrines
Catholics believe that family planning should be regulated by NFP methods. They believe artificial birth control is responsible for the moral decay in society, and they are demonstrably right.

>have a shitty history
If you only look at the bad parts. You are willfully ignoring the good parts of its history, of which there are many.

>molest hundreds of thousands of children
The Vatican itself has never condoned molestation or coverups. Only rogue priests and bishops. The Vatican has eagerly been working with authorities to root out abusers. Also, priests are actually less likely to be abused compared to people in similar professions, like teachers and childcare workers.

>basically pagan
Catholics just accept the same doctrines as the early Christians. The trinity, intercession of saints, the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist. These were all widely held doctrines in the early Church. Even most protestants today believe in things like the trinity, out of respect for the early Christians
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Look at how pathetic these prots are using a Templar flag title "Deus Vult" while claiming the Christ's Church is the whore of Babylon.
I wonder why they don't have a flag of their own.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism_and_Islam
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>>133288981
>Muh adoration/veneration/worship of the Mother of God and Queen of Heaven is totally different from a Babylonian pagan's adoration/veneration/worship of the Mother of God and Queen of Heaven! Pinky swear!
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>>133289000
Not sure, but probably.
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That's fucking Dark Souls level of weirdness.
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Why don't prots celebrate the Mass??
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>>133289412
Yep, still a complete moron. Tell you what, justify why you
>Deny The Saints
>Deny the True Presence
>Deny the Church Fathers
Yet call yourself Christian. I begin more and more to believe Revelation 3:9 refer to people like you, kike.
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>>133286902

>the very concept of a pope is anti christ in nature, why do you want one?

No shit, it's a corruption of Jesus' message.
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>>133289004
Such a man would repent and be saved, and beg the Lord to remove such unholy temptations from him.

I cannot forget the abominations of the Catholic church as those very same abominations are being practiced by people in this very thread, in my presence.

The bible is the word of God; Jesus is The Word of God. The Holy Spirit Who inspired the bible maintains it for the faithful, and teaches it to the living.

The bible has nothing to do with Nicea or any council that met there.

Francis is the False Prophet of Mystery Babylon as prophesied by Malachy and as defined in the Revelation of Jesus Christ.
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>>133273420
This is antichrist.

Anti (Greek) = instead / in place of
Vicar (Latin) = instead / in place of

Pope is called the Vicar of Christ...

or In place of Christ...

or Anti Christ.
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>>133289650
Because they're retarded heretics without apostolic succession and no legitimate theology.
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>>133289355
>Baptism absolves people from original sin, and it is good for any christian to be baptised as soon as possible
Protestants are a crazy bunch especially calvinists and the other NA sects. Orthodox Lutherans aren't so bad compared to the things you can see.
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>>133289110
Wrong again.

Paul taught the rapture, the harpazo in the Greek, to both the Corinthians and the Thessalonians.

Your passage is about the Second Coming, where one man will be kept for the Kingdom, and the other man cast into hellfire. Has nothing to do with the Rapture.

Your amillennialist bullshit is not welcome here.
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>>133278886
>Film and text history of Vatican II council
>Cardinal objects to the allowing of local languages and practices saying "If we should pass this, we will see Witch Doctors dancing voodoo dances in place of holy mass"
>Gets laughed off

>WYD in Sydney
>Giant open air """mass""" celebrated by pope
>as part of the """mass""" they have aboriginals dancing ooga booga dances during the processional
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Nice idolatry
>tfw goyim are to stupid to understand their 7 commandments, while we follow 613
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>>133277284
They do, but its not the front star like in other christian branches. Saint Mary is. Catholics are the OG gynocentrists
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>>133289239
There is no part of the word of God Jesus says not to focus on. 2 Tim. 3:16
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>>133285784
>lol protestant faggots don't even realize that the Catholic church
The jews were God's original church, surely that means they were right and never strayed from the path..
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>>133289355
>baptize babies
you do realize that the only way to get rid of sin is by you yourself making the choice right? If they are kids and don't understand then they will enter because they are innocent, not because the pope minion managed to rush to the hospital bed and sprinkle some water on the thing before it died.
that is moronic.
>Jesus put a man between you and God
No.


and the retarded doctrines are the ones like the fact the church has a pope, a very anti christ thing to have.
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the real antichrist is the ottoman empire it was killed in ww1 and will try to rise again

nazis and japan are a part of this system only they where beaten again

germnay
japan
india
turkey
france most liekly candidate countries for the antichrist

england will be wiped out
because of muslim immigrations etc they dont want the opposing empires anymore

england is weak but still has it territorys but there is no will anymore to fight for what is right

erdogan and macron are the two most liekly cadidates for antichrist false prophet

