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Realistically, how close are we to an event that brings about the collapse of western civilization.
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>>133273218
>Implying western civilization isn't already in the process of collapsing
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Look at america and europe and tell me it hasn't already started.
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>>133273418
>grouping us in with you

stop doing this. We don't share your "tread on me" ideology.
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>>133273355
this. the jew has too much power. we need another shoah to keep them in check.
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>>133273218
Scientifically speaking, closer than we ever was.
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>>133273355
>>133273418
I know it's already happening but when is it going to be at the point where people have to start scavenging for food and forming militias
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Pretty close, 2008 only postponed the unsustainable global neo-liberal circlejerk from collapsing. Now we have an even larger social element, in the West give it a decade and we'll have a large portion of Boomers demanding gibs from populations which are getting more upset.

tl;dr Soon™
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>>133273218
*huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff*
*huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff**huff*
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>>133273507
You are delusional if you think you country hasn't been in a state of decay for decades already. You are just as fucked as we are, if not more.
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>>133273218
2 more months.
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>>133274177
>You are just as fucked as we are, if not more.

No see the ethnic and cultural makeup of our nation is not being majorly upheaved in a single generation.

>muh mexicans

mexicans act like americans they go work hard come home and drink beer. people invade your countries, cut off clits and fuck goats and then shit on the train. not an issue here and won't become one because we will fucking burn their mosques down.
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>>133273218
Probably the next economical recession crisis, the niggers in africa will be cut from gibs so they implode
which fuels refugee crisis even more
countries cant handle all the refugee leeching anymore due to economical problems
start deporting niggers
noone wants niggers anymore
purge niggers
leftists rise up
purge leftists
people rise up for government becoming too irrational
chip people with explosive chips
rule gojim
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>>133273218
Fag listen, people have been saying this since at least the 1920s.

Probably before that.
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13 years give or take. by 2030 the first world will look radically different. train stations and airports are targets of 'terrorism' in order to justify militarising them. there will be a great exodus around 2025, this is in anticipation of that.

if you're in the us, become self sufficient and make sure you live in a rural low pop density area. have guns and ammo.

if you're in the eu you want to gtfo around 2022. south america will be a good refuge (chile and argentina mainly).
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>>133274226
see you in september
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>>133275228
fuck off we're full
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>>133274825
US, idk (depends on what people actually think of spics)
Europe, explosion imminent
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Race war by Christmas
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>>133274226
This can't happen soon enough.
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>>133273218
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>>133274226
That pic was posted for 2016 too.
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>>133273218
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-30/swiss-army-chief-warns-social-unrest-calls-upon-citizens-arm-themselves
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>>133276002
No it wasn't
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>>133276002
Thats a nigger-tier meme.
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>>133273218
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/763004/Europe-civil-war-European-Union-David-Engels-authoritarian-30-years-migrant-crisis
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>>133273355

This. IMO it's already too late, we will do absolutely nothing to stop the african invasion of Europe and it is all over. They just keep multiplying like animals without any means to support the population and they will ALL inevitably go for Europe.

Literally, if we don't start moving for a complete stop of migration from Africa today, we are all done for.
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>>133273218

Western civilization has already collapsed

Were somewhere in the middle of the early part of the collapse
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>>133273218
https://www.10news.one/sweden-on-the-brink-of-civil-war-national-police-chief-help-us-help-us/
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>>133273218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQOCcx5V9RI
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>>133276002
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>>133273218
4.6/10
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>>133276425
Bunc hof cuck traitors fuck all cops fuck all niggers fuck the kikes. WAR TO CLEANSE THIS GAY EARTH
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>>133273668
Will depend on the location in the south of the Us gated communities and neighborhoods watch groups are already a thing, in Latin America this is the norm and it's already starting in Europe. You can't fix a signal date were all food stops being delivered to the Supermarkt and open warfare is in the streets. In my opinion it will be slow, overall living standards will become worse, security concerns will lead to militias/similar stuff (privat security companies with militarily elements) will be fromed localy were they are needed. In a sense it's already there and depends were you are on how quickly it will all go to shit.
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>>133273218
I think it all depends on whos able to make the last move. Will the leftists cause a mass murder of thousands causing the right to murder the entire left? Or will it be the other way around? Impossible to say. But at this rate, the right hasn't really caused much damage or casualties to the left unless provoked
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>>133274177
It is but we have more bulwarks in place to protect against it. You're getting hit too hard too fast and your laws, institutions, customs, public sentiment, whatever you want to measure as a whole aren't keeping up with reality.
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There won't be a "collapse", just a really slow and boring decline over the next 50 years. When you're 60, you'll be rounded up for being white and killed by a bunch of minorities.
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>>133273218
if you mean close in time then I'd say it's not too close, maybe 3/10
if you mean how close it is to being inevitable then it's a solid 10/10
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>>133277139
>Will the leftists cause a mass murder of thousands causing the right to murder the entire left?
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>>133273218
Not close enough.
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>>133273507
There are people encouraging the mentally ill to cut their cock and balls off and act like women.
We're all fucked.
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>>133277760

Yes
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>>133273218

soon

>>133271201
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>>133273661
This. it would take the pressing of a few buttons to end it all.
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>>133273218
>2030s
>Europe is overrun with niggers, whites live in gated communities
>Daily terror attacks in every city
>Entire continent, especially urban areas, looks like the fucking West Bank with concrete walls, pillboxes and armed guards everywhere
>Welfare state is on its last legs
>Hyperinflation begins to set in
>weimar.bmp
>Euro police and military too badly organized and demoralized to keep law and order
>governments become just one authority among many
>little 'caliphates' spring up and African warlords rule large areas
>European rightist organizations like Gen. Identity are the only bodies dedicated to providing protection and leadership for white people
>Brainwashed white libshits face a choice between fending for themselves among a horde of subhumans who will rape their daughters, enslave their sons and kill them
>Or joining a right wing enclave and having a chance at survival
>no_contest.wav
>Continental whites make an ideological 180 so fast it'll make your head spin
>Let the fucking final solution commence
>Kikes are next
>/pol/ rules Evropa
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>>133273218
>Realistically, how close are we to an event that brings about the collapse of western civilization.
>implying it wasn't WWI
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>>133275813
Tanks in 30 minutes
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>>133278515
You mean fall of rome?
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>>133274825
>Your logic
>People saying the west is ending for a long time prevents the west from ending

Please don't do this.
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>>133278694
That was classical civilization
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>>133274226
you guys have been pushing this september 23 meme for years now, pick a single year and stick with it, I dont wanna see you fags posting this shit again in 2018
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>>133279273
No we have not.
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>>133273218
It will literally never happen.
Collapse doesn't happen like that.
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very far honestly.
It will be a slow and steady decline while the candle of civilsation and progress moves elsewhere.
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>>133276518
I'm hoping china will create genetically engineered hybrid white super men in the future as our race is wiped out by the browns.
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https://youtu.be/w6qYjisp51M?t=514
listen to this part of video about waiting for collapse
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>>133280949
8:20 mark
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>>133279463
http://www.konbini.com/us/entertainment/end-world-set-september-23-2015/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PvO2YKROF8

https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/stars/what-will-happen-september-23-2017/

http://www.inquisitr.com/2305045/asteroid-impact-apocalypse-date-of-destruction-set-at-day-of-atonement-september-23-only-500-days-to-avoid-chaos/

you remember none of this?
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>>133275228
I'm not gonna leave. I don't want to. I don't want to have to fight for this, I'm not really sure it's a good thing to fight for. But if we leave for some where else, another little bit slips away forever.
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>>133273218

Pretty close. If the economy collapses, race hatred will increase quite quickly. Our society is a tinderbox right now.
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>>133273218
It won't collapse.
It will degrade in to something akin to Brazil.
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>>133273218
Its already happening.
Climate Change is starting to become serious.
Pretty soon crop yields will collapse across the majority of the planet, including all of the major breadbaskets (which includes the US)
Our societies are nine meals from mayhem.
I don't even worry about the very long term impacts of climate change, ie methane degassing in Siberia, because global agriculture will almost certainly collapse well before that becomes an issue.