The vatican has being infiltrated on purpose to destroy the enemy of the antichrist system

protestant churches get cucked so they dont have protestant patriots anymore

they target the enemys rile up the evil empires to united

modi
abe
merkel
erdogan
macron

all are part of evil agenda
for gloablism anticrist nwo system

are the
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>>133289355
Your entire post is from the pit of hell.
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>>133289392
Luther was a Catholic friar.
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>>133289728
Elaborate on declaration four, please, this is contrary to my education.
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>>133278868
flesh vassal of Thor here
none yall niggers unnerdtan'it
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>>133289004
>The Bible is not the word of God Itself, but the transcription thereof by men of prophecy and protected from evil and vandalism by the Holy Spirit Itself, forgetting that the council at Nicea declared many works apocryphal and removed from Church teaching, supposedly those actions were the work of the Lord's protections separating the wheat from the chaff.
>didn't get the order right (James is the earliest written book).
>gave undue prominence to self-proclaimed apostle (((Paul)))
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>>133290025
Says the Protestant kike with no theological knowledge of tradition thinking he had the right, ability or education to interpret scripture.
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>>133289694
exactly, and the very heart of Catholic faith. Making it anti christ
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>>133289679
All born again Christians are saints. Very few if any Catholics are saints at all, and of course the Catholic church has no power to "elect" any saints.

The true presence in the Vatican is Satan, the Superforce, as revealed by Pope Paul VI and JP II, and written by Jesuit priest Martin Malachi.

Your papist Church Fathers were antisemetic murderers, gnostics, neo-platonists, and most importantly, thoroughly pagan.

You literally do not know what makes a person a Christian.
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>>133289033
No Catholic believes the Pope is the replacement of Jesus. I have no idea where you are getting that information.

As a Catholic I have faith in Jesus Christ. He created the Church. The Church is NOT a physical building but the people. Thus when we have bad popes (and we have had bad popes in the past) the Church remained because the people stayed strong and helped return things back to normal.

Right now we have an anti-pope in Francis. He is an evil man. He is surrounded by other evil people.

I am sure that things will work out though because Jesus is in charge. Which is why I stick to what I was taught and go to the Latin Mass.
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>>133290061
He's just being a retarded American. One of those "Muh (((KJV))) was xeroxed direct from heaven" types.
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>>133290025
>Heretics worshipping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr0UpQXYkGs

>Catholics worshipping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ1jIIl8IaY
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>>133290173
says people who read the bible
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>>133290061
The Council of Nicea had nothing to do with the canon.

They were putting down the Arians, formally. A council many decades later would purport to canonize the "real" books of the bible, and they would get it wrong.
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>>133286469
Yes, and Jesus is in the mouth of the serpent, along with the damned who we are to presume are from the belly of the beast.

So... question.

Is this entire structure indicating Christ is dead and devoured by the serpent, condemned as the damned?

or

Is this entire structure an exhibit of Christ's victory over death - and His drawing out even the dead from the bottomless pit right out and through the jaws of the beast?
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>>133290173
Your traditions are evil; they are the traditions of men and are anathema to a holy God.

That's the entire point. You're basically Pharisees.
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>>133290060
The he followed Satan into perversion and heresy.
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>>133290409
>>133290308
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>>133289728

You just gave the same message of catholicism. Lordship salvation is heresy.

Turning from sin is works. (Jonah 3:10 kjv)
Works do not save [eternally as opposed to physically as in the sure to be fired Jas 2], only faith does (See entire NT, specifically John 3:16, 6:47 Tit 3:5, Eph 2:8-10, Rom 4)
God repents (Jonah 3:10)
Repent = a change of mind.

The only repenting Catholics need to do is repenting (changing their mind) from not believing to believing on Jesus.
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>>133290254
>Saints
You've no understanding of what a saint is, my Judaic friend
>True Presence
John 6:26-71, Matthew 26:17-29 and Matthew 28:20, Mark 14:22-25, Luke 22:14-20, 1 Corinthians 10:14-17, 11:23-34.
>Churh Fathers
That further proves your lack of ANY theological knowledge.
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>>133290290
Literally the pope is called Jesus on earth. Literally.

Popes have even said that they are the way, the truth, and the life.

Jesus did not create your church; Constantine did. And he was a pagan sun god worshiper until the day he died.

Your popes are foul. If you never studied them, they are a string of thieves, liars, murderers, homosexuals, fornicators, orgy enthusiasts, child abusers, etc. Wicked, wicked men.
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The current pope isn't a true catholic.
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Why don't prots celebrate Mass?
I legitimately want to know.
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>>133290368
Keep staying distinct from the Spirit of God, and keep satisfying your flesh.

See how that works out for ya.
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>>133290290
being the replacement indicate that he can replace him, the problem start right there, its inconsistent with the bible.