Agricultural collapse is economic collapse. It is war. Pakistan and India are drying up already. They both have nuclear weapons.

The US Military knows about this and has done for some time. There will be wars, failed states, famine. Hopefully it will slow the warming down because if we hit 4 degrees, then it becomes unstoppable. If we hit 6 degrees we can look foward to fire balls crashing into landmasses due to atmospheric methane igniting. Anoxic oceans releasing hydrogen sulfide choking most living things. The phytokplankton will die off taking most of the earths oxygen production away with them. The Amazon will burn away into a fucking dessert.

Get ready because this is going to be the greatest bottleneck since the toba eruption.
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>>133281563
That's probably one of the saddest things I've ever read on here. I mean that unironically and I feel terrible for the plight of your country.
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>>133281563
Whites are welcome in America. We have a little bit of everything here. You can live by the ocean, in the mountains, forests, deserts or massive cities. The more whites who take up property the less will be left for the shit skin.
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>>133274487

America is objectively more fucked than Europe, and this is coming from an American fan who dreams of annexation.

Large swaths of America - both White and non-White areas - are stuck in poverty and quickly becoming straight-up dystopian. I was in Binghampton, New York last month and its downtown is completely empty and destroyed. Literally a city in upstate of New York of about 50,000 people, in a state of total ruin.
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>>133281403
Interesting, guess you paid more attention than I did.
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>>133274487
>39%
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>>133278472
once we clean house, we have to sort out the traitors.

god damn I hate saying this, but it's not israel, the shits are using them as cover, it is the (((jews))) but it aint the jews. jesus did say they pretend to be the jews, he didn'y say it's all the jews.

fuckin jesus, always right.
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right now check 'em
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the Roman civilization didn't collapse in a single generation. things will just get worse and worse
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>>133274487
I don't really mind the Mexicans either. They assimilate very well into our lifestyle.
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>>133273218
It's not going to be an event, it's going to be a slow slide. Things are just going to get worse and worse forever.
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>>133273218
We are nearing the end, but it's impossible to predict when it will actually happen.
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>>133282498
Fuck off fagot, kys
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>>133274825
Western civilization collapsed in 1940 and was briefly replaced by Nazi and Japanese hegemony. The colonial powers were completely blown the fuck out and their empires collapsed, with the largest assets being lost nearly overnight. From 1947 on, all colonial powers were under the protection of the United States of America. A third of the world's powers were communist and another third were non-aligned, but absolutely not friendly towards the West.

Western civilization already collapsed, long before we were born. It was only a matter of time before the other civilizations caught up and held the power needed to put us down for good. So now, with our civilization in tatters and American power being challenged from multiple directions, we are at a cross roads.

Do we just let the night fall and be done with it? Or what?
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>>133274487

>No see the ethnic and cultural makeup of our nation is not being majorly upheaved in a single generation.

Yes it is, more so than Norway's.
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>>133273218
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>>133282785

>Do we just let the night fall and be done with it? Or what?

Literally can't happen until I die, and I haven't been able to.
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>>133275335
SEE YOU WHEN THE SUMMER'S THROUGH
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>>133273218

100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBoBACMKzZQ
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>>133282858
American is very large, with a relatively small population for its size. The ethnic changes are happening more or less in areas of historical ethnic change. Real Americans avoid those places in the first place, unless they are very wealthy and can live in compound style housing with armed guards.
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>>133273218
If Trump gets impeached all of Western civilization is coming down with him.
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>>133279273
>>133281403
Calm down dumbass, it's just roleplaying.
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>>133276002
It's posted every year newfag
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>>133273218
Are you retarded? Did you mid that thing where we told literally Satan to fuck the fuck off?

We will be fine.100%
See,there's this thing we can do when shit has gone on for too long,and we fixed it. Still brings a tear to my eye. Americans will do the right thing.
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>>133274226
>>133274825
>>133276139
>>133276425
>>133276862
>>133276876
>>133277760
>>133278472
>>133279463
>>133281062
>>133281563
Plot my sub contribution history over time. Through the Democratic National Convention this was the sub with my highest activity. After the draconian yell-at-everyone tactics began, stepped out of the room and continued having the same conversations without the obnoxious disruption.
My account represents the historic demographic of politics, when we had authentic conversation taking place here.
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The last time that's economics inequalities were this bad was the year Hitler got elected. The time before was in russia before the communist revolution. I don't know when but things will turn nasty in less than 5 years for me
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>>133273218
Not soon enough
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>>133283328
I will not calm down until I have a new doomsday theory that is not just the same shit from the past few years
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>>133278472
>where did it all go so right?
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>>133282957
i wish this was my country so bad desu
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>>133282785
> Do we just let the night fall and be done with it?
No.
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>>133281840
War, war never changes
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>>133273218
>implying it isn't already collapsing
What we are experiencing is the slow downfall. Remember, it took many years for the Western Roman Empire to fall. You will see the complete collapse in your lifetime, guaranteed. Birth rate is too low and always will be, Women still have too many rights, marriage is a sham, race mixing on the rise, rampant nihilism, traditionalist values forgotten, sexualization of the youth, economy is one slip up away from completely tumbling to the deck like jenga blocks, mass immigration occurring alongside migration, geopolitical tensions between the West and East. Civilizations rise and fall, this is our downfall. Anyone telling you this can be reversed is either deluded, misinformed or outright lying to you.
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>>133282785
>Do we just let the night fall and be done with it?

Yes. There is almost nothing in this degenerate husk of a culture worth rescuing.
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>>133273668
may of 2021
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>>133283728
See you in September.
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>>133283853
Post the one with Bane, the gif.
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>>133284081
That's your opinion pal. Despite the faggots and SJW agitators, I think we've got a good thing going here and I want to protect it.
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>>133283728
The new doomsday theory: The Democrats are destroyed,PC culture is destroyed, people have jobs,gas is cheap, fake news is dessimated, Illegal Browns are gone,the deficit is shrinking,treason is punished, ect.

We rolling now boys. The darkness is fading. The sun will shine on us again.

Soon.
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>>133283942
>rampant nihilism
This desu, there has never been an age which has suffered from so extreme an absence of all higher ideals. What Rand called the 'cultural value-deprivation'. Most of today's youth, especially the thinking ones, can't even imagine what it would be like not to be a fucking nihilist. Nobody cares anymore
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>>133284425
>I think we've got a good thing going here
Lies for the deluded. Civilization ruined us and Barbarism is going to make a nice return once Rome dies.
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>>133283153
sounds like hes trying to sell silver .....
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I'm unironically preparing for things to go Venezuela-tier in Europe. Can anyone really look at countries like Germany, Sweden, UK or Italy and say that it will turn out well? No they can't, because none of this will realistically end well. This isn't a passing problem, it's an ever-growing one, and eventually it will reach a critical point.

My guess is that we have about a decade of "peace" left at most.
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>>133285044
Your continent is fucked. Sorry.

Come to America. We got room.
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>>133283156

I'm just saying, Norway is not Sweden.
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>>133285485

Oh nm, he's a dane.
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>>133273218
>Since the collapse is already on his way, I assume your question is about how close we are to the first "collapse-marker" undisputed among future historians.
Three years, at best.
It is over, let's face it. We've already hit the iceberg, all we can do is crafting lifeboats.
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>>133284557

Indeed he his. You would be foolish not to own some precious metals given the precarious situation with our financial and monetary systems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4
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>>133274825
>people have been saying this since at least the 1920s
The collapse began in 1914. They were absolutely right.
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>>133273218
an event?

i don't think it would be due to a single event.

but i don't think the west is going to collapse - it's just going to be filled with shit skins.

the only situation i forsee that would bring about dramatic change is a depression.

a lot of shit skins would starve to death.
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Democracy is the problem and has always been the problem. The decline is linked intimately with the increase in suffrage and the abandonment of responsibility of our ruling class and their replacement with a commercial businesses elite.
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>>133285833
i aint buying shit jew,
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There should've been a huge deflationary collapse in 2008 but central banks across the world worked together and manufactured a fake recovery based on unprecedentedly low rates of interest and absolutely mind-boggling amounts of currency creation disguised as QE programs. All they did was delay the inevitable however, and they are getting increasingly desperate as their global ponzi scheme shows signs of unraveling once again - see pic related for just how desperate they are.