Trust me, Jesus did not create the roman church. If he did the bible would have mentioned it in other ways than warnings and the church would not have subtly edited the bible in such a way that its message is drastically changed and moved away from the old message, it would not move the resting day to Sunday as a display of its power etc

the pope as a concept go against the bible and what Jesus taught


I mean, priests are mentioned often, but we never hear about a pope, that is not odd to you?
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>>133290478
Ironic, given your Judaic heresy is far more legalistic.
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>>133290445
It's the pope speaking with the forked tongue of the serpent, and his listeners already in the belly of the beast.
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>>133290498
Yup. Catholic through and through.
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>>133290724
What do you mean?
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>>133285784

I'm a Protestant and I agree with you. Catholicism was the accepted order of centuries, then once Protestantism was enforced the degeneracy began to spiral out of control.

Thats not to say that Catholicism doesn't have its own weaknesses and problems. Like how so many homosexuals were tolerated in the clergy is astounding. However Protestants still trump Catholics. You get a lot of bible belt rednecks in the US that think their interpretation is untouchable but its not. Just come and see how the European wings of your denominations are doing.

We regularly have interfaith (basically allow Islamic scholars preach) services, passages from the Qur'an read out during service, we have married homosexual and female ministers, we have gay pride days, transgender celebration days, the list goes on. In fact with exception of tiny rural congregations, almost every large Church I have been to has all of these aspects. Our religion has become a social club for virtue signalers.

Catholics on the other hand are given shit for being against homosexuals, gay marriage, aside from their pope they are against Islam in Europe, they've condemned transgenderism, they are against destroying the family through divorce, they are against contraception which is what has white populations diminishing, they are against the murder of the unborn.

All of these things Catholics are against and Protestant denominations at least tolerate, if not full on embrace. I can't help the religion i was born into and the social class I was born into won't allow me convert to Catholicism but nobody can dispute anything I have said.

Protestantism has led to weakness and degeneracy, Catholicism while also weak still promotes the values that gave us a strong society.

>inb4 you're just a potato nigger Catholic LARPing.
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>>133290626
>Lordship salvation is heresy.

>Being saved by the Lord is heresy.

Well, to the Catholics, perhaps.
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>>133290642
literally he is not literally
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The white race has become a mutated pile of garbage and needs to be flushed.

98% of newborn white babies look subtly mutated and ugly.

It's no wonder The West is such a overflowing toilet of cess, degeneracy, violence & corruption.

I mean, look it at. The Vatican is legitimately a Satanic cult pretending to be "Catholic". Right out in the open. No wonder as the Italians are amongst the shittiest race in Europe; being that they are all Jews.

Freemasonry is 100% a Satanic cult.

It's amazing to think of how many dumbshit creationist Christians have bought the horseshit perception of reality the Demon Masons have sold these morons.

They have a bullshit story to fit every dumbshit on the planet.

The British Royals and their chums are all known to be pedophile child-murderers!

They unearth literal child-bodies inside iron maiden torture chambers and these fucking retards still get away with it!

And look at the US!

The FBI and CIA are nothing but Freemason gatekeepers for the highest effing criminals on the planet!

The F-B-I is INVOLVED in CHILD TRAFFICKING, RAPE AND SNUFF!

The entire Western Civilization pyramid is capstoned by this demented Satanic Cult of total white trash subhumans.

I can't fucking believe this world is real.

Then again, I look around at the people in the supermarket. Endlessly browse random facebook profiles. And I see that 98% of humanity is totally demented, unconscious retards with shitty genetics.

So it's no god damn wonder these demented shit-for-brains retards are so quick to join the biggest cult on the planet.

And it's clear now that The West is totally compromised.

Every country within it is totally Satanic. All run by Freemason retard subhuman criminals. A total fucking criminal child-murdering paradise.

I see right through these fuckheads demented perception of what "enlightenment" means.

I see the chemical-biology of their brains which dictate how they act.

And they clearly all just need to fucking die.
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>>133289650
Protestants do perform mass, only they don't believe in transubstantiation.
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>>133290640
The authors of the bible wrote to the saints.

If you read the bible, like, ever, you would see they constantly call each other the saints.

You people? You wait until someone is dead, demonic counterfeit apparition here, demonic counterfeit miracle there, donation here, they're now a saint.

Problem is that 95% of the catholic saints are in hell.
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>>133291081
Please provide a source.
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>>133290290
>Right now we have an anti-pope in Francis.
Who's the real Pope then?
>>133290642
>Literally the pope is called Jesus on earth. Literally.
Can you "literally" give a source for your claims you dumb burger?
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>>133290931
fuck that picture salts my jim jams worse than I thought it would
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>>133290796
I have zero legalism, have posted zero legalism, and you remain as lost as ever, sans compass.

You know we have IDs, right?
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>>133291162
Some have argued Benedict is the legitimate Pope, that's probably what he means.
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>>133290818
Another interesting interpretation - this would put Christ and his salvation (literally in the art: the saved) outside of Catholicism.

Might be a more consistent interpretation, since it still concede's Christ's authority, and would rather be gloating over the scraps in the belly of the beast.
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>>133291052
it makes sense if you read the bible, stay faithful to the truth
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>>133290929
I meant what I said, and say what I mean.

Mocking Christians for worshiping in the spirit, and adoring Catholics for having sedate castles to worship their pagan gods in will keep a man distinct from the Spirit, and embroiled in the flesh.

Which will not go well for a man.
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>>133291269
Why can't you answer why you don't celebrate Mass? Why are you dodging the question like a faithless coward?
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>>133279447
it looks like orochimarus snake from naruto
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>>133290931
>I'm a Protestant

Said no Christian ever.

>Goes on to praise Catholicism.

Done by no Christian ever.
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Here is my dilemma with the Christian faith.

I believe in God, and have a good relationship with that entity. I don't believe in sin because that's silly, man has good reason and can create fine laws for himself. I believe that degenerate acts that drain the spirit and should be avoided on that reason. But the concept of right and wrong should be extrapolated from nature by example not ordained by man.

If that means I'm going to spend eternity in hell fire, well maybe your omnipotent entity shouldn't have made me into a clever lazy asshole. Not playing the blame game but the outcome should be obvious for a supreme intelligent rivaled by none.
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>>133291250

I know. Everyone I've shown it to so far has give a similar response

>"So this is what being triggered feels like"

Everyone said the gays just wanted the same rights as everyone else and they would leave everyone alone once they got it. Two years later and they are still on the attack.
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>>133291386
Christ is entirely on the outside of catholic belief.

if you seek the truth you will be dragged away from the catholic church
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>>133291432
Okay, so what should I do then?
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>>133290986
What do you think "Vicar of Christ" means? I'll pull cites where the catechism says that God is in heaven, and the pope is God's representative on earth if you need them.
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This thread proves religion was a bad idea.
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>>133291162
Vicar. Vicar of Christ.

It's like you people don't know what the words you say mean.......
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>>133285784
I'm not christian, I'm technically a pagan, but out of all different kinds of christianity I respect Orthodoxy the most.
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>>133291535
More accurately
>One cannot becoming steeped in knowledge and history and remain Protestant
Knowledge is anathema to their kikery.
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>>133291464
We take communion to remember what Jesus did for us on the worst day in history.

You people take communion in an unworthy and pagan manner that predates your church. You are literally eating and drinking damnation to yourself.
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>>133291575
Read the bible, preferably king james translation before 1997, you want the one before the edits that change things up. if you do that and seek the truth the rest will come on its own.
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>>133291518
If you don't have the Son, you don't have the Father, and therefore you do not have a good relationship with the living God.

You have a good relationship with the God that you imagine exists.
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>>133291298
Then he is an illiterate LARPer, because Benedict resigned. Francis is the legitimate Pope, like it or not. The Borgias were legitimate Popes too, and they were plenty worse.
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>>133291512
If I said I am Church of Ireland some inbred burger like you would start screeching like its not a legitimate form of Protestantism, even though its practically the same as CoE. So I just cut to the chase.

Also

>People are so shocked when they find... out I am Protestant. I am Presbyterian. And I go to church, and I love God, and I love my church.

-Donald J Trump
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>>133291821
Still can't answer the question.
Why are you guys being so shifty? Do you not value honesty?

I'll ask again, for the third time.
Why don't prots celebrate Mass?
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>>133291684
Nice try, kike.
>In Roman Catholic canon law, a vicar is the representative of any ecclesiastical authority
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicar
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>>133291575
You should confess out loud that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead.

You should be saved, and that's how you're saved.

You should begin to have a collaborative relationship with the living God. One He desires and created you for.

You should change your mind about not being a sinner in need of a savior, and realize that you're a sinner in need of a savior. And then you should throw yourself at the feet of Jesus Christ and beg Him for mercy and grace, which He gives out in abundance.

Once you're saved you should learn to listen to the Holy Spirit and learn to be guided by Him to wherever He wants you to go.
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>>133291905
Good enough for me I guess.
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>>133291684
Vicar of Christ =! Jesus on Earth

Try again.
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>>133291857
King James was a notorious faggot. No thanks.

>Somerset blackmailed the King, threatening to reveal that they had slept together. At the trial, while testifying before the Lords in Westminster Hall, two men were posted beside him by order of the King, prepared to muffle him with cloaks should he begin to divulge delicate matters.[citation needed] They were not needed, and though he refused to admit any guilt, his wife confessed, and both were sentenced to death. The King commuted the sentence. Nevertheless, they were imprisoned in the Tower for seven years, after which they were pardoned and allowed to retire to a country estate.