Expect the next stage of the ongoing financial crisis to hit within 18 months maximum.
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>>133282033
New York is a complete shit hole.

It's funnels all its money to New York City.

I wouldn't consider that leftwing state an example.
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>>133286652
Hyperinflation when, economics-senpai?
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>>133274226
My birthday is gonna be a blast
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>>133273218
One hack, or physically attack on our grid, and you are riding a horse, and reading by candle light.
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>>133276425
About David Engels, if you know his work : Macron probably wants to be the "augustean figure" he evokes. I bet he will fail.
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>>133286808
We will see another onset of deflation in areas such as the stock market and real estate to which central banks will react with panic again and they will rev up the QE programs (that haven't even ended in most cases) big time. This will break the invisible confidence barriers in most major currency markets leading to huge levels of inflation and possibly even hyperinflation. It is almost inevitable at this point and all too predictable when you study just how incompetent (or malevolent in some cases) central bankers are.
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>>133275945
Bet she wishes she bought a hard-top.
Maybe a complete dress too...
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>>133286167
I hope you lose your fucking fingers. People shouldn't be subjected to that spacing.
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>>133287159
So Stocks and Real estate prices will crash due to the dollar rising... then the central bank will say fuck it and print to infinity, at which point we become Weimar Germany and the entire global economy collapses?

At which point they will introduce their new one world currency based on carbon taxes or some shit?

Why are people saying this will happen in September?
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>>133283552
>5years
Optimist, with the multiple bubbles in stocks, commodities, debt, private as public, banks not willing and unable to lend and interest at less then 0 I go with October. First some new tech shares, then gold, short after the European house market, then default on the stimulus credits from after 08 and last crypto. Its over. Buy weapons and train mentally to kill everything which has food and is not as well armed as you.

This is going to be the dirtiest war ever.
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Trump's Impeachment
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>>133288230
>At which point they will introduce their new one world currency based on carbon taxes or some shit?
I'm not really into conspiracy theories, but ...
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>Tfw America gets to LARP in a Mad Max world thanks to our glorious second amendment while Europoors are stuck with a normal boring financial collapse
Must suck to be you guys
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>>133288565
Moron, they want to blame him. Not a smart move to impeach him before. Unless they have accepted him as Caesar. If they speculate on the middle class kidies larping as antifags fighting him, they are not just sloppy, they made a mistake.
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>>133288605
they create the problem, they introduce the solution.. etc etc

buy gold and silver you faggots
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>>133273218
Collapse is a process not an event.
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>>133288230
>So Stocks and Real estate prices will crash due to the dollar rising,,,
I'm not sure what the exact catalyst will be for the crash but there are plenty of factors out there including the very fact that stocks and real estate are massively overvalued right now. I doubt it will be due to dollar strength though, I think the dollar has already put in a top (earlier this year). Nearly all the economic data, aside from employment numbers which are fake anyway, are rolling over signalling that a recession is imminent right now - both in the US and the UK as well as many other developed nations. It could very well be the case that investors suddenly cannot ignore the deterioration of these data very soon which precipitates the collapse in asset prices.

>then the central bank will say fuck it and print to infinity
Yep, unfortunately this will be the policy of the Fed, BoE, ECB etc. and they've made this very clear with their reckless actions since 2007. Also with rates already basically at zero (nominal that is, real rates are actually negative) the only way forward in the twisted minds of these central bankers is to engage in massive QE programs again.

>At which point they will introduce their new one world currency...
The IMF will probably be the actor to step in as the only institution left with a clean balance sheet - they will issue SDRs (special denominated rights) as the new global reserve currency. See interviews from James Rickards for more information into this.

>Why are people saying this will happen in September?
Probably just larping, nobody really knows when this shitshow will begin.
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>>133274226
>2012 again...
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>>133273418
Soon my brother
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>>133289223
>Why are people saying this will happen in September?