What other Bibles do you recommend?
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>>133291963
Blame your papist kin. They are the ones that would screech
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>>133291963
I only care to show people that they need Jesus, not a church.

I don't care what church it is, no church will save you.

Only Jesus saves. Only the Holy Spirit resurrects to eternal life. And all He requires is consent.
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Papacy was infiltrated in 1958 ever since then it's been a jewish sham.
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>>133292111
So basically I should start my own religion based on what my internal monologue tells me?
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>>133292111
Now what bit of this doesn't involve theoretically some imagination.
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>>133291990
I answered it directly.

"Mass" is a Catholic abomination; no Christian takes "mass". The "Eucharist" is a pagan bunch of bullshit that pagans have been doing for thousands of years.

Like many of the beliefs and rites of Romanism, transubstantiation was first practiced by pagan religions. The noted historian Durant said that belief in transubstantiation as practiced by the priests of the Roman Catholic system is "one of the oldest ceremonies of primitive religion." The Story Of Civilization, p. 741. The syncretism and mysticism of the Middle East were great factors in influencing the West, particularly Italy. Roman Society From Nero To Marcus Aurelius, Dill. In Egypt priests would consecrate mest cakes which were supposed to be come the flesh of Osiris. Encyclopedia Of Religions, Vol. 2, p. 76. The idea of transubstantiation was also characteristic of the religion of Mithra whose sacraments of cakes and Haoma drink closely parallel the Catholic Eucharistic rite. Ibid. The idea of eating the flesh of deity was most popular among the people of Mexico and Central America long before they ever heard of Christ; and when Spanish missionaries first landed in those countries "their surprise was heightened, when they witnessed a religious rite which reminded them of communion...an image made of flour...and after consecration by priests, was distributed among the people who ate it...declaring it was the flesh of deity..." Prescott's Mexico, Vol. 3.
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>>133292199
Any modern translations that are directly translated with the same mindset as the king james bible, and that is that the translation should be as true to the original as possible.

The problem is that many modern bibles claim to do this but in reality they don't.
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>>133277919
I don't believe in Jesus Christ anymore but I identitfy as Christian just to save it.
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>>133292408
So you think it's okay to treat works commissioned by a known faggot to be the Word of God?
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>>133291905
>>133292111


I want to outline these two post as evidence of supreme irony.
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>>133291917
>Francis is the legitimate Pope, like it or not.

a jesuit black pope, eschewed in via blackmail, not making a great case for your religious authority.
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>>133291160
I've been in several different denominations of churches in my life, Lutheran, Baptist, Orthodox, ones that don't have a label. They all have performed mass and every one of them made it 100% clear that is was done the same way Jesus taught his disciples which was in remembrance to his sacrifice on the cross. Not one of them had ever mentioned that by taking in the unleavened bread and wine (or juice) it is LITERALLY turning into the flesh and blood of Christ in your body making you Christ-like, which is blasphemy.
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>>133292071

VICAR OF CHRIST

Pope Pius X, said this:
The Pope represents Jesus Christ Himself...

In 1512 Christopher Marcellus said this to Pope Julius II:
Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, for thou art our shepherd, thou art our physician, thou art our governor, thou art our husbandman, thou art finally another God on earth

Pope Leo XIII said these things about the role of the Papacy and the Roman Church:
Our thoughts went out towards the immense multitude of those who are strangers to the gladness that filled all Catholic hearts: some because they lie in absolute ignorance of the Gospel; others because they dissent from the Catholic belief, though they bear the name of Christians.

This thought has been, and is, a source of deep concern to Us; for it is impossible to think of such a large portion of mankind deviating, as it were, from the right path, as they move away from Us, and not experience a sentiment of innermost grief. But since We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty...


But the supreme teacher in the Church is the Roman Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore, requires, together with a perfect accord in the one faith, complete submission and obedience of will to the Church and to the Roman Pontiff, as to God Himself.
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What I really want to know is why Catholics worship that lying cheating whore they call Mary? Virgin my ass....
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>>133273420
both the guys' dress and the background made me think of Mortal Kombat.
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>>133292157
Not after you die, no. It won't be. Meet the real God.

What do you have to lose?
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there is something wrong with protestants if they side with islam

take in mind not all the protestants where submitting and helping the ottomans
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>>133292179
>>133292709
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>>133292408
>same mindset as the King Jew Version
>To be as accurate as possible
That is by far the stupidest thing in this thread.
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>>133292387
I thought he guys were like the Early Christians.

>The earliest surviving account of the celebration of the Eucharist or the Mass in Rome is that of Saint Justin Martyr (died c. 165), in chapter 67 of his First Apology

>165 AD
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>>133292199
King James had no part in the process personally, so it really doesn't matter what sins he had hampering his life, now, does it.
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>>133292786
What do YOU have to lose? Since you're the one already got your chair set-up reserved and waiting for you.
I have my life to lose that cherished gift from God so that I might do his divine work on earth. I'm here for amusement, and I'll laugh my way to the grave believing that.
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>>133292300
You should read, say and do everything in Romans 10:9-13. Your "internal monologue" needs to be a dialog.
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>>133292721
>virgin birth
>had a boyfriend

Ex-Catholic here. What do Protestants believe about Mary?
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>>133292691
Give a source.
Spewing bullshit and passing wafers around is not Mass.
Why don't you know what a Mass is?
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>>133292303
Imagination leads you to what is not real.

Faith leads you to what is real, but that you cannot see.
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>>133292111
Now let's say theoretically I've done this and received His Will. And let's say theoretically His Will leads me to arrest congress for their sins and pledge my fealty to the Republic on the President's doorstep after jumping the WH fence, in no particular order.

What guidance would you offer in this theoretical situation?
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>>133292875
So you say but the fact remains that my bibles translated based on those principles are the ones that are closest to the original translations and several people who wanted to point out edits in the bible have been positively surprised at not finding them in mine.
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>>133278133
Both should be exterminated so I don't really see your point.
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>>133292691
Clearly you weren't pay attention then, the Orthodox believe in the True Presence.
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>>133292231

>Your papist kin

Yeah the ones that burnt us out of our homes, stole everything we owned and killed our children when their Papist state came into fruition.

Don't call them my kin. I have no love for them but I am mature enough to know that we have gotten things wrong. How many different Protestant denominations are there? I know I don't know them all. We are weak, we are divided and it has been getting worse as time goes on.

This hatred and venom that is spewed for Catholics is just another diversionary trick so (((they))) can do what they do best. While we argue and fight, they pilfer and profit.

I am tired of it, and I am man enough and honest enough with God to know that they have gotten some things right while we have been led astray. Divorce, abortion, homosex, trannies, Islam, liberal values...we have embraced all these and its led to our downfall.

>>133292258

Even though your word are true, having a church is the focal point for the weak human mind. We do need one but we shouldn't rely solely on it.
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>>133293000
Dialogue with the voice inside my head?
No thanks, I'm not insane.
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>>133292575
You should look up what irony means.
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>>133293076
That's because the God of this earth has blinded the people. Let me remind you, THE GOD OF THIS WORLD. You don't belong here you're here for punishment like the rest of us. 2 Corinthians 4:4.
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>>133292905
Egypt precedes the false conversion of Constantine by thousands of years, and they too were "Eat God, Be God" people.

roman catholicism is just whitewashed Babylonian paganism.
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>>133293127
I missed that. LOL
He literal said the Orthodox don't believe in the True Presence, nor celebrate Mass (Divine Liturgy).

These guys are either 13 year olds or just plain liars.
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>>133293164
The irony is that here you are in Satans domain, trying your hardest to break free of your eternal damnation on this rock. Your body will break down and be reborn here over and over. Your soul is here for punishment there is no escape.
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>>133292987
And when things cease to amuse you? What will your life's pursuit be then?
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What protestants always tell me is to "check the Scriptures", based on the call from the Act of the Apostles:

Act 17:9-11 kjv " And when they had taken security of Jason , and of the other , they let them go . And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea : who coming went into the synagogue of the Jews . These were more noble than those in Thessalonica , in that they received the word with all readiness of mind , and searched the scriptures daily , whether those things were so ."

But even the most die-hard KJV-only American evangelicals can't deny that the mission and school of St. Paul is no older than 80s and 90s of the 1st century.

Knowing BOTH that the Temple and all its treasures were either destroyed, lost or hidden after the fall of Jewish uprising in 70 AD AND that the passages on the matter regard Hellenic Jews, who couldn't (due to the mentioned) have any access to any "original" (hebraic) texts at the time, AND knowing that the version of the Bible videly used by the said Hellenic Jews was Septuaginta, we easily come to a conclusion that the people of Berea were searching Septuaginta to verify Apostles' gospel.

Which ancient Bible codes contain whole Septuaginta without missing a single book? Catholic and Eastern codes. Which 16th and 17th century Bible canons contain Masoretics texts reconstructed from the quotes in Talmud and chosen passages of Septuaginta between 7th to 10th century AFTER Christ? Protestant canons.

See, protestants can't follow the example from Act 17:11 simply because they don't have a valid Bible to begin with. Therefore, they can't stick to their most primal principle of Sola Scriptura.
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>>133292721
read battle of lepanto hahha ottomans and their protestant helpers got fucked
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>>133293417
creating amusements for others so that they might enjoy their suffering time.
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>>133293330
What does this have to do with the fact that early Christians celebrate Mass and modern prots preach from a STAGE?
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>>133293102
I would suggest that you have no idea Who you would be receiving, nor what that person would nudge you to do.