When Bernanky from the FRBNY, in a speech spoke about 'confidence', as long as 'confidence is maintained', he was talking about the illusion of money to control. He was talking about the Matrix of Illusion. This is two bit confidence game.
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>>133274226
>>133275335
https://youtu.be/NDKIs0v120s
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>>133289223
>IMF
Not if Russia keeps shitting on their Sharade and Eastern Europe spits in their faces while Iran laughs how they gamed the west and Japan is going back to full protectionism. The IMF is a shitshow, full of incompetent voodoo NEETS who REALLY believe in Keynes. It will go so fucking wrong. I hope D.C Niggers eat their children alive
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>>133289680
Don't get me wrong, I think they'll be just as much of a failure as the rest of these Keynesian morons in central banking and finance these days. But that won't stop the global elite from pushing the IMF as the "only solution to the problems", that's just how they're likely to play it unfortunately and the recent addition of the Chinese Yuan into the SDR basket just provides more evidence that this is their plan.
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>>133285044


>My guess is that we have about a decade of "peace" left at most.

nah maybe 30 years. The biggest worry is when the normies wake up and realise what the leftist social engineering was trying to do the whole time and in response the leftists create a police state. Our greatest enemies will not be migrants but the state and the ideological apparatus - our own institutions have been turned on us and the social contract has been broken a long time ago.
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>>133290500
I know it is their plan. Got drunk with a bunch of them in D.C. The thing is they need the people to follow, but after they fucked up from 07 till this date, especially in Europe, most will probably give a damn about them. In addition to sheep following, they would need an army that is loyal to the cause, not a bunch of mercenaries, but that is all they will get.
Oh and btw, they don't get any good recruits anymore. IMF, UN, World Bank, OSZE and the EU have a youth problem. Damn I got job offers just being their and drinking with them. I have no economic background and not even a finished degree. They are desperate and make on mistake after the other.
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>>133284524

Ayn Rand cared about culture? I thought she was just another Jew who cared about money and advocated free markets because they logically make more money than communism or debt economies?
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>>133281840
All the data is based on temp adjustments over time though. Here's MSM on the matter:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/amp/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html
Many more academic and scientific reports out there as well confirm this.
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>>133289066
> buy gold and silver you faggots
In France we're already registred when buying gold. This will end with a requisition. I don't know if it's the same with silver, must check out.
Nowadays I'm more in buying useful goods. Not really the stereotypical survivalist shit, but a good car, robust clothes and shoes, this kind of stuff. Also no repair can wait, as long as there are repairers.
> they create the problem, they introduce the solution.. etc etc
That's the point where I'm not into conspiracy stuff, at least not in the regular meaning.
My opinion is that the collapse was forseeable, unavoidable and forseen since decades, perhaps since WW1 or the interwar period. Since then, the elites are divided between two tendencies : the short-termists are trying to postpone the collapse beyond their lifetimes, while the long-termists are preparing a collapse that would suits them. I think this hypothesis explains a lot more than the monolithic conspiracy stuff.
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>>133273218
Honestly, current course just missed the iceberg and we seem to be heading back down the right path. Long term the West will never fall because I know what the West is capable of if pushed to far.
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>>133281840
We have crop yields that is literally 600 percent higher than 100 years ago.
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Stock up on cryptocurrency. They're shilling it's future, but it will prevail and will be the new fed. reserve. Ethereum may drop to $60. Invest accordingly.
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>>133273218

We're already in such an event. It has been happening for decades now. It is a "slow motion" collapse.

(Not really slow motion at all once you recognize that "Rome wasn't built in a day, but it didn't collapse in a day either.)
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>>133296192
crypto is going to go bust when the government repeats what roosevelt did in the 1930s with gold.
enjoy having the cia drain your wallet with zero day exploits in your computer hardware.
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I just want to live in peace and die old.
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>>133274226
why is astrology so fucking retarded? how in the fuck do you get a woman out of that? those stars don't even line up properly
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>>133273218
Within our lifetimes for sure.
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>>133285966
Correct, they just didn't think it would be so drawn out.
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