All authority comes from God, so any rebellion against authority is a rebellion against God. And God will never urge anyone to rebel against God, as He knows the punishment for such foolishness.
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>>133293145
>>133288417

get in here too
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>>133292258
>And all He requires is consent
I call date rape on Jesus. One of his buddies gave me a bunch of wine, filled me with bread and dunked me in a river when I was all woozy and next thing I know, BAM I'm fucking Christian.
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>>133286246
>a fucking leaf
>>133286991
the gnostics were heretics
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>>133293357
More likely their the same as shitlibs, they hold opinions having done no research and refuse to change their mind even when confronted with obvious and easily verifiable truth.
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>>133290931
well shit. This triggered me
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>>133293153
If you are currently having dialogues with the voice inside your head, you may not understand the difference between dialogue and monologue.

If you're afraid of hearing voices in your head, I would point out that we all hear voices in our heads.

If you're afraid of God speaking to you, push through it and hear His voice. It's an unmistakable still, quiet voice.
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>>133293477
it is so dumb when people call non catholics protestant,I don't think protestant as a defined term people call themselves exist outside northern Ireland. we simply read the bible and follow the religion as we are supposed to
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>>133292909
What motivated him to commission a new Bible then?
His holiness?
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>>133293241
While the devil is the god of this world, that does not make the devil God. Just the god this world chose at the Fall of Man.
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>>133293759
Dude, God does not talk to you inside your head, that's your internal monologue. You literally worship yourself.
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>>133293366
Maybe look up an online dictionary for a definition of "irony".

And then, the definition of "projection".
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>>133293570
Ostensibly, those who violate the Constitution violate our flag's Authority, under God and all that.
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>>133293593

Fair play. Didn't even know it was up and running.
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>>133293477

Shitposting schizo muslim is shitposting schizo muslim.
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>>133293145
fellow irish man get in here if you have the time
>>133279472
>>133279472
>>133279472
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>>133293644
They're worse than shitlibs. Shitlibs don't claim to have God in their head telling them to do. Their condescension comes from somewhere else.
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>>133293488
And when that fails?

Honestly, if your goal is to amuse people, you are wonderful at compartmentalizing your life.
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>>133293873
You're absolutely correct, but look around you look at nature. All living creatures must kill and feed upon another to survive. And you believe your benign all loving creator put you here for goodness?

That is my amusement, maybe that's why I've never been into Christianity your suffering is the greatest most pleasurable of all to witness. Your struggle your confusion your commitment to things that have abandoned you and only speak to your in order to laugh at your suffering. That is what amuses me.
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>>133293821
No, the conflict between the people who were bickering over their different versions of the time, think there were like 2 or 3.

The principle of the translation is what is important as many bibles since then are called king james bibles for following the same principle
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>>133293821
Probably the growing popularity of the Geneva bible and an ego fit for a king.
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>>133273420
Prots can't even rival the weirdest, deepest Catholic. Cringe-worthy prayers circles versus something that looks like a Satanic Lion King.
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>>133293939
God speaks to me in many ways, mostly through the written bible.

I worship my Creator, not myself. I see people like you worshiping yourself and I wonder, "why".
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>>133293961
"Vengeance is mine, I will repay" saith the Lord of Hosts.
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>>133294027
So you doubt that the basic Hellenic canon of the Bible from 2nd century BC was Septuaginta? Or that the Masoretic Scriptures were created between 7th to 10th century AD?
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>>133292199
>"Such a man was sure to have enemies. One such man, Anthony Weldon, had to be excluded from the court. Weldon swore vengeance. It was not until 1650, twenty-five years after the death of James that Weldon saw his chance. He wrote a paper calling James a homosexual. Obviously, James, being dead, was in no condition to defend himself."

King James was not gay. It's a narrative pushed by a jesuit to invalidate the most accurate english translation of the bible, after you btfo'd the church by allowing all people to read it, not just the priest.
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>>133294156
How sad for you, to revel in the false abandonment of others.

Do I really need to ask when the last time you saw your Dad was?
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>>133294182
I asked what motivated the faggot King James to commission a new Bible.

Theoretically you wouldn't have a problem if Dan Savage commissioned a new Bible then?
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>>133290025
Fuck off back to your megachurch (tm), pastor jim
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>>133282166
>>Pope agreed to the Reichskonkordat with Hitler

Yes, in order to protect the rights of Catholics in Germany.

When Hitler failed to hold up his end of the bargain, the same Pope issued the bitter encyclical condemning Nazism, Mit Brennender Sorge (With Burning Sorrow) (1937):

http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge.html

>We tried to sow the seed of a sincere peace, [but] other men - the "enemy" of Holy Scripture - oversowed the cockle of distrust, unrest, hatred, defamation, of a determined hostility overt or veiled, fed from many sources and wielding many tools, against Christ and His Church. They, and they alone with their accomplices, silent or vociferous, are today responsible, should the storm of religious war, instead of the rainbow of peace, blacken the German skies.

It might also be noted that Hitler never received a majority of the votes in the Catholic states.
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>>133294387
The Lord moves through all things and His Will made manifest.

In hoc signo vinces
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>>133294103
I'll ride this train till it stops I have no bitterness or confusion at the world it all makes sense to me. Irrational creatures believing in irrational things because they were not designed for truth.


>>133294524
at the 4th of july, we had a great family celebration and I spent 179$ on a very expensive finale firework.
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>>133294302
And rubbing the toe bones and finger bones of "saints" for more powerful prayers.
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>>133292199
>>133294501
>"The report was largely ignored since there were still enough people alive who knew it wasn't true. In fact, it lay dormant for years, until recently when it was picked up by Christians who hoped that vilifying King James, would tarnish the Bible that bears his name so that Christians would turn away from God's book to a more "modern" translation."

>"It might also be mentioned here that the Roman Catholic Church was so desperate to keep the true Bible out of the hands of the English people that it attempted to kill King James and all of Parliament in 1605."
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>>133294326
God talks to you through the Bible?? You mean you don't read it and interpret things based on your personal preferences?
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>>133294655
The Douay Rheims Bible predates the faggot's KJV. Clearly your proud ignorance is a stumbling block
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>>133293014
That she was engaged to Joseph, visited by Gabriel, consented to bear the messiah, God's Son, did so, and consummated her marriage to Joseph after Jesus was born.

You know, like the bible says.
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>>133292199
>>133294501
>>133294655
>"In 1605 a Roman Catholic by the name of Guy Fawkes, under the direction of a Jesuit priest by the name of Henry Garnet, was found in the basement of Parliament with thirty-six barrels of gunpowder which he was to use to blow up King James and the entire Parliament. After killing the king, they planned on imprisoning his children, re-establishing England as a state loyal to the Pope and kill all who resisted. Needless to say, the perfect English Bible would have been one of the plot's victims. Fawkes and Garnet and eight other conspirators were caught and hanged.
It seems that those who work so hard to discredit the character of King James join an unholy lot."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-EKC0JvjcI

Just another desperate attempt to smear the name of a great man who translated the most important book in history. Stay mad.
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>>133294501
More prots lies.

>17th century commentators, such as poet Théophile de Viau wrote plainly about the king's relationship. In his poem, Au marquis du Boukinquan, de Viau writes: "Apollo with his songs / debauched young Hyacinthus, ... And it is well known that the king of England / fucks the Duke of Buckingham."[
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>>133294562
Not if the principles were good.

The reason for its popularity is that people find it to be a good translation.
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>>133294573
I like them about as much as you do, on average.

And of course the Roman Catholic Church is THE megachurch.
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>>133294898
Was Mary's birth of Jesus a virgin birth?
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>>133294501
>the most accurate english translation of the bible
The most accurate translation of the Masoretic Scriptures (7th to 10th century AD) and Textus Receptus (post 380 AD). In comparison, there are over 19 THOUSAND differences between the Great Codes (Sinai, Vatican, Alexandrian, Efraim) and KJV. It's up to you to wonder which of these two categories are closer to the original teaching of the Church - the one from before 315/325 to 380 AD or the one from before 1570 to 1611 AD.
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>>133294606
Do no evil that good may come.

--Jesus of Nazareth
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>>133294909
Based.
That's how to deal with faggot subverters and their prot enablers.
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>>133294951
cute poem but its a bit sad that you have to resort to this when the other side present you with real historical arguments
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>>133293014
That she was just a regular women who had a kind heart enough for God to choose her as the mother of Jesus. Also, because her blood has ancestral ties with Abraham and the other old testament people. The praising she gets from the catholic church is not only undeserved, but unbiblical and wicked.
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>>133294993
That's disgusting.
You just admitted you'd consider a Dan Savage commissioned Bible as the Word of God.

Have you sick fucks no boundaries?
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>>133295146
I come good from anal. Is that evil Jesus?
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>>133295047
Yes, of course, as Isaiah prophesied. Young Hebrew engaged girl = virgin.

We believe about Mary what the bible says about Mary.

Not what the Mary worshipers say about Mary, and not what the demonic Marian apparitions say about Mary.
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>>133295146
recite a couple feel good poetry words, from old times.
You people are funnier than liberals. Not in a bad way I wouldn't change you for anything. Beautifully amusing creatures.
Yay Christianity I'm saved!
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>>133295138
the one that matches the old texts found around the world the best, and that means we have to completely discard anything catholic at least
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>>133295269
>17 century commentaries aren't historical

lol
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